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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:01 | * jcamins_away | finishes assembling the application, and goes to make pizza. |
| 00:01 | jcamins_away | The incomplete application, that is. |
| 00:14 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 00:14 | druthb | o/ |
| 00:17 | mtj | heya druthb |
| 00:17 | druthb | hi, mtj! :D |
| 00:19 | * mtj | waves from nz |
| 00:20 | mtj | had a great week after kohacon11 in goa |
| 00:20 | druthb | glad you got home safe, and glad you had fun! :) |
| 00:20 | mtj | but nice to be home now too |
| 00:20 | yeah, will def. go back | |
| 00:21 | goa was crazy cheap, | |
| 00:21 | jransom | heya mason |
| 00:21 | ruth | |
| 00:21 | et al | |
| 00:21 | mtj | and great food vege too |
| 00:21 | druthb | jransom! Hey, babe! |
| 00:23 | libsysguy | is there a shell marc export? |
| 00:23 | mtj | hey jo, sad news re: K$HA trademark in NZ :( |
| 00:24 | jransom: any plans for a paypal account soon, for donations, etc? | |
| 00:25 | libsysguy: hmm, not one in the koha repo ? i think | |
| 00:26 | ive def. written one (or two ) tho | |
| 00:26 | jransom | yup |
| 00:26 | I had so many offers of help | |
| 00:26 | pretty amazing | |
| 00:26 | and humbling | |
| 00:27 | check your email and also the blog post on koha-community.org | |
| 00:28 | mtj | jransom: consider cross-posting your email to CODE4LIB and NZ-LIBS mailing-lists too, please... |
| 00:28 | jransom | oh - sure - never thought of that |
| 00:30 | * mtj | checks its email... |
| 00:31 | mtj | jransom: also NZOSS lists too |
| 00:31 | http://nzoss.org.nz/mailinglists | |
| 00:31 | * ibeardslee | has asked the NZOSS council |
| 00:32 | mtj | chur, bro ;) |
| 00:33 | jransom | mason: can you post it to the NZOSS list? |
| 00:34 | mtj | i think anyone can? |
| 00:35 | but its prolly better posted by you, Jo | |
| 00:35 | jransom | sounds like ibeardslee has it in hand |
| 00:35 | mtj | http://lists.nzoss.org.nz/mail[…]listinfo/openchat |
| 00:40 | libsysguy: i checked my notes.... | |
| 00:40 | Soupermanito joined #koha | |
| 00:40 | mtj | $ mysql koha3_prod -e ” select marc from biblioitems where marc is not null and date(timestamp) > ’2010-08-01′” > marc.txt |
| 00:40 | ... was how i was dumping Koha marc records to a file | |
| 00:40 | libsysguy | oh sweet…thanks mtj |
| 00:41 | mtj++ | |
| 00:41 | druthb | mtj: that'd work, but post 3.4, would not include embedded items. |
| 00:42 | mtj | druthb: ah, yeah - no item records in my example |
| 00:43 | items weren't required in my situ... | |
| 00:55 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 00:57 | druthb | hi, BobB! :) |
| 01:00 | jransom | heya Bob |
| 01:05 | druthb left #koha | |
| 01:17 | ibeardslee | .. I suddenly got what HLT meant .. sigh |
| 01:26 | BobB | hi druthb |
| 01:26 | hey Jo, not such great news for you today | |
| 01:59 | rangi | back |
| 02:00 | jransom | heya |
| 02:01 | Hi Bob - no - itsbeen a very sad day but feeling chirpier now | |
| 02:01 | koha community is an amazing thing | |
| 02:02 | eythian | hi all |
| 02:02 | * eythian | is back in NZ again |
| 02:09 | rangi | jransom: it really is |
| 02:28 | eythian | jransom: <koalulz> hmm, the paypal return address is http://blog.kete.net.nz/ which appears deaded. |
| 02:29 | jransom | works for me mate |
| 02:29 | jcamins_away | Doesn't work for me, either. |
| 02:29 | * jcamins_away | just tested the URL. |
| 02:29 | jransom | and donations have been rolling in all day |
| 02:30 | ok - will off and investigate | |
| 02:30 | eythian | jransom: well, it's only after you've donated that you get this |
| 02:30 | and it doesn't work for me either, fwiw :) | |
| 02:30 | jransom | ok - i'm on to it |
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| 02:32 | Phlunk3 | is there somewhere written down what the actual issue with the copyright etc is? have heard it mentioned a few times but wasn't sure how it all came about. |
| 02:33 | rangi | no issue with copyright |
| 02:33 | jcamins_away | Phlunk3: you mean the trademark stuff? |
| 02:33 | Phlunk3 | yeah sorry, trademark :P |
| 02:33 | jcamins_away | It should be described in the first post on the koha-community.org front page. |
| 02:33 | Phlunk3 | tx |
| 02:34 | chris_n | blog address didn't work from here either |
| 02:34 | jcamins_away | There was an article by Galen Charlton. |
| 02:35 | jransom | ok - I have redone it - linking back to koha-community after the donation is finished. |
| 02:35 | rangi | http://lwn.net/Articles/386284/ is interesting too |
| 02:37 | Phlunk3 | tx rangi |
| 02:37 | eythian | (note that it's over a year old, but still relevant) |
| 02:38 | jransom | ok redone it on the koha-community site as well |
| 02:38 | sorry about that folks - | |
| 02:38 | eythian | sweet :) |
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| 02:49 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 02:49 | ibeardslee | I've just sent an email out to the NZOSS Openchat list. |
| 02:49 | Brooke | Kia Ora |
| 02:54 | eythian | http://youtu.be/t1F7N1waNWM |
| 02:56 | jransom | brooke |
| 02:56 | you are awake :) | |
| 02:56 | Brooke | of course |
| 02:56 | * Brooke | would not doze at this. |
| 02:59 | jransom | "will i just put down wasps" .. lol |
| 02:59 | crazy ethyian | |
| 02:59 | rangi | hehe |
| 03:01 | ibeardslee | heh gah maybe I should get my mail client to check all folders more often |
| 03:12 | eythian | http://twitter.com/#!/jonobacon <-- only 8,100 followers... |
| 03:12 | rangi | yeah, just tweeted it too |
| 03:14 | * jcamins_away | retweeted as well. |
| 03:14 | jcamins_away | For all 4 followers who aren't connected to Koha. |
| 03:14 | rangi | heh |
| 03:14 | eythian | heh |
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| 03:31 | AmitG | heya chris, jrnasom |
| 03:31 | rangi | hi AmitG |
| 03:31 | Brooke | hi Amit |
| 03:32 | jransom | heya amit |
| 03:32 | kmkale joined #koha | |
| 03:32 | jransom | Koutubha ! |
| 03:32 | eythian | hi kmkale |
| 03:32 | (et al.)( | |
| 03:32 | ) | |
| 03:33 | Brooke | other Indians in the house. |
| 03:33 | AmitG | heya Brooke |
| 03:38 | Brooke | http://deathstarpr.blogspot.co[…]teach-us-for.html |
| 03:45 | Judit1 | oh, i started to watch star wars from the beginning |
| 03:45 | again | |
| 03:45 | Brooke | :) |
| 03:45 | prolly do summat like that starting my Wednesday nightish | |
| 03:46 | Judit1 | but i still like the original 3 best |
| 03:46 | eythian | well. there's only 5 or 6 hours of watching anyway |
| 03:46 | Brooke | it helps me not be irritated by my stupid sister. |
| 03:48 | Judit1 | more then 2 hours each |
| 03:48 | i think | |
| 03:50 | eythian | so a bit over 6 hours then, still not too bad :) |
| 03:51 | Brooke | 13.28 according to IMDB for all |
| 03:51 | Judit1 | u |
| 03:51 | jransom | I am weary .... |
| 03:51 | eythian | that implies they're about 4.5 hours each... |
