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| 02:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version to 3.05.00.015 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]66b090f70cac0140c> / Enh 6902: Novelist Select enhanced content <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]43c8f6d8ad3404e18> / Enh 6902: Novelist Select enhanced content <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5ff85d5562330dbd3 |
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| 03:26 | Project Koha_master build #470: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/470/ | |
| 03:26 | * ian.walls: Enh 6902: Novelist Select enhanced content | |
| 03:26 | * ian.walls: Enh 6902: Novelist Select enhanced content | |
| 03:26 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version to 3.05.00.015 | |
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| 04:37 | cait | morning #koha |
| 04:44 | rangi | hi cait :) |
| 04:44 | cait | hi rangi :) |
| 05:54 | ropuch_ | Morning #koha, hi cait & rabgi |
| 05:54 | *rangi | |
| 05:55 | cait | morning ropuch :) |
| 05:55 | rangi | heya ropuch_ |
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| 06:17 | ropuch_ | cait: do you by any chance have a minute and acces to 3.04.05 stuff interface? |
| 06:17 | cait | i might have |
| 06:17 | what do you need to know? :) | |
| 06:18 | ropuch_ | I found a strange bug yesterday: when patron category with some non standard Ĺletters was created, content of memeber.pl and members-home.pl was diplsayed with wrong ancoding |
| 06:18 | Although page info and doctype/head info still was sayingL utf8 | |
| 06:19 | cait | hm |
| 06:19 | the patron category code or description? | |
| 06:20 | ropuch_ | Description |
| 06:20 | cait | can you give me your example? |
| 06:20 | ropuch_ | Give me sec |
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| 06:22 | ropuch | The patron category description was "Uczeń" |
| 06:22 | fredericd | ropuch: bug 6989 |
| 06:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6989 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Patron categories not properly displayed if not pure ASCII |
| 06:22 | fredericd | test it, sign it off... |
| 06:23 | ropuch | But it was not only category that was dipslayed wrong, every single non-asci character on the page was messed up |
| 06:24 | And that was really strange | |
| 06:24 | cait | ropuch: weird |
| 06:25 | fredericd | Just try. Sometime a mix of utf8 and non-utf8 string breaks completly the page rendition. It depends of Perl version |
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| 06:25 | fredericd | Perl recent versions support far better those situations |
| 06:25 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 06:26 | ropuch | Serwus, Oak ;> |
| 06:26 | Oak | :) |
| 06:26 | rangi | yep, it can cause the browser to try and render it in iso |
| 06:26 | cait | eew |
| 06:26 | rangi | 9951 or wahtever |
| 06:26 | but that bug should be easy to test | |
| 06:26 | cait | 9951? |
| 06:26 | bit high | |
| 06:27 | ropuch | ;> |
| 06:27 | Oak | Aloha cait |
| 06:27 | cait | aloha Oak :) |
| 06:27 | Oak | you just said 'eew' |
| 06:27 | rangi | no iso-9951 |
| 06:28 | Oak | awesome |
| 06:28 | rangi | or whatever it is :) |
| 06:28 | cait | ew = encoding problems |
| 06:28 | Oak | sure |
| 06:28 | ropuch | ISO 9951 - Measurement of Gas Flow in Closed Conduits - Turbine Meters. |
| 06:28 | ;-) | |
| 06:29 | Oak | :) |
| 06:29 | ropuch | But I bet you were thinking about 8859 ;) |
| 06:29 | rangi | thats its |
| 06:29 | :) | |
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| 06:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:35 | rangi | hi reiveune |
| 06:35 | reiveune | :) hi rangi |
| 06:35 | cait | hi reiveune |
| 06:35 | reiveune | hi cait |
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| 06:51 | cait | morning paul_p :) |
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| 06:52 | ropuch | fredericd: the patch for 6989 wokrded for me |
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| 06:52 | ropuch | Now I need to look through signing off instructioons |
| 06:53 | rangi | sign off patches? |
| 06:53 | wahanui: signing off? | |
| 06:53 | wahanui | signing off is, like, a great idea |
| 06:53 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
| 06:54 | ropuch | I have strange feeling that "signing off" is not a proper form |
| 06:55 | rangi: I'm on this page already [; | |
| 06:55 | rangi | cool |
| 06:55 | ropuch | But I have'nt been using git for some time |
| 06:55 | rangi | ahh its not so tricky |
| 06:56 | i do this | |
| 06:56 | git commit --amend -s | |
| 06:56 | ropuch | I'm in the middle of ProGit Lecture ;> |
| 06:56 | rangi | and then attach it to the bug |
| 06:56 | using git-bz | |
| 07:03 | paul_p | hello world |
| 07:03 | rangi | hi paul_p |
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| 07:06 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:09 | francharb | hello all |
| 07:10 | paul_p | rangi: yikes ? http://www.leparisien.fr/diapo[…]-2011-1648954.php |
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| 07:11 | rangi | yep |
| 07:11 | its a mess | |
| 07:12 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/environ[…]onmental-disaster | |
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| 07:23 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:25 | alex_a | morning kf :) |
| 07:29 | kf | morning alex_a |
| 07:29 | :) | |
