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| 00:00 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: Shari got her Transformer tablet. She's very excited. |
| 00:00 | Looks like you steered her right. :) | |
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| 03:27 | AmitG | heya bag |
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| 03:55 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 04:30 | bag | hey yo AmitG |
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| 04:40 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 04:42 | Oak | good morning miss cait :) |
| 04:43 | cait | hi mr Oak :) |
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| 07:05 | rangi | evening |
| 07:05 | Oak | morning |
| 07:05 | :) | |
| 07:06 | cait | wb rangi :) |
| 07:13 | ibeardslee | good break? I see that you came back with all the kids ;) |
| 07:16 | rangi | it was tempting by waiouru to just leave htem there :-) |
| 07:16 | was a good break tho | |
| 07:22 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 07:22 | rangi | heya magnuse |
| 07:22 | wahanui | magnuse is, like, afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza |
| 07:22 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:22 | rangi | quick better put that on wikipedia |
| 07:22 | magnuse | hiya rangi |
| 07:28 | hehe | |
| 07:30 | cait | morning magnuse :) |
| 07:30 | magnuse | ach ja, guten morgen fräulein cait |
| 07:30 | cait | lol |
| 07:31 | magnuse | or fraülein? nah looks wrong |
| 07:32 | alex_a | hello ! |
| 07:32 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a! |
| 07:32 | rangi | heya alex_a |
| 07:34 | cait | fräulein if you really want to use that term |
| 07:34 | magnuse | i do, i do! |
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| 07:35 | marcelr | hello koha |
| 07:35 | magnuse | ;-) |
| 07:35 | hiya marcelr | |
| 07:35 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:35 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 28.82 in 976 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:35 | rangi | hi marcelr :) |
| 07:35 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 07:35 | and rangi | |
| 07:35 | cait | hi marcelr |
| 07:36 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 07:40 | cait | marcelr: I saw yesterday that the sru patch is stuck with a unimarc problem |
| 07:40 | marcelr | yes true |
| 07:41 | i asked jonathan to look for a newer version of xslt file | |
| 07:41 | it came from biblibre | |
| 07:42 | cait | ah |
| 07:42 | he noted on the bug he will have no time to debug | |
| 07:42 | marcelr | if he doesnt find it, maybe i split the patch |
| 07:42 | cait | I see he tried with swb (our catalog) |
| 07:45 | not sure what the problem is though | |
| 07:45 | hm - would love to see this feature | |
| 07:45 | especially the option to change the records using xslt | |
| 07:45 | ok, time for work | |
| 07:46 | bbiab | |
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| 07:51 | magnuse | kia ora hdl |
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| 07:52 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:53 | julian_m | hello |
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| 08:01 | rangi | hmm i just found a bug |
| 08:02 | use vars qw($prefformat); | |
| 08:02 | ||
| 08:02 | sub _prefformat { | |
| 08:02 | unless ( defined $prefformat ) { | |
| 08:02 | $prefformat = C4::Context->preference('dateformat'); | |
| 08:02 | } | |
| 08:02 | return $prefformat; | |
| 08:02 | } | |
| 08:02 | fine under cgi ... bad under persistance, nothing clears that var when the syspref changes | |
| 08:02 | matts | hi #koha ! |
| 08:03 | magnuse | rangi: ouch! |
| 08:03 | rangi | hi matts |
| 08:04 | yep, we have a few of those, its why we cant just do what liblime did, and switch on plack, or it ends up broken like theirs | |
| 08:05 | magnuse | way to go... |
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| 08:08 | kf | back |
| 08:08 | magnuse | willkommen zurück, kf |
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| 08:08 | kf | magnuse: you scare me a little bit |
| 08:09 | magnuse: trying to learn german again? | |
| 08:09 | asaurat | boo |
| 08:09 | did I scare you yoo ? :D | |
| 08:09 | kf | nope |
| 08:09 | asaurat | hi ! |
| 08:09 | kf | heh |
| 08:09 | morning asaurat | |
| 08:09 | :) | |
| 08:09 | magnuse | kf: it's all coming back to me now... |
| 08:10 | rangi | hi kf |
| 08:10 | kf | heya rangi |
| 08:11 | magnuse: ohoh | |
| 08:12 | magnuse | the horror... |
| 08:12 | kf | yeah, learning german would do that |
| 08:15 | asaurat | Freizugigkeitsbescheinigung |
| 08:16 | (first word I learnt in Deutschland after "hallo" und "bier") | |
| 08:16 | magnuse | nothing against german per se, just that memories of learning it in school are less than fond... :-) |
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| 08:25 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
| 08:26 | kf | asaurat: that's a hard one |
| 08:29 | asaurat | oh, btw, is this colorful island near Konstanz worth the entry fee? :D |
| 08:29 | I saw it while on the boat to Konstanz and the flyers look gorgeous :D but didn't take the time to go there | |
| 08:33 | the island of Mainau | |
| 08:34 | kf | hm yes |
| 08:34 | it's worth a visit | |
| 08:34 | :) | |
| 08:35 | if you like flowers, plants and gardens :) | |
| 08:35 | asaurat | voll mit Blumen :D |
| 08:35 | kf | yep |
| 08:35 | it's the blumeninsel | |
| 08:35 | asaurat | for this price they could add a dinosaur or two |
| 08:35 | kf | lol |
| 08:36 | it's a bit cheaper in the eveinngs | |
| 08:36 | evenings | |
| 08:36 | and a ticket for a full year is quite inexpensive | |
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| 08:42 | rangi | wb paul_p and hi julian_m_ |
| 08:42 | kf | hi paul_p and julian_m |
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| 08:59 | kf | meeting time |
| 08:59 | rangi | hmm is it international do things the hard way day? |
| 08:59 | magnuse | lol |
| 09:00 | rangi | lets install and old version of koha, ignore the instructions saying postgres support is expiremental and wont work |
| 09:01 | magnuse | otherwise it might be too easy... |
| 09:05 | rangi | :) |
| 09:07 | magnuse | especially with the packages - where's the fun in using them? :-) |
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| 10:30 | mcmx_ | Hi all, i'm trying to set up LDAP (Active Directory) on Koha however when i try and login with a valid AD account i get a 500 and "Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date" in the log, any ideas? Many Thanks |
| 10:47 | Culiforge | Could someone point me to a good and simple tutorial for installing Koha on 10.04? I'm about 2 months using Linux and need a little hand holding :) |
| 10:47 | ubuntu 10.04 that is... | |
| 10:48 | magnuse | Culiforge: the official and quality controlled install instructions are in the INSTALL.* files that come with Koha. see http://git.koha-community.org/[…]it;a=tree;hb=HEAD |
| 10:49 | there is one called INSTALL.ubuntu.lucid | |
| 10:50 | there are also PPAs for ubuntu here: https://launchpad.net/~koha | |
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| 11:03 | Culiforge | magnuse: right, thank you, I'm checking it out now |
| 11:37 | magnuse: during the install when I run 'install_misc/ubuntu-pkg-check.sh | grep none', those results are what I need to manually install correct? | |
| 11:38 | magnuse | yep |
| 11:39 | but note the bit about newer packages maybe getting installed, just below that command in the INSTALL file | |
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| 11:41 | Culiforge | yes, saw that. so it tells me libmysqlclient16-dev depends on libmysqlclient-dev so I need to install the latter then the foremer? |
| 11:42 | grep did not return any info on libmsql...16 | |
| 11:49 | magnuse | hm, not sure about the specifics there |
| 11:49 | Culiforge | hmm, tracing back dependencies I get=> zlib1g-dev: |
