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| 00:18 | hguewmLibrarian | ok. back again koha ninja-gurus |
| 00:18 | best way to script a ftp transaction? | |
| 00:21 | no takers? | |
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| 01:11 | Topic for #koha is now 3.4.5 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 5 October 2011 at 10:00 UTC | |
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| 01:28 | Topic for #koha is now 3.4.5 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 5 October 2011 at 10:00 UTC | |
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| 01:37 | Topic for #koha is now 3.4.5 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 5 October 2011 at 10:00 UTC | |
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| 02:00 | Topic for #koha is now 3.4.5 is now available; Next General IRC Meeting 5 October 2011 at 10:00 UTC | |
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| 03:09 | druthb | o/ |
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| 03:24 | phlunk3 | o/ snail race!! |
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| 03:27 | Oak | hello druthb :) |
| 03:28 | hello #koha | |
| 03:28 | druthb | hi, Oak! :D |
| 03:28 | Oak | :) what's new? |
| 03:30 | druthb | not much...workin' on this and that. :) |
| 03:30 | Oak | good |
| 03:30 | time for breakfast here | |
| 03:31 | druthb | :) |
| 04:01 | phlunk3 | yay for 5pm :) seeyas |
| 04:22 | rangi | evening |
| 04:30 | druthb | hi, rangi! |
| 04:35 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 04:35 | where in the world are you now? | |
| 04:35 | druthb | Columbia, TN, just south of Nashville. |
| 04:36 | rangi | ahh cool |
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| 05:04 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:07 | rangi | hi cait |
| 05:07 | cait | evening rangi |
| 05:21 | Oak | morning |
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| 05:30 | Jignesh | hi |
| 05:30 | wahanui | que tal, Jignesh |
| 05:30 | Jignesh | talk in english |
| 05:31 | hello | |
| 05:31 | any one is there | |
| 05:31 | cait | Jignesh: wahanui is a bot :) |
| 05:31 | he sometimes does that, greeting people | |
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| 05:32 | Jignesh | hi |
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| 06:28 | alex_a | hello #koha |
| 06:30 | rangi | hi alex_a |
| 06:32 | alex_a | hi rangi |
| 06:37 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:37 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 06:37 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 06:37 | rangi | heya magnuse |
| 06:37 | wahanui | magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 06:38 | magnuse | hehe, hiya rangi |
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| 06:44 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:45 | rangi | hi reiveune |
| 06:45 | ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 06:46 | rangi | cześć ropuch |
| 06:48 | cait | hi all bye all :) |
| 06:48 | will be back | |
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| 06:57 | ropuch | The "Limit to currently available items" link in opac search result shoul work out of the box? |
| 06:57 | rangi | there were some bugs about it, i think they are fixed, but not sure |
| 06:58 | ropuch | Ok, I'll look into bugzilla ;> |
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| 06:59 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 07:03 | paul_p | kia ora magnus & al |
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| 07:08 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:12 | ropuch | Hello kf [; |
| 07:12 | alex_a | kf: \o |
| 07:14 | rangi | hi paul_p and wb kf |
| 07:15 | kf | hi all :) |
| 07:15 | paul_p | hello rangi. is there some RWC11 matches in wellington ? Do you plan to go to see some ? |
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| 07:16 | rangi | i went to the usa vs australia game |
| 07:16 | cant afford the quarter finals | |
| 07:17 | magnuse | :-( |
| 07:17 | rangi | id go see england vs france |
| 07:18 | but that is in auckland | |
| 07:18 | same as nz vs argentina | |
| 07:18 | ireland vs wales and south africa vs australia in wellington | |
| 07:18 | i dont want to pay 150 to see those games | |
| 07:19 | alex_a | rangi: and you'd want to pay 150 to see france ? |
| 07:19 | ;) | |
| 07:20 | rangi | they are due to bounce back, id love to see them beat england :) |
| 07:20 | teams i always like to see lose in rugby are, australia, south africa and england | |
| 07:20 | :) | |
| 07:20 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:21 | alex_a | haha |
| 07:21 | paul_p | rangi, so I fear you're right to save the 150bucks for FR-EN. Because i'm not sure at all that you would have seen frenchies winning... frankly, i wouldn't bet a penny on them... |
| 07:21 | alex_a | but it seems unlikely |
| 07:21 | rangi | yeah, not the way they are playing at the moment |
| 07:22 | paul_p | what does newspapers say about french game ? |
| 07:22 | rangi | mostly focusing on tonga, which i think is good |
| 07:22 | they did play way above what they normally play | |
| 07:22 | paul_p | (here, they say things like "they are the worst team ever: no plan, no leader, no revolt,..." |
| 07:22 | ) | |
| 07:22 | rangi | dont want to detract from them by talking about french mistakes too much |
| 07:23 | i think, its the forwards | |
| 07:23 | paul_p | well, we loose against italy 5 months ago too, so it's not only Tonga playing better than usual. |
| 07:23 | rangi | yup |
| 07:25 | i think the coach might be in trouble | |
| 07:26 | paul_p | I bet for a final England-New Zealand. And victory of new zealand by 20 points. |
| 07:26 | rangi | hmm, i think wales nz |
| 07:27 | but you might be right | |
| 07:27 | it will be boring rugby vs running rugby | |
| 07:27 | paul_p | I would be happy to see wales, but they may be feared by winning a semi-final for the 1st time ever. And miss their match. |
| 07:28 | boring rugby--, running rugby++, /me will be for NZ, definetly. | |
| 07:28 | rangi | england = kick, kick kick kick kick, run fall over lose the ball forward, kick kick kick |
| 07:28 | paul_p | and even in case of France<>NZ final, i'm not sure I would be unhappy to see all blacks winning... |
| 07:29 | magnuse | run run run fall down kick in the face |
| 07:29 | rangi | lol |
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| 07:32 | magnuse | rea jr is my hero when it comes to sports commentary ;-) |
| 07:33 | rangi | heh yes |
| 07:33 | magnuse | ooh, i'm looking forward to hearing the results of the kohacon12 vote tomorrow! |
| 07:38 | rangi | :) |
| 07:38 | kf | :) |
| 07:38 | scotland! | |
| 07:38 | wahanui | rumour has it scotland is pretty wicked too |
| 07:39 | magnuse | norway got it's koha co-op one week ago, while i was sitting in a ferry half way to lofoten, here's the google translate version of an article about the founding meeting: http://translate.google.com/tr[…]e.php%3Fid%3D2654 |
| 07:40 | rangi | woo hoo |
| 07:40 | magnuse | ouch, i see now that the link to koha is wrong |
| 07:40 | i'm on it! | |
| 07:41 | rangi | :) |
| 07:41 | it happens | |
| 07:42 | magnuse | :-/ |
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| 07:43 | kf | big news magnuse! |
| 07:43 | rangi | great news! |
| 07:43 | magnuse | yup! |
| 07:44 | i'll ask thomas gramstad to introduce the organization properly on the list or in the newsletter | |
| 07:44 | rangi | awesome |
| 07:45 | should send a press release to m breeding too | |
| 07:45 | magnuse | yeah, very good point! |
| 07:45 | and i'll remind everyone about which website we want to promote | |
| 07:45 | rangi | :) |
| 07:47 | kf | magnuse++ |
| 07:48 | rangi | thats awesome news |
| 07:48 | go scandanavia! | |
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| 07:51 | kf | donum++ |
| 07:51 | (hopes she got that right) | |
| 07:51 | should start with some positive karma | |
| 07:52 | magnuse | kf: quite right! |
| 07:59 | rangi | donum++ |
| 08:00 | magnuse | yay! |
| 08:08 | the link in the article is fixed now | |
| 08:09 | rangi | wow that was fast |
| 08:09 | magnuse | hehe yep |
| 08:12 | rangi | man its cold tonight |
| 08:12 | @wunder wellington nz | |
| 08:12 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on October 04, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:12 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:12 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on October 04, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.03 in 983 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:12 | rangi | heh |
| 08:13 | magnuse | ;-) |
| 08:14 | rangi | 8.5°C |
| 08:14 | Feels like 4°c | |
| 08:14 | http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/wellington | |
| 08:14 | magnuse | ouch |
| 08:14 | rangi | thats more like it |
| 08:15 | magnuse | at least you are heading towards summer |
| 08:15 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:15 | fog | |
| 08:15 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 13.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on October 04, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:15 | rangi | like the rugby ball in the forecast? |
| 08:15 | kf | need no crystal ball for that |
| 08:15 | magnuse | heh |
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| 09:11 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:11 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 14.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on October 04, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:49 | rangi | https://www.multivio.org/main/ <-- interesting |
| 09:54 | magnuse | yay |
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| 10:01 | kf | oh |
