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00:35 | eythian | rangi: know anything about t/Csv.t and t/Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t having the same issue? |
00:35 | because they seem to. | |
00:41 | rangi | ah yep follow up on 929 for the KohaDates one |
00:41 | and i think need one on 5327 for the CSV one | |
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01:11 | Smurk | Help... |
01:11 | I can't restart rebuild-zebra... | |
01:11 | Someone help me. :( | |
01:13 | eythian | Smurk: provide more information |
01:16 | Smurk | Whatever command I enter, the shell says "-sh [command] not found" |
01:17 | I used to do MORE or CAT (I can't remember) just to read a file, and now I can't even do that... | |
01:17 | What's wrong with me? I am really helpless! | |
01:18 | I have followed the advice from someone in the mailing list (clear the zebra indexes). Now I just need to start it again, and I can't. | |
01:18 | eythian | Smurk: can you use 'less' to read a file? |
01:19 | but that error is a bit strange... | |
01:20 | Smurk | yes, it works |
01:23 | What am i supposed to write to restart rebuild zebra ? | |
01:24 | rebuild_zebra or koha-rebuild-zebra or what else ? | |
01:24 | eythian | how have you installed koha? From packages, or from git, or from a tar.gz file? |
01:24 | Smurk | package |
01:25 | (sorry, one hand only now :)) | |
01:25 | I guess I should do that http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]oha-rebuild-zebra | |
01:26 | eythian | then do 'sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f *nameoflibrary* |
01:26 | ' | |
01:26 | yeah | |
01:27 | Smurk | if i dont sudo, it says -sh koha-rebuild... not found |
01:28 | if i sudo, no error on the shell, but zebra doesn't seem to work neither (no search in the catalog) | |
01:31 | eythian | that makes sense actually. |
01:32 | When you say you get no error, do you get anything? | |
01:32 | it should put a lot of information up if you use -v. | |
01:32 | can you paste in the exact command you're using? | |
01:35 | Smurk | how do i know for sure if zebra is running? |
01:35 | the command I am using is: | |
01:36 | sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f | |
01:36 | I don't put any instance name because there aren't any, well I don't think so. | |
01:36 | eythian | well there must be, otherwise there is no koha running. |
01:36 | sudo koha-list will tell you | |
01:37 | Smurk | And no, when there is no error on the shell, there is nothing at all. |
01:37 | If I do sudo koha-list, the only thing I get is: library | |
01:37 | what does that mean? | |
01:37 | eythian | that means you have once instance called 'library' |
01:37 | Smurk | Ok... |
01:38 | (see, I told you I am helpless | |
01:38 | ) | |
01:38 | eythian | :) |
01:38 | Smurk | So I will try again with library. |
01:38 | eythian | at some stage you would have done koha-create library |
01:38 | yep | |
01:38 | Smurk | Ok.... |
01:38 | Plenty of things happening! | |
01:38 | eythian | that's a good sign |
01:39 | Smurk | The thing is I haven't set up the whole thing, I just took over after. I don't know all these server things. |
01:39 | eythian | ah right |
01:39 | Smurk | When it says "error retrieving biblio no" or "error exporting...", should I care about it? |
01:41 | eythian | can you provide more context? like paste the whole line in (use paste.koha-community.org if it's big) |
01:42 | Smurk | Oops... |
01:42 | I tried to copy-paste and it stopped everything. | |
01:43 | 20601..........................Error exporting record 22583 (biblio) XML at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 359. | |
01:43 | (for instance) | |
01:44 | Could it be that I have stopped rebuild-zebra? Maybe I should do it again? It doesn't do anything else now... | |
01:45 | OK, I have started it again... | |
01:48 | eythian | well, what happens after that? |
01:48 | that's the important part to know if it's stopped (I'd suspect yes though) | |
01:48 | try it with the '-u' option maybe | |
01:50 | Smurk | it's in process now |
01:50 | what -u would do? | |
01:51 | eythian | it uses a different way of exporting the records. |
01:51 | Has different failure modes to the XML method. | |
01:52 | although it's probably you have something fishy with biblio record 22583 that you should look at. | |
01:52 | *probable | |
02:00 | Smurk | Finished but problem with search engine now |
02:01 | And there are dozens of errors like the one i copied here | |
02:03 | records exported 0 ?? | |
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02:08 | Smurk | trying again with -u |
02:34 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
02:34 | huginn` | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 12.3°C (6:33 PM PST on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady). |
02:34 | bag | @wunder wellington nz |
02:34 | huginn` | bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). |
02:34 | bag | @wunder 06516 |
02:34 | huginn` | bag: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 5.1°C (9:30 PM EST on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady). |
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02:49 | SpaceLibrarian | My word, this has been a bumpy first day back in the saddle. |
02:50 | Irma | Hi Shelley Spacelibrarian :-) |
02:50 | HNY ! | |
02:50 | SpaceLibrarian | Hi Irma! |
02:50 | HNY! | |
02:50 | Irma | well not so new anymore |
02:50 | SpaceLibrarian | Hope you had a lovely festive season. :) |
02:51 | And a good Australia Day | |
02:51 | Irma | our time was focused on my mother and her recovery from major surgery but she and us and CALYX are all doing well again |
02:51 | SpaceLibrarian | That's fantastic to hear. |
02:51 | Irma | VALA2012? R U coming? |
02:53 | SpaceLibrarian | I wish. Will be watching online from afar... |
02:54 | Irma | Thank you .. will catch up at an other event! |
02:54 | Take care and sparkle on :-) | |
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03:07 | Smurk | Thanks, eythian ! And bye all! |
03:08 | SpaceLibrarian | Thanks Irma :D |
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03:23 | AmitG | heya bag |
03:23 | bag | yo AmitG |
03:25 | * eythian | gets back to building more packages |
03:25 | AmitG | heya Robin |
03:25 | eythian | hello |
03:39 | SpaceLibrarian | Right. Adios. |
03:39 | AmitG | heya SpaceLibrarina |
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03:47 | druthb | o/ |
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04:03 | AmitG | @wunder Bangalore |
04:03 | huginn` | AmitG: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 16.0°C (8:30 AM IST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. |
04:05 | druthb | @wunder 66049 |
04:05 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Near Free State High, Lawrence, Kansas is 6.4°C (9:39 PM CST on January 31, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Steady). |
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04:17 | stuartyeates | rangi: how was this morning? i had intended to be there, but somehow never quite made it |
04:20 | eythian | new Koha packages are deploying now folks. |
04:21 | s/are deploying/have been deployed/ | |
04:21 | bag | typos are excepted here eythian |
04:21 | :D | |
04:21 | eythian | that wasn't a typo, that was a progress statement |
04:22 | they uploaded significantly faster than usual, I think our internet may have been upgraded. | |
04:22 | or, not everyone is youtubing at this time of day | |
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05:12 | AmitG | heya cait |
05:12 | cait | hi AmitG |
05:12 | :) | |
05:13 | bag | yo cait |
05:13 | cait | hi bag |
05:14 | bag | alright I'm going to bed |
05:14 | night night | |
05:15 | cait | goood night :) |
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07:01 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]for-january-2012/ |
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07:36 | * magnuse | promises himself to do more signoffs in february than in january (which shouldn't be too hard) |
07:36 | magnuse | and kia ora #koha |
