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01:34 | eythian | @later tell jransom this is what your computer is doing now you've reinstalled: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm7oor |
01:34 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
01:42 | wizzyrea | that video is funny |
02:17 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7198] overdue report does not display patron name if firstname and/or surname are null <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7198> |
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02:31 | buster | Hi. |
02:41 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2830] Hold not removed when "trapped" item on hold shelf is checked out to a different patron in the holds queue <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2830> |
02:45 | eythian | 💩 |
03:04 | wizzyrea | is brooke currently travelling? |
03:05 | eythian | I wouldn't be surprised to find so. |
03:06 | (but I don't know for sure) | |
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03:17 | Doug55 | question to anyone out there... will koha run on SLES10 or SLES11 or must it be debian |
03:18 | eythian | It'll run, it just may be a bit more work to get it going than on Debian. |
03:18 | I'm sure someone has done it on SLES/OpenSuse though. | |
03:22 | Doug55 | thanks - we are looking at bywater as a conversion/support company.. any good or bad on them ?? |
03:23 | eythian | I'd say good, but I'm sure they're listening :) |
03:23 | wizzyrea | we've had pretty good luck with them |
03:23 | Doug55 | we would be coming from a follett circ/catalog plus system with union catalog |
03:23 | wizzyrea | follet is well known and probably a pretty easy migration |
03:24 | Doug55 | I assume koha has the ability to run a union type search where a user can search his/her school catalog as well as the district wide catalog |
03:25 | wizzyrea | really all depends on how you set it up, but yes |
03:26 | Doug55 | thanks |
03:28 | anyone had any issues running it under vmware ? | |
03:28 | eythian | no, it works fine so long as your disk IO is enough |
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03:29 | kmkale | Namaskaar #koha |
03:29 | eythian | (and "enough" isn't particularly large, just don't let it get starved) |
03:29 | kmkale: hola! | |
03:29 | kmkale | Namaste eythian |
03:29 | eythian: reached safely? | |
03:29 | Doug55 | we have 10 schools - total bibs 160,000 any suggestions on memory and HD space to allocate ? |
03:29 | eythian | yep, still feeling a bit lagged, but not too bad. |
03:30 | Doug55: hmm, I'd say 20GB min, but the more the merrier. | |
03:30 | kmkale | cool. |
03:30 | eythian | and @GB+ of RAM |
03:30 | 2GB.. | |
03:30 | kmkale: did you get to take a day or so off to recover? | |
03:31 | kmkale | eythian: nope. tons of work pending :( mucho tired but cant help it |
03:31 | eythian | ah well, I guess if stuff needs to be done... |
03:32 | Doug55 | I was thinking 100GB HD and 4 GB RAM so it appears that should be sufficient |
03:34 | thanks to both of you for all your time | |
03:35 | eythian | no worries |
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04:21 | Judit | hi |
04:22 | in the staff client, if you want to print the result of a search, the print review is very distorted | |
04:23 | i have searched bugzilla, but no luck ( it doesnt mean it is not there) | |
04:23 | http://intranet.bywatersolutio[…]e/search.pl?q=the | |
04:24 | the opac search print review has no problem | |
04:28 | eythian | Judit: we can't see that url because it needs a login |
04:28 | Judit | bywater |
04:28 | bywater | |
04:28 | :) | |
04:30 | eythian | that is pretty distorted, yes |
04:30 | I'm not sure how that can be resolved (short of making a print version of the screen), but I'm not a browser expert. | |
04:31 | Judit | what shall i do |
04:31 | bugzilla? live with it? | |
04:31 | or | |
04:31 | eythian | up to you. |
04:32 | I'd stick it in bz | |
04:32 | Judit | okay |
04:32 | and on the http://koha-community.org/demo/ | |
04:32 | the staff login for Equinox Software, Inc. (USA) is not working | |
04:33 | but that is not bugzilla:) | |
04:33 | eythian | @later tell gmcharlt apparently the staff login for Equinox Software, Inc. (USA) is not working on http://koha-community.org/demo/ |
04:33 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
04:33 | eythian | sorted :) |
04:33 | Judit | :) |
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04:37 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris |
04:38 | eythian | Hi Amit! |
05:15 | Amit_Gupta | heya Robin |
05:16 | eythina: R u in NZ | |
05:16 | eythian | yeah, got back yesterday afternoon |
05:17 | Amit_Gupta | ok |
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06:39 | cait | morning #koha |
06:44 | rangi | heya cait |
06:44 | cait | evening rangi |
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07:15 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6843] Renew membership from expiry date not from current date <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6843> |
07:16 | cait | morning magnuse :) |
07:17 | magnuse | hiya cait and #koha |
07:17 | kmkale | Namaste cait, magnuse & rangi |
07:17 | magnuse | namaskar kmkale |
07:18 | cait | hi kmkale :) |
07:19 | rangi | hi kmkale |
07:21 | kmkale | bug 6843 ^^ needs signoff ;) |
07:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6843 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Renew membership from expiry date not from current date |
07:23 | alex_a | helloooo |
07:23 | cait | hi alex_a |
07:23 | :) | |
07:31 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
07:31 | kmkale | cait: can I interest you in signing off this simple patch for 6843? |
07:32 | cait | it sure sounds like a nice feature |
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07:32 | cait | not sure when I will find time for it though |
07:32 | but will try, pehraps someone else will be faster | |
07:35 | kmkale | :) |
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07:37 | reiveune | hello |
07:37 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7201] Hold to pull sreport needs extra fields <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7201> |
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07:53 | eythian_mobile | I'm working on a talk about Koha. This is the synopsis: http://ubuntuone.com/2DT93nTTCJOnI21t0E140V and this is the outline I have so far: http://ubuntuone.com/4vyDpqXrp2jgaMfLYyUUuG |
07:53 | Any suggestions for more things I can include in there, or expand upon more | |
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07:53 | eythian_mobile | or really cool examples of some of these things |
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07:55 | francharb | Morning #koha! |
07:55 | eythian_mobile | hi there |
07:56 | francharb | hi eythian, how was you flight back? |
07:57 | rangi | eythian_mobile: http://stats.workbuffer.org/ac[…]tml/slide012.html |
07:57 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ac[…]tml/slide013.html | |
07:57 | magnuse | eythian_mobile: looks interesting. just make sure it's clear that koha doesn't charge NZ$18,000 for MARC export... |
07:57 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ac[…]tml/slide014.html |
07:57 | those ones are kinda fun to talk about | |
07:57 | magnuse | Patches from monks - yay! |
07:58 | eythian_mobile | cool ta |
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07:59 | eythian_mobile | magnuse: yeah, that's a reference so I remember to put those things in the final thing :) |
08:00 | magnuse | someone in nz charges that for marc export? |
08:00 | eythian_mobile | apparently, yeah |
08:01 | rangi | that was 6 years ago too |
08:01 | it was to enable a feature | |
08:01 | antifeatures .. gotta love them | |
08:01 | magnuse | well it's gotta be good when it's so expensive, as opposed to koha which is free and hence can not be any good! |
08:01 | rangi | this was just turning on the marc export option |
08:02 | totally licensing cost | |
08:02 | magnuse | the mind boggles |
08:02 | rangi | not an nz company either |
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08:09 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
08:09 | eythian_mobile | hi there paul_p |
08:09 | paul_p | hello magnuse & eythian_mobile & all. I'm back home ! |
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08:10 | paul_p | safe travel, everything as expected, very long night (8:30 PM => 7AM !) |
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08:11 | eythian_mobile | yeah, mine was a bit like that. Noon India time to about 4pm the next day NZ time. |
08:11 | asaurat | hi |
08:14 | kmkale | hi paul_p reached safely? |
08:15 | paul_p | hi kmkale! yes, everything OK. I had a very very long night last night (8PM=> 7AM !!!), after the small-in-not-null night in the plane. |