| 11:49 | Depends: zlib1g (=1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-15ubuntu1) but 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 is to be installed | |
| 11:50 | sorry, this is greek | |
| 11:50 | magnuse | for me too... |
| 11:50 | Culiforge | hehe |
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| 11:50 | magnuse | mysql shouldn't be too hard to get running, though |
| 11:51 | could it be that you have it and the check is looking for an older version? | |
| 11:51 | Culiforge | pretty sure dselect already installed mysql |
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| 11:51 | Culiforge | I did the grep command for libmysql16-dev and it started kicking back dependency issues at that point |
| 11:55 | magnuse | sorry, gotta run |
| 12:01 | Culiforge | can anyone else assist me with the difference between 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-15ubuntu1 and 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3? |
| 12:02 | of course i may not be looking at the right solution... | |
| 12:03 | slef | @query koha-create |
| 12:03 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6913 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, NEW , Improving koha-list and koha-create |
| 12:03 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4226 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl doesn't replace 001 when keepids is not specified | |
| 12:03 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6797 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Make koha-create more verbose | |
| 12:03 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6798 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Make koha-create send email with details of created site | |
| 12:03 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4875 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-remove, koha-restore should have options similar to --request-db | |
| 12:03 | slef | Culiforge: give me a mo to look at recent messages here so I can see what the problem is? |
| 12:05 | Culiforge: if you "aptitude install libmysql16-dev" it should get whatever dependencies it needs. What installation command were you running? | |
| 12:15 | updated bug 7428 because a client just hit it | |
| 12:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7428 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-create should check for length of instancename |
| 12:16 | Culiforge | sorry, went afk to let the dogs out.. i'm back now... looking back for your answer |
| 12:18 | slef: ok, from http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5ed0eac3c;hb=HEAD | |
| 12:18 | line 86 install_misc/ubuntu-pkg-check.sh | grep none | |
| 12:19 | libmysqlclient16-dev = (none) | |
| 12:19 | libyaz3-dev = (none) | |
| 12:19 | libgcrypt11-dev = (none) | |
| 12:19 | libxml2-dev = (none) | |
| 12:19 | libxslt1-dev = (none) | |
| 12:20 | slef | hrm. What ubuntu version is that? |
| 12:20 | Culiforge | then started searching out dependency issues. first step, I ran sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient16-dev |
| 12:20 | 10.04 | |
| 12:21 | slef | so that's what the INSTALL is written for. Wonder why those packages are not found :-/ |
| 12:22 | I'm pretty sure "apt-get install libmysqlclient-dev libyaz-dev libgcrypt-dev" will be OK if they exist. | |
| 12:22 | Culiforge | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 12:22 | libmysqlclient-dev: Depends: libmysqlclient16 (= 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10) but 5.1.58-1 is to be installed | |
| 12:22 | Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed | |
| 12:22 | E: Broken packages | |
| 12:22 | ok, i'll run that... right? | |
| 12:23 | slef | confusing |
| 12:23 | wahanui | somebody said confusing was "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" |
| 12:24 | slef | I wonder why it won't just install zlib1g-dev and why it can't find compatible libmysqlclient versions. |
| 12:25 | Culiforge: have you done "apt-get update" recently? | |
| 12:25 | Culiforge | ya know. I don't remember.. one sec |
| 12:25 | just did, same output | |
| 12:26 | slef | checking http://packages.ubuntu.com/libmysqlclient16 |
| 12:27 | Culiforge | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgcrypt11-dev: Depends: libgpg-error-dev but it is not going to be installed libmysqlclient-dev: Depends: libmysqlclient16 (= 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10) but 5.1.58-1 is to be installed Depends: zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed libyaz3-dev: Depends: libxslt1-dev but it is not going to be installed Depends: libgnutls-dev but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages |
| 12:27 | I should start pastebin-ing... | |
| 12:28 | slef | 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.* should be the latest on lucid. Are you sure you're on 10.04? What does /etc/ubuntu_version (I think) say? |
| 12:28 | do you have non-lucid lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? | |
| 12:29 | 5.1.58 looks like oneric or precise | |
| 12:30 | Culiforge | hmm, i've got some dapper in sources.list |
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| 12:30 | Culiforge | I think that was for handbrake.. |
| 12:31 | slef | "dpkg -s libmysqlclient16" into a pastebin may help |
| 12:31 | HandBrake is a software application that can convert MPEG video (including DVD-Video) into a MPEG-4 video file in .mp4, .avi, .ogm, or .mkv containers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HandBrake | |
| 12:32 | curious. Why's that better than ffmpeg? | |
| 12:32 | Culiforge | http://paste.ubuntu.com/801686/ |
| 12:34 | i use handbrake because it's simple to convert my vid collection to .mkv for my htpc.. and i'm green on linux so I go the easiest route | |
| 12:34 | atm | |
| 12:34 | slef | ok, next question, do you remember downloading libmysqlclient16 from debian? |
| 12:35 | Culiforge | not that i'm aware of... I was following the tutorial magnus provided that I link a little back |
| 12:35 | * slef | checks that again |
| 12:36 | Culiforge | unless it was part of ubuntu.packages that I intalled... |
| 12:36 | or the dselect thing | |
| 12:36 | slef | unlikely unless you've debian.org lines in /etc/apt |
| 12:37 | I guess you could try "sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient16=5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10" and see if that gets you moving again | |
| 12:37 | somehow you've installed a libmysqlclient16 version which doesn't exist in ubuntu | |
| 12:38 | I don't suppose you keep any logs or notes which might say where/when/why that was installed? | |
| 12:39 | Culiforge | ok, I see it.. it was installed from debian sid.... that entry is commented out now. |
| 12:39 | if I had logs, where might they be? | |
| 12:42 | slef | whereever you wrote them... or maybe ubuntu installs something that keeps /var/log/apt* but I don't know ubuntu well. (I prefer .org to .com) |
| 12:48 | Culiforge | ok, lemme poke around a bit |
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| 12:52 | Culiforge | I have this entry in history.log... does'nt tell much libmysqlclient16 (5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10, 5.1.58-1) |
| 12:53 | slef | no time or similar? tells you when it was replaced. Have you tried the apt-get install = command above? |
| 12:53 | lunchtime here... back in 20 | |
| 12:56 | Culiforge | synaptic is showing 5.1.58 is what I have now... there is a 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10 (lucid-updates) that i assume it replaced |
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| 13:05 | Culiforge | back |
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| 13:20 | slef | back |
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| 13:23 | Culiforge | slef: ok, so I went into synaptic and forced vesion of prev libmysqlclient16... apparently something was installed requiring kde libraries and such... so i'm tracing back version dependencies atm... |
