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| 00:15 | jcamins_away | I need a report that will give me a list of all records that *don't* have anything in the 751$a? |
| 00:15 | Whoops. Missed the rest of that sentence. | |
| 00:16 | s/\?/ does anyone happen to know how to do that off the top of their head? | |
| 00:17 | nengard | jcamins_away this might be a help: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_without_subjects |
| 00:17 | eythian | you could use the extractxml thing, and check to see if it IS NULL (or maybe empty string) |
| 00:17 | or use a reference :) | |
| 00:17 | nengard | it's not what you want, but it's a report looking for empty subjects |
| 00:17 | jcamins_away | nengard: thanks. |
| 00:17 | I knew someone had done it. | |
| 00:17 | nengard | no prob |
| 00:17 | :) | |
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| 01:50 | abdullatef | Hi everybody! |
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| 02:03 | jcamins_away | Hi, abdullatef. |
| 02:03 | libsysguy joined #koha | |
| 02:03 | jcamins_away | And libsysguy. |
| 02:03 | And NateC. | |
| 02:03 | libsysguy | hey jcamins_away |
| 02:03 | wahanui1 | jcamins_away are you actually away? |
| 02:04 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 02:04 | jcamins | wahanui1: what's with the attitude? |
| 02:04 | wahanui1 | jcamins: i haven't a clue |
| 02:05 | libsysguy | wahanui1 wahanui1 on the irc...who's the fairest of them all |
| 02:05 | wahanui1 | libsysguy: huh? |
| 02:05 | libsysguy | heh |
| 02:05 | hey jcamins can you give me a hand with something | |
| 02:05 | jcamins | libsysguy: I can try. |
| 02:05 | libsysguy | bug 5079 that i wrote a patch for |
| 02:05 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tdavis, ASSIGNED , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs |
| 02:05 | libsysguy | i deleted on accident |
| 02:06 | and when i try and apply my submitted patch | |
| 02:06 | i get a conflict and it fails | |
| 02:06 | jcamins | Create a new branch, and apply the patch from scratch? |
| 02:07 | libsysguy | i can attempt that...one sec |
| 02:09 | i still get a conflict | |
| 02:09 | it happens with the updatedatabase.pl script | |
| 02:09 | jcamins | And you can't resolve it? |
| 02:09 | Oh, of course. | |
| 02:09 | libsysguy | is there something im missing? |
| 02:10 | jcamins | Yes. You will *always* have a conflict in the updatedatabase.pl script. |
| 02:10 | libsysguy | *smh* |
| 02:10 | jcamins | You have to resolve it every time you rebase. |
| 02:10 | libsysguy | aww man |
| 02:11 | ok so...to resolve it...i don't see a .mine or HEAD | |
| 02:11 | so its not a content conflict | |
| 02:11 | rangi | git status |
| 02:11 | check that it has conflict | |
| 02:11 | then edit the fille | |
| 02:11 | look for a line with | |
| 02:11 | <<<<<<< | |
| 02:11 | libsysguy | it doesn't look like its in conflict...i've got several untracked files |
| 02:12 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in AuthoritiesMarc.pm so it won't destroy... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9763737065635e68a> |
| 02:13 | libsysguy | and there is no <<<<<< section in the update file |
| 02:14 | rangi | oh, so its not a conflict then, just hte patch is not applying? |
| 02:14 | whats the exact message you get when you apply it? | |
| 02:14 | libsysguy | error: patch failed: installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl:4354 |
| 02:14 | error: installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl: patch does not apply | |
| 02:14 | and some trailing whitespace warnings | |
| 02:14 | rangi | yeah, thats not a conflict, the patch is busted |
| 02:14 | libsysguy | :'( |
| 02:14 | my patch is busted | |
| 02:15 | so...is there anything i can do or am i totally done for? | |
| 02:15 | rangi | usually that happens when you formatted it against a commit that doesnt exist in the branch you are trying to apply it to |
| 02:15 | is it attached to the bug? | |
| 02:15 | libsysguy | yes |
| 02:15 | rangi | 2 secs ill look |
| 02:15 | libsysguy | thanks rangi |
| 02:16 | rangi | first one, or second patch on that bug? |
| 02:16 | libsysguy | both actaully |
| 02:16 | first then second...sekjal told me the wrong way to do it instead of just amending it | |
| 02:16 | :'( | |
| 02:17 | rangi | will give it a try |
| 02:17 | libsysguy | ok thanks |
| 02:18 | rangi | first patch applies, gives me a conflict |
| 02:18 | CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl | |
| 02:19 | how were you trying to apply it? | |
| 02:19 | git am -iu3 patchname | |
| 02:19 | ? | |
| 02:19 | libsysguy | git bz apply 5079 |
| 02:19 | rangi | yeah ok |
| 02:19 | libsysguy | ok |
| 02:19 | rangi | if htat fails |
| 02:19 | you will notice it says something like | |
| 02:19 | Patch left in /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-location-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch | |
| 02:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 353 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #351 1 j 1 h ago) |
| 02:19 | libsysguy | yes i see that |
| 02:19 | rangi | do a git am --abort |
| 02:20 | the git am -iu3 /tmp/Patch-to-addremove-shelving-location-in-xslt-opac--DbLtBy.patch | |
| 02:20 | libsysguy | ok |
| 02:20 | rangi | whatever the filename actually is |
| 02:20 | -3 says try a 3 way merge | |
| 02:21 | libsysguy | ohh i see the content conflict now |
| 02:21 | rangi | cool |
| 02:21 | then you fix that, and try the next patch ;) | |
| 02:22 | libsysguy | sweet |
| 02:22 | thanks rangi | |
| 02:22 | rangi++ | |
| 02:22 | rangi | np |
| 02:24 | libsysguy | sweet it works...rangi...you the man |
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| 02:46 | jcamins | Argh! "Lugduni" is both Leiden and Lyons. |
| 03:03 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 03:03 | Project Koha_master build #353: FIXED in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/353/ | |
| 03:03 | frederick.capovilla: Bug 5737: Modified the merge subroutine in AuthoritiesMarc.pm so it won't destroy the connection to the biblioserver. | |
| 03:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5737 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , ZOOM connection problem in merge_authority.pl when trying to do a batch merge. |
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| 03:24 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 03:31 | mtj | heya kmkale |
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| 03:49 | new | hello all |
| 03:49 | i wouldlike to ask regarding koha 3.02.00 | |
| 03:49 | i've completed the installation | |
| 03:49 | and it all went well | |
| 03:50 | i import data using Z39.50 and the data inputted into reservoir | |
| 03:50 | but i canno search the record inputted | |
| 03:50 | rangi | 3.2.0 ? why did you choose that? its quite old |
| 03:51 | 3.4.3 is the latest release .. 3.2.10 was the last release of the 3.2.x line | |
| 03:51 | new | my library just migrated the old v2 koha into 3.2 |
| 03:51 | is 3.2.10 does no have this problem anymore? | |
| 03:52 | rangi | well there has been 10 bug fix releases since 3.2.0 .. and then 3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.6 3.4.3 so its a about 9 months and lots of bug fixes behind current |
| 03:52 | but what you are describing is not a bug | |
| 03:52 | the reserviour is not the catalogue | |