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08:15 | paul_p | eythian_mobile: so you're back now ? |
08:15 | kmkale | :) so back to work paul_p? |
08:15 | paul_p | yep |
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08:15 | eythian_mobile | paul_p: yeah, back at work today |
08:16 | kmkale | hi julian_m :) |
08:16 | julian_m | hi kmkale ;) |
08:16 | eythian_mobile | hiya julian_m |
08:16 | julian_m | hello eythian, hello #koha |
08:16 | paul_p | just for the record : our driver from hotel to airport was *crazy* it took 30mn to do the trip ! 100km/h sometimes !!! I think i've been much less frightened in a rickshaw ! |
08:17 | eythian_mobile | heh |
08:17 | kmkale | OMG!! paul_p thats a new record!!! |
08:17 | eythian_mobile | I think it took me about 45 minutes, and the traffic wasn't too bad. |
08:18 | kmkale | heh it takes me 30 mins to get from office in thane to home in thane :) |
08:18 | eythian_mobile | that may say more about you, perhaps ;) |
08:19 | kmkale | you saw the traffic |
08:19 | eythian_mobile | yes, true |
08:19 | On the last evening, we even saw a bad driver. I didn't think that could happen there :) | |
08:20 | kmkale | :)) |
08:28 | francharb | 0/ kmkale |
08:28 | ;) | |
08:29 | kmkale | heya francharb :) |
08:31 | francharb | by the way kmkale, we saw RaOne with joann, brooke and suzanne and it wasn't that bad! ;^) |
08:32 | kmkale | heh. How was the song and dance? |
08:33 | francharb | great! |
08:34 | i also bought the soundtrack! héhé! ;^) | |
08:38 | kmkale | Chammak Challo i believe ;) |
08:38 | francharb | yep! |
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08:39 | * kmkale | makes a note of booking tickets for his son |
08:39 | francharb | kmkale++ |
08:39 | ;) | |
08:39 | kmkale | @karma kmkale |
08:39 | huginn | kmkale: Karma for "kmkale" has been increased 29 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 29. |
08:39 | kmkale | wow!! |
08:40 | kmkale? | |
08:40 | wahanui | kmkale may be psychic. |
08:40 | kmkale | heh |
08:44 | wonder how Joann and Brooke are doing in Delhi | |
08:49 | Amit_Gupta | heya francharb |
08:49 | wahanui | francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. |
08:49 | francharb | heh |
08:49 | hi Amit_Gupta | |
08:49 | Amit_Gupta | heya paul_p |
08:49 | paul_p around? | |
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08:57 | paul_p | Amit_Gupta: yes, but not really available (meeting) |
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10:30 | Amit_Gupta | heya anandology |
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11:08 | clrh | hello all |
11:09 | magnuse | bonjour clrh |
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12:30 | druthb | o/ |
12:32 | kmkale | heya druthb back home? |
12:33 | druthb | no. We just landed in Newark a couple of hours ago. JesseM's parents picked him up, sekjal is on the train headed for Massachusetts, and bg and I are in separate terminals for flights later in the day. |
12:34 | kmkale | druthb: airport, flight etc all went well? |
12:34 | wahanui | kmkale: That doesn't look right. Try 'airport code for CITY' or 'airport name for CODE' instead. |
12:34 | kmkale | shutup wahanui |
12:35 | druthb | so far, so good. We got out of Mumbai right on time, landed right on time, 15 weary hours later. |
12:35 | kmkale | good. |
12:35 | druthb | sekjal and I didn't get out of our seats the whole time...slept somewhat fitfully, so I'm a little tired right now. |
12:36 | kmkale | druthb: how long till you reach home? |
12:36 | druthb | I have two flights left; it's about 07 |
12:36 | kmkale | yikes!! |
12:36 | druthb | 0745 here; I'll be home about 1800 |
12:37 | bg has three---here to Denver, to LAX, to Santa Barbara. | |
12:38 | kmkale | OMG. well take rest you you reach :) |
12:40 | druthb | the ticket counter for my next leg doesn't even open for about 45 minutes, and my flight isn't for a couple of hours. I figure I'll doodle around the shops here, maybe log on and work on the piles of email. Then a two hour layover in Milwaukee. |
12:41 | kmkale | druthb: no way to lay down and rest somewhere? |
12:42 | druthb | I wouldn't rest, even if I did lay down. I find it very hard to sleep in the presence of people that I don't know well. |
12:43 | kmkale | humph I feel tored just reading all this |
12:43 | *tired too | |
12:43 | druthb | I'm in pretty good shape, really. I got several hours on the plane from Mumbai, just not all at once. |
12:45 | sekjal and I went to a movie Tuesday morning (Mumbai time...), and didn't do anything too strenuous. Ra One was *awesome*, even if you don't know a lick of Hindi. | |
12:45 | kmkale | heh did you? even francharb said it wasn't too bad. |
12:46 | so how did you oike the song & dance? | |
12:46 | *like | |
12:47 | druthb | I enjoyed it greatly. sekjal did too, I think; when the lights came up for intermission, he was grinning like a fool. Yes, the two big song and dance numbers were incredible. Great action, awe-inspiring CGI and sets. |
12:47 | kmkale | :) |
12:47 | I find it funny that you all like a typical hindi movie | |
12:47 | I hate that stuff | |
12:48 | druthb | lol |
12:48 | francharb | :) |
12:48 | druthb | hi, francharb! |
12:48 | francharb | hi druthb ! |
12:48 | druthb | :D |
12:49 | * francharb | thinks it will a while before eating spicy food again... |
12:49 | francharb | ;) |
12:50 | kmkale | aww! and we made it non spicy especially for you ;) |
12:50 | druthb | hehehehee...sekjal and bg and I had a bit here at Newark before splitting up--I went for a plate of nachos, no peppers. not very breakfasty, but I couldn't find a hamburger at this early hour. |
12:50 | francharb | and kmkale, this kind of movies are so unusual for us... how can we cross half of the world and not go to the movies???? |
12:51 | ;) | |
12:51 | kmkale | yup true! |
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12:53 | francharb | after Raone, next on my list : yeh saali zindagi, stanley ka dabba and shaitan. they all have good reviews on imdb! :) |
12:53 | what if, i | |
12:53 | will go back to work? | |
12:53 | ;) | |
12:53 | see ya | |
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12:54 | kmkale | OMG francharb you really got the hindi movie bug!! |
12:54 | francharb | hehe |
12:54 | druthb | he did! |
12:56 | francharb | kmkale, it's maybe worst that you think : here is what i am about to buy : http://www.honestjons.com/shop.php?pid=39352 ;) |
12:57 | ok, now, i need to focus on my emails and tests some bugfix!! | |
12:59 | * kmkale | is rolling on the floor laughing after taking one look at that list. Thats *SOME* bug!! |
13:04 | francharb | wait, they are all perfect : romance + familly + thriller!! |
13:04 | ;) | |
13:04 | * kmkale | can't stop laughing |
13:04 | francharb | :) |
13:05 | kmkale | francharb: glad you liked it so much. Let me know if you want to see some movie and can't find it. |
13:07 | francharb | thanks kmkale :) |
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13:23 | * druthb | heads to the ticket counter to check in. back in a bit. |
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13:40 | * kmkale | is going to a remote site for 2 days. So see ya all next week :) |
13:41 | paul_p | kmkale: see ya ! |
13:41 | druthb | well, the ticket counter that nominally opens at 8:30...isn't open yet. |
13:41 | paul_p | druthb: ??? |
13:41 | oleonard | Welcome back paul_p |
13:41 | druthb | waiting to re-check my bag for the domestic US flights home |
13:42 | * druthb | is a grumpy nerd. |
13:43 | paul_p | hello oleonard |
13:44 | druthb: ah, OK, ticket counter = airport. Was thinking of something like "our customer that is live since 8:30 has still open no tickets" ;-) | |
13:44 | s/open/opened/ | |
13:45 | druthb | ah, there...now she arrives.... back shortly. |
13:46 | kf1 | hi paul_p - back home? |
13:47 | paul_p | kf1: yep ! |
13:47 | I slept from 8:30PM to 7:00 AM this morning ! (after previous night in the plane) | |
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13:47 | oleonard | Hi nengard |
13:47 | nengard | wizzyrea around? |
13:47 | hi oleonard | |
13:49 | @later tell wizzyrea i need to know the secret to editing the documentation page - i edited it in HTML mode and the search engine is broken again - do you have it set so that people without the right permissions can't use scripts? I've had that happen when i taught classes - anyway, can you fix it and tell me how to edit the page in the future so that the search doesn't break? | |
13:49 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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14:28 | * magnuse | looks out of the window http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/6329142358/ |
14:29 | kf | oooooh |
14:29 | so nice | |
