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01:51 | jcamins | Hello kmkale. |
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01:51 | kmkale | Namaste jcamins :) |
01:52 | jcamins | 1633 was pushed today. :) |
01:52 | Well, yesterday for you. | |
01:54 | kmkale | YAY!!! |
01:54 | Thanks jcamins | |
01:54 | * jcamins | is very pleased about this. |
01:56 | kmkale | too |
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01:59 | kmkale | status still shows siigned-off, not ppushed? |
02:00 | jcamins | That's the follow-up. |
02:04 | kmkale | wow. That was *SOME* work from you jcamins |
02:04 | jcamins++ | |
02:04 | jcamins | :) I do my best. |
02:04 | kmkale | jcamins is the best |
02:04 | jcamins? | |
02:04 | wahanui | jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine. |
02:05 | kmkale | heh |
02:05 | kmkale? | |
02:05 | wahanui | kmkale may be psychic. |
02:05 | kmkale | :-D |
02:05 | jcamins | :) |
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03:12 | kmkale | bbl |
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03:29 | AmitG | heya bag |
03:29 | bag | yo AMit |
03:29 | AmitG: | |
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03:34 | libsysguy | hey somebody told me bywater was working on a project with serials |
03:34 | or maybe acquisitions | |
03:34 | anybody know what the story is on that? | |
03:35 | jcamins | libsysguy: BibLibre has a big acquisitions and serials project. |
03:35 | libsysguy | hmm |
03:35 | do you know if there is an RFC for it or a ticket? | |
03:35 | jcamins | Don't know if ByWater has anything going on with those modules, but bag would know. |
03:35 | bag | hmm… what project? |
03:35 | libsysguy | Margo was saying something about it... |
03:35 | AmitG | heya jcamins |
03:36 | jcamins | Hi AmitG. |
03:36 | libsysguy | I am working on my senior project and there are some modifications or E-Resources librarian would like implemented |
03:36 | AmitG | heya libsysguy |
03:36 | wahanui | i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
03:36 | libsysguy | hey AmitG! |
03:36 | bag | go libsysguy++ |
03:37 | libsysguy | and I just wanted to make sure what I was about to start working on wouldn't overlap |
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03:38 | AmitG | heya kmkale |
03:38 | kmkale | Namaste AmitG |
03:38 | bag | libsysguy: is there a particular aspect that you are thinking of? |
03:39 | major developments that we've got working or hourly loans, print-slips, course reserves, and oclc connexion gateway | |
03:39 | libsysguy | yeah: Ability to edit invoices, add an invoice date field, add invoice notes field, add functionality to batch receive items |
03:39 | those are listed as top priority for her | |
03:40 | she has a document typed up | |
03:40 | bag | I don't think we are working on those… IRC |
03:42 | libsysguy | ok cool, ill see if I can stalk some of the biblibre guys and make sure they aren't either |
03:42 | jcamins | Bug 7163. |
03:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7163 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , BibLibre acquisitions omnibus |
03:42 | libsysguy | wow that is quite a ticket |
03:43 | thanks for finding that jcamins++ | |
03:51 | kmkale | Namaste bag :) |
03:51 | bag | hey kmkale |
03:51 | :) | |
03:57 | kmkale | getting a 'Can't call method "append_fields" on an undefined value at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/MARC/File/SAX.pm |
03:57 | any clue? | |
03:58 | happens while updating a item | |
03:58 | sorry adding an item | |
03:59 | bag | try about 13 more times and it works :) |
03:59 | no seriously - that happened to us today | |
04:13 | kmkale | whaaaaa? |
04:13 | jcamins | kmkale: corrupted record. |
04:14 | Probably an unclosed tag. | |
04:14 | Or a self-closing tag. | |
04:14 | kmkale | jcamins: resolution? delete record from biblio and biblioitems? |
04:14 | jcamins | kmkale: that's the easy solution. |
04:15 | The other option is fixing the record. | |
04:15 | The problem is in biblioitems.marcxml. | |
04:15 | kmkale | ok. If it allows editing, will try ficing esle its easier to delete and recreate |
04:16 | cold fingers. bad typing :( | |
04:16 | libsysguy | @wunder 75707 |
04:16 | huginn` | libsysguy: The current temperature in Lake Tyler -D3895, Tyler, Texas is 11.4°C (10:16 PM CST on January 24, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). |
04:16 | jcamins | kmkale: in order to fix the record, you'll probably have to extract the XML from biblioitems, find the problem, fix it in a text editor, than update the field. |
04:17 | kmkale | jcamins: yay!!. Be easier to delete and recreate.. |
04:17 | libsysguy | is there no edit option for the marcxml field |
04:17 | jcamins | Probably. |
04:18 | libsysguy | i don't think i've ever seen on |
04:18 | one* | |
04:18 | jcamins | libsysguy: not when it's corrupted. |
04:18 | The cataloging module edits the MARCXML. | |
04:18 | libsysguy | oh ok, I didn't know if there was a raw edit |
04:19 | jcamins | Nope. |
04:19 | libsysguy | sad day…for situations like this :p |
04:19 | jcamins | pianohacker did some work on a plain text interface. |
04:19 | rangi | sled was working on a way to recover it from the marc column |
04:20 | libsysguy | yeah I didn't know if somebody had done any work to implement it in plain text and add some syntax highlighting |
04:20 | rangi | slef even |
04:20 | libsysguy | lol I was like who is sled and does he live in the snow |
04:21 | * jcamins | thought he wouldn't be working on Koha much, too many hills. |
04:21 | libsysguy | hehe |
04:21 | jcamins | And, with that thought, bed time. |
