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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:14 | rangi | http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2[…]f-going-it-alone/ |
| 00:14 | LBA joined #koha | |
| 00:15 | druthb | Hi, LBA! |
| 00:15 | eythian | rangi: hey, you're scooping my talk, stop it :) |
| 00:16 | rangi | francois started it |
| 00:17 | :) | |
| 00:17 | eythian | http://twelvesouth.com/products/bookbook/ |
| 00:31 | melia left #koha | |
| 00:48 | mtj | heya folks... |
| 00:48 | rangi | heya mtj |
| 00:48 | mtj | wow! fascinating read there |
| 00:49 | and so perfectly fitting for the Koha project | |
| 00:50 | "Do NOT fall into the trap of adding more and more stuff to an out-of-tree project. It just makes it harder and harder to get it merged.There are many examples of this." | |
| 00:50 | a choice quote | |
| 00:53 | rangi | yup |
| 00:56 | mtj | amazing to read about dev and integrating problems on that big level |
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| 01:24 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 5630 CAS improvements" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e17bffe2bdb32747d> |
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| 01:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 397 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 14 j ago) |
| 02:06 | sekjal joined #koha | |
| 02:10 | sekjal | good <localtime>, #koha! |
| 02:13 | rangi | heya sekjal |
| 02:14 | sekjal | hey, rangi |
| 02:14 | rangi | its 2 hours from beer oclock time here |
| 02:14 | cepting its juice oclock for me today | |
| 02:14 | sekjal | still sick? |
| 02:14 | rangi | codeine and beer dont mix in a happy way :) |
| 02:14 | sekjal | no |
| 02:14 | no they don't | |
| 02:14 | having some tea while I work on this serials migration | |
| 02:15 | rangi | ahh serials |
| 02:15 | always tricky | |
| 02:15 | sekjal | I see you pulled the fix for bug 5630 |
| 02:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5630 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements |
| 02:15 | rangi | well i pulled the whole thing |
| 02:15 | your fix was fine | |
| 02:16 | but marcel discovered more was broken, including it was changing the way search history was stored | |
| 02:16 | sekjal | ah, yeah, then it had to go |
| 02:16 | I should have come up with a more aggressive test plan | |
| 02:16 | rangi | i shoulda tested harder too |
| 02:17 | sekjal | I thought that would have been sufficient |
| 02:17 | rangi | still, one revert .. not too bad |
| 02:17 | 2 months to go, but i think we are doing ok so far :) | |
| 02:17 | sekjal | and I still can't explain why Paul got LDAP results just fine, but my server erred |
| 02:17 | rangi | im picking not testing on master |
| 02:18 | sekjal | I'm having a hard time seeing how it could have been any other way.... |
| 02:18 | rangi | yup |
| 02:18 | sekjal | are there any kind of Perl settings that would automatically import subroutines, without changing the code itself? |
| 02:18 | some kind of "import everything" default? | |
| 02:18 | rangi | not that i know of |
| 02:20 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #397: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/397/ |
| 02:20 | Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 5630 CAS improvements" | |
| 02:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5630 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , CAS improvements |
| 02:33 | sekjal | rangi: did you see Tara Robertson's post to the Evergreen list about sharing serials prediction patterns? |
| 02:33 | rangi | ah yeah |
| 02:33 | im hoping to use the hackfest at access | |
| 02:34 | to brainstorm around that some more, since she will be there, and lots of evergreeners | |
| 02:34 | it would be sweet to be able to share | |
| 02:34 | sekjal | one of the things I did for this serials migration was create a bunch of config files for representing various frequencies in Koha |
| 02:34 | bimonthly, annually, 5xyear, etc | |
| 02:34 | rangi | ohhh cool |
| 02:34 | sekjal | it's Koha specific, but it might be a start in the right direction towards reusability |
| 02:35 | rangi | *nod* |
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| 02:43 | rangi | heya kmkale and trea |
| 02:43 | trea | well hey |
| 02:44 | kmkale | Namaskar rangi & trea |
| 02:44 | trea | hi kmkale |
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| 03:29 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6738] can't see funds as superlibrarian <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6738> |
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| 03:40 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6834] $template->{param_map} is deprecated with the introduction of Template::Toolkit <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6834> |
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| 04:45 | cait | morning #koha |
| 04:51 | bg | heya cait |
| 04:52 | cait | morning bg |
| 05:01 | yhager joined #koha | |
| 05:13 | cait | bg: silent here at this time :) |
| 05:20 | * sekjal | makes some noise on his way out....back in a couple hours |
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| 05:20 | francharb | morning #koha |
| 05:21 | rangi | germs? |
| 05:21 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 05:22 | rangi | Hehe |
| 05:22 | cait | bye sekjal |
| 05:22 | did you what I asked you to do? or just laugh? :) | |
| 05:23 | rangi | I did this |
| 05:23 | germs? | |
| 05:23 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 05:23 | rangi | good old eythian |
| 05:24 | oh hey cait | |
| 05:24 | cait | hey rangi |
| 05:24 | rangi | I fixed a couple of acq bugs |
| 05:24 | cait | I see it :) |
| 05:24 | how was juice o clock? | |
| 05:24 | rangi | orangey |
| 05:25 | cait | hehe |
| 05:25 | rangi | but there was raspberry buns so thats ok |
| 05:26 | cait | any sign-off recommendation to start the day with? |
| 05:26 | ah, i have a nice one, bug 6750 | |
| 05:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6750 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Guarantor search broken on translated templates |
| 05:26 | rangi | oh those 2 patches I sent |
| 05:26 | very very easy | |
| 05:27 | and that one is good too | |
| 05:27 | actually maybe leave my ones for a new person | |
| 05:28 | cait | I will try :) |
| 05:28 | rangi | :) |
| 05:28 | cait | and the germs thing is not nice |
| 05:29 | rangi | you really need to watch that movie |
| 05:31 | cait | I have |
| 05:31 | rangi | its pretty neat how they did it all and absolutely none of it is true |
| 05:31 | there was a show here, the unauthorised history of nz | |
| 05:32 | which was like that | |
| 05:32 | all made up | |
| 05:33 | cait | perhaps I should watch that to counter the germs |
| 05:33 | rangi | Hehe |
| 05:34 | ill post you one when I get home | |
| 05:35 | cait | bug 6750 - signed off! |
| 05:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6750 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Guarantor search broken on translated templates |
| 05:38 | rangi | ok my stop bbl |
| 06:06 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:14 | cait | hi alex_a :) |
| 06:14 | alex_a | hello cait |
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| 06:42 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:42 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
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| 06:44 | magnus_afk | kia ora, #koha! |
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| 07:00 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 07:00 | reiveune | hi |
| 07:00 | wahanui | what's up, reiveune |
| 07:02 | marcelr joined #koha | |
| 07:02 | marcelr | morning koha |
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| 07:05 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune and marcelr |
| 07:06 | reiveune | hi magnuse |
| 07:06 | hdl | hi magnuse |
| 07:06 | hi marcelr | |
| 07:06 | magnuse | kia ora hdl |
| 07:06 | hdl | hi Barrc |
| 07:06 | marcelr | hi magnuse and hdl |
| 07:06 | hdl | hi #koha |
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| 07:06 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 07:07 | paul_p | hello world |
| 07:07 | marcelr | hi paul_p |
| 07:07 | Barrc | Morning -) |
| 07:07 | marcelr | hi barrc |
| 07:10 | magnuse: putting a comment on bugzilla helpful for bug squashing ? | |
| 07:14 | magnuse | marcelr: oh yes, everything that helps move bugs forward is very welcome! |
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| 07:16 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:16 | magnuse | guten morgen kf |
| 07:16 | marcelr | hi kf |
| 07:16 | kf | hi marcelr and magnuse |
| 07:16 | marcelr | magnuse: i mean for communicating that you are working on a bug |
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| 07:20 | magnuse | marcelr: ah yes, either assign it to yourself or just add a comment, i think |
| 07:20 | marcelr | ok |
| 07:21 | * kf | provides a big bowl of virtual cookies for the gbsd |
| 07:22 | magnuse | yummy! |
| 07:26 | sophie_m | thanks kf :-) |
| 07:27 | kf | bonjour sophie_m |
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| 07:34 | magnuse | fredericd: you just volunteered for Documentation Manager ;-) |
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| 07:52 | paul_p | hello marcelr & kf & others |
| 07:53 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 07:53 | * paul_p | put some home made bred on the table, near virtual cookies |
| 07:53 | paul_p | (the real home made bread is in my home ;-) ) |
| 07:54 | reiveune, connected through the VPN ? | |
| 07:54 | (if yes, it's fine...) | |
| 07:55 | reiveune | paul_p: yes, I am connected through the VPN |
| 07:58 | paul_p: home made bread ?? mmmm ...(function(){var src = document.getElementById('source');src.focus();src.select();src.style.boxSizing=src.style.WebkitBoxSizing=src.style.MozBoxSizing=src.style.MsBoxSizing='border-box';})();Langue source : français Saisissez du texte, l'adresse d'un site Web ou importez un document à traduire.Annuler Traduction (français > anglais)If you do not know what to do with it, tell it to me | |
| 07:58 | paul_p | (epic copy/paste failure :D ) |
| 07:59 | reiveune | shame on me :-( |
| 08:06 | kf | magnuse++ for sign off :) |
| 08:09 | magnuse | yay |
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| 08:17 | rangi | paul_p: i track patches that way already |
| 08:18 | eythian | rangi, kf: Forgotten Silver is what you're thinking of. |
| 08:18 | (by Peter Jackson) | |
| 08:18 | paul_p | rangi, I know, but I would find it more convenient on RSS feed (you've the full title, files modified...) |
| 08:20 | kf | eythian: ? |
| 08:21 | eythian | kf: the NZ history documentary |
| 08:21 | kf | ah |
| 08:21 | eythian | germs? |
| 08:21 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 08:21 | kf | *sighs* |
| 08:21 | eythian | :D |
| 08:22 | wahanui: kf | |
| 08:22 | wahanui | kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss |
| 08:23 | kf | you wanted to fix that :P |
| 08:23 | eythian | I've been meaning too |
| 08:23 | kf | wahanui: eythian |
| 08:23 | wahanui | it has been said that eythian is in NZ. ;) or a good influence |
| 08:23 | * eythian | off home. |
| 08:24 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 08:33 | kf | hi km |
| 08:33 | hi kmkale :) | |
| 08:34 | kmkale | :) |
| 08:34 | magnuse | so i used git-bz to apply the two patches for bug 6595, and now i want to sign off on both of them - is there a clever way to do it? |
| 08:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6595 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add German translation for purchase suggestion mails |
| 08:34 | magnuse | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration only talks about "the last commit" |
| 08:34 | and i have two... | |