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07:50 | julian_m | hello |
07:50 | wahanui | what's up, julian_m |
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08:06 | asaurat | hi |
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08:07 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:10 | magnuse | http://americanlibrariesmagazi[…]-don-t-share-code |
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08:16 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
08:16 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
08:17 | paul_p | bonjour magnuse |
08:22 | magnuse | how did the launch of the sandboxes go yesterday? |
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08:35 | Amit_Gupta | heya magnuse |
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08:37 | kf | good morning #koha |
08:43 | magnuse | hiya Amit_Gupta and kf |
08:44 | kf | hiya magnuse |
08:48 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf |
08:55 | kf | hi Amit_Gupta |
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11:06 | paul_p | very quiet channel today ;-) |
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11:13 | kf | hi paul_p |
11:13 | yes, quiet - everyone busy | |
11:13 | paul_p | hi kf. |
11:13 | kf | were you able to solve the problem with the self checks? |
11:13 | paul_p | kf switching back to 3.2 made everything work. For instance I haven't digged more :( |
11:14 | kf | 3.2 version? but only for rfid? |
11:14 | paul_p | there's something wrong with FRENCH 3M equipments, we already knew that, but face the problem once again ! |
11:14 | yep, SIP server of 3.2 | |
11:14 | kf | hopefully we will not run into the same problem here |
11:14 | could be the line breaks | |
11:14 | that changed | |
11:14 | paul_p | I tried that, it seems that's not the only origin of the problem |
11:14 | kf | hm |
11:15 | paul_p | yesterday i concentrated on the sandbox system, that is now just waiting for feedback from early testers before being widely announced. |
11:15 | kf | if we find something, I will let you know |
11:15 | paul_p | it's rewritten the wiki page, added a nice feature (to have information about current sandbox on the sandbox setting page) |
11:15 | s/it's/i've/ | |
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11:22 | Oak | magnuse |
11:22 | kia ora #koha | |
11:22 | hello miss kf | |
11:23 | kf | hi Oak! |
11:23 | * kf | sends cookies |
11:23 | kf | how did your exams go? |
11:23 | Oak | date pushed to 20th February |
11:23 | kf | ah |
11:23 | Oak | yep. |
11:24 | kf | glad or want it to be over? |
11:24 | Oak | want it to be over |
11:24 | kf | understandable |
11:24 | Oak | :) |
11:25 | * Oak | thanks for the cookies |
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11:33 | slef | haha. The patches2bugs mailer just failed because of the new statuses. |
11:34 | what are bug statuses? | |
11:34 | bugzilla? | |
11:34 | wahanui | i heard bugzilla was found at http://bugs.koha-community.org |
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11:36 | slef | hrm http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]gi?id=fields.html looks wrong to me |
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11:47 | kf | slef: I think we never changed that page - it's still standard |
11:47 | slef | kf: should we file a bug against bugzilla? |
11:47 | kf | hm perhaps we could replace it with a page on the wiki? |
11:48 | slef | I suspect that would be a bigger change to bugzilla code. |
11:48 | Either would be fine, though. | |
11:48 | kf | yeah, but perhaps a one time change |
11:48 | and not changing with every new status | |
11:49 | *sigh* | |
11:49 | slef | I've decided to email bugs if a patch is sent to the patches list and the bug is UNCONFIRMED|NEW|ASSIGNED|REOPENED|In Discussion|Needs Signoff|Failed QA|Patch doesn't apply - that seem sensible? |
11:49 | kf | I am trying to teach koha |
11:49 | slef | cool |
11:49 | kf | tht it should not find a title including missa with a search for missae |
11:49 | and I fail | |
11:49 | slef | stemming rules not configured quite right? |
11:49 | kf | nope |
11:49 | I think it's the mappings | |
11:49 | slef | not sure how that works OTTOMH though |
11:50 | kf | in word-phrase-utf.chr |
11:50 | something in how it treats ae, ä, a | |
11:52 | slef | sounds likely |
11:53 | kf | hm |
11:53 | it might be working now | |
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13:23 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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13:45 | oleonard | Hi sekjal, how's the new job going? |
13:47 | kf | hi oleonard, hi sekjal |
13:48 | sekjal | hi, oleonard, kf |
13:48 | new job is going well | |
13:48 | getting my office set up is a slow process | |
13:48 | (this is the third time I've had to install Ubuntu) | |
13:49 | * oleonard | is officially fed up with Unity |
13:49 | sekjal | I can't stand Unity; running 10.04 LTS so I don't have to take the time to remove it |
13:50 | kf | I think I got finally used to it - but didn't use Ubuntu so much before it changed |
13:51 | * oleonard | has been trying using Gnome 3 |
13:51 | * sekjal | is looking at the library's ILS's mobile site right now |
13:52 | sekjal | it's very much in beta |
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14:04 | slef | anyone from bywater alive here? |
14:05 | NateC: just tried to reply to your email, got a "the group you tried to contact may not exist, or you may not have permission to post messages to the group" DSN Failure from Googlemail. | |
14:05 | JesseM | yep we all are |
14:06 | slef | JesseM: see comment to NateC ;) |
14:06 | JesseM | got it thanks |
14:07 | slef | as usual, googlemail doesn't report which email address that error is for :-/ |
14:07 | lunch | |
14:08 | bag | one of the email address on that list - must just be an internal one ;) |
14:08 | hi slef | |
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14:35 | kf | jcamins_away: around? |
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15:45 | jcamins | kf: Now I am. |
15:47 | kf | ah |
15:47 | good morning :) | |
15:48 | jcamins | Good morning. |
15:51 | * wizzyrea | waves |
15:52 | jcamins | Good morning, wizzyrea. |
15:52 | kf | morning wizzyrea :) |
15:53 | wizzyrea | ok guyssss |
15:53 | what do you think of this: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]/faq/circulation/ | |
15:53 | * jcamins | hisses. |
15:53 | wizzyrea | also: now taking order for faq questions and answers. |
15:53 | :P | |
15:53 | jcamins | Apparently February 1 is not just the first day of the month, it's also "International talk like a snake" day. |
15:54 | Looks good to me. | |
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15:54 | wizzyrea | O.o |
15:55 | kf | I think perhaps using a list and not italic would make it bit easier to read the list |
15:55 | but you know me... I am weird :) | |
15:55 | oh | |
15:55 | wizzyrea | oh I'm sure you're right. |
15:55 | kf | ok, I should have clicked the links |
15:55 | that's nice! | |
15:55 | wizzyrea | I might be able to have them expanded by default |
15:56 | do note, the others haven't been ported to the new system yet | |
15:56 | the other faq pages. | |
15:58 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ | |
15:58 | has tho :P | |
15:58 | also with a newly rewritten "my zebra is bustid, help" | |
16:06 | kf | wizzyrea++ :) |
16:10 | jcamins | Wow! I signed off the most bugs in January? |
16:10 | kf | yep :) |
16:10 | jcamins++ | |
16:11 | jcamins | Cool. |
16:11 | * oleonard | applies a sticker to jcamins on which a rhinoceros exclaims "Good work!" |
16:11 | jcamins | A rhinoceros? |
16:12 | * chris_n | agrees with kf's assessment of the italic text fwiw |
16:12 | oleonard | jcamins: You would prefer a yak? |
16:12 | sekjal | wow, the umich_bib sample MARC record set is.. quite large |
16:12 | chris_n | the list needs an auto-responder which searches for the term "zebra" in mails and responds with a link to the search FAQ |
16:13 | kf | chris_n: actually... that could work |
