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| 00:54 | rangi | hmm sounds like the person doing a blender tutorial is wowing the academy |
| 01:08 | ibeardslee | I got myself a bit lost, and have stopped so he can focus on the students :( |
| 01:09 | rangi | heh |
| 01:51 | Culiforge | could someone verify one of the steps on http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ntu.lucid;hb=HEAD for me? lines 99 and 100... is that supposed to be all one line? |
| 01:52 | trying to pick up where I left off this morning with my install | |
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| 03:14 | rangi | the \ means it can span 2 lines, but you can put it all on one line if you want |
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| 05:08 | mtj | heya peeps |
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| 05:09 | * mtj | waves to the herd |
| 05:09 | cait | hi mtj :) |
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| 07:21 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 07:21 | rangi | hi magnuse |
| 07:21 | cait | goo dmorning magnuse - you are late :) |
| 07:21 | ;) | |
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| 07:23 | magnuse | not that late, for me, i think? |
| 07:23 | and hiya rangi | |
| 07:23 | rangi | http://blogs.perl.org/users/al[…]g-nginx-perl.html |
| 07:25 | cait | magnuse: only joking :) |
| 07:25 | alex_a | morning koha :) |
| 07:25 | magnuse | cait: yay |
| 07:25 | vonjour alex_a | |
| 07:25 | or bonjour, your choice | |
| 07:26 | cait | hi alex_a :) |
| 07:26 | alex_a | :D |
| 07:26 | hello cait magnuse | |
| 07:26 | and rangi | |
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| 07:55 | kf | back |
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| 09:45 | magnuse | tee hee: http://english.stackexchange.c[…]rdue-library-book |
| 09:50 | kf | @later tell wizzyrea found out what alert does - emails for new serial issues :) |
| 09:50 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:45 | Culiforge | hello all |
| 11:02 | so a little while back, I attempted to install Koha and was unsuccessful. Primarily because I set up the mysql users and passwords incorrectly (at least I think that's what the problem was). Is there a specific user and/or pwd I need to have for proper database access? | |
| 11:03 | magnuse | Culiforge: nothing specific - but you need what is in your koha-conf.xml to match the database you set up for koha to use |
| 11:08 | Culiforge | magnuse: yeah, that was the issue last time... whatever install tut I used last time had defaults setup and I was confused by the prompts as far as what to put where. |
| 11:09 | magnuse | been there, done that ;-) |
| 11:10 | Culiforge | so with the git.koha-community.org install are there defaults that I should use to make it easier? this will be a test install, pretty much just for me until I can make it live.... |
| 11:10 | i'm currently at line 123 on the lucid install page... | |
| 11:11 | magnuse | when you run Makefile.PL it will suggest defaults, but it's much safer to use something you make up yourself, especially id this will eventually be a public installation |
| 11:11 | s/id/if/ | |
| 11:11 | Culiforge | or am I over thinking it? |
| 11:12 | s/id/if/? I don't understand | |
| 11:13 | magnuse | sorry, i wrote id when i meant if |
| 11:13 | Culiforge | ok |
| 11:13 | magnuse | s/id/if/ is how you'd replace the first thing with the second thing in perl :-) |
| 11:15 | Culiforge | ahh, I see. so I'm at : 2.2 Create the Koha database |
| 11:15 | 128 | |
| 11:15 | 129 Create the database and user with associated privileges: | |
| 11:15 | 130 | |
| 11:15 | 131 $ mysqladmin -uroot -p<password> create <kohadatabasename> | |
| 11:15 | 132 $ mysql -uroot -p<password> | |
| 11:15 | I can make this whatever I want but I'll have to change it in the xml file later right, so they match? | |
| 11:15 | magnuse | you can make <kohadatabasename> whatever you want |
| 11:16 | you don't have to edit the xml by hand, you have to remember it for when you run Makefile.PL | |
| 11:16 | Culiforge | or rather during the makefile step, ensure that they match? |
| 11:16 | magnuse | that script will ask for the db info |
| 11:17 | ...and create the xml file for you | |
| 11:17 | Culiforge | should I [space] between -p and <password>? I know spaces are important |
| 11:18 | paul_p | passed QA (patches to push) queue is empty ! (just 1 waiting for a unit test) ! |
| 11:18 | magnuse | paul_p++ |
| 11:18 | Culiforge | or is that the password for the -uroot command? |
| 11:19 | magnuse | Culiforge: you can also type mysql -u root -p |
| 11:19 | -u is an option that you use to give the mysql username you want to log in as | |
| 11:19 | Culiforge | when dselect configured mysql I left it open |
| 11:20 | magnuse | and it is a bit safer to just type -p - then you will be prompted for the password of the root user and it will not be in your history file etc |
| 11:20 | ah, i think "mysql -u root -p" should work then | |
| 11:21 | but not having a password for the root user in mysql is a bad idea if this install is ever going to be used for anything outside your local machine :-) | |
| 11:22 | Culiforge | I understand.. I've already gone down that road so I'll burn that bridge when I get to it |
| 11:22 | magnuse | hehe |
| 11:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7396: Debarred message not showing over SIP2 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]41ddcc0aaf5613fe4> / Bug 7381 - wrong isbn showing on the staff search results <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7a8501de56228b256> / Bug 7363: allows downloading of lists in CSV format <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; |
| 11:23 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7169] Change booksellers search results display <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7169> | |
| 11:24 | Culiforge | mysql> grant all on <kohadatabasename>.* to '<kohadatabaseuser>'@'localhost' identified by '<kohadatabaseuserpassword>'; so <kohadatabasename> is what I just named it, <kohadabaseuser> is the acct I use locally for admin and whatnot? |
| 11:25 | magnuse | <kohadatabasename> must match what you used in the previous command |
| 11:26 | <kohadatabaseuser> can be anything | |
| 11:26 | it will be in the xml file | |
| 11:26 | and you will use it the first time you log into the web ui + whenever you need to uograde the database later on | |
| 11:27 | but you should not use it for regularly logging into koha - the first thing you should do after installation is to create a regular user that you use for everything else | |
| 11:27 | Culiforge | ok, single quotes.. need to be there right? around 'user'@'localhost'? |
| 11:27 | magnuse | yup |
| 11:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #587 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 11:36 | Culiforge | so the tutorial so far has had everything in kohaclone.. now makefile wants to create /usr/share/koha... kohaclone is just the "install from" directory right? and koha is where the actual program will be? |
| 11:37 | magnuse | yup |
| 11:37 | if you do a standard install, files will be put in appropriate places "all over" the filesystem | |
| 11:38 | Culiforge | sorry for remedial questions... I just want to make sure I know what's going on so when I mess it up I can explain what I did :) |