14:31 | nengard | my sister was features in the local paper: http://www.pressofatlanticcity[…]a50ef3e0049a.html |
14:31 | wizzyrea | magnuse: norway is beautiful |
14:32 | magnuse | yup ;-) |
14:32 | especially the northern bits | |
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14:41 | * druthb | curses like an angry Marine. |
14:41 | * magnuse | holds his hands over his ears |
14:41 | oleonard | I hear that's what my 4-year-old has been doing at preschool :| |
14:42 | nengard | what's up druthb? |
14:42 | druthb | I wonder if bg would pay me as well if I moved to open a Mumbai office of ByWater.... I've been called "sir" more times in four hours in the god-forsaken airport than I was in two WEEKS in Mumbai. |
14:42 | magnuse | :-( |
14:42 | wizzyrea | hrmph |
14:43 | druthb | I finally had to tell the TSA checkpoint supervisor that if one of her people called me "sir" ONE more time, I was going to ask her to summon the airport agent-in-charge, and file an immediate complaint. |
14:43 | magnuse | druthb++ |
14:43 | wizzyrea | druthb++ |
14:43 | *big hugs* | |
14:44 | druthb | (so she apologized, then they confiscated a laser pointer that has a ton of flying miles on it. Since I got it for free at a conference about a decade ago, I win, on points.) |
14:44 | wizzyrea | vindictive much, geez. (the TSA, not you) |
14:45 | druthb | I had a great trip *to* mumbai...no friskings, no issues--but the way back has been hell on wheels, beginning with being separated from my party in mumbai ("ladies' line", showing token respect for women...wherein they had me take my leg off to run it through the x-ray. |
14:45 | wizzyrea | doh |
14:46 | druthb | yah, that's unlawful in the US, but when a woman toting a .30 carbine asks me to take my leg off, then I take my leg off. |
14:46 | wizzyrea | um yes, probably wise |
14:46 | magnuse | sounds sensible |
14:46 | druthb | I bawled on sekjal's shoulder a little after that--this whole business was holding up the line, and everyone was staring at me standing there with no leg. humiliating. |
14:48 | paul_p | then they confiscated a laser pointer that has a ton of flying miles on it => I had a similar problem once, in Paris CDG, with a platic fork, that had 1cm dents, and was non-rigid. The guy never wanted to believe it had taken a plane at least 10 times ! |
14:48 | druthb | geez |
14:49 | paul_p | (& I didn't won, was valueless anyway. And there is a new one, that recently made Marseille <=> Mumbai without any trouble !) |
14:50 | druthb | I thought this gal was gonna ask me to take my leg off here at Newark...I was ready to blow my stack, and call the lawyers out of the bullpen, to see if I can own me an airport. |
14:51 | * oleonard | would fly Druthb Airlines |
14:51 | * wizzyrea | too |
14:51 | druthb | she actually started to say it--"sir...i mean, ma'am, could you...uhm...." And I raised an eyebrow, and she said, quickly, "roll your pants leg up a little so I can see the ankle of the prosthetic?" |
14:54 | nengard | heh |
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14:58 | * druthb | is *not* to be trifled with right now; she's in an unstable state. |
15:00 | wizzyrea | :( |
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15:19 | NCARLibrary | greetings all |
15:19 | i've got a report that i'm almost certain was working fine prior to recent upgrade to 3.4.5 | |
15:20 | adminacct | guys... a strange request... but where can I grab a copy of the 3.4.5 koha / koha-common deb packs? http://debian.koha-community.o[…]pool/main/k/koha/ isn't showing me any |
15:22 | oleonard | NCARLibrary: What's the report? |
15:22 | wizzyrea | @quote search don't ask to ask |
15:22 | huginn | wizzyrea: 1 found: #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" |
15:25 | NCARLibrary | standby... |
15:28 | pastebot | "NCARLibrary" at 128.117.174.128 pasted "Keyword in public note" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/110 |
15:33 | NCARLibrary | Can't seem get any results from it. |
15:34 | Actually, if I enter nothing at lcsh prompt I get tons of results. | |
15:43 | jwagner | NCARLibrary, if you're wanting the 952z, assuming your system has the standard Koha to MARC mapping it would be easier to query on items.itemnotes. But I'm not sure what the relationship is to subjects |
15:45 | NCARLibrary | so, rather than lcsh I should use items.itemnotes? |
15:46 | jcamins_away | NCARLibrary: I agree, you should be using items.itemnotes. |
15:46 | NCARLibrary | So what exactly needs to change in my code? |
15:46 | jcamins_away | SELECT biblionumber FROM items WHERE itemnotes LIKE <<Enter string>> |
15:47 | And remember you have to have a % at the beginning and end of your query. | |
15:47 | jwagner | Do you have subject terms entered in your itemnotes field? |
15:47 | jcamins_away | jwagner: that's a red herring. The sample on the wiki uses "lcsh" and "subjects." |
15:47 | NCARLibrary | no, just a string... "MISSING FL inventory" |
15:48 | * jwagner | mutters about carmine fishy things.... |
15:49 | * druthb | pickles herring, but won't eat it. |
15:51 | jcamins_away | druthb: then why do you pickle it? |
15:52 | druthb | beats letting it rot in place, I suppose. (I've pickled some once, for someone else, as an experiment...not a regular gig for me.) |
15:53 | jcamins_away | But if you don't eat herring, why have it around in danger of rotting? |
15:53 | NCARLibrary | A ha! I'm getting results now...but is there a way to make the listed biblionumbers hyperlinked to records/items? |
15:53 | wizzyrea | sql report library? |
15:53 | wahanui | sql report library is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
15:53 | druthb | I usually don't, jcamins. :) |
15:53 | jcamins_away | NCARLibrary: yeah, select the hyperlink as in your example. |
15:54 | jwagner | The earlier syntax you had around your select biblionumber field should work |
15:54 | wizzyrea | see the bit at the top about concat |
15:54 | jwagner | Just chop off your original query after that & use the item.itemnotes part instead |
15:54 | NCARLibrary | okay, standby. |
15:55 | * oleonard | still can't reproduce paul_p's error described in bug 5280 |
15:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5280 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered |
15:55 | paul_p | oleonard: :((( |
15:56 | * druthb | gets ready to board a puddle-jumper to Milwaukee. |
15:56 | paul_p | oleonard: do you have any mandatory fields in your setup ? (I don't have) any extended patron attributes ? (I have) |
15:56 | jcamins_away | See you in a few hours. |
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15:59 | NCARLibrary | It works! Thanks peeps. |
16:03 | oleonard | The mandatory are a good thing to check |
16:04 | That was the trigger paul_p, thanks | |
16:04 | * oleonard | starts digging |
16:05 | oleonard | Uh oh, delete patron error |
16:05 | Column count doesn't match value count at row 1 at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/Members.pm line 1665 | |
16:06 | nengard | Coda is working hard with her Daddy today: http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]38/in/photostream |
16:12 | oleonard | Here's my co-worker from 10 years ago: http://i.imgur.com/DgcgX.jpg |
16:14 | Another one: http://i.imgur.com/7PZxR.jpg | |
16:21 | kf | :) |
16:21 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7138: Can't print basket group order pdf <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a0f128c20d4fe8248> / Bug 6015 : Improving load_testing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9e4404a1567b5b8fc> |
16:21 | Oak | kf, time to go home, no? |
16:21 | oleonard | schema? |
16:21 | wahanui | it has been said that schema is tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org |
16:21 | kf | Oak: that's a good idea |
16:21 | :) | |
16:21 | bye all" | |
16:21 | ! | |
16:22 | Oak | :) |
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16:24 | * oleonard | 's patron delete error seems to have been a db problem on his end |
16:25 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 520 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 21 j ago) |
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16:29 | oleonard | Hi Schuster |
16:31 | Schuster | heyo... |
16:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 6015 : Improving load_testing" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e8bb42f763e3125d5> / Bug 5945: email not searchable in patron search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d2a6b34dc4863802d> |
16:32 | Schuster | OK so here is my problem in which I have created myself... Being self hosted which we have loved for the last 3 years as it allows me to "adjust" as necessary and I have not had any downtime or slowness due to internet - which this year has been a blessing due to changing in our network... |