| 03:53 | you have to add the record into the catalogue, you did that? | |
| 03:53 | new | i do not know how |
| 03:53 | rangi | and you have zebra running? and your cron job set up to build the indexes? |
| 03:53 | new | would you help me? |
| 03:53 | rangi | have you read the manual? |
| 03:53 | new | yup |
| 03:53 | rangi | it tells you how to add a record |
| 03:53 | thats all i can tell you to do, the same as the manual says | |
| 03:54 | new | i did read the manual but it tells about importing records in bulk |
| 03:55 | but i did not found any if i want to input one record at a time | |
| 03:56 | rangi | it does |
| 03:56 | ill find the page | |
| 03:57 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]h=c8245#addbibrec | |
| 03:59 | libsysguy | I have a question about notices |
| 03:59 | new | yes i did read that page |
| 03:59 | libsysguy | is it true that you can only send 3 notices per overdue? |
| 03:59 | new | but when i finished inputting it, when i search using opac it appears not results found |
| 03:59 | libsysguy | new |
| 04:00 | its probably not rebuilding zebra | |
| 04:00 | did you set up your cron to do that? | |
| 04:00 | new | yeah |
| 04:00 | libsysguy | what is your rebuild rate set at? |
| 04:00 | default is 10 mins i thing | |
| 04:00 | think* | |
| 04:00 | new | hold on i check |
| 04:00 | libsysguy | so it would take 10 minutes for your item to show up |
| 04:01 | new | lest than 3 seconds |
| 04:01 | in fact i just want to try to add in only one new records | |
| 04:01 | libsysguy | well until that record is indexed it won't show up in the opac |
| 04:01 | new | but the there were few fatal process, warn and etc |
| 04:02 | would you show me how plz? | |
| 04:02 | libsysguy | try this: perl /path/to/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -v -reset |
| 04:02 | this will reset and rebuild your entire zebra index | |
| 04:03 | new | ok i'll try |
| 04:03 | libsysguy | ok |
| 04:04 | btw rangi is right you should probably try using 3.4 | |
| 04:05 | new | it appears error "Could not select database biblios errCode=109" |
| 04:05 | i really want to try 3.4 but my bos already ask the vendor to have 3.2 | |
| 04:05 | libsysguy | ok well that is probably the root of your issue |
| 04:06 | did you say you upgraded? | |
| 04:06 | new | yeah from 2.2.9 to 3.2.0 |
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| 04:06 | libsysguy | did you dump your database then drop it before you upgraded? |
| 04:06 | new | fyi i'm not using the older database |
| 04:07 | libsysguy | ok that is what i was getting at |
| 04:07 | lol | |
| 04:07 | new | the reason is i want to relearn about koha 3.2 |
| 04:07 | it seems like i want to start from scratch | |
| 04:07 | libsysguy | i am curious why it is looking for the biblios table |
| 04:08 | the table name is biblio | |
| 04:08 | new | is it in the mysql |
| 04:08 | ? | |
| 04:08 | libsysguy | yes |
| 04:08 | new | i really not good at it |
| 04:08 | libsysguy | if you log into mysql and do: show tables; |
| 04:08 | you should see a table called biblio | |
| 04:09 | before you upgraded you dumped your database right? | |
| 04:09 | new | yeah |
| 04:09 | rangi | thats a zebra error |
| 04:09 | libsysguy | |
| 04:09 | wahanui1 | libsysguy is probably curious why it is looking for the biblios table |
| 04:09 | rangi | not mysql |
| 04:10 | new | oo i c |
| 04:10 | libsysguy | yes i was rangi |
| 04:10 | new | then what should i do to fix it? |
| 04:10 | libsysguy | how did wahanui1 read my mind |
| 04:10 | rangi | so the biblio/biblios thing is a red herring |
| 04:10 | "Could not select database biblios errCode=109" is a zebra error | |
| 04:10 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 04:10 | silly zebra | |
| 04:10 | rangi | well its not zebra |
| 04:11 | ppl blame it, but its always actually us | |
| 04:11 | libsysguy | i think i'd like to continue blaming it...it seems to be easier that way lol |
| 04:11 | rangi | id, talk to your vendor new, and say, is zebra indexing working |
| 04:11 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 04:11 | rangi | because from that error, it certainly doesnt look like it is |
| 04:11 | and without that, search will never work right | |
| 04:12 | new | ok |
| 04:12 | is there any way that i could learn this zebra ? | |
| 04:13 | rangi | yes, by lots of reading |
| 04:13 | libsysguy | and magic |
| 04:13 | * rangi | has to get back to work |
| 04:13 | libsysguy | jk new |
| 04:13 | new | lol :D |
| 04:13 | * libsysguy | has to go to sleep |
| 04:13 | libsysguy | its late here |
| 04:13 | new | ok tq guys |
| 04:13 | tq so much | |
| 04:13 | libsysguy | I'll talk to you guys later...good luck new |
| 04:13 | new | tq libsysguy |
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| 04:33 | cait | morning #koha |
| 04:44 | kmkale | hi cait |
| 04:45 | cait | hi kmkale |
| 04:49 | eythian++ | |
| 04:49 | eythian | what'd I do? |
| 04:49 | cait | comment again :) |
| 04:50 | eythian | ah right :) |
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| 06:23 | alex_away | hello ! |
| 06:24 | cait | hi alex_a |
| 06:24 | alex_a | hi cait |
| 06:35 | cait | bye |
| 06:42 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
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| 06:46 | magnuse | namaste kmkale |
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| 06:49 | alex_a | kia ora magnuse |
| 06:50 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
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| 07:01 | kmkale | hi magnus |
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| 07:25 | abdullatef | Hi there |
| 07:27 | can you help me? | |
| 07:27 | I have install the koha 3.4 on ubuntu | |
| 07:27 | ubuntu 11 | |
| 07:27 | previously I have problem with the zebra | |
| 07:28 | now I believed it is solve | |
| 07:29 | magnuse | so what's your problem, abdullatef? |
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| 07:37 | abdullatef | i want to confirm about the zebra |
| 07:37 | is it really running or not | |
| 07:37 | when i run #ps ax|grep zebra | |
| 07:38 | i got this 1120 ? S 0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha.koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 1121 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv - | |
| 07:38 | is my zebra running? | |
| 07:40 | magnuse | yeah, that looks promising |
| 07:40 | the best thing is probably to check that it actually works, though ;-) | |
| 07:40 | add a record and search for it | |
| 07:42 | abdullatef | ok let see |
| 07:52 | i have imported a record and try to search | |
| 07:52 | no result | |
| 07:52 | rangi | you have the cron job set up |
| 07:52 | because without that, zebra wont update its indexes | |
| 07:52 | abdullatef | how to check that? |
| 07:53 | mtj | abdullatef: look in yr 'zebraqueue' table |
| 07:53 | rangi | have you set up the cron job? |
| 07:53 | if you havent, it wont be set up :) | |
| 07:53 | mtj | $ select * from zebraqueue where done = 0; |
| 07:55 | abdullatef | i'll try that |
| 07:55 | the cron job first | |
| 07:55 | rangi | look in misc/cronjobs/ |
| 07:56 | for a file crontab.example | |
| 07:56 | mtj | abdullatef: yes, rangi is right :) |
| 07:56 | rangi | that will give you a hint how to do it |
| 07:56 | make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra | |
| 07:57 | which is koha (according to your paste above) :) | |