| 10:01 | I saw a presentation from them I think | |
| 10:01 | e-lib.ch | |
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| 11:29 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6879] Actual price should show correctly on order line and basket summary <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6879> |
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| 12:24 | kf | nengard around? |
| 12:24 | nengard | yup |
| 12:24 | :) | |
| 12:24 | kf | ah hi :) |
| 12:24 | I had talked to mpelletier on the chat before he sent his bugfix :) | |
| 12:24 | I think he is only repairing the datail page, not the summary page | |
| 12:25 | but it's an improvement | |
| 12:25 | (actual price thingy) | |
| 12:25 | the second screenshot is when you edit an order line | |
| 12:26 | nengard | kf ? oh!!! I get it, so you didn't close the basket - i tested on a closed basket so I didn't see the edit option |
| 12:27 | and I'll change the status to signed off then if that's just the first patch | |
| 12:27 | kf | it should still be noted |
| 12:27 | but happy to see it getting better :) | |
| 12:27 | nengard | oh wait - not i won't |
| 12:28 | hang on i'll put new images up there | |
| 12:29 | kf | ok |
| 12:30 | nengard | updated |
| 12:30 | kf | hmpf |
| 12:30 | have you tried the javascript thing? | |
| 12:30 | nengard | also, there is another bug report out there with a patch about storing actual price |
| 12:30 | kf | perhaps it's still in cache? |
| 12:31 | there is one for not showing it as spent correctly - I had signed off on it | |
| 12:31 | you had filed it | |
| 12:31 | so glad someone else is testing acq - hope to get the most evil things out of it before release | |
| 12:32 | nengard | i tried shift refresh on the order line and it's still wrong |
| 12:33 | kf | looking at the patch it seems not to change the javascript really, only relabeling some fields? |
| 12:33 | hm. | |
| 12:33 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:34 | kf | he puts the unit price in there |
| 12:34 | which seems wrong | |
| 12:34 | oleonard | paul_p_ around? |
| 12:36 | kf | nengard: hmmm - which field in the database is actual price saved to? |
| 12:36 | perhaps it IS unitprice | |
| 12:36 | nengard | unitprice |
| 12:36 | kf | I am checkign our database right now and it looks right |
| 12:36 | ok | |
| 12:36 | nengard | I checked the db when testing |
| 12:36 | kf | and that's what the patch does |
| 12:36 | nengard | hi oleonard |
| 12:36 | kf | weird it#s not working |
| 12:36 | hi oleonard .) | |
| 12:36 | nengard | it's not working cause that field isn't queried in the pages I think |
| 12:36 | * oleonard | hands kf an eye patch |
| 12:37 | kf | lol thx |
| 12:37 | nengard: ? | |
| 12:38 | nengard | kf, he only updated the template for neworderempty.tt |
| 12:38 | maybe the template for the other page doesn't actually look at the unitprice field in the database | |
| 12:38 | kf | yes, but it's not working there right? |
| 12:38 | oh, is the edit template different? | |
| 12:39 | basket summary is wrong - his patch doesn't touch it | |
| 12:39 | nengard | oh ? duh |
| 12:39 | no you're right | |
| 12:39 | it's the same template | |
| 12:39 | maybe the edit is in the wrong place | |
| 12:39 | i don't know | |
| 12:39 | kf | me neither |
| 12:39 | hm | |
| 12:39 | oleonard might know | |
| 12:39 | ... | |
| 12:40 | bug 5516 | |
| 12:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5516 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ybeddyj, RESOLVED FIXED, Error in instructions |
| 12:40 | kf | ah, no not that one |
| 12:40 | bug 6879 | |
| 12:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6879 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Actual price should show correctly on order line and basket summary |
| 12:42 | oleonard | What's the question? |
| 12:43 | kf | why it doesn't work |
| 12:44 | because it looks so logical | |
| 12:44 | oh | |
| 12:44 | maybe something else is overwriting it ? the javascript calculation thing maybe? | |
| 12:48 | sorry for not making much sense today | |
| 12:48 | oleonard | @later tell paul_p_ We should add the source for the KOCT to git |
| 12:48 | huginn | oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:48 | * oleonard | finds it's simple to hack the KOCT to remember the patron barcode between transactions |
| 12:49 | paul_p_ | oleonard, true |
| 12:49 | (& good morning) | |
| 12:50 | * paul_p | was wondering wether we should add it to koha or to another git repo. We could have KOCT evolving with different timelines. For example, one could release KOCT v2.0 with a new design, i18n, ... in december |
| 12:50 | oleonard | If I go to the funds page and I have no budgets, shouldn't I be warned that I have no budgets? |
| 12:50 | * paul_p | vote for git.koha-community.org/koct.git project ! |
| 12:51 | paul_p | oleonard, if you have no budgets in the database yes. But if you just have no bugdet applicable to your login/branch/permission, not sure |
| 12:51 | kf | oleonard: yes? |
| 12:52 | paul_p: I think an extra project would be ok for that | |
| 12:52 | paul_p | should I add a topic to the irc general meeting ? |
| 12:52 | kf | paul_p: making it work for different firefox versions for example |
| 12:52 | paul_p: not the same timeline as our koha releases :) | |
| 12:53 | nengard: are you going to mark failed qua? | |
| 12:53 | nengard | kf i did |
| 12:53 | yes | |
| 12:53 | kf | I see that now , - sorry |
| 12:53 | lots of things today | |
| 12:53 | nengard | no prob |
| 12:53 | i totally understand | |
| 12:53 | it's only my first full week back at work, so i'm also trying to do too much at once :) | |
| 12:54 | kf | how is it gonig? |
| 12:54 | your hip and all :) | |
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| 13:05 | kf | hi talljoy |
| 13:07 | talljoy | hiya! |
| 13:07 | oleonard | Was trying to test 6879 but I can't even create a new basket |
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| 13:08 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 13:08 | oleonard | Hi brad, jcamins |
| 13:09 | brad | hello, Can anyone tell me what emailpro and phonepro are used for on the bulk patron import in Koha? |
| 13:10 | it is actually night here, Thailand | |
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| 13:11 | oleonard | brad: They were originally defined as "work email" and "work phone" I think, but in the current version they're labeled "secondary" |
| 13:11 | kf | oleonard: where are you stuck? |
| 13:11 | sometimes I wish you could edit your own comments in bugzilla :( typos-- | |
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| 13:11 | kf | hi trea |
| 13:12 | brad | not stuck, just wanted to put the right data in the right place |
| 13:12 | oleonard | kf: I'm on booksellers.pl and the supplier id isn't coming through to the template. |
| 13:12 | "new basket" link looks like this: basketheader.pl?booksellerid=&op=add_form | |
| 13:12 | brad | i thought it might be for the proffesional gauranteer |
| 13:14 | kf | hm |
| 13:14 | I always create from the start page, searching all vendors | |
| 13:14 | and then clicking new basket from the result list | |
| 13:14 | brad | the current version is still labled emailpro, i think the csv template is the same as the version from 2 years ago |
| 13:14 | kf | another template toolkit thing I bet :( |
| 13:14 | like I said, good to get more people testing there | |
| 13:15 | oleonard | brad: I mean the label in the patron add form. The database table is still named emailpro |
| 13:15 | table column, that is | |
| 13:16 | brad | that's cool i didn't see it on the patron add form |
| 13:16 | emailpro | |
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| 13:17 | oleonard | kf: I assumed it must be working for others if you and nengard are able to test the bug. |
| 13:17 | kf | different way to create the basket |
| 13:17 | is my guess | |
| 13:18 | do you have more than one vendor? | |
| 13:18 | nengard | what bug are we talking about |
| 13:18 | sorry was working | |
| 13:18 | oleonard | Working?! |
| 13:18 | * oleonard | is outraged |
| 13:18 | kf | oleonard: ok, I tested in 3.4.4 right now |
| 13:19 | vendor detail page > manage orders > new basket works for me there | |
| 13:19 | brad | just did a view source on the add patron page it is work email :-) |
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| 13:19 | kf | vendor search result list > new basket works for me too |
| 13:19 | oleonard: where have you been looking? | |
| 13:20 | oleonard | I'm working with a fairly fresh database, just added a my first vendor. It got added with a NULL id! |
| 13:20 | brad | thanks |
| 13:21 | have a good night :-) | |
| 13:21 | maximep | good morning #koha =) |
| 13:22 | oleonard | That's why I couldn't add a basket |
| 13:22 | kf | ouch |
| 13:22 | you didn#t name it null right? | |
| 13:22 | because I did that once to test something with empty fields and got weird results :) | |
| 13:24 | oleonard | No, didn't name it null. But even though I've corrected my vendor entry I still can't create a basket. I wonder if my database is just messed up. |
| 13:24 | kf | :( |
| 13:24 | what happens when you create a second vendor? | |
| 13:24 | anything in the logs? | |
| 13:25 | oleonard | Hm, yeah... tons. |
| 13:26 | basketheader.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.`aqbasket`, CONSTRAINT `aqbasket_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`booksellerid`) REFERENCES `aqbooksellers` (`id`) ON UPDATE CASCADE) at C4/Acquisition.pm line 188 | |
| 13:31 | kf | huh |
| 13:31 | when creating a new vendor? | |
| 13:31 | paul_p | can anyone tell me how to activate Recent comments view for the OPAC (allow users to see recently reviewed) ? (which syspref probably ?) |