| 11:38 | magnuse | Culiforge: no problem - and a good plan! ;-) |
| 11:41 | Culiforge | see, I messed up already... under specify the name of database I hit enter for default [koha]. so now after install is done, I need to edit something to set it properly right? |
| 11:42 | magnuse | yup, you need to edit koha-conf.xml |
| 11:42 | /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml if i remember correctly | |
| 11:43 | Culiforge | after all the makefile stuff is done right? |
| 11:43 | magnuse | yup |
| 11:43 | or you could Ctrl+c to stop the makefile and run it again | |
| 11:44 | Culiforge | that's probably easier... since this is all new to me |
| 11:44 | magnuse | yeah. might be |
| 11:45 | Culiforge | ok, user account.. default is [koha] leave it or should it be the <kohadatabaseuser> I created earlier? |
| 11:49 | magnuse | it should |
| 11:50 | Culiforge | should... be acct I made earlier? |
| 11:51 | magnuse | yes |
| 11:51 | user account = <kohadatabaseuser> | |
| 11:51 | Culiforge | but let it create group koha right? |
| 11:52 | magnuse | ah, maybe i'm leading you astray here |
| 11:52 | Culiforge | uh-oh |
| 11:52 | don't do that, i'm fragile | |
| 11:53 | magnuse | sorry! |
| 11:53 | Culiforge | hehe |
| 11:53 | magnuse | user account = the linux user that will own the koha files |
| 11:54 | i think the recommendation is to use a user named koha for that | |
| 11:54 | it will ask you for "the user that owns the database" later on | |
| 11:54 | Culiforge | right, that's where I'm at.. a user, but not root.. file owner and database owner can be the same as long as they're not root? |
| 11:55 | linux root, not mysql root | |
| 11:55 | magnuse | they will be two separate users, but you can give them the same name |
| 11:56 | linux users and mysql users are separate entities, even if they have the same name | |
| 11:56 | Culiforge | ok, good, we're still on track.. so group [koha]? leave as default? |
| 11:56 | magnuse | yup |
| 11:57 | Culiforge | database server [localhost] default or should I use my full machine address? |
| 11:58 | magnuse | localhost should do |
| 11:58 | if you just installed mysql locally | |
| 11:58 | and i bet you did :-) | |
| 11:58 | Culiforge | smart money,, I did |
| 11:59 | magnuse | yay! |
| 12:00 | Culiforge | pazpar2? default is no |
| 12:00 | leave it? | |
| 12:01 | magnuse | yeah |
| 12:10 | Culiforge | http://pastebin.com/qXsZZ0vi |
| 12:11 | is that an issue? | |
| 12:11 | magnuse | ah yes, you will have to install those by hand |
| 12:11 | you are on ubuntu, right? | |
| 12:11 | Culiforge | yes |
| 12:11 | good memory | |
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| 12:12 | magnuse | INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid says : |
| 12:12 | 97 Run the following command: | |
| 12:12 | 98 | |
| 12:12 | 99 $ sudo cpan HTTP::OAI Locale::Currency::Format Memoize::Memcached \ | |
| 12:12 | 100 PDF::API2::Simple Storable Text::CSV::Encoded | |
| 12:13 | did you do that? | |
| 12:13 | you need to install the ones that missing from cpan | |
| 12:14 | tp be precise, you only need CGI::Session::Driver::memcached and Memoize::Memcached if you are going to use memcached (i wouldn't worry about that yet...) | |
| 12:14 | you need PDF::API2::Simple if you are going to create PDFs for labels and patron cards | |
| 12:15 | i think template will mostly work with version 2.20, but you will not get zebra stripes on search results, so getting 2.22 is better | |
| 12:15 | Culiforge | ok, scrolling back to sudo cpan command to see what errors were |
| 12:15 | magnuse | you need Gravatar::URL if you want to turn gravatars in the opac |
| 12:16 | so Business::ISBN is the most important one | |
| 12:16 | but i would get the others too, if i were you | |
| 12:16 | good training :-) | |
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| 12:17 | magnuse | sorry, time for me to go afk for a couple hours, bbl! |
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| 12:18 | Culiforge | ok, thx for help |
| 12:23 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #587: SUCCESS in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/587/ |
| 12:23 | * julian.maurice: Bug 5358: Show cancelled orders in basket page | |
| 12:23 | * fridolyn.somers: BUG 6098 zebra conf NSB NSE indexed as space | |
| 12:23 | * f.demians: Bug 6098 Followup -- doesn't replace NSB/NSE by space | |
| 12:23 | * jcamins: Add MARC21 field 545 to to framework fix bug 5226 | |
| 12:23 | * katrin.fischer: Bug 5226: Follow up to new/awaiting_qa/bug_5226 | |
| 12:23 | * jcamins: Bug 5226: Add 545 to es-ES and nb-NO | |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5358 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , keep track of cancelled orders |
| 12:23 | jenkins_koha | * m.de.rooy: Bug 7367: Add space before display of languages. |
| 12:23 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 7368: Correct spelling of merge authorities job in pref file. | |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6098 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fridolyn.somers, ASSIGNED , zebra conf NSB NSE indexed as space |
| 12:23 | jenkins_koha | * nengard: Bug 7373 - Add 5 new icons to Bridge Set |
| 12:23 | * magnus: Bug 7375 - Update minimum version of Perl to 5.10 | |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5226 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, koha, ASSIGNED , MARC21 field 545 missing |
| 12:23 | jenkins_koha | * duncan: Bug 7348 - Fixed error for serial toolbar buttons in IE7 |
| 12:23 | * nengard: bug6716 - document the aqbooksellers table | |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7367 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General OPAC typo omnibus |
| 12:23 | jenkins_koha | * m.de.rooy: 6717 Documenting need_merge_authorities table |
| 12:23 | * marc: Bug 7356 - Fix various typos and mis-spellings | |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , General staff client typo omnibus |
| 12:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7373 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , new bridge icons | |
| 12:23 | jenkins_koha | * koha: Bug 7360 Import Default framework into other deletes default Framework |
| 12:23 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7363: allows downloading of lists in CSV format | |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7375 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Update minimum version of Perl to 5.10 |
| 12:23 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Bug 7381 - wrong isbn showing on the staff search results |
| 12:23 | * ian.walls: Bug 7396: Debarred message not showing over SIP2 | |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7348 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, duncan, ASSIGNED , Fix error in IE where the serials toolbar buttons do not show. |
| 12:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7356 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, marc, RESOLVED FIXED, Fix various typos and mis-spellings | |
| 12:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7360 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Importing a SQL file for frameworks based on Default Framework deletes the default framework | |