| 03:51 | Brooke | nope |
| 03:52 | about 2 hoursish each | |
| 03:52 | Judit1 | just as i said :) |
| 03:52 | eythian | that implies there are six movies... |
| 03:52 | Brooke | which there are :P |
| 03:52 | jransom | Brooke: fancy answering the code4liv query? |
| 03:52 | Judit1 | :D |
| 03:52 | eythian | no there aren't |
| 03:52 | Judit1 | 3 and 3 |
| 03:52 | hm | |
| 03:52 | jransom | i'm ready for home - might walk dog on the beach for a bit |
| 03:52 | Judit1 | what are you talking about ethyian |
| 03:52 | Brooke | you can cover your eyes and ears and pretend that 1-3 aren't there |
| 03:52 | but they are :P | |
| 03:52 | eythian | jransom: a good day for it. |
| 03:52 | (at least, here) | |
| 03:53 | Judit1: there are 4,5 and 6. | |
| 03:53 | that's all. | |
| 03:53 | chrisdothall | heh |
| 03:53 | rangi | good idea jransom |
| 03:54 | eythian | I always thought that a sequel to The Matrix could also be pretty neat. |
| 03:54 | jransom | they did a trilogy |
| 03:54 | eythian | no they didn't. |
| 03:54 | rangi | hehe |
| 03:54 | jransom | um .... yeah 3 parts? |
| 03:54 | eythian | nope. |
| 03:54 | jransom | and they were good |
| 03:54 | eythian | Just one. |
| 03:54 | jransom | matrix revolutions |
| 03:55 | was great (awesome soundtrack too) | |
| 03:55 | eythian | http://xkcd.com/566/ |
| 03:55 | Brooke | obvious troll is obvious |
| 03:56 | eythian | I would never! |
| 03:56 | https://twitter.com/#!/webmink <-- going around the free software world at a rate of knots | |
| 03:58 | Brooke | </cmontgomeryburns> Eggsellent </monty> |
| 03:58 | rangi | wow |
| 03:58 | Brooke | I think the rhum has infused the ice cubes |
| 03:59 | jransom | ethian: you are very very sily today |
| 03:59 | Brooke | today is an unnecessary limiter. |
| 03:59 | jransom | lol |
| 04:01 | eythian | http://www.reddit.com/r/koha/c[…]_system_keep_its/ <-- also, upvote this and it may hit the front page |
| 04:05 | rangi | hmm who downvoted it i wonder |
| 04:05 | eythian | it's very hard to tell, reddit messes with the info you get to counter spamming and gaming of the system |
| 04:05 | Brooke | I've one up 0 down on me tally |
| 04:07 | eythian | that's what I see, too |
| 04:08 | oh no wait: 3 omhoogstemmen 1 stem omlaag | |
| 04:08 | rangi | yeah |
| 04:09 | kmkale | Namaskaar #koha |
| 04:09 | Namaste jransom, eythian, Brooke, rangi :) | |
| 04:09 | Brooke | namaste |
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| 04:11 | jransom | ok well thats me donw. sleep well some and work hard others :) |
| 04:12 | rangi | :) |
| 04:12 | cya jransom | |
| 04:12 | Brooke | bye bye |
| 04:12 | rangi | https://twitter.com/#!/mosborn[…]38813229840351232 |
| 04:13 | Brooke | noice |
| 04:13 | I think that fits your shanking definition of love nicely, yes? | |
| 04:13 | jransom | oh yes - definiotely |
| 04:13 | rangi | :) |
| 04:13 | kmkale | Namaste Irma :) |
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| 04:14 | Brooke | last of the game yet |
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| 05:10 | Judit joined #koha | |
| 05:40 | cait joined #koha | |
| 05:40 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:51 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:51 | cait | morning robin |
| 05:51 | back from australia? | |
| 05:51 | eythian | yep, got back about midnight |
| 05:55 | cait | how did your presenation go? |
| 05:55 | eythian | it went well. Had a small but interested group, which is what this kind of thing tends to get. |
| 05:55 | cait | :) |
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| 07:12 | rangi | hey mtj |
| 07:13 | AmitG | heya rangi, cait |
| 07:13 | rangi | hmm hey magnuse |
| 07:13 | cait | hi AmitG and magnuse |
| 07:13 | magnuse | hiya rangi AmitG cait |
| 07:14 | AmitG | heya magnuse |
| 07:16 | magnuse | wow, human stupidity knows no bounds... :-( |
| 07:16 | rangi | yeah, it really doesnt |
| 07:18 | magnuse | i just made my (first) donation... |
| 07:19 | rangi | :) |
| 07:25 | cait | donated too |
| 07:27 | Susan joined #koha | |
| 07:28 | jransom joined #koha | |
| 07:28 | jransom | heya susan |
| 07:29 | Susan | hi jransom |
| 07:29 | i want to try configuring koha | |
| 07:29 | rangi | heya jransom |
| 07:29 | wahanui | it has been said that jransom is gonna *smek* someone. |
| 07:29 | rangi | hi Susan |
| 07:30 | Susan | the programmers have already downloaded it |
| 07:30 | hi rangi | |
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| 07:32 | Susan | someone help |
| 07:32 | rangi | we need more information than htat |
| 07:32 | have they installed it? | |
| 07:32 | alex_a | hell |
| 07:32 | o | |
| 07:32 | rangi | bonjour alex_a |
| 07:33 | alex_a | bonjour rangi |
| 07:33 | Susan | yes they have |
| 07:33 | rangi | so its all installed and working fine, you just need to set up your preferences etc? |
| 07:34 | and what version? | |
| 07:34 | Susan | we did a try and error before and when i went for the kohacon11 i discovered we were on the wrong truck |
| 07:34 | 3.6 | |
| 07:34 | rangi | cool |
| 07:35 | Susan | let me try but when i get stuck i will come back to you |
| 07:35 | rangi | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]/en/impadmin.html |
| 07:35 | Susan | my bosses are disappointed at our first attempt |
| 07:35 | rangi | heres a good place to start |
| 07:36 | http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/ is the whole manual | |
| 07:38 | Susan | thanks |
| 07:38 | so i have to read the whole of it first | |
| 07:39 | can i have 2 monitors, one for the manual and one with the system | |
| 07:39 | then i can configure while reading the manual? | |
| 07:40 | magnuse | sure! |
| 07:40 | rangi | yup, id start with the implementation checklist |
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| 07:41 | rangi | but yeah, two monitors is a good idea |
| 07:41 | Susan | ok |
| 07:41 | thanks | |
| 07:41 | rangi | bonjour paul_p, Ça va? |
| 07:42 | Susan | hi paul |
| 07:42 | cait | hi paul_p |
| 07:42 | paul_p | kia ora rangi & Susan & others |
| 07:42 | & cait | |
| 07:42 | rangi | paul_p: did you meet susan at kohacon11 ? |
| 07:42 | Susan | yes we did meet |
| 07:43 | * paul_p | will head for a meeting with AixMarseille university, to convince them switching to community/master in 2012... |
| 07:43 | rangi | oh excellent |
| 07:43 | paul_p | (and not go the StEtienne / Solr path) |
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| 07:43 | rangi | wb jransom |
| 07:43 | cait | paul_p: hope it goes well |
| 07:43 | paul_p | rangi, yes, we met. And the last time we met was ... at the airport. His plane took off at 4AM, our at 3AM :\ |
| 07:43 | rangi | eek |
| 07:44 | Susan | it was at 4.30am |
| 07:44 | magnuse | kia ora jransom |
| 07:44 | paul_p | cait, yep. Lyon3 has choosen this way (community/master), that should help. |
| 07:44 | Susan | was quite tired after checking in at midnight |
| 07:44 | jransom | this time maybe |