| 13:23 | gotta go to work in about 10 min but I'll be back later. | |
| 13:29 | * oleonard | wonders why Koha must be "KOHA" in Poland... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/inde[…]955800&oldid=prev |
| 13:32 | slef | oleonard: I don't understand. :( |
| 13:33 | Culiforge: sounds like your system is a mashup of ubuntu lucid and debian sid :-/ | |
| 13:34 | Culiforge | yeah, I don't remember what I was trying to install that required the sid repo... but if it breaks I should learn to live without it until i'm more handy with linux |
| 13:35 | it appears I have it fixed though.. now to continue on with koha install.. um.. after I go to work that is.. thx for the help you got me back on track | |
| 13:35 | slef | np. Good luck! |
| 13:42 | oleonard | kf around? |
| 13:43 | kf | here :) |
| 13:44 | oleonard | Yesterday you suggested I use BETWEEN in my query instead of MONTH() and YEAR() and you were absolutely right |
| 13:44 | It took the query from 28.57 sec to 1.48 sec | |
| 13:45 | kf | oh wow |
| 13:45 | that is a lot! | |
| 13:46 | oleonard | Yeah, I'll say |
| 13:51 | kf | but cool that it worked |
| 13:51 | I got another mail asking about my css problem :( | |
| 13:51 | hope I can figure it out tomorrow | |
| 13:51 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 13:51 | sunny day here listening to Sublime | |
| 13:52 | mcmx_ | Hi all, im struggling to set up Koha with Active Directory, i've configured my koha-conf however im getting "LDAP Auth rejected" when i try and log in with a valid user. Any help would be great. Thanks |
| 13:58 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 13:58 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #148: "<oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo" (added by wizzyrea at 05:11 PM, August 25, 2011) |
| 13:58 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 14:00 | kf | mcmx_: I would recommend again to ask your question on the mailing list and give the version of your installation and what you did so far |
| 14:04 | oleonard | mailing list? |
| 14:04 | wahanui | i guess mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 14:04 | oleonard | Say it with confidence wahanui |
| 14:05 | kf | :) |
| 14:05 | wahanui botsnack cookie | |
| 14:05 | wahanui | thanks kf :) |
| 14:12 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 14:13 | oleonard | Hi jcamins |
| 14:14 | jcamins | Ooh, I didn't realize there was a "Patch pushed" query. |
| 14:16 | * jcamins | hums 76 trombones. |
| 14:18 | kf | hi jcamins :) |
| 14:21 | jcamins | Good morning, kf. |
| 14:21 | I hope the weather in Konstanz is nicer than the weather in Forest Hills. | |
| 14:21 | magnuse | slef++ for troubleshooting! |
| 14:24 | * jcamins | will have to find out from rangi how to get C & P listed as an employer. |
| 14:25 | magnuse | jcamins: rangi does that in some kind of mailmap file when he does the stats, i think |
| 14:25 | jcamins | Oh, that's right... I need to send a mailmap patch for chris_n. |
| 14:26 | magnuse | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]-x-td5047659.html |
| 14:26 | jcamins | Yep. I'm just forgetful. |
| 14:26 | magnuse | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e69b5e2;hb=3.6.x |
| 14:27 | slef | ta magnuse... I'll look at your RFC change RSN |
| 14:28 | magnuse: I take it you oppose keeping git as the home of installation instructions? | |
| 14:28 | * jcamins | was trying to figure out what the 'S' stood for in "Registered S Nurse" for a bit there. |
| 14:28 | magnuse | slef: not at all! |
| 14:28 | not even sure where you got that idea... ;-) | |
| 14:29 | slef | magnuse: the wiki changelog comment... thought you had split my amendment into its own proposal. |
| 14:29 | magnuse | git is the place for it, but i was trying to think of ways to help more people discover them |
| 14:29 | slef: i took it you were opposed to having them on the wiki at all - might have misread you | |
| 14:30 | slef | I think there should be wiki links which redirect to or embed the git pages. |
| 14:30 | magnuse | to avoid remembering to copy over when there are changes? |
| 14:30 | slef | Yes, and I think copy-pasting them to the wiki is a waste of scarce volunteer time. |
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| 14:30 | jcamins | Embedding++ |
| 14:30 | magnuse | it can be automated with a script... |
| 14:30 | i don't know a way to embed them | |
| 14:31 | and i think the text should be in the wiki, for search engines etc | |
| 14:31 | * jcamins | either, but it'd be cool. |
| 14:31 | magnuse | yeah, very handy |
| 14:31 | slef | I don't know if mediawiki can. It should but mediawiki doesn't do lots of tings I think it should. ;-) |
| 14:31 | magnuse | but mediawiki filters out the usual suspects (iframe etc), i think, which is probably a good thing |
| 14:31 | hehe | |
| 14:32 | there might be an extension | |
| 14:32 | jcamins | Ugh. I have a meeting in 28 minutes. |
| 14:32 | magnuse | poos jcamins ;-) |
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| 14:35 | jcamins | mailmap patch submitted. |
| 14:35 | oleonard | What is a mailmap patch? |
| 14:36 | * oleonard | sees |
| 14:37 | * jcamins_away | dashes off to his meeting. |
| 14:37 | jcamins_away | Back in a bit. |
| 14:38 | magnuse | slef: did you see someone asking about koha in the uk on twitter yesterday? had the #koha hashtag |
| 14:38 | jcamins_away | @later tell rangi I love Atarau's expression in the bee picture. |
| 14:38 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:39 | slef | magnuse: no I missed that :( I'll look. |
| 14:43 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7439] Mailmap for 3.6.x not complete <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7439> |
| 14:44 | kf | jcamins_away: yeah - it's great |
| 14:44 | jcamins_away: the bee pic :) | |
| 14:50 | magnuse | bz doen? |
| 14:50 | *down | |
| 14:51 | oleonard | it is for me too magnuse |
| 14:51 | Is that ByWater or rangi? | |
| 14:52 | magnuse | rangi |
| 14:52 | according to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ministration#bugs.koha-community.org | |
| 14:53 | oleonard | Oh, so I can't suggest that someone at ByWater's staff retreat set a beer keg on the Bugzilla server |
| 14:54 | magnuse | well, you can always suggest it... |
| 14:54 | could be a long distance keg | |
| 14:56 | paul_p | bz down for us in France too |
| 15:00 | slef | gmcharlt: can you reach/reset bugs? |
| 15:00 | paul_p | slef, reset bugs ? VERY GOOD idea ! starting a new year with all bugs resetted will please many of us :D :D :D |
| 15:01 | magnuse | hehe |
| 15:01 | kf | nah not sure |
| 15:01 | slef | deliberate misparse there I think |
| 15:01 | kf | they still remain, only undocumented |
| 15:01 | mcmx_ | hi all, im struggling to set up Koha with Active Directory, i've configured my koha-conf however im getting "LDAP Auth rejected" when i try and log in with a valid user. Any help would be great. Thanks |
| 15:01 | gmcharlt | slef: yes, I can |
| 15:02 | * gmcharlt | checks |
| 15:03 | paul_p | kf, no, no: slef really suggested to reset all the bugs, not only bugzilla. We are all for it :D :D |
| 15:04 | jcamins_away | wb, paul_p |
| 15:04 | kf | paul_p: can I veto? ;) |
| 15:05 | jcamins_away | I am here, but my 10am isn't. |
| 15:05 | kf, but I want all bugs fixed immediately too! | |
| 15:06 | mcmx_ | ok now ive fixed that error but now i see " Date::Calc::Add_Delta_Days(): not a valid date", any ideas? |
| 15:06 | paul_p | kf, you missed the joke I think ;-) (jcamins didn't) |
| 15:06 | gmcharlt | slef: we have bugs again |
| 15:07 | wait, that doesn't sound quite right | |
| 15:07 | kf | perhaps I did |
| 15:07 | long day | |
| 15:07 | lots of meetings | |
| 15:07 | jcamins_away | Argh! |
| 15:07 | magnuse | gmcharlt brought the bugs back, oh well... |
| 15:07 | :-) | |
| 15:07 | jcamins_away | kf, did people show up? |
| 15:08 | gmcharlt | @quote add <magnuse> gmcharlt brought the bugs back, oh well... |
| 15:08 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #180 added. |