| 13:31 | I see that for the 1st time in 3.4.0 release notes ! | |
| 13:32 | kf | paul_p: I think this is a new featuer for 3.6 actually? |
| 13:32 | not aware of that in 3.4 - but might be wrong | |
| 13:32 | paul_p | kf, well, it's in the releases notes of 3.4.0 : http://koha-community.org/koha-3-4-0-released/ |
| 13:32 | * paul_p | not aware too ;-) |
| 13:33 | kf | oh |
| 13:33 | paul_p | kf, note in your agenda we will organize a European Hackfest #2 in Marseille in march 2012 ( exact dates tbd) |
| 13:33 | oleonard | It's there and active, it just doesn't have a link |
| 13:34 | kf | bug 4473 |
| 13:34 | oleonard | opac-showreviews.pl |
| 13:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4473 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Recent comments view for the OPAC |
| 13:34 | kf | paul_p: ah, march? |
| 13:34 | paul_p | kf, yep |
| 13:34 | kf | paul_p: have you seen kohacon might take place earlier next year? |
| 13:35 | I had hoped for something in autumn perhaps :) | |
| 13:35 | paul_p | april was a little bit too late. |
| 13:35 | kf, we saw (and I hope the KohaCon will take place un UK), that was the 2nd reason to set in march = 3 months before KohaCon | |
| 13:35 | kf | hm ok |
| 13:36 | paul_p | we feel automn will be a little bit late/too far |
| 13:36 | kf | I was thinking before the next release then |
| 13:36 | but first of all: great you are doing it again! | |
| 13:38 | oleonard | It's easy enough to add a "recent comments" link alongside "advanced search," "tag cloud," etc, but should it have a system preference? |
| 13:38 | paul_p | oleonard, all other options have one, so I think yes. |
| 13:39 | I searched "recent" and "comments" in sysprefs, and could not find anything | |
| 13:40 | kf | paul_p: voting for a new system preference? ;) |
| 13:40 | but I agree - it's consistent | |
| 13:41 | paul_p | kf, yes, in french we say "exception confirm the rule" ;-) |
| 13:41 | ropuch | Same in polish ;> |
| 13:41 | kf | same in german too |
| 13:41 | 'ausnahmen bestätigen die regel' | |
| 13:42 | ropuch | I have some encoding issue on this terminal, so Ill spare you polish version in original ;> |
| 13:42 | jcamins | In English that's "the exception that proves the rule." |
| 13:45 | :) | |
| 13:48 | kf | :) |
| 13:49 | maximep | nengard: looking at your last comment on bug 6879. I have no idea of why it wouldn't work for you, unless the patch didn't apply :S |
| 13:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6879 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, pelletiermaxime, ASSIGNED , Actual price should show correctly on order line and basket summary |
| 13:50 | maximep | but if it didn't apply, it would show nothing. /me is confused |
| 13:51 | nengard | hmm |
| 13:51 | let me try a different browser | |
| 13:53 | maximep i just opened a new browser for the first time today and it's not showing ? i'm on mac and tested on FF7 and Chome | |
| 13:53 | Chrome | |
| 13:53 | not sure if that matters at all .. it shouldn't | |
| 13:53 | maximep | it's not showing ? |
| 13:53 | still 99? | |
| 13:54 | kf | nengard: perhaps check your git log? |
| 13:54 | to see if the patch is there | |
| 13:55 | * oleonard | is scatter-brained this morning |
| 13:57 | nengard | oh my ? i know what it is |
| 13:58 | the patch wasn't a txt file when i first applied and didn't realize that bz apply didn't apply it :) hehe | |
| 13:58 | but my question is this - how does it work with the other actual price patch? | |
| 13:58 | do they clash? | |
| 13:58 | maximep | is there another? |
| 14:00 | nengard | signed off |
| 14:00 | wahanui | signed off is approval |
| 14:00 | nengard | bug 4831 |
| 14:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4831 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Actual Price being ignored after receive |
| 14:01 | nengard | maximep next time you attach a patch to a bug, check the box that says 'patch' so that bugzilla knows that it's a patch file and so that it works with git bz :) |
| 14:01 | maximep | nengard: yeah, learned that. You have to show the advanced options to see that checkbox on the new bug page |
| 14:01 | so didn't see it at first :/ | |
| 14:02 | nengard | no problem! |
| 14:02 | i was sleepy this morning and didn't notice it wasn't checked so that's why the patch didn't actually apply | |
| 14:02 | maximep | I think my patch was made after 4831 |
| 14:02 | so it shouldnt clash | |
| 14:02 | but there's some stuff I don't understand in those parts of the code | |
| 14:02 | nengard | but 4831 hasn't been pushed ? has it? |
| 14:03 | oh yes it has! | |
| 14:03 | awsome | |
| 14:03 | awesome | |
| 14:04 | maximep | nengard: should bug 6414 be marked as duplicate of 6879 ? |
| 14:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6414 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , actual price not recorded when ordering |
| 14:04 | nengard | i think so |
| 14:04 | yes | |
| 14:06 | kf | oh |
| 14:06 | so you can do order and receive in one step then? right? | |
| 14:07 | when you order and fill in the actual price at the same time? | |
| 14:07 | because that would be neat :) | |
| 14:08 | maximep | my use case for doing the patch is after receiving the order |
| 14:08 | there was no way to change the actual price | |
| 14:08 | kf | yep |
| 14:08 | we are getting there in acq | |
| 14:09 | maximep | we have so many more patches in that section :/ |
| 14:09 | kf | maximep: do you have a repo for those? |
| 14:09 | new features or more bug fixes? | |
| 14:09 | maximep | no, but sending them in bug reports |
| 14:10 | both | |
| 14:11 | kf | I was thinking with a public repo perhaps some people could help porting them |
| 14:11 | maximep | we can't do a public repo of our code |
| 14:11 | kf | ok |
| 14:11 | maximep | client picks what we can send |
| 14:12 | kf | on another thing: I had someone suggesting a way to create a suggestion from a z39.50 search |
| 14:12 | like: search the staff interface > found nothing > click on z39.50 > don't import the record into the catalog, but make a suggestion from it | |
| 14:13 | good or bad idea? | |
| 14:13 | do we have a way to do that? and I missed it? | |
| 14:14 | oleonard | Do we even have a way for someone to create a suggestion from the staff interface? |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | errm |
| 14:14 | kf that's quite brilliant | |
| 14:14 | that's a good idea | |
| 14:15 | trea | ^^ |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | kf ,yes you can create a purchase suggestion |
| 14:16 | on /cgi-bin/koha/suggestion/suggestion.pl | |
| 14:16 | "new purchase suggestion" | |
| 14:16 | which you probably already found. | |
| 14:16 | oleonard | I'll bet you have to have suggestions management permission for that |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | probably |
| 14:16 | wahanui | rumour has it probably is mate, Im not running the latest version on here |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 14:16 | forget probably | |
| 14:16 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot probably |
| 14:17 | * wizzyrea | considers the word probably |
| 14:17 | kf | wizzyrea: but using an existing record or one from the reservoir? |
| 14:17 | oleonard | Not only that, suggestion management is locked into acquisition management |
| 14:17 | kf | oleonard: you can do new suggestions, but you can't use an existing record for that I think |
| 14:17 | or a downloaded one | |
| 14:17 | wizzyrea | no, that isn't curerently possible I don't think |
| 14:17 | http://screencast.com/t/tXSGto4tDmiS | |
| 14:17 | suggestion management should be locked to cataloging | |
| 14:17 | instead of ac | |
| 14:18 | kf | oleonard: not necessarily I think, only if you want to inform about ordered and available. (being locked) |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | acq |
| 14:18 | kf | perhaps we need both workflows |
| 14:18 | keep it flexible | |
| 14:18 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 14:18 | kf | we are creating items in acq and cataloging |
| 14:18 | and both makes sense | |
| 14:18 | depending on the library using it | |
| 14:18 | I am filing an enh :) | |
| 14:18 | yu can do another about unlocking hehe | |
| 14:18 | oleonard | kf: I don't see a granular permission for just suggestions |
| 14:18 | kf | oleonard: I don't think there is one |
| 14:19 | oleonard | right, I'm saying that significantly limits the ability of staff to make suggestions |
| 14:20 | kf | bug 6967 |
| 14:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6967 enhancement, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW , Create suggestion from z39.50 / existing records |
| 14:20 | wizzyrea | making suggestions should be available to circ staff. |
| 14:20 | that's just how it is | |
| 14:21 | patron says "hey do you have..." and staff says "no, let me put in your suggestion" | |
| 14:21 | kf | oleonard: not sure I can follow - what is the perm problem? |
| 14:21 | oleonard: do you need acq rights to access suggestions? | |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | doh, I'm a circ clerk, i don't have perms |
| 14:21 | that's dumb. | |
| 14:21 | kf | ah |
| 14:21 | right | |
| 14:21 | yep it should | |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | we let patrons do that |
| 14:21 | PATRONS | |
| 14:21 | kf | or they would have to use the opac form |
| 14:21 | they could do that | |
| 14:22 | or even be able to do a suggestion for a patron? | |
| 14:22 | and what would be need to is add a hold for a book | |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | right, but I don't think that's really fair |
