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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:01 | * rangi | tries a more intensive one |
| 00:04 | rangi | a badly constructed query http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]a/svc/report?id=7 takes 29.17s |
| 00:04 | 382ms | |
| 00:04 | from cache | |
| 00:05 | that'll do :) | |
| 00:13 | rhcl_metng left #koha | |
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| 00:50 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 00:51 | * druthb | is home at last. |
| 00:54 | rangi | yay! |
| 00:54 | long long trip back eh? | |
| 00:55 | druthb | about thirty hours-ish. |
| 00:55 | rangi | thats not a huge amount of fun |
| 00:55 | druthb | nope nope nope. |
| 00:56 | one great big hop in a ginormous 777, then two hops in puddle-jumpers. | |
| 00:56 | (then an hour drive.) | |
| 00:56 | rangi | 777 is quite a nice plane, i like them a lot more than the 747 |
| 00:57 | druthb | nice ride, definitely. |
| 00:58 | rangi | i still want to fly in one of those insanely big aribuses |
| 00:58 | the 320s are ok | |
| 00:58 | but i want to try a 380 | |
| 00:58 | airnz is buying (has bought) some | |
| 01:01 | * wizzyrea | wants to try the 380's too |
| 01:01 | trea | chur bro |
| 01:01 | druthb | hi, wizzyrea n trea! |
| 01:01 | tell teh spud I said hello, too | |
| 01:01 | trea | hi druthb. glad you're home |
| 01:01 | wizzyrea | :) he's watching strawberry shortcake lol |
| 01:02 | rangi | heh |
| 01:03 | * druthb | is going to bed, right away quick. |
| 01:03 | rangi | fair enough |
| 01:03 | wizzyrea | yes, do that |
| 01:03 | druthb | g'night, friends. |
| 01:03 | be well. | |
| 01:04 | trea | night. bah. |
| 01:04 | needhelp joined #koha | |
| 01:04 | needhelp | hello |
| 01:04 | wahanui | niihau, needhelp |
| 01:04 | needhelp | hello everyboddy |
| 01:05 | as my nick says, i need help =) there is someone to give it to me? | |
| 01:05 | eythian | wahanui: help |
| 01:05 | needcake | we wont know until we hear your question |
| 01:05 | eythian | wahanui: need help |
| 01:05 | wahanui | eythian: huh? |
| 01:05 | needhelp | i am trying to migrate data from INmagic to Koha |
| 01:05 | eythian | wahanui: \i need help is <reply>Just ask. |
| 01:05 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 01:06 | eythian | wahanui: \I need help is <reply>Just ask. |
| 01:06 | wahanui | i already had it that way, eythian. |
| 01:06 | needhelp | does koha provide a way to help migration? |
| 01:07 | rangi | yep, it can import bibliographic data from MARC files, and borrowers from .csv |
| 01:07 | what it cant do, is get your data out of whatever system into those formats | |
| 01:08 | needhelp | and what about clients information? |
| 01:08 | can it be imported to koha in an easy way_? | |
| 01:08 | eythian | that's borrowers |
| 01:09 | needhelp | ohh, sorry, english is not always my best field... |
| 01:10 | so you say i can export everything from Inmagic and get it imported in koha? | |
| 01:12 | jwagner | With some work, yes. You'll need to make sure your Koha system has matching policies for your branchcodes, item types, patron categories, etc., and format your item and patron data in the way Koha expects. |
| 01:13 | See this section of the online manual: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#imp-migration | |
| 01:13 | needhelp | and what about the history? the transactions made, the reservations, etc? |
| 01:13 | eythian | it's all possible, but not quite so easy |
| 01:14 | I use scripts that poke those things directly into the database | |
| 01:14 | jwagner | Also see this for formatting item data, which Koha expects in a 952 field: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]html#itemcatguide |
| 01:14 | needhelp | ok |
| 01:15 | so you say i have to undertand the database structure of koha and insert the data right into it? | |
| 01:16 | eythian | for some things, yeah. Things that it's less common to want to import (e.g. circ history) |
| 01:16 | jwagner | yes, for anything outside bibs/items and patrons |
| 01:16 | eythian | conveniently, they're pretty much the easier things, too,. |
| 01:16 | rangi | schema? |
| 01:16 | wahanui | rumour has it schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
| 01:16 | wizzyrea | ^^ so helpful |
| 01:17 | eythian++ for a tool I use every day | |
| 01:19 | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]-hackerspace.html | |
| 01:19 | libraries with hackerspaces! | |
| 01:19 | rangi | needhelp: what version of koha are you installing 3.6.0 ? |
| 01:19 | needhelp | i have been watching the koha schema, there is a "koha" database and a "library" one.... what's the difference? |
| 01:20 | rangi | ? |
| 01:20 | http://schema.koha-community.org/ are you looking here? | |
| 01:20 | there is only a koha one | |
| 01:21 | needhelp | i am using the 3.4.3 verison |
| 01:21 | rangi | right, there should only be a koha database |
| 01:21 | i dont know where the library one came from | |
| 01:21 | wizzyrea | packages? |
| 01:21 | wahanui | package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 01:22 | rangi | but koha only uses one database (could be called anything, usually called koha) |
| 01:22 | the packages dont make an extra db, at leats not as far as i know | |
| 01:22 | needhelp | ok... i am just watching in the phpmyadmin |
| 01:23 | rangi | that might be some other database someone/something else made |
| 01:23 | needhelp | ohhh, the thing is a i havent installed koha, it is a live cd gsdl-koha |
| 01:23 | that the reason of the library database for sure. | |
| 01:24 | wizzyrea | well, my one started from the packages has a koha and a koha-lecompton |
| 01:24 | and I am pretty sure I didn't create the koha db | |
| 01:24 | myself | |
| 01:24 | needhelp | okis.... so koha is the one.. |
| 01:24 | great | |
| 01:24 | rangi | that library one will be greenstone needhelp |
| 01:24 | wizzyrea: i only have the one | |
| 01:24 | needhelp | yes |
| 01:25 | wizzyrea | well weird... wonder what black magic I did then ^.^ |
| 01:25 | rangi | well i actually have 8 |
| 01:25 | but they are all koha-something | |
| 01:26 | needhelp | let me tell those i have... |
| 01:26 | eythian | wizzyrea: the packages only create one db per instance |
| 01:27 | wizzyrea | does it create a default instance? |
| 01:27 | needhelp | i have: dbwiz-resources , koha and library |
| 01:27 | eythian | no, though the koha package _might_, it's been a while since I've looked at it. |
| 01:27 | (as opposed to koha-common) | |
| 01:27 | needhelp | that's how it comes from the live cd.. |
| 01:28 | wizzyrea | eythian: I bet I did apt-get install koha |
| 01:28 | rangi | yeah, so koha is the only one to do with koha |
| 01:28 | wizzyrea | instead of koha-common |
| 01:28 | (this was several weeks ago) | |
| 01:28 | that has to be it. | |
| 01:29 | needhelp | ok, KOHA has 130 talbes??? |
| 01:29 | man, i will lose my summer on it... | |
| 01:29 | *tables | |
| 01:31 | i will keep looking at koha features..... if i need help again (for sure i will!!!) i will come here... | |
| 01:31 | you have been all so kind!! | |
| 01:31 | thank you | |
| 01:41 | rangi | wonder how this went |
| 01:41 | http://www.kohala.nl/workshop.html | |
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| 02:14 | rangi | damn |
| 02:14 | i still cant remember who i was gonna write up | |
| 02:15 | wizzyrea | the spanish manual translators? |
| 02:15 | rangi | oh yeah |
| 02:15 | good idea! | |
| 02:19 | ill do | |
| 02:19 | http://es.koha-community.org/ | |
| 02:20 | trea | i need to delete some branches from an install - i've already confirmed they have no issues or holds. can i get a sanity check on these statements? http://pastebin.com/bpfKPMER |
| 02:21 | rangi | looking now |
| 02:22 | that should be ok, the only other plce itemnumber is sometime used | |
| 02:22 | is | |
| 02:22 | accountlines | |
| 02:22 | what i would do first | |
| 02:22 | is do | |
| 02:23 | select * from borrowers where branchcode='xxx' into outfile '/tmp/deletedborrowers'; | |
| 02:23 | then put that file somewhere safe | |
| 02:23 | do the same with the items | |
| 02:23 | then, you at least have all the data if they go | |
| 02:23 | oh crap, we didnt mean it ;) | |
| 02:23 | * rangi | is paranoid |
| 02:23 | trea | you and me both rangi |
| 02:24 | * wizzyrea | has had people do that |
| 02:24 | * rangi | too |
| 02:24 | trea | but they tell me paranoia is a virtue. along with laziness. |
| 02:24 | rangi | and being able to make great pizza |
| 02:24 | wizzyrea | and hummus |
| 02:24 | rangi | and throwing out random stupidity |
| 02:24 | wizzyrea | but you know the secret to great hummus? |
| 02:25 | rangi | garlic? |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea | skin the chickpeas! |
| 02:25 | all the garlic in the world won't get rid of the grainy texture of the chickpea hulls | |
| 02:25 | trea | ^^ |
| 02:26 | * wizzyrea | shares random food knowledge. Wanders off. |
| 02:26 | rangi | hehe |
| 02:29 | melia left #koha | |
| 02:33 | talljoy | how do you skin chickpeas? |
| 02:33 | * talljoy | thinks.... |
| 02:34 | rangi | you need small children |
| 02:34 | with their tiny hands | |
| 02:34 | and a whip | |
| 02:34 | or you probably soak them and the skins come off | |
| 02:34 | take your pick ;) | |
| 02:35 | trea | eh |
| 02:35 | heh* | |
| 02:36 | do i need to be the root db user to dump that info? i'm getting acccess denied as the koha user | |
| 02:37 | rangi | ah yeah, to write to the file system, yup |
| 02:37 | trea | k, that's what i figured |
| 02:42 | talljoy | my small children have morphed into giants overnight. |
| 02:42 | * talljoy | thinks it must be the Texas water |