| 15:08 | slef | gmcharlt: thank you sweetie! |
| 15:08 | kf | jcamins_away: yep, our meetings were well attended |
| 15:09 | gmcharlt | slef: you're welcome |
| 15:09 | jcamins_away | Hm. Wonder if mine will be... |
| 15:10 | kf | biblibre++ |
| 15:11 | paul_p | seems bugzilla still not reachable from here... |
| 15:12 | oleonard | Nor here |
| 15:13 | paul_p | and I just was needing the 7342 *now* ... murphy's law, as usual... |
| 15:13 | * gmcharlt | checks again |
| 15:13 | gmcharlt | @bug 7342 |
| 15:13 | huginn | gmcharlt: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 15:14 | paul_p | ah, it's back ! |
| 15:14 | ok, seems it's back, but it's *very* slow | |
| 15:15 | gmcharlt | @bug 7342 |
| 15:15 | huginn | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7342 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , aqbudgets statistics doesn't work when using Authorized values on sort1_authcat or sort2_authcat |
| 15:17 | gmcharlt | looks like a DOS or misconfigured crawler, working on it |
| 15:18 | if somebody in-channel is using a host in Belgium to crawl bugs.koha-community.org using wget, please stop, pretty-please | |
| 15:19 | oleonard | The person who edited our Wikipedia entry yesterday is probably hoping to add a list of all bugs to it :P |
| 15:19 | slef | iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -s IPADDRESS --dport 80 -j REJECT |
| 15:20 | but I'm sure you know that (or the typo-free version of it) | |
| 15:20 | gmcharlt | slef: yep, about to do that, just giving a heads up if somebody channel is doing this legitamately (but too eagerly) |
| 15:21 | @bug 7342 | |
| 15:21 | huginn | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7342 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , aqbudgets statistics doesn't work when using Authorized values on sort1_authcat or sort2_authcat |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt | paul_p: oleonard: try now |
| 15:22 | oleonard | Works fine for me now |
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| 15:29 | libsysguy | o/ |
| 15:34 | * gmcharlt | has sent an email to abusethe-offending-institution; it's possible that it was a legitimate, though misguided, crawl |
| 15:35 | magnuse | \o |
| 15:36 | gmcharlt++ for fixing | |
| 15:38 | gmcharlt++ for being an optimist too ;-) | |
| 15:38 | gmcharlt | :) |
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| 15:49 | magnuse | hm, should changes to "Default messaging preferences" for a patron category apply to existing patrons too, or do they just affect new patrons? EnhancedMessagingPreferences = enabled |
| 15:49 | oleonard | Just new patrons if I recall correctly |
| 15:49 | Isn't there a note about that? | |
| 15:49 | Guest23632 | only new patrons |
| 15:50 | * wizzyrea | sighs. |
| 15:50 | slef | gmcharlt: whois -h whois.abuse.net the-offending-institution ? |
| 15:50 | magnuse | gah, that seems somewhat impractical... |
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| 15:51 | kf | magnuse: only new patrons - and it's ok I think. Because you would overwrite the settings someone has requested |
| 15:51 | oleonard | magnuse: Wouldn't globally changing the preferences reset prefs which patrons had set for themselves? |
| 15:51 | kf | jinx? :) |
| 15:51 | magnuse | yeah, guess you are right |
| 15:51 | kf | I think there might be a script |
| 15:51 | in misc | |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | IIRC, yes |
| 15:52 | kf | and I have some sql if you want it |
| 15:52 | because I forgot to set the settings before importing patrons... more than once | |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | though, if you are like us |
| 15:52 | magnuse | kf: that's probably the same thing that happend here |
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | well, not me, because I consider it spamming. |
| 15:53 | but the others here | |
| 15:53 | they went back and clobbered whatever the patrons had set | |
| 15:53 | "it's for library business and they can change it back" | |
| 15:53 | which I think is very unfriendly | |
| 15:53 | magnuse | somewhat, yes ;-) |
| 15:54 | wizzyrea | somewhat is not the adjective I would use |
| 15:54 | :P | |
| 15:57 | kf | I think it would not be legal really... if they have opted out |
| 15:57 | to opt them in | |
| 15:57 | again | |
| 15:58 | magnuse | i'll leave that decision to the library in question |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | it would be legal here - companies do it all the time, it's irritating |
| 15:59 | gmcharlt | slef: no specific address was provided, so I went with abuse@ |
| 15:59 | kf | I am not sure ... only dealing a lot with data privavy |
| 15:59 | probably dpeends on what you have written down for them to sign at registration | |
| 15:59 | gmcharlt | and the legal jurisdiction |
| 15:59 | kf | yes, that too |
| 15:59 | * gmcharlt | can see the system preference now |
| 15:59 | gmcharlt | ContactInfoOfLibraryAttorney |
| 16:00 | kf | I will be so happy once I have written up all those documents |
| 16:00 | lol | |
| 16:00 | magnuse | hm, would a link from a patrons category on their details page (members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=823) to the edit screen for that category (admin/categorie.pl?op=add_form&categorycode=ST) be a good thing? make it easier to check settings for the category? |
| 16:00 | slef | magnuse: can't people bulk-edit if they want to override current ones? |
| 16:01 | magnuse | bulk edit patrons? |
| 16:01 | slef | else yes, I can see that feature breaking our privacy law in some cases :-/ |
| 16:01 | oh don't we have patron bulk-editing in master yet? | |
| 16:01 | magnuse | well, in this case it's a school - they could probably get away with it |
| 16:02 | slef | damn it... I've a git tree with it somewhere :( Please send some 36-hour days. |
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| 16:02 | magnuse | slef: i will when i find them |
| 16:02 | * wizzyrea | sends slef a rocket and a ticket to jupiter |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 16:02 | you know, for the 36 hour days | |
| 16:02 | * oleonard | suspects the IRC lag is terrible from there |
| 16:02 | slef | magnuse: make it dependent on a new PatronCategoryChangesBuggerSomeLaws syspref? |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 16:03 | magnuse | slef: sure |
| 16:03 | slef | oleonard: can't be much worse than the lag on my mobile dongle in the fens! |
| 16:03 | mib_kus6x7 | Evening.....any ideas why all users email overdues might go out multiple times!? |
| 16:03 | I found this: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7287 | |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | "lag on my mobile dongle" sounds surprisingly naughty |
| 16:03 | huginn | 04Bug 7287: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, sophie.meynieux, ASSIGNED , overdue notification is processed several times if some sites do not have rules |
| 16:03 | mib_kus6x7 | but I am not sure... |
| 16:04 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 16:04 | slef | it would be funnier if I'd replaced the right word |
| 16:05 | mib_kus6x7: do you think that bug does or doesn't apply to you? | |
| 16:05 | mib_kus6x7 | I can't make out the bug. The description fits but when you read the rest of it it doesn't really mention multiple emails.. |
| 16:05 | jcamins_away | magnuse: there's a script to reset messaging to defaults. |
| 16:06 | mib_kus6x7 | Our site is emailing every user 4 times with the same overdue at the same time |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | you don't happen to have a test server hanging out with cronjobs enabled |
| 16:07 | * wizzyrea | has done that |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | (I wasn't proud, mind you) |
| 16:07 | kf | mib_kus6x7: which version are you using? |
| 16:07 | mib_kus6x7 | No! Good thought though. |
| 16:07 | 3.06.00 | |
| 16:07 | jcamins_away | mib_kus6x7: how did you install it? |
