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| 00:38 | clrh joined #koha | |
| 00:44 | jcamins_away | Hello, New Zealand! |
| 00:45 | (and everyone else) | |
| 00:46 | clrh joined #koha | |
| 00:46 | chrisdothall | jcamins_away: hello from nz :) |
| 00:49 | kathryn | hi jcamins I'll take that as a hi to me too! (I work with chrisdothall and rangi) |
| 00:50 | jcamins | Hi kathryn. :) |
| 00:52 | kathryn | : ) I'm a little quiet but I'm here! |
| 00:52 | jcamins | And we're very glad to have you. :) |
| 00:56 | kathryn | why thank you! maybe I should ask more questions here then I don't have to hassle rangi so much : ) |
| 00:57 | jcamins | You can hassle rangi on #koha! |
| 00:58 | That's our preferred method. ;) | |
| 00:58 | kathryn | true! |
| 01:21 | jcamins | rangi: around? |
| 01:21 | eythian | he ain't |
| 01:21 | well, he's not here anyway | |
| 01:21 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 01:22 | I guess the world won't have the benefit of rangi's moderating influence on my tetchy comment. | |
| 01:25 | So... does that comment make clear that I think this is an issue? | |
| 01:27 | *important issue | |
| 01:32 | eythian | "this" is not defined: core dumped |
| 01:38 | jcamins | eythian: bug 7359. |
| 01:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7359 blocker, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace |
| 01:39 | jcamins | The fact that every single "regular" 3.6.3 and 3.4.8 install will be broken. |
| 01:39 | eythian | ah. I might hold off on making the packages for a little while then. |
| 01:41 | jcamins | Yes, please do. |
| 01:42 | Better to have people wondering why there are no packages than wondering why Koha won't work. | |
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| 03:22 | AmitG | heya bag |
| 03:33 | * chris_n | wonders briefly if there is any association between his being disconnected and the last line in the irc buffer including the words "core dumped" :) |
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| 04:30 | * rangi | downgrades the severity of 7359 |
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| 04:58 | rangi | its only 2 pages |
| 04:58 | not Koha not working, 2 new features are broken, the rest work fine | |
| 04:59 | cait | ah, so 7359 only affects the new feature? |
| 04:59 | rangi | yes |
| 04:59 | for 929 | |
| 04:59 | cait | right |
| 04:59 | rangi | it only affects the templates that use that plugin |
| 04:59 | cait | and easy to workaround I guess? |
| 05:00 | rangi | yep, copy the file |
| 05:00 | cait | cool |
| 05:00 | not bad at all then | |
| 05:00 | rangi | still worth pushing |
| 05:00 | cait | yep |
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| 05:29 | AmitG | hey aBob |
| 06:21 | rangi | oh is the survey results out? |
| 06:23 | lol | |
| 06:23 | the old low levels of interest | |
| 06:24 | thats why i never tell anyone to fill in his survey its statistically unsound | |
| 06:24 | and hsis conclusions are always biased against open source | |
| 06:26 | but ouch .. liblime .. bottom or 2nd to bottom on everything | |
| 06:26 | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]erceptions2011.pl | |
| 06:41 | good to see actual koha score really well | |
| 06:42 | even if marshall seems to interpret that as not well, meh | |
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| 06:44 | cait | agreed |
| 06:44 | not a lot of comments this year | |
| 06:45 | rangi | no |
| 06:45 | not too many at all | |
| 06:46 | pleased to see the 2 catalyst ones who choose to respond said we do good, so im happy with that | |
| 06:48 | cait | :) |
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| 07:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:33 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune |
| 07:35 | cait | hi reiveune |
| 07:35 | rangi | hi reiveune |
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| 07:35 | reiveune | hi rangi , cait , everybody :) |
| 07:35 | rangi | hi laurence |
| 07:36 | laurence | hi rangi |
| 07:36 | hi #koha | |
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| 07:37 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:37 | wahanui | hi, alex_a |
| 07:40 | cait | hi laurence and alex_a |
| 07:40 | rangi | hi alex_a |
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| 07:44 | rangi | hi paul_p |
| 07:46 | cait | hi paul_p |
| 07:46 | paul_p | hello #koha |
| 07:47 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 07:47 | rangi | hi magnuse |
| 07:48 | cait | morning magnuse |
| 07:51 | cait left #koha | |
| 07:51 | magnuse | hiya cait-not-here-anymore and rangi |
| 07:51 | rangi | heh |
| 07:52 | magnuse | wassup? |
| 07:52 | rangi | marshalls perceptions report is out |
| 07:52 | the numbers look great for koha | |
| 07:52 | not great at all for liblime | |
| 07:52 | magnuse | ah, yes i saw you and cait chatting about that earlier |
| 07:53 | rangi | but somehow the conclusions marshall draws dont reflect the numbers |
| 07:53 | magnuse | interesting... |
| 07:53 | wahanui | interesting is good |
| 07:53 | rangi | but then again .. they never do |
| 07:53 | magnuse | heh, that's a shame |
| 07:53 | i sent it to my kindle, will peruse it later | |
| 07:53 | rangi | cool |
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| 07:55 | marcelr | hi koha |
| 07:55 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
| 07:55 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 07:56 | rangi? | |
| 07:56 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 07:56 | rangi | yup |
| 07:57 | marcelr | about etc; should it install there? |
| 07:57 | magnuse | cool: http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/ |
| 07:57 | rangi | standard one? |
| 07:57 | yes | |
| 07:57 | thast where it puts the koha-conf.xml | |
| 07:57 | marcelr | did not do that long time |
| 07:58 | rangi | well thats if you just hit return at the defaults |
| 07:58 | * rangi | does another one |
| 07:59 | rangi | (ive done 2 today but very rarely do them now im not RM, since i use the packages, i used to do them as part of the release tho) |
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| 07:59 | marcelr | ok |
| 07:59 | julian_m | hello |
| 08:00 | rangi | yep, hitting enter |
| 08:00 | marcelr | hi julian_m |
| 08:00 | julian_m | hi marcelr, hi rangi |
| 08:02 | rangi | $(KOHA_INST_KOHA_CONF_DIR) $(KOHA_DEST_KOHA_CONF_DIR) |
| 08:02 | magnuse | wow, those are seriously long item types... http://library.engr.tu.ac.th/c[…]pl?biblionumber=3 |
| 08:02 | rangi | goes to |
| 08:02 | OHA_DEST_KOHA_CONF_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/etc/koha | |
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| 08:03 | rangi | and DESTDIR = |
| 08:03 | marcelr | yes? |
| 08:03 | rangi | so yeah, /etc/koha is where it will go |
| 08:03 | marcelr | but you cant change it |
| 08:04 | rangi | KOHA_DEST_INTRANET_CGI_DIR = $(DESTDIR)/usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin |
| 08:04 | yep | |
| 08:04 | its always been like that for a standard install | |
| 08:04 | magnuse | wb cait |
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| 08:05 | rangi | but thats totally separate to the new problem of the Makefile.PL ignoring hte Koha dir |
| 08:05 | asaurat | hello |
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| 08:06 | rangi | hi asaurat hdl and gaetan_B |
| 08:06 | marcelr | rangi: yes |
| 08:06 | hi asaurat | |
| 08:07 | hdl | hi rangi |
| 08:08 | gaetan_B | hello #koha :) |
| 08:10 | marcelr | hi gaetan_B |
| 08:11 | rangi | marcelr++ # thanks for the quick qa |
| 08:11 | marcelr | np |
| 08:20 | cait_ | hi all |
| 08:22 | magnuse | hi cait_ |
| 08:22 | marcelr | hi cait |
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| 08:26 | magnuse | hi kf |
| 08:26 | rangi | hi kf |
| 08:27 | kf | no back for real |
| 08:27 | magnuse | woohoo! ;-) |
| 08:27 | marcelr | real? |
| 08:27 | kf | was testing a new irc client on phone earlier |
| 08:27 | and s/no/now/ | |
| 08:28 | marcelr | ;) |
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| 08:33 | francharb | hi |
| 08:33 | wahanui | bonjour, francharb |
| 08:33 | kf | hi francharb :) |
| 08:34 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
| 08:35 | rangi | hiy francharb and sophie_m |
| 08:35 | sophie_m | hi rangi |
| 08:35 | francharb | hi kf rangi |
| 08:35 | kf | bonjour sophie_m :) |
| 08:36 | sophie_m | Guten Tag kf |
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| 08:42 | marcelr | hi sophie_m and francharb |
| 08:52 | could anyone of you reproduce the problem of bug 3264 (comment 10) ? takes a minute or two .. | |
| 08:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3264 critical, P1 - high, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , UnCloneField() / minus button in MARC editor can clear all subfields (authorities AND biblio) |
| 09:18 | rangi | marcelr: if no one has by tomorrow ill check on my computer at work, dont have firefox on this one, just chromium |
| 09:19 | marcelr | you could check it there too? |
| 09:19 | does not depend on firefox | |
| 09:19 | has to do with function in C4 module | |
| 09:20 | well, thinking further it could be related to browser (order of params and handling empty params) | |
| 09:22 | rangi | hmm but jared couldnt reproduce |
| 09:22 | even after comment 10 | |
| 09:23 | * rangi | tries |
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| 09:26 | rangi | hmm i cant recreate either i removed the 4 |
| 09:26 | and the rest of the 700 stayed there | |
| 09:27 | * rangi | tries making 2 4 subfields |
| 09:29 | rangi | hmm nope still seems to work fine |
| 09:29 | asaurat | bug 7455 has to do with this kind of function too |
| 09:29 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field |
| 09:30 | asaurat | seems tricky to correct |
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| 09:42 | marcelr | rangi: thanks for testing, have to see which browsers (under which version..) do have this problem |
| 09:43 | bug does depend on not receiving empty params which makes the function stumble over unexpected order | |
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| 10:33 | * kf | hands out the duct tape |
| 10:46 | magnuse | hey, it worked! |
| 10:56 | kf | heh |
| 10:56 | lunch time :) | |
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| 11:15 | druthb | o/ |
| 11:16 | magnuse | \o |
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| 11:41 | AmitG | heya druthb |
| 11:41 | druthb | hi, AmitG. :) |
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| 11:44 | druthb | Two Amits! :) Handy. |
| 11:44 | Awr. | |
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| 11:56 | cul_away | didn't get a chance to resolve this yesterday... unable to search in staff or opac. zebra appears to be running: 19694 0.0 0.1 3376 804 pts/0 S+ 06:53 0:00 grep --color=auto zebra. Also seems that zebra is not auto starting. |
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| 11:57 | kohaLIB | Hi all... |
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| 11:59 | kf | hi kohaLIB |
| 12:00 | kohaLIB | I have installed Koha on port Interanet 8000 & OPAC 8001...... now need to change this with 8090 & 8091 please guide me in which files i want to update |
| 12:01 | hello, kf: | |
| 12:04 | AmitG | heya kohaLIB |
| 12:06 | Culiforge | hello all |
| 12:11 | koha-restart-zebra 'instance' only gives me help file what am I not doing right? | |
| 12:12 | kohaLIB | need to change Listen port 8000 & 8001 with 8090 & 8091.... please guide the right procedure? |
| 12:17 | AmitG | change in your koha-httpd.conf file |
| 12:17 | wahanui | AmitG: that doesn't look right |
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| 12:17 | AmitG | heya wahanui |
| 12:19 | kohaLIB | AmitG: i hv altered in koha-httpd.conf but getting error "page not found" |
| 12:19 | AmitG | what error? |
| 12:20 | kf | Culiforge: perhaps without the '' ? |
| 12:21 | kohaLIB: you will also need to change in your apache configuration I think | |
| 12:21 | Culiforge | I simply put that as a placeholder for my instance |
| 12:21 | koha-restart-zebra library is actual | |
| 12:21 | kf | Culiforge: not sure then, what does the help say? |
| 12:22 | Culiforge | just the syntax list for daemon commands.. same as if I had typed -h |
| 12:22 | kf | kohaLIB: ports.conf ? |
| 12:22 | but does not tell you whats wrong? | |
| 12:23 | Culiforge: sorry, I am not a package expert - perhaps someone else will know a bit later | |
| 12:23 | kohaLIB | kf: u mean add "Listen 8090" "Listen 8091" in ports.conf |
| 12:23 | kf | yes |
| 12:23 | and restarting apache | |
| 12:24 | Culiforge | Restarting Zebra server for library / Invalid option: __user (only works for root) / usage: daemon [options] [cmd arg...] / options: |
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| 12:25 | kf | hm |
| 12:25 | perhaps permissions? | |
| 12:25 | Culiforge | kf: ran as sudo and as root, same result |
| 12:26 | kf | sorry out of ideas |
| 12:27 | Culiforge | kf: np, i'll keep poking around |
| 12:29 | kohaLIB | kf: thanks buddy... it's work |
| 12:29 | kf: no any other change require?? | |
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| 12:34 | kohaLIB | kf: thanks for your guidance |
| 13:09 | Culiforge | aha! kf: you are correct... permissions. but why are all my permissions locked to root user? Because I had to run this to get zebra running: sudo -uroot zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml |
| 13:10 | kf | hm |
| 13:10 | that does not seem right to me | |
| 13:11 | all zebra files should be owned by your koha user | |
| 13:11 | and starting zebrasrv should work without sudo | |
| 13:11 | jcamins_away | Culiforge: don't use -uroot |
| 13:11 | Culiforge | kf: that's what I was thinking.. |
| 13:11 | jcamins_away | -ukoha or -ugary depending on which user you're running Koha under. |
