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| 01:22 | libsysguy1 | anybody around that can maybe give me a brief rundown of the accountlines table? |
| 01:22 | rangi | theres a website for that |
| 01:22 | jcamins | It's evil. |
| 01:22 | libsysguy1 | well it is less about the structure |
| 01:22 | rangi | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]accountlines.html |
| 01:23 | libsysguy1 | cursed schema page :p |
| 01:23 | the breakdown of charges is in that table right? | |
| 01:24 | so if I have two overdue books there would be two tuples? | |
| 01:26 | rangi | yes |
| 01:26 | libsysguy1 | ok thanks rangi++ |
| 01:27 | seen slef | |
| 01:27 | wahanui | slef was last seen on #koha 1 days, 6 hours, 55 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: biab [Mon Oct 10 18:32:02 2011] |
| 01:28 | libsysguy1 | so who knows if slef is a play on words for $self |
| 01:28 | rangi | its a typo of self |
| 01:28 | that stuck | |
| 01:28 | libsysguy1 | i knew it!! |
| 01:28 | rangi | :) |
| 01:29 | libsysguy1 | i keep making that typo when i am writing my OOPerl stuff |
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| 03:26 | Amit_Gupta | heya all |
| 03:26 | heya chris gm | |
| 03:26 | rangi | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 03:46 | jransom | heya Amit |
| 03:57 | Amit_Gupta | heya jransom |
| 03:57 | on which date r u coming to india? | |
| 03:58 | eythian | Apparently my visa will be arriving tomorrow. |
| 04:14 | jransom | I got my travel documents today |
| 04:14 | I get there on the 22nd October | |
| 04:14 | and leave on the 12th | |
| 04:15 | ethian: my visa took weeks to get | |
| 04:16 | eythian | I sent mine on the 26th, they put it in the post today. |
| 04:16 | so, a bit over 2 weeks. | |
| 04:29 | Amit_Gupta | hmm |
| 04:30 | heya eythian | |
| 04:30 | eythian | hello |
| 05:05 | Oak joined #koha | |
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| 05:07 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:07 | Oak | Guten Tag cait |
| 05:07 | cait | hi Oak |
| 05:07 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 05:08 | eythian | cait: you're up late. |
| 05:08 | cait | lol |
| 05:08 | I can never make you happy, can I? | |
| 05:09 | eythian | nope :D |
| 05:09 | cait | thought so hehe |
| 05:09 | * wizzyrea | readies the slapping trout |
| 05:09 | cait | ? |
| 05:10 | wizzyrea | never mind |
| 05:10 | rangi | hi cait and wizzyrea |
| 05:11 | and oak | |
| 05:11 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 05:11 | Oak | oh hello rangi |
| 05:11 | rangi | late night wizzyrea ? |
| 05:11 | wizzyrea | yes and no - it's by choice |
| 05:11 | stupid glitch. | |
| 05:11 | cait | lol |
| 05:11 | stupid glitch | |
| 05:12 | and hi rangi | |
| 05:13 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 05:13 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 05:14 | Oak | cait, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s |
| 05:14 | cait | lol |
| 05:14 | Oak | :) |
| 05:15 | now you know | |
| 05:15 | next time wizzyrea readies the slapping trout, get your helmet! | |
| 05:15 | cait | I think it was not for me |
| 05:15 | wizzyrea? | |
| 05:15 | wahanui | I LIKE BAO or all about the resluts |
| 05:15 | wizzyrea | nope |
| 05:15 | resluts. | |
| 05:15 | cait | :) |
| 05:16 | wizzyrea | mhm |
| 05:16 | Oak | oh well |
| 05:26 | rangi | hmm |
| 05:26 | cait | eythian: 6199? |
| 05:30 | eythian | cait: yep |
| 05:31 | cait | glad you finally believed me :P |
| 05:32 | eythian | it was working for me the whole time, but I think maybe there'd been a change somewhere that upset it, and you were on a newer version (or something like that.) |
| 05:33 | cait | but you found the problem? |
| 05:34 | eythian | yeah |
| 05:34 | cait | cool :) |
| 05:34 | eythian | someone had added stuff that modified the record (stripping the item details) when it needed them later when it attempted to readd them. |
| 05:37 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6199] Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6199> / [Bug 7008] Sometimes zebra needs a tmp directory that it doesn't create itself <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7008> |
| 05:41 | eythian | sweet, first draft of a soon-to-be-Koha-library migration from Liberty completed in about 3 days. |
| 05:41 | cait | :) |
| 05:41 | eythian | (most of which was dealing with crazy character set issues.) |
| 05:41 | cait | sounds pretty normal |
| 05:41 | eythian | yep |
| 05:42 | the data had ligatures in it, defined by control characters. | |
| 05:42 | which is super-crazy. | |
| 05:42 | they weren't normal ligatures like æ either | |
| 05:43 | but ones you use typesetting, like making 'fi' one character. | |
| 05:47 | cait | ok? |
| 05:47 | that sounds a bit weird | |
| 05:49 | eythian | it is a lot weird. |
| 05:49 | My assumption is that they copy-pasted content from a PDF, which does that sort of thing. | |
| 05:49 | cait | hm |
| 05:49 | perhaps | |
| 05:50 | eythian | I hate our internal DNS management tool, I very nearly deleted an entire company domain when I intended to just delete a subdomain. |
| 05:51 | Oak | hm, detective cait and detective eythian working on a case. cool :) |
| 05:51 | cait | lol |
| 05:51 | Oak | :^) |
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| 06:06 | Amit_Gupta | heya laurence |
| 06:06 | laurence | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 06:10 | cait | hmpf |
| 06:10 | Can't use string ("1") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/katrin/kohaclone/acqui/booksellers.pl line 118. | |
| 06:10 | it doesn't like the change ian suggests | |
| 06:11 | $loggedinuser->{'flags'} & 1 | |
| 06:13 | ok, I see it | |
| 06:13 | never mind | |
| 06:16 | eythian | happy to help. |
| 06:18 | cait | eythian: |
| 06:18 | you still can help | |
| 06:18 | because it's still not working | |
| 06:18 | got past the perl error | |
| 06:18 | but it's still not showing me all baskets when I am a superlibraian | |
| 06:19 | eythian | what's the bug number? |
| 06:19 | cait | 6390 |
| 06:19 | I changed the superlibrarian line ot | |
| 06:19 | if ($userenv->{'flags'} & '1' || | |
| 06:20 | eythian | what line number/file? |
| 06:20 | Amit_Gupta | hdl around |
| 06:20 | ?? | |
| 06:21 | ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 06:22 | Amit_Gupta | heya ropuch |
| 06:22 | eythian | cait: also, no need for '' around the 1 (although it shouldn't hurt, but it might) |
| 06:22 | cait: and I'd bracket defensively there | |
| 06:22 | so, if (($userenv->{'flags'} & 1) || | |
| 06:25 | cait | ah |
| 06:25 | the '' are not there, sorry | |
| 06:25 | eythian: basket.pl | |
| 06:25 | patch attached to bug | |
| 06:26 | defensively? | |
| 06:26 | ropuch | cait: still strugling with superlibrarian check? |
| 06:26 | cait | yep |
| 06:26 | eythian | cait: there are two patches on that bug, and neither touches basket.pl |
| 06:26 | ropuch | Any success? |
| 06:29 | cait | oh yes |
| 06:29 | bookseller.pl... | |
| 06:29 | sorry | |
| 06:29 | running around, getting ready for work | |
| 06:29 | and the second patch | |
| 06:30 | eythian | I would expect & 1 to return true if the flag indicates the person is a superlibrarian |
| 06:31 | cait | but it doesn't :( |
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| 06:31 | cait | I have set the sys pref to 'only baskets created by this user' |
| 06:31 | and the user has superlibrarian rights | |
| 06:31 | but still not all baskets show up | |
| 06:31 | only the user's | |
| 06:31 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:32 | eythian | cait: perhaps throw 'warn's in where you expect the code to go, and see where it's going and what values it has |
| 06:32 | cait | http://paste.koha-community.org/74 |
| 06:33 | Oak | magnuse |
| 06:33 | eythian | that's some terrible code really |
| 06:33 | Oak | hello reiveune |
| 06:34 | eythian | a 5-line if condition is never going to be debuggable. |
| 06:34 | cait | I know |
| 06:34 | rangi | id do a warn $userenv->{'flags'}; |
| 06:34 | before the if | |
| 06:34 | eythian | yeah, it's a good place to start |
| 06:35 | I'd be inclined to split that if into multiple parts. | |
| 06:35 | cait | eythian: feel free to improve it |
| 06:35 | magnuse | Oak |
| 06:35 | eythian | cait: feel free to write my kohacon talk ;) |
| 06:35 | cait | :P |
| 06:36 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:37 | reiveune | hi Oak, cait, magnuse, everybody |
| 06:37 | cait | hi reiveune and magnuse |
| 06:38 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune and cait et al |
| 06:41 | cait | eythian: thx for looking at it :) |
| 06:42 | eythian: and I know it's ugly - but only saying it's ugly is not helpful :) | |
| 06:42 | eythian | well, if you split it into parts, then you debug each part of it separately. |
| 06:42 | which is helpful :) | |
| 06:43 | cait | eythian: I can do that |
| 06:43 | but the other parts work | |
| 06:43 | it's really only the superlibrarian part that's broken | |
| 06:43 | the sysprefs overwrite it, because it's never 0 | |
| 06:43 | um 1 | |
| 06:44 | eythian | you're not testing if it's one, you testing if it's an odd number. |
| 06:44 | which means that the superlibrarian bit is set | |
| 06:44 | which is what & 1 does, it just gives you bit number 1, and if its set it's true | |
| 06:45 | that explanation was a little too sbstract perhaps | |
| 06:45 | rangi | :) |
| 06:45 | in summary, it tests for odd number | |
| 06:45 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:45 | eythian | but, I'd start by printing out the flags. |
| 06:46 | rangi | yeah it was even |
| 06:46 | 261886 | |
| 06:46 | eythian | oh right |
| 06:46 | yeah, so not a superlibrarian | |
| 06:46 | no cape. | |
| 06:46 | rangi | which i think is caused if you have more than superlibrarian set |
| 06:46 | eythian | noo, shouldn't be |
| 06:46 | rangi | hmm |
| 06:46 | * eythian | isn't testing this right now, so take it with a grain of salt |