| 14:22 | oleonard | Hmm.... from suggestion.pl: flagsrequired => { catalogue => 1 } |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | to ask the staff to log into the opac |
| 14:22 | kf | for the person suggesting it |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | just to make a suggestion |
| 14:22 | certainly the staff could train patrons to make suggestions | |
| 14:22 | patron education is always good | |
| 14:22 | kf | wizzyrea: only thinking about a workaround for now - I agree it's not the best thing |
| 14:22 | wizzyrea | right |
| 14:22 | i kno :) | |
| 14:23 | kf | wizzyrea: what about a checkbox 'place a hold for me on this suggeston'? |
| 14:23 | in the suggestion form? in opac especially | |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | that is another great idea |
| 14:23 | or "if this item is acquired, place a hold" | |
| 14:23 | but you'd have to be using acquisitions | |
| 14:23 | or have a way to link the suggestion to an eventual bib outside of acquisitions | |
| 14:24 | kf | lol |
| 14:24 | and one I had before: bug 1887 | |
| 14:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1887 enhancement, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW , Managing Suggestions - hold books for patron who requested |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | tee hee |
| 14:24 | 1887! | |
| 14:24 | kf | yep |
| 14:24 | oooold | |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | that's old! |
| 14:24 | jcamins | A good year! |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 14:25 | <3 I do that exact thing at the checkout lane at grocery stores: "Your total is 19.67" "oh, that was a great year" | |
| 14:25 | get the funniest looks. | |
| 14:25 | it would be even better if it was like | |
| 14:25 | 20.34 | |
| 14:25 | "man that was a great year for wine" | |
| 14:25 | "gotta go get in my tardis" | |
| 14:26 | kf | hehe |
| 14:26 | oleonard | "Oh yay, date of the robot invasion!" |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | ^^ heeeee! |
| 14:26 | kf | today is not friday! |
| 14:26 | back to work everyone | |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | "oh man, you don't wanna know what happens then..." |
| 14:26 | sorry sorry | |
| 14:26 | srs time is srs | |
| 14:26 | * oleonard | snickers |
| 14:27 | kf | wizzyrea: I am quoting you on the bug |
| 14:27 | oleonard | http://postimage.org/image/1uy3hltr8/ |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | suggestion.pl is one of those multi phase pages |
| 14:27 | kekeke | |
| 14:28 | which bug | |
| 14:28 | oleonard: http://www.flickr.com/photos/redhairs/4306112083/ | |
| 14:28 | kf | 1883 |
| 14:28 | um 1887 | |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | o okies |
| 14:29 | kf | on another thing |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | ic, cool. |
| 14:29 | kf | i was told we are doing it all wrong |
| 14:29 | * wizzyrea | gasps |
| 14:29 | kf | because in koha you do vendor > basket > order line |
| 14:29 | > (items) | |
| 14:30 | and it should be: items with a status ordered and a vendor and other inofrmation created | |
| 14:30 | and create orders logically from that | |
| 14:30 | by used fund or vendor | |
| 14:31 | * wizzyrea | ponders |
| 14:32 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4473] Recent comments view for the OPAC <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4473> |
| 14:32 | oleonard | Bam! |
| 14:37 | * jcamins | goes to talk about teaching [with] Koha to library students. |
| 14:37 | kf | oleonard is like batman :) |
| 14:37 | bam! | |
| 14:37 | jcamins_away | I feel like I've missed an important cultural thingy. This is the second time someone has referenced batman, and I really haven't gotten the reference either time (I know who batman is, but that's pretty much it). |
| 14:38 | oleonard | jcamins_away: Never saw the 60's TV Batman? |
| 14:39 | maximep | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomatopoeia, right ? |
| 14:39 | * oleonard | is actually referencing TV chef Emeril Lagasse via Chef Elzar on Futurama |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | spicy! |
| 14:42 | * oleonard | wonders what the other Batman reference was |
| 14:42 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6867] datelastseen is not imported from marc file <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6867> |
| 14:46 | * oleonard | says "Bam!" on behalf of druthb |
| 14:50 | trea | oh Elzar |
| 14:51 | you always knock it up a notch | |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | keke |
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| 15:02 | NateC | Hi #Koha |
| 15:02 | oleonard | paul_p, can I ask a question about the batch biblio mod tool? |
| 15:03 | paul_p | oleonard, sure |
| 15:03 | NateC | Say Hello to the New England Library Association Conference! |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | hiyas :) |
| 15:03 | oleonard | paul_p: It's not clear to me how to add a whole new tag. Is it possible? |
| 15:04 | paul_p | yes it is, but not in 1 step : 1st add a tag with 1 subfield, then add subfields |
| 15:04 | hi NateC | |
| 15:04 | oleonard | paul_p: Field [650], Subfield [Whole field], Action [Create field and subfield] ? |
| 15:05 | paul_p | yep |
| 15:05 | oleonard | What do I put in value? How does it know which subfield I'm adding? |
| 15:09 | paul_p: ? | |
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| 15:13 | paul_p | oleonard, I can't answer now, working on something else & don't have the right branch at hand to test/check |
| 15:13 | * oleonard | will wait |
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| 15:40 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6966] Update Help Files for Koha 3.6 Release <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6966> |
| 15:51 | maximep | Anyone is using tags ? Trying to use them in master in opac-detail.pl and they seem completly broken to me :S |
| 15:52 | nengard | broken how, i use them on my test system fine |
| 15:52 | maximep | looking at the code, it seems to always output Log in to add tags |
| 15:53 | but the template is hard to read as it seems to be indented completly wrong | |
| 15:58 | nengard | oleonard did you look in to the highlighting on the z39.50 search page? the partner says he knows it was there - he says maybe in 3.0 .. anyway, just wondering what you found |
| 15:59 | oleonard | 3.0? We didn't have that little inline menu in 3.0... |
| 15:59 | I tinkered with it yesterday and came up with some ideas, but nothing I'm satisfied with yet | |
| 15:59 | kf | maximep: only one library using it - in 3.2.2 - interested in problems you have found |
| 16:04 | nengard | thanks for looking |
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| 16:15 | oleonard | Somehow the bix for Bug 6576 has broken auto-fill of the leader in the MARC edit screen. I wonder if it's also behind Bug 6959 |
| 16:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6576 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , changing framework while cataloging looses data |
| 16:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6959 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Can't import record via Z39.50 from MARC edit page | |
| 16:16 | hdl1 | oleonard: what is the reason to store virtualshelves in C4::Auth session ? |
| 16:16 | oleonard: it seems weird that when ppl delete a virtualshelf or add a new one, the session param is not updated. | |
| 16:17 | is there any reason I miss ? | |
| 16:17 | oleonard | hdl1: I don't know. I vaguely remember when that was done but I don't remember the reason. |
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| 16:22 | kf | hdl: making the var accessible in lots of templates? |
| 16:23 | only guessing :( | |
| 16:23 | probably meaning something totally different, ignore me | |
| 16:23 | wizzyrea | git question: is there a way to make sure/retroactively apply tracking to a branch? |
| 16:23 | speaking of questions that don't make sense | |
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| 16:31 | hdl1 | kf: it could be interesting if it could be updated when virtualshelves are updated. |
| 16:31 | But the current behaviour is misleading. | |
| 16:32 | oleonard | Fun.... viewing source on addbiblio.pl crashes my Firefox :| |
| 16:32 | hdl1 | ah:D |
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| 16:35 | * Oak | waves |
| 16:35 | kf | hi Oak :) |
| 16:35 | Oak | hello kf :] |
| 16:35 | kf | seems the next shift is here... time to leave :) |
| 16:35 | bye all | |
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| 16:37 | oleonard | Heh, almost crashed Chrome too. |
| 16:37 | wizzyrea | O.O |
| 16:39 | oleonard | This could be an indication that our MARC editor could slim down a bit |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 16:43 | how did I not know that you can batch edit from a list | |
| 16:43 | * wizzyrea | facepalms |
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| 16:48 | oleonard | Yeah, looks to me like the fix for Bug 6576 is the cause of Bug 6959. |
| 16:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6576 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , changing framework while cataloging looses data |
| 16:48 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6959 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Can't import record via Z39.50 from MARC edit page | |
| 16:48 | wizzyrea | frownyface |
| 16:48 | can we fix both? | |
| 16:48 | sorry that's a dumb question | |
| 16:48 | are they mutually exclusive? | |
| 16:49 | oleonard | I assume not, but I haven't actually examined the changes in 6576, just isolated the offending commit |
