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| 00:06 | cait left #koha | |
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| 00:33 | rangi | http://www.twitvid.com/KYZUO |
| 00:33 | orcas in the harbour | |
| 00:35 | bag | cool |
| 00:37 | BobB | Amazing. Very cool. |
| 00:48 | bag | heya bag |
| 00:49 | whoops | |
| 00:49 | hey BobB | |
| 00:49 | lizzy | nice! (and hi) |
| 00:49 | rangi | hi lizzy |
| 00:49 | you need to fix that :-) | |
| 00:49 | wizzyrea | I so do! |
| 00:49 | * wizzyrea | stops being lazy and fixes it |
| 00:50 | BobB | Hi bag, rangi, wizzyrea |
| 00:50 | rangi | heya BobB |
| 00:50 | BobB | Where's the Koha Christmas party going to be? Here on the channel? |
| 00:50 | rangi | heh, most likely |
| 00:51 | BobB | Meeting Wed should fix a time! |
| 00:52 | wizzyrea joined #koha | |
| 00:52 | rangi | yay! |
| 00:52 | hmm someone should send out a reminder for that meeting and by someone i mean not me | |
| 00:58 | wizzyrea | di someone say party?1 |
| 01:00 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ember_2011#Agenda |
| 01:00 | there | |
| 01:00 | its on the agenda | |
| 01:05 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 01:05 | * wizzyrea | will bring the egg nog. |
| 01:25 | eythian | our koha christmas party is at the zoo on wednesday |
| 01:29 | jcamins | Why didn't I receive an invitation? |
| 01:30 | Oh, budget cuts at the USPS, I suppose. | |
| 01:39 | eythian | yeah, must be. I'm sure we sent one... |
| 01:40 | jcamins | :) |
| 01:49 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 01:56 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 10 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) |
| 01:58 | * jcamins | pre-emptively complains to rangi. |
| 01:59 | rangi | heh |
| 01:59 | not gonna work | |
| 01:59 | ill just make it pester you on irc too | |
| 01:59 | Brooke | you can preemptively complain to me |
| 01:59 | I've had almost a whole bottle of Frambois. I prolly won't even notice the complaints. | |
| 02:00 | * jcamins | preemptively complains to Brooke that rangi is being mean to him. |
| 02:00 | * Brooke | confides to jcamins that oh wait, can't speak ill of my Native Brother. |
| 02:00 | chris_n | rangi: check this out: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=refs/heads/3.6.x |
| 02:01 | rangi | your automatic release notes? |
| 02:01 | pretty sweet | |
| 02:02 | except i notice on the second one its missing a bunch | |
| 02:02 | ie the first generated one looks better? | |
| 02:02 | Brooke | oooh there are version colours! |
| 02:02 | * Brooke | is amused. |
| 02:02 | chris_n | rangi: actually the first is incorrect |
| 02:03 | jcamins | Koha 3.6.2 Frambois fudge. |
| 02:03 | chris_n | I typo'd the start tag as 3.6.0 rather than 3.6.1 |
| 02:03 | rangi | ahhh |
| 02:03 | chris_n | so it included all bugs since 3.6.0 |
| 02:03 | * chris_n | just pushed up the template |
| 02:03 | chris_n | for 3.6.x notes |
| 02:03 | rangi | the 2nd one doesnt have the 6629 and 6628 listed tho? |
| 02:04 | Brooke | jcamins you filthy tease. |
| 02:04 | chris_n | they made 3.6.1 |
| 02:04 | rangi | ahh yeah |
| 02:04 | i was thinking 3.4.7 | |
| 02:04 | duh | |
| 02:04 | chris_n | its about ready for jenkins |
| 02:04 | * chris_n | needs to add usage notes |
| 02:04 | rangi | sweet |
| 02:04 | jcamins | Brooke: I love frambois fudge. |
| 02:04 | I should make some. | |
| 02:05 | Brooke | yes. |
| 02:05 | And then have some chick from VA sign off for QA. | |
| 02:05 | Very important that it's tested. Purely selfless. | |
| 02:05 | jcamins | Of course. |
| 02:08 | * chris_n | adds .mailmap to help standardize authors' name/email addy |
| 02:10 | rangi | good plan |
| 02:11 | Brooke | chris_n++ |
| 02:11 | surely we must mod him up so that we don't needs share him with society. | |
| 02:18 | * jcamins | supposes he has a couple of patches for the .mailmap. |
| 02:18 | jcamins | Well, one patch with several lines. |
| 02:19 | * chris_n | built this from what he saw in the log |
| 02:19 | chris_n | so probably missed a bunch of folks stuff |
| 02:19 | jcamins | chris_n: I haven't had any recent patches from my other addresses. |
| 02:20 | However, there are unpushed patches from all three other e-mails that I've used. | |
| 02:21 | chris_n | jcamins: feel free to send along a patch, and I'll promptly apply it |
| 02:21 | jcamins | chris_n: will do. Not just now, but when I get a chance. |
| 02:22 | chris_n | great |
| 02:23 | if everyone does that, things should be in order shortly | |
| 02:23 | Brooke | time to leave you gents alone. Framboise's busted. |
| 02:37 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #10: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/10/ |
| 02:37 | chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.06.02.000 05 Dec 2011 01:51:54 Z | |
| 02:37 | Starting build 11 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) | |
| 02:38 | chris_n | "STILL UNSTABLE".... *sigh* |
| 02:39 | rangi | down to only 6 now |