| 16:07 | kf | mib_kus6x7: and how are you using overdues? the parameters of your cronjob? |
| 16:08 | mib_kus6x7 | Just the standard overdues script with -t |
| 16:11 | I upgraded it from 3.4 | |
| 16:11 | downloaded the source | |
| 16:12 | magnuse | jcamins_away, kf: found it: misc/maintenance/borrowers-force-messaging-defaults |
| 16:15 | jcamins | wizzyrea: Shari adores her new Asus Transformer. |
| 16:16 | mib_kus6x7: hm. I was wondering if maybe you had two entries, one in cron.daily and one in the user's crontab, but that seems kind of unlikely. | |
| 16:17 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:18 | kf | magnuse: cool :) |
| 16:18 | mib_kus6x7: and your triggers are correctly set under toold > notice triggers? | |
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| 16:19 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 16:30 | jcamins | wizzyrea: do you hear what I hear? |
| 16:30 | It sounds like... | |
| 16:30 | dinner... | |
| 16:30 | wahanui | dinner is probably a good idea. |
| 16:30 | jcamins | cait's... |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | is that a bell? |
| 16:31 | jcamins | I think it was! |
| 16:31 | rangi | jcamins: updated my stats blogpost for you |
| 16:32 | jcamins | rangi: awesome! |
| 16:32 | Thanks! | |
| 16:32 | rangi++ | |
| 16:32 | I wasn't actually that troubled. | |
| 16:33 | rangi: aren't you on vacation? | |
| 16:33 | rangi | got back yesterday |
| 16:34 | jcamins | rangi: ah, welcome back. |
| 16:34 | rangi | thank you |
| 16:38 | jcamins | If you're not ready to go back to work and want an excuse for taking a mental health day, bug 7430 is a good one. ;) |
| 16:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio |
| 16:38 | rangi | oh i meant to mention, nozebra is deprecated and should be removed |
| 16:38 | jcamins | Really? |
| 16:38 | rangi | yep |
| 16:38 | jcamins | I could just take it out? |
| 16:38 | rangi | has been for a while |
| 16:38 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 16:39 | * jcamins | does a happy dance. |
| 16:39 | jcamins | Happy dance happy dance happy dance! |
| 16:39 | rangi | we just did it softly, but would be nice to kill it with fire now |
| 16:39 | jcamins | Yes! |
| 16:39 | * oleonard | gathers torches |
| 16:39 | * magnuse | fetches wood for the pyre |
| 16:40 | jcamins | Fire! Fire! Cleanse the codebase! |
| 16:40 | * oleonard | imagines that he himself has been carrying around a nozebra all his life, and would have to give it up if someone gave him a zebra. |
| 16:40 | jcamins | http://xkcd.com/429/ |
| 16:41 | So... we might actually be able to use my patches... | |
| 16:41 | Wow! | |
| 16:41 | magnuse | woohoo |
| 16:42 | tcohen | :-D |
| 16:42 | oleonard | s/patches/matches |
| 16:42 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:43 | magnuse | lol |
| 16:43 | * jcamins | wasn't actually expecting that. The goal was just to spark discussion. |
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| 16:43 | oleonard | You've certainly gotten everyone fired up |
| 16:44 | jcamins | oleonard++ # that's what I call taking the torch and running with it |
| 16:44 | rangi | see |
| 16:45 | http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-0-released/ | |
| 16:45 | check under searching | |
| 16:45 | * NoZebra mode is officially deprecated. | |
| 16:45 | jcamins | Ah, riht you are. |
| 16:45 | rangi | there was a meeting about it and everything |
| 16:45 | jcamins | Number one. |
| 16:45 | rangi | :) |
| 16:46 | magnuse | any volunteers for a patch to rip out the code and the syspref etc? |
| 16:48 | kf | dinner? |
| 16:48 | wahanui | dinner is, like, a good idea |
| 16:49 | jcamins | wahanui: very true. |
| 16:49 | wahanui | I know. That's why I said it. |
| 16:49 | kf | lol |
| 16:49 | trying to send me home again? | |
| 16:49 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 16:50 | kf | nice try, but nobody is going to make that dinner for me... so. |
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| 16:50 | jcamins | Bug 7440. |
| 16:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7440 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Vestiges of NoZebra should be removed |
| 16:51 | rangi | magnuse: what needs to be done is check the installer make sure no mention of it, then rip out code, then make sure when someone upgrades |
| 16:51 | if they have nozebra on | |
| 16:51 | they get a big warning, this wont work, configure zebra | |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Newsflash! Legitimate use for <blink/> tag found! |
| 16:52 | magnuse | hehe |
| 16:52 | jcamins | :D |
| 16:52 | magnuse | sounds like rangi is half way to a patch already ;-) |
| 16:52 | rangi | so part one is done |
| 16:52 | there is no mention of it when installing | |
| 16:52 | we did that for 3.4.0 | |
| 16:53 | its just the upgrade, then code purge to do | |
| 16:53 | and nope, i wont be doing it | |
| 16:54 | magnuse | dang ;-) |
| 16:54 | jcamins | I don't know how to do the upgrade bit, but I'd take a blowtorch to the code. |
| 16:54 | magnuse | the manual needs an update too |
| 16:54 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]zebradefault.html | |
| 16:54 | kf | hm |
| 16:55 | we probably need a big warning then for updating libraires? | |
| 16:55 | jcamins | kf: right. That's the part I don't know how to do. |
| 16:55 | kf | that they really have to configure zebra now |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | *Use the Packages! No really! Zebra config is so much easier! We swear!* |
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| 16:58 | slef | which means 1. they need to be on debian or ubuntu; and 2. they're not customising the code much. |
| 16:59 | rangi | 1. is true |
| 16:59 | 2. theres a script to build your own packages from git | |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | i'm sure we would welcome packages for other distros |
| 16:59 | if someone wanted to make them. | |
| 16:59 | magnuse | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]es_-_The_Easy_Way |
| 16:59 | even i can do it ;-) | |
| 17:00 | slef | sure... just pointing out why "Use the Packages" will have some staunch objectors |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | those objectors probably know how to configure zebra |
| 17:00 | and could do it in their sleep | |
| 17:00 | maximep | When I edit an item there's no way to edit the field 1- lost status ? Is that normal ? |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 17:01 | because you're not supposed to edit that there | |
| 17:01 | maximep | but you can on add ? |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | you're supposed to do it from the detail |
| 17:01 | yes | |
| 17:01 | maximep | hmmm maybe a text to explain that would be good hehe |
| 17:01 | ah i think that's what bug 7089 is about | |
| 17:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7089 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , lost status on add item |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | yep, it's been a problem |
| 17:02 | the reason it is that way | |
| 17:02 | is that marking lost from the 2 places behaved differently | |
| 17:02 | the solution was to either hide or make unavailable from edit item the lost status | |
| 17:03 | but that dev has been problematic | |
| 17:03 | so we'll probably be changing the way it works | |
| 17:03 | maximep | wizzyrea: thanks the the explaination! |
| 17:03 | magnuse | maximep: see also bug 5533 |
| 17:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5533 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , marking item lost diff in two places |
| 17:04 | slef | magnuse: I'm almost certainly going to regret asking this, but why not use gitpkg? |
| 17:04 | magnuse | slef: i have no clue whatsoever - yu need to ask liw or eythian that i think |
| 17:06 | * liw | recommends eythian :) |
| 17:06 | rangi | slef: would mean wholescale restructuring of the git repo is the main bit |