16:13 | jcamins | sekjal: yeah, pretty great, isn't it? |
16:13 | sekjal | jcamins: might blow out my VM's tiny little harddrive |
16:13 | especially if I try to index it | |
16:13 | * chris_n | wonders how large large is |
16:13 | paul_p | hi sekjal ! |
16:13 | sekjal | hi, paul_p |
16:14 | jcamins | sekjal: yes, probably would. |
16:14 | chris_n | is it as large as a rhinoceros? |
16:14 | or just as large as a yak? | |
16:14 | jcamins | sekjal: why are you loading the UMich data? |
16:14 | sekjal | jcamins: building a test database |
16:14 | * chris_n | will now go do something useful |
16:15 | jcamins | sekjal: it does take a lot of disk space. |
16:15 | sekjal | chirs_n: surely there is some kind of correlation between mass and MARC |
16:15 | jcamins | I don't remember how much disk space I used. |
16:17 | paul_p | question to all: BULAC, that uses Koha -with progilone- has a self-registering option on OPAC : http://catalogue.bulac.fr/cgi-[…]ac-memberentry.pl it's not in community Koha yet or am I missing something ? |
16:19 | jcamins | There's something like that in Koha. |
16:19 | sekjal | jcamins: really? |
16:19 | oleonard | nuh-uh |
16:19 | jcamins | sekjal: isn't there? |
16:19 | * jcamins | looks. |
16:19 | jcamins | No, maybe not. |
16:19 | sekjal | it's been talked about, but never committed |
16:19 | too many unanswered questions | |
16:19 | jcamins | Oh, never mind. I know of a library that did it in PHP. |
16:20 | paul_p | ok, we will ask progilone to contribute their code ;-) |
16:20 | jcamins | Also called memberentry, but memberentry.php. |
16:20 | sekjal | do users get added directly, or go into a 'temp account' state until approved? What fields should be displayed? What kind of security should be used? etc etc etc |
16:20 | kf | paul_p: I think there is an enh bug for it - lots of people would like to see it :) |
16:21 | jcamins | sekjal: the UMich data is a lot for a test database- what are you testing? |
16:21 | * oleonard | would love to see it |
16:21 | sekjal | jcamins: nothing yet; I need the test DB first |
16:22 | jcamins | sekjal: I meant, what do you have on your hit list that requires that much data. |
16:22 | Whatever it is, sounds like a nifty feature. | |
16:22 | sekjal | jcamins: that's actually too much data for me |
16:22 | oleonard | Who is BULAC? Are they independent? |
16:22 | sekjal | I need a smaller set |
16:22 | paul_p | oleonard bulac is a very very large french library. |
16:22 | they are with progilone | |
16:23 | jcamins | sekjal: ah, do what I did and filter out a fun subset. |
16:23 | hdl1 | they have hourly circulation |
16:23 | jcamins | I went for the Islamic manuscripts. |
16:23 | * oleonard | grumbles |
16:25 | * jcamins | curses Worldcat. |
16:25 | * sekjal | is now at an institution that uses Aleph and WorldCat Local.... |
16:25 | jcamins | All the resources of OCLC, and searches for Hebrew don't actually work? |
16:25 | Well, Yiddish. | |
16:26 | * jcamins | chooses a few choice expletives from the language in question. |
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16:27 | jcamins | sekjal: remind them that catalog cards may be slow, but at least if you put the Hebrew in alphabetical order people will be able to find the card they want. |
16:28 | sekjal | brb |
16:29 | wizzyrea | yea tons of people want self registration |
16:29 | it's a hive of 123's tho :) | |
16:29 | doesn't mean necessarily that we should shy away. | |
16:30 | hdl1 | wizzyrea: self registration ok... fine, but without captcha system, suicide. |
16:33 | wizzyrea | captcha is bad. I'm "normal" and I can't get it half the time, must be so frustrating for differently abled people. |
16:34 | * jcamins | isn't normal. :P |
16:34 | wizzyrea | bet you still can't get it right some percentage of the time |
16:34 | hdl1 | wizzyrea: then you will have your user table polluted. |
16:34 | wizzyrea | nah, I think the way it would have to work |
16:35 | hdl1 | wizzyrea: on irc is good, on the wiki would be better. |
16:35 | wizzyrea | ohh kay. |
16:36 | kf | hdl1: I think using a temp table and clean that regularly with a script |
16:36 | wizzyrea | ^^ is what I was thinking. |
16:36 | but, meh. | |
16:36 | kf | and perhaps you could limit it to the ip range of the institution? |
16:36 | as an option? | |
16:36 | gaetan_B | bye! |
16:36 | kf | so you could have a self registration station |
16:37 | wizzyrea | ftr, i wasn't saying that you shouldn't have some kind of anti-spam. Just that captcha isn't the right choice. |
16:37 | oleonard | ...and since we haven't solved anit-spam for the cart and lists emails... |
16:38 | hdl1 | there are so many different implementation of captchas. |
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16:54 | magnuse | has anyone considered not using the data fields (000,007,008) for displaying information about material type in result lists and detail views, and instead just use the itemtypes from 942$c? |
16:55 | oleonard | Not everyone uses bib-level itemtype |
16:55 | magnuse | i have a library that has been through a couple migrations, use records imported from various source etc, so the data fields a re a mess, but 942$c is relatively trustworthy |
16:56 | * oleonard | sympathizes with the data fields being a mess, his library's too |
16:56 | jcamins | magnuse: that's already possible. |
16:56 | slef | captcha is described better at http://www.textcaptcha.com and anti-spam is even better than captchas |
16:56 | jcamins | Just disable OPACXSLTIcons or whatever it is. |
16:56 | magnuse | it is? with xslt? |
16:57 | jcamins | Then turn on the item time icons. |
16:57 | *type | |
16:57 | Pretty sure that works with XSLT. | |
16:57 | magnuse | there's one called DisplayOPACiconsXSLT |
16:57 | jcamins | Right, turn that off. |
16:58 | (I think) | |
16:58 | Then turn on item type images. | |
16:59 | Barring that, give the span that contains that stuff an id, and use jQuery to remove it. | |
16:59 | (and turn on item type images) | |
16:59 | rangi | paul_p: around? |
16:59 | paul_p | yep, for some minuts |
16:59 | (40) | |
17:00 | magnuse | jcamins: noItemTypeImages? |
17:00 | paul_p | rangi yep, for some minuts |
17:00 | rangi | cool, i saw you said aleksa is 172 |
17:00 | i think you might have missed the 4 other academy students (you pushed their tests yesterday :)) | |
17:01 | and great timing for aleksa, tomorrow is his last day, then he goes back to school too | |
17:01 | jcamins | magnuse: yeah, that's probably the one you have to change. |
17:01 | magnuse | hm, i need to implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT... |
17:01 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=summary |
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17:03 | rangi | also 5327 |
17:03 | magnuse | jcamins: hm, i can't seem to find noItemTypeImages in the MARC21 OPAC result-list XSLT |
17:03 | rangi | those db_dependent tests need to be shifted |
17:03 | because they fail unless the db exists, and when you are running make test as part of the install | |
17:03 | they will fail, because the db does not exist | |
17:04 | all the other tests don't need a database connection | |
17:04 | db_dependent doesnt mean have to have certain data in the db, but that they haave to have connection to the db | |
17:04 | paul_p | OK, so db_dependant means "a db access is needed" |
17:05 | it means there won't be many tests in t/, as *many* tests relies on database ! | |
17:05 | (i've no problem with that, it's just a comment) | |
17:05 | jcamins | magnuse: it's not used in the XSLT. |
17:05 | oleonard | It's in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl |
17:05 | jcamins | magnuse: http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]search.pl?q=smith |
17:05 | See, there are item-type icons. | |
17:06 | (also the Type: line, but you're removing that) | |
17:06 | rangi | paul_p: those are the only ones that require a db connection in there |
17:06 | all the other tests in t/ dont | |
17:07 | jcamins | Or, maybe it is done by XSLT. oleonard would know. |
17:07 | rangi | and thoses one only snuck in in the last few days :) |