| 06:47 | rangi | yep its easy to test |
| 06:47 | eythian | but, if superlib is set, it should always be odd. |
| 06:47 | rangi | warn it |
| 06:47 | eythian | I think |
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| 06:47 | eythian | Unless bit 1 isn't superlib, in which case the whole & 1 thing is wrong anyway |
| 06:47 | I think haspermissions should understand superlibrarians. | |
| 06:47 | It's silly for every bit of code to have to check | |
| 06:48 | rangi | yeah |
| 06:48 | Amit_Gupta | any body try koha with solr |
| 06:49 | Oak | i hv nt Amit_Gupta |
| 06:49 | Amit_Gupta | hi Oak |
| 06:49 | Oak | :) hi |
| 06:51 | * eythian | mosies along |
| 06:51 | julian_m | hello! |
| 06:51 | cait | eythian: I think it did once, there is code like that, only it does not work |
| 06:54 | permission_system-- | |
| 06:54 | grrr | |
| 06:54 | will be back | |
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| 07:06 | Amit_Gupta | hi hdl |
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| 07:07 | francharb | hello all |
| 07:09 | rangi | hi hdl and francharb |
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| 07:14 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 07:14 | kf | hi hdl |
| 07:15 | asaurat1 | hi |
| 07:17 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf ;) |
| 07:17 | hdl | hi all |
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| 07:18 | kf | hi Amit_Gupta ;) |
| 07:19 | rangi | hi adrien_s |
| 07:20 | kf | hi adrien_s :) |
| 07:20 | adrien_s | guten morgen :D |
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| 08:14 | clrh | hello |
| 08:16 | kf | hi claire |
| 08:32 | rangi | paul_p: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/r[…]hts-to-All-Blacks |
| 08:33 | paul_p | rangi: OK, we let you the black shirt, you let us the cup. Sounds a reasonable deal ? :D |
| 08:33 | rangi | hehe |
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| 08:33 | rangi | gotta get past wales first |
| 08:34 | :) | |
| 08:34 | paul_p | yep. And you will have to get past your aussies friends |
| 08:34 | rangi | im glad they won |
| 08:34 | easier to beat them than south africa | |
| 08:34 | quade cooper cant tackle | |
| 08:34 | they only have 14 defenders :) | |
| 08:35 | paul_p | how to register a quote ? |
| 08:35 | I want to register "i'm glad Australia won" !!!! | |
| 08:35 | rangi | hehe |
| 08:35 | well out of australia and south africa | |
| 08:35 | or australia and england | |
| 08:35 | i will choose australia | |
| 08:35 | in rugby | |
| 08:35 | in cricket, i will choose sa, and england | |
| 08:35 | paul_p | too late, you said "i'm glad australia won". I heard it! ;-) |
| 08:36 | rangi | yep, cos they are easier to beat :) |
| 08:38 | adrien_s | England is easy to beat in cricket games ?! they must be sad about it :) |
| 08:39 | India won the last commonwealth games if I remember well, but I didn't notice how England got out of this | |
| 08:39 | rangi | no they are actually playing well |
| 08:39 | in cricket | |
| 08:39 | australia are easier for nz to beat in rugby, than sa are | |
| 08:39 | both are hard to beat in cricket | |
| 08:40 | http://www.espncricinfo.com/ra[…]/page/211271.html | |
| 08:40 | mtj | hiya pholks |
| 08:40 | paul_p: we are staying in vihang-inn too | |
| 08:41 | paul_p | KohaCon attendies will fill vihang-inn... (only 32 rooms) |
| 08:41 | (hi mtj) | |
| 08:42 | mtj | looks like their wifi may get a little 'stress-testing'... :p |
| 08:42 | ... and then we get stress-tested too | |
| 08:43 | adrien_s | will you guys learn a few hindi words ? ;P |
| 08:43 | paul_p | adrien_s: you want to give us some lessons ? |
| 08:44 | (did adrien_s introduce himself here ? He's the new support guy at BibLibre) | |
| 08:45 | adrien_s | we talked a little bit about Germany =) |
| 08:47 | First and last hindi lesson : | |
| 08:47 | I'm thirsty = mujhe pyaas lagi hai | |
| 08:47 | I'm hungry = mujhe bhook lagi hai | |
| 08:47 | I guess it's impossible to pronounce correctly for us, so you may die before getting a glass of water | |
| 08:49 | Oak | staff in hotel will understand English I think :) |
| 08:49 | mtj | hi adrien :) |
| 08:50 | Oak | water = pani |
| 08:51 | thirst = pyaas | |
| 08:51 | thirsty = pyasaa | |
| 08:53 | Thank you = Shookriya | |
| 08:53 | :) | |
| 08:53 | i'll stop now | |
| 09:03 | * paul_p | switches to "QAing bugzilla patches" mode... |
| 09:04 | kf | @later tell wizzyrea: the layout on the paid for support page for Busara Core Solutions is a bit broken, can you take a look? :) |
| 09:04 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:04 | kf | paul_p: have a second? |
| 09:05 | paul_p | kf: yep |
| 09:05 | kf | I sigend off on 6292 but there is a follow up from sophie I have no test plan for |
| 09:05 | and not sure what it's supposed to fix | |
| 09:05 | could you perhaps take a look? | |
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| 09:07 | Amit_Gupta | hdl there |
| 09:07 | hdl around? | |
| 09:21 | paul_p | kf: sophie_m is around, the best would be to ask here... Isn't the comment 13 enough ? (the test plan could be "have different overdues that would trigger different level of notice. Before the patch you get more than one letter, after the patch you just get a letter of the longest odue level, with all odues listed" |
| 09:22 | rangi | hmm but thats not what comment 13 says |
| 09:22 | Several letters where generated if a borrower had overdues with different | |
| 09:22 | due_date triggering the same level | |
| 09:23 | it says the same level of notice, not a different one | |
| 09:23 | kf | paul_p: I tested it for that- for me it worked without the follow-up |
| 09:23 | I am not sure which case the follow-up covers that didn't came up by testing | |
| 09:24 | and triggering the same level with different due_dates is mathematically not possible - not as long as the overdues don't care about holidays | |
| 09:24 | hdl | Amit_Gupta: ? |
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| 09:47 | kf | sophie_m? |
| 09:47 | wahanui | sophie_m is around, the best would be to ask here... Isn't the comment 13 enough ? (the test plan could be "have different overdues that would trigger different level of notice. Before the patch you get more than one letter, after the patch you just get a letter of the longest odue level, with all odues listed" |
| 09:47 | kf | forget sophie_m wahanui |
| 09:47 | wahanui: forget sophie_m | |
| 09:47 | wahanui | kf: I forgot sophie_m |
| 09:47 | sophie_m | kf ? |
| 09:47 | wahanui | kf is, like, cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss |
| 09:48 | kf | paul_p said to ask you about bug 6292 |
| 09:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6292 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Overdue notices have a bug when multiple overdues exist |
| 09:48 | kf | I was not able to find a test case for your follow-up |
| 09:48 | I would really like to see this go into 3.6 | |
| 09:48 | it's a great improvement | |
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| 10:16 | sophie_m | kf : the test case if : |
| 10:16 | you trigger level 1 after 10 days, leverl 2 after 20 and level 3 after 30 | |
| 10:17 | if a borrower has 2 books with overdue , one with 11 days and one with 15 for example | |
| 10:18 | without the followup, two level1 letters where générated 1 for the first document and one for the second | |
| 10:19 | kf | hm |
| 10:19 | I don't understand that I think | |
| 10:19 | sophie_m | with the patch, only one letter is generated, listing both documents |
| 10:19 | kf | because I think no notice shoul be generated at all |
| 10:19 | in this case | |
| 10:19 | perhaps I am using the overdues differently? | |
| 10:20 | are you using the overdues script with -t? | |
| 10:21 | sophie_m | arghh, this is when -t parameter is not used |
| 10:22 | kf | ok |
| 10:22 | can you give me an example to use without -t on the bug? | |
| 10:22 | how to specify the 10, 20 and 30 days limits? | |
| 10:26 | hm I think I understand now | |
| 10:26 | I will test it | |
| 10:27 | sophie_m | Admin>Tools>Overdue notice/status triggers |
| 10:28 | kf | I didn't know it would still use the triggers without -t |
| 10:28 | I misunderstood the documentation | |
| 10:28 | I will try it | |
| 10:28 | sophie_m | Should this followup be part of another bug then ? |
| 10:28 | kf | I think it's ok, I will test it as soon as I can |
| 10:29 | does teh problem exist without the follow up too? | |
| 10:29 | in that case we could ask paul to qa on the first and the second can go in a little later | |
| 10:30 | I am leaving for lunch - will be back a little later | |
| 10:34 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf |
| 10:34 | hdl around? | |
| 10:35 | adrien_s | "Today's fish is trout à la creme !" ... Bon appetit ! |
| 11:00 | kf | back |
| 11:16 | hdl | Amit_Gupta: ? |
| 11:17 | kf | adrien_s: was Cordon Bleu - but I doubt it was really french cuisine |
| 11:21 | magnuse | see ya later #koha |
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| 11:39 | sophie_m | kf : the followup fixes a problem that cannot occur with -t parameter |
| 11:40 | oakivil | Hello #Koha. It looks like I need to modify the bulkauthimport.pl to include my custom Authorities type INDEX_TERM, copying auth field 653. I am getting a |
| 11:40 | Field 653 must have indicators (use ' ' for empty indicators) at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92 | |
| 11:40 | -error even if I define indicators as ind1="" ind2="" to Marc21XML file, even with indicator values as 1, it gives the very same error. | |
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| 11:45 | oakivil | I fixed the problem by adding a subfield I forgot to add |
| 11:46 | Still unsure where the bulkauthimport.pl will put my authorities with only a leader field and field 653$a defined. | |
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| 11:50 | kf | oakivil: still around? |