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| 08:48 | Amit_Gupta | heya koha |
| 08:48 | hi all | |
| 08:48 | rangi | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 08:48 | Amit_Gupta | heya hdl, rangi |
| 08:48 | hdl | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 08:48 | hi rangi | |
| 08:48 | rangi | hi hdl |
| 08:48 | hdl | Amit_Gupta: have you received my answer ? |
| 08:48 | Amit_Gupta | yes thank |
| 08:48 | for your reply | |
| 08:54 | kf | hi Amit_Gupta and hdl |
| 08:55 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf |
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| 09:39 | oakivil | 'ello #Koha |
| 09:40 | I would like to know more about the Authorities module. What Marc21-authorities fields are mapped and how do I define which authorities go to which Koha lists? | |
| 09:41 | kf | oakivil: the mappings are defined in the bibliographic frameworks |
| 09:41 | you link an authority framework to a marc subdield | |
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| 09:41 | kf | an example you can see for 100$a |
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| 09:57 | oakivil | kf: thank you, yeah it's coming clear to me now |
| 09:57 | kf | you are welcome |
| 09:57 | I never tried changing the mappings | |
| 09:57 | or creating new ones | |
| 09:57 | but it basically should work I guess | |
| 09:57 | oakivil | hardly necessary |
| 09:58 | I guess the big problem is the conversion of RDF/XML to Marc21-authority | |
| 09:58 | in my case | |
| 09:58 | kf | hm |
| 09:58 | xslt? | |
| 09:58 | wahanui | well, xslt is a maze of twisty turny passages, all alike. |
| 10:01 | oakivil | first I need to figure out how these RDF/XML files are structured |
| 10:01 | RDF as a authorities storage is pretty weird | |
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| 10:04 | oakivil | but xslt sounds like a answer |
| 10:04 | kf | :) |
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| 12:20 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:25 | kf | hi oleonard :) |
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| 12:52 | Oak | \o |
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| 13:11 | * oleonard | is relieved Bug 6576 is fixed |
| 13:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6576 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, changing framework while cataloging looses data |
| 13:11 | oleonard | Thanks for re-testing nengard |
| 13:13 | kijanka | I've already got used to it ;> |
| 13:14 | nengard | no prob oleonard |
| 13:14 | kijanka | Hi oleonard, nengard |
| 13:14 | nengard | hello |
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| 13:25 | oakivil | A question about Marc21-fields 6xx. Subject Added Entry and Index Term. It is possible to give one biblio multiple for ex. field 653 Index Terms, but how is it possible to show them in the OPAC to a customer? I should change the Zebra indexer settings to index field 653 and show it in the OPAC? |
| 13:25 | is this possible? | |
| 13:27 | kf | sorry oakivil |
| 13:27 | I am not sure I undertand your queston | |
| 13:27 | let me reread it | |
| 13:27 | isn't 653 repeatable? | |
| 13:27 | oakivil | yes it is |
| 13:27 | jwagner | If you're asking about _displaying_ the 653 that may require a change to the XSLT file |
| 13:27 | kf | it should show up with xslt view ON |
| 13:28 | no it shows | |
| 13:28 | we have that in one of our libraries | |
| 13:28 | all 6xx fields show | |
| 13:28 | standard | |
| 13:28 | oakivil | so i need to configure from admin -> settings the xslt view -> ON |
| 13:28 | kf | if noone has been changing that |
| 13:28 | yep | |
| 13:28 | jwagner | yes, if you're not using XSLT now |
| 13:28 | kf | it's recommendable anyway |
| 13:28 | much nicer view | |
| 13:29 | oakivil | I am importing this National Subject Word Repository to Koha, and I need to cut the words from this XML/RDF mess and create a Marc21 wrapper for them to be injected into Koha |
| 13:29 | But I need to make a custom Authorities type for that | |
| 13:29 | and then attach it to a Marc framework | |
| 13:30 | sekjal | oakivil: be sure your custom Authorities type uses a completely different MARC field for the main heading |
| 13:31 | kf | yep |
| 13:31 | what sekjal says | |
| 13:31 | and add that to the import script | |
| 13:31 | oakivil | in my default configuration Books marc framework has field 653$a hidden |
| 13:31 | kf | was a one liner last time I looked at it |
| 13:31 | oakivil: that only applies to the mac views | |
| 13:31 | the hidden values | |
| 13:31 | oakivil | ok |
| 13:31 | kf | not to the normal views/xslt views |
| 13:32 | oakivil | sekjal: so what do you mean by this "completely different MARC field" ? |
| 13:33 | sekjal | Koha is hardcoded to figure out what a MARC Authority Record's type is by what fields are present (110, 111, 120, etc) |
| 13:33 | oakivil | I create a marc21 binary file to be imported with this bulkauthimport.pl |
| 13:33 | ok so i have only tha bare necessary headers and the 653 field | |
| 13:35 | hmm xslt stylesheet were turned off | |
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| 13:49 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6963] When creating a new order, the item isn't added if its barcode already exists in the items table. <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6963> |
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| 13:52 | wizzyrea | mornin |