| 07:58 | abdullatef | i see |
| 07:58 | i just run # sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha | |
| 07:58 | and i got a file with : | |
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| 07:59 | abdullatef | # Environment variables used by Koha scripts KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml KOHAPATH=/usr/share/koha PERL5LIB=$KOHAPATH/lib # The cronjobs 1 * * * *koha$KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null |
| 07:59 | rangi | but formatted properly? |
| 07:59 | abdullatef | not sure, i'll check the crontab.example |
| 08:00 | rangi | that paste was all one line |
| 08:00 | it should be multiple lines | |
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| 08:00 | rangi | try pasting it into paste.koha-community.org |
| 08:00 | and should end with one blank line | |
| 08:01 | pastebot | "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "# sudo gedit /etc/cron.d/koha" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1746 |
| 08:03 | rangi | right try adding a newline at the end |
| 08:03 | and then it should be all good | |
| 08:04 | and if you still cant find anything, then do like mtj suggested | |
| 08:04 | and look in hte db | |
| 08:04 | oh | |
| 08:05 | i see whats wrong | |
| 08:05 | 1 * * * * | |
| 08:05 | thats only gonna run once an hour | |
| 08:05 | at 1 minute past the hour | |
| 08:06 | i would make that */5 * * * * | |
| 08:06 | so it runs every 5 minutes | |
| 08:07 | abdullatef | meaning that, the search can be run after 1 hour? |
| 08:08 | rangi | try a search now actually |
| 08:08 | the way you have it set up, yes, it will only reindex once an hour, at 1 min past the hour | |
| 08:09 | its now 20:08 nztime .. so in theory it should have run 7 mins ago | |
| 08:09 | so maybe your search is now working | |
| 08:12 | abdullatef | still no results found |
| 08:12 | i'll change the 1**** | |
| 08:12 | to */5 * * * * | |
| 08:13 | rangi | and make sure the file contains a new line at the end, hit return a few times, it cant hurt :) |
| 08:15 | abdullatef | :) |
| 08:15 | hit return means? | |
| 08:16 | rangi | put some newlines at the end of the file |
| 08:17 | abdullatef | oh, i'm sorry :) |
| 08:17 | rangi | (at least one) |
| 08:17 | abdullatef | return = enter :) |
| 08:20 | rangi: make sure the user you set up to run the crontab is the same user that is running zebra | |
| 08:20 | wahanui1 | i already had it that way, abdullatef. |
| 08:21 | abdullatef | i have open the crontab.example |
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| 08:32 | abdullatef | In the file a found: |
| 08:33 | rangi | i dont think you need to look at the crontab.example your file in cron.d looked fine except for the 1 and no newline at the end |
| 08:33 | pastebot | "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "crontab.example" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1747 |
| 08:34 | rangi | yep, you would have to put that in the koha users crontab |
| 08:34 | your one you pasted before is fine, except for the 1, and no newline at the end of the file | |
| 08:35 | abdullatef | is it same $KOHAPATH with $KOHA_CRON_PATH ? |
| 08:35 | rangi | assuming /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl exists |
| 08:35 | do a ls on that | |
| 08:36 | abdullatef | ok |
| 08:38 | where is this usr located? | |
| 08:39 | i'll paste the ls | |
| 08:39 | pastebot | "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "ls" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1748 |
| 08:41 | rangi | type |
| 08:41 | ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl | |
| 08:43 | pastebot | "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "ls /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1749 |
| 08:43 | mtj | hey... rangi is just being helpful for the ChoreWorz XP ! :/ |
| 08:43 | rangi | heh |
| 08:44 | abdullatef: ok then, so thats fine | |
| 08:44 | did you change to */5 | |
| 08:44 | and put a newline at the end | |
| 08:45 | * mtj | looks for some gold to mine.... |
| 08:46 | pastebot | "abdullatef" at 202.184.105.26 pasted "*/5 * * * *" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1750 |
| 08:46 | abdullatef | yes |
| 08:46 | rangi | right, try looking in the db now, in the zebraqueue table |
| 08:47 | and then ill have to go | |
| 08:47 | abdullatef | ok thanks |
| 08:48 | me too, i need to go | |
| 08:48 | are the chat being saved anywhere? | |
| 08:48 | rangi | yes |
| 08:49 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/ | |
| 08:49 | abdullatef | thanks |
| 08:49 | mtj | right, go get that xp, rangi |
| 08:49 | abdullatef | i really appreciate your help |
| 08:50 | magnuse | rangi++ |
| 08:50 | abdullatef | Bye for now |
| 08:51 | kf | have to go to - to the train station and we have rain, thunder and lightning outside :( |
| 08:52 | @karma kf | |
| 08:52 | huginn` | kf: Karma for "kf" has been increased 67 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 67. |
| 08:52 | kf | hm, no bad karma |
| 08:52 | mtj | kf: wear 2 hoods for heavy rain :) |
| 08:53 | kf | 2 hoods? |
| 08:53 | mtj | 1 jumper with hood + 1 jacket with hood |
| 08:54 | kf | ah |
| 08:55 | mtj | hood = Haube? |
| 08:55 | kf | Kapuze :) |
| 08:56 | but haube is not wrong, only not quite right for a jumper | |
| 08:56 | or a jacket | |
| 08:57 | mtj | ahh, haube is like a bonnet |
| 08:59 | kf | haube makes me think of something a woman in medievil times would wear |
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| 09:02 | magnuse | have a safe journey, kf! |
| 09:03 | kf | thx magnuse |
| 09:03 | I have an hour before I have to leave | |
| 09:03 | playing with the test installation now, making sure all examples work :) | |
| 09:04 | magnuse | good idea! ;-) |
| 09:10 | kf | hm |
| 09:10 | the zebra striping in a lot of tables seems to be broken in 3.4.3 | |
| 09:11 | magnuse | kf: do you have an uptodate version of TT? |
| 09:11 | kf | not sure |
| 09:11 | butI would think so | |
| 09:11 | hm | |
| 09:11 | magnuse | are you missing the striping on search results? |
| 09:11 | kf | yes |
| 09:11 | Template is 2.20 | |
| 09:12 | magnuse | on ubuntu or debian? |
| 09:12 | kf | ubuntu |
| 09:12 | lts version | |
| 09:13 | magnuse | i think i had a situation where the stripes were missing when i had the apt-get-able version of TT, and then i cpan'ed it and got the stripes back |
| 09:13 | kf | ok |
| 09:13 | magnuse | my production server has tt 2.22 |
| 09:14 | kf | I think for the presentation it will be ok |
| 09:42 | weather-- | |
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| 09:53 | magnuse | \o |
| 09:55 | druthb | Hi magnuse! |
| 09:55 | kf | hi druthb |
| 09:55 | and bye #koha | |
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| 10:17 | rangi | paul_p: you have changed the author on 4415 |
| 10:18 | im going to change it back to srdjan if you have no objections | |
| 10:19 | paul_p | yikes ! I made that probably when/by adding "Nicole signed off" manually... |
| 10:19 | no objection, of course ! | |
| 10:20 | * druthb | waves to rangi and paul_p |
| 10:23 | rangi | cool, fixed and pushed |
| 10:23 | hi druthb | |
| 10:23 | paul_p | hi druthb |
| 10:24 | rangi | there are hundred of libraries on 2.2 still paul |
| 10:25 | all around the world | |
| 10:25 | i know of a lot in pakistan and the philipines | |
| 10:26 | plus there are all the windows users | |
| 10:27 | * druthb | shudders |