| 07:44 | i cant see any text | |
| 07:44 | oh there it is | |
| 07:44 | rangi | hehe |
| 07:45 | jransom | hello world :) |
| 07:45 | magnuse | hello jransom :-) |
| 07:45 | Susan | hallo back |
| 07:45 | :-) | |
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| 07:47 | cait | paul_p: very cool |
| 07:47 | time to go to work - bbiab :) | |
| 07:47 | * cait | waves at jo before running out |
| 07:47 | jransom | heya Cait |
| 07:47 | rangi | cya in a bit cait |
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| 07:48 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:48 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
| 07:48 | cait left #koha | |
| 07:51 | rangi | heya reiveune |
| 07:51 | wahanui | rumour has it reiveune is connected through the VPN |
| 07:51 | reiveune | hi rangi, everybody |
| 07:59 | * kmkale | has just donated some money to the HLT legal trademark fund :) |
| 07:59 | magnuse | kmkale++ |
| 07:59 | cait++ | |
| 08:00 | jransom | champion :) |
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| 08:02 | asaurat | hi! |
| 08:02 | rangi | hi asaurat and magnuse |
| 08:02 | doh | |
| 08:02 | matts | |
| 08:02 | tab completion is failing me today | |
| 08:02 | matts | hi ! |
| 08:02 | rangi | kmkale++ |
| 08:05 | magnuse | hehe |
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| 08:14 | francharb | hi #koha! |
| 08:15 | kf joined #koha | |
| 08:15 | rangi | hi francharb |
| 08:15 | wb kf | |
| 08:15 | magnuse | guten tag kf |
| 08:15 | bonjour francharb | |
| 08:15 | kf | :) |
| 08:19 | magnuse | wow, having "OPAC 5.6" as the page title for a detail view is less than impressive ;-) http://bibliotek.kristianstad.[…]hed+korparna+a/ob |
| 08:19 | kf | heh |
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| 08:30 | ams | is this the same koha that is in some kind of legal mess? |
| 08:31 | kf | ams: not sure the description fits 100 per cent |
| 08:31 | but this is the koha ils channel, yes | |
| 08:31 | ams | http://diligentroom.wordpress.[…]iblime-trademark/ |
| 08:31 | magnuse | tjänare ams |
| 08:31 | ams | was refering to that |
| 08:32 | magnuse | yup |
| 08:32 | ams | Has anyone talked to the FSF/SFLC for help? |
| 08:34 | http://www.fsf.org | http://www.softwarefreedom.org/ | |
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| 08:38 | ams | magnuse: Ok, tjo hej tjo hopp :-) |
| 08:38 | magnuse | ;-) |
| 08:39 | AmitG | heya ams :D |
| 08:39 | ams | AmitG: hi, do i know you? |
| 08:39 | magnuse | doesn't sound like anyone here at the moment has been in touch with fsf etc... |
| 08:39 | AmitG | ams: don't know |
| 08:39 | rangi | not me |
| 08:39 | ams | magnuse: that is a pitty, specially the sflc which helps free software projects with legal stuff. |
| 08:40 | magnuse: the fsf might not be able to help directly, but the sflc should be able to do so. | |
| 08:40 | AmitG: ah, so i'm the sore thumb sticking out here :-) | |
| 08:41 | magnuse | nope, not a sore thumb! you'd have to misbehave for a while to earn that monicker ;-) |
| 08:42 | rangi | heh |
| 08:48 | kf | magnuse: now I have to translate all your norwegian again! |
| 08:48 | or.. copy it over again with correct diacritics :) | |
| 08:48 | magnuse | kf: we really should find a better way to do that... |
| 08:49 | kf | ah, it's ok :) |
| 08:49 | magnuse | i hope normarc will be gone in 2-3 years time, though |
| 08:49 | well, i'd like not to worry about translating unimarc-specific stuff too... | |
| 08:50 | rangi | :) |
| 08:50 | yeah we must be able to do something about that | |
| 08:52 | magnuse | yay :-) |
| 08:57 | kf | rangi++ for fixing the diacritics :) |
| 09:04 | rangi | i did? |
| 09:05 | kf | yep you did :) |
| 09:06 | broken diacritics in the po files | |
| 09:07 | rangi | oh cool |
| 09:07 | yay | |
| 09:08 | magnuse | rangi++ # so awesome he fixes things without noticing ;-) |
| 09:08 | kf | hehe |
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| 10:09 | reed | howdy |
| 10:09 | did I miss anything? | |
| 10:09 | rangi | lol |
| 10:09 | * reed | has been under a rock for 6 or so months |
| 10:09 | rangi | with a hobbit on top? |
| 10:10 | reed | yep, and similar |
| 10:10 | hobbits w/ray guns | |
| 10:10 | rangi | ahhh |
| 10:11 | * rangi | is just about to go to sleep, got a demo/meeting in the morning |
| 10:11 | reed | it's an odd place for sure, fun tho |
| 10:11 | rangi | but radio nz, 7.15am |
| 10:11 | reed | have a good night, will catch you later |
| 10:11 | rangi | check it out if you are awake |
| 10:11 | reed | cool, will listen |
| 10:11 | probly will be | |
| 10:12 | is jo going to set up an bank account? | |
| 10:12 | liw | hi, reed |
| 10:12 | reed | hey! |
| 10:14 | i better wander off too, just wanted to check in; political agitation makes me want to write softwares as a way to fight back and silliness | |
| 10:14 | night all | |
| 10:14 | er something | |
| 10:15 | anyhow, planning to try to get back into it now that I've adjusted to my new work schedule some | |
| 10:15 | magnuse | yay |
| 10:15 | reed | :) |
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| 12:52 | NateC | Morning #Koha! |
| 13:05 | jwagner | Hi, NateC |
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| 13:15 | francharb | hi again |
| 13:15 | if i want to display the subscription tab on a specific biblio, i need biblio.serial=1, right? | |
| 13:18 | kf | I think that might be unimarc specific |
| 13:19 | francharb | kf, i dont think so |
| 13:19 | kf | I am not sure |
| 13:19 | francharb | kf, you can map biblio.serial with any biblio field... |
| 13:19 | kf | I thought for marc21 it's set to detect something in the leader |
| 13:20 | francharb | ah ok |
| 13:20 | kf | yep, but I think it's not mapped for marc21 |
| 13:20 | and the check uses the leader - but might be wrong | |
| 13:22 | francharb | thanks |
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| 14:10 | oleonard | The subscriptions tab displays if you have subscriptions attached to it |
| 14:11 | I don't think it obeys biblio.serial anymore | |
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| 14:15 | kf | oleonard: that makes sense |
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| 15:07 | wizzyrea | boo! I missed Reed! |
| 15:08 | kf | hey wizzyrea :) |
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| 15:18 | Carl | Hi! |
| 15:18 | Carl here | |
| 15:19 | What about place holds on ordered material? | |
| 15:19 | Without any item records | |
| 15:19 | kf | youneed items to place holds |
| 15:19 | Carl | well, I have heard that |
| 15:19 | kf | but you can have items for ordered materials |
| 15:20 | Carl | but our cataloguers doesn't like that |
| 15:20 | :-) | |
| 15:20 | kf | it's eitheror |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | what our libraries do |
| 15:20 | Carl | Que? |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | is create a dummy item |