| 11:50 | oakivil | yes |
| 11:50 | kf | thre is a line you will want to add to the import program |
| 11:51 | oakivil | ok |
| 11:51 | kf | hm I wonder |
| 11:51 | oakivil | I think I can figure it out |
| 11:51 | kf | have you tried bulkmarcimport with -a switch? |
| 11:51 | oakivil | already took a peek at it and thats why I ask. To not use false workflows |
| 11:51 | nope | |
| 11:52 | where should the authorities go in the database? | |
| 11:52 | kf | I think the table is auth_header |
| 11:52 | or something like that | |
| 11:52 | wahanui | i heard something like that was sticking in nengard's mind |
| 11:52 | kf | forget something like that |
| 11:52 | wahanui | kf: I forgot something like that |
| 11:52 | oakivil | ;) |
| 11:52 | kf | ok |
| 11:52 | at the moment | |
| 11:53 | I think there are 2 scripts you can use to import authorities | |
| 11:53 | bulkmarcimport with -a and bulkauthimport | |
| 11:53 | the options both scripts provide are different | |
| 11:53 | when i had looked at custom auth frameworks | |
| 11:54 | I thought that adding a line to abulkauthimport for the new 1xx field should be enough | |
| 11:54 | to make it work | |
| 11:54 | see here: | |
| 11:54 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb14d427d;hb=HEAD | |
| 11:54 | line 118ff | |
| 11:54 | the script finds out which framework to use by looking at the main heading in 1xx | |
| 11:55 | oakivil | well I want to add Subject words to field 653 |
| 11:55 | kf | yep |
| 11:55 | oakivil | like general descriptive words |
| 11:55 | kf | I know |
| 11:55 | nengard | is anyone here able to tell me how to get email working on my VM? I'd like to test owen's patron update email, but my system doesn't send email cause i never set it up |
| 11:55 | kf | but why 653 and using authlrities? |
| 11:55 | 653 is uncontrolled | |
| 11:55 | that means no authority linking intended | |
| 11:55 | oakivil | well because it seems like the easiest step to display Koha authorities functionality |
| 11:56 | kf | nengard: I can't tell you how :( but my coworker fixed it for me - can offer to try testing this tonight |
| 11:56 | oakivil | and because I couldnt find a generic enough field from 1xx |
| 11:56 | kf | oakivil: I would use another 6xx field |
| 11:56 | than 653 | |
| 11:56 | what kind of subjects do you want to put in there? | |
| 11:56 | oakivil | every kind of subjects |
| 11:57 | kf | hm |
| 11:57 | oakivil | I have a 29000 word large vocabulary |
| 11:57 | unsorted by anything | |
| 11:57 | kf | a 69x field would be better perhaps |
| 11:57 | if you want to link to authorieis | |
| 11:57 | you can use the 653 - but I would leave that open for real uncontrolled subjects | |
| 11:57 | jcamins_away | I would use 650. |
| 11:57 | kf | or that |
| 11:58 | jcamins_away: the problem is, he has authorities for those | |
| 11:58 | jcamins_away | kf: that's a good thing. |
| 11:58 | kf | if you want to keep them searate |
| 11:58 | oakivil | Marc21 fields re different when i look at the authorities documentation than in the bibliographic documentation |
| 11:58 | kf | you will want to use another field |
| 11:58 | oakivil: that's right | |
| 11:58 | jcamins_away | @marc 650 2 |
| 11:58 | huginn | jcamins_away: Source of heading or term Code from: MARC Code Lists for Relators, Sources, Description Conventions |
| 11:58 | jcamins_away | ^^ use 650$2 |
| 11:58 | kf | jcamins_away: perhaps you are right |
| 11:58 | yep | |
| 11:58 | to specify the source | |
| 11:58 | oakivil | but in koha i should have the authorities fields the same as in bibliographics? |
| 11:59 | jcamins | oakivil: the last two digits should be the same. |
| 11:59 | kf | the question is - does koha copy $2 over using the plugin? |
| 11:59 | jcamins | kf: that's a good question! |
| 11:59 | kf | oakivil: different frameworks :) |
| 11:59 | the main heading from 1xx in the authority fiel will be copied to 6xx in the bibliographic file | |
| 11:59 | nengard | thanks kf, testing is good, but i do want to get email working so I'll wait for a few more people to wake up over here and ask again :) |
| 12:00 | kf | nengard: :) I understand you, that's why I made one of my coworkers sit down with me last week |
| 12:00 | so happy it works now | |
| 12:00 | oakivil | yes the import script does the matching |
| 12:00 | jcamins | Hrm. I can't find the code for the plugin. |
| 12:00 | kf | hm not the matching |
| 12:00 | actually | |
| 12:00 | wahanui | actually is relevant to perl, that's a definite thing going for it, too. |
| 12:00 | kf | forget actually |
| 12:00 | wahanui | kf: I forgot actually |
| 12:00 | kf | the import script puts the authorities into a table in your database |
| 12:00 | totally separate from bibliographic records | |
| 12:01 | oakivil | so what if I just added a clause to the import script to put these field 653's to the custom Authorities framework |
| 12:01 | kf | and you can link them together |
| 12:01 | oakivil | and forget about any marc hassle |
| 12:01 | what is the most proper field etc. I am just lookign for a quick hack anyway :D demo is on friday | |
| 12:01 | kf | that should work I think |
| 12:01 | i think I would use a 69x | |
| 12:01 | but basically it should work like you want it to work | |
| 12:01 | you only have to know it willo not establish the links | |
| 12:01 | between your records | |
| 12:02 | oakivil | yeah |
| 12:02 | kf | that it will only do if the pk of your auth-header table and $9 in the records match |
| 12:02 | and the script will not do that | |
| 12:02 | you should ask jared about linking authorities to bibs... | |
| 12:02 | oakivil | I need to dig into the xml parsing module anyway because the xml variant uses different names for authorities frameworks |
| 12:02 | kf | but he might explode or something |
| 12:02 | jcamins | It's not really possible, sorry. |
| 12:02 | kf | no |
| 12:03 | but if you give it the right data to begin with, it works | |
| 12:03 | jcamins | By all means, try running link_authority_records_to_bibs.pl (or whatever the script is), but don't expect it to work terribly well. |
| 12:03 | oakivil | hmm |
| 12:03 | kf | oakivil: one working way is |
| 12:03 | oakivil: have ids for your authorities in 001 in authority, and the matching number in 6xx $9 | |
| 12:04 | then it will establish the link | |
| 12:04 | without running any scripts | |
| 12:04 | because all information is there | |
| 12:04 | that it needs | |
| 12:04 | if you can't provide those fields, there is a script, but as jcamins says there are some problems wtih it | |
| 12:05 | oakivil | you mean in the biblios 6xx $9? |
| 12:05 | kf | yep |
| 12:05 | if that matches the 001 and auth_header pk thing it will link | |
| 12:05 | jcamins | kf's plan is good. :) |
| 12:07 | oakivil | but if i just add these authorities, then modify by hand the Books marc framework to use my custom authority list for field 653$a. |
| 12:07 | Then I modify existing biblios by adding 653-fields to them. | |
| 12:07 | do i still need to define the authorities 001 field? | |
| 12:08 | kf | if you do it all by hand it will work too |
| 12:08 | oakivil | great |
| 12:08 | kf | the auth plugin ill take care |
| 12:08 | the other things we talked about are migration problems mostly | |
| 12:08 | cataloging from scratch should be ok | |
| 12:08 | oakivil | but now I also know how to import authorities together with the biblios |
| 12:09 | and how to define the linking. ATM the authorities are embedded to the marcdata | |
| 12:09 | jcamins | oakivil: if you just add the text in the 653, your authorities won't actually be linked. |
| 12:09 | kf | no |
| 12:09 | you have to go into marc bibiographic frameworks | |
| 12:10 | and link it to your auth framework, the $a field I think | |
| 12:10 | hope that works without more work | |
| 12:10 | oakivil | thats my plan |
| 12:10 | well thanks a lot guys again | |
| 12:10 | kf | :) |
| 12:10 | oakivil | or galls |
| 12:10 | you never know... | |
| 12:10 | * kf | crosses fingers |
| 12:10 | kf | hehe |
| 12:10 | * kf | is katrin |
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| 12:15 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.4.5 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 16 November 2011 at 02:00 UTC+0 | |
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| 12:35 | gboisson | hi all |
| 12:35 | i'm having a problem on koha 3.6, with tabs in Administration Set Library Checkin and Transfer Policy | |
| 12:35 | i've reproduced the bug in a couple instances here | |
| 12:36 | but not in the demos on the koha community portal | |
| 12:36 | oleonard | branch_transfer_limits.pl ? |
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| 12:36 | gboisson | i would like to know if anyone else has experienced that problem before |
| 12:36 | yes | |
| 12:37 | tabs are not functionnal | |
| 12:37 | and generate a javascript error when clicked | |
| 12:37 | oleonard | gboisson: I submitted a fix for something on that page recently, I wonder if you have it |
| 12:38 | gboisson | i see, that could be the reason |
| 12:38 | kf | I think it has been pushed, but not sure |
| 12:38 | gboisson | oleonard: where can i check this fix ? |
| 12:38 | kf | I had tested oleonard's patch |
| 12:38 | oleonard | Bug 6842 |
| 12:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Branch transfer limits broken |
| 12:39 | oleonard | It has been pushed, commit 377f174b0674b009945036c3ac3724378e12e9c5 |
| 12:39 | gboisson | hmm i saw this one but my problem is different |
| 12:41 | * oleonard | doesn't have any problem with the version in master |
| 12:42 | kf | gboisson: are you looking at the english templates? |
| 12:42 | gboisson | i have the problem in both english and french |
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| 12:44 | gboisson | for instance if i have two ccodes books and cds, instead of having one table for books showing up, and the other accessible through tabs |