| 12:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7363 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, adrien.saurat, ASSIGNED , Downloading a list in CSV format doesn't work | |
| 12:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7381 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , wrong isbn showing on the staff search results | |
| 12:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7396 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Debarred message not displayed over SIP2 | |
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| 13:22 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 13:23 | kf | hi Oak :) |
| 13:23 | jcamins_away | Oak. oleonard. kf. Everyone else. |
| 13:23 | jcamins | kf: I'm supposed to remind you something. |
| 13:32 | Oak | hello kf :) |
| 13:33 | jcamins. | |
| 13:33 | wahanui | jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
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| 13:40 | schuster | Ola! everyone! it's happy Friday for me! |
| 13:41 | Going into a 3 day weekend with Martin Luther King day on Monday... | |
| 13:42 | Anyone else going to be at ALA Midwinter next weekend? Jan 20-21? | |
| 13:42 | oleonard | Some ByWater folks I'll wager. |
| 13:43 | kf | paul_p: I noticed lots of bugs needs testing for unimarc - is there a test database somehwere? |
| 13:43 | paul_p: some unimarc test data would be great, records at least | |
| 13:43 | hi oleonard :) | |
| 13:44 | paul_p | kf, I have a large (20k record) unimarc database I use for my tests. |
| 13:44 | schuster | Yep ByWater++ |
| 13:48 | kf | paul_p: could you provide that somewhere for download? |
| 13:49 | paul_p | kf, if will be in my sandbox system. That's a good idea though = I think i've anonymized it, but a 2nd look would be great. |
| 13:49 | kf, I propose to give it to you privately now, and, if you confirm there is no more emails/phone/..., then i'll be able to use it | |
| 13:50 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7442] Crash when selecting an authority with 200$x or 200$y <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7442> |
| 13:50 | paul_p | kf, sounds like a plan ? |
| 13:50 | kf | if that's ok for you |
| 13:50 | I can check | |
| 14:03 | schuster | I thought chris_n was gathering data of this nature for "testing" things just like this? |
| 14:04 | oleonard | This is unimarc schuster |
| 14:04 | schuster | Yeah, but I thought he was trying to gather data to have for testing unimarc etc... never mind I'll leave it alone. |
| 14:05 | Just wondering out loud on a Friday. | |
| 14:05 | oleonard | Maybe so schuster |
| 14:06 | jcamins | schuster: I think paul_p's dataset is the UNIMARC test data that chris_n was hoping to use. |
| 14:06 | * oleonard | is out of the loop |
| 14:15 | kf | can someone confirm that notifys is no longer used? (database table) |
| 14:18 | tcohen | is there a reason not to split things like additem.pl into item_edit.pl item_add.pl etc? |
| 14:18 | kf | hm perhaps because they use the same template? not sure that is a reason though |
| 14:20 | tcohen | i have some noise in my brain with all this giant front scripts that happen to have a big if, elsif |
| 14:21 | jcamins | tcohen: no reason I can think of, but better to ask someone else. |
| 14:22 | oleonard | Is there any place in Koha where the edit script is separate from the add script? |
| 14:22 | jcamins | oleonard: probably not, but it might be a good idea if it were. tcohen has a point about massive if-elsif blocks. |
| 14:23 | kf | hm not that I am aware of |
| 14:23 | wahanui | i already had it that way, kf. |
| 14:23 | jcamins | hm? |
| 14:23 | kf | hm |
| 14:23 | hehe | |
| 14:23 | jcamins | hm not that I? |
| 14:23 | hm not that kf? | |
| 14:23 | wahanui | not that kf is, like, aware of |
| 14:23 | kf | ok? |
| 14:23 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 14:23 | wahanui: forget hm not that kf | |
| 14:23 | wahanui | jcamins, I didn't have anything matching hm not that kf |
| 14:23 | jcamins | wahanui: forget not that kf |
| 14:23 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot not that kf |
| 14:23 | jcamins | hm not that kf? |
| 14:23 | Fixed. | |
| 14:24 | kf | thank you :) |
| 14:27 | paul_p | kf, I try to send a sqldump to a place you could upload it, but I have some problems... |
| 14:27 | kf | hm |
| 14:27 | paul_p | seems my webdav link does not work... |
| 14:27 | kf | printers still used? |
| 14:27 | paul_p | i'll let you know when it's OK, probably by mail |
| 14:27 | kf | ok |
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| 14:40 | kf | ok |
| 14:40 | any opinion on the table printers? | |
| 14:41 | oleonard | I know the section of the template that used to display a printer chooser has been commented out for quite a while now |
| 14:42 | kf | oleonard: yep, I think it could be related to the feature |
| 14:42 | but was not sure if it's perhaps used for label printing | |
| 14:42 | it has printername, printqueue and printtype | |
| 14:43 | oleonard | /cgi-bin/koha/admin/printers.pl |
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| 14:45 | oleonard | kf: I'd say all that stuff can be removed (the table, the admin script, the references in selectbranchprinter.pl) |
| 14:45 | kf | ok |
| 14:45 | I will add notifys and printers to the db schema bugs page | |
| 14:45 | as candidates for removal | |
| 14:45 | * oleonard | waves from out on the end of this limb |
| 14:45 | kf | but I found out what alert is used for :) |
| 14:46 | huh? | |
| 14:46 | oleonard | From the phrase "to go out on a limb," take a risk. |
| 14:47 | kf | hmm |
| 14:47 | sorry, don't get it | |
| 14:52 | schuster | kf oleonard - seems like printers also has something to do with when you "set" your library doesn't it? Just something rolling around in the back of my brain about that. |
| 14:52 | oleonard | Yeah, the printer selection used to be on the same page as the branch selection |
| 14:53 | Hence selectbranchprinter.pl | |
| 14:53 | kf | yep |
| 14:53 | but it's been gone for a long time now | |
| 14:53 | I think perhaps 3.0/3.2? | |
| 14:53 | oleonard | And it only worked with UNIX printers? |
| 14:53 | schuster | Ah well as long wiping things out doesn't break that funcationality I don't have a problem with it! It was before my time so pre 3.0! |
| 14:53 | oleonard | Something like that. rangi would remember. |
| 14:54 | magnuse | getting rid of obsolete code FTW! |
| 14:54 | schuster | AH the historical community remembrance... one of the MANY reasons we like to keep rangi around! |
| 14:55 | jcamins must have started something with that noZebra discussion yesterday! | |
| 14:55 | jcamins | Hooray! |
| 14:55 | kf | hehe |
| 14:56 | make it work or get rid of it | |
| 14:56 | anyone fond of ethnotes and ethnicity? | |
| 14:56 | asaurat | :D |
| 14:56 | kf | it's in borrowers and we also have a table called ethnicity... |
| 14:56 | * magnuse | always wonderes why they are there |
| 14:57 | kf | I didn't care |
| 14:57 | asaurat | surprised me first time I saw this =) |
| 14:57 | magnuse | wow, a whole table? |
| 14:57 | kf | but for the privacy documents I have to state we don't use them... |
| 14:57 | oleonard | Everyone is surprised by the ethnicity table, but it was a requirement in NZ |