| 15:20 | then turn that item into a "real" item when the first copy is received | |
| 15:21 | Carl | yes, that could be the way: a temporary item |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | http://www.nexpresslibrary.org[…]g-on-order-items/ |
| 15:21 | Carl | ok, thanks! |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | this is how my system does it |
| 15:22 | Carl | Great! |
| 15:23 | oleonard | Mine too |
| 15:23 | Carl | ok, see ya! |
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| 15:26 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 15:30 | jwagner | morning, jcamins |
| 15:45 | oleonard | jcamins: have you finished providing DNA samples for your coop application? |
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| 15:46 | kf | lol |
| 15:46 | jcamins | oleonard: the DNA samples for Shari and me weren't too bad. |
| 15:47 | It was DNA samples going back four generations that was a bit problematic. | |
| 15:47 | kf | hm |
| 15:47 | what does bar over bar mean?? | |
| 15:47 | it's somewhere in the 007 plugin | |
| 15:47 | jcamins | Uhhh... no idea. |
| 15:47 | * oleonard | hasn't heard that |
| 15:48 | Oak | bar, james bar |
| 15:48 | jcamins | Oh, music. |
| 15:48 | It's, you know, music. | |
| 15:48 | kf | ? |
| 15:48 | Oak | you are so analytical kf |
| 15:49 | jcamins | Like for keyboards, with multiple hands. |
| 15:49 | Oak | :) |
| 15:49 | kf | Oak: that's new to me |
| 15:49 | :) | |
| 15:49 | and I am still confused | |
| 15:49 | trying to finish the translation | |
| 15:49 | * jcamins | had never heard a special term for this. |
| 15:49 | kf | and I have the german marc21 translation, but can't find the right term |
| 15:49 | Oak | hm |
| 15:50 | jcamins | kf: http://www.all-about-beethoven[…]lightsonata_I.pdf |
| 15:50 | kf | ah |
| 15:50 | * Oak | decides to let kf work |
| 15:50 | jcamins | See, there's the right hand and the left hand, one on top of the other. |
| 15:50 | kf | it's related to braille |
| 15:51 | * kf | sends Oak cookies |
| 15:51 | kf | jcamins: thx :) |
| 15:51 | Oak | :) danke |
| 15:52 | jcamins | kf: you're welcome. I'm not sure I'm riht. |
| 15:52 | Oh, yes, I am. | |
| 15:52 | Cool! | |
| 15:52 | oleonard | being_right++ |
| 15:52 | kf | :) |
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| 15:53 | kf | jcamins++ :) |
| 15:54 | Oak | jcamins++ |
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| 15:56 | Carl | Hi again! |
| 15:56 | What about this: http://koha-community.org/plea[…]ua-library-trust/ | |
| 15:56 | It's horrendous | |
| 15:56 | Oak | ? |
| 15:57 | Carl | Or, do I missing the "big picture" |
| 15:57 | wizzyrea | pretty sure you're not missing the big picture. |
| 15:57 | trea | nope, not missing it. |
| 15:57 | Carl | ok |
| 15:58 | so, LibLime is just evil | |
| 15:58 | what about ByWater? | |
| 15:58 | kf | a- Safety base, undetermined? |
| 15:58 | Carl | or the other commerical firms? |
| 15:58 | oleonard | ByWater contributes all its developments back to the project |
| 15:58 | kf | I think the big difference is that liblime does not offer koha - the others do |
| 15:58 | jcamins | kf: that's film. |
| 15:58 | * wizzyrea | imagines the safety base, immediately leaps to safety dance. |
| 15:59 | kf | jcamins: yes, but no idea how to translate and can't find it *grumble+ |
| 15:59 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 15:59 | Carl | ok |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]ovKfyTBII&ob=av3e |
| 15:59 | jcamins | Photography book? |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | ah I miss the days when videos made sense ^.^ |
| 16:00 | Carl | so, I guess this is a old and distressing issue |
| 16:00 | Barrc | Anyone around who knows the member.pl script reasonably well? |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | carl: it's at least 3 years old |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Barrc: make sure you have a default circulation rule for ALL-ALL-ALL. |
| 16:01 | Barrc: chances are good the lack of one is what's causing your problem. | |
| 16:01 | kf | jcamins: if it#s in film, why can't I find it :( |
| 16:01 | jcamins | kf: I don't know. Do I look like a film expert? :) |
| 16:01 | reiveune | bye |
| 16:02 | Barrc | jcamins: But you haven't heard the problem yet!! |
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| 16:02 | Carl | wizzyrea: ok |
| 16:02 | kf | jcamins: no, but you know a lot about marc21 :) |
| 16:02 | jcamins: and I needed someone to complain to | |
| 16:02 | jcamins | Barrc: true, that was going to be my next suggestion, that you tell us what it is. :) |
| 16:02 | * jcamins | is in rare form today. |
| 16:02 | Barrc | :-) |
| 16:03 | OK - for some patron searches I get this: | |
| 16:03 | Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/members/member.pl line 138 | |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | what version? |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Barrc: hm. 3.6? |
| 16:03 | wahanui | 3.6 is, like, more relevant |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | define "some" |
| 16:03 | Barrc | 3.05.00.001 |
| 16:04 | that line - 138 - shows a dereferences value that doesn't exist - anywhere! | |
| 16:04 | jcamins | Barrc: you have corrupted patron records. |
| 16:05 | oleonard had this problem about a year ago. Does oleonard remember how it was solved? | |
| 16:05 | Barrc | jcamins: That is very possible! |
| 16:05 | oleonard | I did? |
| 16:06 | The statute of limitations on that memory has expired. | |
| 16:06 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, you did. Actually, it couldn't have been a year ago. 9 months, maybe. |
| 16:06 | Barrc | The line in question is this: |
| 16:06 | %{$categories_dislay{$$borrower{categorycode}}}, | |
| 16:06 | AAHHHH! | |
| 16:06 | jcamins | categories_dislay? That doesn't look right. |
| 16:06 | Barrc | is it display> |
| 16:06 | instead of dislay | |
| 16:06 | ? | |
| 16:07 | jcamins | Seems possible. Could you update to 3.6.0? |
| 16:07 | Barrc | I could..... |
| 16:07 | jcamins | Nope, it's dislay. |
| 16:07 | Ooh! Check if your borrowers table still has a primary key. | |
| 16:08 | Possibly you no longer have a primary key, and have duplicate borrowernumbers. | |
| 16:08 | kf | ouch! |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | would we have talked about it in IRC? |
| 16:08 | if so, it'd be in the log. | |
| 16:09 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I suspect it would be in ByWater's ticketing system. |
| 16:09 | oleonard | jcamins: Now that sounds familiar |
| 16:09 | * wizzyrea | looks around furtively |
| 16:09 | sekjal | what issue? |
| 16:09 | Barrc | primary key still intact |
| 16:09 | wahanui | i think issue is if I want to do criculation (check out or check in) there will be an error in Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2829. |
| 16:09 | sekjal | sorry (was in the other room) |