| 12:44 | all the tables show up | |
| 12:44 | and tabs are non functionnal | |
| 12:44 | oleonard | What's the JS error? |
| 12:46 | gboisson | $("#DEPtable").tablesorter({wodgets:["zebra"], sortList: [[0, 0]],headers: {1: {sorter: flase}}}).tablesorterPager is not a function |
| 12:47 | on line 401 | |
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| 12:48 | oleonard | gboisson: That suggests to me that the version you're looking at is different from master |
| 12:49 | gboisson: The tables are now sorted by class, not ID: $(".sorted").tablesorter | |
| 12:49 | gboisson | ok i'll have a look in this direction then |
| 12:50 | thanks! | |
| 12:57 | paul_p | gboisson: & oleonard & kf : the sandbox gaetan is working on is not uptodate (2 weeks old ?) |
| 12:58 | kf | that can be the reason I think |
| 12:58 | paul_p | (has gboisson introduced himself ? It's our new project manager, like Francois Charbonnier & Stéphane Delaye) |
| 12:58 | kf | it's not that long since it was fixed |
| 12:58 | welcome gboisson then :) | |
| 12:59 | gboisson | true, i spoke with kf last week but didn't really introduce myself here... |
| 13:00 | i have started working for biblibre just one week ago ! | |
| 13:00 | :) | |
| 13:01 | kf | :) |
| 13:02 | gboisson: don't be afraid to ask questions :) we will try to help | |
| 13:02 | @marc 260 | |
| 13:02 | huginn | kf: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
| 13:02 | kf | @marc260$a |
| 13:02 | huginn | kf: I suck |
| 13:02 | kf | @marc 260 a |
| 13:02 | huginn | kf: Place of publication, distribution, etc. May contain the abbreviation [S.l.] when the place is unknown. (Repeatable) |
| 13:03 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6996] Encoding problem in opac-showmarc <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6996> | |
| 13:14 | jcamins | Does bug 7010 make sense to people? |
| 13:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7010 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Select all records from search |
| 13:14 | jcamins | I mean, the language, not the feature. |
| 13:15 | oleonard | Makes sense, but if you try to add too many items to a cart things will go wrong. Cookie size limit I think. |
| 13:15 | * oleonard | should file a bug for that |
| 13:15 | jcamins | Okay, I didn't *really* care about the cart anyway. Just lists. |
| 13:15 | :) | |
| 13:15 | Good thing, I guess. | |
| 13:16 | oleonard | You'll have to figure out how to limit the option to just the lists then, since the controls are linked |
| 13:16 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 13:16 | How many items can you have in the cart? | |
| 13:17 | I'm thinking if it's too many, have the OPAC alert the user. | |
| 13:17 | oleonard | I'll have to test again... it probably depends on the length of the biblionumbers rather than the number of items |
| 13:17 | ...if it really is a cookie size limit. | |
| 13:18 | jcamins | 4000 characters. |
| 13:18 | Probably is. | |
| 13:18 | oleonard | jcamins: In fact I discovered the bug when I was doing a task which could have used your suggested feature! |
| 13:18 | I wanted to add all the results of my search to a list :) | |
| 13:19 | I was doing it via the cart because adding to the cart is faster | |
| 13:19 | jcamins | Oh, eep! |
| 13:19 | That's not 4000 bytes per cookie, that's 4000 bytes per domain. | |
| 13:20 | oleonard | http://www.nczonline.net/blog/[…]kie-restrictions/ |
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| 13:21 | jcamins | I admit I didn't really expect anyone else was ever going to want bug 7010. Kind of cool that you could've used it. ;) |
| 13:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7010 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Select all records from search |
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| 13:27 | jcamins | Do we use YUI's cookie handling stuff? |
| 13:29 | How do I print data to the console? | |
| 13:33 | oleonard | console.log( foo ); |
| 13:33 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 13:33 | oleonard | jcamins: We use a jquery plugin for cookie handling in some places. In some (older) places we do it manually |
| 13:33 | jcamins | If you report the cart length limit bug, I'll fix it. |
| 13:34 | oleonard | Oh yeah, what do you have in mind? |
| 13:34 | jcamins | "You have tried to add too many items to your cart." |
| 13:34 | So, I guess it's not quite fixing it, more preventing it completely breaking your session. | |
| 13:35 | oleonard | It's the best we can do since it's a browser limitation |
| 13:36 | jcamins | Exactly. |
| 13:36 | sekjal | does anyone else have an opinion on bug 5459, before I mark it? |
| 13:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records loses holds from one |
| 13:37 | oleonard | sekjal: Only that it's seems obvious to me why a patron would have holds placed on both books: There's a waiting list on both and they don't know which will arrive first! |
| 13:38 | jcamins | Gee... it sure takes a while to get your cookie up to the maximum length. |
| 13:38 | oleonard | jcamins: Yeah, I've been editing them directly just now using a dump of biblionumbers from my database |
| 13:38 | jcamins | Good idea. |
| 13:38 | * oleonard | uses Firefox's Web Developer Toolbar for this |
| 13:41 | oleonard | Bug 7011 |
| 13:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7011 normal, P5, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Warn the user that they have reached the limit of how many items they can have in their cart |
| 13:41 | jcamins | Thanks. |
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| 13:43 | oleonard | Display of the cart is a tad slow when it has 1000+ titles in it :) |
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| 13:46 | * oleonard | roots for Bug 5898 |
| 13:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5898 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , search to hold feature not clearing |
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| 13:52 | jcamins | Okay... why is it displaying the wrong message? |
| 13:52 | sekjal | oleonard: 5898 passed |
| 13:53 | jcamins | It keeps on reporting "No item was added to your cart (already in your cart)!" when it should be using my new message. |
| 13:55 | oleonard | jcamins: Did you stroke its hair gently and whisper in its ear? |
| 13:56 | rhcl | uhhh, I'm in the wrong place |
| 13:57 | kf | lol |
| 14:01 | jcamins | val.length is undefined. |
| 14:02 | * jcamins | gives up. |
| 14:02 | jcamins | Well, it seemed like something I could easily fix. |
| 14:02 | Oh, I bet I know what I have to do. | |
| 14:04 | I have to turn an integer into a string. | |
| 14:04 | Weakly_typed_languages-- | |
| 14:04 | oleonard | That has tripped me up before |
| 14:05 | jcamins | Okay, now it works. |
| 14:08 | For me, anyway. | |
| 14:09 | maximep | paul_p: replied to bug 6879. If I attach the patch to 6414, will it have to be signed off again ? |
| 14:09 | jcamins | Adding records is boring. |
| 14:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6879 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Actual price should show correctly on order line and basket summary |
| 14:10 | kf | maximep: I hope not :) |
| 14:10 | paul_p | hi maximep. Not necessarily. it depends on the nature of the change. In this case no |
| 14:10 | if the QA request just a few changes, a few doc,... usually, it's not needed. Sometimes the QA or RM request a new signoff, but not the most common case | |
| 14:12 | maximep | do I attach the signed off patch or my original? |
| 14:13 | paul_p | maximep: the signed-off please |
| 14:13 | (but you'll have to amend it to update the 1st description line with the correct patch number) | |
| 14:15 | * chris_n | wishes he had a nickel for every time FF told him how embarrassed it was for having crashed :-( |
| 14:15 | kf | hehe |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | you'd have at least dinner at a fancy restaurant? |
| 14:19 | oleonard | On my Mac it's, "What did you do to make Firefox crash? Oh, you tried to quit Firefox? Why would you do that?" |
| 14:20 | gboisson | oleonard:kf: i have an explanation for the problem i encountered: autorized values cannot contain spaces (or accents, or unusual characters) |
| 14:20 | maximep | FF hasn't crashed for me in at least 6 months =) |
| 14:21 | oleonard | gboisson: We need to add server-and client-side validation for that |
| 14:21 | gboisson | yes that would be good :) |
| 14:21 | i'll file a bug for this | |
| 14:22 | or is there already one? | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | Nope, doesn't work, after all. |
| 14:23 | It insists on giving an error that the record was already added. | |
| 14:23 | paul_p | sekjal: I see you're QAing. How do you choose what you QA, as i'm QAing too, and that would be bad to QA the same patches. |
| 14:24 | me = sorted by Sev, and going from worst to lowest. http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]getlastlist=13133 | |
| 14:24 | sekjal | paul_p: QAing what comes to my attention first, either by email update or by request in channel |
| 14:24 | alex_a | oleonard: why both server and client validation ? |
| 14:25 | paul_p | sekjal: OK, then I'll announce here what i'm working on & pls do the same to avoid duplicate effort. OK ? |
| 14:25 | * paul_p | QAing 6253 |
| 14:25 | oleonard | alex_a: Client-side for speed (don't wait for the page to reload) and server-side as a fallback. |
| 14:26 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
| 14:27 | Nope, no idea. | |
| 14:27 | alex_a | oleonard: ok |
| 14:27 | jcamins | Well, that's more time than I should've spent on this. |
| 14:27 | oleonard: would you like me to e-mail you the patch I have that works randomly? | |
| 14:28 | oleonard | Randomly? :) |
| 14:28 | * oleonard | would be happy to test |
| 14:28 | jcamins | Yeah. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. |
