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| 00:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #282: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/282/ |
| 00:09 | * ruth: Bug 6467: Add shelving location to checkin screen | |
| 00:09 | * nengard: Bug 5268: Change all occurances of 'debar' to 'restrict' | |
| 00:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6467 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Add shelving location to checkin results screen |
| 00:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5268 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Language Issue: Debarred | |
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| 00:43 | rangi | pianohacker++ #another sign off |
| 00:44 | pianohacker | Piece by piece. I am getting paid for it, which makes wading through other people's code a bit more pleasant :) |
| 00:46 | rangi | *nod* |
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| 00:48 | pianohacker1 | wireless crapping out, logging out so as not spam the channel |
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| 01:20 | druthb | o/ |
| 01:20 | bg | hi ruth |
| 01:20 | druthb | hi, brendan. :) |
| 01:21 | bg++ #BEST BOSS EVAR | |
| 01:21 | Six months now; I can speak with Authority. | |
| 01:21 | rangi | wb druthb |
| 01:21 | Space_Librarian | druthb: sounds like an awesome boss. |
| 01:22 | bg | heh heya Space_Librarian |
| 01:22 | Space_Librarian | hey Brendan |
| 01:23 | druthb | he is, Shelley. He insists otherwise, of course. |
| 01:23 | Space_Librarian | humility is a good thing. ;) |
| 01:24 | * mtj | waves |
| 01:24 | rangi | heya mtj |
| 01:25 | druthb | hi, mtj! :) |
| 01:25 | mtj | heya, spoke to theo-soc last nite... |
| 01:25 | Space_Librarian | hey mtj |
| 01:25 | rangi | ah yeah, i told them to give you a call |
| 01:26 | shes coming to the koha users group meeting | |
| 01:26 | speaking of which, you are coming right mtj? :) | |
| 01:33 | mtj | ah, yes - i planned too |
| 01:33 | * mtj | looks at calendar |
| 01:34 | rangi | sweet, you should fill in the registration form |
| 01:34 | so we can get numbers for food | |
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| 02:15 | mtj | roger, will do |
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| 02:33 | hdl | hi there |
| 02:33 | wahanui | what's up, hdl |
| 02:34 | rangi | wow, working late hdl |
| 03:00 | hdl | waking up early. |
| 03:02 | rangi | ahhh |
| 03:02 | very early, its 4am? | |
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| 03:10 | hdl | now it is 5 |
| 03:12 | rangi | ahh we are only 10 hours in front at the moment |
| 03:26 | hdl: if you are awake enough :) do you know much about bug 5436? | |
| 03:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements |
| 03:28 | hdl | Well I think I know yes... |
| 03:28 | since we sent that. | |
| 03:30 | rangi | yep, guillaume seemed to find a problem with it |
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| 03:30 | rangi | once its sorted i think we can sign off 5872 which would be great ;) |
| 03:31 | hdl | Is there a branch I could jump to ? |
| 03:31 | Irma | Hi all |
| 03:31 | rangi | i can push it up on a branch if you like |
| 03:31 | 2 secs | |
| 03:32 | Space_Librarian | Hey Irma |
| 03:32 | Irma | bonjour space_librarian :-) |
| 03:32 | Space_Librarian | bonjour :) |
| 03:33 | Irma | Looking forward to knitting a wrap for the world soon? |
| 03:33 | Space_Librarian | Indeed I am. :) |
| 03:33 | rangi | ill reformat it for template toolkit and push it up for you, will take me about 20 mins, ill let you know when its ready |
| 03:33 | Irma | 10 degrees in Sydney right now ... a bit chilly for us ... |
| 03:34 | bring your wool jumpers | |
| 03:34 | Space_Librarian | O.o Heavens, that *is* chilly for Sydney. |
| 03:34 | Mind you, I'm used to Canberra's dry cold. | |
| 03:34 | Irma | ;-) |
| 03:34 | I have a quick question re Koha 3.4. | |
| 03:35 | NO_LIBRARY_SET (Set) | kohaadmin (Log Out) | [ ? ] | |
| 03:35 | I don't see the (Set) in Kopha 3.4. | |
| 03:35 | Is that a known bug? | |
| 03:36 | what I pasted at 13:39:59 comes from a Koha 3.2. installation | |
| 03:37 | rangi | not that im aware of |
| 03:37 | Irma | ah ... thanks rangi |
| 03:38 | a system preference? | |
| 03:38 | wahanui | a system preference is ReservesMaxPickUpDelay |
| 03:38 | Irma | ah ... checking this out ... 2 seconds pls |
