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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:01 | mtj | bah, iSteve has died ?!? |
| 00:02 | wizzyrea | ya |
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| 00:05 | Judit joined #koha | |
| 00:05 | Judit | hi |
| 00:05 | wahanui | hi, Judit |
| 00:06 | Judit | http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/ |
| 00:06 | is this an old news? | |
| 00:08 | wizzyrea | no maam |
| 00:08 | just happened | |
| 00:08 | today | |
| 00:10 | rangi | wow |
| 00:11 | ibeardslee | rangi: doesn't follow #catalyst does he? |
| 00:11 | rangi | nope |
| 00:11 | aka #trollytrolltrolltrollers | |
| 00:12 | Judit | he was a kinda asshole, but he was a genius |
| 00:12 | rangi | *nod* |
| 00:12 | ibeardslee | yup |
| 00:12 | wizzyrea | ya |
| 00:13 | when iphone was the only touchscreen smartphone, I had one - it was revolutionary. | |
| 00:13 | ibeardslee | same here |
| 00:13 | wizzyrea | i know that my android phone would not be what it is without the influence of the iphone |
| 00:13 | so for that I am grateful. | |
| 00:13 | same with my android tablet | |
| 00:13 | though I never had an iPad | |
| 00:14 | Judit | yeah he changed the world |
| 00:14 | ibeardslee | wizzyrea: I think mainly because of the "see it can be done" |
| 00:14 | wizzyrea | ^^ this, yes |
| 00:15 | mtj | yeah, apples stuff mostly 'just worked' |
| 00:15 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 00:15 | eythian | wizzyrea: the iphone was never the only touchscreen phone, their marketing just made you think that |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | naw, it was the only one that worked properly |
| 00:16 | the rest -- you wouldn't want to use it | |
| 00:16 | mtj | i wasted a decade using MS crapware, that sometimes worked |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | I know it wasn't the only touchscreen smart phone |
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| 01:05 | novice | Hello everyone, I have a question about MARC record import, the Author's name is not a mandatory field and therefore when a MARC record is imported into the library, the author's name does not come across (even when typed in). How can I make it mandatory? |
| 01:06 | jcamins | novice: I think you have a different problem, because whether or not a field is mandatory has nothing to do with it being imported. |
| 01:06 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 01:06 | you type too fast. :) | |
| 01:07 | jcamins | In fact, if you made the author mandatory, it would cause you very big problems as soon as you had a work with a corporate author. |
| 01:07 | Or a work with no author at all. | |
| 01:08 | novice | Ok thanks, so you are saying that the best practice is not to have the Author field mandatory? |
| 01:08 | jcamins | That is correct. |
| 01:08 | novice | Great, thanks for the info. |
| 01:09 | jcamins | As for why you don't have the author appearing after importing records, are you sure your old system is exporting real MARC? |
| 01:09 | wizzyrea | uh, for the record: i'm totally cool shepherding circulation |
| 01:09 | in re: to the meeting this morning | |
| 01:11 | jcamins | What? |
| 01:11 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6974] MARC21 Leader plugin no longer auto-fills the 000 field <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6974> |
| 01:13 | wizzyrea | swapping out the bugzilla default asignees |
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| 01:20 | mtj | hey, i'm very happy we managed to get a perltidy style accepted |
| 01:20 | eythian | what was it in the end? |
| 01:21 | mtj | i thought stupidity might win, for a bit there... but no :) |
| 01:21 | larry-wall style | |
| 01:21 | eythian | oh good, second best to pbp imo. |
| 01:21 | mostly because it's very similar. | |
| 01:21 | mtj | aka perltidy -nopro |
| 01:21 | eythian | that's the default for perltidy with no options? |
| 01:21 | ah | |
| 01:22 | mtj | yeah.. ill take that as a win, too ;) |
| 01:22 | yep | |
| 01:22 | eythian | and actually is relevant to perl, that's a definite thing going for it, too. |
| 01:25 | mtj | ... now we get to discuss who/when/why old code gets tidyfied |
| 01:26 | eythian | I think that just tidying a block as you work on it is best, avoids messing up git history everywhere. |
| 01:26 | using the vim bindings, it's pretty quick and easy. | |
| 01:27 | mtj | yeah, i agree on that 'safe' option |
| 01:27 | * rangi | too |
| 01:28 | eythian | also, to do everything you'd have to have a commit freeze, or everyone would have a billion conflicts. |
| 01:28 | mtj | people just need to learn how to get perltidy to clean selected-blocks, on their editor |
| 01:29 | using perltidy always removes stupid whitespace junk, from files too | |
| 01:30 | wizzyrea | mtj: if you write a wiki page of recommendations, that might help |
| 01:30 | that way we can point people to it | |
| 01:30 | eythian | wizzyrea: already done |
| 01:30 | wizzyrea | oh |
| 01:30 | right sorry | |
| 01:30 | mtj | oops, using perltidy removes whitespace errors too |
| 01:30 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Vim <-- at least, a start |
| 01:31 | wizzyrea | well and I knew that there were coding guidelines |
| 01:31 | is that doc still relevant? | |
| 01:31 | jcamins | eythian: that might cause a bit of debate. |
| 01:31 | eythian | probably not really |
| 01:31 | jcamins: naw, it's all true | |
| 01:32 | * jcamins | agrees with you, of course. |
| 01:32 | eythian | it's also objective. It says so. |
| 01:32 | rangi | i fixed it |
| 01:32 | * eythian | tends to tidy a block before he starts working on it, it reduces chances of making mistakes due to bad indenting. |
| 01:33 | rangi | now covers all cases |
| 01:33 | eythian | you made it subjective! shame on you! |
| 01:33 | rangi | hehe |
| 01:38 | you ppl all know about | |
| 01:38 | git show --word-diff=color | |
| 01:38 | eh? | |
| 01:38 | jcamins | No, what's it do? |
| 01:38 | rangi | try it :) |
| 01:38 | its cool | |
| 01:38 | makes reading diffs a lot easier | |
| 01:39 | git diff --word-diff-color works too of course | |
| 01:39 | eythian | that is pretty nice |
| 01:39 | rangi | yup |
| 01:39 | eythian | it's all christmasy |
| 01:39 | rangi | heh |
| 01:39 | its good for finding what actually changed | |
| 01:39 | jcamins | Hm. I wonder why it doesn't work on this other VM. |
| 01:39 | rangi | when all that changed was one letter |
| 01:39 | old git maybe | |
| 01:40 | jcamins | Right you are. |
| 01:40 | :) | |
| 01:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6975: OPACBaseurl instead of OPACBaseURL <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1756e68d2558c59f2> |
| 01:53 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 455 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 02:02 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 02:02 | rangi | hey bus driver |
| 02:02 | * Brooke | laughs. |
| 02:02 | is sorely tempted to draw up pools based on Release Rolls. | |
| 02:02 | eythian | pedestrians are even less safe! |
| 02:03 | Brooke | argh roles. |
| 02:09 | England France? | |
| 02:09 | also | |
| 02:09 | Wales Éireann? | |
| 02:09 | rangi | england |
| 02:09 | wales | |
| 02:09 | Brooke | chur ya think? |
| 02:10 | rangi | unless france suddenly stop hating each other and decide to play as a team |
| 02:10 | Brooke | it has been known to happen |
| 02:11 | I think the Boks might lose to the West Islanders, but the Oirish could best em, so who knows... | |
| 02:12 | rangi | depends, the aussie forwards are hopeless |
| 02:12 | i mean the US scored a try, from a scrum | |
| 02:12 | Brooke | crouch |
| 02:12 | touch | |
| 02:12 | pause | |
| 02:12 | ENGAGE | |
| 02:12 | rangi | if the boks play it tight and smash up the middle |
| 02:13 | they'll win | |
| 02:13 | thats how england will beat france too | |
| 02:13 | * Brooke | crosses ye olde fingers. |
| 02:13 | rangi | boring rugby |
| 02:13 | but effective | |
| 02:15 | Brooke | I think I might be forced to go to a pub for Cymru Éireann |
| 02:28 | mtj | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Perltidy |
| 02:28 | read ok? | |
| 02:29 | eythian | npro, not nopro |
| 02:29 | according to the man page | |
| 02:30 | maybe also add "...unless it's really terrible" to the bit about not refactoring other code :) | |
| 02:30 | mtj | ta |