| 08:36 | rangi or slef got some insight on that, perhaps? | |
| 08:37 | alex_a | does anyone use overdue_notices.pl for sending email here ? |
| 08:40 | rangi | magnuse: git rebase 1stcommitid^ --interactive |
| 08:41 | then you can switch pick to edit | |
| 08:41 | then run | |
| 08:41 | git commit --amend -s | |
| 08:41 | git rebase --continue | |
| 08:41 | then youre back at HEAD | |
| 08:41 | so git commit --amend -s again | |
| 08:42 | and you are signing off the latest one too | |
| 08:42 | make sense? | |
| 08:42 | magnuse | hm, i'll need to digest that a bit... ;-) |
| 08:43 | would that basically be squashing the commits into one? no? | |
| 08:46 | rangi | nope |
| 08:47 | kf | alex_a: we do |
| 08:48 | magnuse | it makes sense now! ;-) |
| 08:49 | alex_a | kf: does sending email work for you ? |
| 08:50 | because it seems 'to_adress' parameter is never set in C4::Letters::EnqueueLetter | |
| 08:50 | kf | ah |
| 08:51 | it gets the address from the borrower | |
| 08:51 | if you refer to it being empty in the database table - that's been like that from the beginning | |
| 08:51 | I know it sends in 3.2.2 - my test installation can't send mails sadly | |
| 08:52 | magnuse | rangi: if i had 3 pathes, would i have to do: "git rebase 1stcommitid^^ --interactive"? (with the ^^) |
| 08:53 | alex_a | kf: the script gets correctly the email address (when it exists) but email is never passed in EnqueueLetter |
| 08:53 | rangi | i think just the ^ is all |
| 08:54 | alex_a | so either i'm wrong or sending email can't works |
| 08:54 | kf | alex_a: I am not sure. I can only promise it works in 3.2.2 |
| 08:54 | because that's what we are using in production | |
| 08:55 | and I see the mails going out, get them cc and had libraries calling about typos and all that :) | |
| 08:55 | * alex_a | will checkout 3.2.2 |
| 08:57 | magnuse | rangi: ah, yes, i guess i'm already giving it the first commitid i want it to look at... |
| 08:58 | lastnode | hi |
| 08:58 | so i got the go ahead from school today | |
| 08:58 | to deploy a pilot version of koha! | |
| 08:58 | w00t | |
| 08:58 | o/ | |
| 08:58 | kf | yay! |
| 08:59 | grats lastnode :) | |
| 08:59 | lastnode++ :) | |
| 08:59 | magnuse | lastnode++ |
| 08:59 | lastnode | now i need to write up my concerns and pastebin it |
| 08:59 | so i can runit by you guys | |
| 08:59 | i didnt tell them how much the hosting woul cost | |
| 08:59 | gonna host it myself first few months, make sure they like it | |
| 08:59 | then say oh btw | |
| 08:59 | hosting :) | |
| 09:00 | magnuse | rangi: any tricks for "git bz attach -e xxxx HEAD"? does that also just work with the last patch? |
| 09:00 | rangi | HEAD^ |
| 09:00 | etc | |
| 09:00 | lastnode | i read here yesterday that a future koha (deb packages) will have auto sql + config dump |
| 09:00 | is there a guide to how i can do it now | |
| 09:00 | backup + restore? | |
| 09:00 | rangi | yep |
| 09:00 | magnuse | just replace HEAD with HEAD^? that tells it to go back one commit from HEAD? |
| 09:01 | * magnuse | will write this up on the wiki for later |
| 09:01 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ages#koha-restore |
| 09:01 | lastnode | also are tehre any recommended koha hosts? |
| 09:02 | rangi | magnuse: it does indeed |
| 09:02 | magnuse | so if i had three patches i would use HEAD^^ ? |
| 09:02 | * magnuse | needs to be spoon-fed sometines |
| 09:03 | rangi | HEAD~2 |
| 09:03 | HEAD~220383 if you wanted :) | |
| 09:04 | its all the same as you can use with git-reset | |
| 09:04 | lastnode | rangi: koha-restore will work on even a completely new koha install right? |
| 09:05 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5981] OPAC: Add limits to search history <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981> |
| 09:08 | rangi | if you are restoring from koha-dump created files |
| 09:12 | hdl | rangi: for bug 6834, there is a followup needed§. |
| 09:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6834 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , $template->{param_map} is deprecated with the introduction of Template::Toolkit |
| 09:12 | rangi | yes i saw |
| 09:12 | hdl | What should I do ? |
| 09:12 | ask for sign off or mark it as signed off. | |
| 09:13 | * hdl | don't know the consequences of those patches. |
| 09:13 | rangi | ask for sign off |
| 09:13 | lastnode | thanks rangi |
| 09:13 | and future versions will be able to restore thsi too? | |
| 09:13 | like say Koha 5 | |
| 09:13 | *48 | |
| 09:13 | *4 | |
| 09:13 | argh | |
| 09:14 | rangi | well $template->{param_map} is always empty so now it will be actually testing those conditions |
| 09:14 | so its worth testing | |
| 09:14 | lastnode: thats the plan | |
| 09:14 | lastnode | ok |
| 09:14 | cool,t ahnks | |
| 09:15 | hdl | rangi: so leaving needs sign off. |
| 09:16 | rangi | cool |
| 09:28 | lastnode | this may be a dumb question, but generally how big can a koha db with a few thousand books get? |
| 09:29 | im trying to calcualte how much data transfer ill need | |
| 09:29 | for semi-regualr off site backups | |
| 09:33 | rangi | a few thousand? |
| 09:33 | not big at all | |
| 09:33 | 2 secs | |
| 09:33 | ill tell | |
| 09:34 | 55M pnf-2011-09-02.sql.gz thats the db | |
| 09:35 | for about 30k records | |
| 09:35 | gzipped | |
| 09:36 | lastnode | neat |
| 09:36 | and if i rsync, rangi | |
| 09:36 | it would even transfer the whole db right? | |
| 09:36 | just the diff? | |
| 09:36 | oh but it cant diff gzipped files? | |
| 09:37 | rangi | disk is cheap :) |
| 09:37 | keep lots of back ups | |
| 09:37 | you'll never wake up one day and go 'omg i have too many backups' | |
| 09:37 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5724] Sometimes deletes aren't processed correctly by rebuild zebra <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5724> |
| 09:38 | rangi | speaking of backups |
| 09:38 | you should checkout obnam | |
| 09:38 | http://braawi.org/obnam/ | |
| 09:39 | * magnuse | is trying out obnam, but has not actually tried to restore anything yet... ;-) |
| 09:40 | liw | restore... restore? ... restore! RESTORE?! why, that's a bloody good idea, being able to restore your backups, I'll make a note of that so that I remember to implement it some day |
| 09:40 | rangi | there is a #obnam on oftc :) |
| 09:41 | hehe | |
| 09:41 | magnuse | lol |
| 09:41 | hm, when i do "git bz attach -e 6595 HEAD^" i get this: http://paste.koha-community.org/27, edit it to this: http://paste.koha-community.org/28, save and get this error: http://paste.koha-community.org/29 (have tried it several times now, too) | |
| 09:42 | rangi | ah yeah |
| 09:42 | it times out if you take too long doing the edit | |
| 09:42 | liw | lastnode, for transferring the sql dump, you're probably better off without gzipping the dump first; however, you may have some luck with the --rsyncable option to gzip (but it may be Debian specific) |
| 09:42 | rangi | and by long, its not long at all |
| 09:43 | if i knew more python id fix it :) | |
| 09:43 | magnuse | wow, i did not expect that! let me try to be quick |
| 09:43 | lastnode | im just terrified |
| 09:43 | bc IANA systems engineer | |
| 09:43 | im an english teacher :/ | |
| 09:44 | rangi | id dump the db each night, keep a weeks worth of nightly backups |
| 09:44 | liw | lastnode, do you know how fast the network link is over which you transfer the backup? |
| 09:44 | rangi | and then a few monthly ones too |
| 09:44 | lastnode | well if i download it to home or school that's 512k/2mbps dsl rspecitvely |
| 09:44 | so im thinking | |
| 09:44 | maybe to my dreamhost account | |
| 09:44 | (ill be running koha on a linode vps) | |
| 09:44 | on that note, 512mb should be more than enoughr ight | |
| 09:44 | ram wise? | |
| 09:45 | rangi | it'll be pretty tight |
| 09:45 | with mysql and apache | |
| 09:46 | liw | 512 kbit/s is about 15 minutes for the full dump transfer, so that should be pretty fast, I guess |
| 09:46 | hdl | rangi: about renewals in items table. |
| 09:46 | Is it ok not to reset that when the item is checked in ? | |
| 09:47 | rangi | yep, since we move it to old_issues now, thats fine |
| 09:47 | hdl | i.e. what do libraries want ? to know how many times an item has been renewed ? |
| 09:47 | rangi | can leave it as it was |
| 09:47 | hdl | globally ? |
| 09:47 | rangi | you can get that from the statistics table |
| 09:47 | hdl | or to show in detail page : this item checked out has been renewed n times. |
| 09:47 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6835] Ability to specify types of email address in overdue_notices.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6835> |
| 09:48 | magnuse | wow, being real quick solved it - but that feels like doing gamification the wrong way! ;-) |
| 09:48 | rangi | magnuse: the real fix is to learn python and fix git-bz :-) |
| 09:48 | lastnode | liw: kilobits, so more like 64K |
| 09:48 | magnuse | rangi: hehe |
| 09:49 | rangi | hdl: yep it was a quick way to show that to the librarians |
| 09:49 | hdl | my use case is that librarians have rather to show in detail page : this item checked out has been renewed n times. |
| 09:49 | rangi | yep thats fine, because you can get the history from a report using hte statistics table |
| 09:50 | hdl | So if this is your use case to. Then we need to reset the items.renewal on checkin |
| 09:50 | rangi | well im not sure anyone is using it currently |
| 09:50 | hdl | So patch from Fridolyn needs followup. |
| 09:50 | magnuse | how about sending patches to the patches mail list? do we not worry about that when using git-bz? |
| 09:50 | hdl | rangi: i am pretty sure one library of ours would LOVE this feature. ( |
| 09:51 | actually they already have thatà) | |
| 09:51 | rangi | i do that too |
| 09:51 | magnuse: git send-email kc/master | |
| 09:51 | hdl | rangi: is there a bug for that ? |
| 09:51 | rangi | makes the patches and emails them in one go |
| 09:51 | hdl: a bug for what? | |
| 09:51 | magnuse | rangi: oh, cool! |
| 09:52 | rangi | magnuse: kc is the name of my remote and master the branch |
| 09:52 | you need a recentish git | |
| 09:52 | hdl | for the items.renewals not being reset. |
| 09:52 | rangi | no idea |
| 09:53 | * magnuse | always keeps his git uptodate |
| 09:53 | rangi | hdl: not that i know of |
| 09:53 | hdl | Do you use the items.renewal to show how many times it has been renewed for that checkout. |
| 09:53 | ? | |
| 09:53 | rangi | no |
| 09:53 | hdl | oh i thought i do that too... was for me. |
| 09:54 | rangi | nope that was for magnuse sorry |
| 09:55 | lastnode | for a small (100 user) library, is it feasible to run the database server |
| 09:55 | on treh same vps as teh koha server | |
| 09:55 | *web server | |
| 09:55 | rangi | perfect magnuse :) |
| 09:56 | lastnode: not with 512MB of ram its not | |
| 09:56 | lastnode | for now it's going to be just a few staff entering books though |
| 09:56 | up to what user load is it feasible | |
| 09:56 | rangi | cpu load wont be a problem |
| 09:56 | lastnode | no i mean koha users |
| 09:56 | it will be a few staff accessing it | |
| 09:57 | to add data | |
| 09:57 | magnuse | rangi: yay! |
| 09:57 | rangi | 512MB for apache and mysql is never going to be feasible |
| 09:57 | lastnode | :/ |
| 09:57 | what would recommended be | |
| 09:58 | rangi | you could probably squeak in with 768 |
| 09:58 | i run bugs.koha-community.org on linode with that | |
| 09:58 | and its pretty easy to get into swap territory if you arent careful | |
| 09:58 | you'll want to wind the max connections and max threads on apache right down | |
| 09:59 | soon as you start swapping it spirals into madness very fast | |
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| 10:03 | lastnode | ok |
| 10:03 | i guess ill give it a shot with 512 and see though, rangi | |
| 10:03 | not production ofc. testing | |
| 10:04 | rangi | make sure you wind down the max threads in apache, you dont want 12 perl processes all running at the same time :) |