16:32 | Ready... Don't throw anything... except your hands in the air... I have not upgraded Debian since the original install so I am still on ETCH. | |
16:33 | Has anyone had problems upgrading their Etch to Lenny and then doing the upgrade to Squeeze? | |
16:33 | I don't have a "new" box to move this to at this time, so am having to upgrade in place. | |
16:33 | jcamins_away | Schuster: oh my. |
16:34 | Schuster | I'm thinking right before thanksgiving I will upgrade to Lenny.. Then right before Christmas bring me up to Squeeze. |
16:34 | francharb | bye all |
16:35 | Schuster | All that said we are looking at self hosting in the future without a support company and coming back to the "true" Koha-Community code next summer. |
16:35 | Yeah, the don't touch it as it is working theory wasn't a good one in this situation. | |
16:36 | jcamins_away | Schuster: I've never upgraded Etch->Lenny, but I can tell you the Squeeze upgrade is pretty much painless. |
16:36 | Schuster | looking for any and all advice or recommendations as I venture down this road of system upgrades in the next two months. I may have a few questions as my support company doesn't do OS support just Koha support. |
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16:37 | jcamins_away | Schuster: I think the problem you're most likely to run into is incompatible versions of Perl modules, since you must be on a pretty old version of Koha? |
16:37 | Schuster | jcamins_away - glad to hear that... from what I have read so far all of it looks pretty seamless and pain free. But you all know me... I've probably done something that will make it painful! |
16:37 | I'm on 3.2 or so Harley actually. | |
16:38 | jcamins_away | Schuster: hm. |
16:39 | Schuster | I hadn't thought about my old version of Koha and its compatability with newer Perl. |
16:39 | jcamins_away | It's not going to be the Perl core that's the problem. It's going to be the modules. |
16:40 | Here's what I'd do: make a list of all the modules installed via CPAN. | |
16:40 | Figure out which of those modules are in Lenny and/or Squeeze. | |
16:40 | Identify which modules will have different versions when installed via apt. | |
16:40 | Bring that list back to #koha and ask if anyone sees any problems. | |
16:42 | Schuster | ok thanks for the suggestion I hadn't looked at that. |
16:42 | jcamins_away | Schuster: anything other than Koha running on your server? |
16:42 | Schuster | Nope. |
16:43 | jcamins_away | Schuster: also, are you sure your server is powerful enough? |
16:43 | It seems to me that a server running Etch must be quite a few years old. | |
16:43 | trea | can anyone foresee the harm in running fines.pl if hasn't been setup in cron yet on a new server? |
16:44 | assuming you have the correct environment variables specified of course | |
16:44 | Schuster | Yes - I think it will be powerful enough - it is 3 years old Dell Poweredge 2950 quadcore 16 gig ram. |
16:44 | The mysql lives on a seperate Dell 2590 server. | |
16:44 | jcamins_away | Huh... I thought Lenny had been around longer than that. |
16:45 | Schuster | This all started because I'm looking at some development, but also moving back to community and "do you need new servers or are you going to cloud host it"... |
16:45 | jcamins_away | I thought you said you weren't getting new servers _or_ moving to the cloud? |
16:47 | Schuster | Servers came up fall of 2008. So Almost 4 years. |
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16:47 | Schuster | When I move to Koha-community I will have to do something either new servers at that time OR cloud - next summer. |
16:48 | jcamins_away | Okay, gotcha. But first you need a migration path. |
16:48 | Schuster | So maybe I do nothing and ride this out without the development changes we want to see.... hmmm that's a thought.... |
16:49 | Yes... migration path... I've been able to install squeeze on a laptop and take my existing database and "upgrade" it to 3.6 and it doesn't look like I've lost anything but yet gained funcationality etc... Granted I have not put it through the ringer yet, just preliminary tests. | |
16:50 | There are things I have done locally that when I move back to community I will need to "redo" and see about submitting to community. I've almost got a mobile web ready to go but it is using the old template system so would have to "redo" it for TT. | |
16:51 | Oak | me go now. |
16:52 | jcamins_away | Schuster: I'd suggest looking at getting those done earlier rather than later. |
16:53 | * chris_n | pushes the first auto-generated release notes |
16:53 | chris_n | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1166f4fee885f8903 |
16:54 | jcamins_away | Schuster: if you can get it into 3.8, it'll be there if you use 3.8, and much easier to backport if you use 3.6. |
16:54 | Schuster | The local changes? Yes that was one of the reasons I got this laptop up and running |
16:54 | wizzyrea | chris_n++! |
16:54 | that's awesome! | |
16:54 | jcamins_away | Schuster: excxellent. :) |
16:54 | Schuster | chris_n++ |
16:54 | chris_n | well, not 100% automagic, it still uses a template |
16:55 | wizzyrea | even so! |
16:55 | chris_n | but will update the bugfixes and contributors automatically |
16:55 | wizzyrea | pft, flavor text is unnecessary to generate each time :) |
16:55 | * chris_n | hopes to get a cron job together to do the update daily or weekly |
16:55 | Schuster | I just have to refresh myself on how to conjur git with this laptop to get my patches sent. Did it once, but it wasn't pretty. |
16:55 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 57 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 1 mo. 1 j ago) |
16:55 | chris_n | ok, 3.4.6 later today folks |
16:56 | off to find food | |
16:56 | wizzyrea | luckily for you the documentation has gotten a lot better. |
16:56 | jcamins_away | And rangi and gmcharlt have liberally shared their knowledge. |
16:56 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
16:57 | Schuster | Koha continually gets better every day with the things I see. I hope that once I'm back working with Koha-community I can work on sign offs and be more productive. |
16:57 | wizzyrea | rangi++ gmcharlt++ |
16:57 | we like more productive | |
16:57 | :) | |
16:57 | * wizzyrea | is more productive on Koha than I was on LLILS |
16:57 | Schuster | The community as a whole was the main reason we selected Koha in the first place over other systems. |
16:58 | oleonard | paying_for_something_youre_not_getting-- |
16:58 | Schuster | Then things happened, and I had to ride the wave to see where we came ashore... now I'm getting ready to paddle out again... |
16:59 | Yes they paying for was something we had with our last ILS before Koha and I kept wondering ... When will that Inventory enhancement come... | |
17:01 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5280] Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5280> |
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17:11 | jcamins_away | oleonard++ # for updating his blog |
17:11 | jwagner | Hi edveal |
17:11 | oleonard | It's about time! |
17:12 | jcamins_away | oleonard: I wasn't going to say that. I was going to let karma speak for me. :P |
17:12 | wizzyrea | i look at something on owen's blog at least once a week |
17:12 | oleonard++ | |
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17:16 | rhcl_metng | what's the status on EDI? |
17:17 | jcamins_away | rhcl_metng: sekjal would be the one to ask, but as far as I know, no progress has been made on integrating it. |
17:18 | * jcamins_away | goes to eat lunch. |
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17:22 | NCARLibrary | hey gang. happy wednesday. more SQL reports questions... |
17:22 | take a look at this: | |
17:22 | pastebot | "NCARLibrary" at 128.117.174.128 pasted "Keyword in Public Note" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/111 |
17:23 | NCARLibrary | If I wish to also include Call numbers, how and where do I insert that in the code? |
17:23 | edveal | Hi jwagner |
17:24 | jcamins_away | NCARLibrary: itemcallnumber |
17:24 | jwagner | NCARLibrary, here: biblionumber, items.itemcallnumber FROM |
17:24 | edveal, welcome in! | |
17:24 | NCARLibrary | okay. i'll try that. |
17:24 | thx | |
17:27 | (works!) | |
17:33 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #520: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 8 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/520/ |
17:33 | * henridamien.laurent: Bug 6015 : Improving load_testing | |
17:33 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7138: Can't print basket group order pdf | |
17:33 | * ian.walls: Bug 5945: email not searchable in patron search | |
17:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6015 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED , Enhancing the performance test suite |