| 02:42 | rangi | no peeled chickpeas for you then |
| 02:42 | talljoy | :-( |
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| 02:48 | rangi | http://cooking.stackexchange.c[…]ou-peel-chickpeas |
| 02:48 | stackexchange is great | |
| 02:49 | talljoy | good tips. next time i'm in the mood for hummus....i'll just buy some |
| 02:49 | rangi | hehe |
| 02:49 | trea | where's the fun in that? :P |
| 02:49 | talljoy | actually, this probably explains why my homemade hummus was never satisfying |
| 02:50 | i may try this. chickpeas are cheap as dirt | |
| 02:50 | rangi | speaking of hummus |
| 02:50 | i meant to tell nate i ate at abrakebabra twice last week | |
| 02:51 | trea | lucky! |
| 02:51 | i love that place | |
| 02:51 | i would eat there everyday if i could | |
| 02:51 | rangi | hehe, nate did |
| 02:51 | talljoy | never heard of it |
| 02:51 | trea | kebab shop in welly |
| 02:51 | talljoy | ah. |
| 02:52 | chur | |
| 02:52 | rangi | hehe |
| 02:52 | talljoy | :-D |
| 02:53 | trea | :D |
| 02:53 | i did get to eat some really great pho for lunch today tho | |
| 02:53 | rangi | http://thisisphotobomb.memebas[…]ving-a-nice-trip/ |
| 02:53 | talljoy | i love pho |
| 02:53 | hahahahaha | |
| 02:54 | i had a great thai green curry | |
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| 02:56 | rangi | mm green curry is good too |
| 02:56 | i think might make that for dinner | |
| 02:56 | talljoy | yum |
| 02:56 | i could eat thai morning, lunch, dinner | |
| 02:57 | trea | there's a place in town that makes a tempeh phad thai that is awesome. we have a surprising number of decent thai restaraunts for kansas. |
| 02:57 | talljoy | would of thunk it |
| 02:57 | rangi | @later tell paul_p the main developer for piwik lives in wellington now (but is french) im all for piwik, its very cool |
| 02:57 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:57 | rangi | ohhh thai |
| 02:58 | oh hey trea | |
| 02:58 | did i show you the kansas bbq one they have here? | |
| 02:58 | trea | liz did. crazy! |
| 02:58 | rangi | http://www.unclemikesbbq.co.nz/ |
| 02:58 | havent tried it yet | |
| 02:58 | its on my todo list | |
| 02:58 | trea | was my next question |
| 02:59 | you would think it would be difficult to get hickory for smoking past biosecurity | |
| 02:59 | rangi | im hoping the decor is as tacky as the website |
| 02:59 | trea | lol |
| 02:59 | hope springs eternal | |
| 03:01 | unless they grow it natively | |
| 03:01 | rangi | yeah true |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | uh, I use the canned chickpeas |
| 03:06 | and you just kinda slip the skins off | |
| 03:07 | it's like knitting, put on a show, skin some chickpeas | |
| 03:08 | rangi | :) |
| 03:08 | wizzyrea | i imagine, with the penchant for english trees, that hickory is probably grown somewhere in NZ in some fashion |
| 03:09 | rangi | i bet you are right |
| 03:13 | * jcamins_away | sends rangi some cake. |
| 03:13 | jcamins_away | Or, well, skinned chickpeas. |
| 03:13 | But it's almost like cake. | |
| 03:13 | rangi | :) |
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| 03:26 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 03:30 | Amit_Gupta joined #koha | |
| 03:30 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris |
| 03:32 | rangi | hi Oak and Amit_Gupta |
| 03:33 | Oak | :-) hello rangi |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea | hi everybody |
| 03:33 | Amit_Gupta | heya wizzyrea |
| 03:33 | wahanui | I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts |
| 03:33 | Amit_Gupta | heya Oak ;D |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 03:33 | Oak | Amit_Gupta :] good to see you |
| 03:47 | trea | heading out. night #koha |
| 03:47 | rangi | cya trea |
| 03:51 | savitra joined #koha | |
| 04:08 | rangi | search faq? |
| 04:08 | wahanui | search faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 04:16 | rangi | hi savitra |
| 04:18 | savitra | Hi Chris.. |
| 04:18 | dont hangout in the irc too often..trying to change that.. | |
| 04:18 | rangi | did you make it to kohacon in the end? |
| 04:19 | savitra | yes I did..I was there day 2 thru day 6 |
| 04:20 | rangi | excellent |
| 04:20 | it sounded like a good conference | |
| 04:21 | savitra | it was..learnt a few things..but for me and Amit it was important to meet and get to know people |
| 04:22 | rangi | *nod* |
| 04:22 | the people are always the most important bit | |
| 04:22 | savitra | we had a good chat with Robin on Open Library.. |
| 04:22 | rangi | excellent |
| 04:23 | savitra | and we have sent some improvements to your original open libray patch.. |
| 04:24 | rangi | I think slef was looking at them |
| 04:25 | savitra | yes and the openlibrary developers are here in bangalore, we can get them over to our offices at any time to collaborate.. |
| 04:25 | we were hoping to meet you at the conference, but next time I guess.. | |
| 04:27 | eythian | http://i.imgur.com/TgQsN.png |
| 04:29 | rangi | yeah I had 4 conferences in 3 weeks |
| 04:29 | couldn't fit a 5th one in unfortunately | |
| 04:30 | but maybe see you in scotland :) | |
| 04:30 | edveal | Where is Koha12, in Scotland? |
| 04:30 | rangi | very handy the developers are so close |
| 04:30 | yep | |
| 04:30 | edinburgh | |
| 04:30 | wahanui | edinburgh is for sure now |
| 04:31 | rangi | june ish |
| 04:31 | we should have firm dates in the next couple of weeks | |
| 04:31 | edveal | Ok, I have to find a way to go and bring my wife... I just started with ByWater and have a clear goal now. LOL |
| 04:31 | rangi | the organisers were just confirming a venue |
| 04:32 | heh oh hi edveal :) | |
| 04:32 | ur in the US? | |
| 04:32 | edveal | rangi, I am in Texas and met you in Plano. I know you don't remember me but I remember you. |
| 04:32 | rangi | Hehe all bad I hope :) |
| 04:32 | eythian | he was wearing tha tchicken suit? That's how you remember him? |
| 04:33 | edveal | I am good friends with Ruth (DRuth) and have been for years. |
| 04:33 | rangi | did u stay for hackfest in plano? |
| 04:34 | ahhhh | |
| 04:34 | any friend of ruth has to be worth knowing :) | |
| 04:34 | edveal | No I was not that advanced... LOL Actually my wife's best friend lives in the area so I was committed elsewhere. |
| 04:35 | talljoy | woot. another Texas Bywaterian. |
| 04:35 | rangi | ahh I feel less bad for not remembering then |
| 04:35 | :) | |
| 04:35 | edveal | :) |
| 04:36 | I was a nobody at the time. I was trying to convince my SirsiDynix library to make the move to Koha but was unsuccessful. | |
| 04:36 | talljoy | i'm tapped out for the day. l8r |
| 04:37 | rangi | ahh, so u made the move instead eh :) |
| 04:37 | cya talljoy | |
| 04:37 | edveal | Good night talljoy. |
| 04:38 | talljoy | buenos noches |
| 04:38 | edveal | For someone that grew up in San Antonio I wish I knew more spanish... LOL |
| 04:39 | rangi | :) |
| 04:39 | talljoy | si |
| 04:39 | hasta luego! | |
| 04:39 | edveal | "buenos noches" good night but what is the response? |
| 04:40 | rangi | right my bus stop, good to meet you edveal and good to see u again savitra |
| 04:40 | bbl | |
| 04:40 | edveal | And talljoy is from Fort Worth I am very embarrassed. |
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| 05:15 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:16 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:16 | cait | hi eythian |
| 05:16 | still at work? | |
| 05:16 | eythian | yeah, probably going to be a late one tonight. |
| 05:16 | cait | oh |
| 05:17 | migration? | |
| 05:17 | wahanui | i guess migration is hard or <reply>If only they were using Koha to start with... |
| 05:17 | eythian | helping out with something of an emergency |
| 05:17 | (not koha related) | |
| 05:17 | cait | oh |
| 05:17 | hope it will be ok then | |
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| 05:18 | eythian | It's mostly terrible time constraints on a project using a toolkit that I'm the only person here who's ever used it before. And that was two+ years ago. |
| 05:18 | francharb | morning #koha |
| 05:18 | eythian | that was a terrible sentence, also. |
| 05:18 | cait | I still understood it :) |
| 05:18 | morning francharb :) | |
| 05:20 | eythian | hi francharb |
| 05:23 | Amit_Gupta | heya Robin |
| 05:23 | eythian | howdy |
| 05:23 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta :) |
| 05:24 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
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| 06:24 | rangi | hmm is dpavlin_away really away? |
| 06:26 | eythian | probably, it's something like 8.30 there and he's not much of a morning person :) |
| 06:26 | rangi | :) |
| 06:51 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:51 | rangi | heya magnuse :) |
| 06:52 | cait | morning magnuse :) |
| 06:52 | magnuse | hiya rangi and cait and everyone |
| 07:21 | * mtj_goa | waves from goa |
| 07:21 | mtj_goa | morning all |
| 07:21 | * magnuse | waves back |
| 07:21 | cait | oh |
| 07:21 | mtj in goa :) | |
| 07:22 | * cait | waves too |
| 07:22 | magnuse | staying long in india, mtj_goa? |
| 07:23 | mtj_goa | heya cait :) |
| 07:23 | fly back on the 16th | |
| 07:24 | rangi | hey mtj_goa and dpavlin |
| 07:24 | alex_away | hi |
| 07:25 | dpavlin | How would you push biblio and/or item data into Koha from external digital archive? |
| 07:25 | rangi | hi alex_away |
| 07:25 | dpavlin | I'm interested into first-time import as well as potential update since master data is in archive |
| 07:25 | rangi | dpavlin: with the stage marc import? |
| 07:26 | magnuse | cait is doing something like that i think |
| 07:26 | rangi | and www::mechanize |