| 14:28 | Clearly it's buggy, but I haven't the foggiest where. | |
| 14:30 | What's particularly baffling is the way that it does work occasionally. | |
| 14:42 | chris_n | wizzyrea: yeah, probably a five-star restaurant at that |
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| 14:50 | paul_p | sekjal: could you validate 6278 pls (should require just a minute) |
| 14:51 | * paul_p | QAing 6885 (sekjal) |
| 14:52 | jcamins | sekjal: when you get a chance, could you take a look at bug 5528 |
| 14:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support |
| 14:52 | oleonard | jcamins: Strange, I'm getting an "already in your cart" error when I know it's not |
| 14:52 | No idea if it's related... | |
| 14:52 | jcamins | oleonard: yes, that's the problem. |
| 14:53 | sekjal | jcamins and paul_p: will look at all those reports, yes |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Once you fill up the cookie, that's the error you get. |
| 14:53 | oleonard | Oh, okay |
| 14:53 | * oleonard | missed that part |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Except every so often, you get the right error. |
| 14:59 | sekjal | oleonard: do you have any tips on how I could get the "more searches" menu on the OPAC to break out of the dropdown and back into a plain, always-visible menu block? |
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| 15:04 | oakivil | Hello #Koha again! I was able to import Marc21XML-Authorities to a custom Authorities type INDEX_TERM on field 653. Trouble is that I cannot find my authorities from the authorities module. |
| 15:04 | Zebra is running and I can see it trying to look with the keywords I type to Authorities module. Zebra is also indexed after some fuss which required me to delete the locks in koha-dev/var/zebra -folder. | |
| 15:04 | Do i need to modify Zebra indexing rules to index field 653? | |
| 15:04 | oleonard | sekjal: $("#furtherm").attr("class","").attr("style",""); |
| 15:04 | jcamins | oakivil: you can't import MARCXML authorities. Only in binary MARC format, as far as I know. |
| 15:05 | kf | can someone help me with regex? |
| 15:05 | I want to remove ,[] from a string | |
| 15:05 | in perl | |
| 15:05 | sekjal | thanks, oleonard! |
| 15:06 | oakivil | well the script said 29000 authorities imported just fine, and i can see them in the database |
| 15:06 | koha.auth_header -table | |
| 15:07 | jcamins | oakivil: oh, interesting. Then I have no idea what's wrong. |
| 15:07 | oakivil | jcamins: It will be a lot of trouble to convert XML to binary |
| 15:07 | alex_a | kf: s/(\[|\])//g; |
| 15:08 | $your_string =~ s/(\[|\])//g; | |
| 15:09 | jcamins | oakivil: well, if it imported successfully, clearly I was mistaken. |
| 15:09 | kf | great, thx! |
| 15:10 | oakivil | jcamins: I have no idea whether or not the Zebra indexed properly |
| 15:10 | no errors thrown | |
| 15:11 | kf | alex_a++ |
| 15:11 | works :) | |
| 15:11 | oakivil: only searching is the problem? | |
| 15:11 | oakivil: have you zebra indexing with -a ? | |
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| 15:12 | kf | oakivil: ah, in which field is your main heading in the authorities? |
| 15:12 | perhaps this is not indexed | |
| 15:13 | hm, although I think it should be, it might be not | |
| 15:13 | alex_a | kf: :) |
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| 15:17 | kf | alex_a: I need to remove trailing spaces and ; too... can you give me another hint? |
| 15:17 | I have this now, removes , too s/(\[|\],)//g; | |
| 15:20 | alex_a | kf: ; at the end of a line ? |
| 15:20 | sekjal | paul_p: 6278 passed |
| 15:20 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:20 | jcamins | kf: you need to put a vertical bar before the , and then add |; after the comma. |
| 15:23 | alex_a | kf: try s/(;|\s{+})$//g |
| 15:23 | and s/(\[|\]|,)//g; | |
| 15:23 | jcamins | Oh, oops, missed the end of line bit. |
| 15:24 | oakivil | kf: zebra indexed with -a. |
| 15:25 | what is a main heading? This is the format of the imported data: | |
| 15:25 | <record format="FINMARC" type="Bibliographic"> | |
| 15:25 | <leader> nz a22 o 4500</leader> | |
| 15:25 | <datafield tag="653" ind1="" ind2=""> | |
| 15:25 | <subfield code="a">suometsät</subfield> | |
| 15:25 | </datafield> | |
| 15:25 | </record> | |
| 15:25 | Sorry for the pastebin. | |
| 15:26 | format is wrong | |
| 15:32 | oleonard | jcamins: If I output the contents of the array created by valCookie.split("/") it outputs "undefined" for items above index 1021 |
| 15:32 | kf | oakivil: hm should be in 100 in your authority |
| 15:32 | not 6xx | |
| 15:32 | oleonard | ...but I don't know what it means. |
| 15:32 | kf | ah, that's the bibliographic - ignoreme |
| 15:32 | oakivil | damn no its authority |
| 15:32 | jcamins | oleonard: oh, tht's weird. |
| 15:32 | oakivil | damn i didnt change those types or formats |
| 15:32 | jcamins | oleonard: I ran into problems long before that, too. |
| 15:33 | kf | alex_a: it doesn't like that much |
| 15:33 | jcamins | I guess you have short-ish biblionumbers? |
| 15:33 | oleonard | The list I'm using starts at 1 |
| 15:33 | oakivil | kf: bot in the database it made no difference |
| 15:33 | kf | alex_a++ now it works :) |
| 15:34 | thx a lot :) | |
| 15:36 | oakivil | kf: authority field 100 is imported into the Personal Name Authority type |
| 15:36 | i modified the import script to put 653 to the custom INDEX_TERM Authority type using field 653 | |
| 15:37 | kf | yeah |
| 15:37 | but that's not what it should do | |
| 15:37 | 1xx for authority, 6xx for bibliographic | |
| 15:37 | jcamins | oleonard: I have no idea what to make of the problem with split, but I guess that's the problem. |
| 15:37 | oakivil | ok |
| 15:37 | but it wont fix the zebra issue or will it? | |
| 15:37 | jcamins | oakivil: it will help the Zebra issue. |
| 15:37 | oakivil | ok |
| 15:37 | so any 1xx field will do? | |
| 15:37 | kf | I have to leave - will be back later as cait |
| 15:38 | jcamins | However, I have no idea whether you'll have to rewrite the Zebra configuration. |
| 15:38 | oakivil: no, it *must* be the 1xx field that matches the 6xx field you're using. | |
| 15:38 | oakivil | I think I'll take a look in the Zebra config |
| 15:38 | jcamins | So, 153. |
| 15:38 | oakivil | ah ok |
| 15:38 | jcamins | I'm not sure that's valid, though. |
| 15:38 | oakivil | now i got it |
| 15:38 | jcamins | I would definitely still strongly recommend that you consider using 650/150. |
| 15:38 | oakivil | Topical Term? |
| 15:39 | kf | yeah |
| 15:39 | oakivil | what is that? |
| 15:39 | I can do that tho | |
| 15:39 | for testing sake | |
| 15:39 | kf | ep |
| 15:39 | yep | |
| 15:39 | in authority the main heading goes into 150 then, in your bibliographic files it will end up in 650 | |
| 15:39 | now I am leaving :) | |
| 15:39 | bye all | |
| 15:39 | oakivil | ok |
| 15:39 | kf left #koha | |
| 15:39 | jcamins | oakivil: topical term is a general subject. |
| 15:40 | sekjal | oakivil: are you still aiming to create a new Authority Type? |
| 15:40 | jcamins | oakivil: it's not that you can't do things with 653, but if you don't understand MARC (and I'm guessing you don't really understand it), you're probably better off using something that's already configured. |
| 15:41 | oakivil | I am not a Marc-pro thats for sure |
| 15:41 | No idea | |
| 15:41 | Actually no one in our library knows marc21 that well | |
| 15:41 | jcamins | Yeah, you'll probably be happier using 650. |
| 15:41 | oakivil | but i dont know the FinMARC we are using either |
| 15:41 | jcamins | It won't make any practical difference, other than you won't have to rewrite everything. |
| 15:41 | oakivil | ok |
| 15:42 | jcamins | oakivil: You're using FINMARC? |
| 15:42 | oakivil | yes |
| 15:43 | jcamins | I have some... not-so-good news, if the data you're using is FINMARC. |
| 15:43 | Ignore everything we said, FINMARC is quite different from MARC21. | |
| 15:43 | oakivil | I mean in our library we use FinMarc |
| 15:43 | * jcamins | just looked it up. |
| 15:43 | jcamins | You'll need to do an entire new framework, with different indexing configurations, etc. |
| 15:43 | oakivil | but the Authority stuff is just made up from a RDF/XML type national vocabulary |
| 15:44 | we are converting FinMarc to Marc21 | |
| 15:44 | jcamins | Oh, that's good. |
| 15:44 | In that case, I still recommend 650. | |
| 15:44 | oakivil | actually I already did that according to a national committees established conversion rules using the USEMARCON-program |
| 15:44 | yup, importing, indexing | |
| 15:44 | jcamins | Okay, carry on. Use 650, because it'll be less painful. :) |
| 15:45 | oakivil | for sure I will take the least painfull path |
| 15:45 | but it is nice that I am finally starting to understand this Koha system | |
| 15:48 | Can you tell me how can I add a new sms service provider? | |
| 15:48 | I have their interface specs and it is such a simple interface, no brainer. | |
| 15:49 | Is there any documentation about the sms:ing module? | |
| 15:49 | sekjal | jcamins & paul_p: QAing bug 5528 |
| 15:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support |
| 15:49 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 15:49 | sekjal++ | |
| 15:49 | paul_p | sekjal: & jcamins QAing 6912 |
| 15:49 | oakivil | +1 |
| 15:49 | paul_p | (should be quickly done) |
| 15:50 | jcamins | oakivil: I have no idea, sorry. |
| 15:51 | bug 6912 | |
| 15:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6912 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , OPAC display crashes for analytical biblio without 008 field |
| 15:51 | oakivil | ok got Zebra working |
| 15:51 | thanks a million again | |
| 15:52 | oleonard | jcamins: Not a breakthrough, but a head-smacking step forward: We were checking valCookie.length instead of arrayRecords.length when looping over arrayRecords! |
| 15:53 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:53 | At least that wasn't my fault. ;) | |