| 10:04 | lastnode | ok |
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| 10:25 | * magnuse | hopes this adds a little bit more clarification than confusion: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]re_than_one_patch feel free to correct any errors on my part, rangi ;-) |
| 10:26 | rangi | im too busy watching the world atheltic champs ;) |
| 10:26 | kf | hdl: I think items.renewal should be the alltime total, issues the one for the current checkout |
| 10:26 | rangi | my brain is dead, cant concentrate, so watching tv .. but ill take a quick look |
| 10:27 | hdl | kf : why ? |
| 10:27 | it looks nonesense to me. | |
| 10:27 | kf | hdl: perhaps because horizon does it like that hehe |
| 10:27 | rangi | issues table has a renewals, thats per issue |
| 10:27 | hdl | libraran want to see how many times it has been renewed NOW. |
| 10:27 | rangi | yep issues.renewals will tell you that |
| 10:27 | kf | hdl: I think faster for stats, and if you don't want to keep statistics that long but dump them |
| 10:28 | hdl: another thing to find out how the item is / was used | |
| 10:28 | and what rangi said | |
| 10:28 | use the issues.renewals for that | |
| 10:28 | have to go - will be back | |
| 10:28 | hdl | but issues table is not used on displaying item. |
| 10:28 | rangi | i was confused before, i thought you were talking about issues table |
| 10:29 | it is on the moredetail.pl page | |
| 10:29 | hdl | k giving up |
| 10:29 | kf_mtg | I think both values shoudl show in the reading histories |
| 10:29 | item histories | |
| 10:35 | rangi | hdl: GetItemsInfo (which detail.pl uses) hands back issues data |
| 10:37 | line 1205 of C4/Items.pm | |
| 10:37 | if you added | |
| 10:37 | $data->{'current_renewals'}=$idata->{'renewals'}; | |
| 10:38 | then you could add [% items.current_renewals %] (or something like that) to the tt | |
| 10:38 | then if you wanted, you could show both, like kf would like | |
| 10:40 | magnuse | yay, needs signoff is down from 93 to 78! still some work to do, though... |
| 10:44 | paul_p | ok, time to go to lunch... |
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| 11:01 | rangi | ok one more race then sleep for me |
| 11:02 | usain bolt running the 200m, always worth watching | |
| 11:05 | night all, happy bug hunting | |
| 11:05 | kf_mtg | night rangi |
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| 11:15 | paul_p | heading to ride my bike... |
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| 11:33 | kf | hi Jesse |
| 11:33 | Jesse | Hello kf! |
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| 12:14 | kf | rangi++ for new git tricks |
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| 12:17 | kf | hi oleonard :) |
| 12:17 | oleonard | Hi |
| 12:18 | kf | oleonard: could you take a look at 6458 suggestions? I am not sure the prefix is needed... or at least I don't see the difference when testing |
| 12:21 | oleonard | Sure |
| 12:22 | kf | thank you |
| 12:22 | I have also posted a summary on the bug, to see what still needs work | |
| 12:23 | * oleonard | has a patch in progress for 6458/manage-marc-import.tt |
| 12:23 | kf | cool :) |
| 12:24 | I am trying to sign off on yours right now | |
| 12:24 | nothing new in the works | |
| 12:26 | wb magnuse | |
| 12:26 | magnuse | ta! |
| 12:31 | * marcelr | must leave now, hoping that someone could have a look on 6536 (z3950 enhancements) |
| 12:33 | kf | marcelr++ |
| 12:37 | hdl | kf : if you want to do what rangi suggested feel free. |
| 12:38 | kf | hdl: sorry? |
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| 12:42 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4966] no way to finish receiving <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4966> |
| 12:48 | jwagner | kf, your computer is living in the past again :-) Emails datestamped Tue 8/10/2010 8:58 PM |
| 12:48 | kf | oh |
| 12:49 | thx | |
| 12:49 | not used to working with the vm anymore | |
| 12:49 | jwagner | Just think, your computer has a whole year of disasters to live through again! |
| 12:50 | kf | I beamed it into the present :) |
| 12:50 | jwagner | Hmmm. Wish i could learn that trick... |
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| 12:57 | wizzyrea | mornin peeps |
| 12:57 | magnuse | hiya! |
| 12:57 | trea | hi manguse |
| 12:57 | morning #koha | |
| 12:59 | magnuse | kia ora trea |
| 13:01 | lastnode | could someone direct me to the koha page on barcodes |
| 13:01 | and generating barcodes for call numbers? | |
| 13:03 | magnuse | lastnode: have yuo looked in the manual? |
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| 13:05 | lastnode | magnuse: looking now |
| 13:05 | magnuse | kia ora sekjal |
| 13:06 | sekjal | God morgen, magnuse |
| 13:06 | magnuse | :-) |
| 13:06 | kf | hi wizzyrea and trea |
| 13:06 | oh and sekjal :) | |
| 13:07 | sekjal | hi, kf |
| 13:16 | trea | morning kf |
| 13:20 | Agent_Dani | \o |
| 13:21 | kf | hi Agent_Dani |
| 13:23 | lastnode | magnuse: ive spent some time looking, but would really like a poitner int eh right direction |
| 13:23 | re: generating bar codes for our own call numbers | |
| 13:24 | *really appreciate | |
| 13:25 | wizzyrea | you mean just generating barcodes in general? |
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| 13:27 | magnuse | ouch, that was all i had time for today, wish i could have done more. happy bug squashing folks! |
| 13:27 | sekjal | magnuse++ |
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| 13:32 | kf | lastnode: do you want to generate labels or the numbers when cataloging items? |
| 13:32 | vfernandes | hi ppl... |
| 13:32 | kf | hi vfernandes |
| 13:33 | vfernandes | there is a log for the preferences changes? |
| 13:33 | kf | do you mean newly added preferences after an update? |
| 13:34 | vfernandes | i mean if someone change a system preference |
| 13:34 | that is saved? | |
| 13:34 | kf | yes |
| 13:34 | action_log I think | |
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| 13:35 | glernil | hello |
| 13:35 | wahanui | what's up, glernil |
| 13:35 | glernil | i have a problem in the debian package |
| 13:35 | lastnode | kf: generate numbers and then print labels i think |
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| 13:36 | kf | system preference autobarcode |
| 13:36 | for generating a number automatically | |
| 13:36 | there are different schemes | |
| 13:36 | lastnode | tthanks |
| 13:36 | is thre arundown of each scehem somewhere? | |
| 13:36 | kf | and for the label creators check the labels prefrences and the options under tools |
| 13:36 | there is a description in the pref text :) | |
| 13:37 | lastnode | oh yes |
| 13:37 | thank you very much | |
| 13:37 | glernil | how can i alter the cron settings of every koha instance in my debian installation? |
| 13:37 | kf | glernil: are you using the koha-common packages? |
| 13:37 | glernil | yup... |
| 13:38 | kf | hm not sure about that |
| 13:38 | have you checked the wiki pages for the koha-common packages? | |
| 13:38 | vfernandes | kf i don't have any log on the system preferences |
| 13:38 | how i can actiavte it? | |
| 13:38 | in the tab "logs" there isn't a option for that | |
| 13:39 | kf | h it should always log I think |
| 13:39 | glernil | there are two instances of koha... i tried to upgrade from 3.2.9 to 3.4.4 and changed the cron settings just like changing the settings of a non-debian installation |
| 13:39 | kf | it's in my action_logs table |
| 13:39 | vfernandes: have you checked yoru database table or only the log viewer? | |
| 13:40 | vfernandes | i've checked my database |
| 13:40 | and also log viewer | |
| 13:40 | kf | it works for me |
| 13:40 | vfernandes | the system preferences aren't being saved |
| 13:40 | kf | select * from action_logs where module = "SYSTEMPREFERENCE" |
| 13:42 | vfernandes | omg... i was checking my testing database instead of final database |
| 13:42 | kf | ah good |
| 13:42 | better than a hidden bug :) | |
| 13:43 | vfernandes | yes :) |
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| 13:44 | lastnode | when autobarcodeis enabled |
| 13:44 | where exactly is it generated | |
| 13:44 | im sorry, i cant seem to fidn this info inteh docs | |
| 13:46 | oh right it generated it | |
| 13:46 | thanks! | |
| 13:46 | vfernandes | kf++ |
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| 13:47 | vfernandes | another thing sometimes the cataloguinglog preferences in the catalogue tab is changed to not log |
| 13:47 | anyone knows why? | |
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| 13:54 | oleonard | kf still around? |
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| 13:55 | kf | here |
| 13:55 | oleonard | regarding suggestions.tt and that variable scope issue... |
| 13:55 | I think your patch is correct in removing the scope | |
| 13:55 | Line 305 of suggestion.pl: $template->param( "statusselected_$$suggestion_ref{'STATUS'}" =>1); | |
| 13:55 | kf | I was not sure -thx for checking |
| 13:56 | oleonard | That's a variable all by itself, no no scope necessary as far as I can tell |
| 13:56 | kf | it seems to behave the same before and after |
| 13:57 | although there is still a problem with tabs vanishing when you change a status of one suggestion | |
| 13:57 | oleonard | I can't see under what circumstances that variable would ever evaluate as true in the context of that status selector. |
| 13:58 | Why would a status be preselected in that "mark selected as..." form? | |
| 13:58 | kf | I am not sure |
| 13:58 | really | |
| 14:00 | so the sign-off stands? | |
| 14:00 | could you comment perhaps? | |
| 14:00 | oleonard | Commenting now. |
| 14:01 | kf | thx! |
| 14:01 | I am about to sign-off on opac-reserve | |
| 14:01 | I did a follow-up for memberentry | |
| 14:01 | oleonard | I saw that, thank you. |
| 14:01 | I'm not surprised I missed something, that thing was a beast. | |
| 14:02 | kf | yep |
| 14:02 | I think it needs more work still - and simplifying | |
| 14:02 | it's still problematic for translations | |
| 14:03 | vfernandes | guyes there is some process/script that turn off cataloguing log |
| 14:03 | ? | |
| 14:03 | oleonard | A system preference vfernandes |
| 14:03 | CataloguingLog | |
| 14:03 | vfernandes | yes I know... but it's the 3rd time that I turn on the preference |
| 14:03 | something turns off the preferenece | |
| 14:04 | maybe sync_items_in_marc_bib.pl? | |
| 14:04 | kf | hm |
| 14:04 | weird | |
| 14:05 | what do the logs show? not entries for turning it off I guess? | |
| 14:05 | vfernandes | no entries for turning off |
| 14:05 | only turning on | |
| 14:06 | kf | is your turning on correctly save dto the systempreferences table? |
| 14:06 | vfernandes | yes i've checked it now... |
| 14:07 | CataloguingLog = 1 | |
| 14:07 | kf | sorry, not sure how that can happyn |
| 14:07 | happen | |
| 14:08 | oleonard: leaving now - will be back later and trying to sign-off on some more | |
| 14:08 | oleonard | Thanks kf |
| 14:08 | kf | thanks to you :) |
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| 14:10 | glernil1 | how can i set the cron settings of every koha instance in a debian koha installation using the koha-common package |
| 14:12 | oleonard | glernil1: If there's no one online now who can answer your question, you might have better luck emailing the mailing list |
| 14:13 | vfernandes | oleanard i have no idea of what can be? |
| 14:15 | trea | mailing lists? |
| 14:15 | wahanui | mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
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| 14:20 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 14:20 | vfernandes | hi jcamins |
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| 14:35 | jcamins | postfix? |
| 14:35 | wahanui | somebody said postfix was found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