| 02:39 | and im pretty sure sekjal knows how to fix those | |
| 02:39 | @later tell sekjal fix the tests ill give you a cookie | |
| 02:39 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:39 | rangi | there, sorted |
| 02:40 | chris_n | hehe |
| 02:40 | ok, sleepy time | |
| 02:40 | rangi | cya chris_n |
| 02:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 64 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 1 mo. 27 j ago) |
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| 03:21 | AmitG | heya chris gm |
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| 03:56 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #11: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 18 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/11/ |
| 03:56 | * chris.nighswonger: Adding template for autogeneration of 3.6.x release notes | |
| 03:56 | * chris.nighswonger: Adding a git mailmap file to allow standardizing of commit author's names/email | |
| 04:01 | Project Koha_3.4.x build #64: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 18 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/64/ | |
| 04:01 | * chris.nighswonger: Adding template for autogeneration of 3.4.x release notes | |
| 04:01 | * chris.nighswonger: Adding a git mailmap file to allow standardizing of commit author's names/email | |
| 04:05 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 04:05 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 04:05 | :) | |
| 04:05 | Tēnā rā koe, e te hoa rangi | |
| 05:01 | bag | evening |
| 05:01 | yo AmitG | |
| 05:01 | how's it going | |
| 05:01 | * bag | wonders if mtj? is around |
| 05:01 | bag | mtj? |
| 05:01 | wahanui | DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 05:01 | bag | heh |
| 05:18 | cait joined #koha | |
| 05:18 | Oak | Guten Morgen miss cait :) |
| 05:19 | @seen druthb | |
| 05:19 | huginn` | Oak: druthb was last seen in #koha 2 days, 16 hours, 33 minutes, and 1 second ago: <druthb> o/ |
| 05:19 | cait | hi mr Oak |
| 05:19 | Oak | :) |
| 05:19 | cait | hope she will show up today! |
| 05:19 | Oak | yes... |
| 05:21 | bag | heya cait and Oak |
| 05:21 | Oak | hello bag :) |
| 05:21 | cait | hi bag :) |
| 05:21 | bag | yo |
| 05:21 | eythian | hi all |
| 05:25 | Oak | hello Brave Sir Robin :) |
| 05:26 | cait | hi robin :) |
| 05:31 | bag | heya eythian |
| 05:31 | wahanui | somebody said eythian was in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
| 05:31 | bag | I'll go with NZ ;) |
| 05:32 | mtj | bag: im about - but soon to head off |
| 05:32 | bag | no worries - was just saying HI |
| 05:32 | * mtj | waves to the herd |
| 05:33 | mtj | bg? |
| 05:33 | wahanui | I LOVE BASEBALL AND BREAKFAST BURRITOS |
| 05:33 | bag | :D |
| 05:33 | mtj | zangGG!! |
| 05:33 | cait | hi mtj :) |
| 05:34 | mtj | heya cait |
| 05:35 | eythian | wahanui: coincidence is <reply>...or enemy action? |
| 05:35 | wahanui | i haven't a clue, eythian |
| 05:35 | eythian | wahanui: coincidence is <reply>...or enemy action... |
| 05:35 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 05:37 | mtj | hey robin, might see you at HZ tomorrow? |
| 05:38 | eythian | mtj: probably late if at all, I have seishinkan training tomorrow evening. |
| 05:39 | mtj | fyi: there's a beer tasting 6->9pm |
| 05:46 | cait | hm I don' tget the jokes about sweets |
| 05:46 | worrying | |
| 05:46 | Oak | probably a bug |
| 05:47 | :) | |
| 05:48 | hm I'm not funny | |
| 05:48 | worrying | |
| 05:48 | eythian | mtj: yeah, I have training 6-8, so don't usually make tastings. Also, it's not so much a tasting as "here's a lot of older stock for really cheap!" |
| 05:49 | mtj | aaah, i forgot that was the 'theme' :p |
| 05:50 | ok, gotta scoot peeps.... | |
| 05:54 | eythian | you gotta poop sceets? |
| 06:35 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6740] can add items at ordering but not remove items <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6740> |
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| 07:30 | alex_a | morning koha ! |
| 07:33 | cait | hi alex_a :) |
| 07:38 | alex_a | bonjour cait :) |
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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:38 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
| 07:41 | cait | hi reiveune :) |
| 07:41 | reiveune | hi cait, everybody:) |
| 07:45 | cait | and before I leave... I need a sign-off for bug 6740 *hinthint* |
| 07:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6740 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , can add items at ordering but not remove items |
| 07:45 | cait | bbiab :) |
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| 07:48 | marcelr | morning koha |
| 07:49 | rangi | hi marcelr, reiveune and alex_a |
| 07:49 | marcelr | hi rangi |
| 07:49 | reiveune | hi rangi |
| 07:49 | marcelr | i am looking for a signoff on follow up 6786 |
| 07:50 | just one line of code touched | |
| 07:51 | rangi | ill take a look now |
| 07:51 | marcelr | great |