| 14:57 | I don't know if that has changed or not | |
| 14:57 | magnuse | would be interesting to know |
| 14:59 | kf | ok |
| 14:59 | added my suspects to the wiki :) | |
| 15:00 | Guest23874 | oh hlt uses printers |
| 15:00 | oleonard | Oh yeah, still? |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | afaik |
| 15:01 | rangi would know for sure, but the last time I did anything with set library I was reminded of this fact | |
| 15:01 | which wasn't all that long ago | |
| 15:01 | 6mo maybe? | |
| 15:02 | LibreOffice++ for opening xlsx | |
| 15:02 | kf | hm |
| 15:02 | perhaps he can make it work then? | |
| 15:02 | because at the moment I see no way to use it | |
| 15:11 | schuster | jcamins - what are your thoughts on RDA and Koha? |
| 15:11 | Or if you have posted if you want to point me there... | |
| 15:12 | jcamins | schuster: We've got a bit of work ahead of us. |
| 15:13 | schuster | I think in the whole community not just Koha... I don't want Koha though to be thought of "oh that doesn't handle RDA" so ignore it. |
| 15:13 | jcamins | Right. |
| 15:14 | schuster | I'm still a little baffled on how it would "look" in Koha... Conceptually. |
| 15:14 | kf | does someone know what reserveconstraints does? |
| 15:15 | * jcamins | sneezes a lot. |
| 15:15 | kf | :( |
| 15:15 | jcamins | I hate colds. |
| 15:15 | * kf | hands you paper tissues |
| 15:15 | schuster | Zinc tablets... |
| 15:15 | jcamins | schuster: well, record linking is going to be a much bigger issue. |
| 15:17 | That's really what RDA is all about. | |
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| 15:21 | schuster | jcamins yes and the work you are doing is a great step forward in that... |
| 15:23 | jcamins - in your work with marc export - did you set it to NOT export the $9 in the authority fields? | |
| 15:23 | jcamins | schuster: yeah, it's a start. We also need relationships between bibs to be more meaningful. |
| 15:23 | schuster: that is an option now. kf did a follow-up patch. | |
| 15:23 | (that puts it in the UI) | |
| 15:24 | gmcharlt | @quote get 123 |
| 15:24 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 15:25 | jcamins | schuster: bug 7392 adds the system preference. |
| 15:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7392 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add system preference to configure export options for OPAC detail page |
| 15:25 | jcamins | schuster: the other thing that I think is critical is relator terms. |
| 15:26 | We don't do a thing with them now, and they're in many ways the raison d'etre for RDA. | |
| 15:26 | * jcamins | reflects on the importance of RDA as distilled in that statement. |
| 15:26 | jcamins | Seems accurate, no? |
| 15:32 | schuster | jcamins yes relator terms are very important, but how those links would be created... I see lots of work reflecting on existing data in order to make it work. Very little machine automation. |
| 15:32 | Watching the RDA-Toolkit presentation webinar from November. | |
| 15:34 | jcamins | schuster: It's a problem, but we could at least make some use of relator terms that we do have. |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt: around? | |
| 15:42 | gmcharlt | jcamins: yes |
| 15:42 | jcamins | gmcharlt: is there a way to delete the _last_ subfield from a MARC::Field object? |
| 15:44 | rhcl | Raison d'être, a Swedish dark-ambient-industrial-drone music project de wikipedia |
| 15:49 | kf | wizzyrea: around? |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | i am |
| 15:49 | sup | |
| 15:49 | kf | I think he did it |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | for the slips |
| 15:49 | kf | Srdjan: I have changed slip printing so branch is taken from the session. |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | not for the notices |
| 15:49 | kf | ah |
| 15:49 | but notices are sent out later - I think the staff member is not interesting there probably? | |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | slips = probably 80% of that problem though |
| 15:50 | kf | moe where the checkout has happened? |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | yea, it's for a different bug though |
| 15:50 | kf | ok |
| 15:50 | only wondering :) | |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | but thank you for helping me convince him :) |
| 15:51 | kf | np - I totally agree it should be that way |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | if you can imagine - a library system where all staff members have a home library of "Central office" but they all have set libraries of the branch they are att |
| 15:51 | all of the email notices for checkout would come from "Central office" | |
| 15:51 | = uh bad. | |
| 15:51 | kf | I can see people working at different branches here |
| 15:51 | for public libraries, half time there, half time there | |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | but - that is not how *most* places do it |
| 15:52 | kf | no |
| 15:52 | edge case? | |
| 15:52 | perhaps | |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | the situation you just enumerated is the other situation |
| 15:52 | that this would come into play | |
| 15:52 | making the set library follow the home library would be one way to handle it | |
| 15:52 | for "staff" class patrons | |
| 15:52 | s/accounts/patrons/ | |
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| 15:53 | gmcharlt | jcamins: awkwardly, but yes |
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | at the very least document that there is a difference |
| 15:53 | gmcharlt | $field->delete_subfield(code => ['a', 'b', ..., 'z', '0', '1', ... '9']) |
| 15:54 | wizzyrea | it had never occurred to me that *anything* would pull from the home library of the logged in user, instead of the set library |
| 15:54 | jcamins | gmcharlt: but how do we make sure that's the very last subfield? |
| 15:54 | wizzyrea | makes perfect sense to do that on the staff side |
| 15:54 | er | |
| 15:54 | OPAC | |
| 15:54 | but of course there is no "set library" on the opac. | |
| 15:54 | * wizzyrea | stops talking now |
| 15:55 | gmcharlt | jcamins: $listref = $marc->subfields(); @$listref == 0 |
| 15:55 | jcamins | gmcharlt: sorry, badly worded question. |
| 15:55 | gmcharlt | jcamins: right, sorry, the light is dawning |
| 15:56 | jcamins | gmcharlt: if I have the following field: =650 ##$aSubject$y19th century$vJuvenile fiction |
| 15:56 | I want to delete the subfield $v. | |
| 16:02 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7434] Display of issue number for serials in overdues <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7434> |
| 16:03 | gmcharlt | $sfs = $field->subfields(); pop @$sfs; $field->replace_with(MARC::Field->new($field->tag, $field->indicator(1), $field->indicator(2), map { $_[0] => $_[1] } @$sfs)); |
| 16:03 | ... or something like that | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Ah. Thanks. |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt++ : lordie you're brilliant. |
| 16:04 | jcamins | I would not have worked that out. |
| 16:04 | gmcharlt | cleaner would be a patch to MARC::Field->delete_subfields() to let it be called with only the pos parameter |