| 13:53 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 13:57 | rhcl | @seen gmcharlt |
| 13:57 | huginn | rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 3 days, 15 hours, 22 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> ... just for the very polite ones |
| 13:57 | gmcharlt | rhcl: howdy |
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| 13:58 | paul_p | sekjal: around ? |
| 13:59 | sekjal | paul_p: yes, I'm here |
| 13:59 | paul_p | fine. some questions around KohaCon & hackfest: who comes from ByWater ? in which hotel do you stay ? |
| 14:00 | sekjal | paul_p: bg, druthb, JesseM and myself |
| 14:00 | paul_p | bg ? You mean Bill Gates ? really ? (kidding ;-) ) |
| 14:00 | sekjal | :) |
| 14:00 | we're at Vihang's Inn | |
| 14:01 | paul_p | yes ! we are here too ! |
| 14:01 | you booked a suite for 3 of you (ruth being with jo & brooke iirc) | |
| 14:01 | ? | |
| 14:02 | sekjal | paul_p: I think we wound up in three rooms |
| 14:02 | paul_p | sekjal: do you have had some news from koustubha about hackfest ? |
| 14:03 | sekjal | paul_p: no, I haven't heard anything |
| 14:04 | paul_p | well, it's in less than 3 weeks from now, i'll drop him a mail to see where we are (I know he was wounded in an accident, this may explain that...) |
| 14:04 | will cc: you ! | |
| 14:04 | sekjal | thanks! |
| 14:05 | it's hard to wrap my head around how quickly KohaCon is coming up | |
| 14:05 | paul_p | lol. I've got my visa yesterday, so I feel the odor of the trip ;-) |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea | does anyone know if weird things happen with special characters, say, hyphens, in library codes |
| 14:06 | library branchname | |
| 14:06 | branchcode, sorry | |
| 14:06 | is that inadvisable or ok | |
| 14:06 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: last I heard, weird things happened. |
| 14:07 | wizzyrea | k, I thought that might be a bad idea |
| 14:07 | oleonard | How to test Bug 6553? |
| 14:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6553 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Parentheses in corporate author break tracings |
| 14:07 | wizzyrea | what about dots |
| 14:07 | sekjal | paul_p: my passport and visa were returned to the wrong address, several miles down the road... had to have a little talk with FedEx |
| 14:07 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: I'm betting that causes weird things, too, but I've never tried. |
| 14:08 | paul_p | wizzyrea: we don't have special chars in library code, except, iirc, we have a - once. and we had some problems with that (or was it a space...) |
| 14:08 | wizzyrea | thanks for the advice |
| 14:08 | :) | |
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| 14:09 | paul_p | wizzyrea: in fact we had both cases : once, there was a trailing invisible space at the end of a branchcode. No pain except in overdue_notices iirc. And once a - and some problems I don't remember exactly what they were (well, should have been in command line script, as - is for parameters...) |
| 14:15 | sekjal | jcamins_away++ (for work on bug 5528) |
| 14:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support |
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| 15:00 | oleonard | Re: Bug 7000, I don't understand what HomeOrHoldingBranch has to do with the display of library name on search results. |
| 15:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7000 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , show home and holding branch on staff search results |
| 15:04 | nengard | oleonard i don't mention that preference in the bug report do I? |
| 15:04 | kf | oleonard++ for bug 7002 |
| 15:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7002 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Inaccurate checks for borrower flags == 1 |
| 15:04 | oleonard | nengard: No but rangi mentioned it yesterday, and indeed the code includes a check for it |
| 15:04 | kf | I thought I was going crazy over this |
| 15:04 | nengard | oh |
| 15:04 | intresting | |
| 15:04 | oleonard | # set item's branch name, use HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref first, fall back to the other one |
| 15:04 | nengard | interesting |
| 15:04 | oleonard | if ($item->{$hbranch}) { |
| 15:04 | wahanui | interesting is good |
| 15:04 | oleonard | $item->{'branchname'} = $branches{$item->{$hbranch}}; |
| 15:04 | } | |
| 15:05 | nengard | i'm not sure it should have anything to do with it ?. |
| 15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:07 | sekjal | oh, we DID crack 7000 before 3.8 |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 15:07 | kf | yeah we did |
| 15:07 | nengard | sekjal that would be me :) |
| 15:07 | kf | sekjal: what oleonard writes in bug 7002 is the reason my work on the basket thing failed :( |
| 15:07 | nengard | was happy it wasn't a "bug" |
| 15:07 | kf | there seems to be no real working check for superlibrarian permission |
| 15:07 | nengard | or i thought it wasn't a bug but if oleonard says the code is funny maybe it was a bug :) |
| 15:08 | sekjal | kf: fix will require bitwise AND |
| 15:08 | kf | ?? |
| 15:08 | oleonard | Is the check used in Bug 6885 incorrect? |
| 15:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6885 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , Superlibrarian users can't delete items from another library when IndependantBranches |
| 15:08 | kf | sekjal: sorry, not sure I can go there |
