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| 00:26 | wizzyrea | keke the reserves test makes an identical reserve every time it's run. |
| 00:27 | * wizzyrea | had 10x identical reserves on a bib. |
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| 00:48 | rangi | heh |
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| 01:22 | wizzyrea | what's the stuff in t/db_schemas for? |
| 01:23 | rangi | not sure i think that was the start of making the tests make their own db |
| 01:23 | wizzyrea | oic. |
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| 03:02 | jcamins_away | @later tell libsysguy Good plan. Hopefully there won't be too many that require overlaying, though I guess doing it via script wouldn't be that bad. |
| 03:02 | huginn` | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
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| 03:06 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: I sas just saying, seems like a good idea to me. |
| 03:06 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 03:06 | jcamins_away | *was |
| 03:07 | libsysguy | haha…yeah I think if i can get them all in one place it won't be bad…it does seem like there are a lot |
| 03:07 | maybe 50K-100K | |
| 03:07 | jcamins_away | Do you pay OCLC by the search? |
| 03:08 | libsysguy | i sure hope not…I don't think we do…I think it is a package deal |
| 03:08 | jcamins_away | In that case, get them to activate your Z39.50 access, and leave it running overnight. |
| 03:08 | Maybe over the weekend. | |
| 03:09 | libsysguy | ohh yeah…that'd be an awesome way to pull them all |
| 03:09 | jcamins_away | Definitely weekend. |
| 03:10 | If you could do one Z39.50 search per second, it'd take over a day. | |
| 03:10 | They usually take, what, 10 seconds? | |
| 03:10 | Crap. It'll take over a week. | |
| 03:10 | libsysguy | 0_0…hmm |
| 03:11 | maybe I can set up multiple servers to pull | |
| 03:11 | thread the process | |
| 03:11 | jcamins_away | Good thought. |
| 03:11 | libsysguy | that way its not lagging out production |
| 03:12 | jcamins_away | Yeah, definitely best to do that. |
| 03:13 | libsysguy: https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/ <-- in there is a script old/migration/fetch_marc_by_ISBN.pl | |
| 03:14 | libsysguy | haha aww she started another git repo |
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| 03:57 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4530] Circulation & fines rules aren't always applied from most specific to less specific <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4530> |
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| 04:22 | Judit | hi |
| 04:22 | wahanui | bonjour, Judit |
| 04:23 | Judit | anyone has experience with the offline circulation tool for firefox? |
| 04:24 | eythian | No one does. |
| 04:24 | Judit | :) |
| 04:25 | i will! | |
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| 04:37 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 05:08 | cait | morning #koha :) |
| 05:09 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:09 | cait | hey eythian :) |
| 05:10 | Oak | Hello Mr. Robin |
| 05:10 | Good morning miss cait :) | |
| 05:11 | cait | hi Oak :) |
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| 06:27 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7334] Improve 'No address stored' and similar messages in patron account <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7334> |
| 07:20 | AmitG | heya cait |
| 07:21 | alex_a | morning #koha ! |
| 07:22 | cait | morning alex_a and AmitG |
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| 07:51 | rangi | evening all |
| 07:54 | Oak | Tenā Koe rangi |
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| 07:59 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:59 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune |
| 08:01 | Oak | hello reiveune :) |
| 08:02 | reiveune | Hi Oak and everybody :) |
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| 08:10 | kf | back :) |
| 08:11 | rangi | paul_bed: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=6679#c32 |
| 08:11 | huginn` | 04Bug 6679: minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests |
| 08:12 | rangi | plus bug 7141 |
| 08:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7141 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " |
| 08:12 | rangi | will stop the tests complaining |
| 08:12 | paul_p | hello rangi |
| 08:12 | rangi | and should have happy jenkins again |
| 08:12 | hello :) | |
| 08:13 | kf | rangi++ |
| 08:13 | paul_p | good morning kf |
| 08:13 | kf | bonjour paul_p :) |
| 08:14 | paul_p | kf, did I tell you that my 2nd son (Nathan, 11) is learning english as 1st foreign language, and german as 2nd ? |
| 08:14 | kf | no, you didn't :) |
| 08:14 | paul_p | (he choose to start a 2nd FL at 11, it's mandatory only at 13. But his school propose this option for motivated childrens) |
| 08:14 | kf | learning german is hard |
| 08:14 | paul_p | (well, for motivated parents too ;-) ) |
| 08:15 | it's funny to see that he sometimes make mistakes in his accent: saying a german word with english accent. | |
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| 08:17 | kf | interesting |
| 08:17 | wahanui | interesting is good |
| 08:17 | kf | hehe, yeah sometimes wahanui :) |
| 08:19 | paul_p: how does he like German? | |
| 08:19 | asaurat | in southern France, choosing german is often, like latin, a way to end up in a "good" class :D |
| 08:19 | paul_p | asaurat, right. |
| 08:20 | kf | asaurat: did you learn german at school? |
| 08:20 | paul_p | (and choosing german at 11 is only for students with good results) |
| 08:21 | asaurat | kf: no, spanish :), but I took latin as 3rd language |
| 08:21 | kf | asaurat: crazy :) |
| 08:21 | ok... | |
| 08:21 | english, russian, japanese | |
| 08:21 | for me | |
| 08:21 | asaurat | crazier :D |
| 08:21 | kf | heh yes |
| 08:22 | can one of you give jonathan some chocolate? | |
| 08:22 | asaurat | russian ? were you raised in a former DDR land ? |
| 08:23 | kf | no |
| 08:23 | but you are right | |
| 08:23 | a lot of people in DDR learned russian, not very common in south germany | |
| 08:23 | but the school I was at offered it | |
| 08:24 | you could choose between French and Russian as a second language | |
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| 08:34 | francharb | morning |
| 08:35 | Oak | whoa |
| 08:35 | you speak Russian and Japanese kf ? | |
| 08:35 | paul_p | kf, chocolate to joubu ? I can do that immediatly if you explain why |
| 08:35 | Oak | morning francharb :) |
| 08:35 | paul_p | (dark chocolate with nuts) |
| 08:36 | * Oak | goes to sit in sunlight |
| 08:40 | kf | paul_p: because I failed the late order management again |
| 08:40 | * kf | sends chocolate to joubu |
| 08:40 | kf | and thx paul :) |
| 08:40 | Oak: speaking is too much... I learned russian from 7th to 11th grade, but can't really speak it and studied japanese at school and for 1 year at university | |
| 08:40 | Oak: but same there, not using it = forgetting | |
| 08:56 | Oak | ah i see |
| 08:57 | @wunder islamabad | |
| 08:57 | huginn` | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 21.0°C (1:00 PM PKT on December 08, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:57 | Oak | not very sunny |
| 08:57 | kf | sunny here :) |
| 08:57 | Oak | @wunder konstanz |
| 08:57 | huginn` | Oak: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.9°C (9:54 AM CET on December 08, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028.0 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:57 | Oak | cool |
| 08:58 | kf | ok, meeting time |
| 08:58 | * kf | kf_mtg |
| 08:58 | asaurat | @wunder vladivostok |
| 08:58 | huginn` | asaurat: The current temperature in Vladivostok, Russia is -12.0°C (7:30 PM VLAT on December 08, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:04 | paul_p | kf, chocolate given to joubu (he was at a short meeting) |
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| 10:23 | * kf | paul_p thx :) |
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| 11:20 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7259 - Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f528df45d72dfa782> / Bug 7259 - Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5d68db031f192b25> / Bug 7116: White space on item form for b |
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| 11:26 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 559 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 1 mo. 20 j ago) |
| 11:44 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5347] late order management <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5347> |
| 12:17 | AmitG | chris around? |
| 12:20 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #559: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/559/ |
| 12:20 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679: Fixing admin/aqplain :encoding(UTF-8) gives strict validation | |
| 12:20 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679: catalogue/ now passing perl critic tests | |
| 12:20 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : cataloguing/ now passing critic tests | |
| 12:20 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Adding license statement and stopping declaring variables in a conditional | |
| 12:20 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Allowing eval require | |
| 12:20 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests |
| 12:20 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 7141 : Changing test to match new formatting of xsl style sheet |
| 12:20 | * colin.campbell: Bug 6987 Make return from Overdues::GetFine consistent | |
| 12:20 | * jaker: Bug 7020 Items with no checkouts report does not output call number, barcode or item details | |
| 12:20 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7141 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " |
| 12:20 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Welcome to jon Aker (#164) + missing tabs & "releases" |
| 12:20 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7116: White space on item form for bulk ordering from staged file | |
| 12:20 | * oleonard: Bug 7259 - Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools pages | |
| 12:20 | * oleonard: Bug 7259 - Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools pages | |
| 12:20 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6987 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , C4::Overdues::GetFine returns inconsistent |
| 12:20 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7020 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, jaker, ASSIGNED , Items with no checkouts report does not output call number, barcode or item details | |
| 12:20 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7116 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Item form when ordering in batch from staged marc has lots of white space for hidden fields | |
| 12:20 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7259 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools pages | |
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| 13:15 | kf | hhmmm |
| 13:15 | reports question | |
| 13:15 | I was trying | |
| 13:15 | to build a report that would allow to choose how to sort it | |
| 13:15 | using an authorized value list sort | |
| 13:15 | and a placeholder | |
| 13:15 | but it builds something like | |
| 13:15 | s order by 'cardnumber desc' | |
| 13:16 | is there a way to avoid the '' ? | |
| 13:16 | or make it work with ''? | |
| 13:28 | * oleonard | waves to kf but has no answer |
| 13:28 | kf | hi oleonard :) |
| 13:28 | that's ok. | |
| 13:28 | perhaps a case for a enh request | |
| 13:29 | oleonard: any idea how to call that new feature? | |
| 13:30 | oleonard | I don't really even understand it |
| 13:30 | kf | a custom report |
| 13:30 | that does not ask for a branch | |
| 13:30 | or for an itemtype | |
| 13:30 | using the placeholders | |
| 13:30 | but for the way it should be ordered | |
| 13:30 | sorted | |
| 13:31 | and it does not work, because I can get a pull down and all using an authorized value in the report, but the replaced string always has '' around it | |
| 13:31 | and sql does not like that | |
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| 13:32 | oleonard | Maybe you should make the bug very general, like "Allow custom parameters for sorting in guided reports" |
| 13:34 | kf | that sounds nice :) |
| 13:39 | thx oleonard :) | |
| 13:39 | bug 7335 | |
| 13:39 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Allow custom parameters for sorting in sql reports |
| 13:46 | oleonard | If a bug fix introduces new strings does it make it inappropriate for the stable branch? |
| 13:47 | magnuse | i'd say no |
| 13:48 | bugs should be fixed | |
| 13:49 | oleonard | But with an edge case like Bug 7083 it might be reason enough to reject it |