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| 07:52 | rangi | ahh yep, that looks fine |
| 07:54 | and yep it works | |
| 07:54 | signed off | |
| 07:54 | marcelr | rangi: thanks |
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| 08:10 | asaurat | hi! |
| 08:11 | marcelr | hello asaurat |
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| 08:11 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:12 | marcelr | hi gaetan_B |
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| 08:19 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:22 | from away to afk? | |
| 08:22 | god morgen magnus_afk | |
| 08:22 | marcelr++ rangi++ | |
| 08:23 | magnuse | g'day kf marcelr rangi & #koha |
| 08:24 | rangi | heya magnuse |
| 08:24 | wahanui | magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 08:24 | magnuse | hehe |
| 08:26 | asaurat | lol |
| 08:26 | marcelr | hi kf |
| 08:27 | asaurat | hi kf! |
| 08:27 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 08:27 | kf | hi asaurat :) |
| 08:28 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 08:28 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 5.3°C (9:24 AM CET on December 05, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1007.7 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:29 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:29 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 05, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 28.47 in 964 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:29 | magnuse | oh? feels colder! |
| 08:29 | kf | asaurat: schöneres wetter in marseille? |
| 08:31 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 08:31 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 05, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:31 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 08:31 | asaurat | ja, die Sonne ist da und wir haben noch 10 grad! |
| 08:31 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on December 05, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:32 | kf | asaurat: ooh! |
| 08:32 | asaurat | 14 hmm =) |
| 08:32 | Diese Winter soll bequem sein :p | |
| 08:33 | kf | bisher ist es nicht so kalt hier - aber viel Nebel |
| 08:33 | a lot of fog | |
| 08:36 | asaurat | will the lake get frozen ? :) |
| 08:37 | kf | unlikely |
| 08:37 | or not all of the lake, that's very rare | |
| 08:37 | but some parts do and my coworkers go ice skating in the lunch breaks sometimes | |
| 08:37 | Oak | magnuse |
| 08:38 | magnuse | Oak |
| 08:38 | kf | wb Oak |
| 08:38 | Oak | :) |
| 08:53 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7154] Group borrower attributes and link between patron category and attribute <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7154> |
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| 08:59 | francharb | morning #koha |
| 09:00 | magnuse | bonjour francharb |
| 09:11 | kf | morning francharb |
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| 09:50 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7013] required format is not enforced for authorized values <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7013> |
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| 12:44 | marcelr | kf: about 7167: if we force it, why not force the linear order too like we do now? |
| 12:45 | kf | marcelr: I think we should do that... |
| 12:46 | marcelr | but why the change then? |
| 12:46 | kf | marcelr: I am not totally persuaded by the 'dilenarize' part of the idea |
| 12:46 | I am worrying about not being able to find out what's going wrong for someone | |
| 12:46 | marcelr | i can understand that |
| 12:46 | kf | making it easier for devs is one thing, but mostly we have users with not so much knowledge about the database structures |
| 12:46 | and they should apply everyting | |
| 12:47 | and in a certain order | |
| 12:47 | because things build on each other | |
| 12:47 | so the interface sould suggest that at least and make it easy | |
| 12:47 | marcelr | only prevent the merge stuff in updatedb? |
| 12:47 | kf | sorry? |
| 12:48 | marcelr | prevent that you resolve conflicts in script |
| 12:48 | kf | sorry, I don't understand |
| 12:48 | marcelr | in updatedatabase.pl (the old way) |
| 12:49 | kf | I think the idea was to make it easier to have local changes and manage that |
| 12:49 | marcelr | well, maybe the list should say some more about it first |
| 12:53 | jcamins_away | marcelr: the reason I support the delinearization is that it makes it possible for us non-geniuses to test interactions between updates. |
| 12:53 | kf | I like the idea of seeing the updates donein a central place |
| 12:54 | marcelr | jcamins: example? |
| 12:54 | jcamins | From a user function point of view, I don't see this as being any different from what we have now. |
| 12:55 | marcelr: hourly loans + anything else. | |
| 12:56 | marcelr | isn;t that just dev stuff? git + run a a sql file or so? |