| 10:27 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be manag... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b1eeb8e6dce2742f8> |
| 10:27 | * magnuse | too |
| 10:28 | magnuse | let's hope strawberry perl can help them move to 3.x |
| 10:29 | rangi | id rather they move to linux, but either way, they will need to migrate |
| 10:29 | magnuse | ah yes, of course |
| 10:30 | linux ftw! but it sounded like that might not be too much of an option in e.g. pakistan, strange as that might seem | |
| 10:30 | rangi | oh nope we are getting there |
| 10:30 | i got an email from farasat | |
| 10:30 | he has koha running under linux now | |
| 10:30 | magnuse | yay! |
| 10:30 | that's excellent news! | |
| 10:31 | rangi | yup, i have to reply and help him with one issue he has |
| 10:31 | but it is good news | |
| 10:31 | magnuse | woohoo |
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| 10:33 | sekjal_mobile | haha! victory! |
| 10:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 354 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 10:36 | * magnuse | looks quizzically at sekjal_mobile |
| 10:39 | rangi | connected via tor |
| 10:50 | magnuse | ah |
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| 11:15 | druthb | o/ |
| 11:18 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #354: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/354/ |
| 11:18 | srdjan: bug_4415: Copy parent contact details to child when adding Let child details be managed separately | |
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| 11:27 | Agent_Dani | Heya druthb! |
| 11:31 | druthb | hi, Agent_Dani! :) |
| 11:37 | jwagner | paul_p, online? |
| 11:37 | paul_p | yep (back from lunch just a few minuts ago) |
| 11:38 | jwagner | Couple of questions for you or anyone else (thought you might know the answers, though). First, is there a conversion tool to go from UNIMARC to MARC21 records? I seem to remember there is. |
| 11:39 | paul_p | jwagner, there is a XSLT at loc.gov iirc |
| 11:39 | jwagner | for display? Or actual conversion? |
| 11:40 | paul_p | I think for actual conversion |
| 11:40 | (but i haven't tested it, so I don't guarantee !) | |
| 11:40 | jwagner | OK, I'll take a look there. Second is from one of my French Canadian sites -- is there a MS Windows plugin or popup for Windows XP to let you type diacritics? They're having problems with original cataloging |
| 11:41 | I'm told in Windows 7 there is a popup alternative keyboard for languages, but I don't know about XP | |
| 11:42 | paul_p | well, jwagner = french keyboards already have diacritict, plus remember, i'm an OpenSource man, so no windows here ;-) |
| 11:42 | jwagner | Oh well. Anyone else? |
| 11:42 | paul_p | (my last MS-windows was windows 98. Really) |
| 11:43 | not that I know (and french keyboards have diacritics, so I don't know anyone using a tool for that) | |
| 11:44 | jwagner | OK, will keep looking. Thanks. |
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| 11:55 | Oak | hello #koha |
| 11:56 | druthb | hi Oak. |
| 11:56 | Oak | hello druthb :) |
| 11:57 | magnus_lunch | jwagner: seen bug 6536? "The conversion from UNIMARC to MARC21 currently only supports the most important MARC fields and should gradually be extended to cover remaining fields" http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Z3950_RFC |
| 11:57 | wahanui1 | I haven't seen 'bug', magnus_lunch |
| 11:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing |
| 11:57 | * magnus_lunch | wanders off again |
| 11:57 | jwagner | no, hadn't gotten there yet -- thanks magnus. Thought I remembered something somewhere.... |
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| 12:06 | jwagner | brb |
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| 12:25 | jwagner | !auit |
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| 12:38 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 12:43 | jwagner | paul_p, re my earlier question about alternative keyboards, this link got something working in Win XP -- FYI. http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/[…]inputoptions.html |
| 12:47 | magnuse | jwagner: this is perhaps not what you are thinking about? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]C_screen_keyboard |
| 12:48 | jwagner | no, but it's interesting. Thanks! |
| 12:48 | magnuse | np |
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| 13:27 | libsysguy | morning #Koha |
| 13:29 | druthb | hi, libsysguy! |
| 13:30 | libsysguy | druthb i saw where you were concerned about my poor data yesterday |
| 13:30 | druthb | your poor abused data... |
| 13:31 | libsysguy | i did abuse my data yesterday |
| 13:31 | i had to delete my master branch and move it to a new one | |
| 13:32 | druthb | ugh |
| 13:32 | libsysguy | i know...sirsi wouldn't let me just change the branch in there |
| 13:32 | :-\ | |
| 13:32 | i guess i should rephrase that...i didn't know how and neither did margo | |
| 13:33 | so i just changed in in koha | |
| 13:33 | druthb | yup..i frequently tell libraries *don't* do a bunch of cleanup and this and that in your current system--let me do it with mappings. |
| 13:34 | libsysguy | there was some problem we were having with using a map |
| 13:34 | but i forgot what it was | |
| 13:34 | i think it was patrons and bills | |
| 13:34 | maybe | |
| 13:48 | tcohen | importing holdings is the same as of 3.0.x ? The wiki seems incomplete on that (even 3.2 section is to be completed) |
| 13:56 | magnuse | tcohen: what wiki page are you looking at? |
| 13:57 | tcohen | magnuse: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
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| 13:57 | magnuse | guten tag cait |
| 13:57 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 13:58 | magnuse | tcohen: i don't think there were any changes from 3.0 to 3.2 |
| 13:59 | tcohen | and from 3.2 to 3.4 ? |
| 13:59 | magnuse | not any big changes there either |
| 13:59 | i use the table for 3.0 as my reference | |
| 13:59 | tcohen | as items where removed from marcxml/marc we should perhaps make explicit |
| 14:00 | that as of bulkmarcimport everything is as it used to | |
| 14:00 | t oavoid confusion | |
| 14:00 | magnuse | yeah, that would be a good idea |
| 14:02 | Oak | cait |
| 14:03 | cait | Oak |
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| 14:20 | tcohen | paul_p: ufff |
| 14:20 | paul_p | tcohen, ? |
| 14:21 | tcohen | paul_p: i'll try to steal some time from my bosses to rebase that code |
| 14:22 | paul_p | tcohen, if you prefer, I suggest you wait a little bit to rebase = there are many patches waiting QA that will have an updatedatabase. So you may have to do it more than once ! |
| 14:22 | * cait | waves |
| 14:22 | paul_p | hi cait |
| 14:22 | cait | internet_connection_on_trains-- |
| 14:22 | hi paul_p | |
| 14:22 | :) | |
| 14:22 | paul_p | cait = do you remember that less than 10 years ago having internet "everywhere" was even not a dream ! |
| 14:23 | cait | I know |
| 14:23 | I should be happy that I have a connection | |
| 14:23 | tcohen | paul_p: ok, remember that latest patches apply to new/enh/bug_5166 |
| 14:23 | cait | ... |
| 14:23 | tcohen | and that branch should be rebased to master |
| 14:23 | paul_p | mmm... tcohen maybe it's worth a comment on the patch, I missed that ! |
| 14:23 | s/comment on the patch/comment on the bug/ | |
