IRC log for #koha, 2012-01-29

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00:31 cul_away Does anyone use ATOS for juvenile literature?
01:41 bag @wunder 93109
01:41 huginn` bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 14.8°C (5:41 PM PST on January 28, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Rising).
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09:23 francharb hi
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09:48 jransom does anyo
09:50 cait hi jransom :)
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12:54 Culiforge shouldn't I have a php.ini file somewhere?
12:56 jcamins_away Culiforge: not for Koha.
12:57 Koha is written in Perl.
12:57 Culiforge ok, why would my localhost access be so painfully slow. (i'm running koha on localhost atm)
12:58 jcamins_away Culiforge: too much other stuff running?
12:59 Culiforge I don't think so.. 10.04 ubuntu-desktop and what's needed to run koha along with firefox on a 3.2GHz intel proc
12:59 jcamins_away How much RAM?
13:00 Culiforge ~blush~ 512
13:00 should have 2G by midweek though (not that it helps now)
13:00 jcamins_away That's why.
13:01 FF will merrily eat up the entire 512.
13:01 Culiforge but all my regular web browsing is quite snappy
13:01 jcamins_away That's because FF isn't getting swapped out.
13:01 Just Koha.
13:03 Culiforge speaking of swap. I was just over on #ubuntu and was told that ubuntu really doesnt' like to use swap file.. as I watch my memory spike merrily while my swap sits at 12% like a lump
13:03 jcamins_away Yeah, that's correct.
13:04 However, it will swap eventually.
13:04 Culiforge just not much eh?
13:05 jcamins_away It will try not to, but FF is a RAM hog.
13:06 Culiforge some suggest chrome.. might there be anything else lightweight that I might use specifically for koha work?
13:06 jcamins_away I just opened up FF on my Mac and it is using over 200MB of RAM.
13:07 Culiforge at startup?
13:07 jcamins_away I'm not using FF. I just *opened* it.
13:07 Yup.
13:07 Culiforge man.. that's just wron
13:07 wrong
13:07 jcamins_away You'll see huge improvements when you put in 2GB.
13:09 Culiforge yeah, I noticed that on my wife's laptop... I ordered 2G and they sent it to me.. but they sent me sodimm.. luckily it fits nicely in the laptop so the $14 i spent on it isn't all lost
13:09 it would have cost me that just to send it back
13:11 does the Z39.5 lookup have issues with 13 digit isbn's or is that more of an "on the other end" problem?
13:11 jcamins_away It's probably a problem on the other end.
13:12 LC's Z39.50 server has issues with ISBN.
13:12 Or, rather, with the way Koha queries for ISBN.
13:12 Culiforge I see
13:14 is there a way to adjust how it searches.. ie. matching any instead of all search fields.. boolean if you will?
13:14 jcamins_away Not easily.
13:14 You'd have to hack the code a bit.
13:14 Well, a lot.
13:15 Culiforge ahhh, definitely not for me then
13:20 so do you pretty much stick to the LoC Z server for lookups then?
13:20 jcamins_away Me? No.
13:20 jcamins I use a lot of Z39.50 servers.
13:20 But I catalog very specialized collections.
13:20 Culiforge was it you who told me you go around setting up private libraries.. or was that someone else?
13:25 jcamins That was me.
13:25 cait hi Culiforge and jcamins :)
13:26 Culiforge hi cait
13:26 jcamins Good morning cait.
13:27 Culiforge so would there be a way to suppress the auto insertion of the isbn when I do Z lookups then?
13:27 cait more good afternoon )
13:27 @wunder Konstanz
13:28 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.2°C (2:24 PM CET on January 29, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022.2 hPa (Steady).
13:29 Culiforge @wunder 49037
13:29 huginn` Culiforge: The current temperature in Battle Creek, Michigan is -3.0°C (8:18 AM EST on January 29, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 4 PM EST this afternoon...
13:30 cait brr
13:30 jcamins Culiforge: auto-insertion of ISBNs?
13:30 Z39.50 lookups only use the ISBN if you enter it.
13:31 Culiforge when I open my marc record from the import... under the edit tab there is replace with Z record option that opens the Z search window and fills in the data you have
13:31 jcamins Ah.
13:32 I think you just have to remove that manually.