| 16:10 | ah, the hashref on 138? | |
| 16:10 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 16:10 | Barrc: hmm. So much for that idea. | |
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| 16:11 | Barrc | sekjal - yes, it looks like its calling a value that doesn't exist |
| 16:13 | sekjal | Barrc: ah, found it in our knowledge base |
| 16:13 | check the case on your borrower categorycodes | |
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| 16:14 | Barrc | OK - should they be all lower? |
| 16:14 | jcamins | Oh yeah. |
| 16:14 | sekjal | upper, to match the code in the categories table |
| 16:14 | jcamins | I was close. |
| 16:14 | Barrc | cool - I will check it out. |
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| 16:22 | Barrc | sekjal: Thank you! lower case code in the borrowers table! Changing them now, I am sure that will resolve - thanks! |
| 16:23 | sekjal | Barrc: glad to help |
| 16:24 | kf | subfield c *cries* |
| 16:26 | jcamins | kf: ? |
| 16:26 | * wizzyrea | gives kf cookies |
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| 16:26 | kf | pootle works alphabetical |
| 16:26 | I am at subfield c- now | |
| 16:26 | and there are a lot more | |
| 16:26 | thx wizzyrea | |
| 16:26 | * wizzyrea | nods sympathetically |
| 16:26 | * kf | really needs cookies |
| 16:27 | * jcamins | bought eggs yesterday so he could bake. |
| 16:27 | * wizzyrea | sends kf home made oatmeal chocolate chip coconut cookies |
| 16:27 | kf | oooh! yummy! |
| 16:27 | jcamins | Mmmm. |
| 16:27 | !! Mosfilm is posting 200 full films onto YouTube in 2011. | |
| 16:28 | That's so cool! | |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | jcamins: that's a variant of my FAVORITE oatmeal cookie recipe - the one that you sent us that was coconut curry oatmeal cookies |
| 16:28 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea: I thought it might be. | |
| 16:28 | * wizzyrea | uses that recipe even if she doesn't put the curry in |
| 16:28 | rhcl | I haven't had ginger snaps in 35 years |
| 16:28 | * jcamins | too |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | love it because you can put fruit, nuts, chocolate, whatever in it and it always tastes good. |
| 16:29 | rhcl: pity, we made some just a couple of weeks ago | |
| 16:29 | and they were delightful | |
| 16:29 | rhcl | oh |
| 16:29 | well, good, I'm glad you enjoyed them. | |
| 16:30 | delightful, huh? | |
| 16:30 | I can almost taste them | |
| 16:30 | but not, of course | |
| 16:30 | wizzyrea | nod |
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| 16:44 | kf | sekjal: around? |
| 16:44 | sekjal | kf: yes |
| 16:44 | kf | can you take a look at bug 7250 perhaps? |
| 16:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7250 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , stage_biblios_file.pl is missing options for encodings, wrongly passing the MARC flavour instead |
| 16:45 | kf | I am not sure how many people use that script |
| 16:45 | Uli tested it today and gave it a sign-off, but might need an external one too? | |
| 16:46 | sekjal | kf: will look |
| 16:46 | kf | thx |
| 16:54 | Oak | kf, time to go home. |
| 16:56 | kf | Oak: right :) |
| 16:56 | Oak | :) |
| 16:57 | jcamins | I need a synonym for "film," that refers to the physical stuff. |
| 16:57 | kf | tape? |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 16:57 | kf | or what do youmean with physical? |
| 16:58 | :) | |
| 16:58 | and I was so bad at synonyms at school :) | |
| 16:58 | jcamins | That's what I meant. |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | plastic film? |
| 16:58 | jcamins | Hm, actually, that won't work, because people will understand "tape" to mean "VHS." |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | photographic plastic film |
| 16:59 | negatives? | |
| 16:59 | photographic film? | |
| 16:59 | kf | bye :) |
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| 16:59 | wizzyrea | roll film? |
| 16:59 | jcamins | Panchromatic film. |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | but yea, they're all types of film |
| 16:59 | jcamins | Or Orthochromatic film. |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | because you have monochromatic film too |
| 17:00 | jcamins | Probably orthochromatic film. |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | roll film |
| 17:00 | is what I would do | |
| 17:00 | most film comes in rolls | |
| 17:00 | of one sort or another | |
| 17:00 | except of course polaroid | |
| 17:01 | jcamins | Ooh, "nitrate film" is probably clearest. |
| 17:01 | wizzyrea | photographic material |
| 17:01 | celluloid | |
| 17:02 | sekjal | kf: 7250 passed QA |
| 17:02 | jcamins | celluloid. Nice! |
| 17:02 | Thanks! | |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | lol yw |
| 17:04 | magnuse | sekjal: someone said bywater might be working on letting patrons self-register in the opac - ring any bells? |
| 17:04 | sekjal | magnuse: yes, we've got a couple libraries requesting that functionality |
| 17:05 | no spec yet (so no code, either) | |
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| 17:05 | oleonard | That's on our list for possible development in the next year |
| 17:05 | magnuse | ah, ok, thanks |
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| 17:05 | oleonard | sponsorship that is |
| 17:06 | magnuse | cool |
| 17:06 | i think Carl might be interested in that too, but i see he's not round anymore | |
| 17:07 | sekjal, oleonard: can i namedrop the two of you to him, in case he's interested in discussing sharing the costs? | |
| 17:07 | oleonard | Fine by me |
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| 17:09 | sekjal | gladly |
| 17:09 | magnuse | cool, thanks |
| 17:09 | sekjal | I'd love to see an open, community-based spec for this |
| 17:09 | magnuse | open++ |
| 17:09 | community-based++ | |
| 17:09 | sekjal | I'm sure any one libraries use-case would differ from another's, but if we can all chip in on how we'd want to use it, we can code more generically |
| 17:10 | * oleonard | is picturing some kind of matrix |
| 17:10 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 17:11 | * jcamins | pictures patrons dodging bullets as they register for library cards. |
| 17:11 | jcamins | (a la Matrix) |
| 17:11 | sekjal | jcamins: when the times comes, they won't have to |
| 17:11 | magnuse | something with vertically scrolling green text, eh? |
| 17:11 | oleonard | sekjal: :D |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | rofl |
| 17:12 | jcamins | sekjal++ # _that_'s taking the ball and running with it :) |
| 17:12 | sekjal | :) |
| 17:16 | wizzyrea | hey bag, how about b_g |
| 17:16 | magnuse | thanks folks! time to make dinner here |
| 17:17 | jcamins | Mmm. Pizza Tuesday? |
| 17:17 | Oh, wait, no, that's here in New York, not in Norway. :) | |
| 17:17 | b_g | hmm… |
| 17:17 | wizzyrea | or b.g |
| 17:18 | or b.g. | |