17:33 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7138 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Can't print basket group order pdf. | |
17:33 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5945 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , can't search patron's email anymore | |
17:33 | wizzyrea | OH |
17:33 | we can search email now!?! | |
17:33 | sekjal++ | |
17:33 | cait | sekjal++ |
17:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 521 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #491 21 j ago) |
17:34 | cait | but still unstable :( |
17:34 | wizzyrea | lol the office at NEKLS just squee'd |
17:34 | cait | jenkins_being_unstable-- |
17:34 | wizzyrea | hrmph. |
17:41 | NCARLibrary | new question: what code snippet would cause my results to order by callnumber? Here's my code... |
17:41 | pastebot | "NCARLibrary" at 128.117.174.128 pasted "Keyword in Public Note" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/112 |
17:42 | jcamins_away | At the end add ORDER BY itemcallnumber. |
17:42 | NCARLibrary | okay |
17:42 | jcamins_away | NCARLibrary: without the period. |
17:43 | NCARLibrary | k |
17:45 | ugh, this reminds me...Koha's ordering default seems to be Dewey. | |
17:45 | It puts QA871 before QA9 | |
17:45 | jcamins_away | NCARLibrary: that's just the way it works with reports. |
17:46 | NCARLibrary | no way to order using LOC? |
17:46 | wizzyrea | does sql know how to order using LOC? |
17:46 | * wizzyrea | suspects not. |
17:46 | NCARLibrary | oh well |
17:46 | jcamins_away | NCARLibrary: not without a great deal of effort on your part. |
17:47 | NCARLibrary | meaning it would require lots of savvy coding? |
17:47 | oleonard | Does cn_sort not work with LOC? |
17:48 | jcamins_away | oleonard: ooh, good call. |
17:48 | NCARLibrary: change it to ORDER BY cn_sort | |
17:48 | wahanui | jcamins_away: that doesn't look right |
17:48 | * jcamins_away | waits for wahanui to restart. |
17:48 | NCARLibrary | trying |
17:52 | holy schnikies! it worked! | |
17:52 | thx oleonard | |
17:52 | Schuster | Great to hang with everyone today thanks... Have a great day off to an all afternoon meeting! YUCK. |
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18:17 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #57: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 22 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/57/ |
18:17 | * f.demians: 3.4.6 Translation Update | |
18:17 | * chris.nighswonger: Release Notes for 3.04.06.000 | |
18:18 | rangi | hmmm I sent paul_p a patch to fix the translation errors |
18:18 | should stop 2 tests failing | |
18:19 | and yay for 3.4.6 | |
18:20 | jcamins_away | Good morning, rangi. |
18:21 | rangi | heya jcamins_away |
18:21 | wahanui | i guess jcamins_away is currently working on fixing a bug. or building packages, which have a number of changes from Master that could never make it into Koha proper (for good reason). |
18:23 | cait | hiya rangi |
18:23 | rangi | hey cait |
18:23 | NateC? | |
18:23 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
18:23 | rangi | Hehe |
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18:39 | rangi | hey chris_n |
18:39 | wahanui | it has been said that chris_n is release maintainer for 3.4, and merges things into 3.4.x branch |
18:39 | chris_n | and not on time lately either |
18:39 | heya rangi | |
18:39 | I hacked up a script to semi-auto-generate release notes | |
18:40 | rangi | nice! |
18:40 | chris_n | you can see the results in the 3.4.x branch latest commit |
18:40 | rangi | sweet, ready for the release? |
18:41 | chris_n | in the next hour or so unless the sky falls |
18:41 | rangi | awesomesauce |
18:41 | * chris_n | is working toward semi-automating the release process |
18:42 | rangi | sweet |
18:42 | chris_n | for some strange reason I feel strongly impelled toward such automation ;-) |
18:42 | rangi | if its scripted jenkins can do it |
18:42 | build the release notes each time it runs | |
18:42 | etc | |
18:43 | jcamins_away | rangi: did I see that you had made some progress on adding locking to rebuild_zebra? |
18:44 | rangi | not in any useful way |
18:44 | jcamins_away | Ah well. I wouldn't have time to sign off on it for a while anyway. |
18:44 | rangi | I can do it easy for the packages |
18:44 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #521: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 10 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/521/ |
18:44 | paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 6015 : Improving load_testing" | |
18:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6015 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED , Enhancing the performance test suite |
18:47 | maximep | chris_n: oh nice, your release script even gets my coworker's name right (Frédérick) =) |
18:48 | and looks great | |
18:48 | chris_n | maximep: UTF8++ |
18:48 | rangi | my stop |
18:48 | bbiab | |
18:49 | cait | chris_n++ |
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18:57 | druthb | o/ |
18:59 | jcamins_away | \o |
18:59 | oleonard-away | Hi druthb, still in transit? |
18:59 | druthb | yep. at MKE now. |
19:00 | rangi | heya druthb :) |
19:00 | druthb | hi, rangi. |
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19:04 | rangi | hi aarkerio and trea |
19:04 | trea | morning rangi |
19:04 | aarkerio | buenos días! |
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19:08 | cait | morning all |
19:08 | aarkerio | hi! there is a way to cataloguing a scientific magazine using it ISSN and "pull" (load) the articles in the journal? |
19:08 | rangi | who wants to reply to adalid ortiz? |
19:08 | wizzyrea | hey chris_n - had you noticed this was happening? http://screencast.com/t/hthSz0Uz5 |
19:08 | rangi | on the mailing list |
19:08 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: no there is not. |
19:09 | aarkerio | or some way to list the articles using ISSN? |
19:09 | cait | hmmm |
19:09 | * oleonard | did the original work on the Nyack library, back before the great schism. Still looks the same. |
19:09 | cait | there used to be a web service |
19:09 | rangi | yeah |
19:09 | cait | where you could do something like that to serials |
19:09 | trying to remember the name | |
19:10 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: not in Koha. |
19:10 | cait | we had it in our horizon opacs |
19:10 | rangi | i was just gonna point out, not koha |
19:10 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: you need to use a link resolver. |
19:10 | rangi | but maybe it still is |
19:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 58 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #50 1 mo. 2 j ago) |
19:10 | rangi | verson number reports 3.1.0.39 |
19:10 | aarkerio | jcamins_away, 1) thanks for your help, 2) what is a link resolver? |
19:10 | rangi | so maybe just a really really really old koha |
19:11 | aarkerio | the RSS of the magazine? |
19:11 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: something like SFX. |
19:11 | chris_n | wizzyrea: ouch... is that in master? |
19:11 | jcamins_away | That will enable you to directly search databases that index a given journal. |
19:12 | aarkerio: you might be able to get cobble something useful together using tictocs (tictocs.ac.uk). | |
19:12 | wizzyrea | yes sir :( |
19:12 | jwagner | aarkerio, there's the work I did in Bug 3634 |
19:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3634 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagner, ASSIGNED , Adding OpenURL link to XSLT ISSN/ISBN |
19:13 | chris_n | wizzyrea: I'll have to have a look; is it in 3.6 as well? |
19:13 | jcamins_away | jwagner: yeah, that's what I had in mind when I suggested a link resolver. |
19:13 | wizzyrea | hmmmm that I don't know |
19:14 | rangi | most likely |
19:14 | oleonard | rangi: What was that school that was locked into Microsoft because of Silverlight? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/micr[…]s-it-matter/11180 |
19:14 | trea | chris_n - it is. we've had several partners report the issue after upgrading to 3.6 |
19:14 | rangi | theres not a lot in master yet, that isnt in 3.6 |
19:14 | * chris_n | will look at it immediately following the 3.4.6 release |
19:15 | wizzyrea | thks :) |
19:15 | rangi | oleonard: well, everything they do is lock in .. could have been anything |
19:16 | cait | hm whichmail are you talking about? |
19:17 | jcamins_away: think it was tictocs I was thinking about .) | |
19:17 | wizzyrea | the one that lists a kohalibrary.com library as using koha |
19:17 | aarkerio | jwagner, so, the current Koha actually have a link resolver? |
19:17 | oleonard | A few on that list look to be running modified templates as well |
19:17 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: no, a link resolver is a separate program. |
19:17 | wizzyrea | xercode almost certainly is |