| 02:31 | eythian, um yeah, ok :) | |
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| 02:32 | mtj | i'm the 1st person *itching* to tidy all that terrible terrible wonky code :p |
| 02:33 | eythian | heh |
| 02:35 | * Brooke | is tempted to crash the party that is surely happening in someone else's flat... |
| 02:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #455: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/455/ |
| 02:40 | ian.walls: Bug 6975: OPACBaseurl instead of OPACBaseURL | |
| 02:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6975 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, NEW , OPACBaseURL called as OPACBaseurl in many templates |
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| 03:07 | eythian | hmm found one default perltidy thing I don't like: two-space indents when continuing a statement on the next line. |
| 03:09 | jcamins | eythian: what would you do instead? |
| 03:09 | eythian | 4-space indents |
| 03:10 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 03:35 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5459] merging records loses holds from one <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5459> |
| 03:41 | * eythian | gets to reformat a whole file as its indenting was so bad it was causing bugs. |
| 03:44 | jcamins | The _indenting_ was causing bugs? |
| 03:45 | Which file? | |
| 03:45 | eythian | jcamins: opac-sendshelf.pl |
| 03:45 | jcamins | Ah. Haven't had the misfortune of looking at that one. |
| 03:45 | eythian | not the indenting specifically, but the whole middle chunk is supposed to be indented by a level and isn't |
| 03:46 | so I wasn't sure why there was another block at the bottom, and deleted it as it didn't make sense. | |
| 03:46 | So the indenting made me make bugs :) | |
| 03:47 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 04:01 | wajasu | indenting makes people do funny things |
| 04:06 | ibeardslee | eg python |
| 04:08 | eythian | heh |
| 04:08 | funny cos it's true | |
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| 05:04 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:05 | fa | hello, tell me if can I put Koha in the usual hosting server? |
| 05:06 | cait | fa: usual web hosting will not work I think, you need a server |
| 05:07 | you will need to be able to use perl, mysql, cronjobs... | |
| 05:08 | fa | I do not have enough money to hire experts, if you can show the way to do it. thanks |
| 05:12 | cait | there are lots of manuals on the wiki and in koha |
| 05:12 | I can't do better than that | |
| 05:12 | if you download koha look out for the INSTALL*files that come with it | |
| 05:14 | fa | thanks a lot cait! |
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| 05:25 | rangi | hi cait |
| 05:25 | cait | hi rangi :) |
| 05:25 | bg | heya ciat |
| 05:25 | AHH | |
| 05:25 | cait: | |
| 05:25 | heh | |
| 05:25 | cait | hi bg :) |
| 05:26 | * bg | types too fast |
| 05:26 | cait | np |
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| 05:49 | ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 05:52 | cait | morning ropuch :) |
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| 06:02 | ropuch | cait: I'm not sure, but I remeber 3rd action to chose when uploading .po file to pootle |
| 06:03 | cait | a merge thing? |
| 06:03 | ropuch | Rather something like overwrite |
| 06:03 | cait | I think fredericd says it kills pootle because our files are too big |
| 06:03 | ah | |
| 06:03 | it#s a permission thing I think | |
| 06:03 | perhaps ask fredericd about it | |
| 06:03 | I have no access to give you rights | |
| 06:03 | ropuch | So you have the right for german translation? |
| 06:04 | Yea, I know, just wasn;t sure if I just imnagined it being there | |
| 06:05 | I've spend couple of ours correcting fuzzy translation i polish and - without "overwrite" option | |
| 06:06 | I just don;t feel like sspending even more hours going over my corrected terms and aproving them, as they are now showed as suggestion ;> | |
| 06:08 | cait | I will check |
| 06:09 | I can do overwrite | |
| 06:09 | merge | |
| 06:09 | and add all new as suggestions | |
| 06:09 | ropuch | Ha! |
| 06:10 | So I remeber it right - i had overwrite permission earlier | |
| 06:15 | cait: so fredericd is the one to bother about pootle permissions? | |
| 06:15 | cait | he is current and new translation manager |
| 06:15 | you can write to the koha-translate mailing list | |
| 06:15 | ropuch | I will |
| 06:18 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:18 | eythian still around? | |
| 06:19 | alex_a | hello #koha |
| 06:19 | ropuch | Hi magnuse, alex_a |
| 06:19 | magnuse | hiya alex_a and ropuch |
| 06:19 | mtj | hah, i had a chuckle at the 'Non-technical questions' mail thread... |
| 06:19 | magnuse | :-) |
| 06:19 | alex_a | hi ropuch, magnuse :) |
| 06:20 | cait | cookies! |
| 06:20 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 06:25 | ropuch | Oh, 'non-technical' still alive? ;> |
| 06:26 | cait | wahanui botsnack cookies |
| 06:26 | wahanui | thanks cait :) |
| 06:27 | mtj | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]se-td4873696.html |
| 06:36 | magnuse | mtj++ # for perltidy info on the wiki |
| 06:38 | cait | mtj++ |
| 06:40 | mtj | next to update the file... |
| 06:40 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b;f=xt/perltidyrc | |
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| 06:45 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:47 | rangi | hi reiveune |
| 06:48 | cait | hi reiveune |
| 06:48 | magnuse | hi reiveune |
| 06:48 | reiveune | hi rangi, hi cait |
| 06:48 | hi magnuse | |
| 06:48 | wajasu | i'm trying to ascertain if there is something up with my barcode label printing. could someone search for a author Jürgen and print a barcode label to pdf. then using a hex editor (or od -x -c the.pdf | less) see if the ü is C3BC or F9? |
| 06:49 | oh, and whether the label showed ü or two other characters instead. | |
| 06:51 | i do: select author,HEX(author),CHAR_LENGTH(author) from biblio where HEX(author) | |
| 06:51 | like '3BC%'; to see lines like: Moltmann, Jürgen. | 4D6F6C746D616E6E2C204AC3BC7267656E2E | 17 | |
| 06:51 | in the DB. | |
| 06:54 | So currently i see C3BC in the labels, and get two characters in my PDF. Is that what others get? C3BC in the PDF? or do you get F9, which maps to the latin1 ü just fine. | |
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| 06:57 | wajasu | is what I've described in Bug2246 not really exists for others? |
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| 07:10 | magnuse | kia ora hdl and paul_p |
| 07:11 | paul_p | hello magnuse |
| 07:12 | christophe_c | hello all |
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| 07:19 | marcelr | morning koha |
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| 07:22 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:22 | wahanui | salut, julian_m |
| 07:22 | julian_m | hi wahanui |
| 07:22 | wahanui | salut, julian_m |
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| 07:24 | paul_p | hi marcelr & welcome to the Koha team as QA assistant ! |
| 07:24 | clrh_ | hello |
| 07:24 | marcelr | hi paul_P |
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| 07:26 | hdl | thanks for your involvement. |
| 07:26 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:26 | marcelr | hi kf |
| 07:27 | kf | hi marcelr :) |
| 07:27 | alex_a | kf: o/ |
| 07:27 | kf | and hi alex_a :) |
| 07:27 | alex_a | :) |
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| 10:05 | magnuse | bugzilla down? |
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| 10:14 | sophie_m1 | it works for me magnuse |
| 10:15 | magnuse | for me too, thanks |
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| 10:25 | kf | hi magnuse :) |
| 10:25 | magnuse | guten tag kf |
| 10:32 | it's on! (in kiribati) http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day | |
| 10:35 | ropuch | So bug squashing officialy started 35 minutes ago? ;> |
| 10:37 | magnuse | nah, it's a never ending quest, of course... |
| 10:37 | but gbsd started 38 minutes ago | |
| 10:38 | ropuch | I mean gbsd of course ;> |
| 10:38 | magnuse | ;-) |
| 10:39 | well, it's October 7th in the timezone of your choice, and if you choose kiribati it started 40 minutes ago, to be precise | |
| 10:48 | * kf | cheers |