| 16:05 | kf | wizzyrea: making them follow seems difficult to me - requires database updates each time you change the library, not logging out... when will the library be reset? and so on |
| 16:06 | oleonard | paul_p: I attached a rebased patch to Bug 7127, don't know if you want to wait for another signoff or not... |
| 16:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Templates must be valid XHTML |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | well yea, I was trying to think of a way to fix it so that anything that required home library wouldn't break |
| 16:06 | paul_p | oleonard, no, I just want the answer to my question to chris (ie= is there a unit test), but that does not prevent me from pushing ! |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | but it would be easier to just make everything follow set library, imo |
| 16:07 | * paul_p | pushes 929, then head to 7430, then 7127 ... |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | finding all the things is the challenge there |
| 16:07 | oleonard | paul_p: I would be interested in the answer to that too! I always test from the browser, which isn't practical for the RM |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | frankly I was surprised to find that *anything* even *considered* the home library of the logged in patron |
| 16:08 | I made a (bad) assumption that it all followed set library | |
| 16:08 | kf | hmno |
| 16:08 | not bad at all | |
| 16:08 | it should be consistent :P | |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | (for the staff client - it makes perfect sense to do that in the OPAC) |
| 16:08 | well yes | |
| 16:08 | :) | |
| 16:09 | jcamins | paul_p: don't push 7430! |
| 16:09 | paul_p | yikes ! SQL query directly in a .pl ! I missed it & sekjal missed it too !!! it's forbidden ! 929 failed QA ! |
| 16:09 | jcamins, I haven't said i'll push it, i'm heading to test & check it. | |
| 16:09 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 16:09 | Good. | |
| 16:09 | Carry on. | |
| 16:10 | Looking at it is exactly what I was hoping for. :) | |
| 16:10 | kf | paul_p: *sigh* |
| 16:10 | paul_p: you are aware we do that in other places too? | |
| 16:10 | like reports? | |
| 16:10 | and it's basically a report | |
| 16:10 | no updates or changes | |
| 16:10 | only display | |
| 16:10 | jcamins | It won't apply cleanly right now. I'll send a revised patch once you look at it and tell me it's not a totally dumb idea. |
| 16:11 | Or, you know, I won't send a revised patch if you tell me it is a totally dumb idea. ;) | |
| 16:12 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7175] Improve order receiving page <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7175> / [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127> |
| 16:12 | * wizzyrea | does not recall jcamins ever having a *totally* dumb idea |
| 16:12 | jcamins | wizzyrea: did you look at bug 7430? |
| 16:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio |
| 16:13 | * oleonard | remembers that one time jcamins let a pigeon drive the bus... |
| 16:13 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 16:13 | schuster | LOL! Not the PIGEON! |
| 16:13 | jcamins | What can I say? It seemed like a good idea at the time. |
| 16:16 | kf | paul_p: still around? :) |
| 16:16 | paul_p | kf, yes. and that's bad. for a totally new script, I don't think it must be accepted. |
| 16:16 | kf, yes. | |
| 16:16 | kf | it's nto totally new |
| 16:16 | it was deleted | |
| 16:16 | by biblibre | |
| 16:16 | and chris brought it back | |
| 16:16 | paul_p | really ? we deleted a script ? |
| 16:16 | kf | big regression when introducing new acq |
| 16:16 | i have pointed that out like forever... and it worried me a lot | |
| 16:16 | paul_p | (I even didn't knew it has ever be here) |
| 16:17 | kf | it's a long time now |
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| 16:18 | oleonard | Can you git blame a specific commit, or tag, or something? |
| 16:18 | kf | that's long ago |
| 16:18 | I can try | |
| 16:19 | onyl saying it's not a new feature | |
| 16:19 | it's regression fixing | |
| 16:20 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a8b081658c3a8140f | |
| 16:25 | other traces of the feature: | |
| 16:25 | bug 2703 | |
| 16:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2703 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Clicking Spent on Budget Shows Nothing |
| 16:25 | kf | bug 3080 |
| 16:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3080 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, RESOLVED INVALID, "spent" of budget and funds doesn't work |
| 16:27 | kf | paul_p: it was there when I first showed acq to a library... in dec 2008(?) I think - they loved it and have been asking for it ever since |
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| 16:32 | paul_p | kf, OK, i'll push, but not because it's a kind of stat, where SQL is OK, but because it reintroduces a file that has been removed, and the file had the mistake |
| 16:33 | i'll also ask chris for a kind follow-up ;-) | |
| 16:33 | kf | paul_p: still very glad |
| 16:33 | :) | |
| 16:33 | thank you | |
| 16:33 | magnuse | yay |
| 16:33 | kf | I think a lot of those report pages could be rebuilt better |
| 16:33 | mos tof them are not really accurate :( | |
| 16:35 | andnow time for weekend :) | |
| 16:35 | bye all! | |
| 16:37 | magnuse | bya kf |
| 16:38 | kf left #koha | |
| 16:39 | Oak | magnuse |
| 16:39 | magnuse | Oak |
| 16:46 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:46 | wizzyrea | bye |
| 16:46 | never fast enough. | |
| 16:52 | magnuse | oops. choose another language than english in the opac. go to tag cloud. click on a tag. "Language 'sv-se' does not exist" (for example) |
| 16:54 | tcohen | http://owni.eu/2010/12/15/stil[…]ife-bent-objects/ |
| 16:54 | magnuse | hm, works in 3.4.6, not in 3.6.2 |
| 16:54 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_929' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1c058939c8cb76bf0> / Bug 929 small follow-up (mistake in POD) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7c0db99a0169980b2> / Bug 929 : Follow up adding unit tests, discovered C4::Dates cached the syspref with... <http://git.koha-community.org/ |
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| 16:57 | paul_p | leaving now, see you next week #koha !!! |
| 16:57 | magnuse | have fun paul_p! |
| 16:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #588 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:03 | tcohen | bye paul_p |
| 17:08 | jcamins | Anyone around who knows about editing system preferences? |
| 17:08 | I mean, the descriptions. | |
| 17:08 | magnuse | jcamins: ask, don't ask to ask ;-) |
| 17:09 | jcamins | Never mind, I figured it out. |
| 17:09 | magnuse | yay! |
| 17:09 | jcamins | I was taking screenshots to explain my problem. |
| 17:09 | It turns out you can't include a : in descriptions. | |
| 17:12 | Okay... that's odd. | |
| 17:12 | Don't use split '|' | |
| 17:12 | magnuse | which description? in the .conf file? |
| 17:12 | jcamins | .pref. |
| 17:13 | magnuse | ah yes, sorry |
| 17:13 | jcamins | If you want to split on '|' use split /\|/ |
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| 17:17 | cait | back |
| 17:17 | jcamins | Bother. I'm using MARC::Field::subfields() wrong. |
| 17:22 | Oak | welcomen back cait :) |