| 03:39 | rangi | im not saying it doesnt happen, just its not known to happen ;) |
| 03:40 | Irma | no sys preference for No_Library_Set |
| 03:42 | rangi | have you tried logging in as a real user |
| 03:42 | you should only login as kohaadmin long enough to set up a real user | |
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| 03:59 | rangi | hdl: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iting_qa/bug_5436 |
| 04:00 | hdl | ok thanks will test that soon |
| 04:00 | rangi | cool thank you |
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| 04:00 | rangi | guillaime said something about it renewing a patron? but im not sure how |
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| 04:40 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: BUG6067 When Add Duplicate changing framework would loose data <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]332f374aa2bba603e> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5868' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fd21ba543b74eb334> / Bug 5868 follow-up: missing subfields in subject index <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ |
| 04:42 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 283 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 04:55 | francharb | hi everyone |
| 04:55 | rangi | hi francharb |
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| 05:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #283: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/283/ |
| 05:24 | * jcamins: Bug 5868 follow-up: missing subfields in subject index | |
| 05:24 | * fridolyn.somers: BUG6067 When Add Duplicate changing framework would loose data | |
| 05:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5868 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Subject indexes do not search most 6xx fields |
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| 06:04 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 06:10 | rangi | hi Ropuch |
| 06:22 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 06:27 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
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| 06:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:33 | wahanui | what's up, reiveune |
| 06:34 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 06:34 | reiveune | hi magnuse |
| 06:38 | rangi | hi magnuse and reiveune |
| 06:38 | magnuse | ata marie rangi |
| 06:38 | reiveune | hi rangi |
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| 06:40 | clrh | hi |
| 06:40 | magnuse | bonjour clrh |
| 06:52 | alex_a | hello magnuse rangi and all |
| 06:52 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
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| 06:56 | hdl | hi all |
| 06:58 | magnuse | bonjour hdl |
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| 07:00 | julian | hello #koha |
| 07:00 | magnuse | bonjour julian |
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| 07:07 | cait | good morning from berlin! :) |
| 07:07 | konferenzwlan leider furchtbar langsam | |
| 07:08 | Oak | thank you thank you |
| 07:08 | good morning to you too cait :) | |
| 07:08 | cait | ah, wrong window :) |
| 07:08 | it's too early | |
| 07:08 | hi Oak :) | |
| 07:08 | Oak | good mood huh? |
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| 07:09 | cait | too many smileys? |
| 07:09 | Oak | nah :) |
| 07:09 | just enought | |
| 07:10 | cait | yeah, had a good breakfast and have some time |
| 07:10 | Oak | enough |
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| 07:10 | Oak | that's good. |
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| 07:13 | aaaa | How to modify the login screen of koha |
| 07:13 | ? | |
| 07:13 | the GUI part | |
| 07:13 | cait | aaaa: you can use css and jquery I think |
| 07:13 | intranetuserjs and intranetusercss in the sysprfs | |
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| 07:13 | cait | but depends on what you want to do |
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| 07:16 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 07:16 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
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| 07:23 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris ;) |
| 07:23 | heya collum | |
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| 07:30 | rangi | back, kids asleep |
| 07:30 | Oak | peace now? |
| 07:31 | :) | |
| 07:32 | rangi | yep |