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| 12:57 | jcamins | marcelr: yes, as I said, I see minimal changes for the user. |
| 12:57 | marcelr | do we need it then in the staff client? |
| 12:58 | jcamins | I think the idea with showing what's been applied is just to make it easier for troubleshooting. |
| 12:58 | So that a person trying to troubleshoot an odd problem doesn't have to open up updatedatabase and figure out what database changes have been applied. | |
| 12:59 | marcelr | yes i can see that |
| 12:59 | but it could create new strange problems | |
| 13:00 | jcamins | Everything can create new problems. |
| 13:00 | marcelr | wasn't there an idea also about reverting db revs? |
| 13:00 | jcamins | That was sekjal's idea. It is *not* part of this. |
| 13:00 | marcelr | ok |
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| 13:00 | jcamins | I agree with you about reverting adding new levels of complexity. |
| 13:01 | marcelr | some dbrevs could easily add a revert portion of code |
| 13:01 | jcamins | As far as I'm concerned, the delinearization is a developer-only feature, and if someone doesn't want to apply an update, it's their problem to avoid it. |
| 13:01 | Yeah, but some couldn't. And it would certainly raise the bar to entry. | |
| 13:02 | marcelr | well, i wait for comments on my testing |
| 13:02 | thanks | |
| 13:02 | kf | sorry, coworker in office :) now reading back |
| 13:06 | jcamins: so you agree it should force teh normal user to do all? | |
| 13:06 | updates? | |
| 13:06 | jcamins | kf: if I were dictator of the world, that's what I'd do. |
| 13:06 | kf | marcelr: about granular permission for lists - will try to comment tonight |
| 13:06 | jcamins | Require everyone to run everything. |
| 13:06 | kf | jcamins: you have my vote ;) |
| 13:07 | marcelr: I wanted to add a feature - I think you have seen the bug. but the list code is very confusing and I think we can make it better now with the new templating system. | |
| 13:08 | marcelr: I think an overhaul of that code is a good idea and talking about how it shoudl work first is also good :) | |
| 13:10 | marcelr | kf: will look forward to your feedback |
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| 13:14 | jcamins | oleonard: marcelr seeks your input on his lists proposal. |
| 13:14 | And good morning. | |
| 13:14 | oleonard | Hi |
| 13:14 | marcelr | hello oleonard |
| 13:16 | kf | hi oleonard |
| 13:16 | :) | |
| 13:16 | could you look at a patch perhaps? | |
| 13:16 | * oleonard | hasn't read the thread carefully yet but will do so and respond |
| 13:16 | kf | I was struggling with javascript last night |
| 13:16 | oleonard | kf: Sure |
| 13:16 | kf | ah, I forgot to send it to the list |
| 13:17 | jcamins | oleonard: I thought you might have comments, given your experience with "A list of books appropriate for young adults with overdeveloped interests in escapism developed by too much time spent reading the Lord of the Rings books as children." |
| 13:18 | kf | bug 6749 |
| 13:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6749 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, Use insert_fields_ordered instead of insert_grouped_fields in C4::Biblio::ModBiblioMarc |
| 13:18 | kf | bug 6740 |
| 13:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6740 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , can add items at ordering but not remove items |
| 13:18 | kf | I never get the bug numbers right on first try |
| 13:18 | jcamins | I've noticed this about you. :P |
| 13:18 | kf | oleonard: I am quite sure I am right about the problem - but not sure my solution is a good one |
| 13:18 | jcamins: not good with numbers | |
| 13:21 | jcamins | :) |
| 13:22 | kf | oleonard: so horribleß |
| 13:22 | ? | |
| 13:24 | oleonard | kf: I noticed that bug report and knew some difficult js work must be involved |
| 13:27 | kf | it was a bit hard to find out - but learned about some features in firebug that way :) |
| 13:27 | how to step through javascript step by step, that was really useful | |
| 13:28 | the problem is quite simple in the end: selecting the first and second link element does not work any longer now that you can have plugins, so we need a better selection of the right elements | |
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| 14:18 | oleonard | jcamins: I like how you had that list name right on the tip of your tongue |
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| 14:55 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7319] Improve specificity of title and breadcrumbs on acquisitions Z39.50 search pages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7319> |
| 14:55 | * oleonard | is happy to have gotten a quick signoff for Bug 1623 |
| 14:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1623 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Retain history of approved comments |
| 15:00 | * oleonard | polishes the "needs signoff" badge on Bug 6933 |
