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00:49 | Culiforge | when I installed Koha, it setup all these sample libraries and patrons... I thought I selected not to but there they are... is there a way to remove them bulk style or am I left to browse through the alpha listings one by one for them? |
00:51 | mtj | Culiforge: you can always delete anything bulk-style via SQL |
00:52 | Culiforge | I'm not very nimble with sql... :( |
00:53 | right now I can't even find how to delete one by one.. | |
00:54 | mtj | > delete from borrowers where borrowernumber = '777'; |
00:54 | > delete from borrowers; | |
00:55 | see, it's not so hard ;) | |
00:57 | Culiforge | hmm, tells me no database selected |
00:58 | list databases; tells me I have an error in my syntax | |
00:58 | mtj | > use yourdatabasename; |
01:00 | Culiforge | hmm not remembering the name.. that's why I try list databases; tells me syntax error... |
01:02 | mtj | > show databases; |
01:05 | ... bbiab | |
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02:04 | Culiforge | mtj: sry, had to step away... wife came home and got in an accident in the mall parking lot.. minor emergency |
02:21 | currently running koha on localhost.. could anyone speculate as to why it runs so slow.. my regular internet browsing is faster than what koha is running.. | |
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02:26 | druthb | o/ |
02:26 | rangi | hi druthb |
02:27 | druthb | :D Hi, rangi. :) |
02:28 | @seen jcamins | |
02:28 | huginn` | druthb: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 day, 5 hours, 30 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: * jcamins heads to Forest Hills to fill up a suitcase and head back into the city to catch a bus to the suburbs. |
02:29 | druthb | I'm off for the night...just wanted to pop in and see who was about. be well! |
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03:29 | AmitG | heya bag |
03:29 | Good morning #koha :D | |
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03:32 | * kmkale | is installing Koha on a kvm virtual machine |
03:33 | AmitG | heya kmkale |
03:33 | kmkale | Namaste AmitG |
03:34 | AmitG | kmkale what do you think india save the match? |
03:34 | kmkale | No way in hell ! |
03:34 | AmitG | hmm |
04:10 | bag | yo AmitG |
04:11 | yo kmkale | |
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04:47 | kmkale | Namaste bag |
04:47 | never realized I had got disconnected ;) | |
04:47 | bag | heya kmkale |
04:47 | heh | |
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05:14 | cait___ | hi #koha |
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06:09 | francharb | hi |
06:10 | cait | hi francharb |
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07:17 | alex_a | morning #koha |
07:18 | cait | morning alex_a :) |
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07:22 | cait | hm |
07:23 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
07:35 | cait | good morning magnuse :) |
07:38 | magnuse | hiya cait |
07:39 | cait | heya |
07:41 | it rains | |
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07:41 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
07:41 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7°C (8:40 AM CET on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady). |
07:41 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
07:41 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
07:41 | reiveune | hello |
07:41 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
07:41 | reiveune | :) |
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07:53 | cait | hi reiveune and hdl |
07:53 | bbiab | |
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07:54 | hdl | hi |
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07:56 | magnuse | hiya hdl mbalmer cait___ |
07:57 | * magnuse | plans to look at bug 6440 today |
07:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets |
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08:03 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:04 | magnuse | bonjour gaetan_B |
08:05 | hdl | magnuse: great. |
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08:07 | asaurat | hi!! |
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08:08 | julian_m | hello |
08:14 | ktk | we have not been able to search our serials in opac. we just upgraded from 3.2.10-3.04-06 and then to 3.6.3. We can see all titles in reports but it is not searching in OPAC how to make these serials visible in OPAC |
08:17 | paul_p_ | good morning #koha |
08:20 | magnuse | ktk: is it just serials you can't search? does it work for other things? |
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08:23 | kf | hi 'koha |
08:25 | ktk | yes it works for other things |
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08:26 | kf | hi sophie_m |
08:27 | sophie_m | Guten Morgen kf :-) |
08:27 | kf | :) |
08:29 | asaurat | hi kf! |
08:29 | kf | hi asaurat :) |
08:36 | magnuse | ktk: did it work before you upgraded from 3.2? |
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08:39 | ktk | yes it was working |
08:39 | magnuse | hm, that's weird |
08:40 | ktk | i checked the database in phpmyadmin and it shows records and i can see biblionumber, biblioitem, barcode |
08:41 | magnuse | and the serials have dissappeared completely? no sign of them when you search? |
08:41 | ktk | if i try to search in kohaadmin for either by biblionumber or title it does not work |
08:41 | but i can see these records in phpmyadmin | |