| 15:54 | sekjal | 5528 passed (wehoo!) |
| 15:57 | wizzyrea | did I hear someone say there were ubuntu packages? |
| 15:57 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I've been using the packages at debian.koha-community.org, but there are also "launchpad" packages. |
| 15:57 | (I've been using the Debian packages on Ubuntu) | |
| 15:57 | wizzyrea | oh i SEE |
| 15:58 | those work ok? | |
| 15:58 | jcamins | I don't know what launchpad packages are. |
| 15:58 | No problems yet. :) | |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | the debian ones on ubuntu I mean |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Right. |
| 15:58 | The Debian ones work fine. | |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | dependencies are installed and all that jazz |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Unless you're on Ubuntu 10.04. |
| 15:58 | Bit of manual work then. | |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | ah |
| 15:58 | * wizzyrea | is |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Speaking of which, aren't we due for a new LTS release? |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | I don't mind manual work |
| 15:59 | jcamins | There's a wiki page which is accurate. |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | koha on lucid using koha packages? |
| 15:59 | jcamins | Though my Puppet configuration is somewhat superior. |
| 15:59 | Yup. | |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | kool |
| 15:59 | I was just looking at that | |
| 15:59 | jcamins | Lemme pastebin my Puppet config. |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | oo |
| 15:59 | yes, plz | |
| 16:01 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 74.73.18.99 pasted "wizzyrea: Puppet config for Koha (note that it requires other modules)" (165 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/75 |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 16:02 | ty | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | you're welcome. |
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| 16:07 | paul_p | WAing 6942 (sekjal) |
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| 16:10 | clrh_ | bybye |
| 16:11 | sekjal | lunch then appointment; back in a bit |
| 16:11 | cait | hi again #koha |
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| 16:16 | oleonard | jcamins: It works on the detail page because the function for adding a single record can complete with your error message |
| 16:17 | jcamins: It fails on the search results page because the function for adding multiple records only knows one error--the duplicate item error. | |
| 16:17 | jcamins | oleonard: oh, I guess I'm too distracted to notice that there are obvious patterns for when it works and when it doesn't. |
| 16:24 | oleonard | jcamins: I'll look at it again tomorrow if you haven't gotten inspired before then. |
| 16:24 | jcamins | oleonard: it's unlikely. Thanks for looking. |
| 16:24 | * oleonard | is leaving early |
| 16:31 | wizzyrea | jcamins++ thanks for the help |
| 16:31 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you're very welcome. |
| 16:41 | paul_p | it's time to go back home for me. See you tomorrow #koha ! |
| 16:42 | cait | bye paul_p |
| 16:42 | have a nice evening | |
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| 16:49 | wizzyrea | lulz |
| 16:49 | wish me luck | |
| 16:49 | We are upgrading from Koha 3.00.00.107 to 3.05.00.011, you must update your database | |
| 16:49 | ya think? | |
| 16:52 | jcamins | Yikes! |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | :) but it worked |
| 16:53 | Oak | good luck |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | should I be worried about a ton of |
| 17:00 | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2841. | |
| 17:00 | when running the 3.4 update? | |
| 17:02 | i haven't seen this particular thing before | |
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| 17:25 | jcamins | There are about fifty gazillion mysql modules for puppet. Does anyone know which I should use? |
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| 17:56 | bg | trea http://ticket.bywatersolutions[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2505 |
| 17:56 | huginn | 04Bug 2505: major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts |
| 17:56 | bg | whoops wrong window :) |
| 17:57 | * bg | feels silly :P |
| 17:59 | * collum | has a tendency to type in VI commands into irc. It hasn't worked, yet. |
| 18:01 | * jcamins | occasionally writes "/me" in e-mails. |
| 18:03 | wizzyrea | bg: at least it wasn't the password |
| 18:03 | bg | oh you want the password |
| 18:03 | it's gmcharlt | |
| 18:03 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 18:03 | rangi | trea can fix bug 2505 while he is at it |
| 18:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2505 major, P1, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , enable Perl warnings in all modules and scripts |
| 18:03 | rangi | :) |
| 18:04 | bg | yeah I'm always using vi commands in email or anything we're I need to type into ( :wq ) !!! heh |
| 18:04 | rangi | i do |
| 18:04 | but thats because i use mutt with vim as its editor to write emails | |
| 18:05 | gmcharlt | it's bg! |
| 18:05 | rangi | :) |
| 18:05 | wizzyrea | it's gmcharlt! |
| 18:05 | speaking of gmcharlt | |
| 18:05 | should I be worried about this | |
| 18:05 | Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2841. | |
| 18:05 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: master? |
| 18:05 | wahanui | master is probably for 3.6 |
| 18:05 | wizzyrea | when running the 3.4 remove items from biblioitems |
| 18:05 | it's the dev packages | |
| 18:06 | * gmcharlt | takes a look |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | it seems to happen on every bib |
| 18:07 | I did koha-upgrade-to-3.4 | |
| 18:07 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: you should be very, very, very worried |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | oh dear |
| 18:07 | gmcharlt | since it means you have NoZebra turned on |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | hah |
| 18:07 | ok | |
| 18:07 | * wizzyrea | can fix that |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | i forgot that I was moving this from a nozebra to a zebra |
| 18:08 | ty >.< | |
| 18:08 | bg | such a cute face there wizzyrea |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | oh hey |
| 18:08 | that works a lot better >.> | |
| 18:09 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 18:10 | someone buy eythian and liw lunch or something, packages = the bomb diggle. | |
| 18:14 | rangi | ok gotta go make breakfast for the kids |
| 18:15 | bbiab | |
| 18:15 | jcamins | Bomb diggle... that sounds like a mole that uses explosives. :) |
| 18:18 | wizzyrea | hee |
| 18:18 | wow, this library has more items than I thought | |
| 18:19 | * wizzyrea | is glad I didn't make them recatalog them all |
| 18:19 | jcamins | Was that option on the table? Yikes! You're scary! |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | not really |
| 18:20 | lesson kids: almost anything is surmountable if you have good and proven backups. | |
| 18:20 | the worst part of this was finding a dang machine to put it on | |
| 18:21 | jcamins | proven_backups++ # nothing worse than relying on a backup you've never tested. 99.95% chance it'll be corrupted. |
| 18:25 | Oak | me go now. good night \o |
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| 18:40 | libsysguy | hey #Koha |
| 18:45 | sekjal you around | |
| 18:46 | @later tell sekjal I'd like to talk about notices when you get some time | |
| 18:46 | huginn | libsysguy: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:55 | rangi | back |
| 18:56 | * cait | waves |
| 18:56 | bg | hi back |
| 18:58 | rangi | :) |
| 19:02 | sekjal | back, as well |
| 19:02 | jcamins | Huh. |
| 19:02 | I stand corrected. | |
| 19:03 | chris_n++ | |
| 19:04 | chris_n | hmm... |
| 19:04 | the proof of the pudding is in the crust as they say | |
| 19:04 | I'm not sure alt will work in the present state of things | |
| 19:05 | but I "think" that is what was intended back in days of yore when the code was first created | |
| 19:07 | I think the problem may come with the template code which assumes all columns on a sheet of labels are the same dimension | |
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| 19:09 | * chris_n | examines the lsl04 template |
| 19:09 | rangi | ok my stop |
| 19:10 | cait | lsl04? |
| 19:10 | edi? | |
| 19:10 | wahanui | edi is something weve been wanting too |
| 19:10 | cait | forget edi |
| 19:10 | wahanui | cait: I forgot edi |
| 19:10 | chris_n | ed? |
| 19:10 | ops | |
| 19:10 | cait | seems all I do today is making wahanui forget things |
| 19:10 | chris_n | man, can't spell today :P |
| 19:10 | cait | ah, there is a vendor called lsl |
| 19:10 | chris_n | gaylord labels |
| 19:10 | cait | makes sense |
| 19:11 | chris_n = talking about labels :) | |
| 19:13 | chris_n | yup, just as I suspected |
| 19:13 | the template code will need modification to allow variations in the size of columns | |
| 19:14 | * chris_n | encounters a buffer overrun error while attempting to assign time to his schedule for such a modification |
| 19:17 | rangi | back |
| 19:18 | chris_n | wb rangi |
| 19:19 | rangi | thanks |
| 19:20 | chris_n | hmm... using an xml description of the template specs would allow for a lot greater flexibility in accommodating varieties of templates |
| 19:28 | * chris_n | opens bug 7015 to keep track of this idea |
| 19:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7015 enhancement, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Fixup Template Code to Accommodate More Variety of Label Styles |
| 19:31 | jcamins | Ooh, I should congratulate Melissa Hofmann. |
| 19:32 | rangi | oh? |