| 13:49 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7083 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Show creator name on list of public lists |
| 13:49 | paul_p | oleonard, not at all. |
| 13:49 | => a bugfix is always OK for stable branch | |
| 13:55 | kf | magnuse: we do translation |
| 13:55 | arg | |
| 13:55 | oleonard: new strings are ok for bugfix releases | |
| 13:55 | magnuse | at least we try to... ;-) |
| 13:56 | kf | oleonard: we update the po files between releases :) |
| 13:56 | oleonard: there are only some time lines, so some days before the release no string changes | |
| 13:56 | and hi magnuse :) home now? | |
| 13:56 | oleonard | Okay, I wasn't sure with the stable releases. |
| 13:57 | magnuse | kf: yup |
| 13:58 | gah, how i wish norwegians used english so i didn't have to worry about translations... | |
| 13:58 | jcamins_away | magnuse: how do you handle translations with the packages? |
| 13:59 | magnuse | um, hardly... |
| 13:59 | oleonard | All those Norwegian voice actors would be out of work if they didn't have American TV to dub |
| 13:59 | magnuse | catalyst hav been working on integrating translations into the packaging process |
| 13:59 | huh? we only dub children's movies! | |
| 13:59 | and tv-series | |
| 14:00 | kf | wish we would do the same |
| 14:00 | jcamins_away | magnuse: yeah, I know that, but you're using packages for NORMARC installations, aren't you? So you must be doing something. |
| 14:00 | oleonard | If Americans were forced to READ the television there would be nationwide revolt on an unprecedented scale. |
| 14:00 | magnuse | i have been using the stuff on this branch: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]eads/wr83663-l10n |
| 14:00 | jcamins_away | oleonard: alas, I think that is true. |
| 14:00 | oleonard | Hence the creation of a duplicate "Girl with the dragon tattoo" movie. |
| 14:01 | jcamins_away | magnuse: thanks. |
| 14:01 | magnuse | yeah, lots of scandinavian movies are re-done in the us |
| 14:01 | weird! | |
| 14:02 | jcamins_away: i think that work is pretty complete now, i hope eythian and srdjan will get around to submitting a patch | |
| 14:02 | well, not lots, but some... | |
| 14:03 | francis ford coppola is going to make a film based on a book by our most popular crime author (jo nesbø) though! | |
| 14:05 | oleonard | Hey, we have a few of those in our collection |
| 14:07 | * jcamins_away | rediscovers the fact that there's no intranet XSLT stylesheet. |
| 14:08 | oleonard | Sure there is jcamins |
| 14:08 | jcamins | Results stylesheet. |
| 14:08 | wizzyrea | mornin |
| 14:08 | oleonard | jcamins: The results one is in-progress. There's a bug and patch for it if you'd like to help |
| 14:08 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, I know. I just had forgotten. |
| 14:12 | oleonard | Uh oh... Is making a patron debarred broken in master? |
| 14:12 | jcamins | Uh-oh. That would be bad. |
| 14:12 | After I test my patch for bug 7332, I'll check for you. | |
| 14:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7332 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Translated title (MARC21 field 242) doesn't display |
| 14:13 | * jcamins | sees what kf was talking about. |
| 14:13 | jcamins | Whoah! |
| 14:13 | oleonard++ | |
| 14:13 | That's *beautiful*! | |
| 14:13 | oleonard | ? |
| 14:13 | jcamins | Suggestions pending approval, Tags pending approval. |
| 14:13 | wizzyrea | i like it too :) |
| 14:13 | oleonard++ | |
| 14:14 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | how are you going about making a patron debarred oleonard |
| 14:14 | oh, and btw | |
| 14:14 | I made a testing db for running unit tests. | |
| 14:14 | jcamins | Hey, someone restyled the framework thing, too? |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | it's in bugzilla |
| 14:15 | jcamins | That could've been a while ago. I don't recall the last time I looked at frameworks. |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | bug 7333 |
| 14:15 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7333 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Cleaning up tests to use sample data |
| 14:16 | oleonard | I edit my patron record and checked the 'debarred' radio button (but didn't put in a debarred until date) |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | ah, sounds like fine in days? |
| 14:16 | oleonard | It seemed to have not worked, but now I can't log in as that user |
| 14:16 | * wizzyrea | will try it |
| 14:16 | oleonard | Don't try with your only superlibrarian user |
| 14:17 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 14:17 | oleonard | It breaks access to the OPAC for that user too |
| 14:17 | jcamins | That's bad. |
| 14:18 | oleonard | Not even free frogurt with that. |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | hm that seems odd |
| 14:18 | oleonard | Interesting... borrowers.debarred for that patron record is set to 127. |
| 14:21 | I must have missed a database update? | |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 14:21 | I'm not having any trouble | |
| 14:21 | and I just fetched | |
| 14:21 | do note, it was a "regular" patron | |
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| 14:23 | wizzyrea | hm but that is weird |
| 14:23 | the patron I debarred | |
| 14:23 | jcamins | kf: weren't you just thinking you wanted to sign off on bug 7332? :P |
| 14:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7332 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, NEW , Translated title (MARC21 field 242) doesn't display |
| 14:23 | * oleonard | sets back his koha version and lets updates run |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/QKvVMFzTbi |
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| 14:27 | wizzyrea | oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/7SlsPBavSnT |
| 14:27 | it looks like it's working for me | |
| 14:27 | except for the "debarred until 9999" thing | |
| 14:27 | oleonard | Yeah, it was a database problem. I didn't get the update that converted debarred to a date field. |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | oh I see |
| 14:28 | ok, well we still have a problem with the date | |
| 14:28 | display | |
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| 14:31 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7332] Translated title (MARC21 field 242) doesn't display <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7332> |
| 14:31 | oleonard | That looks like an easy template fix wizzyrea |
| 14:31 | * oleonard | tinkers |
| 14:32 | wizzyrea | cool, I'll file the bug for you :) |
| 14:33 | sekjal | morning, #koha |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | bug 7337 oleonard |
| 14:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , "Debarred Until" display in the opac tells patrons they are debarred until the year 9999 |
| 14:34 | oleonard | Thanks wizzyrea |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | yw |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | hi there |
| 14:42 | * wizzyrea | just had to use a ball point pen to stir her coffee because she could not find a spoon |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | ink side up, of course :P |
| 14:42 | chris_n | g'morning |
| 14:42 | jcamins | wizzyrea: "You know you're a librarian when..." |
| 14:42 | ? | |
| 14:43 | chris_n | did someone say "coffee"? |
| 14:43 | jcamins: when every time you hear a book title, you immediately think of its call number? | |
| 14:44 | oleonard | Is the GBSD twitter account supposed to stop tweeting after GBSD is over? |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | I kind of like it actually :P |
| 14:44 | jcamins | chris_n: I was thinking "when your preferred sweetener for your coffee is ink." |
| 14:46 | chris_n | yuk |
| 14:46 | jcamins | chris_n: yeah, I guess neither of us are *real* librarians like wizzyrea. ;) |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | pfft |
| 14:46 | chris_n | we need a way to do a blanket due date change on all outstanding issues |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | can't you do that with circ rules? |
| 14:46 | oh existing ones | |
| 14:46 | nm | |
| 14:46 | jcamins | chris_n: don't we have a script that does that? |
| 14:46 | * chris_n | has not seen it |
| 14:47 | chris_n | but will gladly accept directions :) |
| 14:47 | right, existing | |
| 14:47 | ie. our library closes over the break and requires the return of all materials | |
| 14:47 | jcamins | sekjal: don't we have a script that changes the due date globally so that the transition to hard due dates was painless? |
| 14:47 | chris_n | some patrons seem not to be able to understand that |
| 14:48 | since the due date is set after the close date by default | |
| 14:48 | sekjal | jcamins: was part of the database update |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | chris_n: in the future you probably want to set up your circ rules to compensate for that |
| 14:48 | because you can set your hard due date at the beginning of the semester and pretty well forget about it | |
| 14:48 | jcamins | sekjal: ohhh. Thanks. I knew there was some sort of transitional thing. |
| 14:49 | chris_n | ok, I missed the hard due date feature |
| 14:49 | * wizzyrea | sounds like she's from an infomercial this morning |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | "set it, and forget it!" |
| 14:49 | * chris_n | wonders what other wonderful features are lurking in koha that he's missed |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | manual? |
| 14:49 | wahanui | i heard manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 14:49 | chris_n | lol |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | j/k <3 |
| 14:50 | chris_n | :-) |
| 14:50 | hand me a cup of coffee and I won't hold it against you ;-) | |
| 14:50 | uh | |
| 14:50 | without the pen please | |
| 14:50 | * wizzyrea | hands chris_n a cup of coffee and runs away |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | (no pen) |
| 14:50 | (find your own spoon) | |
| 14:51 | oleonard | chris_n: Do you take it black? Or blue? |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | or silver? |
| 14:51 | chris_n | sometimes both :P |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | depends on how strong it is |
| 14:51 | oleonard | Sparkle pink gel coffee? |
| 14:51 | chris_n | hehe |
| 14:51 | kf | hmmm |
| 14:51 | bug 5347 | |
| 14:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , late order management |
| 14:52 | kf | we have a disgreement here :) some more opinions needed :) |
| 14:53 | alex_a | does anyone know why "acqui/fetch_sort_dropbox.pl" no more exists in koha 3.6 |
| 14:53 | ? | |
| 14:53 | kf | what's it supposed to do? |
| 14:53 | and not sure alex_a - what does git say? | |
| 14:54 | * oleonard | wonders if there's a good way to get git to tell you when something was removed |
| 14:54 | * wizzyrea | was wondering the same thing |
| 14:54 | chris_n | its not possible afaik |
| 14:54 | kf | alex_a: now you distracted everyone from my bug question! :) |
| 14:54 | jcamins | git log -- acqui/fetch_sort_dropbox.pl |
| 14:55 | alex_a | lol |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | git log --diff-filter=D --summary |
| 14:55 | chris_n | does that work jcamins |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | says googlez |
| 14:55 | kf | hm it's stilll inked from acq.js |
| 14:55 | alex_a | git log -p | grep fetch_sort_dropbox.pl give me so many things |
| 14:55 | jcamins | chris_n: seems to. |
| 14:55 | chris_n | very nice |
| 14:55 | jcamins | It does something, anyway. |
| 14:55 | chris_n | heh |
| 14:56 | jcamins | Everything to do with acquisitions is gibberish, so I can't say if it's telling us the correct things. |
| 14:56 | alex_a | jcamins: thx :) |
| 14:56 | kf | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]sort_dropbox&sr=1 |
| 14:56 | jcamins | alex_a: you're welcome. |
| 14:57 | * chris_n | breaks down and reads the manual |
| 14:58 | chris_n | a cool enh would be to link the name of the syspref in the admin interface to the exact spot in the online docs |
| 14:58 | wizzyrea | oh, that would be cool. |
| 14:58 | chris_n | or even have a tool-tip which contained the basic description |
| 14:59 | kf | both cool ideas |
| 14:59 | but make it fetch the description from the manual perhaps... | |
| 15:00 | chris_n | hmm |
| 15:00 | am I missing something or is there no help for ceilingDueDate in the 3.6 manual? | |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | ceiling due date i think is not what you're looking for |
| 15:00 | chris_n | globalDueDate |
| 15:00 | ? | |
| 15:00 | jcamins | No, I think that's right. |
| 15:01 | It's the latest date on which something can be due. | |
| 15:01 | chris_n | ceiling sounds like what I want, but I'm not sure what I want |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/pI6mPd2D4gge |
| 15:01 | chris_n | opps |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | that could suck if you have lots of rules |