| 13:11 | kf | good morning jcamins_away :) |
| 13:12 | Culiforge | jcamins: I tried -ugary and -ukoha.. no permissions |
| 13:13 | jcamins_away | Culiforge: you need to change the permissions to whichever user you're uins.g |
| 13:13 | *using | |
| 13:13 | Good morning. | |
| 13:14 | kf | jcamins++ |
| 13:14 | marcelr | hi jcamins |
| 13:14 | ? | |
| 13:15 | Culiforge | jcamins: right. but i'm just wondering why all those files are set to root. I'll fiddle with it at work today.. gotta get ready. Good morning #koha and goodbye for now. |
| 13:16 | jcamins_away | cul_away: it's because you ran it as root once. |
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| 13:16 | jcamins_away | marcelr: good morning. |
| 13:16 | marcelr | hi |
| 13:16 | wahanui | bonjour, marcelr |
| 13:16 | marcelr | jcamins: you tested a lot os |
| 13:16 | cul_away | jcamins: so running as root resets all permissions? |
| 13:16 | jcamins_away | marcelr: yeah, I may have gone a bit overboard. |
| 13:16 | cul_away: you ran it as root the first time. | |
| 13:18 | marcelr: I posted a screen capture on the bug. | |
| 13:18 | kf | jcamins++ for helping me translate manuscript english |
| 13:18 | marcelr | saw it; looks ;like what i did with another result?? |
| 13:19 | thinking about preferences or other things that may affect this.. | |
| 13:20 | jcamins_away | Yeah, I'm not sure which could have an impact, though. |
| 13:20 | marcelr | very strange.. |
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| 13:28 | oleonard | "Summaries of replacement candidates for libraries indicating they are considering migrating to a new ILS: Innovative Interfaces Sierra 88, Evergreen 87, Koha 74" |
| 13:28 | And yet, "low levels of interest in migrating to an open source ILS" ?! | |
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| 13:35 | kf | oleonard: yes, it's not right |
| 13:36 | I don't see how he comes to this conclusion from the numbers | |
| 13:41 | * oleonard | wonders why someone just added themselves to the CC list on Bug 1293 |
| 13:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1293 normal, P2, ---, chris, RESOLVED MOVED, Database installation problem |
| 13:49 | kf | confusing bug numbers? |
| 13:55 | oleonard | Marshall responds on Twitter, "It does seem ironic that the scores for the open source question are low, but open source replacements are frequently given." |
| 13:55 | What a cop-out. | |
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| 14:24 | magnuse | so when libraries are asked "are you planning on migrating to a FLOSS ILS" they say no, and when they are asked what systems they plan to migrate to they say koha and evergeen? makes perfect sense to me... |
| 14:26 | druthb | Sounds like the libraries for whom the open-source angle is not a big part of their decision. These are the ones that, when you start talking about FLOSS, say, "yes, yes, that's nice...now, does it *work*?" |
| 14:27 | magnuse | :-) |
| 14:27 | oleonard | And yet he chooses to base his conclusion on one data point which is directly contradicted by another. |
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| 14:28 | * druthb | , having met Marshall in-person, refrains from coloring the conversation with her own opinions...but she is unsurprised by the seeming contradiction that oleonard points out. |
| 14:28 | magnuse | yeah, pointing out the disparity would be much better than drawing a conclusion based on one side of the story |
| 14:32 | oleonard | If anything it's good news for us: We're competitive on the basis of functionality rather than ideology |
| 14:32 | magnuse | yay! |
| 14:32 | druthb | oleonard++ |
| 14:35 | nengard | amazon question - amazon now requires associate id be filled in - we say in the sys prefs that you sign up at aws.amazon.com but i'm not seeing an associate id there - i think you have to sign up at https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/ for the associate id - can anyone confirm/correct me? |
| 14:37 | oleonard | Amazon now requires associate id for what? |
| 14:37 | Amazon covers are the only thing that work right now | |
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| 15:05 | * magnuse | waves to wizzyrea as she wizzes past... |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | hi :) |
| 15:07 | magnuse | kia ora! |
| 15:08 | kf | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 15:15 | nengard | oleonard i thought that they required the associate id for the covers (sorry got sidetracked) |
| 15:15 | if not then great! | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | nengard: I don't think so. The template builds a direct link to the image file on Amazon.com |
| 15:15 | nengard | okey dokey |
| 15:15 | good to know | |
| 15:15 | don't remember where i read that | |
| 15:16 | * oleonard | is very pleased to submit a fix for Bug 3215 |
| 15:16 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart" |
| 15:17 | nengard | cool |
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| 15:21 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 15:22 | oleonard | Not sure why I suddenly got a bee in my bonnet about that one. |
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| 15:27 | pastebot | "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help?" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235 |
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| 15:48 | schuster | Question about command line scripts - I have a couple that I am looking at committing, but being a good citizen am trying to document the correctly. |
| 15:49 | I found the guidelines for command line scripts, but my question has more to do with how to insert that information into the .pl | |
| 15:49 | A programmer here in Plano used =head1 NAME and then put the information describing what it was doing... fancy formating... | |
| 15:50 | I looked at the rebuild_zebra and it basically did a sub print_usage { and then put all the options there and closed it _USAGE_ } | |
| 15:50 | is there a preference? or more guidance? | |
| 15:55 | kf | I think the =head is the POD |
| 15:55 | and you will also want to use something to make it put out the commands when typing -h | |
| 15:56 | I would look at newer scripts and how they do that | |
| 15:56 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ead4f4ff4ea3658da | |
| 15:56 | this is quite new | |
| 15:57 | schuster | Thanks for the response! |
| 15:57 | kf | yvw |
| 15:57 | hope it's helpful :) | |
| 15:58 | schuster | Starting in the dark so everything is helpful! |
| 15:58 | they used the =head1 NAME configuration as well so I'll go that way! | |
| 15:59 | kf | yes, I think it's called POD (plain old documentation) |
| 15:59 | http://perldoc.perl.org/perlpod.html | |
| 16:00 | nengard | looking for some report help again - anyone around who can help? (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/235 |
| 16:00 | kf ^ | |