| 17:06 | also, now that can build language packs too | |
| 17:06 | magnuse | ah, or rangi... ;-) |
| 17:06 | rangi | and liw yes i broke the obnam ppa |
| 17:07 | then went on vacation | |
| 17:07 | liw | rangi, no worries :) |
| 17:07 | rangi | rangi-- |
| 17:07 | huginn | rangi: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
| 17:07 | rangi | ill try to get it all fixed up |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | i can't bring myself to give rangi negative karma |
| 17:07 | I just can't | |
| 17:07 | liw | rangi, no worries :) |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea, the concept is mind bogglingly weird | |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | it is isn't it? |
| 17:08 | magnuse | hm, is there some documentation about setting up a koha server as a mail server or similar? i have a feeling i have followed one before, but can't find it now... |
| 17:08 | rangi | yep |
| 17:09 | i think it was on the mailing list | |
| 17:09 | magnuse | ah |
| 17:12 | * magnuse | should keep better notes |
| 17:12 | liw | magnuse, also, docs should be on the wiki ;) |
| 17:13 | magnuse | yes please ;-) |
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| 17:15 | magnuse | "sudo apt-get install postfix" - that wasn't too hard... |
| 17:15 | rangi | magnuse: yep, that would be my choice too, i quite like postfix |
| 17:17 | magnuse | and no messing with spamhaus this time, either |
| 17:18 | rangi | hi schuster |
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| 17:20 | schuster | wizzyrea here? |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | i am |
| 17:20 | schuster | holds question :) |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | oh goodie! |
| 17:20 | schuster | does the email librarian when hold placed now work? |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | I love those! |
| 17:20 | we don't use that, but I can test it | |
| 17:21 | when did it not work? | |
| 17:21 | schuster | you know me 3.2! |
| 17:21 | jcamins | Does anyone want credit for a lot of line deletions? Removing NoZebra will involve removing more than 2k lines. |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | (also, why would you not use the hold queue for similar functionality) |
| 17:22 | kf | :) |
| 17:22 | schuster | School librarians some are allowing their students to place holds so I want to explore if it works before giving them the option on or off. |
| 17:22 | kf | time to leave |
| 17:22 | bye all :) | |
| 17:22 | magnuse | bye kf |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | bug 5297 |
| 17:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5297 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, NEW , emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced does nothing |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | looks like there is a patch for 3.2.x |
| 17:23 | schuster | notification of things their kids are putting on hold maybe need to buy a second copy - force them to look at the que if they get a bunch o femails. |
| 17:23 | wizzyrea | I think we killed a kitten. |
| 17:23 | or rather | |
| 17:24 | the documentation needed to be updated on how to use it | |
| 17:24 | jcamins | The stopwords table is unnecessary now, isn't it? |
| 17:24 | rangi | yup |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | do note removing that will require the tests to be changed |
| 17:24 | * magnuse | wanders off to make dinner |
| 17:24 | schuster | so it does work in your test system? I'm going through the system settings one by one to see the "new to me" features and revisiting the ones we set 3 years + ago. |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | idk, i haven't checked yet ^.^ but it looks like with proper configuration it should work |
| 17:25 | there aren't any bugs open that indicate otherwise | |
| 17:25 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5297] emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced does nothing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5297> |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | that's my bad, you can ignore that |
| 17:25 | jcamins | Question about this construct: [% IF ( stopwords_removed ) %]<div><p class="tip">Ignored the following comm |
| 17:25 | on words: "[% stopwords_removed %]"<p></div>[% END %] [% ELSE %] | |
| 17:25 | Bleh. | |
| 17:26 | Anyway, is the [% ELSE %] related to the stopwords_removed? | |
| 17:26 | rangi | nope |
| 17:26 | the END is | |
| 17:26 | schuster | Another question - dealing with in processing and shelving cart. Anyone using that feature with 3.x? |
| 17:26 | jcamins | That's what I thought, thanks. |
| 17:26 | schuster | Is it working as described? |
| 17:26 | kf | it's there but not using it |
| 17:26 | rangi | if end , or if else end .. not if end else |
| 17:26 | :) | |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | the last time I tested that, it worked as described |
| 17:26 | kf | so now really leaving :) |
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| 17:27 | wizzyrea | oh, kf is still here? |
| 17:27 | oleonard | No :P |
| 17:27 | wizzyrea | lol |
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| 17:28 | rangi | hi fredericd |
| 17:29 | fredericd | hi |
| 17:29 | schuster | ok thanks good to know... |
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| 17:30 | paul_p | time to leave for me. tomorrow will be a "patch pushed" day ! (i've 16 patches "passed QA" ...) |
| 17:31 | a short meeting to start my day, then pushing all the day -I hope !- | |
| 17:31 | good day american ppl & good night for europe, good early morning for aussies/kiwis ! | |
| 17:31 | rangi | and we are up to 67 needs signoff |
| 17:32 | it was 50 when i went on holiday! | |
| 17:32 | paul_p | yep, and it includes a few large ones ! |
| 17:32 | rangi | theres a bunch of @catalyst plus some of my own that I obviously cant sign off |
| 17:32 | paul_p | breaking news = i think i'll put my sandbox system on a 1st sandbox soon... |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 17:32 | rangi | we need people signing off on others more |
| 17:33 | not sure how to get them to do it though | |
| 17:34 | rhcl | ping bag |
| 17:35 | paul_p | I hope my sandbox system will help. You'll be able to get a working Koha in a few minuts, with a sample database, the patch you want having being applied. Thus just entering the bugnumber, your email address & the sample database you want, that's all. |
| 17:35 | librarians won't have any excuse not to signoff ;-) | |
| 17:35 | this time, I really leave ! | |
| 17:35 | rangi | yep that would be good |
| 17:35 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6838] Filtering and pagination in subscriptions table <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6838> |
| 17:35 | * jcamins | heads to a client's. |
| 17:36 | rangi | i think its also developers signing off on other developers (outside their organisation) that we need to get going too, lots of things need people to look at the actual code too |
| 17:36 | rhcl | I wanna take a tour: |
| 17:36 | "visit the headquarters for a stunning tour that included the “hands-down-most-awesome server room ever” and the most efficient book scanning workflow I’ve ever seen." | |
| 17:36 | http://librarianinblack.net/li[…]e-for-ebooks.html | |
| 17:36 | by chance have you ever been rangi? | |
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| 17:37 | rangi | nope not me |
| 17:37 | openlibrary is cool | |
| 17:37 | rhcl | we're thinking about participating |
| 17:38 | rangi | george has left there now tho, and she was my contact |
| 17:38 | wizzyrea | aw bummer. |
| 17:38 | rangi | rhcl: there are a bunch of enh requests in progress for koha + openlibrary |
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| 17:50 | cait | back :) |
| 17:50 | so now where is this dinner you were talking about? | |
| 17:51 | * wizzyrea | looks up takeaway places in Konstanz |