| 07:26 | cait | yep |
| 07:26 | we are using the scripts for staged marc import | |
| 07:26 | but my coworker wrote the program to automate it - not sure how it works exactly | |
| 07:26 | magnuse | but from a script, not from the web ui, right? |
| 07:27 | dpavlin | Something without user interaction and with some kind on non-chaning API would be perfect. |
| 07:27 | mtj_goa | and hi magnus and dobrica too |
| 07:28 | rangi | yeah, you could script it www::mechanize |
| 07:28 | or just use bulkmarcimport from the cli | |
| 07:28 | dpavlin | We are using marc bulk import from our eprints currently, but I'm going to meeting where remote side will be Java application :-( |
| 07:28 | rangi | hmm |
| 07:28 | magnuse | will the data be in marc? |
| 07:29 | dpavlin | No. But we can define fixed mapping to MARC for Koha (on Koha's side if at all possible ;-) |
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| 07:29 | rangi | morning paul_p |
| 07:29 | dpavlin | I could wrap some HTTP/JSON to MARC API, but I'm wondering does something similar allready exists. |
| 07:30 | rangi | not in koha |
| 07:30 | we have plenty of ways to get data out | |
| 07:30 | but only a couple to get it in | |
| 07:30 | bulkmarcimport.pl | |
| 07:30 | and then the staged marc import in the staff interface | |
| 07:31 | dpavlin | rangi: Yap, but users don't enter data in Koha but in digital archive. |
| 07:32 | rangi | yep |
| 07:32 | dpavlin | I'm also thinking about puting Gearman in the middle and hang Koha import worker on one side and Java worker on another |
| 07:32 | rangi | im just saying those are the 2 interfaces for putting data in |
| 07:32 | so if they dont work, youd have to construct another one | |
| 07:33 | take a look in svc/ | |
| 07:33 | there is the start of a restful api for doing that kinda thing | |
| 07:34 | dpavlin | rangi++ /svc/new_bib seems to be good start :-) |
| 07:34 | rangi | its how biblios.org was going to work with koha |
| 07:37 | cait | yes, using staged marc import from command line |
| 07:37 | what we do | |
| 07:38 | reading backnow | |
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| 07:39 | dpavlin | It seems that MarcXML or Marc-JSON over HTTP might be easiest way (and somewhat userful for others) way to do it. However, since remote side isn't done by librarians I'm reluctant to move MARC structure and mapping to remote side. |
| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:39 | cait | I think a restful api would be great |
| 07:39 | for things like ILL too | |
| 07:40 | we have been talking about it, but no time to investigate | |
| 07:40 | rangi | we svc/ mostly works |
| 07:40 | i think extending that will be of benefit to the project as a whole | |
| 07:41 | dpavlin | rangi: me too. I will try to write up RFC for it on wiki after meeting to give it a few more eyeballs before I implement something. |
| 07:42 | rangi | yay |
| 07:42 | thank you | |
| 07:43 | cait | dpavlin++ :) |
| 07:44 | bbiab | |
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| 07:57 | rangi | hi sophie_m and Bren |
| 07:57 | sophie_m | hello rangi, hi #koha |
| 07:57 | Bren | Hello |
| 07:58 | rangi | oh and i missed saying hi to reiveune |
| 07:58 | reiveune | haha, hi rangi and everybody |
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| 08:11 | * eythian | really should go home |
| 08:12 | rangi | yeah its getting pretty late |
| 08:12 | do they want you to go up north? i see norm is on his way up | |
| 08:14 | eythian | they do, but I can't because I have to go to AU on Tuesday morning |
| 08:15 | rangi | right |
| 08:15 | eythian | I've been relearning all the java stuff I used to do, now I'm going to spend half an hour working on my presentation and then go home. |
| 08:15 | rangi | cool |
| 08:17 | julian_m | hi all |
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| 08:18 | rangi | hi julian_m |
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| 08:18 | kf | morning #koha |
| 08:19 | asaurat | good morning ! |
| 08:19 | kf | hi asaurat :) |
| 08:20 | rangi | hi asaurat and kf |
| 08:21 | kf | morning rangi |
| 08:21 | asaurat | foo doo fa fa |
| 08:22 | kf | huh? |
| 08:23 | asaurat | that's how the NZ guys from "Flight of the Conchords" perceive the french language ;) |
| 08:23 | eythian | seems pretty accurate :) |
| 08:23 | asaurat | you can find a funny music video about it =) |
| 08:23 | rangi | :) |
| 08:24 | magnuse | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f11-ClTi3og |
| 08:24 | rangi | from wellington in fact |
| 08:24 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGOohBytKTU is still my fave | |
| 08:24 | asaurat | hehe, sure, business time :D :D |
| 08:25 | "the humans are dead" is pretty impressive too, with its binary solo ;) | |
| 08:25 | rangi | did they ever show the tv series there? |
| 08:26 | magnuse | Flight of the Conchords is from nz? |
| 08:26 | rangi | yes |
| 08:27 | from wellington | |
| 08:27 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gii2nenUg | |
| 08:27 | * magnuse | didn't know that |
| 08:27 | rangi | explains kiwis vs aussies :) |
| 08:28 | * kf | saves links for later when at hoem |
| 08:28 | magnuse | hehe, good one ;-) |
| 08:28 | * magnuse | is at home all the time... |
| 08:28 | asaurat | don't have any TV, but I don't think it was translated in French (hopefully), so we have to watch it online |
| 08:31 | have to disconnect for a meeting | |
| 08:31 | foo doo fa fa !! | |
| 08:32 | jacques cousteau | |
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| 08:32 | magnuse | season 1 & 2 are on their way... |
| 08:32 | rangi | heh |
| 08:32 | their shows are good | |
| 08:33 | but i still like their standup better | |
| 08:35 | magnuse | i think they visited norway a year or two ago |
| 08:36 | rangi | could well have done |
| 08:37 | brett is also in a couple of bands, one of them being the wellington ukulele orchestra :) | |
| 08:37 | magnuse | hehe |
| 08:40 | eythian | Wellington *international* ukulele orchestra :) |
| 08:41 | rangi | hehe |
| 08:41 | they are pretty good | |
| 08:41 | magnuse | ooh, big difference that |
| 08:41 | rangi | but not a patch on the ukulele orchestra of great britain |
| 08:42 | eythian | a friend of mine accidentally ended up with one of their ukuleles, after it was delivered to his house by mistake. |
| 08:42 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZjnFZvCNc |
| 08:42 | eythian | Fortunately, he was already a fan and saw when they posted on facebook that they were missing one |
| 08:42 | got a free ticket out of it I think | |
| 08:43 | * eythian | -> home |
| 08:43 | rangi | :) |
| 08:45 | kf | have anice evening eythian |
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| 08:51 | magnuse | no debian packages for 3.6.0 yet, right? |
| 08:52 | rangi | yep there are |
| 08:52 | http://debian.koha-community.o[…]pool/main/k/koha/ | |
| 08:53 | magnuse | ah, cool! |
| 08:56 | i have a swedish library (koha.sipri.org) asking when there will be packages of 3.6.0 - maybe they have to change something in /etc/apt/sources.list or thereabouts to get it? | |
| 08:57 | rangi | hmm shouldnt |
| 08:57 | unless they were running the squeeze-dev ones | |
| 08:57 | ie 3.5.x | |
| 08:57 | magnuse | their opac says Koha 3.0405000 now |
| 08:58 | if that is running off the packages, wouldn't 3.4.6 be the next logical step? | |
| 08:58 | (i'm not sure they have actually moved to the packages yet) | |
| 08:59 | rangi | 3.6.0 is the latest stable package |
| 08:59 | the problem is we now have 2 stables | |
| 08:59 | magnuse | yup |
| 08:59 | rangi | when eythian has some time |
| 08:59 | HAH | |
| 08:59 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:00 | rangi | we'll sort it out, stable oldstable and dev or something |
| 09:01 | magnuse | sounds like a plan |
| 09:02 | but they could download the 3.6.0 package from http://debian.koha-community.o[…]pool/main/k/koha/ and just install it with dpkg, if they are in a hurry, right? | |
| 09:02 | i'll tell them might want to wait for 3.6.1 anyway... | |
| 09:03 | rangi | yeah but easier to just add the source and do it properly |
| 09:03 | if they follow the instructions to install squeeze one, they will get 3.6.0 | |
| 09:03 | then will be able to upgrade to 3.6.1 easy | |
| 09:03 | if they were already using packages | |
| 09:03 | then apt-get update | |
| 09:04 | apt-get upgrade will get them 3.6.0 | |
| 09:04 | magnuse | ah ok, if you say so :-) |
| 09:04 | rangi | yeah it will |
| 09:04 | * rangi | has done it on 2 sites |
| 09:04 | magnuse | i believe you! ;-) |
| 09:04 | rangi | as long as they ahve in their sources.list |
| 09:05 | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | |
| 09:05 | if they dpkg it, it will not pull in the dependencies | |
| 09:06 | magnuse | because squeeze = stable and latest stable = 3.6.0 |
| 09:06 | rangi | yup |
| 09:06 | magnuse | ok, thanks |
| 09:06 | that reminds me of another thing i meant to ask | |
| 09:06 | i want to host my customers on the packages | |
| 09:06 | rangi | http://debian.koha-community.o[…]ry-amd64/Packages |
| 09:06 | magnuse | and i want them to be as close to the official version as possible |
| 09:07 | rangi | cool |
| 09:07 | magnuse | but sometimes i will need to apply a patch before it gets into a package |
| 09:07 | rangi | yup |
| 09:07 | what you can do is | |
| 09:07 | apply the patch | |
| 09:07 | build the package | |
| 09:08 | magnuse | is it feasible to mostly run off the official packages, but when needs arise apply a patch, build a package and run off that until the patch is in an official package? |
| 09:08 | and then go back to running off the official packages? | |