| 19:32 | jcamins | Yeah, she just got a publication! http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/d[…]tal/29/3/yang.pdf |
| 19:32 | rangi | oh thats an old one |
| 19:32 | 2010 | |
| 19:32 | * jcamins | hasn't read it yet. |
| 19:32 | jcamins | Wait. |
| 19:32 | rangi | at least im pretty sure it is |
| 19:33 | jcamins | This does seem a bit familiar. |
| 19:33 | rangi | yeah i think its the quite badly done one im afraid :( |
| 19:33 | if its the voyager compared one im thinking og | |
| 19:33 | f | |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Oh, ouch. |
| 19:34 | Not a single Koha catalog represented. | |
| 19:35 | rangi | yeah exactly |
| 19:35 | In Koha’s and Evergreen’s advanced search, | |
| 19:36 | however, the terms are ANDed only, a fact that is not at | |
| 19:36 | all obvious to the user. In the demo OPACs examined, | |
| 19:36 | there is no option to choose OR or NOT between rows, | |
| 19:36 | nor is there any indication that the search is ANDed | |
| 19:36 | not true for either Koha or evergreen | |
| 19:36 | i remember dan scott pointed out a lot of the flaws for evergreen in a blog post | |
| 19:37 | evergreen also has rss feeds | |
| 19:37 | etc | |
| 19:37 | jcamins | Yeah... if you look at the dates of the study, it becomes clear... their data was three years old. |
| 19:37 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:37 | rhcl | whois melissa hofmann |
| 19:38 | rangi | http://coffeecode.net/archives[…]nd-Libraries.html |
| 19:38 | jcamins | She was one of the catalogers at my undergrad institution. |
| 19:38 | rangi | oh look i commented on that blog too |
| 19:40 | libsysguy | @random....how hard would it be to push the url variables from a current search into the advanced search if a user navigated there? |
| 19:40 | huginn | libsysguy: I suck |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | http://play.aadl.org/ |
| 19:40 | libsysguy | huginn replies to @random? |
| 19:40 | huginn | libsysguy: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 19:40 | jcamins | libsysguy: what do you mean? |
| 19:40 | cait | hm |
| 19:40 | remembering the last search | |
| 19:40 | I would like that | |
| 19:40 | libsysguy | basically pre-populate the advanced search form |
| 19:40 | jcamins | You mean, populating the advanced search boxes? |
| 19:40 | libsysguy | yeah like what cait said |
| 19:41 | just a random thought | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | It'd be easy. |
| 19:41 | libsysguy | I thought it would be |
| 19:41 | jcamins | libsysguy++ # for volunteering to have Koha remember searches. |
| 19:41 | cait | my automatic translation program does a good job, eh? ;) |
| 19:41 | libsysguy | hehe cait |
| 19:41 | well we could either stash searches in the session or in the url | |
| 19:42 | either way would be easy | |
| 19:42 | i've done it using catalyst but im sure it wouldn't be too much different with the Koha base | |
| 19:42 | * jcamins | is inclined to say that session is preferable. |
| 19:43 | libsysguy | tis...that way it keeps the url clean |
| 19:45 | chris_n | 10 days and counting |
| 19:45 | the topic bar needs a count-down timer to release day | |
| 19:47 | slef | so add one |
| 19:48 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 19:48 | chris_n | well... that would be one other thing to keep up with |
| 19:48 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7016] CanBookBeReserved uses GetItemsInfo unnecessarily <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7016> |
| 19:48 | chris_n | I was rather thinking of an automated one |
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| 20:05 | mle | : ) |
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| 20:08 | rangi | hi mle |
| 20:09 | mle | hey rangi |
| 20:09 | how are you? | |
| 20:09 | rangi | good thanks, frantically trying to finish a presentation, and deal with a release in 9ish days |
| 20:09 | hows you? | |
| 20:10 | mle | tired, but happy. on the train. dealing with the loud people talking ON THE PHONE. ;) |
| 20:10 | rangi | jcamins: 5528 passed qa |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 20:10 | rangi | im doing checks on it this morning |
| 20:10 | barring any suprises | |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Yippee! |
| 20:10 | rangi++ | |
| 20:11 | rangi | it will get pushed sometime today |
| 20:11 | jcamins | Very good news. |
| 20:19 | gmcharlt | @arewethereyet |
| 20:19 | huginn | gmcharlt: YES! |
| 20:19 | gmcharlt | liar |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | woohoo! |
| 20:19 | rangi | better not be |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | oh. |
| 20:19 | rangi | i still havent finished my presentation |
| 20:20 | gmcharlt | let's try this again |
| 20:20 | @arewethereyet | |
| 20:20 | huginn | gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 10 days |
| 20:20 | rangi | :) |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 20:20 | rangi | oh bug 6390 |
| 20:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ef, ASSIGNED , Basket only visible for librarian who created it |
| 20:20 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6390] Basket only visible for librarian who created it <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6390> | |
| 20:20 | rangi | who wants to sign off on that |
| 20:20 | cait | there, something nice and shiny to sign off :) |
| 20:20 | rangi | c'mon you know you all want to! |
| 20:20 | :) | |
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| 20:33 | trea | can you use jquery to add an input field to a form? ie, adding "sort1" to opac-userupdate.pl |
| 20:34 | cait | hm not sure that will work |
| 20:35 | gmcharlt | trea: yeah, you can use jquery to do enough DOM manipulation to create an input field |
| 20:36 | maximep | the problem is probably saving the field |
| 20:36 | cait | yeah |
| 20:36 | gmcharlt | but it can't, in and of itself, populate that 'sort1' field for you with existing data unless it's already being passwd back in the template |
| 20:36 | cait | depends what the software does with it |
| 20:36 | gmcharlt | and, yes, adding a field doesn't mean that opac-userupate.pl would automatically know what to do it with it |
| 20:37 | rangi | if you figure out how to do that with js |
| 20:37 | we are all dead | |
| 20:37 | dead i say | |
| 20:37 | trea | bum bum BUMMMMMMMM |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:38 | www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw | |
| 20:39 | rangi | heh |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | you are welcome |
| 20:39 | trea | that's what i hear in my head |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | ! is www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw |
| 20:40 | ! | |
| 20:40 | drat. | |
| 20:40 | I was hoping | |
| 20:40 | rangi | https://twitter.com/#!/wowser/[…]24133829572169728 |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 20:40 | cait | hehe |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | ok right. backups. |
| 20:48 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5459 - Holds not being shifted when merging biblios <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]40aa5d95e0bd43b73> |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | so excited about that one |
| 20:50 | rangi | :) |
| 20:53 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 471 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 21:30 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping db version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9b841eafac7b239b1> / Bug 5528: Analytic records support <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]512735f37fbfaf8a6> |
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| 21:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #471: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/471/ |
| 21:42 | Chris Cormack: Bug 5459 - Holds not being shifted when merging biblios | |
| 21:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5459 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records loses holds from one |
| 21:42 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 472 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:43 | * eythian | has his passport back with an Indian visa in it. |
| 21:44 | cait | whoohoo |
| 21:44 | rangi | awesome |
| 21:44 | cait | you are really going :) |
| 21:44 | rangi | i probably should check |
| 21:44 | but i just assumed i dont need one for canada | |
| 21:45 | bit screwed if thats not the case ;) | |
| 21:45 | phew | |
| 21:45 | i dont | |
| 21:46 | eythian | I doubt you'd need one for there, unless you're going via the US in which case you'll have to use there "I promise I won't take over the plane" system |
| 21:46 | rangi | i knew i didnt last time, but who knows |
| 21:46 | yeah, its still valid from ALA | |
| 21:46 | but no direct akl to van | |
| 21:46 | eythian | ah cool |
| 21:46 | cait | esta? |
| 21:46 | rangi | thats it |
| 21:46 | eythian | cait: yeah |
| 21:46 | rangi | not landing in the US |
| 21:48 | eythian | http://imgur.com/r/reddit.com/YZnHu |
| 21:48 | rangi | heh |
| 21:49 | ibeardslee | classy |
| 21:54 | JoeLib001 joined #koha | |
| 21:55 | JoeLib001 | I am unable to delete a Z39.50 Server entry. I think it is because I put a + in the title . |
| 21:55 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 21:55 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 34.9°C (2:55 PM PDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:55 | bg | holy shit that's a high! |
| 21:55 | I think that's the highest that I've seen | |
| 21:55 | @wunder 06516 | |
| 21:55 | huginn | bg: The current temperature in Third Avenue Park, West Haven, Connecticut is 15.3°C (5:50 PM EDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:55 | bg | eat that NateC |
| 21:56 | NateC | yeah rub it in |
| 21:56 | JoeLib001 | @wunder 76031 |