08:45 | magnuse | just to be sure: when you search do you get any hits on serials at all? or have they dissapeared completely? |
08:45 | or can you see the records and not the issues? | |
08:45 | kf | and where are you searching? |
08:46 | opac/staff | |
08:46 | which search option? | |
08:46 | ktk | if we search in opac with title no results |
08:46 | kf | hm |
08:46 | did you suppress records? | |
08:46 | ktk | or if we search in kohaadmin with either title, biblionumber,barcode no results |
08:47 | no hw does that happen | |
08:47 | kf | hm you should still be able to find them |
08:47 | in staff | |
08:48 | ktk | hw to unsupress and check if they are suppressed |
08:48 | magnuse | there is a syspref called "OpacSuppression" - what is that set to? |
08:49 | kf | ktk: how did you add the serial records? was there anything different in the workflow than for other records? |
08:59 | ktk | i dont see supress link in sys pref |
09:00 | magnuse | try searching for OpacSuppression in the sysprefs |
09:01 | ktk | found and it is set to "dont hide" |
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09:04 | magnuse | ktk: ok, we can rule that out then |
09:04 | ktk: how about kf's other question: "how did you add the serial records? was there anything different in the workflow than for other records?" | |
09:05 | ktk | no i dont think so no different in the workflow |
09:05 | magnuse | did you run the script to remove items from the records when you upgraded to 3.4? |
09:05 | ktk | but my question is when i can see records in database through phpmyadmin with itemnumber, biblionumber, barcode, title what is wrong |
09:06 | magnuse | yeah, that's what we are trying to figure out :-) |
09:06 | ktk | no i did not run any script i just ran three commands perl Makefile.PL, make and make upgrade |
09:06 | kf | are you using zebra? |
09:06 | ktk | yes |
09:06 | kf | ah |
09:06 | then this might be the problem | |
09:06 | ktk | it is running |
09:06 | kf | there was a major change between those versions and you have to run a script |
09:06 | ktk | oh which script |
09:07 | rangi | its in the INSTALL file, in the upgrade section |
09:08 | ktk | is it in install_misc |
09:09 | magnuse | see line 341 etc here: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bian;hb=HEAD#l341 |
09:09 | misc/maintenance/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl | |
09:10 | AmitG | heya magnuse, ktk, rangi |
09:10 | ktk | now i have already skipped this and have new koha running can i only run the above script |
09:10 | magnuse | namaste AmitG |
09:10 | rangi | heya AmitG |
09:11 | kf | hi AmitG |
09:11 | rangi | ktk: have to rebuild zebra after too |
09:11 | ktk | ok that is fine |
09:32 | * kmkale | has a working kvm based Koha VM image in case someone is interested |
09:35 | kf | hm ok |
09:36 | anyone an idea why a search for missae will find missa with fuzzy and everything else turned off? | |
09:37 | hdl | it is fuzzy :D |
09:37 | kf | the fuzzy switch broken? |
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09:40 | kf | hdl: fuzzy is off :( |
09:51 | magnuse | kf: you're sure missa isn't mentioned somewhere in the record? |
09:51 | gaetan_B | kf: just in case, we noticed that in 3.6, in the french translation, the values are inverted for quite a few sysprefs ("activated" read "désactivée" in french!) it was the case for fuzzy search, which was then on when it should have been off... |
09:53 | kf | magnuse: missae isn't mentioned in the record |
09:53 | gaetan_B: this is a 3.2.2... so perhaps even more likely to have some bugs | |
09:54 | I am looking at english interface... will try to toggle them and test again, thx! | |
09:55 | the trucate is off | |
09:55 | it's something about ae | |
09:55 | because miss = finds nothing | |
09:55 | * magnuse | was just thinking that |
09:55 | kf | but missa and missae both work |
09:55 | I checked the mapping file, but it seems ok to me | |
09:56 | magnuse | if there is a mapping from æ to ae... |
09:56 | kf | hm? |
09:56 | magnuse | and æ to a, or something |
09:56 | kf | oh |
09:56 | circular | |
09:56 | magnuse | which file is the mapping file again? |
09:56 | * magnuse | is just guessing |
09:56 | kf | /koha-dev/etc/zebradb/etc |
09:56 | word-phrase... | |
10:00 | magnuse | what happens if you search for missæ? |
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10:01 | kf | ?? |
10:01 | magnuse | hm, that might not display properly? |
10:01 | kf | nope |
10:02 | æ | |
10:02 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 109.189.10.165 pasted "missæ" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/229 |
10:02 | kf | missæ |
10:02 | AmitG_ | heya gaetan_B |
10:02 | kf | doesn't find the record |
10:02 | magnuse | what you just typed looked good :-) |
10:02 | oh | |
10:02 | gaetan_B | hi AmitG :) |
10:02 | kf | so it ignores the e? |
10:02 | stemming? | |
10:03 | magnuse | yeah, could be that, but that's off to, right? |
10:03 | kf | yep |
10:04 | this is really weird | |
10:06 | hdl | kf truncation ? |
10:06 | kf | off |
10:06 | and miss doesn't find anything | |
10:06 | which is right | |
10:06 | but missae does... | |
10:06 | only it's only missa in the record | |
10:07 | magnuse | hm, i'm looking at http://git.koha-community.org/[…]637f4a5e4047e3e82 |
10:07 | it has | |
10:07 | 16 equivalent ӕä(ae) | |
10:07 | 45 map ä a | |
10:07 | 60 map ӕ (ae) | |
10:07 | kf | oh |
10:08 | magnuse | 45 map ä a |
10:08 | kf | and ä = a |
10:08 | that's a bad idea then | |