| 17:22 | and good night... | |
| 17:24 | cait | oh |
| 17:26 | magnuse | ? |
| 17:26 | * magnuse | wanders off to make pizza (and bread) |
| 17:50 | tcohen | which perlcritic level should we use? |
| 17:51 | * oleonard | imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel |
| 17:51 | * wizzyrea | laughs |
| 17:51 | * jcamins | imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf. |
| 17:51 | magnus_afk | "all Perl submitted must validate perlcritic (level 5, the lowest one)" http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 17:52 | tcohen | thanks magnus_afk |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | @quote add *oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel *jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf. |
| 17:52 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #181 added. |
| 17:52 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #588: UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/588/ |
| 17:52 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Reinstating the breakdown of budgets | |
| 17:52 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Follow up, making some improvements to the spent page More to come | |
| 17:52 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Last follow up, implementing the last of Katrins suggestions | |
| 17:52 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Followup fixing date formatting | |
| 17:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=929 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , See details of a budget |
| 17:52 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 929: Follow up - showing fund code instead of internal number |
| 17:52 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 7240: Cleaning up import tables and action_logs | |
| 17:52 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 929: Follow up adding the Koha:: namespace to the list of modules to test | |
| 17:52 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Follow up adding unit tests, discovered C4::Dates cached the syspref with no way to clear it, fixed also. | |
| 17:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7240 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Cleaning up import tables and action_logs |
| 17:52 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Bug 929 small follow-up (mistake in POD) |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | perlcritic level is <reply> "all Perl submitted must validate perlcritic (level 5, the lowest one)" http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 17:52 | perlcritic level? | |
| 17:52 | wahanui | "all Perl submitted must validate perlcritic (level 5, the lowest one)" http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | unstable WHAT |
| 17:53 | templates tests :( | |
| 17:54 | jcamins | Alas. Well, at least I didn't have a patch go in for the last build. |
| 17:54 | :P | |
| 17:54 | cait | and it's 929 |
| 17:54 | *sigh* | |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | doh |
| 17:54 | cait | yeah |
| 17:54 | doh | |
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| 18:00 | tcohen | bye, have a nice weekend |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | bye |
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| 18:22 | rangi | ahh its not a real error, just complaining it cant find the plugin, ill fix the test |
| 18:23 | cait | ah cool :) |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | and good morning |
| 18:23 | rangi | morning |
| 18:24 | my $tt = Template->new({ABSOLUTE => 1, INCLUDE_PATH => $includes }); | |
| 18:24 | doesn't have the path for where plugins live | |
| 18:24 | cait | and morning :) |
| 18:24 | jcamins | rangi: morning. I guess the world gets through Friday the thirteenth? |
| 18:24 | rangi | needs PLUGIN_BASE => 'Koha::Template::Plugin', |
| 18:24 | yep it does :) | |
| 18:24 | cait | oh |
| 18:25 | didn't even notice | |
| 18:25 | jcamins | cait: yep, and the full moon was this week, too. |
| 18:26 | (I just had to look that up... I didn't know that off the top of my head) | |
| 18:27 | @wunder 11375 | |
| 18:27 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 0.6°C (1:03 PM EST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa. Wind Advisory in effect until midnight EST tonight... |
| 18:28 | cait | that explains... |
| 18:28 | hm... not much really | |
| 18:28 | jcamins | cait: I thought it might. |
| 18:28 | ... oh. | |
| 18:28 | ;) | |
| 18:30 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 18:30 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 14, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:31 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:31 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.4°C (7:29 PM CET on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:34 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 929] See details of a budget <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=929> | |
| 18:35 | rangi | look |
| 18:35 | and easy peasy sign off | |
| 18:35 | just run the test, then apply the patch and run it again | |
| 18:35 | cait | :) |
| 18:35 | I will do it | |
| 18:35 | in a minute | |
| 18:39 | rangi | yay! |
| 18:40 | jcamins | rangi: how do I write a test for something in the Koha:: namespace. |
| 18:40 | I mean, where does the file go. | |
| 18:41 | The one for Koha::Cache is just t/Cache. | |
| 18:42 | rangi | what i did for 929 |
| 18:42 | jcamins | I need to write tests for Koha::Search and Koha::Search::Engine. |
| 18:42 | rangi | Koha_template_plugin_KohaDates.t |
| 18:42 | so | |
| 18:42 | jcamins | Okay, thanks. |
| 18:42 | rangi | Koha_Search.t |
| 18:42 | in that case | |
| 18:42 | jcamins | Koha_Search.t and Koha_Search_Engine.t. |
| 18:42 | rangi | i just made it up, but it seems to work |
| 18:42 | :) | |
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| 18:45 | * jcamins | learns about the grep function. |
| 18:46 | rangi | git grep? or perl grep? |
| 18:46 | both cool | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | Perl grep. |
| 18:47 | Whoah! | |
| 18:47 | * jcamins | just learned about git grep. |
| 18:47 | cait | woah? |
| 18:47 | jcamins | Like "Wow!" only with a different vowel. |
| 18:48 | cait | hehe |
| 18:48 | I know that | |
| 18:48 | but wanted to know what's so awesome about git grep :) | |
| 18:48 | jcamins | Did you know about git grep? |
| 18:48 | cait | nope |
| 18:56 | jcamins | Hrm. Why didn't this work? |
| 18:56 | ok(grep {$_ eq 'Search'} @indexes, "Search engine supports Subject index"); | |
| 18:58 | rangi | it will hand back an array |
| 18:58 | grep that is | |
| 18:59 | @foo = grep(!/^#/, @bar); | |
| 18:59 | huginn | rangi: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 18:59 | rangi | heh |
| 18:59 | and @foo != "a string" | |
| 19:00 | jcamins | Hm. Okay, how do I do it properly? |
| 19:00 | This doesn't work either: ok(exists {map { $_ => 1 } @indexes}->{'Subject'}, "Search engine supports Subject index"); | |
| 19:01 | rangi | @later tell paul_p bug 929 template tests patch signed off |
| 19:01 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:01 | jcamins | And the array does include 'Subject' |
| 19:02 | rangi | but |
| 19:02 | ok(grep {$_ eq 'Search'} @indexes, "Search engine supports Subject index"); | |