| 15:01 | chris_n | the production system is not at that version yet :P |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | oic |
| 15:02 | chris_n | so ceilingDueDate won't work you think? |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | well it should |
| 15:02 | in theory | |
| 15:02 | jcamins | chris_n: I don't see it in the manual either. |
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| 15:03 | chris_n | well, we'll find out if that works |
| 15:03 | a description sure would be nice, though... for those who are not risk takers | |
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| 15:04 | chris_n | just got to remember to unset it when they open back up :) |
| 15:04 | jcamins | @later tell nengard Are hard due dates documented in the manual? |
| 15:04 | huginn` | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:04 | nengard | jcamins yes |
| 15:04 | jcamins | nengard: oh, you're here. |
| 15:04 | nengard | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#circfinerules |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | yea, but that's not the syspref ceilingduedate |
| 15:05 | chris_n: what version *is* your production using? | |
| 15:05 | nengard | didn't we remove the ceilingduedate preference? |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | because I'm pretty sure the manuals for all of the 3.2+ versions are available |
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| 15:05 | wizzyrea | perhaps you were poking at the wrong one ;) |
| 15:05 | jcamins | nengard: tell larryb to check the expiration headers on manual.k-c.org. |
| 15:05 | chris_n | from the commit message: This adds a feature and system preference: ceilingDueDate. If this is |
| 15:05 | set to a valid ( according to dateformat syspref ) date, then calculated | |
| 15:05 | due dates will be less than this date. | |
| 15:05 | sekjal | global and ceiling due dates were removed in favour of the Hard Due Dates dev |
| 15:06 | chris_n | ahh |
| 15:06 | sekjal | this puts the controls for such behaviour at the circ matrix level, instead of a system-wide level |
| 15:06 | chris_n | that's what I get for running an old version |
| 15:06 | jcamins | nengard: the reason I didn't see it is that I had a *really old* version cached. |
| 15:06 | sekjal | also adds "floor due date" |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]on.html#circprefs |
| 15:06 | ctrl-f -> ceiling | |
| 15:06 | alex_a | found ! bug 6181 |
| 15:06 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6181 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , Remove CGI::scrolling_list from C4:Budgets |
| 15:06 | jcamins | chris_n: sorry, I thought we were talking about hard due dates all along. |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | hey! that's the one I thought it was! |
| 15:07 | :D | |
| 15:07 | talljoy | wizzyrea: am thinking point side up is worse. the open ink container is pointing down then right into the coffee. |
| 15:07 | * alex_a | don't understand why fetch_sort_dropbox.pl has been deleted |
| 15:07 | * jcamins | didn't know about the syspref. |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | well, it has a cap on it |
| 15:07 | :P | |
| 15:07 | it's one of those bic ones | |
| 15:07 | * talljoy | notes she is way behind in her reading....oops |
| 15:08 | jcamins | nengard: Apache expiration headers, I mean. |
| 15:08 | chris_n | k, thanks for the help all |
| 15:08 | oleonard | alex_a: Are you sure it ever existed? |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | it did, it was removed in bug 6181 |
| 15:08 | oleonard | Oh sorry, not keeping up. |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | all good |
| 15:09 | oleonard | alex_a: Looks like it was probably just a mistake |
| 15:09 | alex_a | oleonard: yes. i found the patch: |
| 15:09 | --- a/acqui/fetch_sort_dropbox.pl +++ /dev/null | |
| 15:10 | hop ... deleted | |
| 15:11 | * alex_a | believes oleonard is right |
| 15:11 | chris_n | it shouldn't be too hard to revert |
| 15:12 | alex_a | chris_n: nope indeed. but i want to see why it has been delete before |
| 15:13 | and make sure i can revert that | |
| 15:13 | paul_p | alex_a & chris_n => I feel it has be deleted silently, without anyone caring |
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| 15:13 | libsysguy | morning #Koha |
| 15:14 | chris_n | howdy libsysguy |
| 15:14 | paul_p | it was announced 3 subs were deleted, I (when QAing seem to have miss a file had been deleted as well !) |
| 15:14 | libsysguy | paul_p that doesn't sound good |
| 15:15 | hey chris_n | |
| 15:15 | chris_n | maybe we need to pay our QA folks more :-) |
| 15:15 | or at least give them more chocolate or some such | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | Does this revised debarred statement make sense? http://screencast.com/t/gbCHdM8Jgfji |
| 15:15 | I'm trying to integrate the comment clearly | |
| 15:15 | jcamins | chocolate++ |
| 15:15 | alex_a | chris_n: lol |
| 15:16 | chris_n | seems very clear to me oleonard |
| 15:16 | nengard | oleonard that is cute :) |
| 15:16 | and clear | |
| 15:16 | what happens if they are automatically restricted (from overdues) | |
| 15:16 | chris_n | maybe add "this means you!" |
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| 15:16 | nengard | and it should say 'lift restriction' on the button |
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| 15:16 | nengard | not debarment since we removed that language |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | indeed |
| 15:17 | oleonard | Yeah |
| 15:17 | * sekjal | is motivated by chocolate |
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| 15:18 | * paul_p | start working on cataloguing plugins that make hugin complain... |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | seems fine to me |
| 15:19 | paul_p | sekjal, did you see my comments on bug 7170 ? |
| 15:19 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7170 normal, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Remove use of XML::Simple |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | but yea, nengard's right it should say "restriction" |
| 15:19 | instead of debarment | |
| 15:19 | sekjal | paul_p: not yet, still getting through my morning email backlog |
| 15:19 | paul_p | The more I investigate,the more I feel that the solution is persistency ! |
| 15:20 | (which I was sure since a long time, but now, numbers tend to prove this feeling) | |
| 15:21 | sekjal | so perhaps the other implementation that rangi referenced on bug 6193 would be more effective |
| 15:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables |
| 15:22 | sekjal | kf++ (for signoff on bug 7093). thanks! |
| 15:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7093 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , Placeholders for suggestion table in suggestion related mails broken |
| 15:24 | paul_p | sekjal, I don't think so, memcache means one more http request to call memcache server, it usually show no speed improvement. |
| 15:24 | nengard | self around? |
| 15:24 | or slef :) | |
| 15:24 | * jcamins | looks at bug 1633. |
| 15:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Add ability to take book cover images from local img db |
| 15:25 | sekjal | paul_p: as I recall, I was surprised by the difference in the NYT::Prof numbers and the actual execution time on the page |
| 15:25 | well, it was an interesting experiment | |
| 15:25 | jcamins | Hm. I guess kmkale won't be around for another 12 hours, will he? |
| 15:26 | kf | sekjal: thx to you! |
| 15:26 | sekjal: we are 'almost' there now - the available is still missing | |
| 15:27 | * chris_n | forgets the verbose switch and then stares blankly a the screen wondering why there was no output |
| 15:27 | nengard | @later tell slef i really need some kohacon dates so i can put it on my calendar - things are filling up fast fast fast and i can't leave the whole month open |
| 15:27 | huginn` | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:28 | sekjal | kf: AVAILABLE notice should work if it's triggered. the trick is making sure it's triggered (I think) |
| 15:28 | jcamins | Thoughts on me modifying bug 1633 to allow non-cover images as well? |
| 15:28 | kf | nengard: check the meeting protocol from yesterday |
| 15:28 | sekjal: yes, the trigger is broken | |
| 15:28 | oleonard | jcamins: non-cover images? |
| 15:28 | kf | sekjal: the status is not set, I tried receive and an additional check in |
| 15:29 | nengard | meeting protocol? |
| 15:29 | jcamins | oleonard: yes, so that you could store additional images of an item. |
| 15:29 | nengard: minutes. | |
| 15:29 | nengard | k |
| 15:29 | are they on the wiki? | |
| 15:29 | jcamins | meeting minutes? |
| 15:29 | Ah well. | |
| 15:29 | They should be linked on the wiki, at least. | |
| 15:29 | kf | or irc logs? |
| 15:29 | wahanui | irc logs are ibot's friend :) or at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 15:30 | oleonard | jcamins: What would you change? Storage of more than one image? |
| 15:30 | kf | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]11-12-07#i_836614 |
| 15:30 | jcamins | oleonard: yes. |
| 15:30 | nengard | the minutes don't say a date: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-12-07-18.00.html |
| 15:31 | and the wiki doesn't link to the right part of the log: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_7_December_2011 | |
| 15:31 | oleonard | "Yeah. I thought we had an agreement, but then what we were mailed diverged in some important ways, so round we go again. I'm 98% sure we'll be 5th-11th June 2012." |
| 15:31 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]11-12-07#i_836628 | |
| 15:32 | wizzyrea | oh |
| 15:32 | the logs have moved | |
| 15:32 | to irc.koha-community.org | |
| 15:32 | /irclog | |
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| 15:34 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7337] "Debarred Until" display in the opac tells patrons they are debarred until the year 9999 <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7337> |
| 15:34 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 15:34 | jcamins | oleonard: and add a tab for showing additional images, I think. |
| 15:34 | Oak | @seen druthb |
| 15:34 | huginn` | Oak: druthb was last seen in #koha 2 days, 21 hours, 41 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <druthb> :D |
| 15:34 | oleonard | jcamins: The way Amazon handles it could be a model |
| 15:34 | Oak | how was the meeting kf? |
| 15:34 | jcamins | oleonard: how does Amazon handle it? |
| 15:35 | kf | Oak: ok :) |
| 15:35 | Oak | ok :) |
| 15:35 | oleonard | jcamins: http://www.amazon.com/k/dp/B003ZSP0WW/ |
| 15:36 | jcamins | oleonard: oh, I see what you mean. |
| 15:36 | Yeah, that would be very cool. | |
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| 15:54 | jcamins | What size are cover images supposed to be? |
| 15:54 | wizzyrea | oh speaking of cover size images |
| 15:54 | openlibrary | |
| 15:54 | it's using the small one | |
| 15:54 | we should probably be using medium | |
| 15:54 | * jcamins | is looking at local cover images, not openlibrary. :P |
| 15:55 | wizzyrea | :) I figured as much but I just remembered what I had discovered when testing openlibrary. |
| 15:55 | the images are smaaal | |
| 15:55 | l | |
| 15:55 | jcamins | 173x121? What an odd size. |
| 15:57 | Hmmm... | |
| 15:58 | sekjal | wizzyrea and oleonard re: bug 7337. 'debarred' field is also used in the opac/opac-user.tt for overdues to indicate account is frozen |
| 15:59 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7337 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , "Debarred Until" display in the opac tells patrons they are debarred until the year 9999 |
| 15:59 | sekjal | not sure if that's the same debarred or not |
| 15:59 | can you confirm that a debarred user with items still checked out gets an "account frozen" message in their overdues table? | |
| 16:00 | jcamins | sekjal: what's your philosophy on major revisions to someone else's patch as a counter-proposal? |
| 16:00 | oleonard | sekjal: I was testing with a user with overdues, setting debarred, debarred with a date, debarred with a comment, etc. |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Uhhh... where is the Koha namespace? |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | ^^ was wondering that myself |
| 16:01 | kf | hm |
| 16:01 | I think in kohaclone? | |
| 16:01 | or your directory | |
| 16:01 | * oleonard | checks under his desk |
| 16:01 | kf | same level as C4? |
| 16:01 | jcamins | kf: that's what I would've thought. |
| 16:02 | kf | is it in yet? |
| 16:02 | sekjal | the Koha namespace would be at the same level as C4 |
| 16:02 | jcamins | sekjal: heeeeellllllpppp!!!! |
| 16:02 | sekjal | none of our current patches have created it yet, though |
| 16:02 | * jcamins | is feeling very excitable, apparently. |
| 16:02 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 16:02 | Okay. | |