| 14:37 | jcamins | Hey, do we have an IRC meeting on Wednesday? |
| 14:39 | oleonard | That's what Mr. Topic says jcamins |
| 14:39 | jcamins | oleonard: ah, right. |
| 14:41 | oleonard: (or someone else) any chance you could do a quick check and see if the out-of-the-box Z39.50 configuration for Columbia is working for you? | |
| 14:41 | It doesn't matter what you search for - "en damus chronicon" as title should do it. | |
| 14:42 | oleonard | I can't imagine why I would search for anything else. |
| 14:44 | That title doesn't return any results, but other searches work. | |
| 14:44 | I searched "dictionary," and that returned results. Then I searched for a specific title in those results and got a correct hit | |
| 14:45 | jcamins | Okay, so you are able to connect. |
| 14:45 | * jcamins | thinks he accidentally turned on a firewall. |
| 14:48 | oleonard | I see that bulkmarcimport.pl turns off the CataloguingLog and back on again. I wonder if an error in that script could cause it not to turn back on? |
| 14:49 | paul_p | oleonard, yep, there is = the script is run without CGI, so without auth, so the librarian is 0, and Logger dislike librarian=0... |
| 14:49 | + when you bulkmarcimport 100k biblios, you loose a lot of time filling logs, and it's probably useless... | |
| 14:49 | (to log) | |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | since you already know who did it, and it wasn't through the web interface. Maybe 1 entry for "OMG SOMEONE LOADED A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF" |
| 14:50 | sorry, yelling. | |
| 14:50 | paul_p | lol wizzyrea |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | at least I made you laught |
| 14:51 | paul_p | (good morning usa/canada/south america) |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 14:51 | trea | morning paul_p |
| 14:51 | paul_p | thx trea my morning was good, but it was a long time ago ;-) (5PM in France) |
| 14:52 | trea | ah fair enough |
| 14:53 | whatever time of day we find you in, i hope it's going well. | |
| 14:56 | oleonard | paul_p: Lose a lot of time filling logs? I thought the script was turning logging off? |
| 14:56 | paul_p | wizzyrea, your idea is not applicable, each entry must also have the biblionumber |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | an entry for beginning bibnumber, and ending one? |
| 14:57 | "I started here" "I ended here" | |
| 14:58 | truthfully there's not a problem here | |
| 14:59 | if no one cares that bulkimiports aren't logged, then I don't either | |
| 14:59 | :P | |
| 14:59 | yay I made up a word! imiports! | |
| 14:59 | sigh | |
| 15:00 | jcamins | paul_p: if I wanted to have a rule that says consider 'v' and 'u' interchangeable in the title, could I do that in solr? |
| 15:01 | paul_p | jcamins, i'm definetly not the guy to ask for solR stuff ! |
| 15:01 | clrh, will be much more "usefull" here ! | |
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| 15:01 | jcamins | paul_p: oh, I thought you were involved with that, sorry. |
| 15:02 | clrh: if I wanted a rule that said "treat the letters 'u' and 'v' interchangeably in the title," would solr be able to handle it. | |
| 15:02 | s/\.$/?/ | |
| 15:04 | * jcamins | goes to make 'u' and 'v' interchangeable in Zebra. |
| 15:04 | lastnode | im having a problem where a lot of the z39.50 searches i do give me editions of books that dont match with the ones i have |
| 15:04 | (non american publications) | |
| 15:04 | what are some international z39.50 targets i can try? | |
| 15:04 | jcamins | lastnode: that's going to happen a lot. |
| 15:04 | http://irspy.indexdata.com/ | |
| 15:05 | lastnode | are tehre any rememdies, jcamins? |
| 15:05 | jcamins | lastnode: no, you just have to look through until you find the right one. |
| 15:06 | lastnode | jcamins: no i mean they dont eve nshow up in the list |
| 15:06 | jcamins | Ugh. This SSH client doesn't support Unicode. |
| 15:06 | lastnode: you can try other targets- that link was a list of z39.50 targets. | |
| 15:06 | lastnode | yeah im looking through |
| 15:06 | oleonard | Could the title not show up on the list because the list doesn't show all results? |
| 15:07 | jcamins | oleonard: it's possible. |
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| 15:08 | clrh | jcamins you have "fuzzy search" with solr but not sure it does it exactly like that |
| 15:08 | jcamins | clrh: probably not. That's not really the usual definition of "fuzzy search." |
| 15:08 | ;) | |
| 15:08 | clrh | example imagine you do a query search like q=ste_title:world will find all biblio containing wolrd |
| 15:08 | world | |
| 15:09 | but youshould do too q=ste_title:wordl~ to do a fuzzy search | |
| 15:09 | I think solr look at the similar world in his index if you use "~" char | |
| 15:09 | am I clear? or not? | |
| 15:09 | do I answer the question? | |
| 15:10 | reiveune | by |
| 15:10 | bye | |
| 15:10 | clrh | http://lucene.apache.org/java/[…]syntax.html#Fuzzy Searches |
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| 15:11 | jcamins | clrh: well, the challenge is that I would like to be able to specify that there has to be an exact match, except 'u's and 'v's can be interchangeable, as can be 'i's and 'j's. |
| 15:12 | clrh | jcamins: ok I don't know how to do that - I never think to do it |
| 15:12 | jcamins | clrh: understandable. It's a bit of an odd task. |
| 15:12 | lastnode | the british national library has a record syntax called SUTRS |
| 15:12 | jcamins | lastnode: Koha can't use SUTRS. |
| 15:12 | lastnode | oh |
| 15:12 | oleonard | http://www.google.com/trends/correlate/draw |
| 15:13 | clrh | I am sorry but I have to leave, could we continue on monday? |
| 15:13 | jcamins | lastnode: however, if you're in the UK, you can license MARC syntax. |
| 15:13 | clrh: you answered my question. :) | |
| 15:13 | clrh | ok thanks jcamins :) |
| 15:13 | have a good week end | |
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| 15:13 | lastnode | license jcamins? |
| 15:14 | jcamins | lastnode: yeah, I don't have any details beyond that. |
| 15:14 | lastnode | as in pay for and license? |
| 15:14 | jcamins | lastnode: slef may be able to find more details for you. |
| 15:14 | lastnode | ok will look into it |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | oleonard that is weird |
| 15:16 | oleonard | Useless and yet fascinating. |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | I drew a line, and it correlated to tim mcgraw lyrics, of all things |
| 15:17 | oleonard | I just did one that correlated to "public library association conference" |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | lol! |
| 15:18 | oleonard | ...which matches "san diego panda cam" |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 15:19 | lastnode | when i import a book, how is the koha full call number generated? |
| 15:20 | jcamins | lastnode: it's automatically pulled from the record, if the record has a call number in the field you specify, or you have to give it one yourself. |
| 15:20 | The syspref is... | |
| 15:20 | itemcallnumber | |
| 15:21 | lastnode | thanks |
| 15:21 | so if using dewey, across teh board the call number will generally be the same, at whatever library? | |
| 15:21 | (it ties the isbn = call number?) | |
| 15:22 | jcamins | lastnode: no. |
| 15:22 | lastnode | ok |
| 15:22 | i will read up on this, thank you for clarifying | |
| 15:22 | jcamins | lastnode: the call number will generally be close, but it may be longer or shorter, depending on the library. |
| 15:25 | The call number is stored in the record, most likely in 082. | |
| 15:25 | In principle, the call numbers stored in 082 are supposed to be consistent, but a lot of the consistency comes from the Library of Congress. | |
| 15:25 | (wouldn't it be nice if there were a simple answer to this sort of question?;) | |
| 15:25 | lastnode | so the indeed |
| 15:25 | so teh part after the / and . | |
| 15:25 | are generated by koha, correct? | |
| 15:25 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 15:26 | The slashes are put in to give catalogers clues about good places to break the call number, if they don't want such a long call number. | |
| 15:26 | The . is an integral part of the call number. | |
| 15:28 | lastnode | and when you grab it from a search it pulls in the call number |
| 15:28 | from teh marc record | |
| 15:28 | got it | |
| 15:28 | ! | |
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| 15:35 | rhcl_away | wizzyrea: you saw the news on the Alaskan earthquake surely. I want to be on record as saying New Madrid is going to hit us sometime |
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| 15:35 | wizzyrea | oh I haven't been with the news today |
| 15:35 | alaskan earthquake. huh. | |
| 15:37 | oleonard | I wonder if melting permafrost affects earthquakes. |
| 15:40 | rhcl_away | 6.8 near Atka, AK |
| 15:40 | oleonard | The news article I just read reported the locals as saying, "Yeah, whatever." |
| 15:42 | francharb | hey guys, ladies! any sql expert around here? i'm looking to count how many records i got with a 009@ field! do you think this will work ? select count(*) from biblioitems where ExtractValue(marcxml,'//datafield[@tag="009"]/subfield[@code="@"]') is not NULL; |
| 15:42 | rhcl | yea, but it was so remote apparently, there weren't that many people very close to it |
| 15:42 | francharb | it's the subfield[@code="@" that doesnt look good to me... |
| 15:42 | any idea? | |
| 15:43 | jcamins | francharb: 009@? |
| 15:43 | 009 shouldn't have subfields. | |
| 15:44 | francharb | i dont know how it works with marc21, but with unimarc, anyfield with 9 in it (009 / 09X / 9XX...) is a local field... |
| 15:44 | jcamins | francharb: that's (mostly) true in MARC21, but you still shouldn't have any subfields in an 00x field. |
| 15:45 | francharb | ok |
| 15:46 | but the information is within the field, not the subfield 009__ |
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| 15:46 | jcamins | francharb: yes, that's how it's supposed to be. |
| 15:46 | francharb: oh! | |
| 15:46 | I just realized what you're asking. | |
| 15:46 | francharb | hehe |
| 15:46 | jcamins | The @ is a peculiarity of Koha. |
| 15:47 | francharb | yep |
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| 15:47 | francharb | and my request is working but not the way i want to... it counts every records i got |
| 15:47 | jcamins | ExtractValue("//controlfield[@tag='009']") IS NOT NULL; |
| 15:47 | Wait, no. | |
| 15:47 | francharb | so maybe is the condition which is not working |
| 15:47 | jcamins | ExtractValue("//controlfield[@tag='009']/text()") IS NOT NULL; |
| 15:48 | francharb | humm!! :) |
| 15:48 | i'm trying that right now! | |
| 15:48 | thanks | |
| 15:49 | * francharb | is crossing fingers |
| 15:49 | jcamins | You're welcome. I hope it works. |
| 15:49 | It won't. | |
| 15:49 | francharb | haha |
| 15:49 | jcamins | I don't think ExtractValue ever returns NULL. |
| 15:49 | Try checking that the length is greater than zero. | |
| 15:50 | francharb | good idea! |
| 15:50 | * oleonard | quits early |
| 16:08 | slef | can someone please tell the world that Global Bug Squash Day does not mean I have to fix the entire globe's bugs today? ;-) hi all |
| 16:10 | jcamins | slef: but it does mean that. |
| 16:11 | slef: starting with the roaches that keep on wandering into our apartment. :P | |
| 16:14 | slef: any chance I could persuade you to sign off on bug 6800? Should be pretty easy. | |
| 16:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Koha authentication should handle proxies better |
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| 16:16 | slef | jcamins: I'm working on synchronisation for the next hour, sorry. Maybe if I get some more hack time after people leave this evening. |
| 16:17 | jcamins | slef: ah well. It was worth a try. ;) |