| 15:08 | kijanka | From where can I get a working copy o git-bz? I've been trying to follow "Git bz configuration from koha wiki, but git-bz is throwing an error |
| 15:09 | kf | kijanka: what is your error? |
| 15:09 | kijanka | Same as your was, it seems |
| 15:09 | NameError: global name 'host' is not defined | |
| 15:09 | wahanui | i already had it that way, kijanka. |
| 15:09 | sekjal | kf: ($userenv->{'flags'} & 1) should do it |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | ah, have you configured your globals? |
| 15:09 | kf | sekjal: I can try taht tonight |
| 15:10 | sekjal | kf: cool; do keep in mind I could be mistaken, but that *should* fix it |
| 15:10 | kf | sekjal: than a lot of places in the code need fixing |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | kijanka: these - git config bz.default-tracker bugs.koha-community.org |
| 15:10 | git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.path /bugzilla3 | |
| 15:10 | git config bz.default-product Koha | |
| 15:11 | kijanka | wizzyrea: I've done it |
| 15:11 | kf | sekjal: I searched around in git and found different versions of checking for superlibraian, but none seemed to work :( |
| 15:12 | sekjal | yeah, lots of checks on {'flags'} != 1 |
| 15:13 | particularly in C4/Serials.pm | |
| 15:14 | kf | not only there |
| 15:14 | lists has a bug for that too | |
| 15:14 | acq probably... | |
| 15:14 | kijanka | wizzyrea: ok, I have it working - was misleaded by "or if you have Chrome or Firefox installed on your dev machine, and have logged into bugzilla at least once from that machine, git-bz can use that." |
| 15:14 | kf | ok, but more later - thx for the pointer |
| 15:15 | bye all | |
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| 15:15 | wizzyrea | kijanka: glad you got it workign. |
| 15:15 | kijanka | Me to :) |
| 15:15 | s/to/too | |
| 15:16 | There was this tiny script showing active git branch in bash prompt | |
| 15:21 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 66.213.78.34 pasted "Trick for keeping track of what git repo you are currently using/editing" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/73 |
| 15:21 | oleonard | Maybe that? |
| 15:21 | wahanui | Maybe that is, like, held generall and /etc/koha/zebradb/etc is valid for all koha-sites |
| 15:23 | kijanka | oleonard: that, thanks |
| 15:23 | maximep | I use PS1='[\u@\h \W$(__git_ps1 " (%s)")]\$ ' |
| 15:25 | oleonard | Interesting, maximep's works for me, the other doesn't (although I know it did at one time) |
| 15:26 | rhcl | http://www.lita.org/ala/mgrps/[…]0National%20F.pdf |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | graphicsmagick |
| 15:26 | wahanui | graphicsmagick is avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11. |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | ty wahanui |
| 15:28 | oleonard | rhcl: Right in my neck of the woods |
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| 15:30 | rhcl | We, which would be I, might be willing to "partner" with a vendor or other interested party if desired. |
| 15:31 | I'll be glad to share my impressions of this year's LITA conference, which I attended two weeks ago, if anyone would like. | |
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| 15:45 | libsysguy | so are we talking about bug squishing day or just hanging out today? |
| 15:46 | * wizzyrea | can't squish today, too busy doing other stuff |
| 15:46 | libsysguy | oh no...busy wizzy |
| 15:47 | sekjal | libsysguy: it's bug-squashing week-and-a-half, now :) |
| 15:47 | libsysguy | heh |
| 15:47 | hey sekjal...long time no type | |
| 15:47 | sekjal | hey, libsysguy |
| 15:47 | wahanui | well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | i laugh every time. |
| 15:48 | libsysguy | i giggle a little bit too |
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| 15:50 | libsysguy | sekjal i meant to ask you about bug 5079 |
| 15:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs |
| 15:50 | libsysguy | are you still using that for your libraries? |
| 15:51 | sekjal | libsysguy: yes |
| 15:51 | just the one, though | |
| 15:51 | libsysguy | did you see that it got failed? I guess it never got pushed? |
| 15:52 | sekjal | yeah, saw that |
| 15:52 | it's on my punchlist for the next few days | |
| 15:52 | libsysguy | right-o |
| 15:52 | i was just frustrated about it so I thought i'd poke you and ask | |
| 15:52 | sekjal | hourly loans, as well |
| 15:53 | libsysguy | that too...but I haven't had any issues out of hourly in a long time |
| 15:53 | so that makes me (and the circ staff) very happy :p | |
| 15:53 | sekjal | I find that highly encouraging |
| 15:53 | * wizzyrea | too |
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| 16:29 | paul_p | sekjal: just submitted a follow-up for 6328 |
| 16:30 | sekjal | paul_p: thanks! |
| 16:37 | cait | hi #koha |
| 16:39 | rhcl | hi cait |
| 16:39 | cait | hi rhcl :) |
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| 18:12 | Oak | Ooga booga #koha |
| 18:13 | that's hello in cavemen language | |
| 18:20 | cait | lol |
| 18:20 | seems not only me is in a good mood today :) hi oak | |
| 18:20 | Oak even | |
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| 18:42 | rangi | morning |
| 18:42 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 18:44 | rangi | who all understands indicators? |
| 18:44 | * jcamins | doesn't, but what's the question. |
| 18:44 | rangi | the question on the mailing list from magdalena about 490 |