| 16:02 | sekjal | hourly loans and the accounts rewrite both plan to make use of it |
| 16:02 | jcamins | So I didn't do anything disastrous. |
| 16:02 | sekjal | hopefully so too will Solr |
| 16:02 | jcamins | How does one create a new namespace? |
| 16:02 | Can I see it in hourly loans? | |
| 16:02 | sekjal | jcamins: just add a Koha directory parallel to C4 |
| 16:03 | fill with modules | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Ah. Cool. |
| 16:03 | Thanks. | |
| 16:03 | * jcamins | resists the urge to bludgeon all the cover images stuff into the Koha namespace. |
| 16:04 | sekjal | I'd like for the community to agree on a structure to the namespace before we start rushing to populate it |
| 16:04 | oleonard | Oh, who wants to know about a new error with SQLHelper? :) |
| 16:04 | sekjal | would be best to separate out tranactional logic from database access |
| 16:04 | oleonard: ::sigh:: do tell | |
| 16:04 | * chris_n | runs away screaming |
| 16:05 | jcamins | sekjal: I am implementing this now. I can either use modules, or, as kmkale's proposal did, put all the logic directly in .pl files. |
| 16:05 | oleonard | Just an error in the log, I don't think it's actually serious. |
| 16:05 | sekjal | jcamins: any subroutines should be pull out into a module |
| 16:05 | oleonard | memberentry.pl: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/SQLHelper.pm line 361 |
| 16:05 | nengard | woa - just did a fetch and see that i have tags and suggestions waiting on my staff client homepage |
| 16:05 | time for some new manual edits!!! :) | |
| 16:05 | jcamins | sekjal: Koha::Covers::Local it is, then. |
| 16:05 | sekjal | nengard: I know, right?! pretty neat |
| 16:06 | nengard | neat - but it's bugging me the way it looks :) |
| 16:06 | oleonard | Uh oh |
| 16:06 | Lay it on me | |
| 16:06 | nengard | the right column is longer than the left now and I'm nuts - it's just unbalanced |
| 16:06 | oleonard - totally not you - all me :) hehe | |
| 16:06 | * jcamins | agrees. |
| 16:06 | nengard | that i'm nuts? :) |
| 16:06 | oleonard | Oh that's easy nengard, just take away your own cataloging privileges and it'll even up ;) |
| 16:07 | nengard | LOL |
| 16:07 | oleonard | Or you could think of it as incentive to deal with those pending operations? |
| 16:07 | MUST. BALANCE. COLUMNS! | |
| 16:07 | nengard | Exactly!! |
| 16:07 | see how jcamins didn't answer my question ? | |
| 16:08 | oleonard | Next I'll add some CSS so that as the numbers go higher the blue changes to yellow, then red. |
| 16:08 | jcamins | nengard: I don't know what you're talking about. |
| 16:08 | nengard | oleonard do comments show too? |
| 16:08 | HA! | |
| 16:09 | * wizzyrea | mutters about not being able to find any items to check out because she needs to reindex her test server. |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | this is what making test databases does for you. |
| 16:09 | MUCKS IT ALL UP. | |
| 16:09 | * wizzyrea | mutters more |
| 16:10 | nengard | :( |
| 16:10 | wizzyrea | :) all ok, just had to let that out -- all fixed now though! |
| 16:10 | whoot! | |
| 16:12 | sekjal | wizzyrea: in my (non-existent) free time, I want to write a koha database sanity check test script to run against production systems. |
| 16:12 | might be complementary to your project | |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 16:13 | sekjal | check for things like item values corresponding to proper AV values, codes in all caps, no trailing whitespace in codes, etc |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | basically that test db I made has 11x bibs in it and a serial subscription. |
| 16:13 | the rest is sample data | |
| 16:13 | which makes me think | |
| 16:13 | sekjal | also, for some of the more esoteric data structure restrictions in accountlines and reserves that aren't enforced by the DB |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | that it might be just as well to add a tickbox of optional data "for testing" |
| 16:14 | oleonard | I have a home-grown PHP script that checks ccodes and itemtypes against authorised values |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | oo |
| 16:14 | I like all of these things. | |
| 16:14 | oleonard | Useful because we import most of our MARC data |
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| 16:16 | wizzyrea | possibly :) |
| 16:16 | kf | grr |
| 16:17 | why does every block in memberentry have an id except for the main adress? | |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | oleonard++ love that pending stuff to do display |
| 16:18 | so great. | |
| 16:19 | paul_p | chris_n ? |
| 16:19 | wahanui | release maintainer for 3.2, 3.4, and 3.6. |
| 16:19 | chris_n | hi paul_p |
| 16:19 | paul_p | hi chris_n. I don't understand: your comment to 6679: The latest round of patches for this bug do not apply cleanly to 3.6.x. Please |
| 16:19 | attach corrected patches to this bug report. | |
| 16:19 | where do you get the patches from ? | |
| 16:20 | the git branch ? | |
| 16:20 | kf | wb paul_p |
| 16:20 | paul_p | kf, why back ? I never left (at least today) ! |
| 16:20 | chris_n | paul_p: five hours ago there were three commits from 6679 to master |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea | so ok, we are eliminating debarred as a word? |
| 16:20 | chris_n | they don't apply to 3.6.x cleanly |
| 16:20 | kf | hm. ok |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea | replacing it with restricted? |
| 16:20 | nengard | yes |
| 16:20 | chris_n | hence my request |
| 16:20 | kf | ignore it then ;) |
| 16:20 | nengard | i thought we had done that already ? replaced debarred with restricted |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | it's still in the member edit screen |
| 16:21 | chris_n | paul_p: actually 4 commits |
| 16:21 | nengard | uh oh! :) |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | and on the button to "lift debarment" |
| 16:21 | kf | perhaps crept back in with fine in days? |
| 16:21 | nengard | maybe |
| 16:21 | paul_p | I understood that. What I don't understand is where do you get your patches from. The branch on git or the attached patches ? |
| 16:21 | nengard | cause i know i removed it from the button before |
| 16:21 | and i thought the patron edit page as well | |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | possibly |
| 16:21 | either way | |
| 16:21 | wahanui | i guess either way is workable though imho |
| 16:22 | chris_n | paul_p: I always cherry-pick from master unless there is something specific to the maintenance branch code |
| 16:22 | wizzyrea | i'll nuke it out :) |
| 16:22 | again | |
| 16:22 | * oleonard | gets distracted by his report of records with invalid item types |
| 16:23 | chris_n | paul_p: if a commit does not cherry-pick cleanly, the bug report gets a comment to that effect requesting the author to rebase and reformat if the patch should apply to the maintenance branch |
| 16:23 | wizzyrea | sekjal: i'm not sure what you're asking about re: overdues? |
| 16:23 | and the debarment? | |
| 16:23 | paul_p | chris_n, mmm... which cherry pick fail ? |
| 16:23 | chris_n | all three |
| 16:23 | four | |
| 16:23 | sorry | |
| 16:24 | no need to loose time over it; rangi will fix them up | |
| 16:24 | paul_p | the fact is that I had problem to apply them, and rangi told me I should merge master onto new/bug_6679 first, then apply them. I did that, and it worked well from here. |
| 16:24 | chris_n, I hope. | |
| 16:25 | jcamins | chris_n: did you write picture-upload.pl? |
| 16:25 | chris_n | that's because the procedure you all are using to push to master is different |
| 16:25 | paul_p | (and jenkins still complaining, but i've submitted a patch for the 3 complains, that are unimarc plugin related -missing use strict-) |
| 16:25 | sekjal | wizzyrea: if a patron is debarred, they should get that message in the OPAC (as it's been fixed now), but if they have overdues, their renewal button in the overdues table should be "Account Frozen" instead of anything actionable |
| 16:25 | chris_n | paul_p: but don't worry :) |
| 16:25 | wizzyrea | ohh |
| 16:25 | ok thanks will check | |
| 16:25 | chris_n | jcamins: do I want to claim ownership? |
| 16:26 | jcamins: "long, long ago, and in a galaxy far, far away..." | |
| 16:26 | wizzyrea | and you are saying that it's not working? (I seem to have observed that it does not) |
| 16:26 | (as I was just able to renew an item) | |
| 16:27 | jcamins | chris_n: excellent. I'm trying to decide whether it's best to pass file names or the contents of files to a new C4 module I am creating. |
| 16:27 | wizzyrea | (for a debarred patron) |
| 16:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 17 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
| 16:27 | chris_n | jcamins: refresh my memory on where that file is and I'll look |
| 16:27 | jcamins | chris_n: to clarify, this is for cover images, which uses code copy-pasted from picture-upload.pl. |
| 16:28 | tools/picture-upload.pl. | |
| 16:28 | chris_n | "STILL UNSTABLE" *sigh* |
| 16:28 | jcamins | Incidentally, there's a bug in the image resize code. |
| 16:28 | oleonard | sekjal is right wizzyrea, I need to go back and revise |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | kk |
| 16:28 | sorry I missed that :/ | |
| 16:28 | oleonard | Me too :) |
| 16:28 | chris_n | jcamins: actually, I only did a massive bit of reworking on it |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ for catching it |
| 16:29 | "massive bit" | |
| 16:29 | jcamins | chris_n: ah, denying ownership now that you've seen it? :P |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | sorry, RESTRICTED patron. |
| 16:29 | keke | |
| 16:30 | chris_n | jcamins: hard to tell |
| 16:31 | jcamins: I think I was working off of some cut-and-paste | |
| 16:31 | but I am responsible for the larger part of any mess there | |
| 16:31 | jcamins | chris_n: heh. So I'm working on a cut-and-paste of your cut-and-paste. |
| 16:31 | I'm passing the source image in. | |
| 16:31 | chris_n | yeah, and it is ugly |
| 16:32 | passing around a blob of the images is best in my experience | |
| 16:32 | /images/image/ | |
| 16:32 | jcamins | Better to pass around the GD::Image or the data? |
| 16:32 | chris_n | once its a GD object you can do all sorts of manipulations to it |
| 16:33 | jcamins | GD::Image, then? |
| 16:33 | chris_n | the object |
| 16:33 | jcamins | Cool. |
| 16:33 | chris_n | right-o |
| 16:33 | jcamins | That's much easier. |
| 16:33 | oleonard | I remember fixing this bug with restricted opac users and renewals once before. |
| 16:33 | jcamins | If you said "data," my next question was going to be "how?" ;) |
| 16:33 | chris_n | I'm safe: |
| 16:33 | =head1 AUTHORS | |
| 16:33 | 306 | |
| 16:33 | 307 Original contributor(s) undocumented | |
| 16:33 | 308 | |
| 16:33 | jcamins: I did write a routine to store them as blobs in the db | |
| 16:33 | which is really cool | |
| 16:34 | and then a routine to push them out to the templates | |
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| 16:34 | chris_n | some folks don't think we should burden the db with large blobs, however |
| 16:34 | * oleonard | has heard that recommended against before |
| 16:34 | chris_n | never did any performance testing on it, though |
| 16:35 | kf | soemthing is wrong with my jquery ( |
| 16:35 | * chris_n | always argued that your HDD structure is a db |
| 16:35 | jcamins | chris_n: if they come up with another way of storing large pieces of data, they are welcome to share that. |
| 16:35 | kf | found it |
| 16:37 | chris_n | jcamins: here's the routine to get a db image out to the template if you care to look at it: http://tinyurl.com/brzvpyv |
| 16:37 | * jcamins | suspects that that code was copied wholesale as well. |
| 16:38 | chris_n | no |
| 16:38 | that is original | |
| 16:38 | jcamins | No, I mean, I suspect that kmkale copied that routine wholeslae from *you*. |
| 16:38 | s/wholeslae/wholesale/ | |
| 16:38 | chris_n | ahh |
| 16:39 | wizzyrea | anybody have objections to this edit to the sign off howto page on the wiki: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng_off_on_patches |
| 16:40 | chris_n | probably should include 'prove xt as well |
| 16:40 | ' | |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea | k |
| 16:41 | chris_n | looks good otherwise to me |
| 16:42 | * chris_n | notes that the "Test It" subsection is rather barren |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | hehe yea |
| 16:43 | oleonard | I've seen Drupal modules with more documentation than that! Oh wait, no I haven't. |
| 16:44 | chris_n | lol |
| 16:45 | * wizzyrea | was always concerned about what exactly the responsibility of the signoffer was |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | thought I'd make it a bit more clear, since we had that lovely discussion yesterday. |
| 16:45 | "omg they'll cane me if I miss something!" | |
| 16:46 | oleonard: what was your new problem with sqlhelper? | |