| 10:50 | magnuse | @later tell wizzyrea: can you add owen as bug wrangler here? http://koha-community.org/koha[…]ase-team-elected/ |
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| 10:51 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 10:52 | magnuse | \o |
| 10:52 | ropuch | \o/ |
| 10:52 | magnuse | oh no, where's huginn? |
| 10:52 | Brooke | God morgen. |
| 10:54 | kf | vacation? |
| 10:54 | hi Brooke | |
| 10:54 | Brooke | guten morgen! |
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| 11:05 | Brooke | ahoy sekjal |
| 11:05 | sekjal | howdy, Brooke |
| 11:06 | magnuse | kia ora sekjal |
| 11:06 | kf | hi sekjal :) |
| 11:07 | sekjal | kia ore, magnuse kf |
| 11:10 | Brooke | http://www.ukindia.com/zhin001.htm |
| 11:17 | ropuch | Closely reminds me of my sanskrit courses ;> |
| 11:17 | Brooke | it should |
| 11:17 | some of it is the same :) | |
| 11:17 | ropuch | Yup |
| 11:18 | It's been so long time ago I hardly remember anything | |
| 11:18 | Brooke | you prolly have the same issues I have with Italian occasionally. |
| 11:18 | I bet you remember half the alphabet at least | |
| 11:18 | which is much better than me :D | |
| 11:18 | ropuch | I'm not so sure ;> |
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| 11:23 | Brooke | 0/ |
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| 11:54 | * chris_n | nearly has koha from master running on win32 again, fwiw |
| 11:54 | Brooke | noice |
| 11:55 | chris_n | a few changes and it "should" be a simple as doing an install on *nix |
| 11:55 | well | |
| 11:55 | almost | |
| 11:56 | jcamins_away | That would be impressive. |
| 11:57 | kf | yes :) |
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| 11:59 | Brooke | nengard |
| 11:59 | nengard | Brooke |
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| 12:20 | paul_p | sekjal: around ? |
| 12:20 | sekjal | paul_p: yes |
| 12:21 | paul_p | sekjal: I don't understand = "Only two trivial bugs that are signed off right now:". I see 71 bugs signed-off & waiting QA ! |
| 12:21 | sekjal | yes, but only two of those are marked 'trivial' |
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| 12:22 | paul_p | well, some are not marked trivial but are in fact |
| 12:23 | sekjal | ah |
| 12:23 | I was being literal | |
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| 12:23 | sekjal | :) |
| 12:24 | paul_p | for example 6076 |
| 12:24 | the patch is trivial, but it fixes a "normal" bug | |
| 12:24 | kf | bug 6076 |
| 12:25 | nengard | is there a bug report for the item barcode not incrementing anymore? or is it just my system? |
| 12:25 | kf | hm no wahanui? |
| 12:25 | nengard: I think there were some fixed about that - I have seen problesm with branchcode + incremented value | |
| 12:25 | and I think the plugins in serials have problems | |
| 12:25 | * paul_p | is a fan of "git bz" ! |
| 12:25 | sekjal | paul_p: yup, that looks pretty straight forward |
| 12:26 | paul_p | very handy to test a patch ! |
| 12:26 | sekjal | marking as Passed QA |
| 12:26 | nengard | love git bz!! |
| 12:26 | oleonard | It's huginn we're missing |
| 12:26 | nengard | kf, i'm on master as of 3 min ago ? but it's still not working |
| 12:26 | any idea on the bug number? | |
| 12:27 | oleonard | huginn left and took gmcharlt with him (or perhaps vice versa) |
| 12:27 | kf | git_bz++ |
| 12:27 | nengard: hmm. let me check | |
| 12:27 | magnuse | @karma git_bz |
| 12:27 | gah | |
| 12:27 | * kf | misses huginn so much |
| 12:28 | oleonard | Now we know what it will feel like after the robot rebellion |
| 12:28 | magnuse | ouch |
| 12:29 | sekjal | oleonard: got a proposed patch from Srdjan on bug 6974 |
| 12:29 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6974 | |
| 12:29 | oleonard | Yup, testing now |
| 12:30 | sekjal | cool; logically, it does what my testing did, so I think it'll work |
| 12:30 | kf | nengard: try a search for ALL autobarcode in bugzila |
| 12:30 | oleonard | sekjal: it's clear that the auto-fill works again on blank records. Anything else you think I should check? Side-effects? |
| 12:30 | kf | 5659 looks like my candidate |
| 12:30 | nengard | wooo hoooo |
| 12:30 | bug 5459 signed off finally :) | |
| 12:30 | sekjal go to QAing it :) hehe | |
| 12:31 | thanks kf | |
| 12:32 | sekjal | oleonard: do updates to the leader save correctly? |
| 12:33 | that may be independent of this particular fix, but it'd be worth noting | |
| 12:34 | nengard | kf, i don't have branchcode on my barcode ? i'm going to report a new bug |
| 12:35 | kf bug 6981 | |
| 12:36 | for those on facebook - who love dogs: http://www.facebook.com/nengar[…]s/132289780205791 | |
| 12:36 | :) | |
| 12:38 | sekjal | 5459 looks good (reading the code) |
| 12:38 | could be improved when we finally get reservenumber primary key added to the table, but until then, uses the best logic we have | |
| 12:39 | nengard | and has ben tested like 8 times :) |
| 12:42 | magnuse | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6953 is a real simple one, just adding one character and only affects normarc, hint, hint ;-) |
| 12:44 | sekjal | magnuse: 6953 passed QA |
| 12:44 | magnuse | yay, thanks sekjal! |
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| 12:46 | sekjal | oleonard: thanks for test 6974. passed QA |
| 12:49 | Topic for #koha is now Global Bug Squashing Day is underway: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day | Koha 3.4.5 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 5 October 2011 at 10:00 UTC | |
| 12:49 | nengard | bug 6210 signed off |
| 12:50 | how do we get huginn back? | |
| 12:50 | oleonard | Find gmcharlt I think |
| 12:53 | sekjal | I think 5459 may have yet another issue |
| 12:58 | nengard | no no no :( |
| 12:59 | sekjal | testing now |
| 12:59 | oleonard | I sent gmcharlt a briefcase of unmarked bills |
| 12:59 | sekjal | but, if a borrower happens to have a hold on both records being merged together.... |
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| 13:01 | paul_p | is it me or bugzilla must be freed like huginn ? |
| 13:01 | gmcharlt | paul_p: it's also running on a linode .. so possible |
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| 13:02 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 13:02 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #153: "<rangi> merging code in git doesn't make me angry, I just think back to svn and cvs, and git could punch me in the face and it would still be better" (added by gmcharlt at 07:49 PM, September 13, 2011) |
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| 13:04 | sekjal | nengard: the merge works even if a borrower's got a hold on both titles |
| 13:04 | however | |
| 13:04 | nengard | WOO HOO |
| 13:04 | that was one test i didn't do | |
| 13:04 | sekjal | the holds list for that title will have weirdness if a borrower is on there twice |
| 13:05 | (borrowernumber, biblionumber) is the only key we've got | |
| 13:05 | gmcharlt | paul_p: I checked, bugzilla works for me |
| 13:05 | sekjal | and if that's duplicated.... kaboom |
| 13:05 | gmcharlt | does is still not work for you? |
| 13:05 | paul_p | gmcharlt: ok, works |
| 13:05 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 13:06 | oleonard: negotiations have successfully concluded | |
| 13:06 | oleonard | You're a regular Kevin Spacey gmcharlt. |
| 13:07 | nengard | sekjal so it fails? |
| 13:07 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6466] hung socket read causes SIP tests to fail <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6466> / [Bug 6817] In overdue.pl, downloading the overdues as a file ignores the filters if the page isn't in english. <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6817> / [Bug 6977] Support for repeated subfields when importing an authority into a biblio record field. <http://bugs.koha-community.o |
| 13:07 | sekjal | nengard: hmm... I can't seem to produce a kaboom by perturbing the list order |
| 13:07 | nengard | :) that's a good thing ? right? |
| 13:07 | sekjal | yes, that's good |
| 13:07 | will try filling some holds, see how that affects it | |
| 13:07 | nengard | k |
| 13:07 | i tested with item level holds and next available holds | |
| 13:08 | and hols that are waiting and in transit | |
| 13:08 | brb | |
| 13:09 | linux experts, is there a way to set up my debian VM to get the right date and time everytime it restarts? automatically? | |