| 16:49 | git_bisect++ | |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 16:53 | sekjal | oleonard: hmmm, if that's the case, this is my fault. will look into a solution |
| 16:56 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6954] z39.50 results highlighting not sticking <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6954> |
| 16:56 | sekjal | I think I found the problem with 6959 |
| 16:56 | framework code | |
| 16:57 | * wizzyrea | probably had something to do with it too |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | oleonard: how do you even get to the batch bib edit |
| 16:57 | i'm looking at the patch, I'm mystified. | |
| 16:57 | oleonard | From the tools page |
| 16:58 | Just below batch item edit and delete | |
| 17:02 | What makes a set of data (for instance, issues data) available to a notice? | |
| 17:04 | sekjal | oleonard: depends on the notice |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | i feel like I'm taking crazy pills |
| 17:05 | I've applied the patch for bug 5725, plus owen's follow up | |
| 17:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Batch modifications for Biblios |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | and I don't see any of it |
| 17:06 | * wizzyrea | blames sunspots |
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| 17:06 | oleonard | You don't have the link on the tools page? |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | no |
| 17:06 | * wizzyrea | will try it again |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | i must have done something dumb. it's been one of those kind of days. |
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| 17:07 | oleonard | Works for me after applying the patches on a fresh branch |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | i'll do it again. |
| 17:07 | oleonard | wizzyrea: Permissions problem? |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | no, my user is a superlibrarian. |
| 17:08 | cait | hi again all :) |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea | hi cait |
| 17:19 | well something has gone wrong on my test server apparently | |
| 17:19 | * wizzyrea | gives in to the universe and runs screaming |
| 17:20 | cait | ? |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | seems like the tech gremlins are out in force this week |
| 17:21 | I've had about enough of it | |
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| 17:26 | sekjal | patch for 6959 sent |
| 17:27 | cait | bug 6959 |
| 17:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6959 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Can't import record via Z39.50 from MARC edit page |
| 17:28 | nengard_lunch | oleonard do you want to test 6959? |
| 17:28 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6959] Can't import record via Z39.50 from MARC edit page <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6959> |
| 17:29 | * oleonard | will |
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| 17:31 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 17:32 | nengard | anyone have any strong opinions on bug 6954? |
| 17:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6954 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , z39.50 results highlighting not sticking |
| 17:32 | nengard | hi Brooke |
| 17:33 | Brooke | the only feeling I have on that |
| 17:33 | is that I don't think it properly counts as a new feature | |
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| 17:36 | Oak | Brooke !!! |
| 17:36 | Brooke | Oak! |
| 17:36 | What a nice surpise | |
| 17:36 | Oak | really? |
| 17:36 | :) | |
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| 18:06 | veel28 | hi, I would like to find out if 1) librarian can input chinese (& english) characters into koha, 2) can koha run on mac 3)can user access koha remotely? |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | re: 2, you mean the server can run on mac? or the user can use it from a mac? |
| 18:08 | 3. users can always access koha remotely, as long as they have access to the server. | |
| 18:08 | veel28 | server can run on mac |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | I'm sure it can be done, but it's probably not optimal. |
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| 18:09 | veel28 | what about chines characters? can the library input Chinese chracters onto Koha? |
| 18:09 | wizzyrea | I don't see why not, but I'm definitely not an encoding/languages expert |
| 18:10 | veel28 | Thanks so much for the quick response, by the way. |
| 18:10 | ropuch | Why not? |
| 18:10 | ;> | |
| 18:10 | * wizzyrea | moans about how there are a zillion things to know about koha and one person can't know them all (except maybe rangi_ |
| 18:12 | jcamins_away | veel28: I would recommend against trying to run the server on a Mac, although it's probably _possible_. |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | you would probably be better off running a virtualbox on your mac |
| 18:12 | with debian in it | |
| 18:13 | sekjal | veel28: running Koha on a Mac server would be.... VERY challenging |
| 18:13 | if you can get it working, we'd love to see your notes | |
| 18:13 | veel28 | Thanks. Good to know. |
| 18:13 | sekjal | but some of the dependencies may have to be compiled from scratch |
| 18:32 | oleonard | sekjal: Signed off. I guess I'll file another bug for the leader autofill bug. |
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| 18:38 | Brooke | do we draw our facets from GSAFD? http://alcme.oclc.org/gsafd/OA[…]dataPrefix=z39_19 |
| 18:39 | or are they pulled from the records themselves which either draw on that or our collective beans? | |
| 18:42 | oleonard | Brooke: facets are drawn from the records in the search results |
| 18:42 | Brooke | ta |
| 18:43 | oleonard | Bug 6970 is the weirdest bug I've seen in a whlie |
| 18:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6970 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , logout not redirecting to login page |
| 18:44 | oleonard | Wasn't Firefox 7 supposed to be a big improvement? Mine has been so sluggish... |
| 18:48 | * magnuse | hasn't noticed any great differences, except http:// is hidden in the URL "field" |
| 18:48 | rangi | morning |
| 18:49 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 18:49 | rangi | ata marie magnuse |
| 18:49 | magnuse | yay |
| 18:50 | rangi | ohh some kiva credit available |
| 18:52 | koha group has loaned out over 300 now | |
| 18:52 | cait | :) |
| 18:58 | * magnuse | *should* get around to engaging with kiva some day soon |
| 18:58 | Brooke | morena rangi |
| 18:59 | rangi | heya Brooke |
| 19:02 | hdl joined #koha | |
| 19:03 | cait | magnuse: it's easy - register, get money, loan |
| 19:05 | rangi | hmm |
| 19:05 | magnuse | cait: yeah, i know... but how do you figure out who to give loans to? |
| 19:05 | rangi | isn't there a delete/edit link on news items? |
| 19:05 | in the staff client? | |
| 19:06 | oleonard | Yes, if you have the right permissions |
| 19:06 | cait | magnuse: that's the hardest part, but not so hard. you can do it. |
| 19:06 | * rangi | fails to understand the mail to the mailing list |
| 19:09 | cait | which? |
| 19:09 | oleonard | Did you respond rangi? |
| 19:10 | sekjal | anyone know why Koha's sessions don't expire? |
| 19:10 | rangi | nope oleonard |
| 19:10 | * oleonard | will |
| 19:10 | jcamins | So I was just talking with Thomas Krichel. He thought that the packages were configured such that only one Zebra daemon was indexing multiple databases. Is this true? |
| 19:11 | rangi | no |
| 19:11 | magnuse | cait: maybe i'll ask for some advice one of these days |
| 19:11 | ;-) | |
| 19:11 | jcamins | rangi: okay, that's what I thought, thanks. |
| 19:11 | sekjal | CGI::Session has an expire() function that will delete the server-side session after some period of time |
| 19:11 | rangi | yep |
| 19:11 | but we use an inactivity timeout | |
| 19:12 | does it check that? | |
| 19:12 | not an absolute timeout | |
| 19:13 | * rangi | uses memcached for sessions, inactive ones get cleaned up for free |
| 19:13 | rangi | plus a lot less db noise |
| 19:13 | bbiab | |
| 19:13 | my stop | |
| 19:16 | sekjal | rangi: CGI::Session->expire() uses relative timeout |
| 19:20 | rangi | cool, the only issue with that then, would be it wont change the timeout if the syspref changes, but thats ok |
| 19:21 | sekjal | rangi: perhaps setting it as a longer-term fallback value |
| 19:21 | like a day | |
| 19:21 | just so the system doesn't clutter up | |
| 19:21 | not an issue with memcached, I know | |
| 19:21 | rangi | yup |
| 19:21 | sekjal | and we've got the cronjob for mysql |
| 19:21 | but for /tmp | |
| 19:22 | one needs a separate cron that's not bundled with Koha | |
| 19:22 | or regular restarts | |
| 19:22 | rangi | yep, couldnt hurt |
| 19:22 | a day of inactivity seems like a decent fallback | |
| 19:22 | sekjal | and it looks like each time get_session is called, it creates a new session |
| 19:23 | oh, no | |
| 19:23 | reading further | |
| 19:23 | the second param always for reading existing | |
| 19:24 | wow, it feels like 5 or 6 in the evening already, for some reason | |
| 19:24 | rangi | heh |
| 19:24 | oleonard joined #koha | |
| 19:25 | * oleonard | wonders what that disconnection was about |
| 19:25 | Brooke | it's only half 8 in the morning. toughen up mate. ;) |
| 19:26 | magnuse | sekjal: i betcha it is 5 or 6 in the evening somewhere... ;-) |
| 19:26 | sekjal | Greenland? |
| 19:26 | Brooke | it's beer o clock in Brasil |
| 19:26 | ibeardslee | only 1/2 8, but still feel like I'm overdue on about 3 cups of coffee |
| 19:27 | magnuse | sekjal: probably |
| 19:27 | oleonard | I was able to log out just fine a moment ago, and now I can't once again. |