| 16:03 | schuster | just to clarify they didn't do anything with their collection/location codes to match that? |
| 16:06 | kf | sorry nengard, no time today |
| 16:07 | jcamins | schuster: use POD. |
| 16:08 | schuster: I'd like to redo rebuild_zebra to use POD at some point. | |
| 16:12 | * magnuse | would applaud jcamins if he did |
| 16:13 | schuster | thanks jcamins - and if zebra were to change to the "proposed biblibre" indexing option then it wouldn't be worth it! |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | nengard: http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]ith-like-operator |
| 16:14 | may be helpful. | |
| 16:14 | nengard | thanks! |
| 16:14 | jcamins | schuster: no, it would be worth it. |
| 16:15 | schuster: zebra isn't going anywhere. | |
| 16:15 | schuster | wizzyrea nengard - I was wondering about like that always gets me when I do the truncation |
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| 16:47 | kf | bye all |
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| 16:47 | fredericd | Any MARC21 specialist around? |
| 16:48 | I can see that author fields (100, 70x) may have a $4 subfield | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | fredericd: I'm here. |
| 16:48 | fredericd | But I don't see that much marc21 biblios using this letter |
| 16:48 | thanks... | |
| 16:48 | In Koha, there is no autorized values for this subfield | |
| 16:48 | It isn't decoded in XSL | |
| 16:49 | Is it a good idea to use $4 at all? | |
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| 16:50 | jcamins | Yes, $4 is used for relator trms. |
| 16:50 | Very important for RDA. | |
| 16:50 | There's a bug for adding authoirzed values. | |
| 16:51 | I just signed off on it. | |
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| 16:52 | fredericd | Why is there so few MARC21 biblio records using this field? |
| 16:52 | jcamins | It's newish. |
| 16:52 | I use it a lot. | |
| 16:52 | fredericd | ok, intersting |
| 16:52 | jcamins | And other ILSes don't support it either. |
| 16:53 | fredericd | I'm migrating a catalog from UNIMARC to MARC21, and since in UNIMARC there is an equivalent $4 subfield, and a used one, I'm tempted to use it also in MARC21 |
| 16:54 | jcamins | Do. |
| 16:54 | $4 will be increasingly important. | |
| 16:55 | And Koha will be one of the first ILSes with *good* support for it. | |
| 16:55 | It will be wonderful. | |
| 16:55 | :) | |
| 16:57 | fredericd | So XSL patch coming... and an authorized values list :-) |
| 16:57 | jcamins | It's bug... |
| 16:57 | fredericd | for that: http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relacode.html |
| 16:58 | jcamins | Bug 6299 |
| 16:58 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms |
| 16:59 | fredericd | and for XSL anything you are aware of? |
| 16:59 | jcamins | Not yet. |
| 17:00 | Actually, there was a patch to show that. | |
| 17:00 | Bug 5711 | |
| 17:00 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5711 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Distinction between authors/additional authors in opac normal view (MARC21/XSLT) |
| 17:00 | jcamins | No patch yet. |
| 17:01 | fredericd | Any reason why this patch hasn't been pushed on master? (6299) |
| 17:01 | jcamins | Because I just revised it. |
| 17:02 | It failed QA due to some problems. | |
| 17:02 | I fixed them. | |
| 17:02 | And paul_p wasn't around pushing things this weekend. | |
| 17:03 | fredericd: if you have a French translation, that'd be really useful. | |
| 17:03 | fredericd | jcamins++ |
| 17:03 | schuster | nengard did you get it to work? I'm thinking of another project I have that I could use that information in a different way. |
| 17:03 | fredericd | jcamins: for the authorized values? |
| 17:03 | jcamins | fredericd: right. |
| 17:03 | * jcamins | suspects there's probably an official list. |
| 17:03 | is not fluent in French, though. | |
| 17:04 | fredericd | For the time beeing there isn't even a translation of MARC default framework |
| 17:04 | jcamins | Really? |
| 17:04 | Ewww. | |
| 17:04 | fredericd | French canadians seems to have something, but it hasn't been submitted yet as a patch |
| 17:06 | maximep | working on it =) |
| 17:07 | jcamins | maximep: while you're at it, you should do the French translation for bug 6299. :) |
| 17:07 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms |
| 17:08 | maximep | aaaaaaaah |
| 17:08 | jcamins | :) |
| 17:09 | maximep | already at 40 hours of translations for our upgrade to 3.6 and I have probably 10 hours more to do |
| 17:10 | fredericd | I've update 6299 to point to the translation into French of relator codes :-) |
| 17:10 | jcamins | Cool! |
| 17:10 | fredericd++ | |
| 17:10 | maximep | nice |
| 17:12 | nengard_lunch | schuster not really - well it might work, but i don't have enough info from the library |
| 17:12 | i'll paste my report | |
| 17:12 | fredericd | Ok, I will submit a patch for an relator code authorized values list, in French... |
| 17:13 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 17:14 | nengard_lunch | schuster http://paste.koha-community.org/236 |
| 17:14 | jcamins | fredericd: I had a question about the UNIMARC part of bug 7284. |
| 17:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 17:14 | jcamins | (you revised it) |
| 17:15 | Does it still work (as much as it ever did) when using GRS-1 indexing for UNIMARC authoritiess? | |
| 17:15 | paul_p | 3M-- |
| 17:15 | jcamins | paul_p: agreed! |
| 17:15 | 3M-- | |
| 17:15 | paul_p | still problems with 3M self-checkout at Lyon 3 universities |
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| 17:16 | paul_p | new idea : 3M french does not respect 3M specs, and a patch solving a mistake has broken everything for us... |
| 17:16 | Lyon 3 checking if we're right with this explanation | |
| 17:16 | * paul_p | should have a phone call in a few minuts... |
| 17:17 | keep finger crossed | |
| 17:17 | fredericd | paul_p: I've got the same issue with a 3M SC. I can confirm the issue with Koha 3.6 |
| 17:18 | paul_p | fredericd what did you do ? comment $/='\015' ? |
| 17:18 | local $/ = "\015"; # proper SPEC: (octal) \015 = (hex) x0D = (dec) 13 = (ascii) carriage return | |
| 17:18 | (line 157 of Sip.pm | |
| 17:19 | ) | |
| 17:19 | fredericd | I've used Koha 3.2 SIP2 server with a Koha 3.6 instance |
| 17:19 | the issue arises with Koha 3.4 | |
| 17:19 | paul_p | fredericd shame on you, it's a dirty workaround ;-) |
| 17:20 | right : the \015 thing has been added on jan 2011 | |
| 17:20 | for between 3.2 and 3.4 | |
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| 17:20 | paul_p | s/for/so/ |
| 17:20 | patch 3480ae1cacb23fee70257762c83bc3e241548f69 | |
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| 17:22 | fredericd | paul_p: not false... |
| 17:23 | paul_p | fredericd i'll let you know in a few minuts if my hack works better. |