17:07 | oleonard | magnuse: Did you look in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl ? |
17:08 | magnuse | oleonard: yes, but i can't see noItemTypeImages there? |
17:08 | oleonard | Oh sorry I thought we were still on DisplayOPACiconsXSLT |
17:09 | magnuse | ah, yes i found that - and i need to implement it for normarc |
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17:09 | magnuse | but how does jcamins get those big icons to the left of the titles? |
17:10 | wizzyrea | witchcraft! |
17:10 | magnuse | yeah, that would explain it! ;-) |
17:10 | slef | hmmm 20:35-22:50 France 3 Football Marseille / Nice. Coupe de la Ligue. 2e demi-finale |
17:11 | * oleonard | presumes noItemTypeImages is set to "Show" and each biblio has an itemtype set |
17:11 | magnuse | yup |
17:12 | paul_p | slef ? |
17:12 | wahanui | rumour has it slef is an encyclopedia of FOSS knowledge |
17:14 | paul_p | slef (Marseille won the "coupe de la ligue" in 2010, 2011 irrc and is in semi-final for the 2012 edition, yes it's our Marseille, there's only one in France afaik) |
17:14 | (I may watch the match while QAing and pushing some bugs. Or have some family time, still undecided ;-) ) | |
17:15 | slef | paul_p: just saw that in my tele guide |
17:16 | oleonard | magnuse: You also have to have item-level_itypes set to "biblio record" |
17:16 | magnuse | yeah, i just tried that! |
17:17 | oleonard | Still no luck? |
17:17 | magnuse | yes, changing that displays the big icons that jcamins has! yay! |
17:18 | but the description says "Use the item type of the [] as the authoritative item type (for determining circulation and fines rules, etc)." | |
17:18 | slef | paul_p: is QA order fixed or can we persuade bug 7476 up the queue? |
17:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, aleksa, Signed Off , Files executable that probably should not be |
17:18 | magnuse | so i thought that wouldn't affect the display... |
17:19 | paul_p | slef I usually QA from older to newest. But you can alway drop QA team a mail to ask for up-ing something ! |
17:19 | oleonard | good point magnuse. |
17:19 | * oleonard | is intrigued http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]?biblionumber=189 |
17:19 | slef | wahanui: QA team? |
17:19 | wahanui | slef: wish i knew |
17:20 | paul_p | rangi I find only 3 new contributors for history.txt = Bart Jorgensen Jono Mingard and Kate Henderson, am I missing someone ? |
17:20 | jcamins | oleonard: http://americanhistory.si.edu/[…]ions/numismatics/ |
17:21 | slef | ok, I suck, who's the QA team and what's their email? ;-) |
17:21 | not on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_Teams | |
17:22 | magnuse | oleonard: the documentation describes how item-level_itypes affects the icons |
17:22 | oleonard | jcamins: I thought maybe it was written by the collector: "The greatest group of coins ever gathered by one man, that man being me; by me, Herman Schaden, owner of the greatest group of coins ever gathered by one man. |
17:22 | jcamins | lol |
17:23 | magnuse | lol |
17:23 | ...and it belongs to me! | |
17:23 | jcamins | slef: sekjal, marcelr, and jdruart. |
17:23 | I think. | |
17:24 | magnuse | ok, time to make dinner - a million thanks to oleonard and jcamins for pointing me in the right direction! |
17:24 | slef | well, if jcamins is unsure too, I don't feel so bad ;) |
17:24 | this stuff should be documented | |
17:24 | magnus_afk | slef: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.8 ? |
17:25 | * jcamins | was telling everyone that magnuse was AQAM, but magnuse says he isn't. |
17:25 | magnus_afk | aqam? |
17:25 | sekjal | slef: jcamins is right about QA team |
17:26 | jcamins | Assistance Quality Assurance Manager. |
17:26 | magnus_afk | ah, Assistant QA Manager - nope, i'm a bug wrangler, and not a very good one at that |
17:27 | not enough time, bit things are looking better now, slightly | |
17:27 | jcamins | :) |
17:28 | * magnus_afk | wanders off |
17:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #607 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #605 1 j 19 h ago) |
17:30 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: adding 3 contributors from catalyst OpenSource academy <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef4dbe970ff92f544> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_5327' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9faa9299843c42fd3> / Bug 5327 - move another test around <http://git.koha-community.org/[…];a=commitdiff;h=8 |
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17:32 | * slef | goes to wash up while the guy with the angle grinder keeps disrupting his thoughts |
17:33 | fredpierre | Hey all! I got my mobile Koha changes uploaded at gitorious. Thanks for your good advice yesterday. It took me a while to figure out that I had to stage and commit my changes before I could push them to the repository. |
17:33 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
17:33 | fredpierre++ | |
17:33 | wizzyrea | :D nice! |
17:33 | sekjal | agreed, fredpierre++ |
17:34 | wizzyrea | fredpierre++ |
17:34 | oleonard | fredpierre: I missed that yesterday. Is there a version online for viewing? |
17:34 | fredpierre | They are posted as project Koha mobile web, repository kohaclone. Is that accessible to others? |
17:34 | jcamins | Not to me. |
17:34 | wizzyrea | oleonard: www.smfpl.org |
17:34 | I think | |
17:35 | fredpierre | Yes, it is online at our website www.smfpl.org, detects for mobile devices and delivers a mobile interface. |
17:35 | There's some customization with our logos and color schemes, but I think others could use the Koha part of it. I used jQuery mobile for the button menus and navigation. | |
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17:37 | wizzyrea | it's purty. |
17:37 | jcamins | Ah, here we go: https://gitorious.org/koha-mobile-web/kohaclone |
17:37 | fredpierre | Thanks! |
17:38 | The jQuery for mobile is a great framework for mobile development. | |
17:38 | Thanks jcamins. So that is accessible to all? | |
17:38 | * rangi | has lots of respect for single parents |
17:38 | jcamins | fredpierre: yes. |
17:39 | fredpierre | Excellent. I hope it useful to others. I can e-mail the list if you think it is a good idea. |
17:39 | rangi | laurel has been in hospital since 2pm yesterday, trying to get these 2 ready for school after a restless night sleep ... finally got them eating now |
17:39 | oleonard | Oh no rangi, everything okay? |
17:40 | rangi | bad asthma attack + some kinda chest infection |
17:40 | wizzyrea | :O oh no! |
17:41 | fredpierre | Expressing hope for a speedy recovery! |
17:41 | wizzyrea | ^^ same here |
17:41 | rangi | thanks |
17:42 | bad timing with first week of school and all, but the kids are coping, its just their dad who needs more sleep :) | |
17:42 | fredpierre | My four-year old dug in his heels today and didn't want to go to pre-school. I'm glad my wife was there to help - I was only two minutes late. |
17:42 | wizzyrea | my soon-to-be 4 year old did the same |
17:42 | must be the phase of the moon | |
17:42 | fredpierre | they say a twenty-four minute nap is recommended for a recharge... |
17:43 | wizzyrea | or drink a cup of coffee, then take a nap |
17:43 | fredpierre | ;) |
17:43 | rangi | kahu wants to go to school, but only because he is wearing one of his rugby shirts and is gonna play rugby he says |
17:43 | whatever works .. ill take it :) | |
17:43 | wizzyrea | I wish spud had a magic shirt |
17:43 | that made him want to go to school | |
17:44 | rangi | get him a rugby shirt :) |
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17:44 | * oleonard | knocks furiously on wood considering his kids don't fight going to school |
17:44 | oleonard | Now putting on their shoes, on the other hand... |
17:45 | rangi | ahh, our cat helps with that |
17:45 | she loves to pounce on nice pink toes | |
17:45 | fredpierre | good motivator |
17:45 | rangi | so getting socks on is easy |
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17:47 | moodaepo | fredpierre++ |