04:21 | Good night, #koha. | |
04:21 | libsysguy | ngiht jcamins |
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04:43 | cait | good morning #koha |
04:44 | AmitG | rangi around? |
04:50 | heya cait | |
04:50 | cait | hi AmitG :) |
05:34 | AmitG | eythian around? |
05:34 | Robin around? | |
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07:12 | cait | hi #koha |
07:13 | alex_a | morning |
07:15 | cait | hi alex_a :) |
07:19 | alex_a | cait: bonjour :) |
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07:34 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
07:35 | cait | good morning magnuse |
07:35 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
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07:35 | reiveune | hello |
07:36 | magnuse | bonjour! |
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08:04 | asaurat | hallo! |
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08:04 | francharb | hello |
08:04 | wahanui | hi, francharb |
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08:07 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
08:10 | AmitG | heya paul_p |
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08:19 | kf | hi again #koha |
08:19 | francharb++ | |
08:19 | francharb | ;) |
08:42 | paul_p | Lyon 3 university go live with Koha 3.6 today... I won't be available probably for the whole day ! |
08:46 | kf | it's koha |
08:46 | it will be all fine | |
08:46 | :) | |
08:46 | good luck and have fun paul_p | |
08:46 | paul_p | I feel it won't be fun, but thx for the good luck ! |
08:49 | kf | optimism is key :) |
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08:58 | alex_a | shrc |
08:59 | kf | shrc? |
09:00 | alex_a | pfffff, i write on a chan, some letters goes in the right chan, others in an other chan :-/ |
09:02 | so you can enjoy a part of what i say somewhere else | |
09:02 | * kf | enjoys then |
09:03 | magnuse | fingers crossed for lyon3! |
09:03 | alex_a | kf: shrc is the end of "bashrc" :) |
09:04 | kf | aha! |
09:04 | alex_a | an other game ? |
09:04 | kf | heh |
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10:06 | magnuse | anyone tried sending CHECKOUT messages by email in 3.6.x? i'm getting messages with the raw <<issues.issuingbranch>> and <<issues.date_due>> in them... |
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10:08 | kf | uhoh |
10:08 | hmm | |
10:08 | I always use items.content in there I think | |
10:08 | let me check | |
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10:10 | kf | hmm |
10:10 | magnuse: I have only biblio tables available | |
10:10 | not the issues table | |
10:10 | in 3.2.2 | |
10:10 | and we use biblio.title | |
10:11 | magnuse | ah, i'm on 3.6.2 |
10:11 | kf | magnuse: and the field list doesn't offer issues to me |
10:11 | so perhaps added later | |
10:11 | magnuse | sound slike it |
10:40 | the description of the "CataloguingLog" syspref says "[Log] any changes to bibliographic or item records. Since this occurs whenever a book is checked in or out as well, it is not advisable to turn this on." - is that still true after we items were removed from the MARCXML? | |
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12:29 | AmitG | heya jwagner |
12:30 | jwagner | Hi AmitG |
12:33 | kf_lunch | magnus_afk: I think you are right - it can be changed |
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13:06 | kf_lunch | silent day |
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13:24 | kmkale_ | some queries about the "Record Matching Rules" |
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13:25 | kmkale_ | Are the rules we set up used against records imported earlier in the same batch? |
13:25 | drojf | good local time of the day #koha |
13:27 | kmkale_ | I am importing a batch in a empty new Koha install and have set up a rule. I *KNOW* there are matching records in the batch, but the stage marc records page reported zero matches. |
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13:32 | hdl | kmkale_: if the previously imported biblios are not indexed then no. |
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13:33 | hdl | kf, just received your pm on members page, and list. |
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13:33 | druthb | o/ |
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13:38 | kmkale_ | so would the proper way be that i import only the biblios first ignoring items, index them, then run the same batch with ingnore matching biblios and always add items? |
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13:58 | kf_lunch | hdl: list? |
13:58 | hdl: my test installation is at home - can only check german here | |
13:58 | hdl: do you mean lists in opac? it can be your javascript needs a refresh perhaps | |
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13:59 | kf_lunch | hdl: members pages in staff seem ok tome too. hmm. |
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14:06 | hdl | looked busted where I saw that. |
14:12 | kf_lunch | hdl: no idea - Ih ave seen problems with the list button in the past |
14:12 | hdl: but on my current system it seems to work nicely. for the member page -perhaps some custom jquery? | |
14:13 | hdl | nope but never mind |
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14:14 | oleonard | Oh, and Hi #koha. |
14:15 | magnus_afk | kia ora oleonard |
14:16 | oleonard | Fun fact about being me: When people start their sentences with "Oh, and" I think they're talking to me because it comes out "Oh, an'" |
14:16 | kf_lunch | hi oleonard |
14:16 | :) | |