| 19:32 | Brooke | "For instance, 1,970 fiction access points were employed by online bookstores: 1,005 by Amazon.com and 965 by Barnes and Noble. The two reader advisory databases used a combined total of 1,381 access points, and the two library OPACs only 1,104." |
| 19:32 | rangi | man, theres a crapload of stuff on the agenda for the meeting |
| 19:32 | Brooke | yep |
| 19:32 | yep there is | |
| 19:32 | jcamins | Wait, is there a meeting today? |
| 19:32 | Brooke | tomorrow |
| 19:32 | wahanui | somebody said tomorrow was pizza friday! |
| 19:33 | Brooke | somebody lied, waha |
| 19:33 | magnuse | i wish, wahanui |
| 19:33 | wahanui | magnuse: what? |
| 19:33 | jcamins | wahanui: tomorrow is also the day after today. |
| 19:33 | wahanui | okay, jcamins. |
| 19:33 | rangi | in about 15 hours |
| 19:33 | magnuse | whoever is going to chair better do so with an iron fist... ;-) |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Good thing Brooke is going to be doing that. :) |
| 19:34 | Very iron-fisted, is Brooke. | |
| 19:34 | Brooke | am I really driving the bus again? |
| 19:34 | rangi | hmmm interesting |
| 19:34 | wahanui | interesting is good |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Brooke: apparently so. |
| 19:34 | rangi | https://www.careerbuilder.com/[…]I3Z2757LG90M7P555 |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Someone just said that. |
| 19:36 | rangi | also |
| 19:36 | http://www.geeklawblog.com/201[…]urce-library.html | |
| 19:38 | magnuse | "Koha is an amazing Integrated Library System (ILS)" |
| 19:38 | agreed | |
| 19:39 | * oleonard | wonders if he has what it takes to be a CYBER CODER |
| 19:40 | puts his resume on his Jazz drive and heads for CA | |
| 19:40 | phlunk3 joined #koha | |
| 19:41 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:41 | phlunk3 | morning o/ |
| 19:41 | rangi | hey phlunk3 |
| 19:41 | wahanui | i guess phlunk3 is being asked if I want marc21 or unimarc, so I guess I need to go and look at the old server and see what was used there, does anyone know where I can see that info? |
| 19:42 | cait | forget phlunk3 |
| 19:42 | wahanui | cait: I forgot phlunk3 |
| 19:42 | phlunk3 | :( don't forget me guys. |
| 19:42 | Brooke | aww <3 |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | how could we possibly ;) |
| 19:43 | phlunk3 | I even came today without any stupid questions :) |
| 19:43 | * wizzyrea | didn't realize that stupid questions existed |
| 19:44 | magnuse | the only stupid questions are the ones that don't get asked ;-) |
| 19:44 | sekjal | bug 6970: I think I know what it may be |
| 19:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6970 major, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , logout not redirecting to login page |
| 19:44 | phlunk3 | okay okay, I didn't come with a question I forgot the answer to after asking it just days ago (ie, I came, less stupidly?) |
| 19:45 | magnuse | you came, that's all that matters ;-) |
| 19:48 | rangi | what was for lunch melia ? |
| 19:50 | melia | roasted veggies (potatoes, carrots, parsnip, beetroot), pattypan squash (breaded and fried), and a steamed vegetable medley of broccoli, yellow wax beans, and red capsicum |
| 19:50 | (lots of side item dinner leftovers) | |
| 19:50 | Brooke | mmmmm capsicum |
| 19:50 | magnuse | wow, that's some lunch! |
| 19:50 | rangi | yum |
| 19:51 | * magnuse | just had the first lamb chops of the season for dinner :-) |
| 19:51 | * Brooke | drools. |
| 19:51 | Brooke | Balducci's had a squash stuffed with wild rice that I nearly got, but I was jonesin for my usual. |
| 19:59 | oleonard | sekjal: Strange that the delBasket function didn't cause the error in previous FF versions |
| 19:59 | * magnuse | wishes #koha a good time of the day |
| 20:00 | oleonard | I wonder if the redirect to about:blank is an attempt to complete the cookie operation |
| 20:11 | Hmmm... I might pop in, but meeting time is getting kids ready for school time for me, so don't count on me. | |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | same here |
| 20:11 | oleonard | until then, |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | farewelloweni'mgoingtobeatyou |
| 20:11 | sigh | |
| 20:12 | cait | meetin is tomorrow, right? |
| 20:12 | around 14 hours away? | |
| 20:18 | rangi | brb, new person just started |
| 20:19 | hdl joined #koha | |
| 20:21 | sekjal | cait: yes |
| 20:21 | egad, 5am EST | |
| 20:22 | cait | egad? |
| 20:22 | sekjal | an expression of dismay |
| 20:22 | cait | oh |
| 20:22 | I had worse | |
| 20:22 | sekjal | it's going to be a long Wednesday |
| 20:22 | cait | worse time for me is 4 am |
| 20:22 | sekjal | that would be worse, yes |
| 20:23 | though it's 2am for California | |
| 20:23 | probably won't be seeing that end of the ByWater team in attendance | |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Not sure you'll be seeing me. |
| 20:23 | cait | important meeting - hope people will get up |
| 20:23 | bg | yeah no kidding |
| 20:23 | hi jcamins | |
| 20:23 | heya cait | |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Hey there, bg. |
| 20:24 | * wizzyrea | tries to decide if she's staying up, or getting up |
| 20:24 | cait | hi bg |
| 20:24 | :) | |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea: no matter what you do - I will wait with virtual cookied and coffee :) | |
| 20:25 | bg | jcamins I was in NY last week - I meant to see if you were busy - sorry about that -- but it was great to be there |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:25 | bg | I love NYC |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | bg? |
| 20:25 | wahanui | I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 20:25 | trea? | |
| 20:25 | wahanui | trea is the support in the darkness. The watcher of tickets. He is the fire that brings status updates, the light that illuminates customers, the horn that wakes the devs, the shield that guards the realms of nerds. |
| 20:25 | jcamins | bg: oh, I'm sorry I missed you! |
| 20:25 | bg: get to do anything fun? | |
| 20:26 | bg | jcamins: it was a really busy week - and my friend has a new baby that I got to meet |
| 20:26 | yup I stopped by carnegie deli | |
| 20:26 | ;) | |
| 20:26 | jcamins | Mmm. |
| 20:26 | * jcamins | loves the Carnegie Deli. |
| 20:26 | bg | I really miss the good jewish deli's out here |
| 20:26 | jcamins | Stage deli is good too. |
| 20:26 | As is Ben's. | |
| 20:26 | * jcamins | wants a pastrami sandwich now. |
| 20:26 | bg | and I got a great slice |
| 20:26 | been awhile on that | |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Yeah, there are definitely food benefits to NYC. |
| 20:30 | cait | hm |
| 20:32 | ropuch | Hm, anybody using Lokalize? I have script that shows translated entry in context (file in whicg term occurs opened with sepcific line), but cannot get rid of annoing 'Cannot open source files: no scripts to do so are currently loaded' |
| 20:32 | Which is poping even with script working ;> | |
| 20:32 | bg | well I hope all is well jcamins :) been a little while since I've been in channel |
| 20:33 | jcamins | Yeah, things are going pretty well. Very busy dotting 'i's and crossing 't's, and introducing myself to all and sundry. :) |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | any idea what the holdup is on 6253? |
| 20:36 | jcamins | bug 6253 |
| 20:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6253 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , Unified Patron Search subroutine |
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| 20:38 | rangi | cait: bug 6958 has a patch now |
| 20:38 | bg | most likely testing? |
| 20:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6958 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Missing spaces in translated templates |
| 20:39 | rangi | wizzyrea: thats pushed |
| 20:39 | in june | |
| 20:39 | oh no it isnt | |
| 20:39 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6958] Missing spaces in translated templates <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6958> |
| 20:39 | rangi | im looking at the wrong |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea: just waiting qa | |
| 20:40 | nengard left #koha | |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | cool. I'll poke the qa guy. |
| 20:43 | actually - can I get someone else to sign off on that | |
| 20:43 | it's a plea, you know you want to | |
| 20:43 | it'd be fuuuun | |
| 20:45 | ropuch | rangi: do you have any understanding of c/cpp? |
| 20:45 | rangi | cpp? |
| 20:46 | ropuch | c++ |
| 20:46 | rangi | enough to not want to ever touch it again :) |
| 20:46 | ropuch | hehe |
| 20:46 | Q_SCRIPTABLE void setSrcFileOpenRequestAccepted(bool a){m_srcFileOpenRequestAccepted=a;} | |
| 20:46 | bool m_srcFileOpenRequestAccepted; | |
| 20:47 | I think it must be set to something after setSrcFileOpenRequest is succes | |
| 20:48 | rangi | i think that variable name needs more letters |
| 20:48 | ropuch | But I'm not sure what 'bool a' is |
| 20:48 | jcamins | AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! It's that library that KDE is based on? |
| 20:48 | That would have been so much more dramatic if I knew what it was called. | |
| 20:48 | ropuch | jcamins: nah, I'm trying to script lokalize to show context of transted entry in po file |
| 20:49 | rangi | ropuch: i just use poedit |
| 20:49 | ropuch | And I've done that, but there;'s this annoing popup alert |
| 20:49 | rangi: I switched do Lokalize ;> | |
| 20:49 | jcamins | ropuch: I don't see any problem with that method definition. |
| 20:49 | rangi | sekjal: fwiw i agree with owen 6954 can go in 3.6.0 |
| 20:50 | eythian | http://www.classnamer.com/ |