| 18:44 | and indicators | |
| 18:47 | cait | I think it is the indicators |
| 18:47 | jcamins | Yeah, looks like an instance of the the XSLT stylesheet relying on MARC21-compliance. |
| 18:47 | rangi | ahhh |
| 18:49 | thought that might be it | |
| 18:51 | I wonder if we can have a loose mode or something? | |
| 18:51 | technically it is right | |
| 18:51 | but library data is very rarely compliant | |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Yeah, I suggest making it 490ind1 != '1' |
| 18:54 | cait | hm |
| 18:54 | rangi | right |
| 18:54 | cait | what is it now? |
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| 18:57 | jcamins | 490ind1 == '0' |
| 18:57 | rangi | ahh |
| 18:58 | yeah I like ur suggestion | |
| 18:58 | have u got time to reply to magdalena? | |
| 18:58 | jcamins | Uhhh... yeah, sure. |
| 18:58 | There should be a bug for this. | |
| 18:59 | I wish I could search for "490". | |
| 18:59 | rangi | thanks :) |
| 18:59 | she mentioned one 2704 I think | |
| 18:59 | bug 2704 | |
| 18:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2704 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, 440 Display Issues |
| 18:59 | rangi | but I dont think thats it |
| 18:59 | jcamins | Hmmm... I disagree with Robin's report on bug 5407. |
| 18:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5407 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Koha displays series entries in the order they're in the MARC |
| 19:00 | jcamins | I mean, it's true that Koha does what he says, but I think it should. |
| 19:00 | rangi | ahh |
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| 19:01 | rangi | you'd probably know better feel free to tell him so :) |
| 19:02 | nengard | i agree with jcamins |
| 19:03 | jcamins | nengard: any idea where the 490 bug is? |
| 19:03 | You filed it... | |
| 19:03 | nengard | 490 bug? |
| 19:03 | jcamins | Yeah, the bug about 490s not displaying properly. |
| 19:03 | Maybe it was closed. | |
| 19:04 | nengard | bug 2704? |
| 19:04 | that's the 440 | |
| 19:04 | and it is closed | |
| 19:04 | jcamins | Hm. Oh well. |
| 19:05 | rangi | not in 3.4.x only master maybe? |
| 19:06 | jcamins | No, the problem is still in Master. |
| 19:06 | It was a different problem with the 490. | |
| 19:06 | rangi | ah ok |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Where the "Series:" label was displaying, but no text. |
| 19:06 | rangi | my stop brb |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Anyone object to me copying her original e-mail straight into a bug? |
| 19:09 | No? Excellent! | |
| 19:10 | cait | I think it was me |
| 19:10 | the indicators | |
| 19:10 | before it was not showing them at all sometimes | |
| 19:11 | may be too strict now | |
| 19:11 | jcamins | If I don't fix this immediately, there's no way that I'll get around to it. |
| 19:11 | If anyone objects to the report, they can add a comment clarifying. | |
| 19:11 | :) | |
| 19:12 | How do I do != in XSLT? | |
| 19:12 | XPath, I mean. | |
| 19:12 | cait | not !=1? |
| 19:12 | jcamins | I don't remember. |
| 19:13 | Yes, != | |
| 19:13 | Cool. | |
| 19:14 | rangi | back |
| 19:18 | jcamins | rangi: so do we think you'll be able to push the analytics, in light of your proposal to push features and have them translated for 3.6.1? |
| 19:18 | rangi | its a bug right? |
| 19:18 | its still fair game in my book | |
| 19:18 | oh analytics | |
| 19:18 | wahanui | the 773$w field contains the value of the 001 field of the parent record. Also, MARC sucks. |
| 19:18 | rangi | duh |
| 19:18 | yes | |
| 19:19 | 5528 is still fair game | |
| 19:19 | as is 5549 | |
| 19:19 | oleonard | I can't believe that not a single non-English-speaking library has asked for a fix for Bug 1153 |
| 19:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1153 minor, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , opac-userupdate.pl update to allow moderation, and templatize |
| 19:19 | oleonard | ...at the very least the templatize part of it. |
| 19:19 | rangi | i thought it had a template? |
| 19:19 | does it not? | |
| 19:19 | wow | |
| 19:19 | yeah i cant believe that either | |
| 19:19 | oleonard | The email itself doesn't |
| 19:19 | rangi | ah |
| 19:20 | oleonard | The email message hard-coded into opac-userupdate.pl |
| 19:20 | rangi | we should make that a notice |
| 19:20 | altho that might be overkill | |
| 19:20 | just a .tt would be a good start | |
| 19:20 | jcamins | It was an enhancement. |
| 19:20 | Bug 5581 | |
| 19:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5581 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , BibLibre authorities improvements for 3.4 |
| 19:20 | jcamins | Maybe. |
| 19:21 | I just made that number up. | |
| 19:21 | * jcamins | confirms bug 7007. |
| 19:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7007 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , 490 not displaying without indicator 1 |
| 19:21 | * jcamins | confirms that his fix works. |
| 19:21 | rangi | jcamins++ |
| 19:21 | bug 5528 | |
| 19:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5528 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tajoli, ASSIGNED , Analytical records support |
| 19:21 | * rangi | knows them off by heart |
| 19:22 | jcamins | That's the one I was asking about 5528. |
| 19:22 | Please insert punctuation in the appropriate place. | |
| 19:24 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6598] OPACFineNoRenewals syspreference does not stop user renewing in opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6598> |