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| 13:10 | * oleonard | would think it would already be configured to do so automatically... |
| 13:11 | is not being helpful, is just muttering | |
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| 13:11 | sekjal | nengard: marking a hold as 'waiting' with multiple borrowers entries is a bit problematic |
| 13:12 | gmcharlt | nengard: ntpd |
| 13:12 | sekjal | gmcharlt (or anyone else): how about running a VM in accelerated time? |
| 13:13 | so one hour in the real world is a day on the VM's clock | |
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| 13:14 | oleonard | Gotta Inception up that VM |
| 13:14 | gmcharlt | nengard: to expand, 'sudo apt-get install openntpd' will do what you want |
| 13:15 | sekjal: serious question? I suppose advancing the system clock with a cronjob could simulate it, at least roughly | |
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| 13:17 | sekjal | gmcharlt: yes, serious. I want to run usage simulations, but I'm impatient |
| 13:17 | I'd like to be able to collect a year's worth of simulated data in a less than year | |
| 13:17 | perferrably much less | |
| 13:17 | nengard | thanks gmcharlt trying now |
| 13:18 | gmcharlt "Package openntpd is not available, but is referred to by another package." | |
| 13:22 | gmcharlt | nengard: try an apt-get update, then the apt-get install openntpd |
| 13:22 | also, which version of Debian? | |
| 13:23 | nengard | i know i should know that ? |
| 13:23 | how do i find out? | |
| 13:23 | gmcharlt | /etc/debian_version will tell |
| 13:23 | nengard | 6.0 |
| 13:24 | after an update it still gives me the same error message | |
| 13:25 | gmcharlt | sekjal: http://www.virtualbox.org/manu[…]09.html#warpguest looks interesting |
| 13:26 | oleonard | sekjal: Your other option is to leave your VM on Earth and accelerate away at near the speed of light |
| 13:27 | nengard | :) |
| 13:27 | gmcharlt | Koha ... In ... Spaaaaaace! |
| 13:27 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6616] Move common table pager markup to include <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6616> |
| 13:27 | sekjal | NateC? |
| 13:27 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 13:27 | nengard | LOL |
| 13:28 | NateC | HA |
| 13:28 | well, I do :) | |
| 13:28 | nengard | better be more than like!! |
| 13:29 | NateC | your right I love space :) |
| 13:29 | nengard | oooooo |
| 13:29 | you're in trouble ;) | |
| 13:29 | NateC | bahahhahah |
| 13:29 | nengard | I'm gonna tell!! |
| 13:29 | NateC | and I LOVE MY WIFE |
| 13:29 | nengard | there you go |
| 13:30 | now i have to open the door for coda cause she doesn't seem to understand that mommy doesn't like her fingers to freeze off!!! | |
| 13:30 | brb | |
| 13:30 | gmcharlt - any other idaes on my time thing? | |
| 13:31 | sekjal | gmcharlt: that looks like a good starting place, thank you! |
| 13:31 | gmcharlt | nengard: couple things |
| 13:31 | first, see if your /etc/apt/sources.list contains backports | |
| 13:31 | e.g., a line like this | |
| 13:31 | deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main | |
| 13:31 | if it doesn't, add it, then do an apt-get update | |
| 13:32 | if that does help, an alternative to to apt-get install chrony | |
| 13:32 | sekjal: glad to help - looks like the term to google if you're using another host would be "time warp", believe it or not | |
| 13:33 | nengard | no backports |
| 13:33 | and i did do the update | |
| 13:33 | let me do it one more time | |
| 13:33 | * oleonard | votes to pass 5459 |
| 13:33 | Danielle | \0 |
| 13:33 | nengard | +1 |
| 13:33 | gmcharlt chrony is working | |
| 13:33 | :) | |
| 13:34 | thanks! | |
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| 13:48 | wajasu | can someone verify the behavior of diacritics not printing in barcode labels as I am trying to understand if its only true for my system. see bug 2246 comment 16. it seems to work for kf, but not for me unless i apply my patch. |
| 13:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2246 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Label printing doesn't work with Unicode characters |
| 13:49 | kf | wajasu: I am not sure when i fill find time to test - i am sorry |
| 13:49 | have you tried creating a new record and printing that? | |
| 13:49 | perhaps copying umlauts from wikipedia or somewhere else? | |
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| 13:56 | druthb | o/ |
| 13:57 | * druthb | is hoping for a jQuery god or goddess: On the main Authorities screen, one site wants to default that to "search main heading". I've tried using .addClass/.removeClass, but it doesn't appear to be working. Anyone played with that one? |
| 14:00 | kf | hmmm |
| 14:00 | druthb: how urgent do you need it? | |
| 14:01 | druthb | They're not freaking about it, but would like to get it done and off my plate. |
| 14:01 | kf | tonight ok? |
| 14:01 | druthb | oh, absolutely! |
| 14:06 | gmcharlt | druthb: .removeAttr/.attr ? |
| 14:06 | the selected attribute is, well, an attribute, not a class | |
| 14:06 | druthb | oh-hoh. |
| 14:07 | Tried this, and that doesn't fly, either: | |
| 14:07 | $("#authority_search").attr("ui-tabs-hide"); | |
| 14:07 | $("#main_heading").removeAttr("ui-tabs-hide"); | |
| 14:07 | oleonard | You can also say $('#header_search > ul').tabs('select', 1); , but then you have to figure out how to only trigger it on that page |
| 14:08 | gmcharlt | doh, /me was looking at the wrong thig |
| 14:09 | oleonard | if($("#authority_search").length > 0){ |
| 14:09 | $('#header_search > ul').tabs('select', 1); | |
| 14:09 | } | |
| 14:10 | druthb | That's got it! |
| 14:10 | oleonard++ | |
| 14:10 | gmcharlt | oleonard++ |
| 14:11 | kf | oleonard++ :) |
| 14:11 | oleonard | Working with the tabs is tricky because it's an old jqueryUI version. They seemed to change the syntax for that with every upgrade for a while |
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| 14:22 | wajasu | kf: i created a new book with Jürgen in the author field and printed the barcode label and got two chars. no umlaut. |
| 14:22 | kf | hm |
| 14:23 | weird | |
| 14:37 | wajasu | maybe its a mysql setting or perl thing. my only option is to set up a vm with debian and compare. i'm interested in knowing if your mysql db has C3BC in the author field as comment 16 mentioned. |
| 14:38 | it might just be that i'm running on archlinux and something in the character food chain is gumming up the works. | |
| 14:39 | kf | wajasu: I am not sure how this can be tested |
| 14:39 | and I am really short on time this week | |
| 14:42 | * oleonard | hates configuring Apache so much... So many places for something to go wrong... |
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| 14:56 | * wizzyrea | got distracted looking at the quotes generated by bugzilla |
| 15:03 | * druthb | waves to wizzyrea! |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | hi druthb :D |
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| 15:41 | JoeLib001 | I am trying to add a local subject in the 690 field, but the a field is locked. Anyone know what I should be doinng? |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | you probably have an authority on for it? |
| 15:44 | JoeLib001 | I hate to sound totally inept, but I really don't know. :-) |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | naw, not inept :) |
| 15:44 | lemme see if I can find the proper bit of the docs... sec | |
| 15:45 | cait | wizzyrea: rangi fixed the blog entry |
| 15:45 | in case you wondered :) | |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 15:45 | ok | |
| 15:45 | i guess I didn't know what was broken about it | |
| 15:47 | JoeLib001 | I have a list of subjects that I need to assign to each of my records. Should I be creating an authority record for each subject? |
| 15:49 | nengard | when is the string freeze? |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | 8th |
| 15:49 | nengard | aka how long do i have to write help files ?. OH CRAP |
| 15:49 | okay | |
| 15:49 | will get it done this week then | |
| 15:50 | ropuch | wizzyrea: what time zone is this 8th? ;> |
| 15:50 | nengard | making good progress |