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17:52 | rangi | fredpierre++ |
17:52 | jcamins++ | |
17:53 | jcamins | rangi: what did I do? |
17:53 | * paul_p | knocks on wood too... |
17:53 | paul_p | and leave to go back home ;-) |
17:53 | bye & see you tomorrow ! | |
17:54 | wizzyrea | I would love to meet paul_p's kids someday - I bet they are charming. |
17:54 | rangi | jcamins: encouraged fredpierre to put up a git repository |
17:54 | jcamins | rangi: ah, yes. |
17:54 | Seemed like a good idea. | |
17:55 | rangi | :) |
17:56 | @later tell paul_p you missed Jorgia Kelsey want me to send a patch? | |
17:56 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
17:58 | rangi | hmm and Peter Lorimer is new too? |
17:58 | wizzyrea | I thought he was in there. |
17:59 | rangi | cant see him |
17:59 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
17:59 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef4dbe970ff92f544 |
17:59 | sanity check in case im blind | |
18:00 | wizzyrea | hm, no it's not there |
18:00 | rangi | @later tell paul_p Peter Lorimer too (not a catalyst academy student :)) |
18:00 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
18:01 | rangi | aleksa++ |
18:02 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8a9046c151ed072a9 <-- pretty darn good for a high school student doing some work over the school holidays | |
18:02 | and you should see this | |
18:03 | wizzyrea | aleksa++ |
18:03 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=7392 |
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18:06 | jcamins | Very cool. |
18:06 | cait will be happy. | |
18:11 | cait_____ | hm? |
18:12 | what will i be happy about? | |
18:13 | jcamins | aleksa's patch for bug 7392. |
18:13 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7392 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Add system preference to configure export options for OPAC detail page |
18:13 | jcamins | No, attachment 7392. |
18:13 | huginn` | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=7392&action=edit patch, Translate scripts now handle javascript variables inside strings., 0001-Bug-7327-Translate-scripts-now-handle-javascript-var.patch |
18:15 | jcamins | cait_____: Chester says hi. |
18:15 | Also, fwoomph! (that was the sound of him shedding) | |
18:16 | * jcamins | doesn't think this is what people mean when they say they are "wearing a hair shirt" |
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18:17 | cait | hi #koha |
18:18 | rangi | wb cait |
18:18 | wizzyrea | hi cait :) |
18:18 | cait | jcamins: yep it makes me happy - already started testing :) |
18:18 | and say hi back to chester and pat him from me | |
18:19 | rangi | aleksa asked yesterday if he could keep working on Koha when he finished his holiday job this week |
18:19 | jcamins | aleksa++ |
18:19 | rangi | another one hooked :) |
18:19 | cait | yaay! |
18:19 | wizzyrea | :D |
18:19 | cait | aleksa++ |
18:20 | jcamins | Hey... I bet he's always wanted to understand authorities. Just point him in the direction of bug 7284. ;) |
18:20 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
18:20 | * jcamins | looks around for more people to point it out to. |
18:21 | jcamins | Ooh, I bet schuster wants to test it. |
18:21 | rangi | hehe |
18:21 | jcamins | I'll tell him next time I see him. |
18:21 | rangi | chrisdothall is gonna test it today |
18:21 | what i had him do | |
18:21 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
18:21 | rangi | was use the old script |
18:21 | jcamins | chrisdothall++ |
18:22 | rangi | now he is gonna try the fixed/new one |
18:22 | and report the differences | |
18:22 | for a brand new batch of authorities | |
18:22 | jcamins | Sounds like a good idea. |
18:22 | wizzyrea | jcamins - don't spose we could get a standardized test plan? (or did I miss it) |
18:22 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you surely can. I will work on one. |
18:23 | I wasn't expecting the version of the patch that's attached to the bug to be the final one. | |
18:23 | (so I was going to add a test plan with the final patch) | |
18:24 | But it turns out that it handles everything we could think of to throw at it. | |
18:24 | cait | jcamins++ :) |
18:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #607: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/607/ |
18:24 | * srdjan: bug_6488: Take in account opachiddenitems when searching in opac | |
18:24 | * srdjan: bug_6210: Select framework if merging two records with different frameworks | |
18:24 | * oleonard: Bug 6210 - Follow up, Choose framework on merge | |
18:24 | * peter: Bug 6539 - When searching the catalogue, if I get no results then hit the Z39.50 search the title field in the pop up window is populated with what I searched for. | |
18:24 | * paul.poulain: Bug 6539 follow-up, fixing wrong indentation | |
18:24 | * aleksa: Bug 6631: Anonymous users can create lists in OPAC | |
18:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6210 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Choose framework on Merge |
18:24 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: bug 6631 follow-up adding author in contributors list |
18:24 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5327: Shifting a db dependent test to the right place | |
18:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6539 minor, P3, ---, peter.lorimer, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 Search ISBN Field Populated with title |
18:24 | jenkins_koha | * robin: Bug 5327 - move another test around |
18:24 | * paul.poulain: adding 3 contributors from catalyst OpenSource academy | |
18:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6631 major, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, Pushed to Master , Unrestricted creation of lists by anonymous users |
18:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P3, ---, sam-sanders, Signed Off , Unit tests required for all C4 modules | |
18:24 | wizzyrea | yay for test plans |
18:24 | jcamins++ | |
18:25 | rangi | hmm |
18:25 | jcamins | I probably won't be able to attach it to the bug until tonight. |
18:25 | wizzyrea | that's ok |
18:26 | rangi | hmm lemme see if i can quickly fix those tests before taking the kids to school |
18:29 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
18:30 | wizzyrea | ?! |
18:30 | what? | |
18:31 | rangi | hmm or not,too tricky for this time of the morning, maybe later today |
18:31 | cait | wizzyrea: configurable slips :) |
18:32 | wizzyrea | ohhhhh |
18:32 | does anyone else have an opinion about how best to handle the CSS modificaiton piece? | |
18:32 | I think it should probably be more like opacusercss | |
18:33 | instead of in the file system | |
18:33 | but - i'm willing to let it be refined - | |
18:33 | rangi | yeah, kaizen and all that |
18:33 | wizzyrea | it works the way it's coded now :) |
18:34 | cait | kaizen? |
18:34 | sekjal | wizzyrea: I'd like to see all the CSS accessible and editable in the staff client |
18:34 | wizzyrea | yea, same here. |
18:34 | rangi | cait: small continuous improvement |
18:34 | cait | aah |
18:34 | thx :) | |
18:34 | rangi | vs huge never ever get finished cos its scope creeped to death monolithic pieces of work |
18:34 | slef | not sure about that but I'm happy to see more CSS editable in wiki |
18:34 | cait | wizzyrea: sign-off and file an enh bug? |
18:35 | wizzyrea | yep, that's the plan |
18:35 | sekjal | perhaps with a WYSIWYG editor on top, so folks can verify syntax |
18:35 | wizzyrea | that would be cool :) |
18:35 | sekjal | ooh, and SASS! |
18:35 | wizzyrea | for this particular thing - the CSS is also still global |
18:35 | slef | sekjal: trouble is that WYSIWYG editors are impossible. It's WYSIWYM not WYSIWYG. |
18:35 | ||
18:35 | wizzyrea | it should be per branch. |
18:36 | again, that can be refined. | |
18:36 | my testers ( the other funders of the bug) agreed on that point too. | |
18:36 | sekjal | wizzyrea: at least per branch; perhaps also per branch/patron category |