| 09:08 | rangi | name it 3.6.0-1~something |
| 09:08 | then when 3.6.1 comes along its newer | |
| 09:08 | exactly | |
| 09:08 | the easiest way to do it | |
| 09:09 | is to run a apt repository urself | |
| 09:09 | using reprepro | |
| 09:09 | http://mirrorer.alioth.debian.org/ | |
| 09:10 | magnuse | i think i tried that, but gor confused by some of the debian lingo... |
| 09:10 | rangi | right |
| 09:10 | its actually not as hard as it seems | |
| 09:10 | magnuse | ah, so i could set that up to mirror the official packages, and then sneak my custom packages in between the official ones? |
| 09:10 | rangi | exacterly |
| 09:11 | magnuse | very cool |
| 09:11 | rangi | and you clients have |
| 09:11 | deb.libriotech.no | |
| 09:11 | in their sources.list | |
| 09:11 | so you can push a new package up to your apt repo | |
| 09:12 | magnuse | yeah (but i'll be doing the hosting on my servers, mostly, i hope) |
| 09:12 | rangi | and then apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 09:12 | yourself | |
| 09:12 | magnuse | yeah, i see |
| 09:12 | i better take the time to get that repo set up! | |
| 09:12 | rangi | :) |
| 09:13 | im going to see if we can get lars to give his tutorial on debian packaging and repos at the kohacon12 dev conference :) | |
| 09:13 | it was very useful | |
| 09:13 | i learnt a lot | |
| 09:13 | magnuse | that would be awesome! |
| 09:15 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ist_for_KohaCon12 | |
| 09:16 | rangi | :) |
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| 09:16 | magnuse | kia ora hdl |
| 09:16 | hdl | hi |
| 09:16 | rangi | hi hdl |
| 09:16 | magnuse | rangi: thanks for your tips on the packages - that sorted out some things I have been wondering about! |
| 09:17 | rangi | no problem |
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| 09:24 | magnuse | o/ |
| 09:24 | druthb | hi, magnuse. |
| 09:24 | magnuse | namaste druthb |
| 09:24 | druthb | :) |
| 09:25 | rangi | hey druthb :) |
| 09:25 | druthb | hi, rangi! |
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| 09:46 | * druthb | goes back to bed for a bit. |
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| 10:25 | ropuch | Hello #koha |
| 10:27 | rangi | hi ropuch |
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| 10:34 | druthb | o/ |
| 10:34 | Amit_Gupta | heya druthb |
| 10:34 | druthb | Hi, Amit_Gupta. :) |
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| 10:45 | ropuch | Anybody knows what "gg." abreviation after publication year stands for? I saw that in some russian biblio description |
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| 10:49 | fabio_t | Hi #koha |
| 10:54 | Amit_Gupta | heya ropuch, fabio_t |
| 10:56 | fabio_t | Hi Amit_Gupta |
| 10:56 | I have a problem with the MARC framework test in Koha 3.6 packages | |
| 10:57 | the test complains about biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber being not linked to MARC | |
| 10:58 | while (if I go to the Koha-MARC links section) they are | |
| 10:59 | correctly linked. | |
| 11:00 | from the Koha-MARC links page, biblionumber is linked to 001 @ | |
| 11:01 | biblioitemnumber to 090 a | |
| 11:02 | I can't rebuild Zebra because of it (I think so) | |
| 11:02 | magnuse | @marc 090a |
| 11:02 | huginn | magnuse: unknown tag 090a |
| 11:02 | magnuse | @marc 090 |
| 11:02 | huginn | magnuse: unknown tag 090 |
| 11:02 | magnuse | hmf |
| 11:04 | fabio_t | so no record found by search |
| 11:04 | when I run koha-rebuild-zebra -f instanceName | |
| 11:05 | I got... | |
| 11:07 | a message similar to this: [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) | |
| 11:07 | (I ran the command again two minutes ago but I'm still waiting the output...) | |
| 11:09 | liw | rangi, you've got your work cut for you, getting me to give a Debian packaging tutorial... you'll need to tell me when the conference is! |
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| 11:09 | fabio_t | I tried to edit Zebra's record.abs for UNIMARC (Italy) with no results |
| 11:10 | magnuse | liw: june, in edinburgh - the specific dates have not been set yet i think |
| 11:12 | fabio_t | changing "melm 001 Local-number,Local-number:n" to "melm 001$@ Local-number,Local-number:n" |
| 11:12 | and "melm 090$9 Local-number,Local-number:n" to "melm 090$a Local-number,Local-number:n" | |
| 11:13 | magnuse | hm, are you sure 001$@ is right? |
| 11:14 | fabio_t | hi magnuse |
| 11:15 | 001$@ in Koha-MARC page or in record.abs? | |
| 11:15 | magnuse | hiya fabio_t |
| 11:15 | in record.abs | |
| 11:16 | i have never tried changing it myself, though... | |
| 11:16 | fabio_t | (yep, output it's the same in my shell: 12:09:22-10/11 zebraidx(18798) [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) |
| 11:17 | I don't know magnuse, I matched it with Koha one | |
| 11:18 | I'm wondering which is the current standard though | |
| 11:19 | magnuse | i think record.abs needs melm 001 |
| 11:20 | 001$@ is just a way of saying 001 is a controlfield that does not have subfields - it's just shorthand in the koha interface, i think | |
| 11:20 | fabio_t | somewhere i read 090$c/$d (Koha lists), somewhere 090$9 (Zebra's record.abs), elsewhere 090$a (3.6 packaged's framework) |
| 11:20 | magnuse | you are using unimarc? |
| 11:21 | fabio_t | thank you for pointing this out! |
| 11:21 | i'm going to change it and restart Zebra, let's see | |
| 11:21 | yes I do, UNIMARC installation and UNIMARC imported records | |
| 11:24 | ok | |
| 11:25 | magnuse | fingers crossed! |
| 11:25 | fabio_t | now I'm running koha-rebuild-zebra -f kohatest again |
| 11:25 | :) | |
| 11:25 | magnuse | and this time it runs? |
| 11:26 | fabio_t | uh, by the way, records work fine in other installation (Koha 3.0) |
| 11:26 | it's still running | |
| 11:27 | should it just take a few seconds? | |
| 11:27 | magnuse | depends on the number of records |
| 11:28 | fabio_t | ok, it was a quite large import |
| 11:28 | 30k records | |
| 11:30 | no way. | |
| 11:31 | I'm going to comment the 090 line | |
| 11:31 | magnuse | yeah, that could take some time, depending on the machine it's running on |
| 11:31 | shouldn't take too long, though | |
| 11:40 | fabio_t | no, still failing... |
| 11:40 | thank you magnuse | |
| 11:40 | I have to quit | |
| 11:41 | see you | |
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| 12:59 | druthb | o/ |
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| 13:20 | muddle | Hi there! I am currently facing a MySQL database corruption due to an unexpected server shutdown. It appears that the table "import_records" was corrupted and cannot be repaired. |
| 13:21 | Does the table "import_records" contain any important information or can I just truncate this table? Thank you! | |
| 13:23 | oleonard | schema? |
| 13:23 | wahanui | rumour has it schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
| 13:23 | druthb | good morning, oleonard. |
| 13:24 | oleonard | muddle: It seems to be related to the history of records you've imported into Koha using the Stage MARC record tool |
| 13:25 | jwagner | If you do truncate it, you should check first for relationships to other tables, like import_batches and the other import_* tables |
| 13:25 | oleonard | Hence the schema link |
| 13:25 | jwagner | Correct |
| 13:25 | muddle | Ah, thanks for the pointers. |
| 13:28 | oleonard | Safely home now druthb? |
| 13:29 | druthb | yes, I'm back in TN, with the Minion. |
| 13:36 | oleonard | How did your Minion survive without your relentless oppressive orders giving her life meaning? :) |
| 13:37 | druthb | She did well...has started getting up earlier, and she did some chores and things around here. I'm glad she had a place to stay while I was away, but we're ready to get back on the road, I think. |
| 13:39 | * magnus_afk | hums "on the road again"... |
| 13:39 | * druthb | grins at magnus. |
| 13:40 | magnus_afk | probably off key, though, sorry about that |
| 13:40 | druthb | s'ok. |
| 13:40 | Willie Nelson sings sharp, too. | |
| 13:40 | magnus_afk | yay |
| 13:41 | i'm like tone deaf... | |
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| 13:45 | jcamins_away | JesseM: welcome back to the US. |
| 13:45 | JesseM | thx jcamins_away |
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| 13:52 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 13:52 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 21.0°C (6:00 PM PKT on November 10, 2011). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:52 | Oak | oooh drizzle |
| 13:52 | * Oak | goes to the roof |
| 13:52 | magnus_afk | @wunder boo |
| 13:52 | huginn | magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (2:20 PM CET on November 10, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:53 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 13:53 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 13.4°C (8:51 AM EST on November 10, 2011). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:53 | Oak | magnus_afk |
| 13:53 | magnus_afk | Oak |
| 13:53 | Oak | okay really really going to the roof now |
| 13:53 | later | |
| 13:53 | magnuse | enjoy! |
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| 13:56 | druthb | @wunder columbia, tn |
| 13:56 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Spring Hill, Tennessee is 2.5°C (9:56 AM AST on November 10, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022.6 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:56 | druthb | @wunder mumbai |
| 13:56 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 30.0°C (6:40 PM IST on November 10, 2011). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:56 | druthb | no wonder I'm cold. |