| 19:02 | looking for search? | |
| 19:02 | jcamins | Subject. |
| 19:03 | I changed it to Subject. | |
| 19:03 | Sorry 'bout that. | |
| 19:03 | rangi | and its the only element ? |
| 19:03 | jcamins | No, there are lots of elements. |
| 19:03 | That's one of them. | |
| 19:03 | rangi | returned by the grep i mean |
| 19:03 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:03 | No, the grep doesn't work. | |
| 19:03 | rangi | grep always returns an array |
| 19:04 | try this | |
| 19:04 | my @resutlt = grep(/Subject/, @indexes); | |
| 19:05 | but without typoes | |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Right. |
| 19:05 | rangi | and look in @result |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Hmmm... that doesn't seem to be working either. |
| 19:06 | Odd. I see the 'Subject' entry in the @indexes array. | |
| 19:07 | Well, clearly this is the problem. | |
| 19:14 | No luck. Oh well. | |
| 19:16 | rangi | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]588/HTML_Report/? <-- we got up to 51% subroutine coverage now |
| 19:18 | cait | yay :) |
| 19:18 | the modern perl has a chapter about testing :) | |
| 19:19 | * jcamins_away | takes a nap. |
| 20:01 | Soupermanito joined #koha | |
| 20:16 | jcamins | cait: so are you an expert on testing now? |
| 20:16 | cait | no |
| 20:16 | not reachedthat chapter | |
| 20:16 | only started the book this morning :) | |
| 20:16 | but already read the table of contents heh | |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Ah. What are you an expert on now? |
| 20:17 | :) | |
| 20:20 | cait | hm |
| 20:20 | I read about perldoc this morning | |
| 20:21 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 20:21 | You're our new perldoc expert! :D | |
| 20:21 | cait | hmpf |
| 20:21 | what are you trying to do here? | |
| 20:22 | jcamins | cait: I just woke up from a nap, so I'm silly. |
| 20:23 | * cait | takes a note about that fact |
| 20:23 | cait | do you have any cookies to go along with your silliness? |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Nope. :( |
| 20:24 | cait | ! |
| 20:25 | I had oreos... | |
| 20:25 | well... had. | |
| 20:45 | Culiforge | I keep gettin an error when trying to install CPAN modules... |
| 20:45 | Warning: Cannot install Memoize::Memcached::PDF::API2::Simple, don't know what it is. | |
| 20:45 | Try the command | |
| 20:45 | i /Memoize::Memcached::PDF::API2::Simple/ | |
| 20:46 | rangi | thats because those are 2 different things |
| 20:46 | Culiforge | it almost seems like a typo but then I can't say as I know what i'm talking about... I just copied it from the git tutorial |
| 20:46 | rangi | did you miss a space or something? or add extra :: |
| 20:46 | hmm | |
| 20:47 | Culiforge | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5ed0eac3c;hb=HEAD |
| 20:47 | jcamins | i Memoize::MEmcached |
| 20:47 | Culiforge | line 99 |
| 20:47 | jcamins | i PDF::API2::Simple |
| 20:47 | rangi | $ sudo cpan HTTP::OAI Locale::Currency::Format Memoize::Memcached \ PDF::API2::Simple Storable Text::CSV::Encoded |
| 20:47 | that ? | |
| 20:47 | wahanui | that is a good goal |
| 20:47 | Culiforge | yeh |
| 20:47 | yeah | |
| 20:47 | jcamins | Culiforge: you added an extra two ::s |
| 20:47 | rangi | yup |
| 20:47 | jcamins | Rather, :: or two :s |
| 20:48 | That wasn't a smiley. | |
| 20:48 | * jcamins | gives up. |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | you added two sets of colons |
| 20:48 | * wizzyrea | is not being gross |
| 20:48 | Culiforge | ok, the line numbers split the command and I guess I was thinking I was accomodating for it |
| 20:49 | rangi | yes |
| 20:49 | jcamins | Culiforge: no, the \ means that the next line is a continuation. |
| 20:49 | rangi | the \ means the command can span 2 lines |
| 20:49 | * wizzyrea | gets a coke for the first one to jinx |
| 20:50 | Culiforge | ok, I was unaware... two months using linux.. trying to pick things up tho :) |
| 20:51 | Running make test | |
| 20:51 | Can't test without successful make | |
| 20:51 | Running make install | |
| 20:51 | Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible | |
| 20:51 | jcamins | Culiforge: you have to run make first. |
| 20:52 | (and I suspect you may have missed a few other steps as well) | |
| 20:52 | rangi | or is that cpan saying that? |
| 20:52 | Culiforge | cpan |
| 20:52 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 20:52 | I see. | |
| 20:53 | Culiforge | I'm following the git tutorial line by line |
| 20:53 | schuster | I hate to say this but in the install instructions maybe that \ on broken lines needs be commented at the top? I know I had problems with it too and always was VERY literal when typing/copying at the command line |
| 20:53 | Culiforge - are you trying to get a development install or just be able to run Koha? | |
| 20:54 | Culiforge | I go t as far as Makefie.PL this morning and was told that I had cpan dependency issues |
| 20:54 | so I scrolled back and discovered problems installing that string of cpan mods | |
| 20:54 | just trying to get koha running | |
| 20:55 | rangi | here |
| 20:55 | try this | |
| 20:56 | wget http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/u[…]rl_0.03-2_all.deb | |
| 20:56 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7430] ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430> |
| 20:56 | rangi | wget http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/u[…]_1.1.4u-1_all.deb |
| 20:56 | schuster | oh they are doing Ubuntu never mind out of my knowledge base. |
| 20:56 | rangi | that will get you the packages for those 2 modules |
| 20:57 | sudo dpkg -i libmemoize-memcached-perl_0.03-2_all.deb | |
| 20:57 | sudo dpkg -i libpdf-api2-simple-perl_1.1.4u-1_all.deb | |
| 20:57 | Culiforge | hmm, shouldn't that have opened with the deb package installer? |
| 20:57 | ahh | |
| 20:57 | rangi | not if you wget it |
| 20:58 | but you could open it with the installer too if you wanted | |
| 20:58 | * rangi | never installs from cpan if i can find a package to install from instead |
| 20:58 | rangi | and since liw and eythian packaged those for debian, they are also in ubuntu |
| 21:01 | Culiforge | so I run that.... then what? back to cpan to make sure it all installed> |
| 21:01 | ? | |
| 21:01 | rangi | not cpan no |
| 21:01 | you can then run | |
| 21:02 | ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m | |
| 21:02 | (which is what the Makefile.PL does (or close to it) | |
| 21:02 | and it will tell you if you have any missing dependencies still | |
| 21:02 | if not | |
| 21:02 | perl Makefile.PL | |
| 21:03 | if you werent already halfway through installing from git, i would now tell you to just use the koha-common debian package which does all this for you and works on lucid | |
| 21:03 | Culiforge | http://pastebin.com/Diq5JWxb |
| 21:04 | I was trying to find that.... magnus suggested this was best | |
| 21:04 | rangi | you did the dpkg -i right? |
| 21:05 | Culiforge | yeah |
| 21:05 | rangi | for both? |
| 21:05 | because it looks like it only did the PDF::API one | |
| 21:05 | anyway, your real problem is Business::ISBN | |
| 21:05 | Culiforge | both... |
| 21:06 | rangi | thats the only one thats required the rest are optional |