| 17:51 | gmcharlt | magnus_afk: as it turns out, my optimism was justified |
| 17:51 | magnus_afk | gmcharlt: cool! |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | cait, if you have a min |
| 17:51 | cait | sure |
| 17:51 | gmcharlt | it was somebody who is planning to take Koha into an area with poor Internet service; just miscalulated when downloading what he needed for the trip |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | 7001 - see srdjan's last comment |
| 17:52 | cait | the dosplay thing? |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | sorry, i'm confusing myself... he doesn't talk about it... what do you think of "I didn't realize that you could specify a code for overdue |
| 17:53 | notices. That helps. A drop down still appeals to me - but it would have to | |
| 17:53 | include "Other" that lets you set the code name manually. " | |
| 17:53 | something worth pursuing? | |
| 17:53 | cait | ah |
| 17:54 | hm | |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | bc I still think it's confusing that you have to know the code |
| 17:54 | cait | I am not sure how a good display would look like here |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | and which module it goes in |
| 17:54 | magnus_afk | gmcharlt: very cool! |
| 17:54 | cait | perhaps we need to have a list of modules... combined with the hardcoded codes |
| 17:54 | overdues go in circulation - we have some hardcoded and some free codes there | |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | well that's a documenation thingie |
| 17:54 | a list would certainly help | |
| 17:55 | cait | I think we should certainly have documentation for it |
| 17:55 | wizzyrea | but you're still leaving it up to the human |
| 17:55 | and humans get things wrong a lot | |
| 17:55 | cait | not sure about how to make it work for the gui |
| 17:55 | I think a list with an option would work | |
| 17:55 | lke the one in suggestions? | |
| 17:55 | wizzyrea | oo yea |
| 17:55 | good call | |
| 17:56 | yea, choose a reason "others..." | |
| 17:56 | just like that, actually | |
| 17:56 | but you'd need 2 fields, the module dropdown and the code | |
| 17:56 | but other than that, yea | |
| 17:56 | * wizzyrea | will make a screencast |
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| 17:56 | cait | wizzyrea: yes, and the module should determine the list you see... |
| 17:57 | wizzyrea | right |
| 18:03 | rhcl | Was sekjal's last comment "Agreed. Let's add the new option to new installs, and provide documentation on how to add it into existing installs." on 15 Dec a final solution to bug 7153? |
| 18:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7153 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, savitra.sirohi, ASSIGNED , Show Open Library as Search Target in "More Searches" in OPAC detail page |
| 18:03 | nengard | i think we need a patch still ? |
| 18:05 | cait | rhcl: I think it is a final solution but needs a new patch without update? |
| 18:05 | perhaps. | |
| 18:05 | * cait | should be making dinner |
| 18:05 | rhcl | 'k |
| 18:05 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6681] When importing a biblio record via Z39.50, authority links also get imported <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6681> |
| 18:05 | * oleonard | should be eating lunch |
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| 18:28 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 18:28 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on January 13, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:29 | rangi | http://www.metservice.com/nati[…]-weather-warnings |
| 18:30 | wizzyrea | @wunder 66047 |
| 18:30 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -7.1°C (12:30 PM CST on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:32 | cait | wizzyrea: I have a questoin for you too :) |
| 18:32 | do you have an idea what goes into the alerts table? | |
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| 18:33 | wizzyrea | no clue - we don't have any in our db |
| 18:37 | cait | perhaps it's dead |
| 18:38 | * jcamins_away | waves from Manhattan. |
| 18:38 | jcamins_away | NYC, not Kansas. |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | I would have had to get angry with you if you came to manhattan and didn't visit lawrence too. |
| 18:39 | it's only a 2h drive :P | |
| 18:40 | cait | you know |
| 18:40 | a 2 hour drive in germany is quite long | |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | i know - scale here is so weird compared to many places in the world. |
| 18:41 | cait | :) |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | and people wonder why we don't have better public transit - things are effin far apart! |
| 18:41 | cait | heh |
| 18:42 | rangi | hmm |
| 18:43 | http://serials.infomotions.com[…]/201201/0099.html | |
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| 18:57 | wizzyrea | the link in the reply is interesting. |
| 18:57 | but oldish | |
| 18:58 | rangi | yup |
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| 19:05 | rangi | hmm how did that spam get through |
| 19:05 | still first one in ages | |
| 19:06 | im not sure what scott kushner is doing, but whatever it is, its not right | |
| 19:06 | koha doesnt even use an .htaccess file | |
| 19:07 | wizzyrea | i know :/ I wasn't able to figure out what he was doing |
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| 19:08 | oleonard | rangi: spam? |
| 19:08 | rangi | i thought i saw some on the koha list |
| 19:08 | but it might have just been to me | |
| 19:09 | oleonard | No, you're right, I see it too. |
| 19:10 | gmcharlt | bah, that just ruins the joke I was going to make that if anybody was going to get individually targetted spam that includes the word "koha", it would be rangi |
| 19:10 | rangi | heh |
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| 19:12 | rangi | remind me to introduce trea to screen |
| 19:12 | or bip | |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | he's got atrocious internet |
| 19:15 | trea joined #koha | |
| 19:15 | rangi | i can tell :) |
| 19:16 | schuster | rangi - didn't mean to ignore you earlier just didn't see it until I read back! |
| 19:16 | Glad you had a good time away and actually stayed away from the computer! | |
| 19:18 | rangi | :) |
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| 19:19 | jenn[ak] | bored? Come watch me on webcam @ http://bit.ly/zYE0pZ |
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| 19:20 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: so do I at the moment, but thanks to the wonders of screen, I don't lose all my scrollback. :P |
| 19:20 | * gmcharlt | has installed Koha many times, not sure I find watching a Koha installation video all that compelling anymore ;) |
| 19:20 | wizzyrea | :) |
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| 19:21 | wizzyrea | we should start peppering that bot with questions about apache virtual hosts |
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| 19:28 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:28 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.7°C (8:24 PM CET on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1029.3 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:28 | schuster | brrr... |
| 19:29 | @wunder 75075 | |
| 19:29 | huginn | schuster: The current temperature in Independence and 15th. St., Plano, Texas is 2.6°C (1:29 PM CST on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:29 | jcamins_away | @wunder 11375 |
| 19:29 | huginn | jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 6.5°C (2:25 PM EST on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.45 in 997.2 hPa (Steady). Coastal Flood Warning in effect until 3 PM EST this afternoon... |
| 19:29 | jcamins_away | Weird weather. |
| 19:29 | schuster | Ah man we could use the rain here... |
| 19:29 | rangi | http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]9/in/photostream/ <--kahu in his WWI trench |