18:36 | slef | wizzyrea: could it work with just a branch class on a high level (body?) that could then be selected by the CSS? |
18:37 | wizzyrea | slef that is especially brilliant. |
18:37 | rangi | bbiab |
18:37 | wizzyrea | (really) |
18:37 | that's a great idea. | |
18:37 | cait | slef++ |
18:37 | it really is | |
18:38 | wizzyrea | i can think of lots of applications for that approach, actually. |
18:38 | cait | wizzyrea: doe s it use the intranetcss file? |
18:38 | or only it's own? | |
18:38 | wizzyrea | no, it doesn't |
18:38 | cait | ah |
18:38 | because | |
18:38 | slef | wizzyrea: the idea of having CSS in the branch properties worries me but I can't put my finger on why. |
18:38 | cait | then it would be really easy |
18:39 | wizzyrea | well yea, but the rationale for not doing that |
18:39 | was that it wouldn't be fast enough | |
18:39 | cait | if the separate css was only an option |
18:39 | slef | I mean a CSS editable. |
18:39 | wizzyrea | if you had a lot of stuff in your intranetusercss |
18:39 | cait | slef: we don't edit the files - it's in the database |
18:39 | wizzyrea | but |
18:39 | I'm going to sign off on this the way it is | |
18:39 | as it's functional. | |
18:42 | cait | mmh warm bread |
18:43 | wizzyrea | noms |
18:43 | I'd like to stress that I believe this dev should be *refined* not changed now. | |
18:46 | cait | :) |
18:46 | oh question | |
18:46 | do you have to change something? or will it provide some default templates similar to our current templates? | |
18:47 | and did you test putting in some diacritics? :) | |
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18:48 | wizzyrea | cait, would you mind checking it for special characters/translation stuff? |
18:48 | I know you're terribly busy | |
18:49 | actually, I think I can cover special characters, but translation things... | |
18:49 | less easy for me bc I don't know what I'm looking for :( | |
18:49 | cait | good thing to check is |
18:49 | if javascript alerts are wrapped in _() | |
18:49 | wizzyrea | k, no alerts in this that I'm aware of. |
18:50 | cait | and if a book with diacritics in title shows up on the slips correctly perhaps |
18:50 | wizzyrea | k I can check that quickly :) |
18:52 | pretty sure you can't get more special character than this: http://screencast.com/t/nrBD0PR1N | |
18:53 | jcamins | wizzyrea: Hebrew/Arabic? I think that's still LtR. |
18:53 | wizzyrea | hrm ok, again! |
18:54 | cait | heh |
18:54 | jcamins | wizzyrea: for copy and paste purposes: http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]blionumber=176805 |
18:54 | cait | but it looks nice :) |
18:55 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/7nZ7ZzDjf |
18:57 | jcamins | Hm, that doesn't have the Arabic in the title I guess. |
18:58 | wizzyrea | no, I don't think it does |
18:58 | * wizzyrea | goes to look for something french :P |
18:58 | jcamins | I'm sure French will work. The question is about actual Arabic characters. |
18:59 | Maybe just copy and paste the vernacular into 245? | |
18:59 | If it's too much trouble, I'm not too bothered about this, just trying to help you be complete. | |
18:59 | wizzyrea | :) |
19:00 | deeerp I read the wrong thing | |
19:00 | stupid left to right english eyes. | |
19:00 | either way, it works :) | |
19:01 | http://screencast.com/t/ysoAJpkO | |
19:01 | jcamins | Beautiful! |
19:01 | wahanui | Beautiful! is, like, that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing |
19:01 | cait | heh |
19:01 | yep | |
19:01 | it is | |
19:01 | beautiful | |
19:02 | wizzyrea | quick slip is ok too... checking notices |
19:07 | http://screencast.com/t/6WR7jxsKTl5w looks like they are golden | |
19:08 | cait | :) |
19:09 | do you see them in the notices tab on the account page too? | |
19:09 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/emiOOGxWxizS |
19:10 | cait | so nice |
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19:26 | Space_Librarian | morning #koha |
19:27 | @wunder Wellington, NZ | |
19:27 | huginn` | Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (8:00 AM NZDT on February 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
19:27 | cait | morning Space_Librarian |
19:27 | @wunder Konstanz | |
19:28 | Space_Librarian | morning cait |
19:28 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
19:28 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.3°C (8:24 PM CET on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020.5 hPa (Steady). |
19:28 | cait | yeah |
19:28 | that feels like winter now | |
19:31 | * rangi | takes kids to school |
19:31 | rangi | bbl |
19:31 | wizzyrea | gl |
19:32 | Space_Librarian | O.o |
19:32 | Morning wizzyrea :) | |
19:32 | wizzyrea | mornin |
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19:37 | francharb | hi |
19:39 | cait | hi francharb :) |
19:40 | fredpierre | Hello from Ohio! |
19:41 | cait | hi fredpierre :) |
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19:41 | fredpierre | We had some puppet problems today, finally found bug 6374, solved my puppet "size" problem! |
19:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6374 normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there) |
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19:44 | cait | hi aleksa |
19:44 | :) | |
19:44 | aleksa | hi cait |
19:46 | jcamins | Hm. No oleonard. |
19:46 | I was going to ask if he'd ever used XForms, and what he thought of it. | |
19:47 | Has anyone here used XForms? | |
19:48 | cait1 | not even heard of it :( |
19:48 | * jcamins | had heard of it vaguely, but doesn't really know anything about it. |
19:51 | cait | ok |
19:51 | going to put some more ram into this laptop... wish me luck :) | |
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19:51 | magnuse | good luck cait |
19:52 | cait1 | thx :) |
19:52 | jcamins | Good luck. |
19:55 | * rangi | decides to try to work from home |
19:55 | jcamins | rangi: why's that? |
19:56 | rangi | cos i have a 3 year old here with me :) |
19:56 | * wizzyrea | waves at ata |
19:56 | rangi | the 5 year old is at school |
19:56 | * wizzyrea | envisions lots of pocoyo in rangi's future |
19:56 | jcamins | Ah. |
19:56 | * jcamins | waves to Ata. |
19:56 | * magnuse | waves to Ata |
19:57 | jcamins | rangi: you should set him up hacking on Koha. :) |
19:57 | wizzyrea | I tried that with spud once |
19:57 | he was super good at special characters. | |
19:57 | rangi | heh |
19:58 | magnuse | ooh, that's handy when you're programming in perl... ;-) |
19:58 | * cait1 | waves at Ata |
19:59 | jcamins | magnuse: even more handy when you're programming in APL. ;) |
19:59 | * magnuse | googles apl |
19:59 | * jcamins | never really got into APL programming. |
20:00 | has apparently dated the books he used to learn programming. | |
20:00 | jcamins | ;) |
20:00 | magnuse | x[⍋x←6?40] |
20:00 | jcamins | Also, the father of one of my friends growing up was one of the developers for APL2000. |
20:01 | magnuse | that would take some getting used to... |
20:01 | ooh, cool! | |
20:03 | cait joined #koha | |
20:04 | cait | back :) |
20:04 | it didn't explode | |
20:04 | I will take that as a good sign :) | |
20:04 | jcamins | RAM all installed? |
20:04 | cait | yep |
20:04 | was easy :) | |
20:05 | only the first time I used a screwdriver on my shiny new laptop | |
20:05 | well... not really so shiny any more.... | |
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20:38 | jcamins | magnuse: perhaps there should be a separate syspref for the item type image. |
20:38 | Would that make sense? | |
20:39 | Space_Librarian | it does from the cheap seats. |
20:41 | cait | item type images where? |
20:41 | * magnuse | just reported a bug for that too ;-) |
20:41 | gotta run! | |
20:41 | cait | because I think we have 2 sysprefs,... one for the small images in records and one for the authorized values in general |
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20:42 | jcamins | Excellent. |
20:42 | cait: the item type images on the left in the search results. | |
20:42 | Not the ones in XSLT. | |
20:42 | cait | on the left... hm. |
20:42 | on the left? | |