10:08 | magnuse | could it be that ae is taken as equvalent to ä which is mapped to a? |
10:08 | kf | yeah I think so |
10:09 | magnuse | might be a bad idea to say that ä and (ae) are equvalent, then? |
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10:24 | ktk | hi magnuse i tried running the script in misc/remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl --run and reindexed data but no lunk |
10:24 | no luck still records are not available from OPAC for serials | |
10:25 | magnuse | ktk: hm, i'm running out of ideas, then |
10:26 | ktk | BTW when i searched in advance search and selected Periodical/Serial without mentioning any specific name i get results |
10:26 | but if i try searching by either barcode, title no results | |
10:27 | sorry it did not show all serials | |
10:27 | i was wrong i am getting some 8 serial details only | |
10:27 | magnuse | what happens if you search for one of those 8 titles? |
10:29 | ktk | those 8 record are searchable in OPAC |
10:29 | what is going wrong with my rest of the records of serials | |
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10:31 | magnuse | well, what i think you need to do is take a good, long look at those 8 records that work and some of those that do not work and try to figure out how they are different |
10:32 | ktk | those which are not searchable i can see them only from phpMyAdmin by browsing biblio |
10:32 | can i make any global change in database | |
10:32 | but i dont knw what to be done | |
10:33 | magnuse | yeah, you need to figure out what makes those 8 that work different from the ones that do not work |
10:33 | is there some data in some field that is missing from the ones that do not work? | |
10:33 | were they added to koha in some special way | |
10:33 | were they added before or after the other ones? | |
10:33 | etc | |
10:33 | ktk | we downloaded from Library of Congress |
10:34 | each serial and then added items to each serial with bound volume number and year | |
10:36 | magnuse | same process for all of them, both the ones that work and the ones that do not work? |
10:36 | asaurat | magnuse: so, in your etc/zebradb/etc/defaults.idx you have a line like "charmap word-phrase-utf.chr" ? |
10:36 | magnuse | asaurat: better ask kf that, i think - i was just looking at the files in git, not a real installation |
10:37 | kf | asaurat: sorry afk right now, will be back a bit later |
10:37 | asaurat | ok but I wonder if this mapping is used if you don't have this line in defaults.idx |
10:37 | kf | fighting with booking train tickets to marseille... |
10:37 | asaurat | ok =) |
10:38 | sophie_m | kf : you must win :-) |
10:38 | kf | :) |
10:39 | :) | |
10:39 | trying | |
10:43 | asaurat: but I think it is used - for marc21 at least. there is a bug adding new diacritics to it | |
10:45 | asaurat | maybe... I'm struggling with a problem like this too... a search for "grèce" which gives no result, when it works with "grece" (in DB the accent is present!) |
10:47 | kf | search bugzilla for diacricits |
10:47 | there is an open bug report for adding diacricits to the file | |
10:47 | you can also make it work by using icu | |
10:47 | 2 options | |
10:50 | asaurat | we are already using icu actually |
10:51 | it works with some customers, but not for everyone o_o | |
10:51 | kf | oh |
10:51 | if you use icu | |
10:51 | the file will not be used | |
10:51 | you have to check your icu chains then or however they are called | |
10:51 | we use icu for one library - and I think it works nicely | |
10:51 | asaurat | bug 2629 seems interesting |
10:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, ago, Pushed to Master , Diacritics not being ignored when searching |
10:52 | kf | yes |
10:52 | but that's for when you are not using icu | |
10:52 | asaurat | yep, just for a comment |
10:52 | kf | there is an icu patch from frederic waiting for sign-off |
10:52 | asaurat | I don't have lines like <transliterate rule="æ > ae"/> |
10:52 | kf | you don't need to |
10:52 | there is a general rule for all diacricitcs | |
10:52 | asaurat | ok |
10:53 | kf | or not sur about ae but for other things |
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11:13 | asaurat | well, the "yaz-icu" package was missing, we installed it and will try after the next zebra rebuild |
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11:25 | * paul_p | ending the morning pushing some patches to koha... |
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11:30 | Culiforge | Z39 search does not seem to be working correctly.. do I need to open ports for each Z server on my router? |
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11:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #603 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #601 3 j 16 h ago) |
11:49 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7367' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]305d4d9d65423db35> / 7367 Removing reintroduced debugging statement from Auth.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9f958ba981a036031> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7439' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha. |
11:51 | kf | zürich - marseille trains booked - now only missing the last little step, but should be ok :) |
11:56 | sophie_m: I won :) | |
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12:34 | chris_n | everybody quitting |
12:34 | ? | |
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12:35 | drojf1 | chris_n: netsplit |