13:32 You could probably write some Javascript to remove the contents of the ISBN box, but you'd have to figure out how yourself.
13:34 Culiforge *jcamins pokes cul with a pointy stick because he knows he can't do that*  :)
13:35 jcamins Culiforge: I wasn't going to be quite that blunt. ;)
13:35 Culiforge It's alright, I'm a big boy I can take it. That and I'm generally good natured.
13:50 uh-oh.. something's not right... I should have about 20 items added but when I pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" nothing comes up
13:50 jcamins The Zebra server isn't running.
13:51 cait don't worry
13:51 we've all been there
13:53 Culiforge so why is it not starting at startup...
13:55 jcamins How did you install Koha? Packages?
13:57 Culiforge pfft.. from the deb pkg I think
13:57 jcamins Hm.
13:57 That's odd.
13:57 I've never had any problems with it not automatically starting.
14:15 Culiforge ok, I think I've got it started but I'm not sure
14:15 it won't let me rebuild the index
14:16 rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null is syntax right?
14:16 jcamins You should use the scripts provided by the package.
14:16 sudo koha-rebuild-zebra instancename
14:17 Culiforge where instance name is ?
14:17 jcamins The name of the instance you set up using the package.
14:17 You said you used the Debian packages to set up Koha, right?
14:17 Culiforge I believe so
14:17 jcamins You would've given it some sort of name.
14:18 Run sudo koha-list
14:19 Culiforge no output from command line, is that right?
14:19 sry on the rebuild command
14:20 jcamins There shouldn't be any output from the rebuild_zebra command.
14:21 Culiforge right, ok.. but still no search results.. so apparently I didn't get the zebra server running
14:21 jcamins Run ps aux | grep zebra
14:21 Culiforge gary      6115  0.0  0.1   3376   800 pts/0    S+   09:21   0:00 grep --color=auto zebra
14:22 jcamins Yeah, it's not running.
14:22 searching faq?
14:22 wahanui is still missing. :(
14:27 cait oh
14:27 perhaps we should mail gmcharlt again?
14:27 or is wahanui from rangi?
14:27 jcamins I'm not sure.
14:37 Culiforge ok, time for sunday chores and stuff.. bbl
14:54 cait jcamins++
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17:59 cait @wunder Konstanz
17:59 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.6°C (6:59 PM CET on January 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Steady).
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18:56 rangi morning
18:56 cait morning rangi :)
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20:30 * magnus_afk waves
20:30 cait heya magnus_afk
20:31 magnus_afk hiya cait
20:32 you upgraded customers to 3.6.3 on friday?
20:32 rangi hi magnus_afk
20:32 cait yes we did
20:32 magnus_afk all well?
20:32 kia ora rangi
20:33 cait yep all well so far
20:33 magnus_afk yay
20:33 i'm upgrading now
20:33 cait :)
20:35 magnus_afk or rather: watching the packages doing it for me ;-)
20:44 done
20:45 g'night #koha!
20:47 cait :)
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21:07 eythian hi
21:08 cait oh hi eythian
21:08 back?
21:10 eythian back-ish
21:10 hello wahanui
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21:11 cait wahanui botsnack cookie
21:11 wahanui thanks cait :)
21:11 cait :)
21:31 chris_n has anyone had any success using distro upgrades rather than fresh installs when moving to the latest distro?
21:35 rangi of ubuntu or debian?
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21:37 eythian I've had pretty good luck with both.
21:37 rangi yeah debian usually just works
21:37 lucid to maverick went bad, but the rest of ubuntu seemed ok
21:51 chris_n ubuntu
21:51 * chris_n just did it, and is rebooting... so we'll see :)
21:54 chris_n well, the system rebooted ok
21:54 that's nice since its a 15 min trip to do it manually
21:57 * chris_n upgraded to natty
22:13 chris_n things appear good... guess we'll see how the nightly backup runs
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22:55 eythian @karma C
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22:55 huginn` eythian: Karma for "C" has been increased 10 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 10.
22:57 bag @wunder 93109
22:57 huginn` bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 24.1°C (2:57 PM PST on January 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady).
22:58 bag it's been a hot winter here so far
22:58 @wunder wellington nz
22:58 huginn` bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 30, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
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