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| 14:03 | Oak | yup. drizzling. dark clouds. city lights. cool breeze. bright headlights and red tail lights of cars. nice. |
| 14:04 | magnuse | ooh, poetic! |
| 14:04 | Oak | :) |
| 14:04 | * druthb | waves to Oak. |
| 14:04 | Oak | hello druthb :) |
| 14:05 | tcohen | sopac vs. vufind? |
| 14:05 | jcamins | tcohen: very different use cases, I think. |
| 14:05 | magnuse | depends a little on what you want to do, i'd say |
| 14:06 | tcohen | i need to provide researchers a central place to look for material from libraries |
| 14:08 | i've just heard about sopac2 fr the first time while reading the 3.6 manual to respond to kohalists |
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| 14:09 | jcamins | tcohen: my instinct is that you'd probably do better with vufind, but it really depends how your researchers would be using it. |
| 14:09 | tcohen | thanks jcamins |
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| 14:10 | tcohen | i think i'll have to dig a little on this topic to decide |
| 14:10 | * jcamins | tosses JesseM some duct tape. |
| 14:17 | Oak | Brooke? |
| 14:17 | wahanui | I'M TAKING THE PISS OUT OF 'EM. or a ratbag. |
| 14:19 | nengard | HA! |
| 14:21 | druthb | lol |
| 14:21 | tcohen | wahanui is crazy |
| 14:21 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
| 14:21 | wahanui | you are probably rocking the sari. |
| 14:22 | druthb | lol |
| 14:22 | tcohen | exactly |
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| 14:35 | magnuse | i forget... bugs should be reported against master or rel_3_8? |
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| 14:35 | oleonard | I thought master |
| 14:37 | magnuse | i'll try that, and then paul_p can flay me alive if it's wrong ;-) |
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| 14:49 | wizzyrea | good morning. |
| 14:49 | magnuse | kia ora wizzyrea |
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| 14:51 | trea | o/ |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | just curious question of the day: how does koha compute popularity for the popularity sort? |
| 14:51 | magnuse | \o |
| 14:52 | number of times something has been issued? just guessing... | |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | yea, idk either! |
| 14:53 | jcamins | It's supposed to be number of times something has been issued. |
| 14:53 | I don't think it actually works. | |
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | hm oki thanks |
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| 15:04 | libsysguy | seen jcamins |
| 15:04 | wahanui | jcamins was last seen on #koha 10 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying: I don't think it actually works. [Thu Nov 10 14:53:49 2011] |
| 15:04 | oleonard | Stop hiding, jcamins, no one can find you. |
| 15:04 | libsysguy | jcamins I just wanted to let you know that you were half right on the display bit from my overlaying question yesterday |
| 15:05 | i actually can never tell if jcamins is himself or away | |
| 15:05 | i guess oleonard you might be interested too | |
| 15:06 | if you want to use the z-index property you have to have the position property defined | |
| 15:11 | rhcl | whereis coffee |
| 15:12 | libsysguy | $coffee->location(); |
| 15:12 | rhcl | echo $LOCATION |
| 15:12 | libsysguy | Server Response: In Pot. |
| 15:12 | rhcl | find . -name Pot -print |
| 15:13 | jcamins | libsysguy: oh, position, not display. |
| 15:13 | Well, I was close. | |
| 15:13 | oleonard | Or in Drupal, $node->beverages['coffee']['location']['#value']; |
| 15:13 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:13 | libsysguy | true jcamins |
| 15:13 | is frustrated with drupal modules | |
| 15:13 | i am ** | |
| 15:13 | oleonard | Sorry, bad example. It's not sufficiently nested inside multiple arrays. |
| 15:14 | libsysguy | exactly |
| 15:17 | rhcl | One thing about Drupal we've decided is that you almost have to host your own installation so you have enough control to install the modules you need. |
| 15:18 | Oak | home? |
| 15:18 | wahanui | home is fine |
| 15:18 | rhcl | most off-site hosted installations somehow don't have open enough permissions to let you install all they things you need. |
| 15:20 | libsysguy | I just meant when writing my own |
| 15:20 | rhcl | oak! |
| 15:20 | Oak | rhcl! at last we meet... |
| 15:20 | libsysguy | I want a feature module for blog posts but setting it up with the database queries and the blocks is a pain |
| 15:20 | rhcl | and there's not a module for that already out there? |
| 15:21 | oleonard | And Views won't do it? |
| 15:23 | Oak | what's the link of your Drupal site? |
| 15:27 | libsysguy | lib.uttyler.edu |
| 15:27 | well the one im working on | |
| 15:27 | It is kind of custom | |
| 15:27 | * Oak | works in Joomal |
| 15:27 | Oak | crap |
| 15:28 | Joomla | |
| 15:28 | very nice libsysguy !! | |
| 15:28 | libsysguy | gracias Oak |
| 15:28 | did that over the weekend | |
| 15:30 | Oak | that clicky module under the horizontal nav. is it custom, or some module? |
| 15:30 | libsysguy | custom...thats what im trying to write into a module and give back |
| 15:31 | Oak | cool. |
| 15:31 | libsysguy | yeah...im still pretty new |
| 15:32 | druthb | libsysguy++ |
| 15:33 | Oak | libsysguy++ |
| 15:40 | libsysguy | aww thanks guys |
| 15:40 | druthb are you guys back from india | |
| 15:40 | druthb | yes |
| 15:41 | * libsysguy | plots how to harass sekjal about hourly and notices |
| 15:43 | mle | libsysguy++ |
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| 15:47 | libsysguy | just out of curiousity how to the ++'s contribute to you |
| 15:48 | or is just just like an irc thanks | |
| 15:48 | oleonard | @karma libsysguy |
| 15:48 | huginn | oleonard: Karma for "libsysguy" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13. |
| 15:48 | oleonard | @karma ie |
| 15:48 | huginn | oleonard: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 31 times for a total karma of -31. |
| 15:49 | libsysguy | thats awesome |
| 15:49 | druthb | @karma kmkale |
| 15:49 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "kmkale" has been increased 29 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 29. |
| 15:50 | libsysguy | @karma rangi |
| 15:50 | huginn | libsysguy: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 439 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 434. |
| 15:50 | druthb | kmkale++ #for a fantastic KohaCon. Great job, for a first-time conference organizer. |
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| 16:03 | libsysguy | wb koha-conners |
| 16:03 | that came out wrong | |
| 16:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:06 | libsysguy | sekjal i just pushed a newly merged branch of master/hourly |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | libsysguy++ |
| 16:08 | JesseM | kmkale++ |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | kmkale++ |
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| 16:19 | francharb | hi guys, ladies |
| 16:19 | and bye guys, ladies | |
| 16:19 | jetlag is great! i wake up early to go to work! 6am this morning... | |
| 16:19 | wooo | |
| 16:20 | but at the end of the day | |
| 16:20 | well | |
| 16:20 | i need to sleeeeep | |
| 16:20 | anyway | |
| 16:20 | kmkale++ | |
| 16:20 | anywau | |
| 16:20 | anyway | |
| 16:20 | ;) | |
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| 16:21 | sekjal | I woke up this morning with a craving for Indian food. was not expecting that |
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| 16:23 | * jcamins | always craves Indian food. ;) |
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| 16:30 | fabio_t | hi! |
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| 16:32 | wizzyrea | what would cause a reserve to have a NULL biblionumber? |
| 16:32 | oleonard | Gremlins. |
| 16:33 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/gEaTziOy |
| 16:34 | druthb | pixies! |
| 16:35 | oleonard | Specifically Kim Deal. |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 16:36 | * druthb | discovers that if you type "Bollywood" into Pandora, you get fun music that reminds me of about half the television channels in Mumbai. |
| 16:36 | wizzyrea | ha, and they can't deleted |
| 16:36 | neat. | |
| 16:38 | fabio_t | I'm still stuck in the (UNI)MARC framework test error for Koha 3.6 packages... could anyone help? |
| 16:43 | I'm getting this error: biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber not linked to MARC | |
| 16:44 | but I've checked in the page Links between Koha and MARC and they seem to be properly linked. | |
| 16:47 | I can't rebuild Zebra index too, koha-rebuild-zebra -f instanceName returns this warning: [warn] Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) | |
| 16:48 | * wizzyrea | doesn't know unimarc, sorry :( |
| 16:49 | fabio_t | I tried editing Zebra UNIMARC's record.abs but with no luck |
| 16:49 | thanks anyway wizzyrea | |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | this is marc21, does your link look similar? with the proper tags/subfields of course: http://screencast.com/t/XO0eZnPwOnN |
| 16:51 | jcamins | fabio_t: I would suggest you start over with one of the UNIMARC frameworks that comes with Koha. |
| 16:51 | oleonard | the default sql for UNIMARC says biblionumber should be linked to 001 subfield @ |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | actually do what they said |
| 16:52 | I bet you deleted the field where biblionumber is stored. | |
| 16:52 | * jcamins_away | is on his way out the door, but that's his suggestion. |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | in your framework |