| 19:24 | * oleonard | is surprised in general at how much non-translatable text non-English-speakers put up with |
| 19:25 | wonders if they're just used to it | |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Okay, patched 7007. |
| 19:26 | rangi | cool :) |
| 19:27 | cait | oleonard: they don't complain a lot |
| 19:27 | oleonard: but always happy to improve it :) | |
| 19:28 | always happy if it gets improved :) | |
| 19:28 | so, that's what I meant | |
| 19:28 | rangi | :) |
| 19:28 | oleonard | That opac-userupdate bug is just so old! (for certain relevant definitions of old) |
| 19:28 | cait | oh |
| 19:29 | opacuserupdate is mean | |
| 19:29 | my libraries don#t use it really | |
| 19:29 | it confuses them :( | |
| 19:29 | the mail I mean, got complaints they don't understand what to do and how to read it | |
| 19:29 | oleonard | My point exactly! |
| 19:31 | That's why I'd really like to see it get a moderation system, where the changes would get saved to a table and the librarian could approve the changes with a click | |
| 19:32 | rangi | yep, that would be fine too |
| 19:34 | cait | yeah |
| 19:34 | sounds great | |
| 19:34 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7007] 490 not displaying without indicator 1 <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7007> |
| 19:34 | cait | could use the same table as for new users |
| 19:34 | preregistering | |
| 19:34 | on some terminal in the library | |
| 19:34 | rangi | ohh |
| 19:34 | yes or from home | |
| 19:35 | let ppl sign up from the opac | |
| 19:35 | then just come into the library with some id | |
| 19:35 | sometime | |
| 19:35 | * oleonard | was considering throwing some money at online library card signups |
| 19:35 | rangi | i think its all the same feature/bug |
| 19:35 | * cait | nods |
| 19:35 | cait | temp borrowers |
| 19:35 | data | |
| 19:36 | waiting for approval | |
| 19:36 | rangi | hmm bug 6598 |
| 19:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6598 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, REOPENED , OPACFineNoRenewals syspreference does not stop user renewing in opac |
| 19:36 | rangi | are we banking on js stopping a renewal? |
| 19:36 | cos if so | |
| 19:37 | we need a kick up the bum | |
| 19:37 | oleonard | No |
| 19:37 | rangi | the perl should block it too |
| 19:37 | phew | |
| 19:37 | oleonard | That was a red herring |
| 19:37 | rangi | the browser issue was a red herring? |
| 19:37 | great | |
| 19:37 | * rangi | stops rampaging :) |
| 19:37 | oleonard | My patch properly hides the renewal controls in cases where they should be blocked (if I got it right that is) |
| 19:38 | rangi | cool |
| 19:39 | oleonard | Come to think of it, why don't we send ONLY the fields which have changed when we send that email? |
| 19:39 | cait | oleonard: like it |
| 19:41 | kijanka | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6989 - can you tell me if that's proper sign off? |
| 19:41 | huginn | 04Bug 6989: minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Patron categories not properly displayed if not pure ASCII |
| 19:41 | rangi | it is indeed |
| 19:41 | all you need to do now | |
| 19:42 | is change the patch status to signed off | |
| 19:42 | kijanka | Should I repeat a bug desc in sign off? |
| 19:42 | rangi | its fine as it is |
| 19:42 | kijanka | Kk |
| 19:42 | How can I hide my mail in sign off message? | |
| 19:43 | rangi | on the bug? or on the patch? |
| 19:43 | you cant really do either | |
| 19:43 | it needs to be there | |
| 19:43 | kijanka | I don't feel iike getting more spam, and in that form (Signed-off-by: Piotr Wejman <ropuchbagno.be>) it's easy to harvest |
| 19:44 | Huh | |
| 19:44 | rangi | they could get it from git.koha-community.org |
| 19:44 | too | |
| 19:44 | kijanka | Then be it ;> |
| 19:45 | oleonard | kijanka: Or from Bugzilla |
| 19:45 | kijanka | rangi: yea, I've just thought the same ;> |
| 19:45 | rangi | im not sure that being harvested is such an issue now, they sell lists, if its been found once |
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| 19:45 | rangi | it's already too late |
| 19:45 | kijanka | So I'm doomed! |
| 19:45 | ;> | |
| 19:45 | rangi | yup :) |
| 19:45 | cait | hm haven't notices more spam really on my addresses |
| 19:45 | rangi | we all are |
| 19:45 | cait | good spam filter I guess |
| 19:46 | * jcamins | is definitely not receiving spam from his Koha commits. |
| 19:46 | * rangi | will fix that |
| 19:47 | kijanka | heheh |
| 19:47 | rangi | :) |
| 19:47 | oleonard | Include a link to the staff client edit screen in the update email if staffClientBaseURL system pref is populated? |
| 19:47 | kijanka | So, after sign off I should change bug status next? |
| 19:48 | cait | oleonard: +1 |
| 19:48 | kijanka: why the changed nick? :) | |
| 19:49 | ropuch | kijanka means tadpole |
| 19:49 | And ropuch means toad | |
| 19:49 | cait | oh |
| 19:49 | you are rejuvenating? | |
| 19:49 | ropuch | ;> |
| 19:49 | I was swicthing between 2 screens and was confused with ropuch_ and ropuch | |
| 19:50 | So I chnaged one nick to kijanka ;> | |
| 19:50 | *changed | |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | oh we have a kf and a cait thing |
| 19:50 | kijanka is ropuch | |
| 19:50 | ropuch is kijanka | |
| 19:50 | now wahanui will know ;) | |
| 19:51 | ropuch | ;> |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | ropuch? |