| 20:50 | rangi | void ThisVariableHasTooManyWordsInItOMGWTFBBQ |
| 20:50 | ropuch | Yea :) |
| 20:51 | sekjal | rangi: cool, thanks. shall I mark it Passed QA, or give the community a little longer for a dissenting opinion? |
| 20:51 | rangi | maybe give it a day |
| 20:51 | sekjal | k |
| 20:51 | cait | bug 6954 |
| 20:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6954 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , z39.50 results highlighting not sticking |
| 20:52 | cait | wish you people would use the word bug more often :P |
| 20:52 | ah, that's nice to have yes | |
| 20:55 | ropuch | rangi: can poedit open src file for translated entry? |
| 20:55 | rangi | probably not |
| 20:55 | i havent tried | |
| 20:55 | ropuch | Lokalize is only kde app on my box and I would gladly get rid of it |
| 20:56 | Bah | |
| 20:56 | rangi | have you tried gtranslator? |
| 20:56 | i dunno if that can either | |
| 20:56 | ropuch | yup |
| 20:56 | jcamins | ropuch: if you're trying to understand QT source (I remembered!), you're pretty much on your own, at least as far as my help is concerned. |
| 20:57 | ropuch | jcamins: apart from creepy c source files, documentation on Lokalize simply does not exist ;> |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | cait: http://screencast.com/t/LLmbuIHX |
| 21:06 | cait | hm? :) |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | lookie |
| 21:06 | cait | aaaw |
| 21:06 | that was the idea -really :) | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | ppls here are pretty excited. |
| 21:07 | cait | i did that once using jquery |
| 21:07 | it was terrible | |
| 21:07 | rangi | what bug was that? |
| 21:07 | cait | adding css classes to the lables |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | the one that added css classes to the xslt |
| 21:07 | cait | labels |
| 21:07 | rangi | i really need to finish my openlibrary stuff, so it can pull in ebooks from there too |
| 21:07 | ah cool | |
| 21:07 | yay cait ! | |
| 21:07 | cait | something easy :) |
| 21:08 | rangi | easy but useful |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | extremely |
| 21:08 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 454 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | everybody wants to poke at the way it looks |
| 21:08 | cait | I pondered how to make it possible to hide the analytics links |
| 21:08 | and thought it might be better than adding yet another syspref | |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | why can't you hide them with css if you want? |
| 21:10 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6867: Date last seen ignored on import <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]55b4bb6a50e5d26a8> |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | i mean, why can't you add a class to the analytics links |
| 21:11 | * wizzyrea | ponders the need for a opacusercss library on the wiki |
| 21:11 | rangi | seems like a good idea to me |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | intranetusercss too |
| 21:11 | rangi | yes |
| 21:11 | id love a heres some colour for the intranet css | |
| 21:11 | cos it makes me sad | |
| 21:11 | its all severe | |
| 21:12 | and DO YOUR WORK | |
| 21:12 | cait | wizzyrea: now you can :) |
| 21:12 | rangi | at the moment |
| 21:12 | cait | wizzyrea: that's the solution for my problem |
| 21:12 | analytics {display:none} :) | |
| 21:12 | but this way it makes even more people happy | |
| 21:12 | eythian | http://blingee.com/ <-- just run the logo through this |
| 21:13 | cait | ouch |
| 21:13 | * cait | has gone blind |
| 21:13 | rangi | heh |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | oh my lord eythian |
| 21:13 | please god no | |
| 21:13 | cait | where do you find stuff like that? |
| 21:13 | * wizzyrea | scolds eythian heartily |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | don't make me get out my teacher finger. |
| 21:14 | cait | germs? |
| 21:14 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 21:14 | eythian | I memorised the internet |
| 21:14 | cait | wizzyrea: can you scold him for that too? |
| 21:14 | if oyu are on it right now? | |
| 21:14 | * wizzyrea | gets out the teacher finger on eythian |
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| 21:14 | * wizzyrea | shakes it sternly |
| 21:14 | cait | hehe |
| 21:14 | hi hguewmLibrarian | |
| 21:14 | hguewmLibrarian | dear koha ninja-gurus |
| 21:14 | * hguewmLibrarian | waves at Cait |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | wb ;) |
| 21:15 | hguewmLibrarian | yesterday i was having issue with automating a ftp script to auto-backup the koha database remotely |
| 21:15 | i found a solution | |
| 21:15 | thought I'd share... | |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | cait: I think the CSS hide is perfectly fine |
| 21:15 | oo yay | |
| 21:15 | sharing! | |
| 21:15 | * wizzyrea | likes sharing |
| 21:15 | hguewmLibrarian | there's a little program called ncftp |
| 21:15 | cait | wizzyrea: hehe it IS - but that was the reason for my patch |
| 21:15 | hguewmLibrarian | using the LCI |
| 21:15 | you can automate it in one line | |
| 21:15 | * wizzyrea | starts the opacusercss wiki page |
| 21:15 | cait | in german I would say 'wir reden aneinander vorbei' |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | ah yea I've seen that |
| 21:16 | hdl | have a good night / day |
| 21:16 | eythian | hguewmLibrarian: I just expose /var/spool/koha through the webserver and password protect it. |
| 21:16 | every so often, script a wget of that | |
| 21:16 | hguewmLibrarian | :) |
| 21:16 | ncftpput -u myname -p mypassword otherhost . foo upload files | |
| 21:16 | ncftpget -u myname -p mypassword otherhost . bar download files | |
| 21:16 | very cool eythian | |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | poor hguewmLibrarian is trying to target a windows server |
| 21:16 | hguewmLibrarian | all fixed. and targetted. |
| 21:17 | nasty windows servers | |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | i mean, he *has* targeted a windows server. |
| 21:17 | I have a target on my wall | |
| 21:17 | that's got windows stickers on it | |
| 21:17 | hguewmLibrarian | there you go... knowledge for the masses |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | for my windows kills MUA HA HA HA HA |
| 21:17 | sorry. I'll be quiet now. | |
| 21:18 | eythian | yeah right |
| 21:18 | rangi | heh |
| 21:19 | hguewmLibrarian | so there you go |
| 21:19 | rangi | http://interface-7.net/2003012[…]w&Submit=Tui+Says |
| 21:20 | hguewmLibrarian | muchas gracias koha ninja-gurus |
| 21:20 | hguewmLibrarian left #koha | |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | lol, seems like you did it yourself |
| 21:20 | bother. | |
| 21:23 | jcamins | Didn't I fix bug 6971? |
| 21:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6971 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , XSLT Opac Detail displays 245 subfields out of order |
| 21:23 | rangi | hmmm i seem to recall something liket hat |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | i wonder if we fixed it from ahb to abh |
| 21:25 | rangi | git blame (or git log) will probably tell ya |
| 21:25 | jcamins | wizzyrea: no, I would definitely have gone the other way. |
| 21:26 | Oh, I bet I know what happened. | |
| 21:26 | I tried to fix it, then realized it was impossible without redoing the stylesheet, and gave up. | |
| 21:30 | rangi | :) |
| 21:31 | meeting time, bbiab | |
| 21:33 | maximep | do you this would still work on master ? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS |
| 21:33 | *do you think | |
| 21:34 | phlunk3 | got a question, when importing a marc record. "koha default item type" this should never get auto filled? Like, is the librarian expected to choose this each time they import, or is the system supposed to fill this due to knowing data from the marc record? |
| 21:40 | jcamins | The librarian would have to fill it in. Item type might or might not correspond with any data instrinsic to the record. |
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| 21:43 | jcamins | Question: does anyone have any utilities for automagically pulling records into Koha using ISBN? Most of the time I work with materials that predate ISBN by, well, centuries, but every so often I'm asked to look at collections that have a significant percentage of new books, and for those original cataloging isn't really necessary. |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | our libraries do it using z39.50 |
| 21:44 | jcamins | wizzyrea: automagically, or by going through the z39.50 interface in cataloging? |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | ^^ that |
| 21:45 | jcamins | Ah. Yeah, that's what I've been doing, but when we start talking about thousands of books, it gets silly. |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | well there's marcedit :P |
| 21:46 | jcamins | Ooh. |
| 21:46 | Do you know, I hadn't thought of that. | |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | i think it's got a handy dandy z39.50 interface in it |
| 21:47 | too | |
| 21:47 | jcamins | Yeah, I believe it does. |
| 21:48 | * jcamins | considers a batch processor that works off-line, and associates a picture of the cover and a location/collection/callnumber/barcode with the ISBN, for a cross-check when processing the cataloging after the fact. |
| 21:50 | dreams big. :) | |
| 21:50 | jcamins | Seems to me that shouldn't be so hard to do. |
| 21:50 | Name the pictures with the ISBN, easy peasy. | |
| 21:51 | sekjal | jcamins: there is a batch Z39.50 script which takes in a list of ISBNs |
| 21:52 | jcamins | sekjal: that's a good start. :) Do you know where it is? |