14:21 | * paul_p | really in love with git ! |
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14:22 | magnus_afk | o/ |
14:22 | * oleonard | suggests that paul_p give git a lovely present for Valentine's Day |
14:23 | paul_p | Lyon 3 has a really complex structure = git.koha-community => pre-prod server => apache server => zebra & opac server. With some git remote add, git push, git fetch, it's easy to update everything ! |
14:23 | magnus_afk | yay |
14:23 | paul_p | (with some patches made by biblibre & some patches -texts or things like that- made by the library, so we also have 3 branches (master/biblibre/lyon3local) |
14:24 | 3 branches, 5 git repo, push/fetch/checkout everywhere :D :D | |
14:25 | kf_lunch | oleonard++ lol |
14:25 | git is mighty - but this sounds really complicated! | |
14:25 | but you are smiling paul_p - so had fun? :) | |
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14:28 | * magnus_afk | promises not to tell paul_p's wife ;-) |
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15:09 | wizzyrea | kf about? |
15:09 | * wizzyrea | waves hi |
15:10 | wizzyrea | also - why do we not have an all-all rule in the defaults? |
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15:22 | wizzyrea | magnuse re: checkout messages, please have a look at 7001, which will overhaul that system. |
15:22 | I could use some help testing anyway | |
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15:32 | magnus_away | cool, i'll try to get a look at that |
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16:14 | vfernandes | Hi guys |
16:16 | anybody has experienced migrate record/items from Aleph to Koha? | |
16:19 | jcamins_away | vfernandes: I'm pretty sure it's been done, but I'm not sure by whom. |
16:19 | But I think I recall someone mentioning a migration from Aleph. | |
16:20 | vfernandes | aleph has a database so complicated... :/ |
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16:40 | kf | wizzyrea: amn ow |
16:40 | wizzyrea | kf I was looking at that bug 6539 |
16:40 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6539 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, peter.lorimer, Signed Off , Z39.50 Search ISBN Field Populated with title |
16:40 | kf | yes |
16:40 | wizzyrea | the thing you noticed about kw,wrdl in the results |
16:41 | it's in master too :( | |
16:41 | kf | is a general problem |
16:41 | I think it's been like that for a longer timenow | |
16:41 | you might even find it in 3.2.x - not sure | |
16:41 | wizzyrea | yea, it happens when you do it from a page with no results |
16:42 | kf | t |
16:42 | wizzyrea | dk why i'm on about it, I'll just file a bug for the kw, wrdl thing. |
16:43 | unless you know of one already | |
16:44 | kf | no sorry :( |
16:44 | not aware of a bug report | |
16:44 | wizzyrea | k |
16:45 | kf | seems I tested that a longer time ago? |
16:45 | how did you stumble upon it? | |
16:46 | wizzyrea | I had a librarian ask me why the ISBN's were going in the title search |
16:46 | which is wrong behavior :) | |
16:46 | turns out there was a bug, and a patch | |
16:46 | and failed qa for pretty trivial reasons. | |
16:46 | of which were easily fixed. | |
16:46 | but apparently the bug had been abandoned. | |
16:47 | jcamins | Apparently an actual instance of XC has been spotted in the wild. |
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16:52 | jcamins | It is kind of cute, isn't it? |
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16:54 | kf | oh where? |
16:55 | jcamins | http://catalog.lib.kyushu-u.ac.jp/en |
16:56 | wizzyrea | wait, what am I looking at |
16:57 | chris_n | does anyone know off the top of their head what controls the order of the drop-down list for the 942 field in the marc editor? |
16:57 | jcamins | chris_n: alphabetical order. |
16:58 | wizzyrea: an eXtensible Catalog installation. | |
16:58 | wizzyrea | oh i see |
16:58 | 942c? | |
16:59 | * chris_n | 's catalogers are in a uproar because the order is inconvenient |
16:59 | jcamins | chris_n: do what I do: put spaces in. |
16:59 | wizzyrea | or number them. |
16:59 | but that is also inconvenient | |
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17:01 | jcamins | Spaces aren't visible, and you should be able to use multiple spaces to control the order. |
17:01 | Just don't decide to reorder things. | |
17:02 | wizzyrea | i think he's probably in the "this has been set for a while and now they want to reorder them" state |
17:02 | catalogers. Sheesh. ;) | |
17:02 | (you know I love them) | |
17:05 | chris_n | heh |
17:06 | well, they just added some stuff which is seldom used but now shows at the top of the list | |
17:08 | wizzyrea | oooof |
17:08 | jcamins | Make them rename the types to start with letters near the end of the alphabet. |
17:15 | * oleonard | got an unpleasant shock when he checked prices on flights to KohaCon12 |
17:15 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, apparently it's much more expensive to go out in June than in January. |
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17:17 | kf | jcamins :( |
17:17 | jcamins | Five years ago (almost exactly!) I bought a round-trip ticket from Edinburgh to New York for less than $500 about a week before my trip. |
17:18 | kf | perhaps to london and to edinburgh by train? |
17:19 | having another road trip could be fun | |
17:20 | jcamins | It's better, but still pricey. |
17:20 | kf | hmpf |
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17:35 | jcamins | Chester the blue cat says hi. |
17:36 | * kf | waves at chester |
17:36 | kf | bye all |