| 17:18 | b_g kind of looks like a face ^.^ | |
| 17:19 | brendang? | |
| 17:19 | brendangallagher | bren dang |
| 17:19 | oleonard | or brendagnabbit |
| 17:19 | brendangallagher | how about dang |
| 17:19 | wizzyrea | dangnabbit is a great name |
| 17:19 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 17:19 | wizzyrea | bilbio? |
| 17:20 | has a bit of an italian flair | |
| 17:26 | francharb | bye all |
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| 17:31 | magnus_afk | jcamins: friday is pizza day, at least where i am ;-) today is duck breast and orange sauce day |
| 17:31 | jcamins | magnus_afk: mmm. That sounds tasty. |
| 17:31 | * jcamins | has been having pizza a lot recently, because Shari can *always* be persuaded to eat pizza. All bets are off for other food. |
| 17:34 | magnus_afk | heh |
| 17:34 | Shari++ | |
| 17:37 | * paul_p | head home |
| 17:37 | paul_p | see you tomorrow #koha |
| 17:39 | bilbo | heh /nick bilbio |
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| 17:41 | Oak | hello miss cait :) |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | bye paul_p thanks for pushing the patches this week :D |
| 17:43 | Oak | paul_p++ |
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| 17:44 | Oak | me go now. time to sleep. later. |
| 17:46 | cait | yep, paul_p++ |
| 17:46 | and hi all :) | |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | wb cait :) |
| 17:52 | slef | hi all |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | hi slef :) |
| 17:53 | magnus_afk | hiya slef |
| 17:53 | just curious - any news on the dates for kohacon12? | |
| 17:53 | slef | no :((( |
| 17:54 | magnus_afk | no worries - we'll get there ;-) |
| 17:54 | slef | basically we asked how to pay one venue, now tumbleweed is blowing through... very strange! |
| 17:54 | and I'm busy with 99 red balloo^W^W other things | |
| 17:55 | cait | heh |
| 17:55 | slef: hope it works out soon :) | |
| 17:57 | slef | me too |
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| 18:13 | Brooke | o/ |
| 18:15 | oleonard | Hi Brooke |
| 18:15 | Brooke | oleonard++ |
| 18:17 | sekjal | hey, Brooke |
| 18:18 | Brooke | howday |
| 18:19 | * Brooke | munches on her vestigial pulled pork sammich. |
| 18:22 | fredericd | Has anybody get Koha SIP server get working with 3.4 version? |
| 18:22 | For me, it does't work as it used to. | |
| 18:23 | sekjal | fredericd: I've had SIP working from 3.2 to current |
| 18:23 | what's the issue you're having? | |
| 18:25 | fredericd | I can't describe... Command-line scenarios works but when connecting 3M Self Check, it doesn't work. There are some timeouts... |
| 18:25 | I can't say more precisely. I will try with anothe self check | |
| 18:25 | Brooke | hmm |
| 18:25 | sekjal do you know where dpavlin's notes are? | |
| 18:26 | sekjal | notes from KohaCon? |
| 18:26 | Brooke | yeah those might help too |
| 18:26 | in case you're off line when frederic has questions | |
| 18:27 | mtj | oooh, jo on the radio in NZ |
| 18:27 | Brooke | yep |
| 18:27 | station? | |
| 18:27 | fredericd | For example, a first check out takes ages to proceed, and then a following check out fails because the response from koha sip server seems to arrive lately |
| 18:27 | and it isn't network latencies | |
| 18:27 | arrive lately for the first check out... | |
| 18:28 | mtj | http://www.radionz.co.nz/natio[…]november-2011.asx |
| 18:28 | sekjal | fredericd: what do the logs show? anything? |
| 18:29 | cait | there were some patches pushed in between |
| 18:29 | to sip | |
| 18:30 | fredericd | cait: that's what I have to look at |
| 18:30 | I have 3M and Koha logs. Koha logs seem fine and 3M logs report timeout | |
| 18:31 | cait | we have tested some of the pushed patches- hope nothing was missed |
| 18:31 | fredericd | and it seems that the self check get crazy sending 99 command |
| 18:31 | cait | we also have 2 libraries using sip server with 3.2.2 right now |
| 18:31 | my coworker is the expert here :( | |
| 18:33 | slef | random reply to the PTFS FU: OCCUPY KOHA! :) |
| 18:33 | Brooke | rofl |
| 18:34 | fredericd | Ulrich Kleiber? |
| 18:34 | I can see his patch | |
| 18:35 | cait | yes |
| 18:36 | fredericd | And there is also a Colin patch, adding autoflush... |
| 18:36 | that's all | |
| 18:36 | cait | hm |
| 18:37 | fredericd: I am looking at bugzilla | |
| 18:37 | bug 5586? | |
| 18:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5586 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , SIP line-endings should use proper SPEC-compliant \r |
| 18:37 | fredericd | bug 6620 |
| 18:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6620 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, Sip Server Output may be buffered |
| 18:38 | ibeardslee | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]r-software-patent |
| 18:38 | sigh .. legendary stuff reporting accuracy | |
| 18:38 | fredericd | cait: but you're correct, there is also a patch for your bug... |
| 18:39 | slef | mtj: have I missed jransom or is she a long way into this asx? |
| 18:41 | rangi | morning |
| 18:41 | Brooke | morena |
| 18:41 | rangi | ibeardslee: jo was just on nat radio |
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| 18:42 | rangi | which 4 days out from election, its pretty amazing |
| 18:42 | shows the public interest | |
| 18:42 | * Brooke | nods. |
| 18:43 | oleonard-away | We in the US are doing our part by having corporations evil enough to make the phrase "United States corporation" sound evil |
| 18:44 | rangi | heh |
| 18:44 | Brooke | ain't no humour like gallows humour cause gallows humour don't stop. |
| 18:45 | jcamins | Always look on the bright side of life! |
| 18:46 | * jcamins | whistles. |
| 18:46 | cait | morning rangi, hi Brooke |
| 18:46 | Brooke | howdy Cait. |
| 18:47 | * Brooke | sings with jcamins. |
| 18:47 | Brooke | "Life is full of shite, when you look at it." |
| 18:47 | cait | lol |
| 18:47 | Brooke | I think we should go off broadway, brah. |
| 18:47 | 2 geeks sing showtunes | |
| 18:47 | what's not to like? | |
| 18:47 | cait | heh |
| 18:49 | Brooke | proper link is http://www.radionz.co.nz/natio[…]demark-'koha'.asx slef |
| 18:50 | slef | poc |
| 18:50 | oic, even | |
| 18:51 | * rangi | is off to listen to a presentation on koha to a lot of 3 letter govt depts |
| 18:51 | ibeardslee | I think it is just awesome the publicity |
| 18:51 | just sad that it is because of that | |
| 18:52 | slef | Connecting to server streaming.radionz.co.nz[202.7.7.96]: 80... |
| 18:52 | read: Resource temporarily unavailable | |
| 18:52 | Failed, exiting. | |
| 18:52 | ibeardslee | AND a bonus, it is also highlighting to the general public that there is amazing stuff that comes from .nz (although Koha itself is now has people working on it globally) |
| 18:52 | Brooke | try here too |
| 18:52 | http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/m[…]mark_koha-048.mp3 | |