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| 16:56 | fabio_t | ok thanks guys |
| 16:57 | I'm using Koha default UNIMARC framework | |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | have you deleted fields in it? |
| 16:57 | s/in/from | |
| 16:58 | fabio_t | no, I just run some koha-dump and koha-restore |
| 16:58 | beside that, no modification were made | |
| 16:59 | * beyond that | |
| 17:00 | jcamins_away | fabio_t: I'm really leaving now, but this sounds like a serious bug. Report it on bugs.koha-community.org? |
| 17:02 | fabio_t | ok. I guessed it. |
| 17:02 | I will report it. | |
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| 17:07 | fabio_t | here's my screen of Koha to MARC mapping |
| 17:07 | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-[…]schermataeek.png/ | |
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| 17:14 | fabio_t | I had some troubles with koha-restore, as I remember |
| 17:15 | I wonder if that could mess up the database | |
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| 17:19 | aarkerio | hi! is this a good way to cataloguing journal articles: |
| 17:19 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]April/023415.html | |
| 17:25 | oleonard | aarkerio: Have you tried asking about this on the Koha mailing list? |
| 17:27 | aarkerio | well, since somebody already had resolved the issue, I just wanna know some opinion about such solution |
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| 17:55 | aarkerio | in this string: 0#$7nnas$tCalifornia journal.$gVol. 24, pt. B no. 9 (Sept. 1993), p. 235-48$q24:B:9<235 |
| 17:55 | what "nnas" mean? | |
| 17:56 | cait | which field is that? |
| 17:57 | aarkerio | 773 - Host Item Entry |
| 17:57 | I saw the example here: | |
| 17:57 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd773.html | |
| 17:58 | cait | @marc 773$7 |
| 17:58 | huginn | cait: unknown tag 773$7 |
| 17:58 | cait | @marc 773 |
| 17:58 | huginn | cait: Information concerning the host item for the constituent unit described in the record (vertical relationship). In the case of host items that are serial or multi-volume in nature, information in subfields $g and $q is necessary to point to the exact location of the component part within the bibliographic item. (Repeatable) [b,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,3,6,7,8] |
| 17:58 | cait | @marc 773 7 |
| 17:58 | huginn | cait: Control subfield See the description of subfield $7 under field 760./0 - Type of main entry heading |
| 18:01 | aarkerio | in: 0#$tPacific rail news.$q279<GM5 |
| 18:02 | 0# == Display note? | |
| 18:03 | cait | not sure |
| 18:03 | aarkerio: perhaps we can discuss this another time? | |
| 18:03 | I know some things about analytics | |
| 18:03 | but just got home | |
| 18:03 | and really tired | |
| 18:04 | aarkerio | oh!! thanks for your help!! |
| 18:07 | fabio_t | I'm leaving |
| 18:07 | bye | |
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| 18:24 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 18:24 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 11, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:25 | rangi | gonna be a lovely day |
| 18:36 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:36 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.9°C (7:34 PM CET on November 10, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:38 | rangi | I win |
| 18:39 | jwagner | @wunder Bethesda, MD |
| 18:39 | huginn | jwagner: The current temperature in Somerset, Chevy Chase, Maryland is 8.1°C (1:35 PM EST on November 10, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 18:42 | cait | rangi: you always win :( |
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| 18:50 | rangi | hi edveal and ebegin |
| 18:50 | ebegin | Hey rangi! |
| 18:52 | edveal | hello |
| 18:54 | rangi | ebegin: access might be in montreal next year |
| 18:54 | i went to it this year, in vancouver | |
| 18:54 | ebegin | Nice. How was vancouver ? |
| 18:55 | rangi | very nice, and the conference is a very very good one |
| 18:55 | ebegin | did you present something ? |
| 18:55 | rangi | so i will try to make it next year |
| 18:55 | yep | |
| 18:55 | http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/schedule/#day1 at 2.30 | |
| 18:57 | cait | he was great :) |
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| 18:59 | slef | please include a summary when you edit the wiki - it makes the notification emails much more informative. |
| 18:59 | ebegin | cait, you went to access too I guess :) |
| 18:59 | cait | nope, but watched the live stream |
| 18:59 | hehe | |
| 19:04 | ebegin | rangi, what does Tatou Tatou means ? |
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| 19:05 | rangi | hmm, hard to translate |
| 19:05 | teamwork maybe? | |
| 19:06 | bg | heya rangu |
| 19:06 | rangi | |
| 19:06 | rangi | yo bg :) |
| 19:06 | how was mumbai? | |
| 19:07 | bg | it was interesting... |
| 19:07 | :D | |
| 19:07 | rangi | :) |
| 19:15 | https://twitter.com/#!/nothing[…]34571953724997632 | |
| 19:16 | magnus_afk | teehee |
| 19:18 | cait | heya magnus_afk :) |
| 19:18 | magnus_afk | guten abend cait |
| 19:21 | trea | hey is there any way to back out of a failed marc stage? ie, if the file times out before the staging can complete |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea | how many records are we talkin about? |
| 19:21 | trea | quite a few. iirc the file timed out due to it's size. |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | oh |
| 19:22 | rangi | hmm was it a timeout |
| 19:22 | or apache saying, thats too big | |
| 19:22 | cos there is a max upload size | |
| 19:22 | which is a setting in apache | |
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| 19:23 | trea | ok. good question. i don't have that info unfortunately. will have to ask them to clarify |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | It didn't show up in "manage staged" |
| 19:23 | ? | |
| 19:23 | rangi | sometimes i wish i could respond to tickets with |
| 19:24 | whatchu talkin bout willis | |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:24 | the log might say what happened | |
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| 19:30 | libsysguy_afk | or you can just see if they inserted into the database |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | well |
| 19:30 | in the staging area | |
| 19:35 | trea | yea, the file doesn't even appear in manage staged |
| 19:35 | so i don't think it got that far | |
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| 19:37 | oleonard | New version of LEK, but no download link? How strange... |
| 19:37 | One nice thing about the real Koha is you don't have to call someone to get it. | |
| 19:37 | bg | s/real// |
| 19:38 | heh s/the real// | |
| 19:38 | oleonard | True bg, though some won't acknowledge it. |
| 19:39 | bg | :) |
| 19:42 | oleonard | How do we get a press release on Breeding's site? |
| 19:43 | rangi | i think just send it to him ? |
| 19:43 | bg | hmm.. NateC |
| 19:43 | rangi | i think his rule is, he just publishes it verbatim |
| 19:43 | oleonard | We should do it for every release |
| 19:44 | rangi | oh yeah, good idea |
| 19:45 | NateC | oleonard: Just go to the bottom of the front page on LTG and click on "notify him" |
| 19:45 | then you can paste the release in the box that pops up and he will get it on the site for you | |
| 19:45 | rangi | we could do that for 3.4.6 ? |
| 19:46 | NateC | I don't see why not |
| 19:46 | It is a new release of Koha so yes | |
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| 19:47 | oleonard | any objections to me copy-and-pasting the 3.4.6 announcement and sending? |
| 19:47 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | naw, go go :) |
| 19:47 | nengard | we just need to make sure he links it to the right Koha :) |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | oh lord. |
| 19:48 | rangi | none from me |
| 19:48 | NateC | oleonard++ |
| 19:48 | nengard | wizzyrea he links all press to specific companies/products |
| 19:48 | that's why i say that | |
| 19:48 | rangi | we could ask chris_n and paul_p to do it as part of each release |
| 19:48 | yeah make it koha -- independent | |
| 19:48 | if thats an option | |
| 19:49 | or | |
| 19:49 | oleonard | There's no option in the message form |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | no i mean, oh lord, he *would* get it wrong. |
| 19:49 | rangi | koha -- your model doesnt work for open source sort it out |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:49 | cait | we could do it for 3.6 perhaps too? |
| 19:49 | rangi | yep |
| 19:49 | cait | gna |
| 19:49 | scrolling broken again | |
| 19:50 | chris_n | +1 from me |
| 19:50 | oleonard | Sent |
| 19:50 | magnuse | yay |
| 19:52 | oleonard | All those contributors' names are a huge win over any LEK press release |
| 19:53 | cait | :) |
| 19:53 | so right | |
| 19:55 | bg | totally true oleonard |
| 20:02 | rangi | its up |
| 20:02 | who knew | |
| 20:03 | oleonard | And well-enough sourced as "koha-community.org" |
| 20:03 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ty.org&sort=chron |
| 20:03 | yup | |
| 20:03 | apparently we did do 3.4.0 | |
| 20:03 | oleonard | Shame none of the hyperlinks work |
| 20:04 | rangi | we should do 3.6.0 too eh? |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | nod |
| 20:04 | rangi | by we i mean someone not me |
| 20:04 | cos im lazy | |
| 20:04 | ;) | |
| 20:04 | slef | @quote add <oleonard> One nice thing about the real Koha is you don't have to call someone to get it. |