| 15:50 | JoeLib001 | They are not standard subjects as far as I can tell. I will be pulling from them to create an alphabetical list by subject of my collection. I am in the process of moving our Serials from EOS Glas to Koha and that is one of the things I am supposed to make functional. |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | it ends when the last time zone leaves the 8th ;) |
| 15:50 | ropuch | wizzyrea: kk |
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| 15:52 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:56 | JoeLib001 | I found this statement. "In order for a cataloger to be able to add or edit a heading in the bib |
| 15:56 | record without being *required* to open a popup window for each | |
| 15:56 | heading, BiblioAddsAuthorities must be turned on." Would that mean it would remove the lock and let me add the subjects I want? | |
| 15:57 | wizzyrea | that or you need to modify your framework to make sure the 690 field doesn't require authority |
| 15:57 | sorry to be so in and out - i'm at a workshop today | |
| 15:57 | ropuch | How can I properly view manual.xml from kohadocs? |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | you mean, how to edit it? |
| 15:58 | it's in docbook format | |
| 15:58 | so you'd probably want a docbook editor | |
| 15:58 | there are some open source ones | |
| 16:03 | JoeLib001 | Awesome! :-) Thanks wizzyrea. I edited the Framework and changed TOPIC_TERM to nothing in the Thesauras option for the 690 field. |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | yay! |
| 16:04 | oleonard | paul_p: Université de Limoges is using a custom template? They need to duplicate it for English speakers too! |
| 16:04 | ropuch | wizzyrea: and then I need to generate some html-or-whatever from the xml to see "readable" version of manual? |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | right |
| 16:04 | paul_p | hi oleonard, yep, they have a fully customised/local set of templates. We've explained the pain they'll face, they are ready to face it ! |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | there's a linux tool docbook2html |
| 16:05 | nengard | ropuch can you not read the manual that's online in HTML already? |
| 16:05 | ropuch | Oh, sure I can |
| 16:05 | paul_p | & i'm not sure they're interested in translating into english. Limoges is a small city, a small university, maybe they don't have english native students. |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | oleonard - link? |
| 16:05 | ropuch | nengard: I'm thinking about translating some parts of it, so i reached for the source [; |
| 16:06 | oleonard | paul_p: Maybe not a whole translation, but because I was shown the English version automatically I didn't see their design |
| 16:06 | nengard | awesome! well you can translate the XML and submit the translation to the docs list |
| 16:06 | so that others can benefit from it | |
| 16:06 | oleonard | http://catalogue.unilim.fr/ |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | ty |
| 16:06 | oleonard | Switch to French to see their design |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 16:06 | oh puuurty | |
| 16:07 | nengard | very puuurty |
| 16:07 | sekjal | ooooooh |
| 16:07 | paul_p | yikes ! strange ! they worked directly in fr-FR scope ! silly they ! |
| 16:07 | * paul_p | will warn our project manager immediately ! |
| 16:07 | sekjal | browser language auto-detect |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | well it's pretty anyway |
| 16:07 | paul_p | sekjal: I know it's language auto-detect, what I missed is that their design was only in french ! |
| 16:07 | sekjal | paul_p: ah |
| 16:08 | paul_p | (as I see french by default ;-) ) |
| 16:08 | oleonard | Very nice design, it should be seen by English speakers too! :) |
| 16:08 | ropuch | :) |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | yea I like that a lot actually |
| 16:09 | ropuch | Bookmarked, I'll show it to students as an example how can you further customzie Koha [; |
| 16:10 | oleonard | ...but warn them that this is a custom template ropuch, with all the future upgrade issues which come along with custom templates |
| 16:12 | paul_p | in the french design, you'll notice : "Catalogue BfM". It's the public library of Limoges. And you know what, they use Koha too ;-) |
| 16:12 | ropuch | Nice nice |
| 16:12 | paul_p | Add Limoges history museum & a CNRS research laboratory, Limoges is a 100% Koha city ;-) |
| 16:12 | (all of them being BibLibre customers) | |
| 16:13 | the only bad side : Marseille <=> Limoges = 7Hours !!! | |
| 16:13 | (by train or car, no airlines) | |
| 16:13 | ropuch | You mean ping response? ;> |
| 16:15 | I wonder if they have similar customization in stuff interface | |
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| 16:41 | paul_p | sekjal: excatly 37 patches QAed this afternoon, from 71 that were pending. I'll continue tomorrow. If you can QA the BibLibre ones i'll be thankfull ! |
| 16:42 | sekjal | paul_p: awesome, thanks! |
| 16:42 | next few weeks will be QA-palooza | |
| 16:43 | paul_p | mantra for today : sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328-sekjal-6328- ;-) |
| 16:43 | QA-palooza ??? | |
| 16:44 | sekjal: QA-palooza ??? | |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | QA-palooza is a festival of looking at patches and a generally joyous expression of testing |
| 16:45 | sekjal | http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollapalooza |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | QA-palooza is also a play on the Lollapalooza music festival |
| 16:45 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 16:46 | * paul_p | learned something today |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | lollapalooza was a big deal for us teens of the 90's |
| 16:46 | * wizzyrea | never went, but knew people who did |
| 16:48 | * oleonard | saw the very first incarnation when it was in Chicago (or nearby anyway) |
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| 17:07 | cait | hi all |
| 17:07 | Danielle | Hi |
| 17:08 | wahanui | hello, Danielle |
| 17:09 | rangi | morning |
| 17:09 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 17:11 | hi Danielle - sorry, wrong sequence | |
| 17:12 | Danielle | I see how I rate. ;) |
| 17:12 | No problem. | |
| 17:12 | * Danielle | has good news today. |
| 17:12 | Danielle | First-round job interview went well. |
| 17:13 | cait | grats :) |
| 17:13 | Danielle | Thanks. |
| 17:14 | It was with the hiring manager who directly said he was going to have me in for an interview with the whole team. | |
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| 17:30 | Topic for #koha is now Global Bug Squashing Day is underway: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day | Koha 3.4.5 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 16 November 2011 at 02:00 UTC+0 | |
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| 18:08 | sekjal | @tell later magnuse what's the NORMARC equivalent of MARC21's 773 or UNIMARC's 461? Host Item Entry |
| 18:08 | huginn | sekjal: Error: I haven't seen later, I'll let you do the telling. |
| 18:08 | sekjal | @later tell magnuse what's the NORMARC equivalent of MARC21's 773 or UNIMARC's 461? Host Item Entry |
| 18:08 | huginn | sekjal: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:09 | trea | any ideas how to hide the CallNumber in the masthead search via jquery? |
| 18:09 | was trying to use $("select[name='idx'] option:sixth").hide(); but that's no bueno | |
| 18:11 | sekjal | $("select[name='idx'].contains("Call Number")).hide(); ? |
| 18:11 | trea | lemme try that |
| 18:13 | no luck, i'll keep fiddlin | |
| 18:17 | cait | let me take a look |
| 18:18 | hm | |
| 18:18 | masthead - simple search in opac? | |
| 18:18 | trea | right |
| 18:19 | cait | hm |
| 18:19 | sec | |
| 18:20 | $("option[value='callnum']").hide(); | |
| 18:20 | trea | cait++ |
| 18:20 | ty ty | |
| 18:20 | cait | :) |
| 18:21 | * oleonard | will brb |
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| 18:30 | chris_n | its awful quiet in here |
| 18:31 | rangi | the bugs list isn't |
| 18:31 | thats noisy :) | |
| 18:32 | maximep | probably my fault :/ |
| 18:32 | rangi | heh no its good noise |
| 18:32 | lots passing qa | |
| 18:33 | maximep | well it's not for me |
| 18:33 | lots of patches we had to change the status | |
| 18:33 | because turns out we should not have sent them | |
| 18:33 | :/ | |
| 18:36 | rangi | ohhh crappy |