| 18:52 | slef | tyvm |
| 18:53 | sekjal | yes, ty Brooke |
| 18:53 | Brooke | no problem |
| 18:53 | rangi | yeah way bigger than just nz now |
| 18:53 | * Brooke | is not just another pretty face. |
| 18:54 | ibeardslee | rangi: enjoy, and it'll be interesting to see what those 3 letter departments think if the trademark issue |
| 18:56 | rangi | *nod* |
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| 19:10 | rangi | slef++ |
| 19:11 | slef | I'm doing a nice line in annoyed lately :-/ |
| 19:12 | I'm moving regions, so looking at the equivalent of the failed RISE co-op for my new region... and seeing some of the same anti-patterns in it. | |
| 19:12 | rangi | ahhh |
| 19:13 | slef | I don't really want to reboot, rinse and repeat that experience. |
| 19:13 | cait | ? |
| 19:13 | slef | Membership in one failed business support co-op is quite enough, thanks. |
| 19:13 | cait: ? | |
| 19:13 | cait | ignore me - tired |
| 19:14 | :) | |
| 19:19 | jcamins | slef: I suggest that you use a 200-page application. |
| 19:21 | slef | jcamins: sounds like a way to make a co-op fail, but what do I know? ;-) |
| 19:22 | jcamins | slef: I'm _sure_ that's how it should be done. |
| 19:22 | Brooke | maybe you should purchase another corporation, fail to find a business model, and then just pirate shite for fun and profit. |
| 19:22 | slef | Your message to Koha awaits moderator approval // Too many recipients |
| 19:22 | bleah | |
| 19:23 | jcamins | Brooke: I was thinking about doing that. |
| 19:23 | Brooke | can I be first mate? I'll even buy a parrot/ |
| 19:24 | jcamins | It depends. How are you at dealing with arrers? |
| 19:24 | Brooke | To the brig! |
| 19:26 | ibeardslee | where the chains are? |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea | walk the plank! |
| 19:26 | mtj | hmm, someone needs to correct that 'stuff' article head-line :/ |
| 19:27 | 'Small library fights US corporation over software patent' | |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea | yea it's not quite right |
| 19:27 | mtj | trademark, not patent |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea | content is correct tho |
| 19:28 | mtj | i might drop them a clue |
| 19:29 | ibeardslee | @nzstuff on twitter |
| 19:29 | huginn | ibeardslee: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 19:29 | ibeardslee | shush, wasn't talking to you |
| 19:33 | slef | can we rename it "HLT's ratbag-repelling fund"? |
| 19:33 | ;) | |
| 19:34 | Brooke | ++ |
| 19:35 | I just read that and laughed loud enough to draw an eyebrow from the little mister. | |
| 19:35 | ibeardslee | Stuff has changed the title of the article |
| 19:35 | Brooke | outstanding |
| 19:35 | Whose tubes? Our tubes! | |
| 19:36 | ibeardslee | o_0 |
| 19:37 | slef | I think Brooke is getting militent. |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/m[…]mark_koha-048.mp3 |
| 19:38 | Brooke | now, now, I'll have you know that not too many years ago, a petty dictator referred to me in a blanket statement as a professional troublemaker. |
| 19:39 | My response was "Where's my paycheck?" | |
| 19:40 | slef | ok, posted to http://www.software.coop/ front page |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | slef++ |
| 19:44 | slef | I am tempted to post "RT @tararobertson: Wow. PTFS/LibLime are a bunch of dicks: http://t.co/3UegADF0 #kohails" but probably shouldn't. :) |
| 19:47 | mtj | yep, the absolute baseline :) |
| 19:48 | rangi | bbl |
| 19:49 | oleonard | Not sure why any of that needed to be off the record? |
| 19:49 | * jcamins | neither. |
| 19:49 | wahanui | neither is running out of time and beeing a nolifer because of all the zebra problems... |
| 19:49 | jcamins | wahanui: true. |
| 19:49 | wahanui | true. is probably it possible to have automatic recurring invoices for each patron? |
| 19:49 | oleonard | jcamins: yeah, and if there's prior art you shouldn't get a patent. We all see how well that works. |
| 19:49 | slef | I just did it because I was replying to an off the record comment. |
| 19:50 | oleonard: I signed a call for a World Intellectual Wealth Organisation to replace WIPO, years ago. Some battles don't change. | |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | forget true |
| 19:50 | slef | forget true. |
| 19:50 | wahanui: forget true. | |
| 19:50 | wahanui | slef, I didn't have anything matching true |
| 19:50 | slef | heh |
| 19:50 | mtj | heh , i did it to be funny , coz i said "for the record" :p |
| 19:50 | slef | silent forgetfulness |
| 19:50 | * wizzyrea | pulled the jedi mind trick on wahanui |
| 19:51 | * Brooke | <3s Jedi Mind Tricks. |
| 19:55 | mtj | i'm looking forward to a response from PTFS about this NZ trademark stuff |
| 19:55 | francharb_away | i'm looking forward to a response from mtj about ra one |
| 19:56 | ;) | |
| 19:56 | mtj | ... i guess they are trying to work out if its a better strategy for them to reply, or to shut-up |
| 19:57 | haaay, we did see it - across from victoria station | |
| 19:57 | francharb_away | neat! |
| 19:57 | how was it? did you like it? | |
| 19:58 | mtj | so it was quite exciting seeing VT station explode in the movie!! |
| 19:58 | francharb_away | i got the soundtrack before leaving... i was less than 200 rupies |
| 19:58 | :) | |
| 19:58 | thats right! | |
| 19:58 | i forgot about that | |
| 19:59 | wooo | |
| 19:59 | you got the whole experience | |
| 19:59 | was it 3D? | |
| 19:59 | mtj | (we could have possibly been hurt in real life, given the cinema's proximity to the station) |
| 19:59 | francharb_away | heh |
| 19:59 | mtj | yep, 3D :p |
| 19:59 | francharb_away | lucky you! |
| 20:00 | mtj | the 'chummy chello' song is still sung often |
| 20:00 | oleonard | I'm not aware of PTFS responding publicly to things like this. In the past they've only used proxies |
| 20:00 | mtj | "will you be my 'chummy chello'?" |
| 20:01 | francharb_away | hey ho hey ho |
| 20:01 | chris_n | cfouts has already responded |
| 20:01 | probably their first "proxy" shot | |
| 20:01 | francharb_away | it's chammak challo by the way but who cares? ;) |
| 20:02 | * francharb | wondering what kmkale thought about it... |
| 20:03 | francharb | @later tell kmkale : so ra one? from the perspective of somebody who do understand indi... is it that bad? |
| 20:03 | huginn | francharb: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:03 | mtj | 'chummy chello' has makes more sense in kiwi |
| 20:03 | francharb | i bet! |
| 20:04 | mtj | loosely translates to 'friendy friend' :)p |
| 20:04 | francharb | have you seen the indglish version? |
| 20:04 | Brooke | Character Dheela > Chammak Challo |
| 20:05 | * Brooke | might have drunk the Sallu kool aid... |
| 20:06 | * oleonard | shakes his fist at Koha's error handling |
| 20:06 | oleonard | I must have deleted a title on a list, and now I can't open the list |
| 20:06 | jcamins | oleonard: fear not! Brooke is here to throw them into the brig! |