| 20:04 | huginn | slef: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 20:04 | slef | huginn: get bent |
| 20:04 | huginn | slef: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". |
| 20:05 | slef | we should take it in turns to paste mbreeding release announcements, to demonstrate the brokenness of his model |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | @quote add <oleonard> One nice thing about the real Koha is you don't have to call someone to get it. |
| 20:05 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #163 added. |
| 20:06 | slef | Anyone got strong feelings about if I try using a crowdsourcing platform to collect kohacon12 sponsorships? |
| 20:06 | rangi | i do |
| 20:07 | i think its a great idea | |
| 20:07 | magnuse | slef++ |
| 20:07 | slef | Any recommendations? |
| 20:08 | kickstarter and indiegogo seem to be the two most talked-about, but I've not started reviewing any yet (we're finalising venues first) | |
| 20:08 | rangi | i know that bengard has used kickstarter successfully in the past |
| 20:08 | thats right eh nengard ? | |
| 20:08 | cait | slef++ |
| 20:08 | :) | |
| 20:09 | druthb left #koha | |
| 20:09 | nengard | yes |
| 20:09 | bengard likes kickstarter and uses it for his games | |
| 20:10 | but it uses amazon payments so you have to give amazon you account info | |
| 20:10 | slef | oh poo |
| 20:10 | nengard | not sure how you feel about that |
| 20:10 | slef | it's also US residents only |
| 20:10 | nengard | figured you'd say that |
| 20:10 | oh | |
| 20:10 | well that won't work | |
| 20:10 | slef | nah, we fail before we get to that |
| 20:10 | :) | |
| 20:10 | oleonard | Submitting the 3.6 announcement if no one else has beat me to it |
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| 20:10 | wizzyrea | gogo gadget oleonard |
| 20:10 | nengard | slef do we have dates yet? |
| 20:11 | need to get it on the calendar | |
| 20:11 | rangi | ive never heard of indiegogo |
| 20:11 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 20:11 | yeah dates! :) at the moment I blocked june totally | |
| 20:11 | just to make sure :) | |
| 20:11 | nengard | heh |
| 20:12 | i can't do that - i have to train libraries in june | |
| 20:12 | slef | nengard: nearly, sorry! I'm pretty sure it'll be somewhere in the window 1-12 June. |
| 20:12 | nengard | got to put them around kohacon |
| 20:12 | k | |
| 20:12 | that's better than then entire month :) | |
| 20:12 | magnuse | https://twitter.com/#!/mbreedi[…]34723763253149696 |
| 20:12 | slef | Yeah, I just narrowed it because I feel bad about cait blocking the whole month. |
| 20:13 | We 99% won't clash with ALA | |
| 20:13 | nengard | woo hoo! |
| 20:13 | slef | which I think is 22-end June? |
| 20:13 | nengard | oleonard++ |
| 20:13 | rangi | woot |
| 20:13 | slef | HASHBANGS MUST DIE! :) |
| 20:13 | oleonard | It's like an automatic tweet machine |
| 20:13 | nengard | hashbangs? |
| 20:13 | slef | #! |
| 20:13 | nengard | oh! in the URL |
| 20:13 | okay | |
| 20:13 | didn't know what we were talking about | |
| 20:13 | chris_n | so much for formatting |
| 20:14 | slef | it's URL breakage by javascript |
| 20:15 | indiegogo looks possible | |
| 20:15 | cait | hm |
| 20:15 | slef | I mean, we could just use the co-op's current card and bank transfer processing, which would be cheaper, but lacks transparency. |
| 20:15 | cait | perhaps we should do a feature write up sometime |
| 20:15 | like the nice release notes nicole did | |
| 20:15 | nengard++ :) | |
| 20:16 | going to do something like that for our libraries too | |
| 20:16 | slef | I also quite like the idea of pulling in new contributors |
| 20:18 | cait | nengard: around? |
| 20:18 | I have a suggestion omnibus bug | |
| 20:18 | you might want to look at | |
| 20:18 | suggestion mailing is very broken :( | |
| 20:18 | nengard | bleh |
| 20:18 | slef | Oh, the other questions are: would people like to group-book accommodation in exchange for a discount? And would anyone be interested in a road trip maybe London-Birmingham-Manchester-The Lake District-Edinburgh if I could pull it together? |
| 20:18 | nengard | i did see a bunch of the suggestion email bugs |
| 20:18 | but didn't see the one i reported | |
| 20:18 | what's the number on that? | |
| 20:20 | slef we have friends down near manchester :) | |
| 20:20 | would love to go there - plan on doing it anyway | |
| 20:20 | magnuse | slef: discount++ but on the other hand i was very happy with staying at a b&b in wellington - that might be less feasible in edinburg, maybe, though? roadtrip++ |
| 20:20 | cait | bug 4211 |
| 20:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4211 major, P1 - high, ---, chris, NEW , Acquisitions actions on suggestions don't generate email |
| 20:20 | slef | Where would people fly into, do you know? |
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| 20:20 | oleonard | slef: Yes and yes |
| 20:20 | cait | bug 7212 |
| 20:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7212 major, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, title not populating in suggestion accepted email (ACCEPTED) |
| 20:20 | oleonard | slef: Where would you recommend? |
| 20:21 | cait | hm |
| 20:21 | resolved?? | |
| 20:21 | ah | |
| 20:21 | duplicate | |
| 20:21 | ... | |
| 20:21 | now I confused myself | |
| 20:21 | nengard | heh |
| 20:21 | cait | bug 7093 |
| 20:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7093 critical, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Placeholders for suggestion table in suggestion related mails broken |
| 20:21 | nengard | bingo |
| 20:21 | slef | oleonard: In distance, EDI > Glasgow > Manchester > BHX > LUT > LHR > STN > LGW |
| 20:22 | cait | roadtrip++ |
| 20:22 | slef | oleonard: I'd fly into wherever is direct and then travel by land, personally. |
| 20:22 | * magnuse | could fly to london, but there also cheap flights from oslo to edinburgh |
| 20:22 | nengard | trains are easy peasy |
| 20:23 | US to UK in June is never cheap | |
| 20:23 | but I'll look for the best deal | |
| 20:23 | * magnuse | did 2 weeks of interrail in scotland in '92 |
| 20:23 | cait | think it should be ok from here |
| 20:23 | my flight to london was cheap... only delayed! | |
| 20:23 | * nengard | did rail all over the UK for a year in college |
| 20:23 | cait | did a road trip some years ago with friends? |
| 20:23 | nengard | actually i think bengard's parents drove us to ediburgh when they visited |
| 20:24 | cait | slef: not sore about group booking |
| 20:24 | sure | |
| 20:24 | ... | |
| 20:24 | can't type | |
| 20:24 | slef | just remember, if you book train tickets, I think you need to pick "print at the station" or whatever it is, because most of them won't post overseas. I prefer http://www.redspottedhanky.com/ and http://www.southernrailway.com/ - the second has a "Rainy Day Guarantee" where they will refund you if you can't make it, as long as you haven't printed the tickets. |
| 20:25 | * magnuse | is so looking forward to kohacon12 |
| 20:26 | slef | oh and we have three types of ticket: Anytime which is the basic but most expensive, Off-Peak which can be used any time except commuter trains and Advance which must be prebooked to particular trains but is lots cheaper. |
| 20:27 | and some birmingham-edinburgh trains are like £3.50 on http://www.megabus.com/uk/ | |
| 20:27 | I'll wiki this eventually :) | |
| 20:27 | magnuse | slef++ |
| 20:27 | rangi | catalyst-eu is in brighton |
| 20:28 | so ill be doing a side trip there at some point | |
| 20:28 | cait | slef++ :) |
| 20:28 | rangi | but ill probably fly into heathrow |
| 20:28 | cait | but perhaps repeat some of that... when the dates are set |
| 20:28 | rangi | wlg->akl->singapore->heathrow |
| 20:28 | if i can | |
| 20:28 | cait | be careful... |
| 20:28 | they like loosing suitcases | |
| 20:28 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:29 | nengard | yikes |
| 20:29 | * magnuse | did akl->singapore->heathrow a year ago, i think - no problems |
| 20:29 | rangi | :) |
| 20:29 | its a nice way to do it | |
| 20:29 | singapore has a great airport | |
| 20:30 | i figure there must be trains from heathrow to edinburgh | |
| 20:30 | magnuse | only problem was the last two hours into london were terribly long :-) |
| 20:30 | * oleonard | is getting a little too bouncy thinking about this stuff, better tune out |
| 20:31 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:31 | slef | rangi: http://traintimes.org.uk/heathrow/brighton/13:00 says it's about 2h |
| 20:31 | nengard | ewr to manchester looks cheapest for me |
| 20:32 | slef | rangi: and: "trains from heathrow to edinburgh" heh. No. Not yet. 2020 maybe. |
| 20:32 | rangi | yay |
| 20:32 | slef | rangi: train or tube from heathrow to London, then train to edinburgh. |
| 20:32 | rangi | seems |
| 20:32 | yeah | |
| 20:33 | to euston | |
| 20:33 | slef | only place that has trains from Heathrow is London Paddington (the station for the West) |
| 20:33 | rangi | then to carstairs |
| 20:33 | slef | Trains to Edinburgh go from King's Cross |
| 20:33 | (the station for the North-East) | |
| 20:33 | rangi | yep |
| 20:33 | you can do it that way too | |
| 20:33 | http://traintimes.org.uk/heath[…]burgh/20:45/today | |
| 20:33 | handy site | |
| 20:34 | slef | rangi: oh, the sleeper runs from Euston |
| 20:34 | rangi | ohhh |
| 20:34 | that would work | |
| 20:34 | slef | 05:46 – 11:25 is the first "normal" routed train |
| 20:35 | traintimes is a handy fan site | |
| 20:35 | rangi | yeah |
| 20:35 | slef | it's what the train companies *should* have made |
| 20:35 | rangi | *nod* |
| 20:35 | slef | http://traintimes.org.uk/live/edi |