19:18 | jwagner | no, I did the patch and it didn't apply, I haven't gone back to look at it. Someone else is welcome to have a go. |
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19:19 | aarkerio | mmm, where can I get and install the patch? |
19:19 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: even if the patch were in there, all it does is enable Koha to provide a link to a link resolver. |
19:20 | So unless you have a link resolver, you can't make any use of it. | |
19:20 | jwagner | Correct -- I worked it up for one of my sites which has SFX |
19:20 | But was trying to make it more generic | |
19:20 | aarkerio | I think save journals with all articles data (title, author, date) is a very common request in Koha, isn't? |
19:21 | rangi | not common enough for someone to pay anyone to get it done :) |
19:21 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: not very. If it's something you really wanted, and were willing to pay for, it would be possible to develop something to ingest data from tictocs. |
19:21 | It would not be inexpensive, though. | |
19:22 | aarkerio: and most journals don't have indexing available anywhere online anyway. | |
19:23 | aarkerio | rangi: ;-) true! |
19:24 | jcamins_away, well, I find many of the journals have RSS | |
19:25 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: in that case you are in a very fortunate field. ;) |
19:26 | aarkerio | mmmm, so, what can I do? just save the ISSN with the volume, year and item number? no articles data? |
19:26 | I can find the ISSN using z39.50 servers | |
19:26 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: you could enter it in manually. |
19:27 | * druthb1 | must be getting tired...had a double-take just now when someone who looked quite a lot like wizzyrea came walking by. |
19:27 | wizzyrea | :) |
19:28 | oleonard | That's just a glitch in the Matrix druthb1 |
19:29 | druthb1 | closer inspection showed that she appears to be about 5-10 years older than wizzy...but could be her older sister. Same basic shape, same face, almost, same hairdo, same sunny smile. Downright creepy. |
19:29 | rangi | chris_n++ |
19:29 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.6.0 & 3.4.6 are now available ; Next General IRC Meeting 16 November 2011 at 02:00 UTC+0 | http://www.koha-community.org | http://paste.koha-community.org | |
19:29 | wizzyrea | hey i'mno creepy |
19:29 | i'm not creepy :) | |
19:30 | druthb1 | :P silly wizzyrea! just spooky seeing you talking here, and moments later, thinking I saw you walking by. |
19:30 | * druthb1 | is still looking for the triplet of magnuse and trea. |
19:30 | oleonard | wizzyrea is secretly stalking you? |
19:30 | wizzyrea | it's no secret :P |
19:30 | druthb1 | ! |
19:30 | trea | lol |
19:31 | * druthb1 | would be lucky to be stalked by wizzyrea |
19:31 | * wizzyrea | puts on her creepy face |
19:31 | wizzyrea | chris_n++ yay for releases! |
19:32 | aarkerio | how can I save a single scientific article in Koha? |
19:33 | in cataloguing? | |
19:33 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: you'll have to catalog it yourself. There's no way to "save" data into Koha. |
19:33 | Yes. | |
19:36 | cait | you can do that in different ways |
19:36 | * chris_n | carefully examines wizzrea's label's bug |
19:36 | wizzyrea | were you able to replicate? |
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19:38 | libsysguy | hey #Koha |
19:38 | rangi | hey libsysguy |
19:38 | wahanui | libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
19:38 | * wizzyrea | giggles madly |
19:39 | libsysguy | never gets old |
19:39 | are there any javascript masters poking around in here | |
19:39 | * wizzyrea | looks for oleonard |
19:40 | aarkerio | I mean, since almost all articles are medical articles I can found them in PubMed and export the XML and the cataloguing them one by one |
19:40 | oleonard | libsysguy: I can try to help |
19:40 | libsysguy | hey oleonard |
19:40 | wahanui | hmmm... oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler |
19:40 | libsysguy | ok so I have this site http://lib.uttyler.edu/ |
19:40 | and i am using superfish to generate the menus | |
19:41 | aarkerio | need I create an " analytical record" for each article? |
19:41 | libsysguy | and some js to do that sliding thing |
19:41 | * chris_n | carefully examines rangi's latest fix for label-print.pl |
19:41 | chris_n | and zaps it with 'git revert' |
19:41 | libsysguy | but the slider overlays the menu |
19:41 | wizzyrea | oh snap |
19:41 | libsysguy | so I've peen playing around with z-index to no avail |
19:41 | * druthb1 | waves to libsysguy. |
19:42 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: it's something to do with display. |
19:42 | libsysguy | hi druthb1 |
19:42 | wizzyrea | chris_n++ <3 thanks for looking at that |
19:42 | libsysguy | jcamins_away: really? |
19:42 | i wouldn't have suspected that | |
19:42 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: I'm pretty sure. |
19:43 | libsysguy: you have to explicitly set it to whatever it's inheriting, maybe? | |
19:43 | chris_n | wizzyrea, trea: that did not make it into 3.6.0 fwiw |
19:44 | wizzyrea | right, only on master |
19:44 | libsysguy | so set the display to block then use clearfix? |
19:44 | trea | sorry, chris_n, terminology fail. we have partners on master with the problem |
19:44 | chris_n | ahh |
19:44 | trea | the perils of living on the bleeding edge |
19:45 | chris_n | you can just revert commit 607b5449bd |
19:45 | rangi | trea: the way i think of it, is they are on 3.7 |
19:45 | trea | good point, rangi |
19:45 | rangi | like htey were one 3.5 until 3.6 was released |
19:45 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: possibly? I'm not a JS expert, so I don't know what clearfix is. |
19:45 | rangi | what the hell |
19:45 | like they were on 3.5 | |
19:46 | trea | i speak typo :D |
19:46 | rangi | :) |
19:47 | @later tell paul_p i sent you a patch fo fix the templates not being translatable failing tests | |
19:47 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
19:47 | * druthb1 | is gonna get up, and walk around, and try to find some headache pills, maybe....got about an hour left on this layover before boarding. Might be back today, might be tomorrow before you see me. |
19:47 | wizzyrea | later druthb1 |
19:47 | libsysguy | jcamins_away: clearfix is just a way to clear floats |
19:47 | rangi | cya druthb1 |
19:47 | libsysguy | later druthb1 |
19:47 | trea | take care druthb1, safe travels |
19:47 | druthb1 | thanx, everyone. |
19:48 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: then, yes, I suspect that's what needs to be done. |
19:50 | wizzyrea | chris_n: you wanna tell paul_p to revert that one? |
19:50 | or should I just go ahead and file a bug | |
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19:51 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #58: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/58/ |
19:51 | chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.06.000 | |
19:51 | chris_n | wizzyrea: I'm submitting a patch to just revert the lines which break things |
19:51 | wizzyrea | beautiful :) |
19:52 | ty kindly | |
19:52 | chris_n | they need to be corrected for perl critic, but it will take a bit of re-writing |
19:52 | * wizzyrea | wonders about this one too |
19:52 | wizzyrea | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ec56ae6585547c593 |
19:53 | trea | hmmm |
19:54 | chris_n | no, that is ok |
19:54 | * wizzyrea | just wanted to check |
19:55 | chris_n | the problem is that the offending lines in label-print.pl depend upon modification of $_ to work correctly |
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19:55 | chris_n | they are adding a hash element to the array which is non-existent rather than simply modifying an already existing element |
19:56 | aarkerio | hi! there is way to import a Bibtex or an EndNote in Koha? |
19:56 | wizzyrea | ah yea |
19:57 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: no, you'd have to convert the BibTeX or EndNote record into MARC first. |
19:58 | aarkerio | and if I convert can I import it? |
19:58 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: yes, Koha uses MARC. |
19:59 | You use the Stage MARC Records tool. | |
20:00 | aarkerio | mmm, where can I found the "Import" option? |
20:00 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: Stage MARC Records. |
20:00 | In the Tools section. | |
20:01 | aarkerio | perfect! thanks! |
20:01 | jcamins_away | If you find a good way to convert BibTeX or RIS to MARC, I'd be interested in hearing about it. |
20:05 | aarkerio | I downloading this: http://bibtexml.sourceforge.net/ |
20:07 | jcamins_away | aarkerio: and then you'll write your own conversion? Good luck! |
20:10 | aarkerio | thanks |