| 14:24 | tcohen | but as this patches need to be rebased for sure, and thus need to be signedoff again maybe i'll rebase against master... |
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| 14:36 | oleonard | http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-08-02 |
| 14:38 | magnuse | oleonard: rda springs to mind... ;-) |
| 14:51 | oleonard | paul_p: Thanks for the kohastructure.sql correction |
| 14:53 | paul_p | your welcome |
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| 15:00 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6640] Template errors in defining default variable values causes information not to be displayed <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6640> |
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| 15:08 | miguel | Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode - España |
| 15:10 | slef | miguel: No-uno es aquí |
| 15:10 | that's wrong translation of no-one :-/ | |
| 15:10 | too literal | |
| 15:12 | miguel | no hay nadie |
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| 15:12 | tcohen | #startmeeting Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting |
| 15:12 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Aug 3 15:12:20 2011 UTC. The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:12 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | |
| 15:12 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting) | |
| 15:12 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, UNC, Cordoba, Argentina |
| 15:13 | miguel | #info Miguel Angel Calvo, Xercode, España |
| 15:13 | tcohen | alguien mas por ahi? hilongo? |
| 15:13 | slef | #info MJ Ray, software.coop, Somerset, England |
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| 15:14 | tcohen | bueno, me parece que somos pocos, no se que conviene que hagamos |
| 15:15 | jati | #info Juan Romay (Xercode) |
| 15:15 | tcohen | #topic Spanish speaking community mail list administration / move to official FQDN |
| 15:15 | Topic for #koha is now Spanish speaking community mail list administration / move to official FQDN (Meeting topic: Spanish speaking community Mail List IRC Meeting) | |
| 15:15 | slef | te hiero con malespañol |
| 15:16 | tcohen | No tenemos quorum me parece |
| 15:17 | slef | quorum = ? |
| 15:17 | paul_p | oleonard, if you have a few minuts, pls look at 5436, there's a comment/checking I'd like you to do. Thanks |
| 15:17 | tcohen | slef: it's latin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorum |
| 15:18 | I think we don't hace enough attendees | |
| 15:18 | to make a desition | |
| 15:18 | on moving the koha-es list to the koha-community.org domain and maintenance | |
| 15:19 | slef | tcohen: si, quanto? |
| 15:19 | tcohen | 3 es poco me parece |
| 15:20 | is there a hastag for abort meeting? | |
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| 15:21 | slef | try #info ABORTED then #endmeeting |
| 15:21 | or #info followed by your reason, then endmeeting | |
| 15:22 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ha-td3264811.html | |
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| 15:23 | tcohen | #info interested parties could not attend |
| 15:23 | #info meeting postponed | |
| 15:23 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:23 | Topic for #koha is now Next General IRC Meeting 7 September 2011 at 18.00 UTC. This is a nominations meeting. | |
| 15:23 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Aug 3 15:23:36 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:23 | Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-08-03-15.12.html | |
| 15:23 | Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]1-08-03-15.12.txt | |
| 15:23 | Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]03-15.12.log.html | |
| 15:26 | pabloab | :/ late, but I was present.. |
| 15:27 | slef | pabloab: better luck next time |
| 15:29 | cait | ks |
| 15:29 | what I really wanted to type was: Is the meeting over? | |
| 15:30 | tcohen | cait: yes |
| 15:31 | cait | ok |
| 15:34 | oleonard | paul_p: Shouldn't Bug 5436 not pass QA until the updatedatabase change is made? |
| 15:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements |
| 15:35 | paul_p | oleonard, usually, chris take care of this when applying the patch to master, because the final number depends on the order of applying patches. |
| 15:36 | For some other patches, i've added a small commit to propose a version number, but it will be chris that decide/pick the right number | |
| 15:37 | this is a limit of the version numbering we have (and it's a pain, definetly, but I don't have another proposition at hand... probably something to investigate for 4.0...) | |
| 15:37 | oleonard | Maybe I just don't understand how atomicupdate is used? I thought one must change updatedatabase.pl but put in XX for the version number. |
| 15:37 | paul_p | atomicupdate is anotherway to update the database, you just link the atomic update to the updatedatabase.pl at final merge. |
| 15:38 | it's handy to avoid git am conflicts because your updatedatabase was done after 017 and when it's tested, we are already at 024. In this case, even a XXX will result in a conflict | |
| 15:39 | (as it detects it should be after 017, and see something's wrong) | |
| 15:39 | I agree we should have a more formal/documented/unique way to submit DB update though ! | |
| 15:40 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 15:41 | oleonard | paul_p: I'm not complaining about the process, I just wasn't aware of this option. We need better documentation of our process, but no one has offered a better suggestion for changing the procedure. |
| 15:42 | tcohen | oleonard++ |
| 15:42 | paul_p | (this option is rarely used, that's why I specify it for chris/ian, to avoid a mistake) |
| 15:44 | tcohen, you can use this atomicupdate for your patch if you want too ! could avoid having conflicts later. | |
| 15:44 | tcohen | paul_p: exactly! |
| 15:44 | paul_p | (but pls: also explain on the bug how to apply all patches, or squash them (git rebase -i if you don't know how to squash) |
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| 15:45 | oleonard | squashing++ |
| 15:45 | tcohen | i'll squash them |
| 15:45 | paul_p | sometimes a follow-up is better, sometimes, it becomes a nightmare to check and squashing is better |
| 15:45 | tcohen | the problem with that bug is that there are patches against master |
| 15:46 | and against the topic branch | |
| 15:46 | i don't know how is that handled | |
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| 16:15 | gmcharlt | paul_p: out of curiosity, is the type of evaluation that qsos.org of any relevance in France (asking because they see to be primarily a French site, albeit with lots of English translations) |
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| 16:16 | oleonard | An elusive gmcharlt appears. |
| 16:17 | * jwagner | gets out the butterfly net |
| 16:18 | paul_p | gmcharlt, I never heard of qsos before now. Although, i've heard rumors of websites like this one (maybe this one) at a conference last year. So it've in the radar of some ppl, but not widely spread yet afaik |
| 16:18 | gmcharlt | http://www.qsos.org/?p=137 is why I'm asking, although obviously that particularly evaluation is a bit ... old |
| 16:19 | paul_p | http://www.qsos.org/?page_id=4 => 23 October 2006 |
| 16:19 | Listes de évaluations disponibles | |