| 16:48 | oleonard | A pretty odd case, and just an error in the log I think. |
| 16:48 | * jcamins | ponders error-handling. |
| 16:48 | oleonard | If you have a patron who is debarred and has a debarred unil date... |
| 16:48 | ...and you change debarred to 'no' without deleting the debarred date you'll see the error in the log | |
| 16:49 | ...but it doesn't prevent the removal of the debarred flag | |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | hrm |
| 16:49 | oleonard | ...and it *does* remove the debarred until date |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | this is "fine in days" right? |
| 16:49 | or is that something else | |
| 16:49 | oleonard | I think that's something else |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | okies |
| 16:50 | this is "I want to ban that kid who threw the computer across the room for a week" | |
| 16:50 | oleonard | That's a long time to be throwing a computer across the room. |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | hence why he's banned. |
| 16:51 | chris_n | grammar++ |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | fine |
| 16:52 | "i want to ban that kid for a week because he threw the computer across the room" | |
| 16:52 | feel better? ;) | |
| 16:53 | chris_n | well, sometimes folks do let things go on a bit longer than maybe one would think they should... |
| 16:53 | * jcamins | prefers to give kids the benefit of the doubt for a little while. |
| 16:53 | oleonard | http://cdn.thegloss.com/files/2011/09/jfk.jpg |
| 16:54 | * jcamins | awards the "weirdest error handling EVAR" prize to the code that chris_n borrowed. |
| 16:55 | * chris_n | wonders |
| 16:55 | * wizzyrea | laughs |
| 16:56 | chris_n | food calling, bbiab |
| 17:00 | * jcamins | adds additional features and reduces the SLOC. |
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| 17:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #17: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/17/ |
| 17:09 | * paul.poulain: Jenkins complaining = fixing number of tests | |
| 17:09 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Allowing eval require | |
| 17:09 | * colin.campbell: Bug 6987 Make return from Overdues::GetFine consistent | |
| 17:09 | * jaker: Bug 7020 Items with no checkouts report does not output call number, barcode or item details | |
| 17:09 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7116: White space on item form for bulk ordering from staged file | |
| 17:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests |
| 17:09 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Bug 7259 - Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools pages |
| 17:09 | * oleonard: Bug 7259 - Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools pages | |
| 17:09 | * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.02.000 08 Dec 2011 16:17:37 Z | |
| 17:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6987 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , C4::Overdues::GetFine returns inconsistent |
| 17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7020 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, jaker, ASSIGNED , Items with no checkouts report does not output call number, barcode or item details | |
| 17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7116 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Item form when ordering in batch from staged marc has lots of white space for hidden fields | |
| 17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7259 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Show a count of items pending approval on staff client home and tools pages | |
| 17:09 | oleonard | Man I am so distractable today. Don't show me anything shiny. |
| 17:10 | rhcl_away | http://static.zenimax.com/beth[…]/bright_shiny.jpg |
| 17:12 | oleonard | Okay, funny story: My family and I were doing the tourist thing in Chicago and visiting the Bean, taking pictures etc. |
| 17:12 | jcamins | Does anyone have at their fingertips an example of getting a Perl list out of MySQL? |
| 17:12 | oleonard | This young Japanese woman is having her picture taken, she asks my kids to be in her picture |
| 17:13 | So somewhere out there someone has my kids in their photo album | |
| 17:13 | "Check out these American kids I found!" | |
| 17:13 | wizzyrea | also funny, in the Sydney airport trea was playing his uke to pass the time |
| 17:13 | japanese tourists kept coming by and taking his picture | |
| 17:14 | so somewhere out there, some japanese person thinks they saw some kind of ukulele star in the sydney airport | |
| 17:14 | oleonard: that's a great story. | |
| 17:14 | oleonard | Proof that the ukulele is a traditional Australian instrument. |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea | i... i guess. |
| 17:14 | jcamins | What? |
| 17:17 | while (my $row = $sth->fetchrow_hashref) { push @imagenumbers, $row{'imagenumber'}; | |
| 17:17 | } | |
| 17:17 | ^^ Will that work? | |
| 17:17 | kf | paul_p++ :) |
| 17:18 | paul_p | kf thx ! (and hope to have you again !) |
| 17:18 | jcamins | $row->{'imagenumber'}? |
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| 17:19 | jcamins | $row->{'ukelele'}? |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | ukUlele |
| 17:20 | ooo koo lay lee | |
| 17:20 | jcamins | wizzyrea: if I change it to 'u', will it retrieve data from the database? |
| 17:20 | :P | |
| 17:20 | oleonard | You kew lay lee? |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | oh right you're from ohio. |
| 17:21 | oleonard | Yewkle lay le? |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 17:21 | kf | paul_p: hope I can come - it was great last year |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | jcamins: you might look in items.pm |
| 17:22 | * jcamins | heads into the city. |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | lots of pulling lists of stuff from mysql in there |
| 17:22 | if you can put aside the fact that it's frightening in there, it can be instructive. | |
| 17:22 | jcamins | wizzyrea: very frightening! |
| 17:22 | However, good call. | |
| 17:23 | I found an example of what I want just now, and I did it right. :) | |
| 17:23 | I'll be back in a few hours. | |
| 17:23 | wizzyrea | later |
| 17:29 | hey oleonard | |
| 17:29 | wahanui | oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | did you realize that we were working on bug 7337 |
| 17:29 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7337 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , "Debarred Until" display in the opac tells patrons they are debarred until the year 9999 |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | does that mean we're leet now? |
| 17:30 | oleonard | We don't need a bug to tell us that |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 17:31 | o/*\o | |
| 17:31 | oleonard | Ooo, scary praying mantis |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 17:32 | the * is the sound high fiving makes | |
| 17:32 | oleonard | :) |
| 17:32 | wizzyrea | :D |
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| 17:41 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7337] "Debarred Until" display in the opac tells patrons they are debarred until the year 9999 <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7337> |
| 17:44 | wizzyrea | oleonard: attachment 6671 is incorporated in your revision? or accidentally obsoleted? |
| 17:44 | huginn` | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=6671&action=edit patch, Bug 7337 - Followup - Correcting instances of "debar" that crept back in., Bug-7337---Followup---Correcting-instances-of-deba.patch |
| 17:44 | oleonard | The new patch replaces the old one. |
| 17:44 | chris_n | ooo.. huginn does attachments |
| 17:45 | oleonard | attachment 3! |
| 17:45 | huginn` | 03Attachment 3 was not found or is not accessible. |
| 17:45 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn`. |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea | right, 6671 was my patch to fix the buttons on the staff side debar -> restrict |
| 17:45 | not my signoff >.> | |
| 17:45 | kf | bye all :) |
| 17:45 | kf left #koha | |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | byekf |
| 17:46 | oleonard | sorry, looking again |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | oh it's ok |
| 17:46 | i'll just fix it if you want, but I didn't know if that was intentional | |
| 17:47 | oleonard | No not intentional |
| 17:47 | * oleonard | didn't see that you had already obsoleted the original patch |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | k i'll fix it - and the revision looks good, renewal buttons are gone |
| 17:47 | oleonard++ | |
| 17:48 | * oleonard | really wants to go to Hackfest in Europe 2012 |
| 17:48 | oleonard | I should go and just stay until KohaCon ;) |
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| 17:50 | * wizzyrea | remembers to run prove xt this time |
| 17:51 | botanica | Hi, I have a new install of Koha, imported MARC from Follett. How can I batch process all records to have a single holding? They imported but nothing has a holding. |
| 17:52 | oleonard | botanica: If holdings didn't import, doesn't that mean you should start over and try again? |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | botanica: koha keeps it's items in the 952 fields |
| 17:52 | its | |
| 17:52 | botanica | So, populate 952 with a value before import? |
| 17:53 | wizzyrea | precisely, and tell the import to bring in items as well as bibs |
| 17:53 | rangi | well those new fails on jenkins just prove that once again people are not running unit tests |
| 17:54 | botanica | Gotcha, thanks! |
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| 18:00 | oleonard | 9 out of 10 of the most-checked-out items in our collections over the last 12 months were DVDs |
| 18:00 | The 1 book was Smokin' seventeen by Janet Evanovich | |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | this is probably reflective of our collection as well |
| 18:00 | reiveune1 | bye |
| 18:01 | wizzyrea | bye |
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| 18:01 | oleonard | You were ready |
| 18:01 | wizzyrea | i lie in constant wait for "bye" |
| 18:01 | no, just kidding | |
| 18:02 | hrm, I can't seem to convince prove to run the tests in xt/author | |
| 18:03 | oh, nm it worked in the directory | |
| 18:16 | with a fresh pull I am not actually seeing the failures jenkins is reporting | |
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| 18:25 | rangi | running the perlcritic tests? |
| 18:25 | wizzyrea | oo, probably not. One sec. |
| 18:26 | rangi | perl t/00-testcritic.t |
| 18:26 | I just signed off on pauls fix | |
| 18:26 | the 00 ones are good to run | |
| 18:27 | my git hooks stop me committing if they fail | |
| 18:27 | maximep | except 00-load that seems to destroy my web server -_- |
| 18:27 | rangi | they check for conflict markers etc as well |
| 18:27 | weird, works for me | |
| 18:27 | maximep | takes many gigs of ram for me |
| 18:28 | rangi | u dont have circular symlinks or something? |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | hehe that would make it go omg omg omg |
| 18:28 | ad infinitum. | |
| 18:29 | maximep | it finishes and runs, just takes more than 2 gigs of ram |
| 18:29 | i dont think we have symlinks | |
| 18:29 | except the main folder | |
| 18:30 | rangi | hmm ill have to test it, I might not have noticed |
| 18:33 | * libsysguy | is about to be brave and try the authorities import script |
| 18:33 | rangi | on staging first right? |
| 18:34 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 18:35 | sekjal | speaking of unit tests, anyone run the SIP test suite lately? |
| 18:36 | libsysguy | staging? |
| 18:36 | you mean like a test machine | |
| 18:36 | yes | |
| 18:36 | * wizzyrea | was about to |
| 18:36 | libsysguy | *also hourly branch is now merged* |
| 18:37 | cries a little everytime | |
| 18:37 | bag | any package guru's around? |
| 18:38 | I've got this in my cron.daily --> koha-foreach --enabled /[MY PATH]/longoverdue.pl --lost 30=1 --charge 1 --confirm | |
| 18:38 | and I had edited and changed the --lost 30=1 (and so on) | |
| 18:38 | but I'm not seeing it work | |
| 18:39 | if I edit that in cron.daily -- do I need to re-enable it or something | |
| 18:39 | if not - then I've got a few other things that I could/need to check | |
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| 18:41 | cait | hi again #koha |
| 18:41 | rangi | heya cait |
| 18:41 | magnuse | guten abend cait |
| 18:41 | cait | morning rangi |
| 18:41 | guten abend magnuse | |
| 18:41 | bag | libsysguy: hourly branch is merged? (where?) |
| 18:42 | chris_n | wb cait |
| 18:42 | bag | heya cait |
| 18:42 | cait | I tihnk there is a branch on his bug |
| 18:42 | or on this bug | |
| 18:43 | sekjal | bag: I think libsysguy means he just merged current master into his hourly branch on his repo |
| 18:43 | bag | ahhh… |