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20:22 | jcamins_away | chris_n: what does the change you made do? |
20:23 | Or what did it do before you reverted it. I can't figure out what on earth the effect of those lines is. | |
20:24 | chris_n | do you mean what do those greps do? |
20:25 | jcamins_away | What I can't figure out is the => thingy. |
20:26 | chris_n | that assigns the value of $_ to the hash element 'batch_id' or 'label_id' |
20:26 | rangi | basically the problem with the current implementation |
20:26 | chris_n | the array element then becomes a single-element, anonymous hash |
20:26 | rangi | is changing lists inline is frowned upon |
20:27 | jcamins_away | Uhhh... where did the hash come from? |
20:27 | rangi | but my fix broke it :) |
20:27 | jcamins_away | Ohh. |
20:27 | I see. | |
20:27 | rangi | so it wasnt any better |
20:27 | chris_n | its created by the code inside the grep |
20:27 | its a bit obfuscated | |
20:27 | jcamins_away | A bit?!? |
20:27 | ;) | |
20:27 | chris_n | it is probably better form to use a foreach or some such |
20:28 | rangi | yup |
20:28 | chris_n | to walk through the array |
20:28 | but obfuscation is sort of cool | |
20:28 | * chris_n | ducks |
20:29 | * wizzyrea | readies the rotting tomatoes |
20:29 | rangi | jcamins_away: heres what i was tring to fix, badly |
20:29 | jcamins_away | So basically grep is acting as an in-place map? |
20:30 | chris_n | basically, in an abused sort of way |
20:30 | rangi | https://metacpan.org/module/Pe[…]tingListFunctions |
20:30 | basically inline modifications causes side effects which can bite you in arse later | |
20:31 | so i shoulda done a for | |
20:31 | but i was trying to be tricky too | |
20:31 | tricky-- | |
20:31 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
20:31 | chris_n | since I am already re-declaring the array, it does not much matter in this case |
20:31 | but if you were passing the original array around for general consumption, you'd be in trouble | |
20:32 | rangi | until someone changes the redeclaring bit ;) |
20:32 | chris_n | right |
20:32 | rangi | but working and dangerous is better than not working at all :) |
20:32 | chris_n | hehe |
20:33 | in this case I think we could actually get away with just 'grep{$_ = foo} @bar; | |
20:33 | jcamins_away | chris_n: so wouldn't it be better to use map { {label_id => $_} } @label_ids (or whatever the syntactically correct version of that is)? |
20:35 | chris_n | actually, both behave the same here |
20:35 | the really issue is modifying $_ | |
20:35 | rangi | http://virtualbreath.net/curio[…]-amongst-hackers/ |
20:35 | chris_n | but technically we are map(ping) I suppose |
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20:40 | lculber | Can someone help think through a weird keyword search issue in 3.6? |
20:40 | chris_n | jcamins_away: actually I think you put me on to the "fix" for critic |
20:41 | rangi: will this make critic happy: | |
20:41 | @batch_ids = map{{batch_id => $_}} @batch_ids; | |
20:41 | @label_ids = map{{label_id => $_}} @label_ids; | |
20:41 | there we don't modify $_ | |
20:41 | oleonard | @quote get 145 |
20:41 | huginn | oleonard: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
20:41 | jcamins_away | chris_n: you mean I got it right? Awesome! |
20:41 | chris_n | jcamins++ |
20:41 | rangi | chris_n: easy way to find out |
20:42 | TEST_QA=1 perl t/00-testcritic.t | |
20:42 | wizzyrea | lculber: go ahead anytime |
20:43 | lculber | thanks wizzyrea: I have a keyword search for school + census that is slow |
20:43 | all other searches okay. weird. | |
20:44 | why would that one combination cause a minute or longer search? | |
20:44 | wizzyrea | hmm |
20:45 | in my data that exact search doesn't cause any problem | |
20:45 | (that's on master) | |
20:45 | chris_n | rangi: how does one get it to run on @all_koha_dirs? |
20:45 | @dirs omits labels | |
20:45 | huginn | chris_n: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
20:45 | chris_n | thanks huginn |
20:45 | jcamins_away | lculber: I just tried that search on your catalog and it didn't seem to take very long. |
20:46 | wizzyrea | is that the exact search, school + census? |
20:46 | lculber | jcamins: okay in 3.4 It is slow on 3.6 test server |
20:46 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
20:46 | Hrm. | |
20:46 | rangi | chris_n: yeah just add it to dirs |
20:46 | im slowly adding more | |
20:46 | wizzyrea | "test server" possibly? |
20:46 | (i.e. poorer hardware) | |
20:47 | * wizzyrea | goes for the obvious |
20:47 | wizzyrea | (but not necessarily correct ;)) |
20:47 | lculber | wizzyrea: yes, and me possibly. I did the install. |
20:47 | rangi | chris_n: the plan is to add a dir, fix all the complaints, add the next etc |
20:47 | chris_n | label-print.pl passes |
20:47 | rangi | chris_n: yay! |
20:47 | wizzyrea | WOO for you guys fixing that, seriously |
20:47 | * wizzyrea | throws the confetti |
20:47 | chris_n | I'll submit a follow up patch |
20:47 | wizzyrea | lets have a party! |
20:48 | well we can't have a party without oleonard. | |
20:48 | * wizzyrea | sighs |
20:49 | jcamins_away | lculber: that is very peculiar. |
20:49 | lculber: and the data is exactly the same? | |
20:49 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
20:49 | is the test server public? | |
20:50 | lculber | jcamins_away: yes, the data is the same. At first I thought it was all keywords but not |
20:51 | just that combinaton. They did a lot of copy cataloging of that group of records | |
20:51 | chris_n | done |
20:51 | * chris_n | heads for home |
20:51 | rangi | chris_n++ |
20:51 | lculber | maybe some stray metacharacters? I just don't know |
20:53 | I think I'll poke around some more and see if I can find any more patterns that stick out | |
20:53 | matybe that will tell me something. Thtanks all. | |
20:54 | Sorry. Meant Thanks. | |
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21:07 | jcamins_away | Time for me to close up here. |
21:07 | Have a good night, #koha. | |
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21:35 | slef | @query openlibrary |
21:35 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Allow Koha to use the new read API from OpenLibrary |
21:35 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Allow Koha to use Openlibrary subject api | |
21:36 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6682 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , open library is two words | |
21:36 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7152 enhancement, P4, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Koha should make it easy for librarians to attach covers using Open Library | |
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21:36 | slef | are the covers working for others? |
21:36 | wizzyrea | i haven't had a chance to check yet |
21:37 | slef | I've done two 3.6/3.7 installs in the last week and openlibrary covers have not worked on either :-/ |
21:37 | * slef | digs into the code |
21:37 | rangi | hmm they were working |
21:37 | eythian | I need to get on to finishing up that last ticket. |
21:37 | rangi | at least when i wrote the initial patch they did |
21:37 | maybe the api changed | |
21:37 | slef | nafaict |
21:37 | I checked that ;) | |
21:38 | KOHA.OpenLibrary.GetCoverFromIsbn(); | |
21:40 | cait | hi slef :) |
21:40 | slef | hi cait |
21:40 | cait | any news about the dates? |
21:40 | sorry, being curious :) | |
21:41 | and can't wait to write them in my new calendar | |
21:41 | eythian | me too, I want to start planning some European stuff. |
21:41 | slef | cait: we'll know within 2 weeks. A colleague is dithering between a town hall and a lecture theatre. |
21:42 | rangi | ohh |
21:42 | cait | eythian: so you are coming? yay :) |
21:42 | eythian | Well, I'll certainly try. |
21:42 | slef | rangi: I'm struggling to spot the openlibrary cover pl code :-/ where is it? |
21:43 | rangi | pl code? |
21:43 | its all js | |
21:43 | slef | rangi: code in a .pl file |
21:43 | rangi | the only .pl would be setting the template var to tell it to use it |
21:44 | slef | yeah, I'm not even seeing that |
21:44 | or do all templates get all opac* prefs now? | |
21:44 | and ewww yuck on it all being js | |
21:44 | ;-) | |
21:44 | rangi | C4::Auth |
21:44 | yeah | |
21:45 | slef | scriptElement.setAttribute("src", "http://openlibrary.org/api/books?bibkeys=" + escape(bibkeys) + "&callback=KOHA.OpenLibrary.olCallBack"); |
21:45 | rangi | OpenLibraryCovers => C4::Context->preference("OpenLibraryCovers"), |
21:45 | in C4/Auth.pm | |
21:45 | its there | |
21:46 | slef | well, that's not what the docs I saw said |
21:46 | rangi | what docs |
21:46 | slef | http://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/covers |
21:46 | http://covers.openlibrary.org/[…]/$value-$size.jpg | |
21:46 | rangi | yeah its using the books api |