| 16:19 | Liste des templates d’évaluations disponibles | |
| 16:19 | quite old too... | |
| 16:21 | I may have seen this sheet already. Something in my brain says that. But it was a long time ago... | |
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| 16:22 | paul_p | OK, it's time to leave for me ! busy but useful day. Now ... going to the beach (lucky man I am, I know ;-) ) |
| 16:29 | piware | Goodbye |
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| 17:19 | tcohen | paul_p |
| 17:19 | r u away already? | |
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| 17:42 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 17:55 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5166] Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166> |
| 18:07 | oleonard | I wonder if we need another patch status for "seeking information." |
| 18:07 | For instance, Bug 6124 has a good question in the comments, but no response. | |
| 18:07 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6124 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , In transferstoreceive.pl some biblios are empty. |
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| 18:10 | cait | hm |
| 18:10 | would not be as hard as failed qa | |
| 18:12 | needs feedback perhaps? | |
| 18:12 | oleonard | That's nicely concise |
| 18:14 | cait | and a bit shorter in the pull down |
| 18:18 | bg | hey cait - Quick question - were librarians able to search for patrons via email address before? |
| 18:22 | never mind got the answer - I think it was stripped | |
| 18:22 | oleonard | bg: Before what? |
| 18:22 | bg | 3.4 I guess |
| 18:23 | I can't search via email right now - and I only tried on a 3.4 box | |
| 18:24 | cait | bg - i don't know it |
| 18:24 | oleonard | We wrote a custom PHP script for that because we wished we had it |
| 18:24 | bg | it's all good |
| 18:24 | cait | what I miss is sending an empty search to get all borrowers |
| 18:24 | oleonard: I think you could do it nicely with a custom report and runtime parameter now | |
| 18:25 | oleonard | Not ideal. |
| 18:26 | cait | not sure what you want it to do exactly - ideal would be a possibility to filter/search an all fields :) |
| 18:27 | oleonard | Yeah, that's what I want. A patron advanced search interface. |
| 18:27 | * cait | nods |
| 18:28 | * oleonard | has found wishing for it to be ineffective for several years now |
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| 18:29 | cait | hm |
| 18:29 | programmig it would be an alternatie | |
| 18:29 | but lots of things to think about | |
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| 19:15 | rhcl_away | @seen snowman |
| 19:15 | huginn` | rhcl_away: I have not seen snowman. |
| 19:16 | rhcl_away | OK, well, if you do, give me a heads up. |
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| 19:30 | libsysguy | so I deleted a branch that had all my bibs/patrons attached to it after i moved them to a new branch and now when i do a search i just get a * fror libraries that links to the deleted branch |
| 19:30 | did i mess something up | |
| 19:33 | jcamins_away | cait1: around? |
| 19:34 | cait1 | I hope |
| 19:34 | jcamins | :) |
| 19:34 | cait1 | but I don't trust the internet connection |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:42 | druthb | hi, jcamins! |
| 19:42 | jcamins | Hi, druthb! |
| 19:42 | Still enjoying Bird-in-Hand? | |
| 19:42 | druthb | love it. |
| 19:42 | libsysguy | bird in hand? |
| 19:42 | cait1 | was going to ask that too |
| 19:43 | libsysguy | cait1 and I are curious campers lol |
| 19:43 | druthb | adjacent to the campground is a farm...all day yesterday, we watched a very serious-looking bearded man working--he had some ancient gasoline-powered implement on a wagon-like contraption, being pulled by two horses. |
| 19:46 | libsysguy: my daughter and I are camping near Bird-In-Hand, PA. | |
| 19:46 | In the Amish country | |
| 19:46 | libsysguy | OHHHH!!! |
| 19:46 | well that makes more sense than a bearded man | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | It's an absolutely beautiful area. |
| 19:47 | libsysguy | does anybody know how to import authorities |
| 19:47 | or is there a wiki on it | |
| 19:47 | i didn't even look | |
| 19:48 | druthb | it is. When the Amish and Mennonite people settled here, they felt that God had given them the Perfect Place for their work and lifestyle--and I'm inclined to agree with them on that. It's great land here. |
| 19:48 | cait1 | libsysguy: same way you import biblios (from commandline) using -a |
| 19:48 | libsysguy | ohh |
| 19:48 | * libsysguy | is retarded |
| 19:48 | cait1 | check the ---h for bulkmarcimport :) |
| 19:48 | druthb | cait++ |
| 19:49 | libsysguy | cait1++ |
| 19:49 | druthb | libsysguy++ #smart enough to ask questions! |
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| 19:49 | cait1 | xp! |
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| 19:49 | * jcamins | thinks about warning libsysguy about the fact that the authorities may not do what he's expecting, and then stops before he disheartens the poor fellow. |
| 19:50 | jcamins | Do you want Jared's Standard Disclaimer Regarding LCSH-style Authorities in Koha (TM)? |
| 19:50 | * libsysguy | wonders why jcamins is always bringing him down |
| 19:50 | libsysguy | just like the man lol |
| 19:50 | umm sure | |
| 19:50 | rangi | morning |
| 19:50 | jcamins | libsysguy: I do it for everyone, not just you. |
| 19:50 | ;) | |
| 19:51 | druthb | hi rangi |
| 19:51 | libsysguy | haha jcamins hi rangi |
| 19:51 | cait1 | You level up! You are now a Level 3 Enchanter! |
| 19:51 | haha | |
| 19:51 | jcamins | libsysguy: basically, the point where you're going to run into problems is that your authorities are not going to be linked in any way to your bib records, and the link_authorities_to_biblios script doesn't work. |
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| 19:51 | libsysguy | how ironic |
| 19:52 | cait1 | hi rangi |
| 19:52 | libsysguy | well...i think our authorities are all out of date anyway |
| 19:52 | from what i understand | |
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| 19:52 | libsysguy | (and i have no idea what authorities are...i just know it costs a lot of money to get them done) |
| 19:52 | jcamins | So the authorities can be used to ensure that a heading has already been authorized when cataloging, but they will not really provide a usable access point into the catalog. |
| 19:52 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 19:52 | cait1 | hm |
| 19:52 | libsysguy | ill pass that along |
| 19:53 | cait1 | you could migrate an old authorities number from your current system |
| 19:53 | jcamins | At least for right now. |
| 19:53 | cait1: but that only helps if the authority numbers are embedded in the bib records. | |
| 19:53 | cait1 | right |
| 19:53 | * libsysguy | feels like there is about to be librarian talk about to happen |
| 19:54 | cait1 | and you are right about the access point |
| 19:54 | would be great if we could get that working | |
| 19:54 | jcamins | cait1: I agree. |
| 19:54 | cait1 | would dom help that problem? |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 19:55 | There would also need to be a display customization, but indexing that doesn't make one weep is a good first step. | |
| 19:56 | I think ByWater is working on adding authority searching in the OPAC. "Did you mean 'Smith, John, 1900-1981'?" | |