| 17:24 | fredericd hdl is asking me to ask you if you have a working pazpar2 setup, because he is fighting against pazpar2, and not winning... | |
| 17:24 | rangi | the spec does say \r .. and yup, works fine with NZ 3M (and us) |
| 17:25 | * rangi | has 3 libraries with 3M self check machines using koha 3.6.x |
| 17:25 | fredericd | paul_p: yes, I have |
| 17:25 | rangi | (as well as overdrive and wheelers (ebook vendors)) |
| 17:26 | oleonard | rangi was roused from sleep by a disturbance in the Force generated by mention of 3M? |
| 17:26 | rangi | heh, more like an excited boy who is off to his first day of school |
| 17:27 | jcamins | Yay! |
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| 17:41 | * rangi | giggles |
| 17:42 | * magnuse | wishes Kahu good luck |
| 17:42 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:42 | cait | oh |
| 17:42 | what does Kahu need luck for? | |
| 17:43 | magnuse | first day at school |
| 17:43 | cait | ooh |
| 17:43 | good luck Kahu! | |
| 17:43 | magnuse | (unless i remember wrong and Kahu is the youngest?) |
| 17:44 | cait | no that is atarau :) |
| 17:44 | rangi | that's right :) |
| 17:44 | magnuse | cool |
| 17:44 | schuster | Oh the joys of first day of school!!! He'll be exhausted tonight! |
| 17:44 | magnuse | big day |
| 17:45 | schuster | My boys are always tired on Monday after the first day BACK to school... Guess I don't work them hard enough on the weekend! |
| 17:45 | rangi | hehe |
| 17:53 | paul_p | OK, I confirm that SIP in 3.2 work, and in 3.6 doesn't, at least for french 3M... will continue investigating tomorrow morning. Good bye world ! |
| 17:56 | cait | bye paul_p - good luck to you too |
| 17:56 | we want to update a 3m using library soon... interested in your findings | |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | interesting, we've had no issues |
| 17:59 | with 3m machines | |
| 17:59 | * wizzyrea | hopes that software update they're trying to get doesn't break it. |
| 18:02 | fredericd | jcamins: your author relator codes list isn't linked to 100 and 7xx in marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sql... |
| 18:02 | jcamins | fredericd: not by default. |
| 18:03 | fredericd: they're also not installed by default. | |
| 18:04 | The theory is, at least the authorized values list should be available for linking to the framework. | |
| 18:05 | fredericd | natürlish |
| 18:05 | cait | natürlish? :) |
| 18:05 | fredericd | that was for jcamins explanation... |
| 18:06 | jcamins | Huh? |
| 18:06 | * jcamins | supposes that was probably supposed to be a -ch. :) |
| 18:07 | fredericd | natürlish = of course |
| 18:07 | jcamins | :) |
| 18:18 | * fredericd | added a patch for relator codes in French to bug 6299 |
| 18:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms |
| 18:18 | wizzyrea | oh, like naturally? |
| 18:18 | magnuse | natürlich? |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea: exaktlich! | |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 18:28 | slef | hi all! |
| 18:28 | cait | h slef |
| 18:28 | slef | busy times here... sorry for only returning when I've a question :-/ |
| 18:28 | maximep | fredericd: so what you want is a sql of our 2 marc structure tables ? |
| 18:29 | hoping to get back to you on this by the end of the day | |
| 18:29 | slef | How-can/why-can/what-sense-does-it-make a subfield be mandatory when the tag is not? |
| 18:31 | jcamins | slef: required if applicable? |
| 18:31 | slef: but I don't think we really represent that at all in Koha. | |
| 18:34 | fredericd | maximep: yes. I could package them in a patch for installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/marcflavour/marc21/Obligatoire directory |
| 18:35 | and update to be in sync with English version | |
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| 18:39 | slef | jcamins: that might work but not sure that's how it's working. Let me explain what I've met... |
| 18:40 | I've some records that came in through bulkmarcimport and they don't have 942; however, as soon as opened in the biblio editor, they have a 942 and refuse to save, complaining about the lack of a 942$c. | |
| 18:41 | cait | that's normal - although I almost always change it |
| 18:41 | I set it to a default value in the frameworks most of the time, the normal itemtype that is used most often | |
| 18:43 | slef | Do you think I should fix the thing generating data for bulkmarcimport to include a 942$c, change the frameworks to not require it, report it as a bug, or what? |
| 18:43 | cait | I am not sure |
| 18:43 | slef | I think bulkmarcimport records go in as being default framework. |
| 18:43 | cait | I think it makes sense to have it like that if you don't use item-level itypes |
| 18:43 | slef | Not sure setting a default in the framework would help there. |
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| 18:43 | slef | I'm 99% sure this library uses item-level itypes. |
| 18:43 | Not sure if they mean to, but pretty sure they do ;-) | |
| 18:43 | jcamins | slef: fix bulkmarcimport. |
| 18:44 | slef | jcamins: so I should get a 942$c into its input? |
| 18:45 | cait | listen to jcamins - it's a cataloging question :) |
| 18:45 | * slef | looks at how to figure out 942$c from what's already in the input |
| 18:45 | jcamins | slef: I think there really *should* be 942$c in all records, so either put it into the MARC yourself, or have bulkmarcimport extract it from 952. |
| 18:45 | slef | cait: yeah. It's not an obvious one for us programmers. |
| 18:46 | jcamins: hmmm, is there an argument for having bulkmarcimport take the first 952$y if there is no 942$c, or is that silly for a reason I don't see? | |
| 18:48 | jcamins | That sounds wise to me. |
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| 18:54 | jcamins | To clarify, the 942$c is not required by other ILSes. |
| 18:54 | slef | well yeah, it's a 9xx |
| 18:54 | jcamins | However, catalogers expect the item type to be automatically set, and if 942$c is not automatically set, you end up with a lot of {item type that begins with 'A'}. |
| 18:54 | slef | in theory, anything with a 9 is local use isn't it? |
| 18:55 | jcamins | Except for 490. |
| 18:55 | ;) | |
| 18:55 | slef | @marc 490 |
| 18:55 | huginn` | slef: A series statement for which no series added entry is traced or for which the added entry is traced in one of the 800-830 fields in a form different from the form contained in field 490. (Repeatable) [a,l,v,x,6,8] |
| 18:55 | slef | that's a funny one... how did that happen? |
| 18:55 | * jcamins | doesn't know, and is afraid to find out. |
| 18:55 | jcamins | ;) |
| 18:55 | slef | heh... IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU! |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | @quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU! |
| 18:58 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | hrmph |
| 18:58 | slef | wizzyrea: yeah, I get that. |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | ez to fix :) |