| 15:00 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6933 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add a view of titles with a particular tag to the staff client |
| 15:12 | jcamins | oleonard: I may have gotten a few words in that list name wrong, but that was the gist, no? |
| 15:12 | oleonard | Yup :) |
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| 15:43 | Brooke | o/ |
| 15:44 | magnus_afk | \o |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | hi |
| 15:44 | wahanui | hola, wizzyrea |
| 15:44 | jcamins | magnuse: I had something to tell you. I don't remember what. |
| 15:44 | Did you have a question that I promised to answer? | |
| 15:44 | magnuse | jcamins: that's ok, i don't remember it either |
| 15:45 | :-) | |
| 15:45 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:45 | magnuse | not that i recall |
| 15:45 | jcamins | Good. |
| 15:56 | kf | oleonard: thx a lot! |
| 15:56 | oleonard++ | |
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| 16:07 | * Brooke | hugs francharb |
| 16:07 | francharb | hi Brooke ! |
| 16:08 | Brooke | ca va? |
| 16:08 | francharb | fine! you? |
| 16:08 | i just a 15min break | |
| 16:08 | Brooke | good enough for gummint woik |
| 16:08 | francharb | hehe |
| 16:08 | i'm coming back! | |
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| 16:21 | libsysguy | seen druthb |
| 16:21 | wahanui | druthb was last seen on #koha 3 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: o/ [Fri Dec 2 12:46:13 2011] |
| 16:22 | libsysguy | druthb I have a question for you |
| 16:22 | jcamins | Flee! Run for your lives! libsysguy has a question for druthb! |
| 16:22 | kf | uhoh |
| 16:22 | magnuse | oh noes |
| 16:22 | libsysguy | everyone scatter libsysguy is doing an import of ALL THE OLD MARC RECORDS |
| 16:22 | * jcamins | takes cover under a desk. |
| 16:23 | kf | why would he do that? |
| 16:23 | libsysguy | oops druthb nevermind...i see the file |
| 16:23 | well a lot of our records came in with broken diacritics and truncated subjects | |
| 16:24 | so I'm checking on a test server to see if it happens again | |
| 16:24 | jcamins | libsysguy: you saw kf's fix for stage_biblios or whatever it's called? |
| 16:25 | libsysguy | i didn't |
| 16:25 | but if its been pushed i have it | |
| 16:25 | i just did an update | |
| 16:25 | * druthb | is hiding under a table, Just In Case |
| 16:25 | jcamins | libsysguy: not sure it's been pushed. If it hasn't, cherry-pick it. |
| 16:25 | libsysguy | \0/ druthb |
| 16:26 | kf | libsysguy: you have to select utf-8 or whatever when staging, don't go with default |
| 16:26 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 16:26 | hmm well I think i have to do this import with the shell script | |
| 16:26 | kf | when you use the gui, but same for the command line stage script |
| 16:26 | libsysguy | its about a gig |
| 16:26 | kf | tell it explicitly |
| 16:26 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 16:26 | so there was my downfall | |
| 16:27 | kf | and I am talking about the stage command line script |
| 16:27 | not about bulkmarcimport | |
| 16:27 | libsysguy | oh...interesting |
| 16:27 | jcamins | Right. Don't use bulkmarcimport. |
| 16:27 | libsysguy | oh really |
| 16:27 | jcamins | We used bulkmarcimport at the ANS. Big mistake. |
| 16:27 | libsysguy | crap...i think thats what I used |
| 16:27 | jcamins | Huge mistake. |
| 16:27 | libsysguy | *facepalm* |
| 16:27 | * jcamins | thought he was the only one who didn't know about that. |
| 16:28 | jcamins | I guess we should put that in the documentation? |
| 16:28 | libsysguy | yeah I would concur with that |
| 16:28 | so this will lead me to my next question | |
| 16:28 | jcamins | "If you have diacritics, don't use bulkmarcimport." |
| 16:28 | kf | what's the problem with the bulk script? |
| 16:28 | libsysguy | how can i fix it |
| 16:28 | kf | interesting |
| 16:28 | wahanui | interesting is good |
| 16:28 | kf | I used it in the past and they did work |
| 16:28 | hmp. | |
| 16:28 | recent bug? | |
| 16:28 | * libsysguy | sobs quietly in corner |
| 16:29 | jcamins | libsysguy: matching rules with stage_biblio_file. |
| 16:29 | libsysguy | ahh yes |
| 16:29 | wait...I thought that didn't work...or it just doesn't work on item mods | |
| 16:30 | kf | items can't be modified |
| 16:30 | never with no tool | |
| 16:30 | jcamins | kf: not that recent. This was a problem back in 3.2. It's maybe only an issue for libraries with records converted from MARC-8 to Unicode? |
| 16:30 | kf | jcamins: perhaps? |
| 16:30 | jcamins | libsysguy: matching rules work for overlaying *bibs*. |
| 16:30 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 16:30 | kf | what he says :) |
| 16:30 | libsysguy | oh oh now I have a druthb question |
| 16:30 | jcamins | kf: that would be my guess. The problem was records from LC. |
| 16:30 | kf | jcamins: could be then, we get them directly and do some additonal normalization |
| 16:31 | directly in utf and highly unlikely they were marc-8 before :) | |