| 16:18 | slef | I'm sympathetic to the bug but I don't have a HTTP proxy immediately to hand (does it afflict SOCKS proxies?), so it's not simple. |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | well that's odd |
| 16:18 | jcamins | I don't think it affects SOCKS proxies. |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | clicking the x for cancel hold prompts to create a new hold? |
| 16:18 | jcamins | Actually, I guess I should try that. |
| 16:19 | wizzyrea | and the up/down buttons do the same thing |
| 16:19 | slef | jcamins: I can try that but I don't think it would because you don't often pool them, if the bug is what I think it is |
| 16:20 | proxy pools, isn't it? | |
| 16:20 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 16:20 | Also reverse proxies. | |
| 16:20 | slef | when/where? |
| 16:20 | wahanui | when/where is it? |
| 16:21 | slef | ooh, I've tons of reverse proxies around... but no, I must sort this sync bug out first ;-) stop trying to tempt me |
| 16:21 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:21 | slef | Try checking that the length? |
| 16:21 | wahanui | Try checking that the length is greater than zero. |
| 16:21 | kmkale | bye all |
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| 16:22 | jcamins | slef: thanks for pointing out the SOCKS issue. That's not the specific problem I was looking to solve, but it would probably be good to have a follow-up that supports it. |
| 16:22 | slef | oooh, if you have the new autocompleting google, type in "sometimes I like" and see if you get the jesus one. (ht: failblog) |
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| 16:26 | pianohacker | Hallo |
| 16:28 | slef | allo |
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| 16:33 | cait | hi all |
| 16:39 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6840] error in Template.pm in logs <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6840> |
| 16:47 | lastnode | this probably isnt the place to ask stuff about the DDC |
| 16:48 | so please ignore it if it's not applicable | |
| 16:48 | but i was just wondering, if a z39.50 doesnt bring up a DDC call number and i have to create my own | |
| 16:48 | which publications do i combine dewey for | |
| 16:49 | like 973 = north america + .05 (periodicals) | |
| 16:49 | to make 973.50 | |
| 16:49 | slef | you need a cataloguer. I'm not one but maybe one is here. There might be a better place, but I don't know where. |
| 16:49 | lastnode | ok |
| 16:50 | jcamins | lastnode: you'll probably want the official DDC book. |
| 16:50 | slef | I wonder if this is the sort of thing AACR and so say. |
| 16:50 | jcamins | No, it's not in AACR2. |
| 16:50 | See http://www.oclc.org/dewey/ | |
| 16:51 | They're mostly online, these days, but there's still a print version. | |
| 16:51 | lastnode | for most stuff tough |
| 16:51 | the march record we import should have it, right | |
| 16:51 | jcamins | lastnode: I'd give you... |
| 16:51 | even odds. | |
| 16:52 | lastnode | :) |
| 17:17 | francharb | jcamins: finally, i got what i wanted! it's maybe dirty but it worked :) select count(*) from biblioitems where marcxml like '%controlfield tag="009"%'; |
| 17:17 | ;) | |
| 17:17 | jcamins | francharb: heh. That works. :) |
| 17:18 | francharb | :) |
| 17:18 | hdl and laurence_l helped me! | |
| 17:18 | cait | hi francharb :) |
| 17:18 | francharb | hi cait |
| 17:18 | cait: i didn't forget you | |
| 17:19 | about the gst management development | |
| 17:19 | documentation | |
| 17:19 | wahanui | documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 17:19 | francharb | it's on my todo list! ;) |
| 17:20 | i couldn't make it last time but i will, hopefully, soon! | |
| 17:25 | i wake at 7am and start working a 7:30. it's 7:30pm... i need a break from work... | |
| 17:26 | good afternoon/evening/morning/whatever it is! ;) | |
| 17:26 | bye all | |
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| 18:18 | libsysguy | sekjal you around? |
| 18:18 | sekjal | libsysguy: yup, I'm here |
| 18:19 | libsysguy | just wanted to let you know that I just personally tested fines for hourly (instead of circ) and it seems to be working...but we aren't running automated notices so I can't give you a definite answer on those |
| 18:20 | sekjal | libsysguy: did you set up fines to accrue daily, or hourly? |
| 18:21 | libsysguy | actually I didn't set up fines...margo did but i can go check her work |
| 18:22 | fines are supposed to accrue hourly | |
| 18:22 | chris_n | does it seem odd to anyone that a staff member with catalog permissions must have circulation permissions in order to change branches to catalog under various branches? |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | hm. that soudns like a bug to me |
| 18:23 | chris_n | we have a "central" cataloging crew for all of the various "branch" libraries on campus |
| 18:23 | libsysguy | can somebody look at public lists real quick? |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | but what permission would that fall under, of the ones we have? |
| 18:23 | libsysguy | i can create a public list but my items dont save :'( |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | libsysguy: masteR? |
| 18:23 | wahanui | it has been said that masteR is for 3.6 |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | master? |
| 18:23 | wahanui | i heard master was for 3.6 |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | weird. |
| 18:23 | chris_n | wizzyrea: well, probably if one has cataloging permissions or circulation perms one should be able to switch branches |
| 18:23 | libsysguy | well...no actually |
| 18:24 | cait | libsysguy: from staff or opac? |
| 18:24 | libsysguy | i can't use master since I am testing the hourly branch |
| 18:24 | either | |
| 18:24 | wizzyrea | oh |
| 18:24 | libsysguy | but i was testing opac |
| 18:24 | wizzyrea | i agree, both should be able to do it |
| 18:29 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 2539 - kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6ad8321dde50d12c1> |
| 18:29 | libsysguy | wizzyrea or cait did you see the public thing? |
| 18:29 | or was it a fix that i just missed | |
| 18:29 | wizzyrea | i haven't looked yet >.< |
| 18:29 | libsysguy | eek sorry |
| 18:30 | no rush | |
| 18:30 | i have to head up stairs for a sec | |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | libsysguy_afk: I'm not seeing that problem |
| 18:32 | how exactly were you doing it | |
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| 18:35 | * chris_n | sure will be glad when they plow in that new 25pr service drop :-P |
| 18:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 398 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 15 j ago) |
| 18:38 | cait | oh |
| 18:38 | libsysguy_afk | wizzyrea: i create a public list |
| 18:38 | then do a search | |
| 18:38 | check some items | |
| 18:38 | and then select the list from the dropdown and click save | |
| 18:38 | but nothing shows up when i view the list | |
| 18:40 | libsysguy | also sekjal when is a good time to schedule an IRC meeting about notices |
| 18:42 | sekjal | libsysguy: for me? next week in the morning (East Coast time) or after 3pm (again, East Coast), Tue - Fri |
| 18:42 | need to factor in any other participants local times, though | |
| 18:42 | libsysguy | right |
| 18:42 | i thought cait might want to be in on it | |
| 18:43 | cait | if you don#t make it between midnight and 6 am my time I will try to come |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | libsysguy: that's exactly wht i did |
| 18:43 | and it worked fine for me | |
| 18:43 | libsysguy | dang it so it is just broken in my branch |
| 18:43 | grr | |
| 18:43 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 18:43 | looks that way | |
| 18:43 | * libsysguy | is not happy |
| 18:43 | libsysguy | lol |
| 18:43 | * wizzyrea | pats libsysguy |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | hey at least you didn't discover that the reordering of holds doesn't work. |
| 18:44 | * libsysguy | wishes hourly was in master |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | it isn't because it needs testing or... what |
| 18:44 | lots want it i'm sure | |
| 18:44 | libsysguy | i've signed off on it |
| 18:44 | wizzyrea | it's waiting qa? |
| 18:44 | libsysguy | i guess its...yea that ^^ |
| 18:45 | * wizzyrea | pokes the qa ppls |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | (lovingly) |
| 18:45 | libsysguy | i think i can only poke the qa's so many times before they start poking back |
| 18:45 | rangi | it changes a crapton of stuff |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | oh, hi there |
| 18:45 | libsysguy | yeah it does |
| 18:45 | rangi | sekjal will want to have a pretty good look at it |
| 18:45 | libsysguy | yeah rangi when did you sneak in |
| 18:46 | rangi | scroll back and see when jenkins kicked off a build |
| 18:46 | about then | |
| 18:46 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 18:46 | rangi enters in stealth mode | |
| 18:46 | * sekjal | is buried up to his neck this week, and probably parts of next, so testing will take some time to complete |
| 18:47 | libsysguy | yeah i figured you were buried up past your neck |
| 18:47 | rangi | any others who want to run that branch for a while testing, will most certainly help |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | chris_n you must be running independent branches? |
| 18:47 | interestingly the header only checks for user management perms if you're in indy branches | |
| 18:48 | chris_n | correct |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | if you're not indy, it doesn't check perms at all (afaict) |
| 18:48 | chris_n | probably a whole nest of bugs there, eh |
| 18:48 | * chris_n | reaches for the bug spray |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | well you'd have to be logged in I guess ;) |
| 18:48 | * libsysguy | looks for perl swatter |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | now, the question is |
| 18:49 | jcamins | Why doesn't the standard bibliography note the existence of at least two issues and three states for this book? |
| 18:49 | wizzyrea | do we want it to check for perms without indy branches or not? I'm guessing not? |
| 18:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 6834 followup removing param_map <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5bbc9de31e08d2e85> / Bug 6834 : Removing last of the $template->{param_map} <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]01fc04330c9d9aba1> / Merge branch 'new/bug_6479' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]diff;h=afa94246d3 |
| 18:49 | jcamins | Good uqestion! |
| 18:49 | chris_n | not sure about that |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | chris_n: I think I have a fix ready for your issue, gimme a min to test it |
| 18:50 | chris_n | wow... that's fast :-) |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | file a bug for it? |
| 18:50 | chris_n | om |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | well I didn't mean to stress you out to the point of requiring meditation |
| 18:51 | lol | |
| 18:52 | chris_n | bug 6841 |
| 18:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6841 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , A member with cataloging permissions cannot change branches (when independent branches is set on) |
| 18:52 | chris_n | heh |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | ty :) |
| 18:53 | chris_n | that'd be "oooommmmm" I think |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:53 | * chris_n | was just cherry-picking commits to 3.4.x |
| 18:53 | chris_n | a pretty stress-free job actually :) |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | nice |
| 18:54 | gmcharlt | cherry-picking as mediation? I like |
| 18:54 | er, meditation | |
| 18:54 | though I suppose it could also be mediation, at times | |
| 18:54 | chris_n | lol |