12:35 | * chris_n | was just being facetious :-) |
12:35 | drojf1 | they are still connected somewhere, but the servers don't see each other |
12:35 | ok | |
12:35 | :D | |
12:35 | kf | hi chris_n |
12:35 | and thx for the release :) | |
12:35 | chris_n | heaya kf |
12:35 | yw | |
12:35 | kf | 25 minutes until we start updating ;) |
12:36 | chris_n | nice |
12:38 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #603: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/603/ |
12:39 | * julian.maurice: Bug 6836: Add jQuery dataTables plugin | |
12:39 | * oleonard: Bug 6836: followup CSS work | |
12:39 | * julian.maurice: Bug 6836: test case readingrec.pl | |
12:39 | * Chris Cormack: Updating perlcriticrc to allow Modern::Perl to suffice instead of use warnings; and use strict; | |
12:39 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6836: Adding dependency on Modern::Perl | |
12:39 | * jcamins: Bug 1633 follow-up: Fix jenkins tests | |
12:39 | * paul.poulain: Bug 1633, follow-up, french string | |
12:39 | * colin.campbell: Bug 6752: Be stricter with utf-8 encoding of output | |
12:39 | * lrea: Bug 7157 - Improve the j2a.pl cronjob | |
12:39 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7157 follow-up: j2a.pl executable again | |
12:39 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7157 follow-up: j2a.pl executable again | |
12:39 | * m.de.rooy: 7439 Mailmap for master | |
12:39 | * m.de.rooy: 7367 Removing reintroduced debugging statement from Auth.pm | |
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12:59 | paul_p | jenkins should be back to stable in a few minuts... |
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13:00 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #604 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #601 3 j 17 h ago) |
13:00 | kf | paul_p++ :) |
13:01 | paul_p | now switching to mode "writing RM monthly newsletter #3" |
13:01 | (lot of new things to talk about !!! | |
13:01 | ) | |
13:02 | kf | :) |
13:02 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6836' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f913c76dca4b53a1f> / Bug 6836 follow-up fixing POD <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]781102054b2a4e716> |
13:02 | kf | late order management und local cover images are nice |
13:02 | we are updating to 3.6.x today and I already want 3.8 | |
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13:06 | kf | oh wb sophie_m |
13:07 | sophie_m | :-) |
13:08 | kf | sophie_m: all tickets booked :) |
13:08 | sophie_m | yes ! |
13:10 | we are very happy that you are coming again | |
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13:27 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
13:36 | kf | hi oleonard .) |
13:36 | * oleonard | offers kf an eye patch |
13:36 | kf | I did 2 follow-ups for 7113... could you perhaps take a look? |
13:36 | * kf | blames her german keyboard |
13:37 | kf | oleonard: another solution for the second patch could be to change the sub in C4:Acquisition - but I was not sure if that was a good idea |
13:38 | oleonard | I'll take a look a little later |
13:38 | * oleonard | is working again on Bug 3806 |
13:38 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3806 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Holidays table doesn't order by date correcly |
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13:42 | kf | oleonard: cool no hurry :) |
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13:54 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
13:54 | Project Koha_master build #604: FIXED in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/604/ | |
13:54 | paul.poulain: Bug 6836 follow-up fixing POD | |
13:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6836 enhancement, P2, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , jQuery plugin Datatables integration http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]/DataTables_HowTo |
13:55 | * oleonard | shakes jenkins_koha's hand excitedly |
13:56 | magnus_afk | woohoo! |
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14:07 | kf | chris_n: I think we forgot something - the database update to make it 3.6.3 |
14:07 | chris_n | kf... ouch |
14:08 | you are right | |
14:08 | kf | I didn't notice earlier |
14:08 | chris_n | I'll fix it now and push up new tarballs |
14:08 | just another thing to add to the pile of embarrassing mistakes this week :-( | |
14:09 | paul_p | yes ! jenkins is happy ! |
14:10 | magnus_afk | chris_n++ |
14:12 | * chris_n | will add some code to his release roll script to check the version number to be sure this does not happen again |
14:13 | kf | chris_n++ |
14:13 | no big mistake | |
14:13 | don't worry about it | |
14:15 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #74 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 3 mo. 20 j ago) |
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14:15 | chris_n | ok, fix pushed, rolling new tarballs |
14:16 | kf | very cool |
14:16 | chris_n | kf: glad you caught it... I was about to do the same thing with 3.4.x :P |
14:17 | done | |
14:18 | though it should not cause functional problems during the upgrade if one used the first tarball... only the version number would be wrong which would be fixed on the next upgrade | |
14:18 | now for 3.4.8 | |
14:19 | kf | chris_n: I know - uli has already done all 5 updates |
14:19 | found it when I was testing :) | |
14:21 | chris_n | 3.4.8 is up |