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| 20:36 | * magnuse | can't wait to meet y'all again! |
| 20:36 | slef | http://traintimes.org.uk/map/?edb |
| 20:37 | * cait | bounces |
| 20:37 | cait | can we make it tomorrow? |
| 20:37 | not june? | |
| 20:37 | although june is still a lot better than next november! | |
| 20:38 | rhcl | hey slef, I hear you have salmon fishing in Scotland |
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| 20:39 | slef | rhcl: I'm English ;-) but I hear they do too |
| 20:39 | ok anyone wanting a sneak preview of the venue, please /join #kohacon | |
| 20:39 | rhcl | OK, Great Britain then? |
| 20:40 | slef | rhcl: I saw your earlier comments. I don't know anything about it, but I think mle may look into it once we've got the venue straightened. |
| 20:40 | rhcl | 'k. TNX |
| 20:40 | * chris_n | notes a potential sponsor for koha-mobile |
| 20:49 | slef | anyone know how many people have been at each hackfest? |
| 20:52 | mle: hello there! | |
| 20:52 | mle | : ) |
| 20:53 | slef | until my nick-complete kicked in... |
| 20:54 | cait | slef: I think you could count form the photos for nz |
| 20:54 | from nz... | |
| 20:54 | hard to tell probably how many will be interested | |
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| 21:04 | jcamins_away | Ooh, do we know the dates for KohaCon 2012? |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | jcamins_away: shh |
| 21:04 | sometime in june. | |
| 21:05 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: people are booking train tickets without knowing dates? |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | no, people are exploring possibilities without knowing dates. ;) |
| 21:06 | cait | people get very excited |
| 21:06 | :) | |
| 21:06 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
| 21:07 | cait | I am one of those |
| 21:07 | all excited, can't wait :) | |
| 21:07 | jcamins_away: planning to go? | |
| 21:08 | jcamins_away | cait: if I can. |
| 21:08 | cait | oh, I hope you can! |
| 21:08 | jcamins_away | Me too! |
| 21:09 | cait | :) |
| 21:09 | and bring cookies? | |
| 21:09 | hehe | |
| 21:09 | * oleonard | wonders if he can hire Supernanny to take care of the kids |
| 21:11 | jcamins_away | cait: could be. :) |
| 21:12 | * wizzyrea | wonders if she could hitch on to that train |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | i bet it would blow spud's mind to know there's a smaller kid with the same name as his dad ^.^ |
| 21:12 | well, a kid more his size, if not slightly older :P | |
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| 21:22 | ebegin | Is there any direct download link for .po files ? |
| 21:22 | On pootle, there is a Download link but it points to http://translate.koha-communit[…]6000.po/download/ | |
| 21:23 | Clicking on it shows the file (location: http://translate.koha-communit[…]rog-v-3006000.po) | |
| 21:24 | cait | I use thoselinks for download |
| 21:24 | with wget... most of the time | |
| 21:24 | the link is a bit confusing | |
| 21:25 | if oyu do from the browser saving the page will work | |
| 21:25 | and i think you can download a zip file | |
| 21:25 | eythian | hi |
| 21:26 | ebegin | Yeah, but I would like to wget the file too, but I have to click the Download link to get the URL. Why the Download link doesn't point to the file directly ? |
| 21:26 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 21:26 | ebegin | hi eythian |
| 21:26 | cait | ebegin: no idea |
| 21:26 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5604] additional icons for the Seshat set <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5604> |
| 21:26 | cait | ebegin: I wrote a little bash script to remember the urls for me and download the files |
| 21:26 | because I found it so annoying :) | |
| 21:26 | eythian | install the 'cliget' addon to firefox |
| 21:26 | it gives you a wget command for downloads | |
| 21:27 | maximep | pretty sure wget will follow the redirect |
| 21:28 | ebegin | maximep, wget the download link works, but it saves it as index.html... :( |
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| 21:32 | cait | ebegin: but you can wget the link you posted earlier |
| 21:32 | to the po file | |
| 21:32 | that work | |
| 21:32 | s | |
| 21:33 | and the links don't change often - only every major release | |
| 21:33 | ebegin | cait, yes, that's what i'm doing. I just wanted to save some clicks |
| 21:38 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5150] Issuing should read Circulation <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5150> |
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| 21:46 | Schuster | Friendly afternoon pesk back... Any problems in jumping from 3.2 Koha-community to 3.6 or do I need to do the 3.4 in between? |
| 21:47 | bg | shouldn't be too bad - but you will need to run the remove_items_from_biblios script |
| 21:47 | and reindex | |
| 21:47 | if IRC the script needed | |
| 21:47 | Schuster | Yep I can see that in the notes etc.. Just wondering thanks. |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | I think you mean version 3.2 to 3.6. There is no such thing as koha-community |
| 21:48 | there is only koha | |
| 21:48 | Schuster | I actually have done this on a test server that I have and trying to figure out if there is something that I missed. sorry yes Koha. |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | we don't recognize LLILS as even the same thing ;) |
| 21:56 | Schuster | Thanks again for another day! |
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| 22:06 | aarkerio | hi! Can I import MARCXML records in "Staged MARC Records"? |
| 22:17 | wizzyrea | are there preferences beside "opac mysummary html" and opacnav that allow you to put html in the user account area? |
| 22:17 | I suppose I could do this with jquery. | |
| 22:17 | * wizzyrea | will probably go that route |
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| 22:45 | rangi | yeah jquery might be easiest |
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| 23:19 | bg | heya BobB |
| 23:19 | man I'm getting this error in one of my frameworks - The biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber fields be mapped to a MARC subfield, | |
| 23:20 | both of those should only be mapped to the 999c and the 999d correct? | |
| 23:20 | BobB | That's right, bg |
| 23:20 | rangi | yeah |
| 23:21 | heya BobB, enjoy the conference? | |
| 23:21 | BobB | Hi Chris, I enjoyed it hugely. |
| 23:21 | I'm having withdrawals. | |
| 23:21 | rangi | excellent |
| 23:21 | well june isnt far away :) | |
| 23:22 | BobB | Were your conferences good too? |
| 23:22 | rangi | yeah access and kiwicon were fun, lianza was productive |
| 23:22 | bg | well shoot - it's still saying that and I've got those two mapped in my framework |
| 23:23 | BobB | I need to get firm dates for Edinburgh. Will have to press slef for that, I guess. |
| 23:24 | bg | Oh really weird… looking in the mysql database I see two entries for 999 c and 999 d |
| 23:24 | rangi | its 1-12 june |
| 23:24 | so firmer | |
| 23:24 | :) | |
| 23:24 | but not quite firm yet | |
| 23:25 | BobB | Its that right? 1-12 June is confirmed? |
| 23:25 | bg | the second entry has got NULL in the tab, authorised_value etc... |
| 23:26 | BobB | That's great news. We can travel in late May and save a motza. |
| 23:26 | * ibeardslee | ponders on a presentation |
| 23:26 | rangi | bg: hmm that doesnt sound right |
| 23:27 | 9:12 < slef> nengard: nearly, sorry! I'm pretty sure it'll be somewhere in the window 1-12 June. | |
| 23:27 | bg | yeah that's really weird |
| 23:27 | oh well I'll nuke those second entries from the database and let's see what happens | |
| 23:27 | rangi | BobB: ALA is 22nd june, making sure not to clash with that |
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| 23:28 | bg | yup rangi now it passes tests |
| 23:28 | BobB | bg - maybe just delete them? Nuking sounds a bit severe. :) |
| 23:29 | bg | heh - ok how about removed that crap |
| 23:29 | BobB | Cool! |
| 23:29 | rangi | :) |
| 23:30 | libsysguy | @Off-topic ok so I need some protips...what can I do with this page: http://lib.uttyler.edu/circulation and those similar to make them look better other than resetting the padding for ul's |
| 23:30 | huginn | libsysguy: I suck |
| 23:30 | libsysguy | libsysguy |
| 23:30 | wahanui | i think libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 23:31 | rangi | hmm |
| 23:32 | libsysguy | I was also thinking maybe some alternate link colors |
| 23:32 | rangi | im hopeless at those kinda things |
| 23:32 | bg | libsysguy: can you send me your address again.. and do you want hot curry or just normal curry powder |
| 23:32 | email to brendanbywatersolutions.com |
|
| 23:33 | libsysguy | bg - either is fine but i prefer hot :) |
| 23:33 | bg | ok you got it - hot curry it is |
| 23:34 | it's really red looking so I'm sure it's hot | |
| 23:34 | libsysguy | excellent |
| 23:34 | bg | went to a pretty crazy market to get it… |
| 23:34 | libsysguy | oh? |
| 23:34 | so i should be leery? | |
| 23:35 | bg | also went to another market close by - a fish market… that one was gross - I acutally threw up in the middle of the street from the smell |
| 23:35 | had a bunch of indians staring at me | |
| 23:35 | no libsysguy - you should be all good | |
| 23:35 | it will be hot though - it looks like a lot of cayene pepper in it | |
| 23:35 | libsysguy | haha wow...note to self...stay away from fish markets |
| 23:35 | *in india* | |
| 23:37 | thanks again bg for picking that up for me | |
| 23:37 | bg | sure thing |
| 23:37 | libsysguy | and giving up your lunch :p |
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