| 21:56 | huginn | JoeLib001: The current temperature in WWater Treatment, Cleburne, Texas is 26.1°C (4:51 PM CDT on October 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:56 | bg | NateC? |
| 21:56 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 21:56 | bg | love it |
| 21:56 | NateC | at least im not worried about falling into the ocean though |
| 21:56 | JoeLib001 | :-) |
| 21:57 | bg | JoeLib001: you can most likely just remove it from the database instead of using the GUI |
| 21:57 | JoeLib001 | Anyone know what would happen, if I just delete the Z39.50 Server entry from the z3950 table? |
| 21:57 | Ah. | |
| 21:57 | bg | it wouldn't be there anymore ;) heh |
| 21:57 | JoeLib001 | Hehe. :-) |
| 21:59 | Is there a place where I could enter the problem as a bug? | |
| 21:59 | 'cause I wouldn't call that a feature. :-) | |
| 22:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5630, follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]40a9c5f190515d9c3> / Bug 5630 Followup: checkpw_ldap not imported <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]36c5ffe2f9b188744> / Bug 5630 CAS improvements <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]976c9c22826e04b8b> |
| 22:10 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6977 : Adds support for repeatable subfields when importing authorities. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8049acaac2f95a3ed> | |
| 22:20 | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5898 - search to hold feature not clearing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e8c72d69aaa8e433> | |
| 22:30 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #472: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/472/ |
| 22:30 | * jcamins: Bug 5528: Analytic records support | |
| 22:30 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version | |
| 22:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support |
| 22:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 473 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 23:13 | Judit joined #koha | |
| 23:13 | Judit | hi |
| 23:13 | Irma joined #koha | |
| 23:14 | Judit | if you dont install the default notices during the initial webinstall- you dont have the option to set the Default messaging preferences for the patron categories |
| 23:15 | even if you create new notices with the same name, subject and code | |
| 23:15 | it this correct? | |
| 23:15 | 3.4.5 | |
| 23:15 | and 3.2.9 | |
| 23:16 | and how bad the situation is with the oil spill? | |
| 23:16 | slef | I'm checking 3.5 / master |
| 23:17 | and I think I read the boat's captain is in court | |
| 23:17 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #473: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/473/ |
| 23:17 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5630 CAS improvements | |
| 23:17 | * ian.walls: Bug 5630 Followup: checkpw_ldap not imported | |
| 23:17 | * paul.poulain: Bug 5630, follow-up | |
| 23:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5630 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements |
| 23:17 | jenkins_koha | * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6977 : Adds support for repeatable subfields when importing authorities. |
| 23:17 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 5898 - search to hold feature not clearing | |
| 23:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6977 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field. |
| 23:17 | slef | but sample_notices really seem to be in optional when they are almost required |
| 23:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5898 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , search to hold feature not clearing |
| 23:18 | Judit | was it his fault or he just takes the blame? |
| 23:18 | slef | depends on your point of view |
| 23:18 | Judit | and for my first question, if i am right: is that a bug or a feature? |
| 23:18 | slef | hrm, sample_notices is in mandatory... sort of the wrong name |
| 23:19 | sample_notices_message_attributes and sample_notices_message_transports are in optional in 3.5 | |
| 23:19 | when you wrote "default notices", you meant the sample_notices, right? | |
| 23:20 | Judit | yes, like the item due, and advanced notice, item checkout, item check-in, hold filled |
| 23:21 | slef | I think if you can install koha and not install a database part that's in the mandatory collection, that seems like a bug to me. |
| 23:21 | Let me check if it looks possible | |
| 23:22 | Judit | i have installed a koha-3.4.5- without the sample messages with no problem |
| 23:22 | slef | was it labelled something like "you really should install this"? |
| 23:22 | Judit | but then could not set the default messaging preferences in patron category |
| 23:23 | you know the box was missing al together | |
| 23:23 | i dont remember to be honest | |
| 23:23 | slef | I'll check but not until the morning. |
| 23:23 | Judit | and i have created new notices - copied and pasted over the subject, name, code, from an other koha |
| 23:24 | but i still had no box in the patron category | |
| 23:24 | slef | It looks to me like the checkbox for sample_notices is ticked, but you can untick it if you want |
| 23:24 | Judit | yes, i did:) |
| 23:25 | slef | yeah, I think you're basically right: either we need a way that you can get all the functions with you unticked that; or you shouldn't be able to untick that. |
| 23:25 | I don't think the current situation makes sense, but maybe someone knows why it is this way. | |
| 23:26 | do you have the URL for the page where you set the default messaging categories handy? | |
| 23:27 | the bit from /cgi-bin/ onwards is fine | |
| 23:27 | (I'd avoid linking your admin interface in this chat because it ends up on a public website) | |
| 23:28 | Judit | koha/admin/categorie.pl?op=add_form&categorycode=L |
| 23:28 | slef | liw: yeah, we've the usual fun with other events that can outbid us. We'll nail it down and be very very noisy as soon as we can. |
| 23:29 | magnus_away: thanks for saying my name ;-) | |
| 23:30 | Judit: ok, I'm looking that up... excuse my mumbling for a moment | |
| 23:30 | C4::Form::MessagingPreferences::set_form_values({ categorycode => $categorycode } , $template); | |
| 23:30 | C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingOptions | |
| 23:31 | oooh yuck :) | |
| 23:32 | Judit | does that mean good or bad? |
| 23:32 | :) | |
| 23:32 | slef | borrower_message_transport_preferences.borrower_message_preference_id = borrower_message_preferences.borrower_message_preference_id / message_attributes.message_attribute_id = borrower_message_preferences.message_attribute_id / message_transports.message_attribute_id = message_attributes.message_attribute_id AND message_transports.message_transport_type = borrower_message_transport_preferences.message_transport_type WHERE |
| 23:32 | message_attributes.message_name = ? | |
| 23:32 | it means I've something to think about :) | |
| 23:32 | Judit | ehm |
| 23:34 | slef | ok, that's irrelevant actually |
| 23:34 | Judit | :D |
| 23:34 | slef | or is it |
| 23:34 | ok, I'm confused :) | |
| 23:34 | Judit | so i am not the only one- good! |
| 23:34 | slef | I don't actually understand how this bit works at all. |
| 23:35 | This could be because a) it doesn't in the version I'm looking at OR b) it's 00:35 and I've just done a 16h day :) | |
| 23:35 | Like I don't mean why it doesn't work in your case... I mean why it ever works. | |
| 23:36 | there's this bit: | |
| 23:36 | # walk through the options and update them with these borrower_preferences | |
| 23:36 | my $messaging_options = C4::Members::Messaging::GetMessagingOptions(); | |
| 23:36 | PREF: foreach my $option ( @$messaging_options ) { | |
| 23:36 | ||
| 23:36 | arrrrrrrrrrgh | |
| 23:36 | I was looking at GetMessagingPreferences | |
| 23:36 | that says GetMessagingOptions | |
| 23:37 | bloody stupid naming | |
| 23:37 | Judit | :) |
| 23:37 | maybe it is the 61h day, you know | |
| 23:37 | 16!! | |
| 23:37 | not 61 | |
| 23:37 | slef | it's not just me, is it? those names are a bit close |
| 23:37 | mmm 61h days... I need some of those | |
| 23:38 | I've often asked for 36h days but hey, where's my ambition | |
| 23:38 | ok, so what I actually need to ponder is message_attributes.message_attribute_id = message_transports.message_attribute_id | |
| 23:39 | ah... did you load sample_notices_message_attributes? | |
| 23:39 | Judit | it was 6am- yesterday when i did it, i dont remember |
| 23:40 | sorry | |
| 23:40 | slef | it looks like you need to define some message_attributes to get the box to appear on the page you were looking at |
| 23:40 | and I've just broke my terminal :) | |
| 23:40 | aha, got it back | |
| 23:41 | Judit | so it depends on the messgae attributes not on the sample notices? |
| 23:41 | slef | yeah... I'm trying to look up where you define them now |
| 23:43 | I probably should just log into Koha. Maybe that'd be quicker | |
| 23:50 | I'm a bit puzzled. At least in 3.2.9, it looks like there's no interface to it except using a mysql client... now checking 3.5 | |
| 23:52 | can't find it in 3.5... this is strange. I think it would be worth asking the kohalists.katipo.co.nz how one edits the message_attributes, if it's not in the manual. Would you mind? |
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| 23:52 | Judit | THANKS FOR LOOKING INTO THIS |
| 23:52 | OH | |
| 23:53 | sorry | |
| 23:53 | slef | hi caps lock :) |
| 23:53 | Judit | :) |
| 23:53 | slef | no worries... I'm surprised no-one else is talking here |
| 23:53 | I'm probably getting this horribly wrong :) | |
| 23:53 | Judit | scary question |
| 23:54 | slef | I didn't find it in http://manual.koha-community.org/3.4/en/ |
| 23:55 | I'd just like to mutter "bah, this code says LibLime all over it". I think I've earned that ;) | |
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| 23:59 | slef | ok, back in 9h or so |
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