14:22 | oleonard: help... what's screwed up here: http://download.koha-community.org/ | |
14:23 | http://paste.koha-community.or[…]bmit=Format+it%21 | |
14:25 | oleonard | Sorry chris_n, what? |
14:26 | chris_n | can you spot what is messed up with the download page there? |
14:26 | or is it just my browser? | |
14:27 | the section above the directory listing looks skewed | |
14:27 | oleonard | It doesn't look broken to me, but I don't know what it usually looks like |
14:27 | * oleonard | prepares a screenshot |
14:27 | kf | looks ok to me |
14:28 | oleonard | http://screencast.com/t/PuK5Xqa8tkt3 |
14:28 | * chris_n | gets the feeling its just another part of this week :) |
14:29 | chris_n | yup, its just messed up here |
14:29 | but that's par for course for the week | |
14:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #33 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
14:33 | chris_n | ok, happy upgrading #koha |
14:33 | trea | chris_n++ |
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14:36 | kf | chris_n++ |
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15:08 | kf | oleonard: around? |
15:08 | oleonard | Yes |
15:08 | kf | oh |
15:09 | if I switch the language to german something weird happens with the footer - and I just don't spot the difference to the other languages | |
15:10 | oleonard | I can't see any difference on the main page |
15:11 | kf | it breaks after each language for me |
15:11 | when I select German as language | |
15:12 | oh I think I found it | |
15:12 | custom css | |
15:13 | oleonard: which makes me think - why did it only break de? and for you it didn't - browser detection? thx for taking a look! :) | |
15:13 | paul_p | OK RM monthly newsletter #3 sent, I must leave now, some family things... see you on monday #koha ! |
15:13 | kf | have a nice weekend paul_p |
15:14 | oleonard: plus opacusercss influences staff and opac apparently | |
15:14 | hm. | |
15:14 | oleonard | ?! |
15:14 | kf | yep |
15:14 | I deleted one css line from opacusercss and it changed in staff and opac | |
15:16 | oleonard | I don't find it to be the case |
15:16 | kf | I have no idea :( |
15:16 | why it happens I mean | |
15:16 | I will do more tests | |
15:21 | oleonard: sorry for causing confusion - this is weird and not related to the css entry I found - so ignore what I said about opacusercss. | |
15:21 | * kf | goes back to testing |
15:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #74: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 10 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/74/ |
15:26 | * f.demians: Koha 3.4.8 Translations Update | |
15:26 | * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.08.000 27 Jan 2012 14:02:53 Z | |
15:26 | * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.08.000 | |
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15:26 | * wizzyrea | waves |
15:27 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
15:32 | kf | hi wizzyrea |
15:32 | oleonard | kf, I'm glad you worked on lateorders.tt. Thanks. |
15:32 | kf | I did a lot of testing on this - I think I would have thought it was intended behaviour if not for that |
15:33 | oleonard | How exactly does an order become late? I don't have the right data to test with. |
15:34 | kf | ah |
15:34 | you have to | |
15:34 | close the basket | |
15:34 | that's an important bit | |
15:34 | and | |
15:35 | entrydate must be in the past | |
15:35 | and I think maybe the timestamp or another field too | |
15:36 | if you have some unreceived ordres not from today, it should be enough to close the basket | |
15:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #33: SUCCESS in 1 h 10 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/33/ |
15:40 | chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.06.03.000 | |
15:48 | * oleonard | 's lateorders.pl was broken because he missed a database update |
15:49 | kf | oh! |
15:49 | and ie decided to make one of my opacs blue instead of yellow | |
15:49 | ie-- | |
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16:03 | wizzyrea | ie-- |
16:03 | stupid IE | |
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16:04 | asaurat | hmm... blue AND yellow would be perfect =) |
16:04 | http://lesitemac.free.fr/telec[…]media/Amstrad.gif | |
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16:07 | * magnus_afk | wonders briefly if it would hurt to put the "rm newsletter" on http://koha-community.org/ and wanders off to make pizza |
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16:10 | asaurat | bye ! |
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16:14 | * chris_n | gives IE a kick as he heads out |
16:29 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
16:29 | (barely) | |
16:35 | reiveune | bye |
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16:37 | kf | hi jcamins :) |
16:38 | jcamins | Hello. |
16:38 | How's your upgrade going? | |
16:39 | kf | almost done |
16:39 | some css pain | |
16:39 | and missing images | |
16:39 | :) | |
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16:50 | jcamins | And you're already coveting 3.8! :) |
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17:02 | kf | coveting? |
17:03 | jcamins | Wanting for all the neat new features. :) |
17:03 | kf | oh always |
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17:22 | Culiforge | Is there a method in the staff client for viewing all records? |
17:22 | oleonard | I suppose if all your records had an itemtype or ccode you could select all itemtypes/ccodes in the advanced search? |