| 16:31 | libsysguy | if i have a biblios file from an ILS that shall remain unnamed...can I just use the stage script on the bib mrc file instead of merging the items |
| 16:31 | jcamins | kf++ # normalization and no conversions = good ideas |
| 16:31 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:34 | kf | libsysguy: matching on? |
| 16:34 | and not suer what you want to do | |
| 16:34 | libsysguy | yeah I just thought about that |
| 16:35 | sad day...this merge is taking forever | |
| 16:38 | druthb | libsysguy: if you're not wanting to add or modify items, then yeah. |
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| 16:40 | kf | ok, leaving :) |
| 16:40 | cya all later :) | |
| 16:40 | kf left #koha | |
| 16:41 | * Brooke | curses these fat fingers. |
| 16:46 | libsysguy | druthb how can it do the matching then? |
| 16:46 | i had the same question as kf | |
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| 16:47 | druthb | you need some match-point, obviously--the 020$a, or the 001, or something. |
| 16:48 | libsysguy | ahh ok so I can use the 001 :) |
| 16:48 | yayy | |
| 16:48 | no mashing for libsysguy today | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | libsysguy: if the old system had some sort of ID number, that's the best option. |
| 16:49 | libsysguy | well the oclc number should be unique |
| 16:49 | * libsysguy | would think it would be anyway |
| 16:49 | jcamins | libsysguy: bwahahahaha! |
| 16:49 | Yeah, that should be fine. | |
| 16:50 | libsysguy | well I had some kind of terrible misconceptions about ISBN's |
| 16:50 | jcamins | You thought they were unique? |
| 16:50 | * libsysguy | shamefully says yes |
| 16:50 | jcamins | There there. It's okay. We've all been there. |
| 16:51 | oleonard | "Hey everybody, let's create a long, arcane identifying number to attach to things, but then make it non-unique!" |
| 16:51 | Who was not there to smack that guy? | |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Those of us who handled Central Asian books just learned a bit faster than others. |
| 16:51 | oleonard | call the time cops. |
| 16:51 | * libsysguy | goes back to the corner to sob softly with his ignorance of library crazieness |
| 16:51 | Brooke | time cops hell, send word to snail ;) |
| 16:52 | jcamins | Who's snail? |
| 16:55 | libsysguy | so kf or jcamins |
| 16:55 | you said I had to specify the encoding in the stage file | |
| 16:55 | right? | |
| 16:55 | jcamins | libsysguy: yeah, you'll want to check in the script what command line argument is needed. |
| 16:56 | libsysguy | yeah i just looked...it said if it was blank encoding = utf8 |
| 16:56 | rhcl | If I remember, snail is a developer in NZ who works on something dealing with code and commit statistics and publicity or something link that. Obviously I don't know what I'm talking about. |
| 16:57 | s/like/link | |
| 16:57 | jcamins | libsysguy: set it to utf8 explicitly. |
| 16:57 | "Not specified = UTF-8" is a gross oversimplification. | |
| 16:58 | libsysguy | if($encoding = ""){$encoding = "utf8"'} |
| 16:59 | jcamins | Oh, kf must have added that. |
| 16:59 | Nice! | |
| 16:59 | libsysguy | kf++ |
| 16:59 | jcamins | kf++ |
| 16:59 | cait++ | |
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| 17:08 | Brooke | cheers |
| 17:16 | libsysguy_afk | hehe bag |
| 17:21 | rhcl | In military terms, a BAG is a Brigade Artillery Group. Also RAG = Regimental Artillery Group, CAG = Corps Artillery Group, DAG = Divisional Artillery Group |
| 17:21 | bag | bag = brendan arthur gallagher ;) |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | Arthur! |
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| 17:26 | jcamins | wizzyrea: as in King. |
| 17:26 | ;) | |
| 17:26 | cait | king? |
| 17:26 | what did I miss? | |
| 17:26 | koha a monarchy now? | |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | i always thought it was "alexander" or "arcturis" |
| 17:28 | jcamins | cait: Brendan's middle name. |
| 17:28 | cait | :) |
| 17:29 | oleonard | "artillery" would be a good middle name. |
| 17:30 | * wizzyrea | knows of a "Digby Danger" |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | yes, that's the kid's first and middle names. |
| 17:30 | Danger really is his middle name. | |
| 17:33 | jcamins | wizzyrea: is this a celebrity child? |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea | not yet |
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| 17:43 | cait | hi nengard |
| 17:43 | nengard | hiya |
| 17:45 | jcamins | Quick! Everyone say mean things about someone who isn't here while logbot's away! |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea | your mom! |
| 17:45 | jcamins | That's it! wizzyrea is barred from astronomy conferences! |
| 17:46 | * druthb | sends the men with the white coats after jcamins |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | vaguely rude retort! |
| 17:46 | druthb | snarky meta-comment! |