| 18:36 | cait | :( |
| 18:36 | one of my favourites too it seems | |
| 18:36 | rangi | not tech issues eh? client ones? |
| 18:37 | maximep | clients |
| 18:37 | they have to have the features before we can send them | |
| 18:37 | so that means probably a few months | |
| 18:37 | cait | ? |
| 18:37 | perhaps you should change your strategy there | |
| 18:37 | maximep | hard to explain |
| 18:38 | rangi | *nod* others have got into that situation before |
| 18:38 | we write our contracts so we can't, but u can't go back in time | |
| 18:38 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6980] Existing extended patron attributes are shown on patron screens even when ExtendedPatronAttributes is disabled <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6980> |
| 18:39 | cait | so you can't? |
| 18:39 | rangi | you can? |
| 18:40 | sekjal | lol |
| 18:41 | maximep: sorry to hear you had to pull patches. hopefully they'll be in a place where you can distribute them again soon | |
| 18:43 | maximep | at least we can send bug fixes. Better than nothing, I guess |
| 18:44 | rangi | I guess main thing is try to keep them rebase on their own branches |
| 18:44 | so when u are allowed easy to send | |
| 18:47 | maximep | yeah we keep everything in their branch |
| 18:49 | rangi | sweet |
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| 18:54 | rhcl_MLA | ping wizzyrea |
| 18:54 | ping rangi | |
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| 18:55 | rhcl_MLA | @seen joanne |
| 18:55 | huginn | rhcl_MLA: I have not seen joanne. |
| 18:56 | rhcl_MLA | @seen joann |
| 18:56 | huginn | rhcl_MLA: joann was last seen in #koha 22 weeks, 0 days, 13 hours, 47 minutes, and 1 second ago: <joann> night all |
| 18:56 | rhcl_MLA | @seen everybody |
| 18:56 | huginn | rhcl_MLA: I have not seen everybody. |
| 18:57 | trea | ok, in the Opac Search results, there is a little bit in the breadcrumbs div that says "kw,wrdl:<your search term>" - can you hide the "kw,wrdl:" bit? |
| 18:57 | rhcl_MLA | @seen rangi |
| 18:57 | huginn | rhcl_MLA: rangi was last seen in #koha 8 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <rangi> sweet |
| 18:57 | rhcl_MLA | @seen wizzyrea |
| 18:57 | huginn | rhcl_MLA: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 10 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: * wizzyrea never went, but knew people who did |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | sup rhcl |
| 18:57 | trea - probably | |
| 18:57 | rhcl_MLA | hey hey |
| 18:58 | hey hey rebecca Hammond here from Lawrence PL too, so met her | |
| 18:58 | trea | noice |
| 18:58 | rhcl_MLA | what the heck...will resend |
| 18:59 | I'm here at MLA, and just attended a table talk about Kete. Rebecca Hammond from Lawerence PL was at the talk. | |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | ah |
| 18:59 | rhcl_MLA | It seems there is some interest by the Mo State Gen. Lib. about starting to use Kete |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | interesting |
| 19:00 | wahanui | interesting is good |
| 19:00 | rhcl_MLA | They had lots of questions about using Kete w/ Koha, et al |
| 19:01 | wish Joann was online... | |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | ugh gotta go again |
| 19:01 | thought i might have some time to hang out | |
| 19:04 | rangi | sorry was getting off the bus |
| 19:05 | rhcl_MLA | we just had a table talk discussion about Kete here at the Missouri Library Association annual conference |
| 19:05 | rangi | cool |
| 19:05 | were there some ppl using it there? | |
| 19:06 | rhcl_MLA | The attendees were really impressed that I could name-drop "Joann" and "Rangi" |
| 19:06 | rangi | heh |
| 19:07 | rhcl_MLA | The Missouri State Historical Society is apparently considering starting to use it, and wanted input from others. |
| 19:08 | rangi | cool |
| 19:08 | rhcl_MLA | also the Midwest Geneological Center at Mid-Continent Public Library |
| 19:08 | does anyone (Catalyst?) support Kete? | |
| 19:09 | rangi | catalyst dont no |
| 19:09 | do you use twitter? | |
| 19:10 | rhcl_MLA | only when I have to |
| 19:10 | rangi | send wtem a tweet |
| 19:10 | rhcl_MLA | send who a tweet? |
| 19:11 | rangi | wtem |
| 19:11 | Guillaume left #koha | |
| 19:11 | rhcl_MLA | ah, ok |
| 19:11 | rangi | walter wrote kete, and still works on it |
| 19:11 | rhcl_MLA | though that was a garble for "them" :) |
| 19:11 | thought | |
| 19:12 | nengard | lots of easy sign offs needed on bug 6966 |
| 19:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6966 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Update Help Files for Koha 3.6 Release |
| 19:12 | rhcl_MLA | gotta go... |
| 19:12 | rhcl_MLA left #koha | |
| 19:12 | nengard | oops scared him away |
| 19:13 | rangi | heh |
| 19:18 | nengard | i have asked this before, but i'm trying again - has anyone gotten results from the holds statistics report - ever? cause I never have ? I don't have a help file for this one cause I've never seen it work |
| 19:20 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6983] Item type filter on overdues report does not respect item-level_itypes preference <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6983> |
| 19:21 | oleonard | ^ adding to the pile |
| 19:21 | rangi | :) |
| 19:21 | oleonard | nengard: I just tried it on our production system which should have lots of data. No results. |
| 19:21 | I'm guessing broken. | |
| 19:21 | nengard | exactly what i found |
| 19:21 | on my system and a production system | |
| 19:21 | okay bug report | |
| 19:22 | rangi | hmm 19 passed qa |
| 19:22 | i guess i know what im doing today | |
| 19:22 | trea | reposting: in the Opac Search results, there is a little bit in the breadcrumbs div that says "kw,wrdl:<your search term>" - can you hide the "kw,wrdl:" bit? |
| 19:22 | wahanui | i already had it that way, trea. |
| 19:23 | nengard | Bug 6984 reported |
| 19:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6984 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Holds Statistics Doesn't Work |
| 19:23 | rangi | trea: no, but we should |
| 19:23 | nengard | :) |
| 19:23 | rangi | thats dumb on the opac |
| 19:23 | i vote we replace it with | |
| 19:23 | ah:asa:aiwdh111!#$ | |
| 19:23 | trea | ^^^ |
| 19:24 | rangi++ | |
| 19:24 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:24 | cait | hehe |
| 19:24 | rangi | cos its about as useful to a borrower |
| 19:24 | cait | I had complaints about that too |
| 19:24 | +1 for removing | |
| 19:24 | nengard | +1 |
| 19:24 | rangi | +1 |
| 19:24 | trea | +1 |
| 19:24 | sekjal | move to a hidden dev or an HTML attribute? for debugging purposes? |
| 19:25 | rangi | yeah hiddent div would be fine |
| 19:25 | cait | hm, why div? |
| 19:25 | span? | |
| 19:25 | oleonard | HTMl comment? |
| 19:25 | rangi | marquee |
| 19:25 | its not used enough imho | |
| 19:25 | oleonard | heh |
| 19:26 | * oleonard | wonders if Bug 6483 will make it in... haven't checked it in a while |
| 19:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6483 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search |
| 19:26 | sekjal | HTML_comment++ |
| 19:26 | * rangi | may have had too much energy drink this morning |
| 19:26 | trea | WOOO! I'm a hummingbird! |
| 19:26 | * trea | hovers |
| 19:27 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:28 | its still fair game at this point oleonard | |
| 19:28 | cait | trea? |
| 19:28 | trea | cait? |
| 19:28 | wahanui | cait is kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate or the purveyor of an infinite supply of virtual cookies or not sure we need the page(s)... but that might just be me or Ms. Cait to you. |
| 19:28 | cait | I was wondering about the hummingbird |
| 19:29 | trea | ah, the energy drinks |
| 19:30 | nengard | oleonard i hope so - i love that feature |
| 19:30 | it's NICE | |
| 19:31 | rangi | does it introduce any new strings? |
| 19:31 | cait | probably |
| 19:31 | oleonard | It certainly introduces template changes, probably new strings |
| 19:31 | cait | if it changes the template it will cause fuzzys |
| 19:31 | but nice | |
| 19:31 | nengard | but it made it in before the feature freeze |
| 19:31 | rangi | then its got a couple of days |
| 19:31 | cait | it's still possible |
| 19:31 | rangi | before string freeze |
| 19:32 | which is 24:00 UTC October 8 | |