| 19:56 | cait1 | hm yes |
| 19:56 | * libsysguy | has to run |
| 19:57 | libsysguy left #koha | |
| 19:57 | cait1 | what I would like to see is aphabetic registers and a way to find a title searching for one form of the name that was written under a pseudonym/other name form |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Can I get xp for scaring someone off of IRC? :\ |
| 19:57 | cait1 | I fear not |
| 19:57 | but you helped me | |
| 19:58 | jcamins | Aww. Darn. |
| 19:58 | Yay! | |
| 19:58 | Wait, I did? | |
| 19:58 | cait1 | sure |
| 19:59 | I have t send more patches, I want a chocolate fish | |
| 20:00 | rangi | how did the presentation go? |
| 20:01 | cait1 | it's tomorro |
| 20:01 | w | |
| 20:02 | took half a day to get here - 6hours on train | |
| 20:02 | rangi | ahhh |
| 20:02 | * rangi | is doing rfp again today :( |
| 20:03 | bg | NateC? |
| 20:03 | wahanui1 | I LIKE SPACE! |
| 20:03 | * cait1 | sends rangi cookies |
| 20:04 | druthb | talljoy? |
| 20:04 | wahanui1 | I CRUNCH DATA |
| 20:04 | NateC | rangi: I feel you pain man |
| 20:04 | cait1 | druthb? |
| 20:04 | druthb | muhahaha |
| 20:04 | cait1 | hm |
| 20:04 | poor wahanui... he got geblitzdingst | |
| 20:04 | rangi | RFP : you're doing it wrong! !!! |
| 20:05 | druthb | geblitzdingst? |
| 20:06 | jcamins | jcamins? |
| 20:06 | wahanui1 | you are supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution, but short of a set of three sysprefs (ShelfBrowserUsesLocation, ShelfBrowserUsesCcode, and ShelfBrowserUsesHomeBranch), I don't really have any ideas. or awesome fixing broken email notifications |
| 20:06 | druthb | mercy |
| 20:06 | cait1 | flashy-thinged |
| 20:06 | (mib) | |
| 20:07 | rangi | bg? |
| 20:07 | wahanui1 | I LIKE BREAKFAST BURRITOS AND I LOVE BASEBALL |
| 20:07 | cait1 | rangi? |
| 20:07 | wahanui1 | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 20:07 | druthb | lol |
| 20:07 | NateC | rangi: yep, RFP = Really Fu@%ed Paper |
| 20:08 | druthb | back in a few.... |
| 20:09 | rangi | my stop bbiab |
| 20:15 | back | |
| 20:15 | and before i forget | |
| 20:15 | a plug for one of the projects one of the catalyst staff works on | |
| 20:15 | http://openra.res0l.net/ | |
| 20:17 | cait1 | a plug? |
| 20:17 | jcamins | A plug? |
| 20:17 | A plug! | |
| 20:17 | A plug! | |
| 20:17 | rangi | http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/plug |
| 20:18 | jcamins | Everybody ought to have a plug... |
| 20:18 | rhcl_away | it's a thing to catch fish with |
| 20:18 | a fishing lure | |
| 20:18 | * jcamins | gives up. |
| 20:18 | rangi | hmm that doesnt have the meaning thats used here |
| 20:18 | to plug something can be used to mean, to advertise | |
| 20:19 | n. | |
| 20:19 | a free advertisement or a commercial boost from someone for a product. (See also plugola.) : I managed to get a plug on the Mike Michael show. | |
| 20:19 | tv. | |
| 20:19 | to give an advertisement or commercial boost for something without having to pay for it. : I want to get on that TV program and plug my new book. | |
| 20:20 | :) | |
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| 20:30 | rhcl_away | http://farm3.static.flickr.com[…]80_437b19a40f.jpg |
| 20:31 | cait1 | that thing looks mean |
| 20:31 | rhcl_away | yea, probably scared the fish away rather than caught them |
| 20:32 | we're surrounded by a power outage, although we still have el-. http://www.kcpl.com/kcmaps/frameset_menus.htm Should I close down all the computers, do you think? And go home? | |
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| 20:35 | rangi | so |
| 20:36 | cait1 | so? |
| 20:36 | wahanui1 | so is, like, there an expirationdate and an expiredate |
| 20:36 | rangi | i have a bunch of post graduate level students in australia, what things could they help out with in koha |
| 20:36 | jcamins | What are they studying? |
| 20:37 | rhcl_away | abstract the db |
| 20:37 | rangi | lis |
| 20:37 | rhcl_away | oh, disregard |
| 20:37 | cait1 | hm |
| 20:38 | rangi | http://katedavis.info/ <-- her students |
| 20:38 | cait1 | documentation? |
| 20:38 | wahanui1 | documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 20:38 | cait1 | usability testing? |
| 20:38 | rangi | oh thats a good idea |
| 20:38 | cait1 | ideas for new innovative features? |
| 20:38 | test plans? | |
| 20:40 | rangi | cool that gives me ideas thanks |
| 20:41 | cait1 | k |
| 20:41 | can I get xp now? | |
| 20:41 | * cait1 | hides |
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| 20:51 | rhcl_away | We hired a new bookstore manager two days ago, and the Friends bought her a nice new 17" notebook computer w/ Win 7. I worked and worked trying to get the D&# thing connected to the wireless network.... |
| 20:51 | finally gave up and installed Linux Mint 11. | |
| 20:51 | It works. | |
| 20:59 | cait1 | hehe |
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| 21:25 | libsysguy | rangi: what is the link to your blog |
| 21:25 | I thought i saw something on there the other day about serials in 3.6 | |
| 21:26 | rangi | blog.bigballofwax.co.nz |
| 21:27 | cait1 | serials in 3.6? |
| 21:27 | rangi | i dont think i wrote anything about that |
| 21:27 | jcamins | Aww. |
| 21:27 | libsysguy | so no serials work :'( |
| 21:28 | cait1 | we already have serials? |
| 21:28 | what are you missing? | |
| 21:28 | libsysguy | holdings? |
| 21:28 | cait1 | and don't look so sad... |
| 21:28 | holdings? | |
| 21:28 | libsysguy | im just going off an email I got from our acquisitions librarian |
| 21:29 | * libsysguy | is about to enter a discussion I don't know much about |
| 21:29 | jcamins | libsysguy: as far as I know, MFHD has not been sponsored by anyone. |
| 21:29 | libsysguy | MFHD? |
| 21:29 | wahanui1 | somebody said MFHD was MARC Format for Holdings Data |
| 21:29 | libsysguy | ohh |
| 21:29 | cait1 | wahanui1 botsnack cookie |
| 21:29 | wahanui1 | thanks cait1 :) |
| 21:29 | jcamins | That's what your acquisitions librarian wants. |
| 21:29 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 21:42 | is anybody using ldap auth on master? | |
| 21:46 | jcamins | libsysguy: a bunch of people are. sekjal would be able to tell you about it. |
| 21:49 | libsysguy | well i just wanted to see if anybody else was getting an error |
| 21:50 | jcamins | I don't know anything about it, sorry. |
| 21:51 | libsysguy | its cool jcamins...ill stalk sekjal |
| 21:52 | rhcl_away | libsysguy, did you resolve your exproxy questions? |
| 21:53 | * libsysguy | tries to remember ezproxy questions |
| 21:53 | libsysguy | was it perhaps getting ezproxy to work with shib |
| 21:53 | rhcl_away | yea, shibboleth related, late last week |
| 21:54 | libsysguy | yes i did...kind of...turns out our university doesn't use shib as an SSO...silly i know |
| 21:56 | * Agent_Dani | fondly remembers ezproxy. |
| 21:56 | jcamins | "Fondly"? |
| 21:59 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]852f48ba5b5bc2bb7> / 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e19905e8f1cf34a5e> / Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing... <http:// |
| 22:02 | rangi | libsysguy: ive got a new one for ya |
| 22:03 | http://soundcloud.com/oopartmusic/chad-vader | |
| 22:04 | libsysguy | rangi you have a true programmers taste in music |
| 22:04 | * libsysguy | approves |