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17:38 | wizzyrea | hi chester :) |
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17:42 | * oleonard | learned of this for the first time today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4 CAN'T HUG EVERY CAT -- a song about loving cats |
17:42 | reiveune | bye |
17:42 | wizzyrea | lol |
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17:42 | wizzyrea | ok, that is amazing |
17:43 | maximep | you're late to the can't hug every cat party |
17:43 | wizzyrea | I saw the original |
17:43 | but the autotune version is much funnier and a whole lot less creepy | |
17:43 | maximep | greg brothers are genius |
17:45 | wizzyrea | druthb: you must click that link |
17:45 | oleonard | I'm scared to watch the original. |
17:45 | wizzyrea | @later tell druthb • member:oleonard learned of this for the first time today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4 CAN'T HUG EVERY CAT -- a song about loving cats |
17:45 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
17:45 | wizzyrea | it's alarming |
17:48 | maximep | well thanks to you i'm stuck in a youtube loop of gregory brothers autotune songs |
17:48 | :D | |
17:48 | wizzyrea | oh you went down the rabbit hole |
17:49 | cait__ | :-) |
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18:06 | cait | hi again #koha |
18:06 | mbalmer | howdy folks. |
18:07 | 20% of my work time have been reserved for koha hacking… dunno if that is a good thing or not .. | |
18:07 | cait | hi mbalmer |
18:10 | oleonard | mbalmer: 20% isn't nearly enough ;) |
18:11 | mbalmer | it's already to much, imo ;) |
18:12 | cait | I think most people here love to spend time on #koha - that's why they are doing it |
18:12 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
18:13 | * chris_n | thinks his has been like 5% of work time and 25% of free time lately :) |
18:13 | mbalmer | it's definitely fun to hack on it when you can work together with real librarians (which I am not) |
18:13 | wizzyrea | oh, yea |
18:13 | that makes it less fun | |
18:13 | what is your situation then? | |
18:15 | mbalmer | I am in informatics, programmer, software development for a living. but we are a group of five, one content guy, two librarians. so we are nicely set up for the job. |
18:15 | and don't get me wrong, I think working on koha _is_ fun. | |
18:16 | * wizzyrea | would not assume that everyone thinks it's fun - but most of us here do. |
18:22 | rangi | Morning |
18:22 | wizzyrea | mornin |
18:23 | jcamins | Morning. |
18:23 | cait | morning rangi :) |
18:23 | jcamins | rangi: you wanted something from me yesterday? |
18:23 | rangi | Can't remember |
18:23 | jcamins | rangi: in that case, you're welcome. ;) |
18:23 | chris_n | heya rangi |
18:23 | rangi | Can't be important |
18:23 | * wizzyrea | heads off for lunch |
18:23 | wizzyrea | bbl |
18:24 | * chris_n | looks for coffee |
18:24 | mbalmer | couscous on the table, biaw... |
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18:27 | rangi | I'm doing %29 coffee |
18:29 | jcamins | %29 coffee? |
18:30 | * rangi | is being snarky |
18:30 | * jcamins | doesn't think you mean "group separator coffee," and can't quite figure out what else it could mean. |
18:31 | jcamins | %32 would make sense to me... some sort of freeze-dried instant coffee. |
18:31 | rangi | Heh |
18:31 | * chris_n | only drinks the 100% coffee ;-) |
18:49 | rangi | back |
18:53 | * maximep | hates everything about coffee |
18:54 | jcamins | maximep: tea? |
18:55 | * maximep | don't drink anything hot |
18:55 | maximep | yeah, i'm weird. |
18:55 | cait | hehe |
18:55 | maximep | I also hate wine |
18:55 | * jcamins | knows a number of people who don't drink hot things. |
18:55 | jcamins | Mostly it's for religious reasons, though. |
18:56 | maximep | all I drink at work is a bottle of ice cold water every day |
18:56 | jcamins | maximep: do most of your coworkers drink wine? ;) |
18:57 | (at work) | |
18:57 | If so, can I come work with you? :P | |
18:57 | maximep | haha |
18:57 | some drink beer.... on friday | |
18:58 | * jcamins | doesn't like beer. It has bubbles. |
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18:58 | jcamins | ... we discussed this two days ago, didn't we? |
18:58 | maximep | I missed that one |
18:58 | mbalmer | re |
19:00 | jcamins | maximep: it could just be deja vu. |
19:02 | cait | jcamins: you don't like bubbles? |
19:03 | jcamins | cait: nope. |
19:03 | maximep | I love everything with bubbles |
19:05 | * magnuse | sympathizes completely with maximep... |
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19:06 | jcamins | magnuse: I would've thought that it would be cold enough that you would want hot drinks. |
19:06 | nengard | tall joy or druthb i'm wondering if you can make a quick change for me on l20 |
19:06 | * oleonard | would hate to plan a dinner party menu for you guys |
19:06 | rangi | hi nengard |
19:06 | nengard | oops - wrong room :) |
19:06 | hi all | |
19:07 | magnuse | jcamins: well, hot chocolate/cocoa once in a blue moon, no coffee or tea |
19:07 | @wunder boo | |
19:07 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:50 PM CET on January 25, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
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19:07 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
19:07 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 7.0°C (2:00 PM EST on January 25, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Steady). |
19:10 | maximep | @wunder YUL |