| 19:32 | sekjal | it sure would be nice if we had a readily accessible way of checking if a submitted patch introduces new strings |
| 19:32 | cait | you hve |
| 19:32 | take a complete po file | |
| 19:33 | run perl translate update somelanguagecode | |
| 19:33 | rangi | yeah, it only takes about 5 mins to run |
| 19:33 | cait | utc? |
| 19:33 | not my time zone? | |
| 19:33 | ah,it's not that much, it runs pretty fast | |
| 19:33 | rangi | well, ill give a couple of hours leeway |
| 19:33 | cait | at least on my new laptop :) |
| 19:35 | rangi | nengard: you should should tom how to submit patches for documentation |
| 19:35 | show even | |
| 19:35 | if you do it on the main list, we may even get more ppl :) | |
| 19:39 | oleonard | Oh sure, get all technical with them. |
| 19:39 | nengard | is that the one who found my mistakes? |
| 19:40 | cait | perhaps tell them to put text and reports on bugzilla? |
| 19:40 | or a wiki page? | |
| 19:40 | wahanui | a wiki page is probably broken again. |
| 19:40 | cait | as an option to get it included |
| 19:40 | reports like bugs or mistakes they find | |
| 19:44 | * oleonard | wonders if we'll hit 7000 bugs before GBSD is over |
| 19:45 | cait | filing more bugs than resolving? |
| 19:47 | oleonard | Seems like I usually discover at least one bug for each bug I fix or sign off on |
| 19:47 | cait | I know that feeling |
| 19:47 | some days it feels like everything falls apart that you touch | |
| 19:53 | nengard | for tom's email - QueryRemoveStopwords - does it do anything anymore? |
| 19:54 | oleonard i hate that - that's what training is like for me | |
| 19:56 | cait | only when you are still running nozebra i guess |
| 19:56 | nengard: or presenting for me | |
| 19:58 | sekjal | cool idea of bugs.k-c.org: get the Dependency Graphs working |
| 19:58 | s/of/for/ | |
| 20:00 | nengard | cait i thought nozebra was deprecated ? am i wrong? |
| 20:00 | cait | nengard: we ar enot offering it on new installs |
| 20:00 | but people are still using it | |
| 20:00 | when you update from koha with nozebra activated | |
| 20:01 | or zebra deactivated, whatever :) | |
| 20:01 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 20:01 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 20:02 | nengard | thanks cait |
| 20:02 | i'll see what i can add to the manual | |
| 20:04 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6689] Improve styling of table pager <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6689> |
| 20:05 | trea | i think this is a CSS question possibly: There is a span class "Actions" per-item in the search results. This is the HTML <span class="label">Actions:</span> |
| 20:05 | how do you hide this? | |
| 20:07 | Brooke | why not comment it out initially so you don't break summat accidentally |
| 20:07 | cait | hm not so easy with css i think |
| 20:08 | gmcharlt | sekjal: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]graph.cgi?id=6070 |
| 20:08 | Brooke | /* */ |
| 20:08 | cait | Brooke: I think without changing the templates |
| 20:08 | that's the art :) | |
| 20:08 | trea | ^^ |
| 20:08 | rangi | yeah changing templates for local use = bad, wrong and evil |
| 20:08 | cait | trea: very easy with jquery probably |
| 20:08 | rangi | But |
| 20:08 | a trick you can use | |
| 20:08 | cait | rangi: yeah, make me feel bad about my newest project :P |
| 20:08 | sekjal | gmcharlt: nice! |
| 20:08 | rangi | is make a language |
| 20:09 | a 'language' | |
| 20:09 | and put the changed template in theer | |
| 20:09 | the way it works it will fall back to english | |
| 20:09 | for all the others | |
| 20:09 | gmcharlt | sekjal: for even more fun, http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]graph.cgi?id=5917 |
| 20:10 | nengard | oleonard 6689 - i applied and shift refreshed and don't see a difference |
| 20:10 | other ideas? | |
| 20:10 | oleonard | nengard: It depends on the patch for Bug 6616 |
| 20:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6616 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Move common table pager markup to include |
| 20:10 | nengard | well that would be it :) |
| 20:10 | so i apply that first and then this | |
| 20:10 | sekjal | gmcharlt: I'm thrilled by this |
| 20:11 | oleonard | nengard: Or vice-versa. They don't conflict. |
| 20:12 | trea: span.results_summary.actions { display : none; } | |
| 20:12 | gmcharlt | sekjal: and for the ultimate view - http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=doall&rankdir=LR |
| 20:13 | cait | oh |
| 20:13 | oleonard++ | |
| 20:13 | trea | oleonard++ |
| 20:14 | * oleonard | scrolls down expectantly to 5917 |
| 20:14 | is not disappointed | |
| 20:14 | Brooke | holy mf |
| 20:15 | nengard | oleonard signed off |
| 20:15 | sekjal signed off on bug 6689 | |
| 20:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6689 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve styling of table pager |
| 20:15 | nengard | :) |
| 20:15 | Brooke what's up? | |
| 20:15 | Brooke | just looking at the template toolkit dependency |
| 20:16 | nengard | oh |
| 20:16 | :) | |
| 20:16 | Brooke | that many lines = naval class swearing. |
| 20:16 | nengard | must go - hubby says so - need to do my exercises cause i'm feeling tight |
| 20:16 | be back | |
| 20:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 456 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:38 | rangi | one of many builds today i think |
| 20:40 | Brooke | jenkins gonna get blisters on his bot fingers. |
| 20:40 | rangi | heh |
| 20:41 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug_6770: removed doubled override increment when using AllowHoldPolicyOverride <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15a6ff8acd21cbbd9> |
| 20:42 | cait | !huginn botsnack blister cream(?) |
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| 20:49 | trea | Brooke: reminds me a Dire Straits song |
| 20:49 | rangi | we gotta move these colour tvs |
| 20:49 | trea | iknorite |
| 20:49 | rangi | now its stuck in my brain |
| 20:49 | * rangi | whacks his head |
| 20:49 | rangi | "out you demon song, out" |
| 20:49 | chris_n2 | for anyone who's interested: http://imageshack.us/f/5/kohatrunkonwin32.jpg/ |
| 20:50 | rangi | http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Gho[…]tuff/3HJOrj?src=5 |
| 20:50 | this will get rid of it | |
| 20:50 | * Brooke | assualts rangi with E Papa Waiari |
| 20:50 | rangi | chris_n2: you win the persistent bugger badge :-) |
| 20:50 | well done | |
| 20:50 | Brooke | oooh |
| 20:51 | can we have one of those? | |
| 20:51 | chris_n2 | lol |
| 20:51 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6958 : Fix for leading spaces being stripped on translation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6ab0045351273cc53> |
| 20:51 | chris_n2 | Brooke: you really want one? |
| 20:51 | Brooke | no I think it's a stellar addition to the cheevo system :P |
| 20:52 | cait | yay! |
| 20:52 | * Brooke | has a one track mind. |
| 20:52 | chris_n2 | well, I decided to keep notes this time |
| 20:52 | * Brooke | cheers Chris squared. |
| 20:52 | chris_n2 | it is slooooooow as cold molasses, however |
| 20:53 | * chris_n2 | suspects its the low end hardware he's running |
| 20:53 | * trea | wonders if virtual box on WinXP running a debian VM is faster |
| 20:53 | chris_n2 | not on this box ;-) |
| 20:54 | trea | ;) |
| 20:54 | chris_n2 | its an old, old pentium4 with maybe 2GB of memory |
| 20:54 | and lots of junk running in the background | |
| 20:55 | * chris_n2 | remembers when he thought his TI-990 was fast along with its whopping 28k of memory |
| 20:56 | trea | anyone recall a bug about doing a search with parens returning no results? |
| 20:56 | rangi | there are some bugs about that |
| 20:57 | trea | bug 1807? perhaps |
| 20:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1807 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results |
| 20:57 | trea | ya that looks like it |
| 20:58 | rangi | thats it |
| 20:58 | it all stems from us | |
| 20:58 | trying to do ccl, in a half arsed fashion | |
| 21:02 | that jesse | |
| 21:02 | always int he shadows | |
| 21:06 | bg | HA |
| 21:07 | cait | hi bg :) |
| 21:07 | rangi | heya bg :) |
| 21:08 | nengard left #koha | |
| 21:11 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug_6974: bugfix: do not create empty record before building input for new biblio <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f73de4d7ebfbd279> |