| 20:06 | oleonard | Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Koha.pm line 1217. |
| 20:06 | Brooke | yarrrr |
| 20:06 | jcamins | oleonard: didn't we fix that bug? |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | indexing? |
| 20:07 | wahanui | indexing is done by Zebra. |
| 20:07 | francharb | wahanui? |
| 20:07 | wahanui | yes, francharb? |
| 20:08 | francharb | :) |
| 20:08 | Brooke | wahanui is at least partially slow. |
| 20:08 | wahanui? | |
| 20:08 | wahanui | yes, Brooke? |
| 20:08 | Brooke | wahanui wahanui is at least partially slow. |
| 20:08 | wahanui | ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information... |
| 20:08 | oleonard | Not indexing I don't think.. XSLT |
| 20:08 | Brooke | wahanui wahanui is also at least partially slow. |
| 20:08 | wahanui | okay, Brooke. |
| 20:09 | * francharb | waving all of you good bye! |
| 20:09 | francharb | see ya! |
| 20:10 | jcamins | wahanui? |
| 20:10 | wahanui | yes, jcamins? |
| 20:10 | jcamins | wahanui: wahanui? |
| 20:10 | wahanui | i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow. |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | wow! I have books in my catalog that were accessioned in the year 9999! |
| 20:10 | slef | oleonard: or responded in private with things I read as threats. |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea: #FAIL | |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:10 | i k now right! | |
| 20:11 | even funnier - the earliest of the insane dates is 2012 | |
| 20:12 | oleonard | Hm, no, not XSLT, just bad error handling |
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| 20:17 | Brooke | Zoia is much cooler than Waha or Huginn. Summat must be done. |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | hrmph. |
| 20:18 | * Brooke | has bot envy summat fierce. |
| 20:18 | * wizzyrea | loves our bots |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | this is awesome, eythian++ sekjal++ http://blog.openlibrary.org/20[…]/22/kohacon-2011/ |
| 20:19 | indradg | guys did anyone speak about "approval basis" acquisition support for Koha during last KohaCon? |
| 20:19 | Brooke, ^^^ | |
| 20:19 | jcamins | indradg: how would you build on-approval ordering into an ILS? |
| 20:20 | indradg | jcamins, sounds crazy... right? but thats a way a lot of indian libraries, particularly the public libraries deal with acquisition |
| 20:21 | jcamins | indradg: no, on-approval makes perfect sense to me. |
| 20:21 | I want to know how to build it into an ILS. | |
| 20:22 | Most acquisitions in special collections are on-approval, too. | |
| 20:22 | indradg | jcamins, what happens is that publishers and sellers dump "New arrivals" the libraries picks and choose, but until they do, they need some way to track it |
| 20:22 | its a fairly standard practice at public libs | |
| 20:22 | jcamins | Yeah, but once you've added the book to your catalog, the public thinks the books will be available for use. |
| 20:23 | indradg | that has to be the trick... only available on the staff client, for approval trail |
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| 20:26 | Brooke | oops, I broke #koha again. |
| 20:26 | * Brooke | plugs teh Interweb cord back in... |
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| 20:33 | * chris_n | holds on for the ride |
| 20:45 | oleonard | What, now everyone's afraid to speak? |
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| 20:46 | oleonard | Hi Kiwi |
| 20:47 | Brooke | o/ Kiwi |
| 20:50 | maximep | bye Wiki :p |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | i guess so. |
| 21:10 | oleonard | Bye all |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | by... always too slow |
| 21:11 | Brooke | indeed |
| 21:12 | oleonard is wiley | |
| 21:12 | some other day, cap'n. | |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | I think I've only caught him once |
| 21:13 | Brooke | this sounds like excellent fodder for a sekrit bot game... |
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| 21:38 | Brooke | wb cait |
| 21:41 | mtj | ooh, Koha trademark on nat-radio NZ again, this morning... |
| 21:42 | http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/n[…]ontroversy-00.ogg | |
| 21:43 | cait | again? oh |
| 21:44 | mtj | expert was a bit waffly on this one... but still a good effort |
| 21:50 | * sekjal | listens |
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| 21:52 | * wizzyrea | listens too |
| 21:53 | cait | http://lwn.net/Articles/468838/#Comments |
| 21:54 | Brooke | I don't think he was waffly at all. |
| 21:55 | the host was certainly not neutral. ;) | |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | "Horror story!" |
| 22:05 | cait | hm? |
| 22:05 | wizzyrea | oh the radio link |
| 22:05 | right at the end she talks about how it's a horror story | |
| 22:08 | rangi | back |
| 22:10 | cait | wb :) |
| 22:10 | ibeardslee | that nine to noon programme does seem to be quite open to 'open'. gnat (Nat Torkington) has a regular session on there. |
| 22:11 | * moodaepo | shakes his head somewhat exasperated (been shaking it since yesterday of course) sheesh |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | this one has gotten quite a bit more traction than our other scuffles. |
| 22:14 | * Brooke | agrees. |
| 22:14 | Brooke | I think it's because the thievery is more flagrant than on average. |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | sekjal! |
| 22:15 | that tweet is hilarious! | |
| 22:15 | sekjal++ | |
| 22:16 | sekjal | :) |
| 22:16 | * moodaepo | already sent a message to a friend who recently started work at a LibLimeKoha institution to see if they can migrate off : ) |
| 22:17 | wizzyrea | that really made me laugh, thanks. |
| 22:17 | sekjal | glad it worked as intended. |
| 22:18 | Brooke | so it passes QA? |
| 22:19 | ibeardslee | rangi: was the trademark mentioned at the presentation? |
| 22:19 | rangi | yes |
| 22:19 | a number of times | |
| 22:19 | sekjal | rules say I can't pass my own work through QA, so I leave that to the community to determine |
| 22:19 | rangi | with disgust |
| 22:20 | ibeardslee | anyone high enough up to wander to the appropriate people and apply beatings? |
| 22:20 | * wizzyrea | passes that - definitely working as intended. |
| 22:22 | Brooke | I'll countersign ;) |
| 22:23 | ibeardslee: I'd rather not get arrested, but I am close enough to apply scorn. | |
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| 22:30 | cait | good night # koha |
| 22:31 | rangi | night cait |
| 22:31 | cait | :) |
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| 22:31 | Brooke | d'oh too slow. |
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| 22:42 | Brooke | tea! |
| 22:52 | sekjal | goodnight, #koha! I'll be back Monday (the holiday starts for me right about.... now!) |
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