| 22:04 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 355 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:05 | rangi | who cant approve of using darth vaders voice for your incar navigation |
| 22:08 | Agent_Dani | jcamins: It was fairly trouble-free in my experience, far more so than a lot of other software I was dealing with in that job. |
| 22:09 | jcamins | Go figure. |
| 22:09 | libsysguy | well heck...its got ez right in the name |
| 22:13 | jcamins | libsysguy: so does fez, and have you ever seen anyone pull off one of those with panache? |
| 22:15 | libsysguy | touche` jcamins |
| 22:15 | hey jcamins...do you think you could take a peed at this for me http://i.imgur.com/T3uC3.png | |
| 22:15 | this is what the serials librarian sent me | |
| 22:16 | rangi | ah they just want a bunch of display changes |
| 22:17 | libsysguy | is that it? |
| 22:17 | rangi | yep |
| 22:17 | its all template changes | |
| 22:17 | libsysguy | cool...css and js ftw |
| 22:17 | i just wanted to verify that is all it was | |
| 22:18 | rangi | well that analytics one, could be that there isnt a link .. but the rest is all display |
| 22:18 | jcamins | UT Tyler doesn't use analytics, so you can just hide it. |
| 22:19 | rangi | easy peasy |
| 22:19 | libsysguy | sweet |
| 22:19 | nothing new | |
| 22:20 | Agent_Dani | libsysguy: Heh! The "ez" claim worried me at first, but compared to dealing with a lot of the stuff from HP, Oracle, etc... |
| 22:20 | libsysguy | there is nothing ever eazy from Oracle |
| 22:21 | * libsysguy | hates Oracle |
| 22:21 | libsysguy | **for what they did to JAVA |
| 22:21 | rangi | and solaris |
| 22:21 | and mysql | |
| 22:21 | and openoffice | |
| 22:21 | Agent_Dani | I can't say I'm a fan either. A part of my motivation for leaving that job was that I was basically becoming the dump-on person for Oracle DBA tasks that the DBAs didn't want to do. |
| 22:21 | rangi | and basic human decency |
| 22:22 | chilts | hmmm ... and for doing Oracle too! |
| 22:22 | rangi | oh yeah and oracle |
| 22:22 | chilts | :) |
| 22:22 | rangi | what a sack of crap that is |
| 22:22 | oh look its crashed again | |
| 22:22 | chilts | indeed, glad I don't touch it these days |
| 22:22 | libsysguy | ESPECIALLY Oracle |
| 22:23 | Agent_Dani | I only deal with stuff that connects to Oracle DBs; I don't have to actually deal with the DB anymore. |
| 22:23 | mtj | i have a good friend working at oracle-nz |
| 22:24 | chilts | my friend used to work for acompany that got taken over by Oracle ... first thing they did was give them pay rises |
| 22:24 | 2nd thing they did was forced them to use their crappy internal tools | |
| 22:24 | I figure it was a giving with one hand and a taking with the other | |
| 22:24 | mtj | it sounds like epic wtf's on a daily basis there :/ |
| 22:24 | Agent_Dani | libsysguy: I will admit that after the early work in '99-early 2000, my involvement with ezproxy was systems side. I no longer dealt with configuring databases within it. |
| 22:26 | libsysguy | ahh...well all i deal with is setting it up on the system |
| 22:26 | mtj | afaik, all phbs at oracle are either playing golf, or updating their facebook |
| 22:27 | libsysguy | sounds about right mjt |
| 22:28 | Agent_Dani | The worst task I had to do with it was setup auth with DRA Web2, which was available in a then-brand-spanking-new beta release of EZP. |
| 22:28 | mtj | chilts: 3rd thing was force staff to sign 'all-your-work-belong-to-us' NDAs - til the staff complained |
| 22:30 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5602: Changes to account for the version update. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c2293b3bf062f4152> / bug 5602: Rewriting the package making script Now it is a perl script. Various pdebui... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9e3e8c9d7a51835ce> / Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= |
| 22:30 | chilts | mtj: heh, yeah, that's probably it |
| 22:32 | rangi | chilts: wheres that place you can get a desk for a day? |
| 22:32 | chilts | there are two in Welly ... |
| 22:32 | * chilts | looks |
| 22:33 | chilts | http://bizdojo.com/ and ... |
| 22:33 | * chilts | is still looking |
| 22:37 | chilts | http://www.altspace.co.nz/ |
| 22:37 | phew, found it | |
| 22:37 | I think you can have them for a day but as part of a 4 or 5 days a month contract | |
| 22:37 | so I don't think you can just turn up - I asked BizDojo about that but they didn't get back to me | |
| 22:37 | rangi | ahh right |
| 22:38 | wasnt there somewhere you were going occasionally? | |
| 22:38 | chilts | heh, the library :) |
| 22:38 | but no, I was _thinking_ about BozDojo but it's quite expensive I feel | |
| 22:38 | esp. since I've got mobile broadband | |
| 22:39 | rangi | hmm some company |
| 22:39 | i remember you telling me at miyabi | |
| 22:39 | chilts | ah ... you're thinking of Jelly at ... |
| 22:39 | erm | |
| 22:39 | rangi | thats it |
| 22:39 | chilts | Boost |
| 22:39 | http://www.boost.co.nz/blog/de[…]working-for-free/ | |
| 22:39 | rangi | ta |
| 22:40 | chilts | np |
| 22:40 | it's not really a desk, more like a couch, coffee and wifi | |
| 22:40 | though there are a few tables you can sit at | |
| 22:44 | mtj | oooh, boost++ |
| 22:44 | chilts | mason have you been before? I went a few times but found it didn't have that much atmosphere |
| 22:44 | mtj | no, me never... |
| 22:45 | i aint fussy tho, re: atmosfere | |
| 22:46 | i often were big headfones so i dont get distracted, so less is often better for me | |
| 22:46 | chilts | I need to bring my headphones in to my current work |
| 22:47 | mtj | ... listening to soothing whale/dolphin muzak, while i werk |
| 22:48 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #355: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/355/ |
| 22:48 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 4959 (Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket) | |
| 22:48 | * m.de.rooy: 4959: Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. | |
| 22:48 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version | |
| 22:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4959 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Language inconsistencies on basket groups; skip confirmation when closing basket. |
| 22:48 | mtj | i'm finishing off the lorien barcode thing |
| 22:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 356 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:48 | mtj | oops, wrong window.. :/ |
| 22:50 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 26 for job Koha_3.4.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:54 | bg | it feels hot here |
| 22:54 | @wunder 93109 | |
| 22:54 | huginn` | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.4°C (3:53 PM PDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:54 | bg | yup 72 |
| 22:54 | *sigh* | |
| 22:55 | rangi | heh |
| 22:55 | libsysguy left #koha | |
| 22:59 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 22:59 | huginn` | jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 22.0°C (6:55 PM EDT on August 03, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Steady). |
| 22:59 | jcamins | \o/ |
| 22:59 | It's less hot here, in August, than in Santa Barbara. | |
| 23:01 | Unfortunately, it's pouring, and there is heat radiating off the walls. | |
| 23:01 | (so I can't really enjoy it) | |
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