17:23 | It's a surprisingly common request Culiforge, but no one has ever made a specific tool for doing so | |
17:23 | jcamins | Culiforge: enter this into the search box: pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 "" |
17:23 | * oleonard | doesn't understand the need |
17:25 | oleonard | jcamins++ # It works! |
17:25 | Culiforge | oleonard: currently learning my way around and only have about 100 records currently. I just feel I need some sort of visual at the moment |
17:27 | jcamins | oleonard: paul_p introduced me to the _ALLRECORDS recordset. |
17:28 | Culiforge | That and it seems there should be an easier way to put imports into circulation other than one by one.. (or am I completely missing something?) |
17:28 | oleonard | "imports into circulation" ? |
17:29 | Culiforge | when I import a marc file... I have to go back one by one and say "yes, I have (1) of those or (2) of those etc |
17:30 | otherwise they don't show up in opac | |
17:30 | or maybe I'm doing something completely daft | |
17:30 | jcamins | Culiforge: how on earth could Koha know how many copies of a given book you have without you entering that information in? |
17:31 | Culiforge: if you have a data file with that information, put the information into 952 fields. | |
17:31 | If you don't have all that information already in electronic format, there's no way around it. | |
17:32 | Culiforge | jcamins: I completely understand that, I was simply expecting some sort of populate feature. .... that's the info I needed.. the 952 field |
17:32 | jcamins | Culiforge: I don't really see how one could have a general-purpose 952-populator. |
17:32 | Culiforge | !facepalm! |
17:33 | Like I said, I'm learning my way around | |
17:33 | jcamins | It'll all make perfect sense in no time. :) |
17:35 | Culiforge | unfortunately I'm used to csv and such. I was aware of Marc just not aware of the depth and intricacies.. and power |
17:35 | jcamins | Culiforge: ah, that'll be because you don't know... |
17:35 | @quote get 123 | |
17:35 | huginn` | jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
17:35 | francharb | hi all |
17:36 | i've got a question | |
17:36 | 'im reading the documentation | |
17:36 | and there is something that sounds weird to me | |
17:36 | jcamins | francharb: ... as a bit of light reading before bed? :P |
17:36 | Isn't it late there? | |
17:36 | Culiforge | jcamins: rangi++ I love it |
17:36 | kf | 18:36 ;) |
17:36 | francharb | humm |
17:36 | 6:30 pm | |
17:36 | jcamins | Okay, not that late. |
17:36 | francharb | not that late |
17:36 | ;) | |
17:36 | anyway | |
17:37 | ;) | |
17:37 | jcamins | Anyway, what sounds weird? |
17:37 | francharb | the documentation says that |
17:37 | kf | bye all and nice weekend :) |
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17:37 | francharb | HomeOrHoldingBranch : This preference does nothing unless the IndependantBranches preference is set to 'Prevent'. |
17:37 | jcamins | That doesn't sound right. |
17:38 | francharb | ok |
17:38 | jcamins | I'm pretty sure that HomeOrHoldingBranch impacts circulation no matter what. |
17:38 | francharb | because, i was wondering how it works if circontrol is on 'the library the item is from' |
17:39 | how does koha know if he has to use the homebranch or the holdingbranch | |
17:39 | i always assumed the homeorholdingbranch syspref was here for that | |
17:39 | ok thanks jcamins! | |
17:40 | i will drop an email to nengard | |
17:40 | jcamins | francharb: CircControl *should* determine that, but I don't HomeOrHolding is entirely deprecated. |
17:40 | You should trace out the code, though, just in case someone finally fixed that. | |
17:41 | In principle, CircControl = the library the item from == HomeOrHoldingBranch = the library the item is from | |
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17:41 | francharb | i will chech this out with one of our techies |
17:41 | jcamins | And CircControl = the library you are logged in at == HomeOrHoldingBranch = the library the item was checked out from. |
17:42 | francharb | jcamins, that what I think too |
17:42 | jcamins | But as far as I know, what I just described isn't true. :( |
17:42 | francharb | arrf |
17:42 | jcamins | I hope you find out that I'm wrong, and that *is* how it works. |
17:43 | francharb | looks like everybody left biblibre office! i will ask them on monday and i let you know! |
17:44 | jcamins | :) |
17:44 | Have a good weekend, francharb. | |
17:44 | francharb | thanks! i'm going to work a little bit more though |
17:44 | ;) | |
17:44 | have a nice weekend too | |
17:45 | * jcamins | isn't going anywhere for a few more hours. |
17:48 | Culiforge | correct me if i misunderstand this: there are no administrative tasks within the opac, they're all controlled from the staff interface. |
17:48 | jcamins | Culiforge: that is correct. |
17:49 | Culiforge | sweet. I'm getting somewhere.. I hate to come back with dumb questions because I made a bad assumption |
17:50 | francharb | there are no dumb questions! |
17:50 | ;) | |
17:50 | jcamins | francharb: are you sure? |
17:50 | ^^ bwahahaha!!! There was a dumb question! | |
17:51 | francharb | i guess |
17:51 | jcamins | :) |
17:51 | francharb | if your question concern koha at least |
17:51 | ;) | |
17:52 | Culiforge | yeah but it's usually because I missed something glaring in the documentation |
17:52 | jcamins | Wasn't there a patch to add relator codes to the authorized values? |