| 19:51 | wahanui | it has been said that ropuch is kijanka |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | there we have it |
| 19:53 | cait | oh right |
| 19:54 | that#s because my windows at work refuses to shut down lately... | |
| 19:54 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:54 | cait | ah |
| 19:54 | thought I had a double appearance right now :) | |
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| 20:01 | Oak | go to bed cait |
| 20:01 | kia ora #koha | |
| 20:01 | cait | oh |
| 20:01 | not another | |
| 20:01 | it's not that late | |
| 20:01 | Oak | how about trying 8 hour sleep for once |
| 20:01 | :) | |
| 20:02 | * cait | hides |
| 20:02 | jcamins | Oak: I heard that 8 hours of sleep a night is very healthy. :) |
| 20:02 | And leaves one feeling energized when s/he wakes up in the morning. :) | |
| 20:02 | Oak | @later tell Brooke very good movie this: The Private Lives of Pippa Lee http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1134629/ |
| 20:02 | huginn | Oak: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:03 | Oak | i know jcamins :) |
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| 20:03 | jcamins | Oak: I know you know. I was just commenting publicly. ;) |
| 20:03 | Oak | you hear cait what jcamins said? hmm? |
| 20:03 | jcamins | :) |
| 20:03 | cait | conspiracy! |
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| 20:05 | rangi | sup JesseM_ |
| 20:05 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7006] highlight patron changes in email <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7006> |
| 20:05 | ropuch | Sleeping more than 7,5 hours (max) makes me dizzy and sleepy again |
| 20:05 | Oak | okie, 1am here. me go now. to sleep. |
| 20:05 | \o | |
| 20:05 | oleonard | Look ma, no template changes! |
| 20:06 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:06 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 20:06 | * cait | puts it on her gigantic list |
| 20:26 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 20:26 | rangi | heya magnuse |
| 20:26 | wahanui | i guess magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 20:27 | magnuse | :-) |
| 20:27 | no pizza today | |
| 20:27 | * oleonard | will return... some day. |
| 20:27 | rangi | cya oleonard |
| 20:32 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 20:32 | magnuse | guten abend cait |
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| 20:39 | magnuse | kia ora jransom |
| 20:40 | cait | hi jransom :) |
| 20:41 | jransom | hiya |
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| 20:44 | jransom | so just confirming: Magnus and Caitlin: neither coming to kohacon11? |
| 20:44 | rangi | katrin :) |
| 20:44 | jransom | oh i kne that! |
| 20:44 | rangi | :) |
| 20:44 | jransom | thanks |
| 20:45 | rangi | im pretty sure thats right |
| 20:46 | jransom | bit sad about that .... have to cross fingers SCotland |
| 20:48 | cait | we will cross fingers too |
| 20:48 | jransom | :) |
| 20:49 | cait | sorry for not coming to India |
| 20:49 | hope all going will tweet and blog and chat | |
| 20:49 | jransom | hehe - can't do everything babe - and you got to NZ just the year prior so itsot really a surprise |
| 20:53 | magnuse | i'm not going to india either, sadly |
| 20:53 | jransom | I'm sorry to hear that to. |
| 20:54 | magnuse | but i will definitely be in edinburgh! and i'll try and bring as many cool norwegian library people as i can! |
| 20:54 | cait | :) |
| 20:54 | edinburgh! | |
| 20:54 | wahanui | edinburgh is cool - I have been there once when visiting friends in scotland :) |
| 20:54 | cait | and if I have to swim there |
| 20:54 | hehe | |
| 20:54 | oh wahanui | |
| 20:54 | forget edinburgh | |
| 20:54 | wahanui | cait: I forgot edinburgh |
| 20:55 | cait | those were my friends, not yours |
| 20:55 | jransom | lol |
| 20:55 | magnuse | hehe |
| 20:55 | jransom | wahanui is a bit silly sometimes |
| 20:55 | magnuse | a little bit |
| 20:56 | jransom: so when are you leaving for india? | |
| 20:57 | * liw | might show up in Edinburgh for KohaCon, given that he'll be living nearby |
| 20:58 | rangi | w00t |
| 20:59 | magnuse | cool! |
| 21:00 | then we can all give liw the praise he deserves for the work on the packages! | |
| 21:00 | rangi | and he can give a presentation on packaging things :) |
| 21:00 | liw | nah, keep praising eythian, he's the one doing all the work |
| 21:01 | cait | you can do the presentation together |
| 21:01 | so I get a chance to tease robin | |
| 21:01 | liw | I'd rather do 2 or 4 hours training session |
| 21:01 | cait | I only say germs |
| 21:02 | liw | i.e., something where participants make packages, instead of hearing me talk about how to make packages |
| 21:02 | rangi | ohh thats a good idea liw |
| 21:02 | part of the hackfest/dev conference | |
| 21:02 | magnuse | +1 |
| 21:02 | liw | rangi and eythian have been subjected to that training, iirc |
| 21:02 | rangi | it was very good |
| 21:03 | magnuse | yes please! |
| 21:03 | liw | then eythian can give a talk on what the current packages actually do for you, and what they can do but you need to know about to get them to do that |
| 21:04 | magnuse | yay |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | ok now i'm *really* sad I'm going to mis kohacon this year |
| 21:04 | liw | if he wants to, of course |
| 21:05 | cait | wizzyrea: we are actually planning for next year already |