| 18:58 | @quote get 23 | |
| 18:58 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
| 18:58 | jcamins | My library school is rebranding itself. |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | @quote add slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU! |
| 18:58 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #184 added. |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | i win. |
| 18:59 | slef | @quote add <wizzyrea> @quote get 23 |
| 18:59 | huginn` | slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #185 added. |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | that's so meta |
| 19:00 | @quote get 184 | |
| 19:00 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012) |
| 19:00 | slef | You mean "@quote get 185" is so meta? |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | yes |
| 19:00 | oleonard | @quote get 185 |
| 19:00 | huginn` | oleonard: Quote #185: "<wizzyrea> @quote get 23" (added by slef at 06:59 PM, January 30, 2012) |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:00 | technically I suppose they both are in their way. | |
| 19:00 | oleonard | No chance of setting up an infinite loop then |
| 19:00 | slef | tempting... very tempting... |
| 19:00 | * slef | steps away from the bot |
| 19:01 | * wizzyrea | protects huginn` |
| 19:13 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:20 | maximep | oh man, for a sec I tought it was you that was writing this |
| 19:22 | jcamins | maximep: no, not me. |
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| 19:26 | maximep | a modicum ? I guess I learned a new word today |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 19:32 | * collum | doesn't think he has ever heard the word 'communique' except on tv. |
| 19:33 | maximep | well I knew that one because it'S probably from the french word communiqué |
| 19:33 | well it is the exact same word it seems | |
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| 19:39 | schuster | So if I have a script that I am cleaning up and going to submit to the community - I was going to provide some test data for the testers. Does that go in as part of the patch or attach the data to the bug for others to test? |
| 19:39 | It is a patron loading script and I also am working on a picture loading script | |
| 19:40 | jcamins | Attach the data to the bug. |
| 19:40 | A picture loading script? | |
| 19:40 | Doesn't upload-patron-images.pl work from the command line, too? | |
| 19:40 | schuster | I was looking for that where is it? |
| 19:41 | slef | locate upload-patron-images.pl |
| 19:41 | oops | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | tools/ |
| 19:41 | slef | erm |
| 19:42 | picture-upload.pl ? | |
| 19:42 | jcamins | It's not? |
| 19:42 | That might be it. | |
| 19:42 | schuster | there it is! |
| 19:42 | slef | cool. Had me worried. |
| 19:42 | biab | |
| 19:42 | schuster | thank you very much one headache out of the way now to seee how it works vs what I have. |
| 19:43 | jcamins | schuster: I don't know how it works, I just think that it works from the command line, too. |
| 19:45 | schuster | hmmm it doesn't look like a command line tool... |
| 19:45 | jcamins | schuster: it might not work from the command line. |
| 19:46 | * jcamins | confesses he couldn't really understand how the code works. |
| 19:46 | schuster | I have 53000 borrowers that we upload patron images from a central database once a week so the one at a time or even the zip file process times out. So we have been using this as a command line cron job. |
| 19:46 | I'm trying to make sure these "Special" things are available in community... | |
| 19:50 | jcamins | schuster++ |
| 19:52 | That will be really useful for a lot of people, I think. | |
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| 20:03 | oleonard | Hi kyle |
| 20:04 | kyle | hello |
| 20:05 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 20:05 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 9.0°C (3:05 PM EST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:06 | oleonard | Feels like the temperature in my office. |
| 20:06 | schuster | @wunder 75074 |
| 20:06 | huginn` | schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 20.7°C (2:02 PM CST on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:09 | * oleonard | wonders why his Firefox is so crashy today |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | hi kyle! |
| 20:10 | kyle | hello! |
| 20:11 | * rangi | waves from the bus |
| 20:11 | * oleonard | will brb |
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| 20:12 | schuster | hey kyle how goes Koha up there! |
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| 20:14 | cait | hi oleonard, kyle and rangi |
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| 20:28 | librarygeekadam | Good day. Quick question for anyone who can help me. I am getting ready to install koha on Ubuntu and ran perl Makefile.PL and got this warning - "Warning: prerequisite Locale::Currency::Format 1.28 not found" along with "PDF::API2::Simple 1 not found". Any ideas? |
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| 20:31 | oleonard | librarygeekadam: Install those things? |
| 20:31 | librarygeekadam | i am testing that theory now to see if it fixes it |
| 20:31 | oleonard | I'm not sure why those wouldn't have been automatically installed |
| 20:31 | librarygeekadam | that's why i found it a little confusing |
| 20:31 | jcamins | You're on Ubuntu 10.04? |
| 20:32 | slef | hrrrrm... why is MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl executable? |
| 20:32 | librarygeekadam | 11.10 |
| 20:32 | jcamins | slef: 'cause my patch to fix it got rejected. |
| 20:32 | slef | jcamins: bug no? |
| 20:32 | jcamins | librarygeekadam: odd. It should've been installed. |
| 20:32 | slef: oh yes. | |
| 20:32 | * oleonard | sees them in install_misc/debian.packages |
| 20:32 | jcamins | Definitely a bug. |
| 20:32 | slef | jcamins: bug number? ;) |
| 20:32 | rangi | slef: yep def should be fixed |
| 20:32 | jcamins | slef: I don't think it has one. |
| 20:32 | slef | jcamins: so why rejected? |
| 20:32 | jcamins | slef: I fixed it as part of another thing, and someone complained. |
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| 20:33 | jcamins | So I took the chmod -x out, and didn't get around to submitting separately. |
| 20:33 | slef | jcamins: oh well a plague on both your houses ;) |
| 20:33 | jcamins | It's been executable for a long time. |
| 20:33 | librarygeekadam | ok well it went through this time |
| 20:33 | no warnings | |
| 20:33 | slef | yeah, some contributor has done something silly like chmod 755 and snuck them in |
| 20:33 | I caught an httpd.conf a while back | |
| 20:33 | librarygeekadam | I just went back into cpan and used the install command to install the files it said I was missing then reran the perl Makefile.PL command |