19:10 | huginn` | maximep: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -4.0°C (2:00 PM EST on January 25, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Falling). |
19:10 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
19:10 | huginn` | jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 5.6°C (1:42 PM EST on January 25, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa. |
19:11 | magnuse | oleonard: cold water - how hard can it be? ;-) |
19:11 | maximep | colder here than in borway, heh |
19:11 | *norway | |
19:11 | rangi | borway, norway's much less interesting cousin |
19:12 | magnuse | lol! |
19:12 | maximep | the b is really far from the n on my keyboard, so not sure what happened there :P |
19:12 | * magnuse | wonders what kinf of keyboard maximep has... |
19:13 | magnuse | kind, even |
19:13 | maximep | well, not that far. it's a ms ergonomic keyboard that splits in the middle. the b is on my left hand and the n on my right hand |
19:13 | so this is just wierd that I typed b :S | |
19:16 | magnuse | ah |
19:16 | oleonard | Those keyboards hurt my brain. |
19:17 | * magnuse | never tried one, but is not a very disciplined typer, so can't imagine it would be a success |
19:17 | maximep | with it my wrists would just die |
19:19 | and by die I mean carpal tunnel | |
19:24 | * magnuse | is upgrading a swedish library and moving them to the debian packages, to make future upgrades easier |
19:25 | jcamins | Yay! |
19:25 | packages++ | |
19:25 | * wizzyrea | reads the scrollback, is sad to have missed the discussion. |
19:26 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Drink choice, weather, or keyboards? |
19:26 | wizzyrea | all of the above |
19:26 | * wizzyrea | prefers Earl Grey, spring/fall weather, and chiclet keyboards. |
19:26 | wizzyrea | also: borway = norway's less interesting cousin = lulz |
19:26 | chris_n | Earl_Grey++ |
19:27 | magnuse | chiclet? |
19:27 | oleonard | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiclet_keyboard |
19:27 | wizzyrea | yes that thank you |
19:28 | but more importantly | |
19:28 | magnuse | note to self: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chiclet+keyboard |
19:28 | wizzyrea | http://www.thinkpads.com/wp-co[…]clet_keyboard.jpg |
19:29 | or: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oKWt[…]im-keyboard-4.jpg | |
19:29 | rangi | chiclet makes me think all you could type on it is bridget jones diary novels |
19:30 | magnuse | lol |
19:30 | jcamins | Heh. |
19:30 | * oleonard | imagines fans of chick lit might tell rangi he's showing his age with that reference |
19:30 | rangi | whats it now |
19:30 | vampires and crap? | |
19:31 | oleonard | bridget jones + vampires, the only remaining mashup left. |
19:31 | rangi | heh |
19:33 | maximep | I really like typing on my thinkpad keyboard and I type way faster on it, but I need support for my wrists |
19:33 | http://www.microsoft.com/hardw[…]nek4000_large.jpg | |
19:33 | but I hate that this thing is huge | |
19:35 | wizzyrea | @quote add rangi: chiclet makes me think all you could type on it is bridget jones diary novels |
19:35 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #182 added. |
19:35 | rangi | wizzyrea: can you ask sharon whats new in chick lit? :) |
19:36 | wizzyrea | @quote add oleonard: bridget jones + vampires, the only remaining mashup left. |
19:36 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #183 added. |
19:36 | wizzyrea | hehe, i will when she comes back |
19:36 | vampires and zombies are pretty likely, however. | |
19:37 | oleonard | http://www.examiner.com/horror[…]yer-bridget-jones |
19:37 | wizzyrea | besides, she reads *smut*, there's a difference |
19:37 | omg. | |
19:37 | rangi | oh true |
19:37 | pervert | |
19:37 | :-) | |
19:37 | wizzyrea | :D |
19:38 | seriously | |
19:38 | I don't even... I guess the mayans were right after all. | |
19:38 | rangi | heh |
19:39 | jcamins | Wow. |
19:40 | * wizzyrea | goes back to watching the cat hugging video just to cleanse the mental palate. |
19:42 | * jcamins | has to locate a bowtie. |
19:43 | jcamins | (that was unrelated to both vampires and cat hugging, it just suddenly struck me) |
19:43 | wizzyrea | uh huh. |
19:43 | You wanted to put a bowtie on your cat | |
19:43 | * wizzyrea | knows better |
19:44 | jcamins | lol |
19:44 | Speaking of cats with bowties... | |
19:44 | http://cuteoverload.com/2011/0[…]fathers-day-ties/ | |
19:44 | Second from the bottom. | |
19:45 | Oh wow. | |
19:45 | http://tiecats.tumblr.com/ | |
19:45 | * wizzyrea | boggles that I said "bowtie" and "cat" in one sentence |
19:45 | wizzyrea | and someone out there googled it. |
19:46 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I already knew about the first one. |
19:46 | I just had never noticed the source. | |
19:46 | wizzyrea | that, my friends, is the long tail at work |
19:46 | forgive my pun. | |
19:47 | jcamins | lol |
19:58 | magnuse | the worst thing that can happen if i truncate the sessions table is poeople who are logged in will have to login again, right? |
19:58 | rangi | yes |
19:58 | wizzyrea | yes |
19:58 | magnuse | thanks |
19:58 | wizzyrea | oh you are too fast. |
19:58 | jcamins | magnuse: you should think about using memcached for sessions. |
19:58 | magnuse | i think i made a major mistake when i didn't cron the cleanup_database script for this installation... |
19:59 | jcamins: i will for my own installations, but i'm just helping someone else out here | |
19:59 | jcamins | Ah. |
19:59 | magnuse | mysql> truncate sessions; |
19:59 | Query OK, 7283351 rows affected (0.39 sec) | |
19:59 | oops | |
19:59 | rangi | heh |
19:59 | jcamins | That's a lot of sessions. |