21:46 | not the covers api | |
21:46 | slef | why? |
21:46 | rangi | becaus the covers one wasnt there |
21:46 | slef | ah that's a fine explanation |
21:47 | * slef | looks for the books api docs |
21:47 | eythian | also, it'd be easier to detect and handle the non-existence of a cover with the books API, I'd think. |
21:47 | rangi | should be |
21:47 | read api might be even better | |
21:47 | http://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/read | |
21:47 | eythian | It's for doing batch stuff, iirc? |
21:47 | which'd be good for search results | |
21:47 | rangi | i started work on that |
21:47 | yeah | |
21:48 | http://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/api/books | |
21:49 | slef | I bloody hate js. Nothing is simple. Function names and callbacks. |
21:49 | eythian | JS is pretty clean really |
21:49 | slef | Bloody APL is easier to debug. |
21:49 | eythian | it's all the browser cruft that's annoying. |
21:49 | slef | which is the only way to run js, isn't it? |
21:49 | eythian | nope |
21:49 | not at all | |
21:50 | * eythian | did a lot of non-browser JS in a past life |
21:50 | slef | yeah, but of this type of code |
21:50 | setting src attributes and so on | |
21:51 | eythian | yeah, that's cause you're using it manipulate a DOM. I'm not convinced it's the best language for that, but it's the only one we have, alas. |
21:52 | slef | xslt sometimes, but bottom line is that you can't trust a browser to run this |
21:53 | cait | good night all |
21:53 | eythian | hi cait, bye cait |
21:53 | cait | lol |
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21:54 | slef | rofl |
21:54 | the books API doesn't find a cover | |
21:54 | the covers API does | |
21:55 | * slef | hands openlibrary its own backside on a plate |
21:55 | slef | ISBN:048627263X if you'd like to play along at home |
21:55 | eythian | hmm |
21:55 | rangi | it used to, thats why i was saying, maybe the api has changed |
21:56 | eythian | I wonder if it's requiring an exact ISBN |
21:56 | (ie. one in the same format that OL knows it as) | |
21:56 | I know that's the case with a prototype API I've been working with | |
21:57 | slef | books API for ISBN:048627263X returns ID OL22321034M - but the one with that ISBN and the cover is OL1716091M |
21:57 | any ideas? | |
21:57 | wahanui | any ideas are welcome :) |
21:58 | slef | http://openlibrary.org/books/OL22321034M/Flatland and http://openlibrary.org/books/OL1716091M/Flatland |
21:58 | eythian | slef: they're the same book |
21:58 | so I guess the APIs may do the lookup in a different order. | |
21:58 | aarkerio | hi! how can I add "Abstract" framework to cataloguing options? |
21:58 | slef | eythian: is something broken at openlibrary.org? |
21:58 | eythian | no, I suppose it just hasn't realised they're duplicates. |
21:59 | slef | eythian: this was working for no books, though. Let me go try another. |
22:00 | eythian | I can't see any obvious method for flagging things as duplicates |
22:01 | OK, sent it in through the "problem" form | |
22:06 | slef | where's the problem form? 0262560992 is also duplicated, but both have covers |
22:06 | wizzyrea | out of curiosity |
22:06 | slef | Does openlibrary have books that aren't duplicated? ;-) |
22:06 | wizzyrea | regarding chris_n's revert and subsequent fix of the deal with label creator |
22:07 | slef | sorry, biab |
22:07 | wizzyrea | in my test system, I reverted the patch |
22:07 | what happens when I go to do a git pull/ | |
22:07 | ? | |
22:07 | anything? | |
22:07 | wahanui | anything is possible with enough development work :) |
22:07 | wizzyrea | I love wahanui. |
22:07 | eythian | slef: right at the bottom |
22:08 | wizzyrea | (the git pull will have his patch to fix the change that necessitated the revert, in this scenario) |
22:08 | eythian | wizzyrea: it'll either work it out for you, or it won't and it'll nag you about it |
22:08 | wizzyrea | hm |
22:08 | because it's merging? | |
22:08 | slef | eythian: "[Report this page or content as spam] Problem?" |
22:09 | eythian | I put it under "Other" |
22:09 | slef | eythian: OIC. So they have the wrong alt text :-/ |
22:10 | eythian | I didn't see the alt-text, but yeah, apparently so |
22:10 | Perhaps include that in your problem report :) | |
22:11 | slef | Done. Help Case #1414 |
22:11 | rangi | seriously |
22:11 | slef | Whatever that means. Can we track it? :-/ |
22:11 | rangi | a link to koha.org |
22:12 | on the koha mailing list | |
22:12 | slef | rangi: bwahahahaha |
22:12 | rangi | thats just stuoid |
22:12 | and stupid | |
22:12 | slef | I will retire to a safe distance and watch the fireworks. |
22:12 | now really biab before I get garotted by S | |
22:13 | wizzyrea | oh dear. |
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22:24 | rangi | im not RM anymore, if you want to pick a fight, i no longer have shackles |
22:24 | go right ahead | |
22:24 | jwagner | I don't particularly want to pick a fight, but you seem determined to. I would point out that I actually answered the original question, which was how to do customizations |
22:25 | rangi | you linked to koha.org |
22:25 | one of the major whole pile of mess things | |
22:25 | you know that | |
22:25 | jwagner | Yes, I did. That's where the presentation lives. You are welcome to copy it over to the community site if you wish. |
22:26 | And I also know that we repeatedly have offered to work with you on that site. I had a lengthy conversation with Bob Birchall last year on that subject, in his role as a member of the committee. | |
22:26 | rangi | i dont care |
22:26 | jwagner | There was no response of any kind. |
22:26 | rangi | your company is still trying to trademark Koha in nz |
22:26 | you do your own releases, just leave us alone | |
22:26 | and go do your own thing | |
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22:31 | jwagner | rangi, whether you like it or not, I am (we are) a member of this community. I have contributed and continue to contribute. You may not make a decision about who "belongs" here. |
22:31 | rangi | i make a decision about who i need to deal with |
22:31 | and i can certainly make my opinions clear | |
22:32 | jwagner | Quite so. I know the background of some of your decisions, and your opinions are certainly clear. So are mine. |
22:32 | rangi | oh yeah whats the background then ? |
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23:05 | rangi | http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/n[…]objectid=10763849 |
23:06 | wizzyrea | HA |
23:10 | talljoy | ghost chips. heh |
23:10 | rangi | did i show you the music video that that inspired talljoy ? |
23:10 | talljoy | nope |
23:11 | melia | that ad is hilarious |
23:11 | rangi | it is ;) |
23:11 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsFlVWqWHlA | |
23:11 | so is the music video | |
23:12 | talljoy | LOL ghost gun |
23:13 | rangi | put your chips in the air, eat them up like you just dont care |
23:13 | talljoy | where my ghost chips at... |
23:13 | rangi | hehe |
23:14 | talljoy | that is very funny |
23:15 | rangi | you remember the old whats up budweiser ads? |
23:15 | talljoy | yes |
23:15 | rangi | another nz band did a nz version of that |
23:15 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23a1k4N05Ms | |
23:17 | http://www.urbandictionary.com[…]ine.php?term=chur | |
23:17 | talljoy | chur |
23:17 | rangi | and thats your slang lesson for the day :) |
23:17 | talljoy | awesome. i may use it. |
23:23 | rangi | its one of those can use for pretty much anything words |
23:23 | melia | that's nz for you |
23:23 | rangi | heh |
23:23 | americans remove letters | |
23:24 | melia | rangi: I started saying chups so much while making fun of sam that now I do it by accident most of the time |
23:24 | rangi | we just reuse the same word for everything |
23:24 | hehe | |
23:25 | hmm i was gonna write another unsung hero on my lunch break, but ive totally forgotten who it was gonna be | |
23:25 | melia | I also told my parents that they should make a big list of questions to which the answer was six (sucks) to ask when they first met him, but they refused to participate in making fun of the nz accent on first meeting :) |
23:29 | edveal1 left #koha | |
23:37 | jwagner | I actually had far less trouble understanding the NZ accent than I did with the London accent the first time I went there. Hope to get back to NZ sometime. |
23:49 | rangi | hmm power flicked |
23:49 | * rangi | checks the ups is running ok |
23:52 | * ibeardslee | plans to take the stairs as he wanders for lunch |
23:53 | rangi | wizzyrea: i got caching going http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]a/svc/report?id=6 |
23:53 | not that you can really notice on that one, since its a really simple request |
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