| 18:55 | gmcharlt | actually, yes, it *has* to be mediation at times |
| 18:55 | * chris_n | thinks that all patches filed against search code qualify as bugfixes and not enhancements |
| 18:55 | gmcharlt | how else to resolve conflicts, merge ? |
| 18:55 | chris_n | search code == one big bug |
| 18:55 | rangi | i like its stress free, means we are doing something right |
| 18:58 | chris_n | heh... spoke too soon |
| 18:59 | * chris_n | fixes up a failed merge |
| 18:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6595: [ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Fixing German translation and address formatting (HOLD_P... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bbf3612f7bf0695b7> / Bug 6595:[ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Add German translation of purchase suggestion mails <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f2f9655efaee6f993> |
| 18:59 | chris_n | this sort of thing happens in road construction all the time: people fail to merge early enough |
| 19:00 | jcamins | chris_n: actually, it's best to merge as late as possible. |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 19:01 | scientifically proven | |
| 19:01 | jcamins | There was a book about it. |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | zipper merges are faster |
| 19:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: what was the book? I think you recommended it. |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | i don't remember! |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Traffic? |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | http://www.peterfeddo.com/cont[…]view-book-traffic |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Yup. Traffic. |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea | that seems right |
| 19:03 | rangi | whats not best |
| 19:03 | is to duck out of your lane | |
| 19:03 | zoom up and try to merge in front of me | |
| 19:03 | cos im gonna block your dumb arse | |
| 19:03 | cait | ? |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | right, he talks about the human tendency to do that :) |
| 19:03 | cait | morning rangi |
| 19:03 | chris_n | I've always been of the opinion that if everyone let one car in ahead, things would go more smoothly |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | because it's not fair |
| 19:03 | rangi | thats the route cause of all merge problems |
| 19:03 | queue jumping | |
| 19:04 | :) | |
| 19:04 | * cait | gives up |
| 19:04 | rangi | cait: talking about traffic |
| 19:04 | you dont drive eh? | |
| 19:04 | cait | nope |
| 19:04 | * rangi | hates driving with a passion |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | right, if people just stayed in their lane up to the merge, and did it zipperlike, things would be nice and smooth |
| 19:04 | rangi | makes me want to kill people |
| 19:04 | cait | I avoided it altogether |
| 19:04 | rangi | good choice |
| 19:04 | * chris_n | loves driving |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | i like driving less than I used to |
| 19:04 | chris_n | fast |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | but public transit sucks in kansas. |
| 19:05 | libsysguy | if you think its bad in Kansas... |
| 19:05 | rangi | we have new realtime signs now |
| 19:05 | bus 4 is due in 4 mins | |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | nice! |
| 19:05 | jcamins | They've started adding those in the subways. |
| 19:05 | Still some glitches, though. | |
| 19:05 | rangi | cos they all have gps on them, to do the charging |
| 19:05 | theyve had it in christchurch for about 6 years | |
| 19:05 | cait | bigger cities have those here |
| 19:05 | jcamins | "No train scheduled." |
| 19:05 | rangi | finally got it in wellington |
| 19:06 | plus you can use it on your phone | |
| 19:06 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 19:06 | rangi | the nearest bus stop from you is 50 metres and the bus will be there in 7 mins |
| 19:06 | handy | |
| 19:07 | handy for cafes too' | |
| 19:07 | cos an espresso takes about 4-5 mins to make | |
| 19:07 | so i know i can duck in a get one, and not miss my bus :) | |
| 19:07 | cait | hehe |
| 19:08 | jcamins | rangi: yes, but does it tell you "the bus you are on is going to suddenly, and for no particular reason, change routes and bring you in the opposite direction from where you were going, dropping you off in a place that has no other bus stops, thus requiring you to walk the entire route you were trying to take the bus to avoid walking"? |
| 19:08 | rangi | chris_n: actually i hated driving in the US less than here |
| 19:08 | jcamins: luckily that doesnt happen here | |
| 19:08 | however the bus from toledo to cleveland | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | rangi: I guess the technology isn't ready for New York yet. |
| 19:09 | rangi | im not doing that again |
| 19:10 | cait | long? |
| 19:11 | rangi | not super long, but scary |
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| 19:13 | rangi | made quite a few stops along the way, some of those bus stations are scary!! |
| 19:14 | jcamins | That does sound a bit hair-raising. |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | some places in the US are scary :P |
| 19:15 | chris_n | rangi: the fix for bug 6656 does not apply cleanly to 3.4.x |
| 19:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6656 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search |
| 19:15 | jcamins | wizzyrea: actually, my experience has been that most bus rides of any significant distance in the US are kind of unnerving. |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 19:16 | plus, bus travel is sorely mismanaged in the US | |
| 19:16 | they put bus stops in the weirdest places | |
| 19:16 | and they're usually not looked after very well | |
| 19:16 | hence, scary | |
| 19:17 | well and the sheer size of the US makes busses... well, les easy | |
| 19:17 | less* | |
| 19:17 | * cait | makes a mental not not to travel by bus in us |
| 19:17 | jcamins | We were in Delaware a few weeks ago for Shari's cousin's daughter's wedding. We took the bus down. |
| 19:17 | rangi | chris_n: whats the conflict? |
| 19:18 | chris_n | both files have conflicts |
| 19:19 | rangi | ill do a rebase of it for 3.4.x and attach to the bug |
| 19:19 | chris_n | looks a bit messy |
| 19:19 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4966 - follow up - add xhtml closure for input tags <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]891e816da014a8c4e> / bug4966 - follow up to 4966 changes language from 'end' to 'finish' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]67ac0da345d20a0a0> / bug 4966: Add a button in parcel.pl for confirm end receiving <http://git.koha-commun |
| 19:19 | chris_n | so I figured I'd better leave it to you |
| 19:20 | jcamins | It dropped us off in an empty parking lot behind a random strip mall. |
| 19:20 | cait: wise. | |
| 19:20 | The word "finish" gives more closure than the word "end"? | |
| 19:20 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #398: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/398/ |
| 19:20 | oleonard: Fix for Bug 2539 - kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded | |
| 19:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2539 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , kohaspsuggest is deprecated, notes outmoded |
| 19:20 | rangi | apparently slow |
| 19:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 399 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #385 15 j ago) |
| 19:21 | chris_n | rangi: same lines in both files; starts about line 210 or so |
| 19:21 | rangi | so too |
| 19:21 | jcamins: personally i think 'i will end you' sounds more final :) | |
| 19:21 | cait | bug 6458 feels endless |
| 19:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6458 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , incorrect parsing result in translation processing |
| 19:24 | chris_n | man, that's one bunch of commits |
| 19:24 | aarkerio | hi! there is way to add a PDF in Koha? I mean, just add the URL to PDF file |
| 19:26 | jcamins | libsysguy: looks like a fix to the RIS export was pushed. |
| 19:26 | aarkerio: if you're using MARC21, you probably want the 856 tag. | |
| 19:26 | rangi | chris_n: new patch attached |
| 19:27 | aarkerio | great! thanks!! |
| 19:27 | chris_n | rangi: tnx |
| 19:28 | rangi | or 952u aarkerio if you want it to be attached to an item, the choice is yours :) |
| 19:29 | jcamins | rangi: I didn't even know about 952u. Interesting. |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | grr too bad im not on master jcamins |
| 19:30 | jcamins | libsysguy: ah, yes it is. |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | soon hopefully |
| 19:30 | whenever hourly gets pushed i can go back | |
| 19:30 | rangi | libsysguy: you could cherry-pick the fix? |
| 19:31 | libsysguy | thats true...but i did set up the server end |
| 19:31 | i just need to call refworks to see if they can connect now | |
| 19:31 | rangi | 6 days to rugby world cup starts |
| 19:31 | jcamins | libsysguy: oh, I guess I won't ask how it works, then. |
| 19:32 | libsysguy | z39.50 i think |
| 19:32 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLETRsaL8DA |
| 19:32 | libsysguy | but im not well versed on the topic |
| 19:32 | aarkerio | I can't see 952, I have 955 in 9 tab (MARC21 FORMAT) |
| 19:33 | jcamins | libsysguy: I meant, whether you were finding it successful. ;) |
| 19:33 | cait | aarkerio: it's a field in the item |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | rangi, that's silly |
| 19:34 | rangi | it is |
| 19:34 | aarkerio | ooh! I see, thanks! |
| 19:34 | rangi | first game is nz vs tonga |
| 19:34 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]g&feature=related | |
| 19:34 | like this ! | |
| 19:34 | aarkerio | I will go to NZ to open the first real chimichanga bar! |
| 19:35 | rangi | hehe you should |
| 19:35 | because i will eat all of them | |
| 19:36 | my sons love churros | |
| 19:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 39 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:36 | aarkerio | In : http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd856.html |
| 19:36 | 4 means "d" ? | |
| 19:37 | jcamins | aarkerio: huh? |
| 19:37 | chris_n | @later tell eythian I pushed 6275; let me know if there are others related to packaging that I've missed; thanks |
| 19:37 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:38 | aarkerio | I see "4 - HTTP" in documentation, but I see letters (a,b,c) in Koha marc format |
| 19:38 | jcamins | aarkerio: the 4 refers to the indicator. |
| 19:38 | You have to set the indicators and the subfields. | |
| 19:38 | cait | hm |
| 19:38 | someone using branch transfer limits? | |
| 19:39 | rangi | 856u aarkerio |
| 19:39 | @marc 856u | |
| 19:39 | huginn | rangi: unknown tag 856u |
| 19:39 | rangi | @marc 856 |
| 19:39 | huginn | rangi: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) |
| 19:39 | cait | I can't save changes and i can't switch to another library |
| 19:39 | jcamins | aarkerio: actually, I'm not sure you need the indicator, since it's impossible to preview a PDF in Koha. |
| 19:39 | rangi | u for url is how i remember it |
| 19:40 | aarkerio | mm, I got it!!! thanks |
| 19:40 | I want to add the URL in MARC, so the user can download the PDF book | |
| 19:43 | rangi | yup 856u is all you need for koha to show the url, you can put stuff in v (i think) and it will use that as the text of the link |
| 19:44 | jcamins | Hm. v doesn't sound quite right. |
| 19:44 | @marc 856 z | |
| 19:44 | huginn | jcamins: Public note (Repeatable) |
| 19:44 | jcamins | @marc 856 x |
| 19:44 | huginn | jcamins: Nonpublic note (Repeatable) |
| 19:44 | jcamins | @marc 856 y |
| 19:44 | huginn | jcamins: Link text (Repeatable) |
| 19:45 | jcamins | 856$y is preferred, but Koha will fall back to 856$z. |