20:00 | magnuse | it is |
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20:00 | magnuse | packages++ for setting up the cleanupscript automatically |
20:00 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
20:00 | magnuse | the mysqldump went from 2.3G to 303M... |
20:01 | jcamins | Wow! |
20:01 | magnuse | let that be a lesson to us all, boys and girls |
20:01 | wizzyrea | oh snap. |
20:04 | cait | hi aleksa |
20:04 | aleksa | hello |
20:06 | cait | I saw your patches - good work :) |
20:06 | wizzyrea | oh do we have a new developer to add? |
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20:06 | rangi | not pushed yet, but soon! |
20:06 | wizzyrea | sweeeet |
20:07 | magnuse | yay |
20:07 | jcamins | Speaking of which, thanks for the sign-off on the follow-up, rangi. |
20:07 | rangi: out of curiosity, why do we have some tests in a different place? | |
20:07 | aleksa | thanks. |
20:07 | rangi | you mean the xt vs t? |
20:07 | jcamins | Right. |
20:07 | rangi | t/ = unit tests, testing functionality |
20:08 | aarkerio | hi! I am trying to install Koha and I try install some translations: |
20:08 | cd misc/translator && perl install-code.pl fr-FR es-ES | |
20:08 | rangi | xt/ = testing hmmm syntax/semantics .. not function |
20:08 | jcamins | Ah. |
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20:08 | aarkerio | but install-code.pl is not there |
20:08 | * jcamins | didn't know about xt until the jenkins complete. |
20:08 | rangi | so there are tests for missing copyright headers, fsf address wrong, bad tt syntax etc |
20:09 | oleonard | rangi: Do you use git hooks to run automatic tests? |
20:09 | rangi | i do |
20:09 | 2 secs | |
20:09 | aarkerio | how can I install the spanish translations? |
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20:10 | rangi | oleonard: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]s/heads/git-hooks |
20:10 | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]1303f12a209dc2f21 | |
20:11 | magnuse | aarkerio: which version are you installing? |
20:11 | aarkerio: and what instructions are you following? | |
20:11 | aarkerio | magnuse: koha-3.06.02 |
20:11 | magnuse | aarkerio: you probably need to do "perl translate install es-ES" |
20:12 | aarkerio: good version :-) | |
20:14 | aarkerio | magnuse, thanks! |
20:14 | magnuse | aarkerio: no problem! |
20:18 | * chris_n | cracks open a new Inspiron One w/touchscreen to be used in our k-12 academy library w/koha |
20:18 | wizzyrea | coool |
20:18 | rangi | ohh nice |
20:19 | wizzyrea | we have some touch screens in the wild |
20:19 | in NEKLS | |
20:19 | people seem to like them | |
20:19 | rangi | photos/blogpost |
20:19 | chris_n | touchscreen + scanner + self checkout = easy circulation |
20:19 | rangi | for the kc site |
20:19 | would be nice | |
20:19 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
20:19 | chris_n | rangi: good thought |
20:19 | cait | we should do more blog posts |
20:19 | rangi | we should |
20:19 | chris_n | I'll work something up once its on line |
20:19 | cait | pretty silent on kc |
20:19 | rangi | thanks chris_n |
20:19 | chris_n | should be early next week |
20:19 | cait | chris_n++ |
20:19 | going to release tonight? | |
20:20 | chris_n | cait: yup |
20:20 | cait | yay :) |
20:20 | and we will update 5 libraries on friday :) | |
20:22 | * magnuse | will be upgrading from 3.6.2 pretty soon too |
20:24 | rangi | 3.6.3 looks pretty solid |
20:24 | * magnuse | finds hitting "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and pondering all the work that has been put into those lines scrolling by pretty awesome... |
20:26 | cait | rangi: I guess we will shake out the bugs pretty fast if there are any |
20:26 | :) | |
20:26 | but I think it's pretty solid too | |
20:26 | * magnuse | has had no complaints about 3.6.2 |
20:27 | magnuse | (upgraded the last customers on the weekend) |
20:27 | but there is bug 7445 for those who use tags | |
20:27 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist" |
20:28 | magnuse | and it probably affects stemming too |
20:28 | jcamins | I merged my customizations into the latest 3.6.x a few days ago, so I'll just do another merge after the release and it'll be ready for testing. |
20:29 | * chris_n | hates to say it, but chrome has ff beat atm |
20:29 | jcamins | chris_n: other than the annoying Koha cataloging module hang, Chrome has had FF beat for months, as far as I'm concerned. |
20:32 | maximep | on what ? |
20:33 | jcamins | maximep: not crashing. |
20:33 | And being faster. | |
20:34 | maximep | my firefox at work hasn't crashed since I work here |
20:34 | 8 months | |
20:34 | also haven't closed a single tab since that time | |
20:34 | jcamins | maximep: well, I stopped using FF more than eight months ago, so it's possible that they fixed the bugs that were causing it to crash. |
20:35 | maximep | 6-7-8 are more crash fix releases than anything else |
20:35 | and 9 | |
20:35 | stupid versions | |
20:37 | and for the faster.. can't defend ff there | |
20:37 | chrome is just insanely fast | |
20:37 | wizzyrea | bug 6985 - does this need to be a system preference? |
20:37 | * wizzyrea | cringes |
20:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6985 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , Hide "kw,wrdl:" from Search Results |
20:37 | maximep | oh id like that |
20:38 | oleonard | does anyone really *want* to see "kw.wrdl" ? |
20:38 | * wizzyrea | has a patch to just make it go away |
20:38 | bag | not sure - I feel it just shouldn't appear |
20:38 | jcamins | The last version I used was 3.6, I think. |