| 18:43 | libsysguy | yeah ' |
| 18:43 | bag | I was going to jump up and down - otherwise |
| 18:43 | libsysguy | sorry |
| 18:43 | with glee bag? | |
| 18:43 | bag | yup |
| 18:44 | libsysguy | yeah i know you guys have a lot of people waiting on it |
| 18:46 | sekjal | once we get a public test server, we can get more eyes on it, and hopefully find some of the critical/blocker fringe cases you haven't run into libsysguy |
| 18:46 | wizzyrea | bag - it's not running? |
| 18:46 | bag | well I've got a few examples of where the data was not changed - so I'd say no it didn't run |
| 18:47 | chris_n | bag: we're going to begin running libsysguy's branch live in Jan |
| 18:47 | fwiw | |
| 18:47 | hopefully that will help scare out bugs | |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | ^^ and will be supergood testing |
| 18:47 | bag | awesome! we should really get that merged in… so you could just pull master in Jan :) |
| 18:47 | chris_n | hehe |
| 18:47 | libsysguy | ^^^^^^ |
| 18:49 | if it gets merged by Jan I'll be the one buying the first round | |
| 18:50 | rangi | heh it wont without a crap tonne of testing but chris_n will help with that |
| 18:51 | its all the weird fringe cases | |
| 18:51 | bag | stop running master in production and master should become testing ;) |
| 18:51 | * rangi | never runs it in production |
| 18:52 | bag | wasn't pointing at you dood :) |
| 18:52 | heh | |
| 18:52 | rangi | but that would work only for part of the cycle |
| 18:52 | cos closing in on release it has to be stable | |
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| 18:53 | rangi | but ppl could run testing branches that track master + something |
| 18:53 | like libsysguy | |
| 18:53 | that helps a lot | |
| 18:53 | * libsysguy | has to |
| 18:53 | sekjal | running master is a lot of work |
| 18:53 | rangi | yup |
| 18:53 | libsysguy | otherwise we wouldn't be able to run koha without all the "fringe" features |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | expectation management. |
| 18:54 | rangi | ok my stop |
| 18:54 | bbiab | |
| 18:55 | wizzyrea | safe travels :P |
| 18:55 | ohh, jing has a "copy" feature now | |
| 18:55 | for doing things like pasting into email | |
| 18:56 | very handy. | |
| 18:57 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 18 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
| 18:59 | ibeardslee | NZ does have some 'fun' with trademarks .. http://www.stuff.co.nz/busines[…]uperman-trademark |
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| 19:00 | wizzyrea | lol srsly |
| 19:03 | rangi | :) |
| 19:03 | back with coffee and a muffin | |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | mmm muffins. |
| 19:03 | bag | mmm… coffee |
| 19:03 | heh wizzyrea - coffee sounds better right now :) | |
| 19:03 | * chris_n | hands rangi a bic pen |
| 19:03 | rangi | heh |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | shush, you should not defile nz coffees with pens |
| 19:04 | rangi | ibeardslee: when tppa goes through, that will never happen again |
| 19:05 | ibeardslee | you mean a US corporate will never be stupid? or that we'll never be able to stand up for ourselves? |
| 19:06 | .. (apologies to any sane US corporates existing in this channel) | |
| 19:07 | rangi | the latter |
| 19:07 | wahanui | the latter is what I was thinking you liked to. The former I hadn't been looking at. |
| 19:07 | rangi | we'll never be able to have nz law apply to anything to do with IP |
| 19:07 | ibeardslee | there is just so much that is wrong with the TPPA |
| 19:07 | rangi | there is |
| 19:08 | ibeardslee | I can't understand how we even think there is benefit for us .. that's 'us' as in us here in NZ as compare to 'us' as in 'USA' |
| 19:08 | rangi | theres benefit for some people, but they are most definitely the 1% |
| 19:09 | magnuse | wahanui: forget the latter |
| 19:09 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot latter |
| 19:16 | rangi | chris_n: will make patches for those 3 commits now .. one patch ok? |
| 19:20 | libsysguy | seen druthb |
| 19:20 | wahanui | druthb was last seen on #koha 3 days, 1 hours, 27 minutes and 21 seconds ago, saying: :D [Mon Dec 5 17:52:49 2011] |
| 19:20 | libsysguy | @random quote |
| 19:20 | huginn` | libsysguy: Error: The command "random" is available in the Factoids and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random". |
| 19:20 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn`. |
| 19:20 | sekjal | brb, #Koha |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 19:21 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 12:11 PM, July 27, 2009) |
| 19:22 | libsysguy | cursed dislyxia |
| 19:30 | adminacct joined #koha | |
| 19:32 | rangi | 164! |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea | to be signed off? |
| 19:32 | rangi | nope ppl with patches in |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea | oooo ! |
| 19:33 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]70ea4aab65eb9b8aa |
| 19:34 | from mountain view, CA | |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | noice! |
| 19:34 | cait | 164? |
| 19:34 | rangi | yup |
| 19:34 | cait | that was fast |
| 19:34 | what happened after jon? | |
| 19:35 | rangi | jon was 164 |
| 19:35 | cait | aah |
| 19:35 | very nice | |
| 19:36 | rangi | martine renvoize was 161, adrien saurat 162 and albert oller is 163 |
| 19:36 | have to fix some frenglish in the docs/history.txt though :) | |
| 19:36 | Martin Renvoize becomes the 161th developer to have a patch pushed :) | |
| 19:37 | Albert Oller becomes the 163th developer to have a patch pushed | |
| 19:37 | english is so annoying | |
| 19:37 | * wizzyrea | nods |
| 19:38 | chris_n | rangi: that will be fine |
| 19:38 | rangi | ahh, sorry i put them on as 3 sep hehe |
| 19:38 | but they are up there now ;) | |
| 19:38 | chris_n | no matter :) |
| 19:38 | * wizzyrea | pokes qa on 7159. |
| 19:39 | pokes QA on bug 7157 too. | |
| 19:39 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7157 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , Improve the j2a.pl cronjob |
| 19:39 | cait | heh |
| 19:39 | be careful | |
| 19:39 | rangi | 91 authors in 2011!!! |
| 19:39 | cait | poking them too much might make them explode |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | squee!!! |
| 19:40 | cait | squeee! |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | crikey that's a lot |
| 19:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #18: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/18/ |
| 19:40 | Chris Cormack: Bug 5604 : Follow up for missing image | |
| 19:40 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5604 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , additional icons for the Seshat set |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | i guess the record.t patch hasn't made it in yet |
| 19:41 | rangi | it has into master, not 3.6.x yet |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | oh that explains it. |
| 19:41 | der | |
| 19:41 | rangi | thats bug 7141 chris_n btw :) |
| 19:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7141 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " |
| 19:41 | oleonard | So almost 2/3 of all the developers Koha has ever had were contributors in 2011 |
| 19:41 | rangi | pretty neat eh |
| 19:41 | 67 in 2010 | |
| 19:41 | chris_n | ? |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | oh, when are we having the xmas party :P |
| 19:42 | rangi | 63 in 2009 |
| 19:42 | dude you were sposta speak to that at the meeting | |
| 19:42 | but you were off eating | |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | MY OWN ARM OFF |
| 19:42 | rangi | i puts it on the agenda for you |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | :P |
| 19:42 | rangi | but no |
| 19:42 | your stomach won | |
| 19:42 | * wizzyrea | sobs |
| 19:42 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:42 | cait | lol |
| 19:42 | rangi | send a mail to the devel list maybe? |
| 19:42 | cait | it's not too late |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | i'm just not as good at typing one-armed. |
| 19:43 | much more useful with 2 | |
| 19:43 | yes, I will email the devel list. sheesh. | |
| 19:44 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:44 | lemme check the calendar | |
| 19:44 | how about 22nd december us time? thats 23rd nz | |
| 19:45 | (friday before xmas) | |
| 19:45 | chris_n | 7141 is in: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]&st=commit&s=7141 |
| 19:45 | rangi | hmmm |
| 19:45 | cait | hm works for me |
| 19:45 | rangi | chris_n: there is a follow up |
| 19:45 | cait | will be here until 23rd |
| 19:45 | * chris_n | feels like a one-armed paper-hanger |
| 19:46 | rangi | that fixes the failing test that happened after that commit ;) |
| 19:46 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7141 | |
| 19:46 | huginn` | 04Bug 7141: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " |
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| 19:46 | chris_n | done |
| 19:46 | rangi | sweet |
| 19:47 | chris_n | anything else I've missed while I'm in a pushy mood :-) |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | sweeet |
| 19:47 | rangi | i think we should get a clean build for jenkins now! |
| 19:47 | * chris_n | pokes jenkins_koha |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | make him do it now? |
| 19:47 | doo eeet | |
| 19:47 | rangi | !jenkins build koha_3.6.x now |
| 19:47 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_3.6.x build scheduled now |
| 19:48 | Starting build 19 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) | |
| 19:48 | chris_n | go! go! go! |
| 19:49 | cait | heh |
| 19:49 | * cait | puts a bowl of cookies into #koha |
| 19:50 | chris_n | careful... you may cause a stampede |
| 19:50 | * wizzyrea | gets the popcorn whilst waiting for jenkins |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | oo, popcorn. |
| 19:51 | cait | yum popcorn |
| 19:53 | chris_n | !huginn botsnack popcorn |
| 19:53 | opps | |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | botsnack popcorn |
| 19:54 | chris_n | !huginn` botsnack popcorn |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | gah I can never remember how that works. |
| 19:54 | cait | !jenkins botsnack popcorn |
| 19:54 | jenkins_koha | cait: you're so kind to me! how did you know that popcorn is my favorite food? |
| 19:54 | rangi | !botsnack popcorn |
| 19:54 | huginn`: eat some damn popcorn you fool | |
| 19:54 | huginn` | rangi: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 19:54 | cait | wahanui botsnack popcorn |
| 19:54 | wahanui | :) |
| 19:54 | cait | huginn botsnack popcorn |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | huginn` botsnack popcorn |
| 19:54 | huginn` | wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 19:54 | chris_n | moody bots |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | he's not hungry. |
| 19:55 | cait | yeah |
| 19:55 | * oleonard | will have to try "!toddler kidsnack broccoli" |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:55 | oleonard | Maybe you just have to get the command right |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | I have a hack for getting kiddos to hold your hand in unsafe areas |
| 19:56 | rangi | glue? |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | ask them to keep you safe. Works on spud every time |
| 19:56 | rangi | oh |
| 19:56 | yeah thats more practical | |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 19:56 | cait | lol |
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| 19:59 | oleonard | Hi Rural |
| 19:59 | Rural | Backatcha. |
| 20:00 | Hi. I'm installing Koha on a Debian Squeeze system. Everything is going swimmingly as I follow the instructions at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze. That is until I have to edit koha-sites.conf. That file doesn't exist. | |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | I think it does say that you may have to create that file. |
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| 20:01 | Rural | Well look at that! |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | After install, edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf with details about your site. You may need to create this file. Some example content would be: <example> |
| 20:01 | :) | |
| 20:03 | Rural | Thanks. I'll continue with the instructions...and carefully read them. |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | hehe np, pop back anytime if you have questions |
| 20:03 | rangi | yeah definitely use the koha-common package (not koha one) |
| 20:03 | Rural | rangi: That I did right. |
| 20:04 | rangi | sweet :) |
| 20:04 | Rural | Anybody around here have any experience with Horizon? Care to compare it with Koha? (I just asked this on the Evergreen IRC channel and got some interesting responses.) |
| 20:04 | rangi | Rural: about 400 libraries have moved from horizon to koha |