| 21:06 | Culiforge | I did the sudo dpkg -i for =>>>http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/u[…]_1.1.4u-1_all.deb |
| 21:07 | I guess I don't understand what you mean both | |
| 21:07 | rangi | 09:57 <@rangi> sudo dpkg -i libmemoize-memcached-perl_0.03-2_all.deb |
| 21:07 | 09:57 <@rangi> sudo dpkg -i libpdf-api2-simple-perl_1.1.4u-1_all.deb | |
| 21:07 | Culiforge | yes I entered that line |
| 21:07 | rangi | both lines? |
| 21:08 | Culiforge | I'm confuddled |
| 21:08 | rangi | there are 2 lines there |
| 21:08 | you need to do, 2 wget | |
| 21:09 | then 2 dpkg -i | |
| 21:09 | after you have done those ones | |
| 21:09 | then you can do | |
| 21:09 | Culiforge | you posted the link to the deb packages.. and I downloaded it and ran sudo dpkg -i on it |
| 21:10 | rangi | i posted 2 links to 2 different packages |
| 21:10 | did you download them both | |
| 21:10 | then dpkg -i them both? | |
| 21:10 | if so then you can now do | |
| 21:10 | wget http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/u[…]rl_2.03-1_all.deb | |
| 21:10 | sudo dpkg -i libbusiness-isbn-perl_2.03-1_all.deb | |
| 21:13 | Culiforge | ok, getting somwhere... I guess I didn't see the 2nd post |
| 21:13 | http://pastebin.com/MZeypAmF | |
| 21:14 | both lines run with dpkg | |
| 21:17 | rangi | ah ha |
| 21:17 | i can fix that one | |
| 21:18 | wget http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/u[…]rl_1.17-1_all.deb | |
| 21:18 | sudo dpkg -i libbusiness-isbn-data-perl_1.17-1_all.deb | |
| 21:20 | Culiforge | ok, that was tidy |
| 21:21 | ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m shows ==> cgi::session::driver::memcached/gravatar::url/memoize::memcached missing | |
| 21:22 | and btw that's : D | |
| 21:24 | you said those were optional correct? | |
| 21:24 | rangi | yup |
| 21:24 | Culiforge | so Makefile.PL again? |
| 21:25 | rangi | yup |
| 21:32 | Culiforge | http://pastebin.com/JrHaDYpF |
| 21:32 | rangi | yep just warnings and you can safely ignore those |
| 21:33 | Culiforge | I'm always a bit itchy about ignoring warnings... :S |
| 21:33 | but ok | |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | if you were going to trust anybody, it'd be rangi. |
| 21:36 | * cait | agrees :) |
| 21:38 | rangi | on that note |
| 21:38 | you also need to send me a money order for $1,000,000 | |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | i have no doubt that you'd do something awesome with it. |
| 21:40 | Culiforge | ok, I'll send you one.. (wouldn't cash it if I were you though) |
| 21:42 | places don't like to cash MO's written on gum wrappers | |
| 21:42 | rangi | heh |
| 21:43 | Culiforge | but I'm still willin' to send it to you |
| 21:44 | thanks for all the help and handholding btw I appreciate it | |
| 21:45 | rhcl | RE: http://www.destinyexpress.com/[…]reless%20Scanner/ |
| 21:46 | This device seems to simply be running Win CE, with two custom apps, Follett Mini-Destiny and Follett Remote software. Anybody have any idea how those programs work? | |
| 21:47 | rangi | Culiforge: no worries, imho its what makes koha great is the people who use it and develop it |
| 21:47 | rhcl: hmmm nope | |
| 21:48 | rhcl | wonder if somebody like druthb might have a guess |
| 21:48 | Culiforge | rangi: and for that I'm grateful.. otherwise I'd just be a nervous twitching mess while i hand write catalog cards |
| 21:49 | rangi | where abouts in the world are you Culiforge ? |
| 21:49 | rhcl | it's much easier to print out catalog cards with a computer and printer, FWIW |
| 21:49 | Culiforge | US, Michigan |
| 21:52 | what about you? | |
| 21:52 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 21:52 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.6°C (10:49 PM CET on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:54 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 21:54 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on January 14, 2012). Conditions: . Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:00 | Culiforge | so setting up zebra as a daemon... um.. what's my {scritpt_dir} since i pretty much have the default install params |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 22:00 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 2.6°C (4:00 PM CST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | golly it's chilly |
| 22:00 | Culiforge | doh, nvm just found it |
| 22:02 | jcamins | You know what this world needs? |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | more cookies? |
| 22:02 | jcamins | That's a good idea too. |
| 22:02 | I was thinking more people like River Tam. | |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | baling wire and duct tape? |
| 22:04 | rangi | heh |
| 22:06 | Culiforge | do I need to use the scroll brackets in this statement==> sudo ln -s ${SCRIPT_DIR}/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
| 22:06 | rangi | you should substitute the actual path in there |
| 22:06 | Culiforge | without brackets correct? |
| 22:07 | rangi | correct and without the $ |
| 22:07 | Culiforge | ahh, that's my problem... (amongst others) |
| 22:07 | rangi | so something like /home/your_user/koha-dev/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh |
| 22:07 | (or similar) | |
| 22:08 | Culiforge | so default path in statement should look==> sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
| 22:09 | rangi | that looks about right to me |
| 22:10 | Culiforge | ok, I run sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults and get.. |
| 22:10 | update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist | |
| 22:12 | ok, anyway. I have to go.. supper time.. thanks again for the assistance. | |
| 22:13 | rangi | hmm that libeo request looks fine to me |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | *nod* was going to check their website |
| 22:14 | and yea, looks ok to me | |
| 22:16 | rangi | yup |
| 22:16 | links back nice and prominent | |
| 22:24 | schuster | @wunder 75074 |
| 22:24 | huginn | schuster: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 13.2°C (4:19 PM CST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:25 | schuster | Warmer than wizzyrea at least... Have a great weekend everyone!! |
| 22:26 | rangi | cya schuster |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 22:27 | jcamins | A lot warmer than here, I think. |
| 22:27 | @wunder 11375 | |
| 22:27 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is -1.1°C (5:03 PM EST on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa. Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... |
| 22:27 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 22:32 | schuster | brrr... ok by! Three day weekend here I come! |
| 22:33 | magnus_afk | @wunder boo |
| 22:33 | huginn | magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (11:20 PM CET on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:33 | jcamins | It's colder in NYC? |
| 22:33 | Weird. | |
| 22:33 | magnus_afk | moahaha! |
| 22:37 | g'night #koha | |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | gnite magnus_afk |
| 22:53 | maximep left #koha | |
| 23:00 | rhcl left #koha | |
| 23:47 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7143] Bug for tracking changes to the about page <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143> |
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