20:43 | for biblio level itypes? | |
20:43 | jcamins | http://donum.numismatics.org/c[…]search.pl?q=smith |
20:43 | Right. | |
20:43 | Space_Librarian | jcamins: that looks good. |
20:44 | cait | oh |
20:44 | analytics :) | |
20:44 | jcamins: I think it shoudl be a syspref | |
20:45 | will not work for libraries not using the bilbio level itypes | |
20:45 | * libsysguy | would like google analytics integration |
20:45 | libsysguy | heard analtyics |
20:45 | maybe a syspref for your google id | |
20:46 | jcamins | cait: right, I'm saying there should be a syspref other than item-level_Itypes |
20:46 | libsysguy: someone submitted a patch for that. | |
20:46 | cait | libsysguy: i would hate it |
20:46 | libsysguy: I have enough trouble with covers and other things - don't need google in there too :( | |
20:46 | libsysguy | really cait? |
20:46 | cait | yep |
20:46 | wizzyrea | no, if we do analytics integration we should do it with piwik :P |
20:47 | cait | and oyu can already do it I think, putting the code in one of the sys prefs |
20:47 | sekjal | libsysguy: I think you could just add the code to the opaccredits, right? |
20:47 | cait | yep |
20:47 | wizzyrea | plus, you can already do it using opacuserjs |
20:47 | cait | or that |
20:47 | wizzyrea | or any of the other user editable |
20:47 | libsysguy | yeah thats how I do it now |
20:47 | * jcamins | heads out. |
20:47 | wizzyrea | bits and bobs. |
20:47 | sekjal | would be interesting to see OPAC usage patterns |
20:47 | wizzyrea | it *is* interesting to see opac usage patterns |
20:47 | libsysguy | i use it for search terms |
20:48 | rangi | another 24 hours at least |
20:48 | * sekjal | 's new OPAC is on a separate Google Analytics account from everything else, and the common discovery layer isn't analyzed at all |
20:49 | wizzyrea | what is another 24 hours? |
20:49 | * Space_Librarian | looks interested |
20:49 | * wizzyrea | whispers piwik.... piwik.... |
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20:50 | * oleonard | thinks wizzyrea is mimicking the sound of water drips in her dungeon cell |
20:50 | * Space_Librarian | agrees with oleonard |
20:50 | wizzyrea | I have a dungeon? |
20:50 | sweet! | |
20:51 | Space_Librarian | thought you'd like that |
20:51 | sekjal | okay, I'm out for the day. cheers, #koha |
20:53 | cait | magnus_afk: about bug 7490 - I think I did that - for MARC21 |
20:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7490 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add IDs to results_summary'ies in staff XSLT detail view |
20:54 | magnus_afk | cait: not that i can see? |
20:55 | cait | hm weird |
20:55 | let me find the bug | |
20:55 | oleonard | cait: Was it only in the OPAC? |
20:56 | cait | bug 6901 |
20:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6901 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add CSS classes/ids to OPAC and staff XSLT views |
20:56 | cait | nope both |
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20:56 | * oleonard | sees that you're right |
20:57 | oleonard | "<span class="results_summary series">" |
20:57 | cait | was wondering if magnus looked at normarc |
20:57 | rangi | piwik.koha-community.org |
21:01 | i set that up, for koha libraries to use, if ppl want an account, let me know | |
21:01 | its only doing the main koha site and nekls at the moment | |
21:01 | consider this a soft launch :) | |
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21:02 | cait | :) |
21:03 | francharb | see ya |
21:05 | Space_Librarian | rangi: thanks fantastic! |
21:08 | that's* | |
21:09 | rangi | :) |
21:09 | wizzyrea | I've been using it, i think it's fab. |
21:17 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
21:35 | magnus_afk | rangi++ |
21:36 | Space_Librarian | rangi ++ I may talk to you about using it here... |
21:37 | cait | rangi++ |
21:37 | :) | |
21:37 | eythian | rangi: why is there beer on my desk, do you know? |
21:37 | * magnus_afk | has piwik set up and will offer it to his customers soon |
21:38 | eythian | not that it's a bad thing, I'm just curious. |
21:39 | cait | lol |
21:39 | rangi | hmm wasnt me |
21:39 | what type of beer is it? | |
21:40 | Space_Librarian | eythian - we owe you beer here, so there may be more on it's way. When I've got the bottom on the mapping madness. |
21:40 | eythian | rangi: 4 different craft stouts |
21:40 | Space_Librarian: :D | |
21:40 | rangi | ohh, hmm no idea |
21:41 | eythian | maybe it's compensation for 3 weeks in auckland |
21:41 | rangi | could be |
21:41 | Space_Librarian | eythian: NP - if it's been an interesting 24 hours for me, I can imagine what you've had to deal with. |
21:41 | eythian | I guess you're getting in at the deep end :) |
21:42 | Space_Librarian | somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic. |
21:44 | wizzyrea | cait you still up ? |
21:44 | cait | yeah |
21:45 | wizzyrea | you like these better expanded? |
21:45 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ | |
21:45 | cait | trying to write something clever about 'datenträgeraustausch' for my distance study |
21:45 | hm | |
21:45 | eythian | date rage sounds like a bad thing. |
21:45 | cait | I like the styling of the questions better |
21:45 | wizzyrea | :) |
21:45 | cait | but not sure about expanded or not |
21:45 | if we show them expaned... the big win of finding your question faster is gone | |
21:46 | wizzyrea | yea that's what I was thinking |
21:46 | so | |
21:46 | I just wanted to hear someone else say what I was thinking >.> | |
21:46 | if you refresh | |
21:46 | they should be back to collapsed | |
21:47 | cait | hmmm |
21:47 | there is a searching | |
21:47 | that shouldn't be there I think | |
21:47 | but else... I like :) | |
21:48 | magnus_afk | welcome back eythian - i'll send you the summary of my experience rebasing the l10n work on 3.6..x one of these days :-) |
21:48 | eythian | magnus_afk: awesome :) |
21:48 | wizzyrea | cait - which? |
21:48 | cait | the small one above the list |
21:48 | wizzyrea | oh. yea, I was just looking at that, it's part of the plugin. |
21:49 | cait | oh |
21:49 | wizzyrea | digging it out now |
21:49 | cait | could we use it to have different sections? |
21:49 | eythian | magnus_afk: I'd hoped to work on it when I was away, but work up there was pretty draining, so I didn't really have the energy. |
21:49 | cait | perhaps should be a bit more prominent then |
21:49 | and not the same as the headline | |
21:49 | wizzyrea | technically we could have all of the faq's on one page |
21:49 | sec, demonstration. | |
21:50 | magnus_afk | eythian: no worries, i got it to work and there were only a couple of small "things" |
21:50 | cait | small "things" looks suspicious |
21:50 | I would hide if I was eythian | |
21:51 | germs* | |
21:51 | germs? | |
21:51 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
21:51 | eythian | magnus_afk: cool |
21:51 | cait: haha | |
21:51 | cait | wizzyrea: could we number them? |
21:51 | wizzyrea: so you could say, hey, check searching faq, numbe 123 | |
21:53 | wizzyrea | ok sorry, refresh http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/faqs/ |
21:53 | that has sadly very little organization | |
21:53 | but, is atomically searchable. | |
21:54 | but, gimme just a min. | |
21:55 | fredpierre | I like those FAQs! |
21:56 | magnus_afk | g'night #koha |
21:56 | eythian | bye magnus_away |
21:57 | wizzyrea | refresh again http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/faqs/ |
21:57 | fredpierre | I'm going home, one more promo for our Koha mobile web, hosted at gitorious - https://gitorious.org/koha-mobile-web#more |
21:58 | wizzyrea | :D |
21:58 | fredpierre | I enjoyed my first day on the koha channel. Y'all rock! - Fred from Ohio |
21:59 | wizzyrea | come back and play another day! |
21:59 | fredpierre | will do! |
21:59 | wizzyrea | cait - I suppose I could number them, or more likely make the plugin number them for me (because I'm terribly lazy) |
22:01 | warning I'm about to break te faq :P | |
22:03 | ...oh, never mind. I like it when an idea works about right the first time. Heh. | |