| 20:05 | afaik none ever moved the other way | |
| 20:05 | Rural | And I'm not pro-Horizon. |
| 20:06 | So don't worry about my feelings or anything like that. | |
| 20:06 | rangi | the only thing i will say is |
| 20:06 | horizon is proprietary software | |
| 20:06 | i find proprietary software unethical | |
| 20:06 | so even if it made me coffee and polished my shoes everyday | |
| 20:06 | it would still suck | |
| 20:07 | :-) | |
| 20:07 | others might want to comment on feature comparisons etc | |
| 20:07 | but thats pretty much bottomline for me | |
| 20:07 | Rural | I've been primarily using FOSS since 1993, so that isn't lost on me. |
| 20:08 | rangi | horizon is also EOL right? |
| 20:08 | wahanui | okay, rangi. |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | forget horizon |
| 20:08 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot horizon |
| 20:08 | rangi | its symphony or nothing anymore isnt it? |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | horizon is proprietary software. |
| 20:09 | rangi | horizon? |
| 20:09 | wahanui | hmmm... horizon is proprietary software. |
| 20:09 | rangi | :) |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | @quote add rangi: I find proprietary software unethical. So even if it made me coffee and polished my shoes everyday, it would still suck |
| 20:09 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 20:09 | * wizzyrea | scowls at huginn |
| 20:10 | rangi | Rural: have you seen libwebcats? |
| 20:10 | anthonyl | Hi guys, can you please help me with syspref : "ShowReviewerPhoto". How does it work exaclty ? I dont understand how the avatar is linked to the user. |
| 20:10 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Can you set your irc client to auto-register you? That's what I do. |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | @quote add rangi: I find proprietary software unethical. So even if it made me coffee and polished my shoes everyday, it would still suck |
| 20:10 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #171 added. |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | I probably could do that |
| 20:10 | rangi | Rural: http://www.librarytechnology.org/libwebcats/ |
| 20:10 | oleonard | anthonyl: The user has to have set up a libravatar https://www.libravatar.org/ |
| 20:11 | rangi | you should be able to find a library who has made the switch near you, they would probably be better to ask? |
| 20:11 | oleonard: anthonyl: it will fall back to gravatar too | |
| 20:11 | and failing that, a default image | |
| 20:11 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]93/in/photostream <-- looks like that | |
| 20:13 | anthonyl | oleonard : I did create the avatar on the website but how does Koha know that user ABC123 is linked to avatar on libravatar ? |
| 20:13 | oleonard | Through their email address isn't it rangi? |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | I was wondering that too, anthonyl |
| 20:14 | rangi | thats right oleonard |
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| 20:14 | anthonyl | Got it, let me try :-) |
| 20:14 | rangi | its all based off email |
| 20:14 | so anyone @catalyst.net.nz would get the catalyst logo if they didnt set their own avatar | |
| 20:14 | the awesome thing with libravatar apart from it being libre | |
| 20:15 | is that it is distributed | |
| 20:15 | its frankly, cool as hell | |
| 20:15 | and im not just saying that cos francois sits downstairs :) | |
| 20:15 | * oleonard | didn't realize that about fallback logos |
| 20:15 | * wizzyrea | either |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | that's wicked cool. |
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| 20:16 | oleonard | So how did the default catalyst logo get set? |
| 20:16 | Rural | rangi: Checking out webcats now. |
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| 20:18 | rangi | oleonard: id have to check with francois, its something to do with looking for a libravatar service at the domain |
| 20:18 | so if you had a myacpl libravatar server, it would try that | |
| 20:19 | its how the federating works | |
| 20:19 | Rural | Wow! That graphic on the mergers of different library system providers is interesting. Whenever one of our proprietary software providers is bought out, I lose sleep. |
| 20:20 | rangi | thats why horizon got killed |
| 20:20 | when your company is run by an 'equity' firm | |
| 20:20 | its time to get the hell out :) | |
| 20:20 | oleonard | Bad things can happen when your vendor gets bought out, but if you're on free software you can just move! |
| 20:20 | rangi | pump and dump |
| 20:21 | Rural | Been there. Not fun. |
| 20:22 | Ok. So I've successfully installed Koha and set up an instance (testlibrary). Nice. | |
| 20:22 | rangi | oleonard: For example, if you own a business, you may want to integrate with existing systems (e.g. a staff directory) and delegate authentication to what you're already using (LDAP?). Plus, you can choose what happens when email addresses are not found (display your company logo?). |
| 20:22 | http://wiki.libravatar.org/description/ | |
| 20:23 | rhcl_away | whereis ILS Merger Graphic? |
| 20:23 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]omationhistory.pl |
| 20:23 | rhcl_away | TNX |
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| 20:25 | rhcl_away | I'd love to see a Sirsi market share graphic for the past 15 years |
| 20:26 | rangi | yeah, trending downwards hard |
| 20:26 | would be my guess | |
| 20:26 | looking at | |
| 20:26 | rhcl_away | Wonder if Marshal has enough data to approximate one? |
| 20:26 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]erse.pl?Year=2011 |
| 20:26 | unicorn -189 | |
| 20:27 | horizon -154 | |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | #3. Heh. |
| 20:27 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]over.pl?Year=2011 |
| 20:28 | symphony + 125 | |
| 20:28 | so approx -200 for the year | |
| 20:30 | Rural | So now that everything is running, and I've got the I've got the System Maintenance page... And I'm getting emails with errors about missing tables in the DB. |
| 20:31 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 20:31 | Project Koha_3.6.x build #19: FIXED in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/19/ | |
| 20:31 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679: catalogue/ now passing perl critic tests | |
| 20:31 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : cataloguing/ now passing critic tests | |
| 20:31 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6679 : Adding license statement and stopping declaring variables in a conditional | |
| 20:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests |
| 20:31 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 7141 : Changing test to match new formatting of xsl style sheet |
| 20:31 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7141 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , The biblio details page in the intranet doesn't work if XSLT is activated and the xsl file contains " " |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | yippee!!! |
| 20:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 20 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: FIXED) |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | !jenkins botsnack russian tea cakes |
| 20:31 | jenkins_koha | wizzyrea: yummy! I really like that russian tea cakes |
| 20:32 | chris_n | yay! |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | rural - you'll have to be more specific about your errors |
| 20:33 | oh, and you'll probably want to run the web installer | |
| 20:33 | if you haven't already | |
| 20:33 | you'll need to go to the staff client url you set up for yourself. | |
| 20:33 | Rural | wizzyrea: Web installer... <searching sounds> |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | unfortunately I can't tell you what the url is because you set that up :P |
| 20:34 | but it's whatever url you set up for the intranet. | |
| 20:37 | Rural | All I did was 'koha-create --create-db testlibrary', 'koha-enable testlibrary', and set DNS so that testlibrary.blah pointed to the koha server. A database exists in MySQL, but it is empty. |
| 20:37 | anthonyl | Thanks for your help on the avatar, I'll need to ask on our provider. I think everything is setup properly but can't find what's wrong. |
| 20:38 | Rural | Ah. I see. Have to populate the DB. |
| 20:40 | That didn't work. (koha-create --populate-db testlibrary) | |
| 20:41 | anthonyl | BTW, I present myself :Anthony Laquerre and I am the project manager at www.ccsr.qc.ca. We did a big migration project last winter including 22 college library/70000 users and appprox. 1.2 million items. You'll start earing more of us in the comming months. We just started a "Koha-CCSR community" with everyone. Keep looking working with all of you. |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | rural |
| 20:42 | you need to run the web installer | |
| 20:42 | in your browser. | |
| 20:42 | oleonard | Welcome anthonyl |
| 20:42 | cait | hi anthonyl |
| 20:42 | anthonyl | Oups forgot to mention that our provider of services is Libéo ( Maxime Pelletier and Frédérick Capovilla ) |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | hi :) |
| 20:42 | Rural | I hear you. I'm looking for it. |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | aha! |
| 20:43 | we know them :) | |
| 20:43 | cait | yep :) |
| 20:47 | maximep | I sure know me =) |
| 20:47 | btw, missed Libravatar::URL on the server =) | |
| 20:47 | cait | hi maximep :) |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | oic, i wonder if that's my issue too |
| 20:48 | was just about ot ask about that ;) | |
| 20:48 | doods I think it's bustid ;) | |
| 20:48 | but it's prolly not | |
| 20:49 | is that not among the required ones? | |
| 20:49 | * wizzyrea | didn't have it either. |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | now it's working. |
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| 20:56 | rangi | Rural: look in your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 20:57 | maximep | hmmm it loads the default libravatar img for me instead of fallback to gravatar |
| 20:58 | rangi | depending on what you put in your koha-sites.conf |
| 20:58 | your staff site would be something-testlibrary or testlibrary-something | |
| 20:59 | Rural | rangi: Like the -intra site? |
| 20:59 | rangi | yes |
| 20:59 | testlibrary-intra if -intra is what you put in the suffix | |
| 21:00 | Rural | Gotcha. And woo-hoo! |
| 21:02 | cait | :) |
| 21:03 | rangi | yay! |
| 21:03 | http://jenkins.koha-community.org/monitor/? | |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | yay! |
| 21:03 | cait | yay! |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | looks like 3.4 has some kind of translation thing going on |
| 21:04 | Rural | That got 'em! Ok. Things are making a lot more sense now. |
| 21:05 | rangi | yeah those are all fixed in master now wizzyrea |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | ok cool. |
| 21:06 | rangi | also |
| 21:06 | http://soundcloud.com/virginma[…]love-will-tear-us | |
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| 21:12 | Rural | I'm setting up libraries now. Is the IP range so it can automatically select the appropriate library based on the source address of the traffic? |
| 21:12 | oleonard | Oh, wizzyrea, Bug 7341 is a good catch |
| 21:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7341 trivial, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Clicking cancel on system preferences search results causes error |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | you can thank rangi, I was looking for the libravatar stuff. heh. |
| 21:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #20: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/20/ |
| 21:13 | smita | hi i have Daven from Singatoka Library, Fiji, who will be soon setting up a new Koha install |
| 21:13 | jenkins_koha | chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.02.000 08 Dec 2011 19:48:55 Z |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | hi smita |
| 21:13 | wahanui | i think hi smita is a newbe to Koha. have just installed 3.4. have totally confused Smita's self with setting up cir rules as a result cannot place hold, can anyone help me please |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | forget hi smita |
| 21:14 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot hi smita |
| 21:14 | smita | bula from fiji |
| 21:15 | oleonard | See you later everyone |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | bye owen |
| 21:17 | ok i'm lookin, and I don't see anywhere in the package where we require the installation of the libravatar stuff | |
| 21:17 | libravatar::url, precisely | |
| 21:17 | oh oh nm | |
| 21:17 | I see it now >.< sorry | |
| 21:17 | rangi | :) |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | I looked for libravatar, not gravatar. |