| 17:47 | oleonard | Enthusiastic but cluelessly off-topic question? |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | expression of love for the project represented here! |
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| 17:48 | wizzyrea | question regarding the previous usage of documentation |
| 17:48 | or lack thereof | |
| 17:48 | oleonard | That's not funny at all wizzyrea |
| 17:49 | wizzyrea | it's honest though! |
| 17:49 | oleonard | Okay fair enough :) |
| 17:49 | jcamins | druthb: http://xkcd.com/541/ |
| 17:51 | druthb | lol. (why did you send that to me? :)) |
| 17:52 | jcamins | druthb: you sent white-coated men after me in response to my retort to wizzyrea's "your mom" joke. |
| 17:52 | I was clarifying that it all made perfect sense. :P | |
| 17:52 | druthb | :D |
| 17:53 | libsysguy | I should be good using the UI to do the import of records once the staging script has done its thing |
| 17:53 | or do I need to use the shell tool | |
| 17:54 | jcamins | Right. |
| 17:54 | libsysguy: the former. You can use the UI | |
| 17:54 | libsysguy | yeah but its for 422K records |
| 17:54 | I just don't want to break the thing lol | |
| 17:54 | jcamins | libsysguy: as far as I know, that should work. |
| 17:54 | libsysguy | ok cool |
| 17:59 | cait | never tried it - both should work the same :) |
| 18:00 | libsysguy | ok cool...i need to apply some different rules anyway...i feel like once its staged it should have any issues |
| 18:00 | but that is a LOT of records | |
| 18:00 | (for us anyway) | |
| 18:01 | cait | you could slice them up if it turns out too big |
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| 18:35 | rangi | morning, looks like a telstraclear outage in island bay |
| 18:35 | maximep | our client saw this video http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]ging-in-koha-3-2/ , but it seems there's no Fast cataloging link in our install. How do I enable it ? |
| 18:36 | jcamins | maximep: you need to have a framework set up for it. |
| 18:37 | cait | FA framework |
| 18:37 | and perhaps a permission too | |
| 18:37 | maximep | not sure I understand |
| 18:37 | cait | maximep: at it's even better in 3.6 :) |
| 18:37 | 1) create a framework with frameworkcode FA | |
| 18:38 | there is one on the bywater page you can import into 3.6 afaik | |
| 18:38 | jcamins | cait: ah, yes, good point on the permissions. |
| 18:38 | cait | 2) check the catalaloging permissions of the librarians, there is one for fast add afaik |
| 18:38 | * jcamins | always uses a superlibrarian. |
| 18:38 | cait | 3) try to check out a barcode that does not exist in the database - you will get a message with a link to the fast add |
| 18:38 | 4) create fast add (add a title for example) save - create item - don't change barcode there! | |
| 18:39 | 5) save item - item will be checked out to the patron where you started from | |
| 18:39 | rangi | but only in 3.6.0 or .1 |
| 18:39 | cait | yep |
| 18:39 | only in 3.6 | |
| 18:39 | rangi | in 3.4 the you still have fast add |
| 18:39 | cait | in before 3.6 creating the framework is a bit more painful and it does no automatic checkout |
| 18:39 | rangi | just have to go to circ and choose it |
| 18:40 | and yeah no import/export of frameworks | |
| 18:41 | jcamins | nengard_quicklunch: so I guess you'll be off eating lunch for the next few hours? :P |
| 18:42 | maximep | thanks! |
| 18:46 | cait | fast adds are cool :) |
| 18:54 | rangi | this weather is pants |
| 18:54 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 18:54 | huginn` | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 06, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:55 | ibeardslee | looking 'good' for the ZooDoo tomorrow |
| 18:55 | rangi | heh |
| 18:57 | cait | can atarau go? |
| 19:01 | nengard | jcamins is goofy |
| 19:02 | rangi | naw |
| 19:02 | cait | heh |
| 19:02 | rangi | still contagious |
| 19:02 | cait | ooh :( |
| 19:02 | rangi | be inconsiderate to take him |
| 19:02 | cait | first missing kahu's birthday, now missing the zoo |
| 19:03 | poor atarau | |
| 19:03 | rangi | no one wants chicken pox for xmas |
| 19:04 | my stop bbiab | |
| 19:15 | back | |
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| 19:36 | * wizzyrea | sings "all I want for christmas is the chick-en pox..." |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | wait, no I don't. |
| 19:37 | cait | lol |
| 19:38 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:38 | * oleonard | has heard of moms hoping to get their kids chicken pox over with |
| 19:39 | * cait | got vaccine too |
| 19:40 | jcamins | oleonard: if you get chicken pox in your teens, it's much worse. |
| 19:40 | That happened to my best friend's younger sister. | |
| 19:41 | Well, I guess she was 11- not quite a teen. Tens, anyway. | |
| 19:42 | * chris_n | went to a pox party long ago |
| 19:42 | chris_n | and still got the shingles :-P |
| 19:46 | * jcamins | catalogs sealing wax. |
| 19:47 | now realizes that Puff the Magic Dragon is not about "ceiling wax." | |
| 19:47 | cait | sealing wax... |