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| 19:30 | schuster | Saw on the news 2 nights ago a lake and the lady was standing on the lake bed by the pole that should have marked the channel the boats stayed in to be clear... |
| 19:30 | rhcl | schuster: When I lived in San Antonio the level of the aquifer was a routine part of the daily weather forcast |
| 19:32 | schuster | rangi - I suspect several of those pictures one of the boys borrowed the camera on... They look like many I have seen on my camera! |
| 19:32 | collum | @wunder 41017 |
| 19:32 | huginn | collum: The current temperature in Van Aachen, Erlanger, Kentucky is 2.3°C (2:32 PM EST on January 12, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996.2 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST Friday... |
| 19:35 | rangi | oh there is a set from kahus camera |
| 19:35 | he got for christmas | |
| 19:35 | jcamins_away | rangi: I like the one of Atarau in the red jacket. |
| 19:35 | rangi | really really cheap digital (60$) |
| 19:35 | schuster | We are about to go into what they call level 4 water restrictions - We are not far from limited amount of time in the show I suspect... |
| 19:36 | rangi | jcamins_away: the army museum has a kids section, where they can get dressed up |
| 19:36 | schuster | kahus++ |
| 19:36 | rangi | and morse code station |
| 19:36 | schuster | oh cool! |
| 19:36 | rangi | and a trench system |
| 19:36 | its pretty cool | |
| 19:36 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]2157628578802769/ | |
| 19:36 | schuster | Last summer in New Orleans Jared loved the WWII Museum |
| 19:37 | * jcamins_away | blinks. |
| 19:37 | rangi | hehe, his jared :) |
| 19:37 | jcamins_away | schuster: that's very confusing... I just spent several seconds trying to remember when I had a chance to visit the WWII museum. ;) |
| 19:37 | rangi | http://www.armymuseum.co.nz/ <-- we stopped here on the way up |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | hehe looks fun |
| 19:38 | rangi | kahu can push 26.3 kg of pressure on the scrum machine |
| 19:39 | (they had that and a virtual kicking game and stuff too, as part of the khaki and black exhibition) | |
| 19:39 | a fun museum | |
| 19:40 | jcamins_away | rangi: if you are ever in the New York area, you should take them to the Liberty Science Center, or Science Museum, or whatever it's called. |
| 19:40 | I *loved* that museum growing up. | |
| 19:40 | rangi | theyve been to the science museum in pittsburgh |
| 19:40 | loved that | |
| 19:40 | jcamins_away | We went about once every two years and, I kid you not, I spent the entire two years in between thinking about when our next trip would be. |
| 19:41 | * jcamins_away | has talked himself into a visit to the science museum. |
| 19:41 | collum | When I did 'wunder' there was light rain outside. Now it's snowing like crazy. huginn is a genius |
| 19:42 | schuster | sorry jcamins - my 5th grade son! |
| 19:42 | jcamins_away | schuster: yeah, I figured it out eventually. |
| 19:42 | rangi | i like all those science museum things :) |
| 19:42 | jcamins_away | They had this great display on static electricity... |
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| 20:05 | rangi | jcamins_away: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=72804 |
| 20:06 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=72711 | |
| 20:07 | jcamins_away | Yes! It's a dinosaur sneaker! |
| 20:08 | rangi | course its not all cuteness and smiling |
| 20:08 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]p?g2_itemId=72912 | |
| 20:14 | jcamins_away | cait: what was for dinner? |
| 20:14 | * jcamins_away | is trying to decide what he'll be having. |
| 20:14 | cait | bread with butter |
| 20:14 | heh | |
| 20:14 | jcamins_away | cait: that's it? |
| 20:15 | cait | it was fresh bread |
| 20:15 | hm and gherkins | |
| 20:15 | jcamins_away | Fresh bread _is_ nice. |
| 20:17 | * cait | nods |
| 20:19 | rangi | and cheese? |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | except for the gherkins that would have been very french |
| 20:19 | jcamins_away | rangi: cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter. |
| 20:20 | cait | no cheese in the fridge |
| 20:20 | so no cheese | |
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| 20:27 | oleonard | wahanui: Cheese is delicious |
| 20:27 | wahanui | ...but cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter.... |
| 20:31 | rangi | ibeardslee: im picking you are busy, looks like the academy is going well though |
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| 20:33 | ibeardslee | chugging along |
| 20:34 | looks like Kiritaki Koha is going to be the focus of the Android projects | |
| 20:34 | rangi | sweet |
| 20:34 | ibeardslee | grantp has a few things to work on |
| 20:34 | rangi | excellent, hes a good man |
| 20:34 | ibeardslee | currently writing up the 'sell the projects' slides |
| 20:35 | rangi | ahhh oleonard had a good quote for koha |
| 20:35 | lemme find it | |
| 20:35 | ibeardslee | still got to catch up with russ about the how not to be a dick |
| 20:35 | session for Monday morning | |
| 20:36 | rangi | ah yep |
| 20:36 | ibeardslee | so much to do before I head off to LCA |
| 20:37 | rangi | Koha presents all the same challenges that any web-based software might, with the added complexity of rule #123 |
| 20:37 | where 123 is | |
| 20:37 | wahanui | i think 123 is the authid. $9 is the subfield marker. |
| 20:37 | rangi | @quote get 123 |
| 20:37 | huginn | rangi: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 20:37 | cait | heh |
| 20:37 | jcamins_away | Wahanui has illustrated oleonard's point perfectly. |
| 20:37 | wahanui | jcamins_away: what? |
| 20:38 | rangi | ill be there on monday morning, if russ needs a hand or anything get him to drop me an email |
| 20:42 | ibeardslee | righto |
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| 20:57 | rhcl | cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]re=endscreen&NR=1 |
| 21:07 | rangi | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ter/HTML_Report/? C4::Boolean is currently my favourite, 100% across the board |
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| 21:10 | * liw | applauds rising test coverage percentages |
| 21:10 | oleonard | Ciao #koha |
| 21:12 | ibeardslee | rangi: what was the max you wanted for the Koha project? |
| 21:12 | jcamins_away | Okay, I've finished this author. Time to call it a night. |
| 21:13 | rangi | hmm, gonna be 2 of us for the first 2 days, so we could handle up around 6 i think |
| 21:13 | jcamins_away | Good night, #koha. |
| 21:13 | rangi | dont want to leave chrisdothall to deal with many more than that for the last 3 days |
| 21:44 | ibeardslee | rangi: and how many unit tests were completed last year |
| 21:45 | rangi | 7 all up |
| 21:45 | well 7 modules had more tests for them written | |
| 21:45 | more than 7 tests | |
| 21:47 | all four students now have their names on the about page in koha | |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | bug 7001 - does that last comment make sense? |
| 21:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , User Configurable Slips |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | and does anyone else have an opinion about that? |
| 21:50 | cait | set branch sounds logical to me |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | holds use the set library, iirc |
| 21:52 | for transit and whatnot | |
| 21:55 | cait | night :) |
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| 22:56 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5668] Star ratings in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668> |
| 22:56 | gmcharlt | @time |
| 22:56 | huginn | gmcharlt: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 22:57 | gmcharlt | @date |
| 22:57 | huginn | gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 23:05 | nengard | HA! |
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