| 20:34 | thanks again! always a good helpful place to visit. | |
| 20:34 | slef | librarygeekadam: congratulations! Your package management system is now degraded! :-/ |
| 20:34 | librarygeekadam | why do you say that slef? |
| 20:35 | slef | librarygeekadam: because dpkg/apt-get/aptitude/synaptic knows nothing of stuff installed with cpan install |
| 20:35 | librarygeekadam: but don't mind me. This is an argument I lost a long time ago ;-) | |
| 20:35 | oleonard | slef: why do you say that? We always choose packages wherever possible don't we? |
| 20:35 | * slef | prefers dh-make-perl to cpan install |
| 20:35 | slef | oleonard: no. |
| 20:36 | oleonard | ... |
| 20:36 | cait | but for ubuntu all should be available - no need for cpan |
| 20:37 | jcamins | One of my developers has been using cpan for installing modules. I gave up on that. As long as he only uses modules that are packaged, that's good enough. |
| 20:37 | librarygeekadam | cpan not good? |
| 20:37 | rangi | cpan is fine as far as it goes |
| 20:37 | librarygeekadam | i am not a developer or programer |
| 20:37 | rangi | but if you have a debian system and there is a package available .. you should use that |
| 20:37 | jcamins | It was the only option back on early versions of Solaris. |
| 20:37 | slef | cpan is OK, but be aware that it is not managed by the usual package manager |
| 20:38 | rangi | so dist-upgrade, or security releases you have to do all yourself |
| 20:38 | not let apt-get do it for you | |
| 20:38 | slef | rangi: to be fair, you have to subscribe to release announcements for dh-make-perl'd packages too. |
| 20:38 | librarygeekadam | i see...but don't understand entirely. Do I have to do these upgrades even after koha is up and running? |
| 20:38 | slef | rangi: but doesn't http://debian.koha-community.org work on ubuntu too? |
| 20:39 | rangi | yup |
| 20:39 | slef | librarygeekadam: yes, if there's a security upgrade released. |
| 20:39 | rangi | when i say debian i meant ubuntu/mint/whatever esle as well |
| 20:39 | also there is a ppa | |
| 20:39 | https://launchpad.net/~koha/+archive/koha-stable | |
| 20:39 | which i need to update for 3.6.3 | |
| 20:40 | librarygeekadam | well, I am only testing on Ubuntu/Apache server. our real server is something else that the guys in IT handle. I am just trying to get a working koha to play with so we can see if we like it. |
| 20:41 | * oleonard | is still wondering what argument slef lost a long time ago |
| 20:42 | librarygeekadam | i have a different question now if someone is willing...I just ran "make test" and received a Fail for the first time ever (also first time using 3.06.03) |
| 20:42 | the error is "Non-zero exit status: 255 - Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1 | |
| 20:43 | "make: ** [test_dynamic] Error 255 | |
| 20:43 | slef | oleonard: to use dh-make-perl instead of cpan install. |
| 20:43 | oleonard: in other words, to use packages whenever possible. | |
| 20:43 | jcamins | slef: but we don't use cpan install for anything. |
| 20:44 | slef | ok, twit-filter me: do any of .pm files, .sql files, .tt files, .plugin files, .inc files or .abs files need to be executable? |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Other than .plugin, which I don't recognize, no. |
| 20:45 | slef | I think maybe only .plugin? |
| 20:45 | jcamins | I don't know what .plugin is. |
| 20:45 | cait | the new tt plugin maybe? |
| 20:45 | rangi | yeah the rest dont and i dont know about .plugin |
| 20:45 | slef | reports/issues_by_borrower_category.plugin |
| 20:46 | rangi | cait: nope |
| 20:46 | ahhh | |
| 20:46 | slef | is an example |
| 20:46 | perl script | |
| 20:46 | rangi | yeah that maybe |
| 20:47 | librarygeekadam | i am looking online and a lot of things say not to worry about the "error 255". Is that true? |
| 20:48 | slef | @query executable |
| 20:48 | huginn` | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
| 20:48 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, kmkale, Pushed to Master , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db | |
| 20:48 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7157 enhancement, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , Improve the j2a.pl cronjob | |
| 20:48 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6277 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , CustomLog by default | |
| 20:48 | jcamins | librarygeekadam: depends what the error is about. |
| 20:48 | librarygeekadam | Non-zero exit status? |
| 20:48 | slef | ok, someone remind me what version to report against? I'm working on master HEAD |
| 20:49 | is that master or rel_3_8? | |
| 20:49 | jcamins | Master. |
| 20:49 | librarygeekadam: there are hundreds if not thousands of tests. | |
| 20:49 | You need to find out which test is failing. | |
| 20:49 | librarygeekadam | yeah i see it failed 1/92 and 0/7310 |
| 20:49 | slef | and I guess this is "Architecture, internals and plumbing"? |
| 20:49 | jcamins | It should have said something like t/Koha_Cache.t somewhere. |
| 20:49 | slef: I think so. | |
| 20:50 | slef | can I run a shell script as a test easily? |
| 20:50 | jcamins | slef: what do you mean? |
| 20:50 | Oh, you mean to put in xt/? | |
| 20:50 | I don't know. | |
| 20:50 | slef | yeah |
| 20:51 | jcamins | Probably not. |
| 20:51 | slef | ah find-nonutf8 is a shell script |
| 20:51 | I guess it's OK | |
| 20:51 | rangi | yeah, xt/ is fine for shell i think |
| 20:51 | librarygeekadam | t/Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t (Wstat: 652870 Tests: 1 Failed: 0) |
| 20:52 | Non-zero exit status: 255 | |
| 20:52 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 20:52 | Right. | |
| 20:52 | librarygeekadam | Parse Errors: bad plan. You planned 5 tests but ran 1 |
| 20:52 | Result: Fail | |
| 20:52 | rangi | thats the only one that fails? |
| 20:52 | librarygeekadam | yeah |
| 20:52 | jcamins | Yup. Bug 7359 strikes! |
| 20:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace |
| 20:53 | rangi | you can safely ignore that then, it will be fixed soo |
| 20:53 | n | |
| 20:53 | librarygeekadam | ok |
| 20:53 | thank you! | |
| 20:53 | i kept redoing everything and kept getting the same result | |
| 20:57 | slef | why does koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/imageloader/imageloader.js have a stack of NULs on its end? |
| 20:58 | * jcamins | would guess "by mistake" |
| 20:59 | * oleonard | would guess "YUI is out to get you" |
| 21:00 | slef | both of the above? |
| 21:02 | * oleonard | will be very glad when we are rid of it |
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| 21:07 | rangi | slef++ #for the test script |
| 21:07 | cait | slef++ :) |
| 21:09 | slef | do Needs Signoff bugs not get announced here any more or am I just being impatient? ;-) |
| 21:09 | bug 7476 | |
| 21:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7476 normal, P3, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Files executable that probably should not be |