17:53 | francharb | Culiforge, ok but it happens... ;) |
17:53 | jcamins | Ah, yes, it's marked failed qa. |
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18:08 | * jcamins | tosses cait the duct tape. |
18:08 | cait | thx :) |
18:09 | changed from phone to laptop | |
18:09 | should be stable now :) | |
18:09 | jcamins | :) |
18:10 | francharb | phone? |
18:10 | what irc app do you use? | |
18:10 | iphone? android? | |
18:13 | cait | meego |
18:14 | I am using communi but looking for something better | |
18:16 | francharb | oki |
18:17 | cait | I got it last weekend - still testing and figuring out things |
18:17 | francharb | i'm waiting to see how this works : http://event.asus.com/mobile/padfone/ |
18:18 | i may switch to this one if the rewiews are good | |
18:23 | cait | :) |
18:23 | bbiab | |
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18:26 | Culiforge | is there an irc for marcedit? can't seem to find one |
18:27 | jcamins | Culiforge: probably not. |
18:28 | francharb | Culiforge, ask druthd, she's real good with marcedit |
18:28 | jcamins | francharb: I don't think druthb uses marcedit. Mostly home-grown scripts. |
18:28 | francharb | jcamins, well she teached me how to use it |
18:29 | so i guess she knows a little bit ;) | |
18:29 | jcamins | francharb: huh! I didn't know that. |
18:29 | francharb | ;) |
18:30 | * francharb | need a break! |
18:30 | francharb | see ya everyone! |
18:31 | Culiforge | tc |
18:36 | so I'm reading about mono and what it's supposed to do to allow me to install marcedit. it unwraps the exe and recompiles the code to run on linux.. is that right? | |
18:39 | jcamins | Culiforge: I'm not 100% sure, but something like that. |
18:40 | Culiforge | no wonder it's controversial |
18:45 | ***runnin away for now | |
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19:07 | oleonard | Where's the "Koha on Windows" autoresponder when we need one? |
19:09 | maximep | i'm not sure how to set up a virtual host in Apache :S |
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19:10 | maximep | random question I always wanted to know the answer. Why does searching $b return all results ? |
19:10 | jcamins | $b? |
19:10 | * jcamins | never tried. |
19:10 | jcamins | One moment while I do so. |
19:11 | maximep | it seems to work on half of my koha installs :S |
19:11 | oleonard | For me it returns *almost* all records |
19:11 | jcamins | Interesting. |
19:11 | maximep | hmmmm on one of my installs it returns "b" |
19:11 | the same results | |
19:12 | unless it was 3.2 only | |
19:12 | jcamins | It returns all records for me. |
19:14 | maximep | it returns nothing on some installs :S |
19:15 | jcamins | Very weird. |
19:15 | maximep | with the same database. A real mistery :S |
19:15 | jcamins | ICU? |
19:15 | maximep | must have a config somewhere that differs, but never found it |
19:17 | * jcamins | responded. |
19:18 | maximep | and then on https://lionelgroulx.koha.ccsr.qc.ca $b has 1500 results and a has 28788. /me is confused |
19:18 | what's ICU ? | |
19:18 | jcamins | An option for configuring Zebra. |
19:18 | maximep: wow! | |
19:18 | That's gorgeous! | |
19:19 | You should share the CSS. | |
19:19 | maximep | well it's the web, anyone has access to it =) |
19:19 | jcamins | And the course reserves code! |
19:19 | maximep | aaaaaaaaah I wish I could share that one |
19:19 | my first koha page | |
19:20 | jcamins | maximep: well, yeah, anyone can get the CSS. I meant, you should publicize that. It's awesome! |
19:20 | maximep | well there's also template changes to do it :/ |
19:21 | jcamins | You should share that too, then. |
19:23 | maximep | our 3.2 version looked like this https://soreltracy.koha.ccsr.q[…]ch.pl?q=test&idx= , but we kept it simpler for 3.6 |
19:24 | when we had to basically redo it from scratch | |
19:24 | jcamins | Wow, that's even prettier. |
19:24 | You should get your changes into Koha proper so you don't have to rebase. | |
19:25 | maximep | yeah but it's full of jqtransform bullshit that isn't accessible |
19:25 | jcamins | Oh, hm. |
19:25 | That's a disadvantage. | |
19:25 | Well, is there any way to pull that out of the templates? | |
19:25 | So that the template changes are just adding IDs, etc.? | |
19:25 | maximep | probably |
19:26 | jcamins | You should do that. |
19:26 | Then put the jQuery on the wiki so I can crib from it. ;) | |
19:26 | maximep | trust me, I wish we could and had time to share all this |
19:26 | jcamins | Oh, you have a contract that doesn't allow you to open source it? Ugh. |
19:26 | maximep | were supposed to be able to do it in a few months |
19:27 | jcamins | Yay! |
19:37 | oleonard | Okay, this enhancement just needs one... more... thing... Aaaaaand..... Oh, now it's broken. |
19:37 | jcamins | oleonard: lol. What are you working on? |
19:37 | oleonard | Bug 3215 |
19:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart" |
19:38 | jcamins | Ah. |
19:38 | That's a good one. | |
19:39 | oleonard | One thing was broken before lunch, now two are. Who came in during lunch and broke the second thing? |
19:42 | * jcamins | didn't. |
19:47 | jcamins | You know, it's really depressing the way it's dark at 2:45. |
19:50 | maximep | @wunder YUL |
19:50 | huginn` | maximep: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 0.0°C (2:48 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: (Falling). |
19:50 | maximep | heavy snow all day here |
19:50 | jcamins | Just raining here. |
19:50 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