| 21:53 | sekjal | jcamins: looking |
| 21:53 | jcamins | sekjal: thanks. |
| 21:53 | cait | I think eythian has been working on somehting like that too |
| 21:55 | sekjal | http://librarypolice.com/wiki.[…]z3950_server.html |
| 21:56 | jcamins | Awesome, thanks! |
| 21:56 | sekjal++ | |
| 21:56 | ropuch | Awesome indeed, it'll save me ages of work [; |
| 21:56 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #454: SUCCESS in 48 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/454/ |
| 21:56 | ruth: Bug 6867: Date last seen ignored on import | |
| 21:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6867 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , datelastseen is not imported from marc file |
| 22:16 | phlunk3 | on the marc record import system, can I set a default value for "koha default item type" so that it is always set? |
| 22:16 | rangi | not that i know of |
| 22:17 | eythian | phlunk3: it's by design |
| 22:17 | (sorta) | |
| 22:17 | people don't change the default when they should if they aren't forced to | |
| 22:17 | phlunk3 | yeah I thought so as well, someone here was asking :) |
| 22:18 | or rather, spending an hour googling it instead of asking you guys lol. | |
| 22:18 | irc-shy colleagues ;) | |
| 22:18 | eythian | heh |
| 22:18 | rangi | heh most of them know me :) they dont need to be shy |
| 22:19 | phlunk3 | btw, you guys are also in charge of koha.org right? |
| 22:19 | cait | no,we are not |
| 22:20 | jcamins | The Koha website is koha-community.org. |
| 22:20 | rangi | koha.org is controlled by a company hostile to the Koha project, and the community around it |
| 22:20 | eythian | wahanui: koha.org is <reply>the first rule of Koha is that you don't talk about koha.org |
| 22:20 | wahanui | ...but koha.org is old, out of date, and under the control of a hostile company... |
| 22:20 | rangi | :) |
| 22:21 | eythian | wahanui: literal koha.org |
| 22:21 | wahanui | eythian: koha.org =is= old, out of date, and under the control of a hostile company |
| 22:21 | phlunk3 | ahh. which website is the official koha site? |
| 22:21 | rangi | koha-community.org |
| 22:21 | wahanui | koha-community.org is actually updated and right |
| 22:21 | jcamins | koha-community.org. |
| 22:21 | wahanui | i heard koha-community.org was actually updated and right |
| 22:21 | eythian | no wahanui, koha.org is old, out of date, and under the control of a hostile company|controlled by a company hostile to the Koha project, and the community around it|<reply>the first rule of Koha is that you don't talk about koha.org |
| 22:21 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 22:22 | jcamins | koha.org? |
| 22:22 | wahanui | koha.org is, like, old, out of date, and under the control of a hostile company |
| 22:22 | jcamins | koha.org? |
| 22:22 | wahanui | rumour has it koha.org is old, out of date, and under the control of a hostile company |
| 22:22 | jcamins | koha.org? |
| 22:22 | wahanui | koha.org is old, out of date, and under the control of a hostile company |
| 22:22 | * jcamins | stops. |
| 22:22 | eythian | koha.org |
| 22:22 | wahanui | the first rule of Koha is that you don't talk about koha.org |
| 22:22 | eythian | jcamins: you do it like that |
| 22:22 | phlunk3 | thanks, anyway, am I fine to steal content explaining what koha is from that site and use it on my own site? I am just making a small site which will outline some open source projects briefly amongst over things and am really lazy with writing ;) |
| 22:22 | jcamins | eythian: how did you do that? |
| 22:22 | eythian | jcamins: magic |
| 22:24 | rangi | phlunk3: yep just provide attribution, and a link back |
| 22:25 | phlunk3 | ofcourse, txtx. |
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| 22:36 | eythian | "zcat ashs.sql.bz2 | sudo koha-mysql ashs" ... I wish I'd written that koha-mysql script ages ago, it's much more useful than I thought it would be. |
| 22:36 | although I guess it should be bzcat | |
| 22:36 | rangi | yup |
| 22:36 | that script is in the packages? | |
| 22:36 | eythian | yeah |
| 22:36 | just the newer ones | |
| 22:36 | rangi | cool |
| 22:39 | jcamins | eythian: ooh, brilliant! |
| 22:39 | eythian | jcamins: I had one running the other day that used it to stream a dump from one machine, via my desktop over ssh, onto another. |
| 22:39 | (the two machines can't talk to each other, but my desktop can) | |
| 22:40 | it saves the whole wait for the dump, wait for the reload process. | |
| 22:40 | rangi | *nod* |
| 22:40 | trick | |
| 22:41 | jcamins | That's really cool. |
| 22:41 | Exceedingly, even. | |
| 22:46 | cait | hm |
| 22:48 | jcamins | Grr. |
| 22:48 | The problem with it finally being cool out is that now butter won't soften. | |
| 22:49 | rangi | heh |
| 22:49 | nuke? | |
| 22:49 | jcamins | The type of cookie I want to bake is very finicky, and they come out funny if you nuke the butter. |
| 22:49 | rangi | ahh bummer |
| 22:50 | jcamins | I may make a different kind of cookie instead. |
| 22:50 | rangi | rest on top of the oven? |
| 22:50 | jcamins | Or decide I don't care. ;) |
| 22:50 | Yeah, that's a possibility. | |
| 22:50 | In fact, that's probably what I'm going to do, because I really want sandtarts. | |
| 22:50 | rangi | :) |
| 22:51 | cait | mmmh |
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| 22:54 | jcamins | Oh my. The stock markets are predicting a recession. |
| 22:54 | I am shocked. | |
| 22:54 | Truly, I thought the global economy was booming. | |
| 22:54 | rangi | heh |
| 22:54 | jcamins | Is reporting as bad in NZ as it is in the States? |
| 22:54 | ibeardslee | 'the stock markets' or 'the people manipulating the stock markets'? |
| 22:55 | worse .. we have an idiot PM that things all is well | |
| 22:55 | s/things/thinks/ | |
| 22:55 | rangi | jcamins: yeah, its bad the world over afaict, a good article is the exception not the rule |
| 22:55 | journalism is a dead art | |
| 22:55 | ibeardslee | .. .. of course that's giving him the benefit of the doubt that he actually thinks |
| 22:56 | rangi | http://i.imgur.com/856Xz.jpg |
| 22:56 | courtesy of eythian | |
| 22:57 | jcamins | Is it bad that I can't tell for sure whether that's a real tabloid cover or not? |
| 22:57 | rangi | hehe yeah |
| 22:58 | jcamins | It'd be hysterical, if it weren't for that bit of doubt that says "but, that could be real." |
| 22:58 | rangi | unfortunately it kinda is real |
| 22:58 | thats how this election is being run | |
| 22:59 | its about the quietest general election i can remember | |
| 23:00 | jcamins | Yikes. |
| 23:03 | eythian | pity the main competing party can't campaign its way out of a paper bag at the moment, either. |
| 23:03 | rangi | yeah |
| 23:03 | ppl like its policies, the polls show | |
| 23:03 | hate all the ppl presenting them | |
| 23:04 | they have an easy run | |
| 23:04 | no asset sales, capital gains tax | |
| 23:04 | but everyone just goes, 'phill goff i hate that guy' | |
| 23:04 | (i do too) | |
| 23:05 | jcamins | And no one in the party noticed that they had an unpopular candidate when discussing the nomination? |
| 23:07 | rangi | they seem to be a pretty retarded party |
| 23:07 | and often seem to forget they are in opposition | |
| 23:07 | youre supposed to oppose things, not cave like a stack of cards on every damn issue | |
| 23:08 | jcamins | Really? Well, darn, I guess I got opposition wrong. |
| 23:08 | rangi | :) |
| 23:09 | * jcamins | goes back to the drawing board, and comes up with a new slogan for the opposition party: "We think you're probably doing it wrong, even if we proposed that bill." |
| 23:10 | ibeardslee | they have shown themselves to be fairly impotent .. pretty sad really, Helen was a driver, but lost it by getting carried way with the nanny state |
| 23:12 | I think that has driven people towards the green party | |
| 23:14 | The greens seem to have suddenly grown up .. not fully sure if it from having to grow up because they are now a viable alternative .. or if them being a viable alternative is because they have grown up | |
| 23:14 | .. ... anyway, I should take that into #nzpolitics | |
| 23:14 | rangi | :-) |
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| 23:15 | rangi | this is the big issue at the election for me |
| 23:16 | http://publicaddress.net/referendum/tool/ | |
| 23:17 | eythian | I don't get the fact it's an issue. It's only a small number of noisy people who want STV isn't it? |
| 23:18 | rangi | i think quite a few want to go back to FPP |
| 23:18 | hopefully not that many | |
| 23:19 | eythian | err |
| 23:19 | yeah, FPP, not STV | |
| 23:20 | ibeardslee | that tool has some very tricky questions |
| 23:21 | Q6 .. one party is ideal .. but needs to represent the majority of voters | |
| 23:24 | rangi | yeah |
| 23:24 | in the ideal world yeah | |
| 23:30 | ibeardslee | But I just can't find that option 'ibeardslee as Benevolent Dictator for Life" |
| 23:31 | eythian | yeah, I was looking for that too. |
| 23:32 | (in order to put "strongly disagree" on it) | |
| 23:32 | rangi | heh |
| 23:37 | http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/F[…]nagement/ba-p/440 | |
| 23:37 | “The other thing—and it's kind of related—that people seem to get wrong is to think that the code they write is what matters,” says Torvalds. Most software development managers have seen this one. “No, even if you wrote 100% of the code, and even if you are the best programmer in the world and will never need any help with the project at all, the thing that really matters is the users of the code. The code itself is unimportant; the project is | |
| 23:37 | i like that bit |
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