| 21:05 | magnuse | wizzyrea: this is planning for next year, methinks? |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | ohhh |
| 21:05 | rangi | och aye |
| 21:05 | * magnuse | hopes slef is taking notes |
| 21:06 | liw | but afaik this is all premature planning, since the location hasn't been changed yet (I can't afford to go to Reno for KohaCon, alas) |
| 21:06 | rangi | oh its been decided |
| 21:06 | cait | edinburgh is for sure now |
| 21:06 | liw | ah |
| 21:06 | nice | |
| 21:06 | rangi | yep, it won the vote |
| 21:06 | cait | :) |
| 21:07 | liw | I thought the vote would end November 1 |
| 21:07 | rangi | october 1 |
| 21:07 | liw | I should perhaps not say this in a room full of librarians, but it might be possibly a good idea for me to learn to read some day |
| 21:07 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:08 | liw | is the date decided, then? |
| 21:09 | cait | no |
| 21:09 | liw | wiki says not yet, I'll hang out on the channel to learn about it |
| 21:09 | cait | I think they have to find a venue now and get bids |
| 21:09 | magnuse | yup |
| 21:10 | rangi | its sounding like june |
| 21:10 | but not actual dates yet | |
| 21:18 | handy | |
| 21:19 | http://danielmiessler.com/study/lsof/ | |
| 21:21 | magnuse | gotta catch some sleep - see ya folks! |
| 21:22 | jransom | I leave NZ on the 22nd and spending a wek in Goa before KohaCon |
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| 21:25 | rangi | oh cool |
| 21:26 | i leave on sunday | |
| 21:26 | for canada | |
| 21:27 | talljoy | i'm looking for help on distinguishing how match points work differently than match checks |
| 21:27 | help file has ??? | |
| 21:27 | rangi | no idea im afraid talljoy |
| 21:28 | jcamins | talljoy: what's the goal? |
| 21:28 | wahanui | rumour has it the goal is to be more useful, not less |
| 21:28 | * wizzyrea | imagines jransom raving on the beach in Goa |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | get yer glowsticke! |
| 21:31 | talljoy | i'm just trying to sort out how they work |
| 21:31 | i have a feeling i'm about to get asked.... | |
| 21:32 | it seems that match points offer point values on matching per tag/subfield. Match checks appear to allow matching on any fields (cross fields even 245 to 246) and are a strict yes/no. Essentially an override function. | |
| 21:32 | jcamins | talljoy: I could explain how they apply, but I'm not sure I could explain how to use them in advance. |
| 21:32 | That seems like a good explanation. | |
| 21:33 | talljoy | so following that logic...if matchpoint offer success on matching, but a match check fails....then it is not considered a match. |
| 21:33 | jcamins | Right. |
| 21:34 | talljoy | i'll go with that then. may try testing a few items to be sure. |
| 21:34 | thanks jcamins | |
| 21:34 | jcamins | Probably wise. |
| 21:34 | You're welcome. | |
| 21:35 | cait | I think th scores make a difference too? |
| 21:35 | jcamins | Oh, yes, good point! |
| 21:35 | talljoy | on match points they do. But do the matchchecks override points with a final yes/no? |
| 21:35 | cait | so you rate how important a single match check in a matching rule is |
| 21:35 | talljoy | there is no score in matchchecks |
| 21:35 | cait | ok |
| 21:35 | I got confused | |
| 21:36 | talljoy | apparently it is confusing....:-) i still don't know for sure. |
| 21:37 | jransom | @wizzyrea someone told brooke to watch out for drunk Europeans on the beach in Goa - she replied what! we'll BE the drunk Europeans ... |
| 21:37 | huginn | jransom: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | jransom: spectacular |
| 21:57 | jransom | well hopefully not spectacular (m leaving the bikini at home) but it should be very cool. We are staying in old Goa well away from party central (because we are ladies of a certain age after all) |
| 21:59 | rangi | pshaw |
| 21:59 | ive been to librarian parties | |
| 21:59 | you guys are CRAZY! | |
| 21:59 | jransom | hehe - only coz there tend to be few men around and e can let rip |
| 22:01 | rangi | hehe |
| 22:01 | cait | :) |
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| 22:07 | jcamins | Is Liberty an ILS? |
| 22:09 | eythian | yeah |
| 22:09 | jcamins | How miserable would it make me to work with it? |
| 22:10 | eythian | jcamins: I've never used it, but from what I've heard, terribly |
| 22:10 | cait | good night all :) |
| 22:10 | jcamins | I had a feeling. |
| 22:10 | eythian | hi cait |
| 22:10 | bye cait | |
| 22:10 | cait | hi eythian, bye eythian :) |
| 22:10 | rangi | cya cait |
| 22:10 | eythian | I've spent a lot of time moving people off of liberty and onto koha. |
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| 22:10 | rangi | yeah, we should send them a thank you card |
| 22:10 | eythian | In fact, I'm doing such a migration now. |
| 22:11 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 22:12 | That's unfortunate. | |
| 22:12 | eythian | all librarians I've talked to have been really happy with the change. |
| 22:12 | jcamins | I mean, good for Koha, not so good for my chances of not going crazy if I have to work with Liberty. |
| 22:12 | eythian | heh |
| 22:12 | you could migrate them to koha | |
| 22:12 | we can help :D | |
| 22:13 | where is this, btw. I didn't think liberty had much presence outside NZ/AU | |
| 22:13 | jcamins | New York/London. |
| 22:14 | eythian | huh, surprising. |
| 23:35 | Callender joined #koha |
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