19:50 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 2.0°C (2:50 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Steady). |
19:50 | maximep | never found how to get the weather for quebec city with that bot |
19:50 | @wunder quebec city | |
19:50 | huginn` | maximep: Error: No such location could be found. |
19:50 | maximep | @wunder quebec |
19:51 | huginn` | maximep: Error: No such location could be found. |
19:51 | maximep | @wunder yqc |
19:51 | huginn` | maximep: The current temperature in Aupaluk, Quebec is -29.0°C (1:00 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -32.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
19:51 | maximep | aupaluk ?!?! |
19:51 | jcamins | @wunder cyqb |
19:51 | huginn` | jcamins: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -5.0°C (2:22 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: (Falling). |
19:51 | maximep | wow. |
19:52 | oleonard | @wunder cyqb |
19:52 | maximep | of course u found it in 30 secs |
19:52 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -5.0°C (2:22 PM EST on January 27, 2012). Conditions: Light Ice Pellets. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: (Falling). |
19:52 | oleonard | Damn, and I took 32! |
19:53 | maximep: I looked it up on http://www.wunderground.com, which provides the info to the bot | |
19:53 | jcamins | As did I. |
19:53 | maximep | @wunder 71392 |
19:53 | huginn` | maximep: Error: No such location could be found. |
19:53 | maximep | cool |
19:53 | cyqb, heh | |
20:08 | jcamins | Ooh! It's sun! |
20:09 | maximep | sun ? forgot what it looks like |
20:09 | oleonard | The code for my local weather station is "KOHATHEN4." That's freaky. |
20:10 | maximep | mine is KERNBSD |
20:10 | now I wish I would use bsd | |
20:11 | jcamins | My apartment's is APRSWXNET. |
20:12 | I should be using wxWindows for all my cross-platform development. | |
20:13 | maximep | no u shouldnt :p |
20:13 | * oleonard | thinks he's got the glitches on Bug 3215 worked out but will have to wait 'til Monday to be sure |
20:13 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , It would be nice if "Add to Cart" changed to "Remove from Cart" |
20:13 | jcamins | maximep: no, you're right. |
20:13 | * oleonard | waves goodbye to #koha |
20:13 | * jcamins | didn't like wxWindows very much. |
20:13 | jcamins | Have a good weekend. |
20:13 | maximep | cya |
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20:53 | * Guest689 | weaves |
20:53 | * wizzyrea | waves |
20:54 | wizzyrea | weaving is fun too though |
20:54 | jcamins | Hi wizzyrea! |
20:54 | wizzyrea | hi there :) |
21:03 | jcamins | wizzyrea: have you ever made the gnocchi with regular potatoes? |
21:20 | wizzyrea | hm |
21:20 | now that's a good question. | |
21:20 | I always thought you really *needed* a potato ricer | |
21:20 | so probably not | |
21:21 | jcamins | Neither have I. I have potatoes to use, and I suspect they may be a bit too old for baked potatoes. |
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21:27 | jcamins | Hi NateC. |
21:27 | * jcamins | wonders why wahanui decided not to say "I LIKE SPACE" this time. |
21:28 | NateC | Hi jcamins! |
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21:43 | trea1 | i'll just leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?f[…]d&v=iN5jPQdJXYE#! |
21:45 | wizzyrea | ha |
21:45 | jcamins | Hehe. |
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22:05 | * jcamins | gives drojf the duct tape. |
22:05 | bag | NateC? |
22:05 | bummer no wahanui | |
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22:50 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.6.3 & 3.4.8 & 3.2.11 are now available ; Next General IRC Meeting 8 February at 2:00 UTC+0 | http://www.koha-community.org | http://paste.koha-community.org | |
22:50 | maximep | 3.6.3 & 3.4.8, yay |
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23:02 | mib_v9kgbo | Greetings Koha enthusiasts! My name is Jess, and this is my first time chatting. |
23:04 | maximep | i'm afraid there won't be too much people in here on a friday night |
23:05 | on that note, good weekend everyone! | |
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23:15 | mib_v9kgbo | Ah, no worries. Does anyone have experience with local use statistics? |
23:16 | jcamins | mib_v9kgbo: you create a special statistics patron and check books out to that patron. |
23:17 | mib_v9kgbo: it should be in the manual. | |
23:19 | mib_v9kgbo: what problem are you having? | |
23:19 | (I'm only sort of here, but I'll answer if I can) | |
23:49 | mib_v9kgbo | Sorry for the delayed response here; duty called. :) My question is, how does one view local use stats for a particular group of items? |
23:50 | I've been trying to set up a report that would give me the info, but haven't been successful yet. | |
23:50 | However, I'm also pretty new to reports in Koha! | |
23:51 | Our library does have a statistical patron set up for tracking in-house use. | |
23:52 | jcamins | reports library? |
23:52 | report library? | |
23:52 | Argh! | |
23:53 | (we have a bot that's supposed to answer that question) | |
23:53 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rack_In_House_Use | |
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23:58 | apaes | Hi everyone |
23:59 | Can any of you guys point me to any resource about zebra configuration? I can't seem to get search results :( | |
23:59 | I'm running 3.6.3 |
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