22:05 | Space_Librarian | wizzyrea - awesome! :) |
22:06 | wizzyrea | I have yet things to break! |
22:06 | * wizzyrea | laughs evilly |
22:06 | cait | wizzyrea: now we have 2 searching |
22:06 | hm 3 | |
22:06 | wizzyrea | cait: probably not the time to be looking carefully at it |
22:07 | as i'm muckin aobut with it | |
22:07 | cait | ah ok |
22:07 | * cait | looks away |
22:07 | wizzyrea | :) |
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22:28 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
22:28 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -5.8°C (11:24 PM CET on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Steady). |
22:29 | Judit joined #koha | |
22:29 | Judit | hi |
22:29 | eythian | hi Judit |
22:29 | cait | hi Judit |
22:29 | and good night #koha :) | |
22:31 | eythian | bye cait |
22:32 | cait left #koha | |
22:33 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence ks |
22:33 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 16.8°C (4:32 PM CST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Steady). |
22:33 | wizzyrea | in january, that's crazy talk. |
22:33 | Judit | it is 20here |
22:33 | wizzyrea | normal for you though, right? |
22:33 | collum | Yep. My grass is growing |
22:33 | Judit | in febr??? |
22:33 | Space_Librarian | cold for sydney, wizzyrea |
22:34 | hey Judit! :) | |
22:34 | Judit | hi |
22:34 | collum | @wunder 41017 |
22:34 | wizzyrea | what's the normal temp for sydney? |
22:34 | huginn` | collum: The current temperature in Van Aachen, Erlanger, Kentucky is 15.1°C (5:34 PM EST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
22:34 | wizzyrea | for feb 1 |
22:34 | last year it was snowing gobs and gobs. | |
22:34 | Judit | 40 |
22:34 | wizzyrea | golly |
22:35 | 40 is about the same as summer here | |
22:36 | a hottish day in summer | |
22:36 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
22:36 | huginn` | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 17.2°C (2:36 PM PST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). |
22:36 | wizzyrea | so yea, you're too cold and we're too hot |
22:36 | :) | |
22:36 | and bag is in a microcosm of perfect. | |
22:37 | uh, thunderstorms here, on friday?! that seems ... weird. | |
22:37 | drojf | @wunder berlin |
22:37 | huginn` | drojf: Error: No such location could be found. |
22:37 | drojf | pff |
22:37 | berlin is too small :) | |
22:37 | maximep | @wunder cyqb |
22:37 | huginn` | maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -7.0°C (5:00 PM EST on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
22:37 | wizzyrea | @wunder berlin, germany |
22:37 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -9.0°C (11:13 PM CET on February 01, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039.2 hPa (Steady). |
22:37 | drojf | thanks wizzyrea |
22:38 | i win | |
22:38 | * wizzyrea | assumed germany |
22:38 | drojf | i win santa clause. or something :( |
22:38 | maximep | oooooh somewhere colder than here |
22:38 | wizzyrea | ok so rain for 2 days and then ... snow |
22:38 | and then back up into the teens? wtf is wrong with our weather. | |
22:39 | Space_Librarian | wunder @wellington, new zealand |
22:39 | wizzyrea | @wunder wellington, nz |
22:39 | Space_Librarian | meh rusty brain lol |
22:39 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 02, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
22:39 | wizzyrea | colder there than here! |
22:39 | Space_Librarian | thank wizzyrea |
22:39 | it is. Pretty chilly to work this morning. | |
22:40 | wizzyrea | http://graphical.weather.gov/s[…].php?element=MaxT |
22:40 | * jcamins_away | peers in. |
22:45 | * drojf | wonders if the import script will ever work |
22:45 | wizzyrea | ? |
22:46 | drojf | my script to convert our data from an evil filemaker database to marc21 |
22:46 | wizzyrea | oh :) |
22:46 | * jcamins_away | hides. |
22:48 | wizzyrea | actually, I ditched the idea of separate pages for each category of the faq - not enough to necessitate that |
22:48 | they're all on one page now | |
22:50 | jcamins | Makes sense to me. |
22:50 | wizzyrea | if you come up with anymore, let me know |
22:50 | * jcamins | will be sure to do so. |
22:50 | wizzyrea | eythian - a thought - wahanui keeps lots of faq's |
22:51 | a way to get a dump of his memory so I can poke through it for faqs? | |
22:51 | jcamins | wahanui: help? |
22:51 | wizzyrea | graphicsmagick? |
22:51 | wahanui | rumour has it graphicsmagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11 |
22:51 | wizzyrea | like that one |
22:53 | * jcamins | pokes vigorously at CollectiveAccess. |
22:53 | eythian | wizzyrea: I don't know. I'm sure it's possible somehow. |
22:54 | wizzyrea | well no particular hurry. |
22:54 | * eythian | has a quick look |
22:54 | wizzyrea | poke at it if you get a wild hair or need a fluffy project to rest your mind on. |
22:56 | jcamins | "A system for cataloguing fossil egg shells." |
22:56 | eythian | I'm going to take wahanui offline temporarily to try something |
22:56 | bye wahanui | |
22:56 | jcamins | I would not have thought that would be needed very often. |
22:57 | Space_Librarian | I'm always concerned when eythian starts playing with the bots... |
22:57 | eythian | hello wahanui |
22:57 | wahanui joined #koha | |
22:59 | eythian | wizzyrea: check your email for some bedtime reading |
23:00 | i assume title? | |
23:00 | wahanui: i assume title | |
23:00 | wahanui | eythian: what? |
23:00 | eythian | hmm odd |
23:00 | I think there's stuff in there that isn't readily accessible | |
23:00 | wahanui: perlvar | |
23:00 | wahanui | i guess perlvar is very interesting |
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23:01 | eythian | wahanui: wizzyrea the maser of all that |
23:01 | wahanui | i guess wizzyrea the maser of all that is wiki |
23:01 | eythian | hehe |
23:01 | you're a maser | |
23:01 | Space_Librarian | nice one. |
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23:03 | eythian | 867-5309 |
23:03 | wahanui | 867-5309 is the loneliest number. |
23:03 | eythian | tall paul |
23:03 | wahanui | tall paul is tall |
23:03 | * jcamins | catalogs his cat. |
23:05 | Judit | :) |
23:05 | you stick a barcode on her? | |
23:05 | eythian | wahanui: wahanui |
23:05 | wahanui | i am probably a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow. |
23:05 | eythian | wahanui: melia |
23:05 | wahanui | I LIKE BEER AND I LOVE ANSWERING RFP |
23:06 | jcamins | Judit: right now I'm trying to figure out how to add a picture. |
23:06 | melia | heh |
23:06 | eythian | wahanui: what is the saddest thing |
23:06 | wahanui | eythian: i haven't a clue |
23:06 | eythian | wahanui: what \is the saddest thing |
23:06 | wahanui | eythian: i haven't a clue |
23:07 | eythian | wahanui: the saddest thing |
23:07 | wahanui | eythian: huh? |
23:07 | eythian | hmm |
23:07 | Judit | jcamins: try googlejackets with the isbn:) |
23:08 | jcamins | Judit: heh. I'm using CollectiveAccess. |
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23:10 | eythian | wahanui: the saddest thing is <reply>⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
23:10 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
23:10 | eythian | wahanui: the saddest thing |
23:10 | wahanui | ⛄ U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW |
23:20 | jcamins | Yay! |
23:20 | I managed to upload an image! | |
23:43 | Woohoo! I managed to get the public interface working, too! | |
23:44 | Judit | the cats public interface??? |
23:44 | jcamins | The public interface for the catalog of cats. |
23:45 | Actually... | |
23:45 | That's a great idea. | |
23:45 | I will catalog dozens of cats in Refbase, Koha, CollectiveAccess, and possibly Omeka. | |
23:46 | That will demonstrate the differences. | |
23:48 | Judit | poor cats:/ what shelving location? |
23:48 | jcamins | Judit: http://screencast.com/t/4CUepL5hqKq |
23:49 | The shelving location is "French dictionary." | |
23:49 | ;) | |
23:49 | Judit | :D |
23:52 | maximep left #koha |
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