20:38 | bag | no need to sys pref that... |
20:38 | chris_n | maximep: my ff crashes continually due to bad js support |
20:38 | plus it does not allow different cookie jars for different windows | |
20:39 | at least not easily and w/o hogging resources | |
20:39 | wizzyrea | the problem is, you can't, well, I haven't spent enough time to figure it out, but you can't say "your search for X returned yyy results" |
20:39 | if you want X, it comes with kw,wrdl | |
20:39 | chris_n | plus leaving ff running for very long periods of time seems to leak memory |
20:39 | * wizzyrea | would prefer "your search for X" |
20:40 | wizzyrea | however, it's not *that* important to me |
20:40 | because the last search is retained in the search box | |
20:40 | so meh | |
20:40 | * wizzyrea | will submit the patch |
20:40 | wizzyrea | and y'all can fight about it later. |
20:40 | * jcamins | updated FF. |
20:41 | aarkerio | hi! should I execute: |
20:41 | perl translate install es-ES | |
20:41 | before or after installation? | |
20:41 | magnuse | wizzyrea++ |
20:41 | aarkerio: before you run the webinstaller | |
20:42 | aarkerio | ok!! |
20:43 | magnuse | otherwise, you will not get to see the spanish choices in the webinstaller |
20:44 | jcamins | o.O |
20:45 | Buddy_Bones_Jones | jcamins http://www.huffingtonpost.com/[…]re_n_1229406.html |
20:45 | jcamins | Ah. |
20:45 | Yeah, that's been all over Facebook. | |
20:46 | I love that they misspelled the URL. | |
20:47 | pretty_eyes_jefferson | oh yours is good. |
20:47 | * Red_Money_Parker | is glad not to be named "Toothless" |
20:47 | pretty_eyes_jefferson | hm, with my proper birth name that is less fun. |
20:48 | texas_eyes_dupree | who has texas eyes. |
20:48 | I ask you. | |
20:48 | * oleonard | liked that one too wizzyrea |
20:48 | oleonard | It was the "dupree" that made it all come together |
20:49 | wizzyrea | pretty eyes dupree I think would be my favorite |
20:49 | cait | curly hips gumbo brown? |
20:49 | hmpf | |
20:51 | oooh | |
20:51 | oleonard: | |
20:51 | i was wondering if you could rebase 7113 | |
20:51 | because when you did | |
20:51 | wizzyrea | bug 7113 |
20:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7113 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Standardize vendor id name in templates and scripts |
20:51 | cait | I could sign off on it again :) |
20:52 | oleonard | I started to, and ran into a snag with some newly-added stuff. I need to go back to it. Maybe tomorrow. |
20:57 | * jcamins | heads to Forest Hills to fill up a suitcase and head back into the city to catch a bus to the suburbs. |
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21:00 | * oleonard | hopes jcamins_away is going to fill the suitcase with money |
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21:04 | cait | oleonard: cool :) |
21:06 | * oleonard | thinks there are some newly-introduced instances of vendor id which will have to be tracked down |
21:10 | wizzyrea | is there something like lifehacker that focuses on open platforms? |
21:10 | * wizzyrea | is tired of reading about windows and iphones |
21:10 | magnuse | bleurgh |
21:11 | hopes this may be improved into something useful one day: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages | |
21:11 | wizzyrea | oo yea - did you start that magnuse? |
21:11 | magnuse | yup |
21:11 | wizzyrea | good one |
21:12 | we also need one for "moving a dev install to a package install" | |
21:12 | magnuse | hope it will do more good than bad, but probably needs some work |
21:12 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
21:12 | magnuse | well, they should be quite similar, i think |
21:12 | wizzyrea | yea |
21:12 | magnuse | well, i guess i just left all the old files etc in place |
21:13 | wizzyrea | there would be some futzing about with paths |
21:13 | magnuse | explaining how to clean up *everything* would require two different variants |
21:13 | wizzyrea | yea |
21:13 | and we've seen how well that works in the install documentation. >.> | |
21:14 | magnuse | heh? |
21:17 | wizzyrea | people end up very confused. |
21:17 | I have meant to separate out the dev and "standard" installs | |
21:17 | magnuse | ah yes |
21:17 | wizzyrea | and create a "packages" install guide |
21:18 | magnuse | yeah, that can be short and sweet, at least ;-) |
21:18 | wizzyrea | hehe yea |
21:18 | oh I just love those rounded corners on the tabs in the staff client | |
21:18 | magnuse | they *are* purdy ;-) |
21:18 | success! http://koha.sipri.org/ | |
21:19 | wizzyrea | yay! |
21:19 | I can get behind a library that uses koha for their repository of international peace research | |
21:19 | sipri++ | |
21:19 | * oleonard | motors |
21:19 | wizzyrea | nbyee |
21:27 | magnuse | wizzyrea: yay - i feel it helps a little for my karma - my main customer is the royal naval academy... |
21:28 | have fun, #koha! | |
21:38 | wizzyrea | but the royal naval academy of *norway* which probably does mostly peacekeeping missions anyway |
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21:50 | librarygeekadam | good day! |
21:51 | would any one have a minute to help me out with installation? | |
21:51 | i had this problem last time and I cannot remember how i got it working | |
21:52 | when I go to access the Koha admin through my browser i get "Not Found The requested URL / was not found on this server." Any ideas? | |
21:53 | wizzyrea | disable your apache default virtualhost? |
21:53 | a2dissite default | |
21:53 | apache2ctl restart | |
21:53 | sudo as appropriate, of course. | |
21:54 | librarygeekadam | i have done that but let me try again |