| 21:10 | oleonard | Not since the latest bug status overhaul slef |
| 21:11 | cait | ah |
| 21:11 | slef | who used to? huginn`? |
| 21:11 | oleonard | Yes |
| 21:12 | slef | huginn`: where's your source code? |
| 21:12 | huginn` | slef: downloading the Perl source |
| 21:12 | cait | slef: the wiki knows :) |
| 21:12 | oleonard | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lars#Channel_Bots |
| 21:12 | cait | ^^ |
| 21:12 | oleonard | bots? |
| 21:12 | wahanui | bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 21:13 | slef | Ah, I was on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]stration#IRC_bot_.28huginn.29 |
| 21:13 | * slef | deduplicates |
| 21:15 | schuster | when I run git pull do I have to be in any particular branch when I do that? showing his stupidity still. |
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| 21:16 | rangi | yes |
| 21:16 | you have to be on the branch you want to merge into | |
| 21:16 | by default a git pull = git fetch + git merge | |
| 21:17 | schuster | so I should be in the master/origin branch when I pull to get all the new stuff? |
| 21:17 | librarygeekadam | does anyone have a good webpage on uploading marc records to koha? |
| 21:18 | cait | documentation? |
| 21:18 | wahanui | documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 21:18 | cait | librarygeekadam: there should be a description in the manual :) |
| 21:18 | schuster | good stuff there... |
| 21:18 | slef | schuster: probably. |
| 21:18 | librarygeekadam | thanks! |
| 21:18 | slef | bwahahaha http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]lars#Channel_Bots has no more info |
| 21:19 | I give up. | |
| 21:19 | schuster | ok thanks all... |
| 21:26 | slef | but then I can't talk because I've still not published the patches2bugs bot |
| 21:26 | cait | I think perhaps drop gmcharlt a short mail? |
| 21:26 | slef | yeah |
| 21:27 | rangi | meeting time, bbiab |
| 21:28 | oleonard | quitting time, back tomorrow. Or the next day. |
| 21:29 | cait | bye oleonard |
| 21:29 | slef | sent |
| 21:29 | ok, final mail check and I'm going to fall over too | |
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| 21:34 | jcamins | Pretty late in Konstanz, too, I think. |
| 21:34 | cait | heh |
| 21:34 | not that late! | |
| 21:36 | paul_p | patch pushed. Time to go to bed ;-) |
| 21:36 | bye #koha | |
| 21:39 | cait | night paul_p |
| 21:40 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]076ce2b7d4a9dd5d5> / Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b8f7e446ef80dc39c> / Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by d |
| 21:45 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #605 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 22:16 | magnuse | g'night #koha |
| 22:23 | eythian | hi |
| 22:23 | wahanui | hi, eythian |
| 22:25 | cait | morning eythian |
| 22:25 | good night #koha | |
| 22:25 | eythian | bye cait |
| 22:26 | cait left #koha | |
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| 22:35 | rangi | hi wizzyrea |
| 22:37 | hdl1 | bye |
| 22:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #605: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/605/ |
| 22:39 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7359 - Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace | |
| 22:39 | * christophe.croullebois: Bug 7350: In neworderempty.pl duplicating an item does not preserve select box selections | |
| 22:39 | * oleonard: Bug 3806 - Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly | |
| 22:39 | * ruth: Bug 7446: Redundant display of availablecount in results.tt in staff client. | |
| 22:39 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7359 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Begin migration to a new "Koha" namespace from the old "C4" namespace |
| 22:39 | jenkins_koha | * stephane.delaune: Bug 7460: Add template toolkit's FILTER html_line_break on opac details description's tab |
| 22:39 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7350 normal, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , In New order the "+" button duplicates input text but not the "selected" in ddl |
| 22:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3806 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly | |
| 22:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7446 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , Redundant display of availablecount in staff client (results.tt) | |
| 22:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7460 minor, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, ASSIGNED , nl2br in opac Title notes tab | |
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| 22:46 | Judit | morning |
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| 22:52 | wizzyrea | oh hello :) |
| 22:52 | wow | |
| 22:53 | that's what I get for not paying attention | |
| 22:54 | rangi | ? |
| 22:58 | wizzyrea | i miss my hellos :) |
| 22:59 | rangi | ahh |
| 22:59 | well check this out | |
| 22:59 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7327 | |
| 22:59 | huginn` | 04Bug 7327: normal, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, Needs Signoff , Translation script doesn't like concatenated javascript strings |
| 22:59 | rangi | :) |
| 22:59 | wizzyrea | oo |
| 23:00 | slef | is it public how much HLT raised last year when threatened? |
| 23:00 | rangi | yeah i think so |
| 23:00 | lemme look | |
| 23:00 | deadline is approaching fast so we should find out how that money was spent soon | |
| 23:01 | yup | |
| 23:01 | 12k | |
| 23:01 | http://koha-community.org/update-2/ | |
| 23:01 | slef | NZD? |
| 23:01 | rangi | afaik |
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| 23:03 | slef | thanks (I've another project saying, more-or-less, waah we have infringers extorting from us but there's no point in asking for money to fight it because no-one will give us money... so I'll point to HLT as a give-it-a-try counter-example) |
| 23:03 | rangi | cool |
| 23:03 | hope it helps | |
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| 23:25 | * wizzyrea | is installing the en-NZ translation now for testing that bug. Maybe I'll be plucky and install german too. |
| 23:27 | rangi | :) |
| 23:29 | slef | Koha hat deine Speisegericht gegessen. |
| 23:31 | wizzyrea | probably easier to spot mistranslations in german ;) |
| 23:31 | slef | hrm? |
| 23:33 | wizzyrea | nvm |
| 23:33 | not important | |
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| 23:50 | wizzyrea | hmm will have to ask kf about that tomorrow - I must be doing something wrong. |
| 23:51 | rangi | you probably have to recreate the .po file and translate the newly available translatable strings or something, but yeah id check with her |
| 23:51 | wizzyrea | hmmmm good pt |
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