| 21:22 | * rangi | really appreciates the testplans on the bugs he has been pushing |
| 21:22 | rangi | it makes life a lot easier |
| 21:26 | sekjal | testplans++ |
| 21:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #456: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/456/ |
| 21:26 | srdjan: bug_6770: removed doubled override increment when using AllowHoldPolicyOverride | |
| 21:26 | sekjal | more QAing to follow |
| 21:26 | but for now, I rest | |
| 21:26 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 457 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:26 | sekjal | night, all |
| 21:27 | cait | night sekjal |
| 21:27 | sekjal++ | |
| 21:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6076: acqui pdf error when marcxml wrong <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]40c46a63d04ab1e3f> / BZ6074: setting import flag when staged file imported in aqbasket <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4a3c4d17ba97f4863> |
| 21:34 | * cait | cheers |
| 21:35 | rangi | :) |
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| 22:05 | eythian | http://www.newyorker.com/arts/[…]id=social_retweet <-- remember everyone, today is black metal friday |
| 22:05 | cait | morning mr robin :) |
| 22:05 | eythian | hello cait |
| 22:06 | cait | you are here, time to go to sleep for me :) |
| 22:06 | bye all | |
| 22:06 | eythian | heh cya |
| 22:06 | rangi | cya cait |
| 22:07 | cait left #koha | |
| 22:08 | bg | so who wins tonight - the yanks or the tigers? |
| 22:09 | rangi | hmmm |
| 22:09 | the tigers? | |
| 22:10 | bg | it's in yankee stadium |
| 22:11 | so home field advantage | |
| 22:11 | I'm rooting for the tigers | |
| 22:11 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: BZ6268 follow-up for the form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1dc02b27d4f271a3c> / Bug 6268: (MT #6408) Bad Total in basket.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]66babeba3cb453b1b> |
| 22:11 | bg | where's slef - he'd have an opinion or at least tell me to watch football (non-US) |
| 22:12 | rangi | hehe |
| 22:12 | asleep is my guess | |
| 22:12 | bg | eythian: you're going to india right? |
| 22:12 | eythian | bg: yarp |
| 22:12 | bg | awesome |
| 22:12 | when do you arrive? | |
| 22:12 | eythian | The night before the conference starts |
| 22:13 | bg | ahhh.. we're getting in two days early |
| 22:13 | I think we'll need more time to adjust to the time difference | |
| 22:14 | eythian | I'm usually pretty good with jet lag, also for me it'll just be staying up later :) |
| 22:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #457: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/457/ |
| 22:14 | bg | do you have a place you're staying yet? |
| 22:14 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6958 : Fix for leading spaces being stripped on translation |
| 22:14 | * srdjan: bug_6974: bugfix: do not create empty record before building input for new biblio | |
| 22:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6958 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Missing spaces in translated templates |
| 22:14 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 458 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:14 | eythian | yeah, Vihang's Inn, which is where many others are staying. |
| 22:14 | * bg | needs to look up the name again |
| 22:15 | bg | Ah cool we are at the same place |
| 22:15 | eythian | sweet |
| 22:15 | bg | been to india before? |
| 22:15 | * eythian | should chase up the status of his visa today, too |
| 22:15 | eythian | nope |
| 22:15 | bg | heh - just got mine last week |
| 22:16 | eythian | I sent mine away a week and a half ago, so it should be almost ready. |
| 22:16 | chris_n2 | for all of you brave people: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.4 |
| 22:16 | bg | well anything is possible in india (a drive said that to me before) |
| 22:16 | s/drive/driver | |
| 22:16 | eythian | heh |
| 22:16 | in that case, I plan to try skiing through a revolving door. | |
| 22:17 | chris_n2 | that sounds fun |
| 22:17 | eythian | also impossible anywhere else :) |
| 22:17 | chris_n2: what's a .exe file? | |
| 22:17 | chris_n2 | LOL |
| 22:18 | bg | short skis and you can do it |
| 22:18 | chris_n2 | its short for ex<plod>e |
| 22:18 | eythian | heh |
| 22:21 | chris_n2 | libreoffice writer has a cool export to wiki option |
| 22:21 | rangi | oh, i didnt know that |
| 22:23 | chris_n2 | yeah, it took a very small amount of cleanup |
| 22:23 | but that page I just created was based on such an export | |
| 22:23 | saved a *bunch* of time | |
| 22:24 | rangi | cool |
| 22:25 | eythian | it has utf-8 issues though I noticed. |
| 22:26 | chris_n2 | yeah |
| 22:26 | I just hand edited those out | |
| 22:27 | or it may have been a winders problem | |
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| 22:43 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 6600, Library name linking wrong if current location is different <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53aecae26a9997243> |
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| 23:01 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #458: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/458/ |
| 23:01 | * paul.poulain: BZ6074: setting import flag when staged file imported in aqbasket | |
| 23:01 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 6076: acqui pdf error when marcxml wrong | |
| 23:01 | * paul.poulain: Bug 6268: (MT #6408) Bad Total in basket.pl | |
| 23:01 | * paul.poulain: BZ6268 follow-up for the form | |
| 23:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6076 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , acqui pdf error when marcxml wrong |
| 23:01 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6268 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Bad Total in basket.pl | |
| 23:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 459 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 23:01 | book_labels8 joined #koha | |
| 23:02 | book_labels8 | Hi guys, does anyone know if you can create a custom book label with the branch name and barcode on it? Running version 3.4.2 |
| 23:02 | phlunk3 joined #koha | |
| 23:03 | trea joined #koha | |
| 23:04 | book_labels8 | Also, is there a way to increase the barcode font size? |
| 23:09 | mtj | book_labels8: hmm, pass on that |
| 23:13 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6953 - Value builder for NORMARC 007 does not show further options <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4a23d85234ed9e505> |
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| 23:35 | wizzyrea | book_labels8: unfortunately there isn't really a way to do that |
| 23:35 | but there is dev in the pipeline to allow that | |
| 23:36 | (that was in regards to the barcode font size | |
| 23:36 | book_labels8: have you had a look at the labels documentation? I think that it tells how to make those labels | |
| 23:39 | book_labels8 | I have had a look at the documentation, but it doesn't say how to do that |
| 23:48 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #459: SUCCESS in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/459/ |
| 23:48 | oleonard: Fix for Bug 6600, Library name linking wrong if current location is different | |
| 23:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6600 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Library name linking wrong if current location is different |
| 23:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 460 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 23:53 | bg | rangi |
| 23:53 | do you know the command for a package it I wanted to set long overdue.pl | |
| 23:54 | or do I need just edit/add to one of the crons | |
| 23:55 | jcamins_away | bg: I think you need to edit cron.daily. |
| 23:55 | bg | ok thanks |
| 23:55 | how you doing? | |
| 23:56 | thd-awa`` joined #koha | |
| 23:56 | jcamins_away | I'm doing pretty well. |
| 23:56 | Tired. Allergy season arrived with a vengeance. | |
| 23:57 | bg | yeah I was up all night with a sick puppy - so I'm tired also |
| 23:57 | jcamins_away | Oh no! I hope it's something with a quick recovery? |
| 23:57 | wizzyrea | poor pup |
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