| 21:19 | but it looks like you only get it if you're using the packages? | |
| 21:24 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5327] Unit tests required for all C4 modules <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327> |
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| 21:38 | maximep | man, I didn't get that it was our client that was talking in irc |
| 21:38 | until he said he was | |
| 21:38 | that was weird | |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:38 | maximep | but cool |
| 21:38 | rangi | :) |
| 21:38 | maximep | he opened a bug with a copy paste from what rangi said here haha |
| 21:38 | rangi | lol, awesome |
| 21:39 | i hope i said | |
| 21:39 | "pay rangi 10 million dollars" | |
| 21:39 | * wizzyrea | passes on fixing that bug |
| 21:39 | rangi | heh |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | i'd start a fund tho :P |
| 21:39 | maximep | "won't fix" |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | more like "can't fix" |
| 21:39 | "unfixable" | |
| 21:39 | "flaw inherent in the system" | |
| 21:40 | i'm sad now. | |
| 21:40 | cait | want cookies? |
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| 21:41 | * druthb | has cookies! |
| 21:41 | rangi | heya druthb :) |
| 21:41 | cait | cookies! |
| 21:41 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 21:41 | cait | hi druthb :) |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | ooh, it's a mythical druthb sighting |
| 21:42 | druthb | @quote get 102 |
| 21:42 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) |
| 21:42 | * druthb | goes :P at wizzyrea. |
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| 21:52 | cait | can I get some comments/opinions for bug 5347? |
| 21:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5347 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , late order management |
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| 21:54 | rangi | done cait |
| 21:54 | but another one would be welcome too | |
| 21:54 | cait | thank you rangi :) |
| 21:54 | yep | |
| 21:55 | the more opinions the better | |
| 21:55 | * cait | looks at wizzyrea... |
| 21:55 | waves with a cookie | |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | oh my |
| 21:55 | i am not the one to ask about acquisitions | |
| 21:55 | cait | that's not about acq |
| 21:55 | not really | |
| 21:55 | about notices | |
| 21:55 | and patterns | |
| 21:55 | consistency! | |
| 21:55 | heh | |
| 21:55 | ... ok not trying to influence you | |
| 21:55 | rangi | its notices |
| 21:56 | * cait | hands you the cookie |
| 21:56 | rangi | not acquisitions at all |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | wow what an inconvenient time for the battery in my keyboard to die |
| 21:57 | cait | lol |
| 21:57 | you don't have to come up with excuses like that... | |
| 21:57 | we understand | |
| 21:57 | wizzyrea | what I was going to say, before I had to go off and forage for batteries |
| 21:58 | cait | ;) |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | was "alright already, I'll look and see if I can muster up an opinion" |
| 21:58 | oh, yes, I have an opinion. | |
| 21:58 | rangi | heheh |
| 21:59 | cait | heh |
| 21:59 | * wizzyrea | saw "order" and went "I don't think I know enough to have an opinion" |
| 21:59 | rangi | yeah :) |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | there. |
| 22:02 | cait | thx |
| 22:02 | :) | |
| 22:12 | night all :) | |
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| 22:21 | eythian | http://youtu.be/o6KlpIWhbcw <-- triangles |
| 22:35 | jcamins | rangi: if I'm doing DB access in the Koha namespace, do I need to encapsulate it in something like Koha::DB? |
| 22:36 | rangi | Koha::Context probably, which at this stage, would just be an ISA for C4::Context |
| 22:36 | jcamins | rangi: and then use the dbh directly? |
| 22:36 | rangi | yup |
| 22:37 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 22:41 | Rural | Is there an easy way of changing the kohaadmin password? |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | rural: you should probably create yourself a new patron |
| 22:41 | give that patron superlibrarian | |
| 22:41 | and stop using your kohaadmin | |
| 22:41 | jcamins | Rural: don't use kohaadmin. |
| 22:41 | Rural | Fair enough. |
| 22:41 | wizzyrea | 1. kohaadmin doesn't have an assigned branch |
| 22:42 | 2. it's the db user - keeping that pw around is invitation for someone to do Bad Stuff (tm) | |
| 22:42 | 3. it's the db user... it bears reiterating ;) | |
| 22:43 | * jcamins | once again stares in mute horror at the handle_dir and handle_file routines. |
| 22:43 | jcamins | What does one say about them, other than "gosh." |
| 22:44 | 'Cause, seriously. Gosh. | |
| 22:46 | * chris_n | snaps his fingers at jcamins to get him to snap out of it |
| 22:46 | jcamins | chris_n: you look at it and avoid falling into a reverie! |
| 22:46 | chris_n | they are right nasty, I agree |
| 22:47 | its amazing what 4 years of staring at perl will do for one's self | |
| 22:47 | jcamins | Very true. |
| 22:47 | wahanui | I know. That's why I said it. |
| 22:49 | jcamins | The script is still over 200 lines, and I took all the database functionality *out*. |
| 22:49 | chris_n | my brain hurts trying to re-figure it out |
| 22:49 | * jcamins | gasps. |
| 22:50 | jcamins | I just figured out why it has to be a file. |
| 22:50 | system("unzip", $tempfile). | |
| 22:50 | chris_n | right |
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| 22:51 | * jcamins | forces himself to stop looking at this. |
| 22:51 | jcamins | I will worry about prettying it after it works. |
| 22:51 | * chris_n | shouts "Don't do it! Don't look!" |
| 22:51 | chris_n | seriously, if I can help, just let me know |
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| 22:52 | * jcamins | will get it working, then send it to you to generalize. :P |
| 22:52 | * chris_n | goes off to pour a candle |
| 22:53 | smita | hi . I am trying to run simple reports through the reports module. when i ask it to count the number of checkouts it gives 0, though we have checked out quite a few items |
| 22:54 | same with running a report to count the number of items catalogues | |
| 22:56 | wizzyrea | doh |
| 22:56 | chris_n | btw, if you like hand made beeswax candles check this out: http://myworld.ebay.com/ku4dd |
| 22:56 | my daughter makes them | |
| 22:57 | wizzyrea | ! neat! |
| 22:57 | my brother in law makes candles too | |
| 22:57 | chris_n | yeah, it comes with beekeeping around here :) |
| 22:57 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 22:58 | i imagine you have an opinion about colony collapse then | |
| 22:58 | chris_n | not a problem with my hives |
| 22:58 | * chris_n | keeps his hives fat and happey :) |
| 22:58 | chris_n | happy even |
| 22:58 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 22:58 | chris_n | we're working on a new wooden-wick version tonight |
| 23:00 | jcamins | Should I change the table name to "bibliofiles" so that someone could conceivably put something other than images in it at some point in the future? |
| 23:00 | Okay, let me rephrase that. | |
| 23:01 | How important is it that I find a way to do that? | |
| 23:01 | chris_n | well |
| 23:01 | wizzyrea | oh boy lookit the time |
| 23:01 | * wizzyrea | skedaddles |
| 23:01 | chris_n | you could do nothing to the name and just push other images there |
| 23:01 | or you could rename it to something more generic like 'images' or some such | |
| 23:02 | which would require only a bit of work I think | |
| 23:02 | jcamins | But what I'm hearing is that you don't feel like the table needs to support non-image files? |
| 23:02 | Excellent! | |
| 23:02 | chris_n | yeah |
| 23:03 | if we want that, we probably need a different table for each file type | |
| 23:03 | jcamins | Woohoo! That's what I want to hear! |
| 23:03 | :D | |
| 23:03 | * chris_n | likes it when the answer makes people happy :) |
| 23:03 | jcamins | Hm. I guess "CoverImages" isn't such a good name for this module. |
| 23:03 | Do we have C4::Image? | |
| 23:04 | No. Excellent. | |
| 23:04 | chris_n | feel free to consolodate the code into a pm |
| 23:04 | if there is much cut-n-paste, it probably should be | |
| 23:05 | jcamins | Oh, it's in a PM. |
| 23:05 | The part where it is abstracted to handle patronimages too is going to get saved for you, though. :P | |
| 23:06 | * jcamins | decides that RmImage sounds dumb. |
| 23:06 | chris_n | yeah, the problem there is with the zip file syntax |
| 23:06 | it needs help | |
| 23:06 | jcamins | And, you know, the fact that no one can understand that part of the code. |
| 23:06 | I'm actually leaving _handle_file and _handle_dir in the pl because I haven't the foggiest idea what they're doing. | |
| 23:06 | chris_n | I'm not sure where I got it or where it came from or <other-excuses-go-here> |
| 23:07 | jcamins | Other than, you know, Stuff. |
| 23:07 | chris_n | ahh |
| 23:07 | handle_dir walks through the results of the unzip iirc | |
| 23:07 | jcamins | The actual doing-stuff-with-images has been moved into Koha::Images. |
| 23:08 | chris_n | and handle_file processes the files contained therein |
| 23:08 | jcamins | Yes, but you make that sound so much simpler than it actually is. |
| 23:08 | chris_n | accidental obfuscation? |
| 23:08 | jcamins | I think so. |
| 23:09 | Or you had a vendetta. | |
| 23:09 | chris_n | I think that C4::Members might have a few applicable subs as well |
| 23:12 | jcamins | What's this do: |
| 23:12 | if ($data->param('bibnum')) { $biblionumber=$data->param('bibnum'); } else { $biblionumber = shift; } | |
| 23:12 | chris_n | what line? |
| 23:13 | jcamins | I'm not sure it's in your code. |
| 23:13 | rangi | take it from the hashref, if its in there |
| 23:13 | if not | |
| 23:13 | jcamins | Oh, it is there. |
| 23:13 | rangi | grab it from the arguments passed to the function |
| 23:13 | chris_n | right |
| 23:13 | what he said | |
| 23:13 | jcamins | Line 50 in members/patronimage.pl. |
| 23:13 | What function? | |
| 23:13 | wahanui | hmmm... function is in CalcFine |
| 23:14 | jcamins | I mean, there's no function. It's just a file. |
| 23:15 | chris_n | the cardnumber is passed in with the call to patronimage.pl |
| 23:15 | jcamins | That's the first part. But what's with the else? |
| 23:15 | chris_n | you may also call it form the command line |
| 23:15 | hmm | |
| 23:15 | jcamins | Ah. And in that case, you specify one argument and it is automatically understood as the card number? |
| 23:15 | Cool. | |
| 23:16 | * chris_n | cranks up putty |
| 23:18 | jcamins | Hm. I guess there has to be an option to specify an image as "preferred." |
| 23:18 | Actually, that can be a future development. | |
| 23:18 | I don't need it. | |
| 23:18 | kmkale won't need it. | |
| 23:21 | How do I find out the number of items in a list? | |
| 23:21 | I always have trouble with this. | |
| 23:21 | eythian | jcamins: the list in a scalar context |
| 23:21 | is its length | |
| 23:21 | so, @list somewhere were it makes sense to have a single value is the length of the list | |
| 23:22 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 23:22 | Would in a call to rand() be a place where it makes sense to have a single value? | |
| 23:23 | eythian | probably not (although maybe) |
| 23:23 | * eythian | tests |
| 23:24 | eythian | turns out yes |
| 23:24 | $ perl -e '@a=qw(a b c) ; print rand(@a)."\n" ;' | |
| 23:24 | 2.08902575167577 | |
| 23:24 | jcamins | Awesome, thanks! |
| 23:25 | eythian | actually, builtins are likely to work sensibly as they have defined prototypes that say "I take a single scalar" |
| 23:25 | * chris_n | is curious as to the purpose |
| 23:25 | jcamins | chris_n: selecting a cover image, of course. |
| 23:25 | chris_n | a random cover image? |
| 23:26 | jcamins | chris_n: right. |
| 23:26 | chris_n: adding a "preferred" flag is left as an exercise to the person who gives a darn. | |
| 23:28 | * jcamins | is not that person. |
| 23:30 | jcamins | Bet you never would've guessed that. |
| 23:30 | chris_n | :) |
| 23:35 | jcamins | How do I apply atomicupdates? |
| 23:36 | * chris_n | has no idea |
| 23:37 | * jcamins | runs it from the command line. |
| 23:39 | jcamins | Bang! Thirty errors! |
| 23:42 | How do we deal with debug flags in packages? | |
| 23:44 | chris_n | maybe 'export DEBUG=1' |
| 23:44 | from the cli | |
| 23:44 | otherwise I think you can add it as a cgi param | |
| 23:44 | or set it in your apache config iirc | |
| 23:44 | jcamins | chris_n: no, I'm writing a new package, and not sure how to handle it from that side. |
| 23:46 | chris_n | see C4::Debug |
| 23:47 | jcamins | Ah. Cool. |
| 23:47 | Thanks. | |
| 23:48 | But, uhh, where is it declared? | |
| 23:48 | $debug, I mean. | |
| 23:49 | Oh, this this use vars thing. | |
| 23:54 | Hm. | |
| 23:55 | Variables just sort of appear out of nowhere in this script. |
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