21:54 | wizzyrea | did you change the ip in your koha virtualhost to match the actual IP of the server? |
21:55 | librarygeekadam | hmmm...i dont know |
21:55 | wizzyrea | from 127.0.1.1 to your IP |
21:55 | librarygeekadam | what command do I run to do that? |
21:55 | wizzyrea | use your favorite editor to edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha |
21:55 | librarygeekadam | i ran the first thing you told me and got an error "NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts" |
21:56 | wizzyrea | or you can change the 127.0.1.1 to * |
21:56 | librarygeekadam | ok this is what I have in that file |
21:57 | I have edited before | |
21:57 | wizzyrea | paste.koha-community.org |
21:57 | :) | |
21:57 | or pastebin ^.^ | |
21:57 | librarygeekadam | in the instructions it gives this "VirtualHost 127.0.0.1:80" |
21:57 | but my file says this "VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:80" | |
21:57 | it has a 1 instead of a 0 | |
21:58 | wizzyrea | yep, change the 1 to a 0, I think that's a longstanding typo. |
21:58 | librarygeekadam | so i changed it so it looks like this now "VirtualHost 127.0.0.1:80 (my ip address):80" |
21:59 | is that correct? | |
21:59 | wizzyrea | no, you want VirtualHost <your ip>:80 |
21:59 | librarygeekadam | ok |
22:00 | for the second virtualhost further down as well then? | |
22:00 | wizzyrea | unless you're only accessing it from localhost (127.0.0.1) then you'd probably want it to answer on the IP of the machine |
22:00 | yep | |
22:00 | librarygeekadam | yeah i am only running this on a laptop to test |
22:01 | wizzyrea | then 127.0.0.1 is what you'd want |
22:01 | librarygeekadam | followed by my ip? |
22:01 | wizzyrea | (is what I do on my laptop) |
22:01 | nope, just 127.0.0.1:80 | |
22:01 | librarygeekadam | ok |
22:01 | let me try that real quick | |
22:02 | wizzyrea | remember to restart apache after you make the change :) |
22:03 | librarygeekadam | ok i did that |
22:03 | and I get this error "NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts" | |
22:03 | i got that when I restarted apache2 | |
22:03 | wizzyrea | is there a koha in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
22:03 | if not | |
22:03 | a2ensite koha | |
22:03 | aarkerio | librarygeekadam, maybe you need edit /etc/apache2/ports.conf to add: listen 8080 |
22:04 | and NameVirtualHost 127.0.1.1:8080 | |
22:06 | librarygeekadam | hmmm |
22:06 | well i had listen 8080 | |
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22:06 | wizzyrea | you have a typo there aarkerio - 127.0.0.1 is what he needs for localhost. |
22:07 | librarygeekadam | i added NameVirtualHost *:8080 and I got back 2 errors now when restarting apache - 1 for VH80 and 1 for VH8080 |
22:07 | aarkerio | wizzyrea, I think koha installer choose 127.0.1.1 in many installations |
22:07 | wizzyrea | it does - and it's not right. |
22:09 | aarkerio | librarygeekadam, your IP must be the same in koha-httpd.conf and ports.conf |
22:09 | I mean if in one you have VirtualHost 127.0.1.1:80 | |
22:09 | in ports you must have NameVirtualHost 127.0.1.1:80 | |
22:10 | no t NameVirtualHost *:80 | |
22:10 | librarygeekadam | ok |
22:10 | let me give that a go | |
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22:12 | aarkerio | by the way, if I omitted include MARC frameworks during installation |
22:12 | can I install them after setup? | |
22:17 | librarygeekadam | im sorry I would know...i have only gotten Koha installed once and I am trying to repeat but to no avail |
22:20 | still nothing for me | |
22:20 | i still get errors | |
22:20 | i tried going to 127.0.1.1:8080 and i get a software error | |
22:20 | i try going to 127.0.0.1:8080 and I get "not Found" | |
22:21 | aarkerio | what error log say? |
22:21 | librarygeekadam | what's the error log? |
22:22 | where it says software error: .... | |
22:23 | Access denied for user 'koha'@localhost' to database 'kohadata' at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 693 (and 4 more lines | |
22:23 | aarkerio | sudo tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log |
22:23 | maximep | wrong db password ? |
22:24 | aarkerio | try connect to DB from the command line |
22:24 | librarygeekadam | ok how do i do that |
22:24 | maximep | mysql -u koha -p kohadata |
22:24 | librarygeekadam | sorry i am such a noob |
22:27 | aarkerio | you should run "make test" during installation process ;-) |
22:27 | librarygeekadam | ok when i try that i get "Access denied for user 'koha'@'localhost' to database 'kohadata' |
22:27 | i did run make test and it came out fine | |
22:27 | maximep | so either you have the wrong password or your user doesn't have permissions |
22:28 | there's probably a GRANT ALL line somewhere in the instructions ? | |
22:28 | librarygeekadam | yes there is |
22:29 | the make test = pass | |
22:30 | should i run through the mysql part in the instructions again | |
22:33 | any thoughts? | |
22:33 | maximep | probably |
22:33 | what instructions are u using? | |
22:33 | librarygeekadam | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
22:35 | maximep | yeah i would do the mysql -u root -p part |
22:35 | and the GRANT ALL ON kohadata.* TO 'koha'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'YOURPASSWORD'; | |
22:35 | and then try again to connect with the koha user | |
22:36 | librarygeekadam | ok cool...that's what i was leaning towards :) |
22:38 | YES! it worked that time! thanks a bunch everyone! | |
22:41 | maximep | yay =) |
22:42 | wizzyrea | squee! |
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