| 19:46 | rangi | ta jcamins |
| 19:46 | jwagner | If I remember correctly, the XSLT first looks for a description in 856$3, then $z |
| 19:47 | jcamins | jwagner: that sounds very familiar. |
| 19:47 | jwagner | I remember thinking it was backwards -- I've always thought the $z was the preferred subfield. |
| 19:48 | jcamins | No, $z should be a last choice. |
| 19:48 | * jcamins | actually looks at the code. |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Turns out that $y $3 and $z are all displayed, if they're available. |
| 19:48 | cait | and if you don#t have that - the syspref kicks in |
| 19:48 | and after that a static text :) | |
| 19:48 | rangi | oh yeah thats right |
| 19:49 | i forgot the syspref | |
| 19:49 | cait | am i the only one to think this is super cautious? |
| 19:50 | jcamins | cait: I was just thinking we should an option so if you don't have anything in the record, and the syspref isn't filled in, the OPAC uses Javascript to ask the user what the text of the links should be. :P |
| 19:50 | rangi | heh |
| 19:50 | cait | hehe |
| 19:52 | jwagner | Or displays one of oleonard's dancing icons.... |
| 19:52 | jcamins | Uses javascript to fetch the target site's favicon? |
| 19:53 | cait | with accustic support |
| 19:53 | jwagner | And retractable arm with hammer coming out of screen to bash user over the head? |
| 19:53 | cait | nah, that's so violent |
| 19:53 | jwagner | I think I'll go home, on that note. Happy holiday weekend to those for whom it is a holiday..... |
| 19:59 | cait | hm |
| 20:00 | can someon confirm problems with branch-transfer-limits? | |
| 20:01 | jcamins | Has anyone pointed out to Sheldon that nozebra is unsupported and deprecated? |
| 20:02 | rangi | what does the nozebra table store? |
| 20:02 | isnt it the indexes? | |
| 20:02 | if it is and he truncates, hes gonna have to use zebra | |
| 20:02 | jcamins | No idea. |
| 20:03 | Ah, good call. He'll notice that nozebra doesn't work after truncating. | |
| 20:04 | cait | I thik some might have confused it with tze zebraqueue table |
| 20:04 | you want to truncate that and there is a cronjob to do so | |
| 20:04 | rangi | yeah |
| 20:04 | jcamins | True. |
| 20:10 | cait | hm |
| 20:10 | gbsd already over? | |
| 20:10 | LBA joined #koha | |
| 20:12 | sekjal | any recall a problem with circulation receipts not printing properly onto new lines? |
| 20:13 | cait | slips? |
| 20:15 | sekjal | cait: yes |
| 20:15 | it looks like a bunch of the lines are writing over each other | |
| 20:15 | cait | sorry, have not seen it |
| 20:16 | rangi | id suspect the printer first |
| 20:16 | cos im not sure how its possible to make text over top of itself in html | |
| 20:16 | sekjal | as would I, but this has apparently just started with the upgrade to 3.4 |
| 20:17 | * rangi | struggles to think how it would be possible to do |
| 20:17 | sekjal | my suspicion is that it has something to do with text that's not nested inside tags |
| 20:18 | rangi | and the printer just keeps printing it overtop of itself? |
| 20:18 | sekjal | on SOME of the lines |
| 20:18 | the library name is fine, then its a line of overwritten, then "checked out today" is fine | |
| 20:18 | rangi | mental |
| 20:18 | sekjal | then several lines overwritten |
| 20:18 | second to last title shows up clear | |
| 20:19 | then some space, and the News and news title show up fine | |
| 20:19 | but the news content is overwritten | |
| 20:19 | rangi | maybe the printer is retarded and only does a new line on explicit linefeeds |
| 20:19 | and the old template had them in or something | |
| 20:19 | sekjal | the "posted on" date is fine |
| 20:19 | rangi | so short lines are ok? |
| 20:20 | sekjal | line length could be it |
| 20:20 | rangi | long lines it prints over itself |
| 20:20 | sekjal | about 23 characters seems to be the limit |
| 20:20 | rangi | sounds like a stupid printer driver, but we should be able to counteract that |
| 20:21 | by making it wrap at 23 in the template | |
| 20:21 | but, its probably a localised problem | |
| 20:21 | so you might need a custom print.css | |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | sekjal what kind of printeR? |
| 20:21 | do you know? | |
| 20:22 | sekjal | wizzyrea: no, I don't know the printer |
| 20:22 | apparently it's the "Windows Generic/Text driver" | |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | oooo |
| 20:22 | * wizzyrea | wonders what kind of printer it *really* is |
| 20:23 | cait | hmm |
| 20:24 | rangi | i hate printers |
| 20:24 | trea | ^^^ |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | uch, hard copy |
| 20:24 | sekjal | I'm wondering why it worked before TT, but not after |
| 20:24 | rangi | probably just whitespace changes |
| 20:25 | they are sure they didnt change anything else, like upgrade windows or anything :) | |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | nexpress didn't have any issues like that |
| 20:26 | rangi | yeah, i havent bumped into it before either |
| 20:26 | sekjal | addition of <script> tag, perhaps? |
| 20:26 | wizzyrea | do you know, is it a thermal or a really old impact printer |
| 20:26 | rangi | perhaps |
| 20:27 | sekjal | yeah, comparing tmpl to tt, that's the only difference I can see |
| 20:27 | rangi | checked the css changes? |
| 20:28 | (if there were any) | |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | chris_n: still about? |
| 20:30 | sekjal | only one that seems relevant is the font-size:12px added to 'body' (which is the root element for all the overwritten text, I believe) |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | hm, can someone else check this for me - when adding a label batch by scanned barcodes, it never adds the items |
| 20:31 | rhcl | we haven't had any strange printer issues w/ our upgrade |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | (master, please) |
| 20:33 | rangi | sekjal: hmmmm i wonder if it was just a really small font before? |
| 20:34 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #399: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 h 13 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/399/ |
| 20:34 | * frederick.capovilla: Bug 6479 Converts all the serialseq variables to UTF-8. | |
| 20:34 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6834 : Removing last of the $template->{param_map} | |
| 20:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6479 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, NEW , Encoding problem in "recievedlist" when the numbering formula contains utf-8 characters |
| 20:34 | jenkins_koha | * henridamien.laurent: bug 6834 followup removing param_map |
| 20:34 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6595:[ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Add German translation of purchase suggestion mails | |
| 20:34 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6595: [ENH] [SIGNED-OFF] Fixing German translation and address formatting (HOLD_PRINT) | |
| 20:34 | * alex.arnaud: bug 4966: Add a button in parcel.pl for confirm end receiving | |
| 20:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6834 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , $template->{param_map} is deprecated with the introduction of Template::Toolkit |
| 20:34 | jenkins_koha | * nengard: bug4966 - follow up to 4966 changes language from 'end' to 'finish' |
| 20:34 | * alex.arnaud: Bug 4966 - follow up - add xhtml closure for input tags | |
| 20:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6595 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add German translation for purchase suggestion mails |
| 20:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4966 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, alex.arnaud, NEW , no way to finish receiving | |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | bother! |
| 20:35 | BOTHER! | |
| 20:35 | * wizzyrea | mutters |
| 20:35 | rangi | ? |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | labels. |
| 20:37 | it works in master, but definitely does not in our master as of yesterday production install | |
| 20:38 | I find this bewildering. | |
| 20:38 | rangi | hmm, i dont think i pushed anything to do with labels for ages |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | well owen did some stuff to the interface not too long ago |
| 20:39 | jcamins | wizzyrea: javascript run amuck? |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | oh, hm |
| 20:39 | good pt. | |
| 20:39 | * wizzyrea | checks |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | thanks for reminding me :) |
| 20:44 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | mmmm no, I don't think so |
| 20:44 | jcamins | Darn. |
| 20:44 | Seemed logical. | |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | very |
| 20:45 | what else is unique to ours | |
| 20:45 | * wizzyrea | ponders |
| 20:45 | cait | hm |
| 20:46 | some configuration settings? | |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | well yea |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #39: SUCCESS in 1 h 10 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/39/ |
| 20:46 | * tomascohen: Bug 6744 - Acknowledge the actual es-ES translators | |
| 20:46 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6640, Locations not showing in circ reports | |
| 20:46 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6754, Improve breadcrumbs on lists pages | |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6744 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW , Acknowledge the actual es-ES translators |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6753, Markup corrections and improvements for label export window |
| 20:46 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6703 : Link to invoice broken | |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6640 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Template errors in defining default variable values causes information not to be displayed |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6728, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions |
| 20:46 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned | |
| 20:46 | * magnus: Bug 6540 - Followup - koha-create would die without --configfile | |
| 20:46 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6602 - Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns | |
| 20:46 | * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5498, Standardize markup and style of pagination menus | |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6754 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Improve breadcrumbs on lists pages |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | * salvazm: Bug 6727 - Change on exporting and importing csv to deal with spurious CR/LF |
| 20:46 | * oleonard: Follow-up to Bug 4868, Improve controls for cloning and deleting subfields | |
| 20:46 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6695 - Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken | |
| 20:46 | * nengard: bug 6538 update letter.pl help file | |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6753 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Markup corrections and improvements for label export window |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 6562: Silence runtime error in reserve/request.pl |
| 20:46 | * wvanwanrooij: Bug 6723 : import-framework-crlf | |
| 20:46 | * Chris Cormack: 150th developer!!! | |
| 20:46 | * Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in history doc | |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6703 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED FIXED, can't see invoice content |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6726 - When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned |
| 20:46 | * oleonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 6753, Markup corrections and improvements for label export window | |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6728 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Table sorter for receiving acquisitions |
| 20:46 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6726 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , When SMS is enabled the messaging table is misaligned | |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5866 : Updated patch to speed up holds awaiting pickup |
| 20:46 | * chris.nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.04.04.001 | |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6540 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add more options to koha-create |
| 20:46 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6602 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns | |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | * m.de.rooy: 6747 Checks in opac-export |
| 20:46 | * nengard: Bug 6662: Remove Dewey Specific References in Sort | |
| 20:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5498 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize markup and style of pagination menus |
| 20:46 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6727 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED , can't import frameworks | |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 4419 - cannot change module for notice templates |
| 20:46 | * ulrich.kleiber: Bug 6765: sip2 unicode checksum | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4868 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve controls for cloning and deleting MARC subfields |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 6733 - Change return page after printing routing slip |
| 20:47 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6791 - editing list with apostrophe loses text | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6695 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Layout of patron category add/edit form slightly broken |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6652, Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin |
| 20:47 | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6696, New category button broken when no categories defined | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6538 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , help on letter.pl is incorrect |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6712 - Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed |
| 20:47 | * Chris Cormack: Updating about page and history | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6562 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, Reserve request generates unnecessary runtime errors |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6723 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, wvanwanrooij, ASSIGNED , allow framework import with CRLF | |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * preprod34: Bug 6715 - Fix xmlControlfield.js so the xml files are fetched in the correct language directory. |
| 20:47 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6528 : Cataloguing search not showing location for available items | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5866 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW , At larger hold volume, waitingreserves.pl for all libraries times out, can cause generalized slowness |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5524 : Cant delete list from the second page of lists |
| 20:47 | * maxime.pelletier: Bug 6794 : Fixing a bug with member flags in IE | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6662 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , sort options in opac are dewey specific |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6704 : Escaping html in the merging records, so " don't break the merge |
| 20:47 | * ian.walls: Bug 6351: Cannot delete library-specific holds polices and checkout limits | |
| 20:47 | * stevecallender: Bug 6822: fix RIS export from OPAC | |
| 20:47 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6656 : Fix for advanced search not respecting default sort order | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4419 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cannot change module for notice templates |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6765 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ulrich.kleiber, NEW , Enable correct checksums for UTF-8 encoded data | |
| 20:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 40 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6733 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED , printing routing list sends you to main serials page |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6791 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , editing list with apostrophe loses text | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6652 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Zip showing in funny place on libraries admin | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6696 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , New category button broken when no categories defined | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6712 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Remove memberofinstitution markup from templates until it can be completed | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6715 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , xmlControlField.js always fetches the value_builder xml files in the "en" directory. | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6528 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloging search issues - Holdings not displayed in location column | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5524 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Can't delete list from second page of results | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6794 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Broken toggle in member-flags in ie | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6704 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , merging records cuts off fields at quotation marks | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6351 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Cannot delete library-specific circulation rules | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6822 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , RIS export problem in opac-export.pl with parsing the MARC | |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6656 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Default sort preferences ignored on advanced search | |
| 20:48 | rangi | 50 trillion patches pushed to 3.4.x i see :) |
| 20:48 | libsysguy | bot fight |
| 20:48 | cait | :) |
| 20:50 | mugwump joined #koha | |
| 20:50 | rangi | oh hey its sam :) |
| 20:51 | mugwump | ohai |
| 20:51 | cait | hi mugwump |
| 20:51 | rangi | you stateside yet? |
| 20:51 | mugwump | yeah |
| 20:51 | rangi | cool |
| 20:51 | mugwump | been working at Say for a week now |
| 20:51 | rangi | sweet, enjoying it? |
| 20:51 | mugwump | yeah it's good |
| 20:52 | a very well organized workplace | |
| 20:52 | rangi | awesome |
| 20:52 | mugwump | I particularly respect their use of gerrit |
| 20:52 | rangi | ahh yeah gerrit is pretty cool, mahara are using that now |
| 20:53 | mugwump | I saw Shawn show it off in 2008 |
| 20:53 | wizzyrea | you know what |
| 20:53 | never mind, it has something to do with indexing. | |
| 20:53 | sekjal | have a good weekend, #koha! |
| 21:00 | * cait | gives up on branch transfers |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 21:01 | uh oh | |
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| 21:04 | cait | oh |
| 21:04 | tranfer limits | |
| 21:04 | that thing | |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | oh. ordie |
| 21:04 | cait | the template seems totally broken to me |
| 21:06 | libsysguy | is anybody running cacti with their koha install |
| 21:07 | cait | cacti? |
| 21:07 | libsysguy | it is like a system resource monitoring utility |
| 21:07 | its pretty popular | |
| 21:07 | http://www.cacti.net/ | |
| 21:07 | * jcamins | always found it a bit too prickly, himself. |
| 21:07 | libsysguy | hehe ^^ |
| 21:09 | rhcl | libsysguy: why do you ask? Setting it up here (but not on our Koha server) is one of the things I intend to do "real soon now". |
| 21:10 | libsysguy | well I was installing it via apt but i want to use thold...but apparently there is a problem patching the plugin architecture with the apt version |
| 21:11 | rhcl | um, don't know anything about that. |
| 21:11 | libsysguy | were you planning to use thold? |
| 21:11 | rhcl | I've often thought that cacti would be great on some portable appliance. |
| 21:12 | no | |
| 21:12 | libsysguy | oh darn... |
| 21:12 | and it actually works really well if you are talking about viewing it on a mobile device | |
| 21:12 | rhcl | but that really wasn't a hard plan. I was just going to set it up and kick the tires and see what it would do for me |
| 21:13 | libsysguy | well thold can send you email or sms when certain thresholds are reached |
| 21:13 | so for instance if the load hits 10...alert the server is about to die | |
| 21:14 | rangi | catalyst use nagios for that |
| 21:14 | rhcl | yea, I had fellow student (ex-student now?) that ran cacti, and he demo'd it on his iPad for one of our classes |
| 21:14 | rangi | eythian actually has a bunch of nagios plugins for koha |
| 21:14 | which we have to tidy up and put up somewhere for everyone to use | |
| 21:14 | rhcl | it was impressive, but I've just got lots of things to do in a day |
| 21:14 | rangi | they do things like check the zebraqueue |
| 21:14 | rhcl | and haven't gotten arount to that |
| 21:15 | rangi | and other koha specific stuff |
| 21:15 | libsysguy | nice...i may try that instead |
| 21:15 | rangi | try to catch eythian next week |
| 21:15 | he knows more about them than me | |
| 21:16 | libsysguy | ok cool |
| 21:17 | rangi | i hope he is out enjoying the sunshine, he deserves a good break after covering for me at work for 3 days last week |
| 21:17 | libsysguy | oh yeah how are you feeling? |
| 21:17 | rangi | antibiotics seem to have done the trick |
| 21:18 | libsysguy | excellent |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 21:19 | rhcl | sparks flea market this weekend wizzyrea |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | oo |
| 21:21 | rhcl | http://www.sparksfleamarket.com/ |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 21:25 | jcamins | Good night, #koha. |
| 21:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #40: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/40/ |
| 21:27 | robin: Bug 6275 - allow automated backups for packages | |
| 21:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6275 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, RESOLVED FIXED, Automated backups of data and config |
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| 21:53 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 21:54 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (9:00 AM NZST on September 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:54 | rangi | nice, i should get out of the house and enjoy the sun |
| 21:54 | see ya's later | |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 21:54 | lata | |
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| 22:52 | rangi | @later tell paul_p my kids are taking me here http://www.lacloche.co.nz/ for fathers day tomorrow, i will be thinking of you and the rest of the biblibrans :) |
| 22:52 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 23:27 | wizzyrea | that looks awesome |
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