| 19:47 | jcamins | Siegellack. |
| 19:47 | cait | in marc?? |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Not in MARC. |
| 19:48 | Maybe I should, though. | |
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| 20:02 | jcamins | cait: what does "Entwurf" mean? |
| 20:03 | chrisdothall | outline, sketch, design or blue print maybe? |
| 20:04 | cait | draft |
| 20:05 | normally I would say draft - notes about something but not the finished document, a first version or somehting | |
| 20:05 | jcamins | Ah, so "nach dem Entwurf von Someone" = "based on the design of Someone"? |
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| 20:05 | cait | hm |
| 20:05 | based on the draft of someone or on the idea of someone | |
| 20:06 | are we still talking about wax? | |
| 20:06 | and hi chrisdothall :) | |
| 20:07 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 20:07 | Yes we are. | |
| 20:08 | cait | oook. |
| 20:08 | you catalog weird things. | |
| 20:09 | NCARMichael | Hi all. Is there no way to send a single overdue notice, manually? |
| 20:09 | cait | hmm. |
| 20:10 | so it was not sent out and you want to repeat it manually? | |
| 20:10 | or what are you trying to do and why? | |
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| 20:10 | cait | hi kathryn |
| 20:11 | kathryn | Morning Cait : ) |
| 20:11 | Well morning for me | |
| 20:11 | NCARMichael | basically, yes. |
| 20:11 | cait | heh |
| 20:11 | chrisdothall | cait: terry pratchett reference? |
| 20:12 | cait | chrisdothall: didn't mean to? |
| 20:13 | chrisdothall | cait: you 'oook'd |
| 20:13 | ibeardslee | heh |
| 20:13 | cait | oh |
| 20:13 | chrisdothall: I only read them in German... so by accident :) | |
| 20:13 | ugh? | |
| 20:13 | (that was what the librarian does, right?) | |
| 20:14 | kathryn | cait: so it turns out (rangi just let me know your full name) that I was going to email you today : ) |
| 20:15 | chrisdothall | cait: yeah, so it was very fitting in this channel :) |
| 20:15 | cait | ah :) what about? |
| 20:16 | kathryn | cait: we have a potential client looking for translation and a digital library solution |
| 20:17 | cait: and just wanted you to ask you a couple of things - and I will do! : ) | |
| 20:17 | cait | ok |
| 20:17 | :) | |
| 20:17 | not seeing the connection yet | |
| 20:17 | but feel free to ask :) | |
| 20:20 | kathryn: now you made me really curious | |
| 20:24 | kathryn | cait: hello! sorry just went away for a sec, will write you a message shortly! |
| 20:24 | cait | ok :) |
| 20:26 | mtj | http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/r[…]ence-on-eye-gouge |
| 20:26 | interesting stuff | |
| 20:38 | rangi | oooh burn |
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| 21:04 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7321] Silence warns in Koha.pm <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7321> |
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| 21:25 | cait | bye all :) |
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| 22:31 | rhcl | Well, I guess Galen/Equinox is finishing up moving? |
| 22:31 | chris_n | moving where? |
| 22:32 | rhcl | new house - http://www.esilibrary.com/esi/[…]sitem.php?id=2181 |
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| 22:33 | chris_n | nice |
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| 22:34 | * phasefx | likes that there is a Chinese restaurant within walking distance :) |
| 22:36 | chris_n | chinese++ |
| 22:37 | now I'm hungry... | |
| 22:39 | eythian | hmm, Korean for lunch could be a goer. |
| 22:40 | It's a good sort of day for mildy spicy food. | |
| 22:40 | rhcl | Must be nice to have a Korean restaurant in the area. |
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| 22:41 | rangi | rhcl: we have 5 within 10 mins walk |
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| 23:03 | * chris_n | has to settle for fried chicken |
| 23:03 | chrisdothall | spicy fried chicken? |
| 23:04 | ibeardslee | KFC is just too far away now |
| 23:04 | chrisdothall | there location in wellington is horrible. |
| 23:04 | eythian | unless you happen to live in Mt Vic. |
| 23:05 | chrisdothall | spoilt... |
| 23:05 | ibeardslee | but it is better for me that they are so far away from work! |
| 23:05 | chris_n | KFC crispy aamof |
| 23:05 | chrisdothall | heh, I live in the hutt so there are kfcs everywhere. |
| 23:05 | I will miss them once I move... | |
| 23:47 | mtj | please keep the discussion of chicken off this channel, folks |
| 23:47 | .. some people here are 'poultry averse' | |
| 23:50 | jcamins_away | mtj: I hope no one is chocolate averse! |
| 23:50 | Mmm. Chocolate. | |
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| 23:55 | Judit | good morning |
| 23:55 | on the day of saint nicholas | |
| 23:55 | Phlunk3 | isnt that the 5th? :/ |
| 23:57 | Judit | he is coming on the evening/night on the 5th |
| 23:57 | but his day is the 6th |
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