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| 07:34 | cait | hi rangi |
| 07:36 | rangi | heya cait |
| 07:36 | magnuse | rangi++ # for signing off patches |
| 07:36 | matts_away is now known as matts | |
| 07:36 | cait | rangi++ |
| 07:36 | magnuse | maybe we should declare a global signing off day before summer? |
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| 07:37 | rangi | well thats not until october |
| 07:37 | so lots of time ;) | |
| 07:37 | but yes | |
| 07:37 | Oak | rangi++ |
| 07:37 | magnuse | would be good if the number was a bit lower... |
| 07:38 | rangi | a global sign off days, 24 hours in whatever timezone you are in, to try and get as many signed off as possible |
| 07:38 | cait | what is before october? |
| 07:38 | rangi | winter cait :) |
| 07:38 | cait | hmpf |
| 07:38 | :) | |
| 07:38 | * cait | is still a bit sleepy |
| 07:38 | magnuse | ah, sorry for northern-hemispere-centricity rangi ;-) |
| 07:39 | rangi | hehe im used to it :) |
| 07:39 | magnuse | "in june" might have been better |
| 07:39 | rangi | how about next friday, 17th |
| 07:39 | magnuse | that would be perfect for me! |
| 07:40 | rangi | ill leave it for you to propose it on the lists then ;) |
| 07:40 | magnuse | hehe, thought so! |
| 07:40 | ;-) | |
| 07:40 | rangi | there are quite a few patches i reformatted, so cant sign off on |
| 07:40 | magnuse | are there any cool ways we could visualize the work done? to make it more inspiring? |
| 07:40 | rangi | i can do something |
| 07:40 | cait | oh :( |
| 07:40 | rangi | because i can query the db |
| 07:40 | cait | travelling all day on friday |
| 07:41 | rangi | and make funky graphs |
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| 07:41 | cait | real time would be good |
| 07:41 | perhaps a page on the wiki | |
| 07:42 | rangi | how about a realtime count |
| 07:42 | that moves from red if over 50 | |
| 07:42 | orange if under 50 over 20 | |
| 07:42 | magnuse | yeah, we might have a page on the wiki where people can say what they are testing, so we are not all testing the same thing? |
| 07:42 | rangi | and green if under 20 |
| 07:42 | magnuse | sounds cool! |
| 07:42 | rangi | that sounds like a good idea too |
| 07:42 | claim a bug | |
| 07:43 | magnuse | yup |
| 07:43 | Oak | like... 'that's my bug, go find your own bug' |
| 07:43 | magnuse | cait: you can test patches on the train! |
| 07:43 | cait | yep |
| 07:43 | with that wobbly internet connection? :( | |
| 07:43 | I had a hard time to stay on irc | |
| 07:44 | downloading files and looking at twitter was too much | |
| 07:44 | magnuse | cait: claim a couple of bugs before you set off, download the patches and test offline |
| 07:45 | cait | could try that |
| 07:45 | miguel | hello all |
| 07:45 | magnuse | it's possible to get graphs from bugzilla too: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]substring&emailty |
| 07:45 | pe2=substring&emailtype3=substring&field0-0-0=cf_patch_status&keywords=&keywords_type=allwords&longdesc=&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&query_format=report-graph&resolution=---&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&type0-0-0=notequals&value0-0-0=---&x_axis_field=&y_axis_field=cf_patch_status&z_axis_field=&format=bar&ctype=png&action=plot&width=600&height=350 | |
| 07:45 | oops | |
| 07:45 | rangi | yes |
| 07:45 | but the url is horrid :) | |
| 07:46 | magnuse | a little bit, yes ;-) |
| 07:46 | rangi | what id like is a little status button |
| 07:46 | on the get-involved page | |
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| 07:46 | rangi | that changes colour ;) |
| 07:46 | magnuse | ohh, cool! |
| 07:46 | rangi | but i can do lots of reports as the day goes on |
| 07:47 | and do a leaderboard :) | |
| 07:47 | magnuse | showing who has signed off the most? |
| 07:48 | cait | what about monday next week? |
| 07:48 | ... but I see that friday makes sense probably | |
| 07:48 | magnuse | 13th? that's a holiday here... |
| 07:49 | cait | right, here too |
| 07:49 | bad suggestion | |
| 07:49 | rangi | yeah, mondays are always busy too |
| 07:49 | cait | and you were talking about next friday 17th - not travelling then, but have a gues |
| 07:49 | t | |
| 07:49 | so even worse | |
| 07:49 | hmpf | |
| 07:50 | rangi | hehe, you can do it nz time cait |
| 07:50 | which is the 16th | |
| 07:50 | cait | she will keep me up |
| 07:50 | Oak | :) |
| 07:50 | cait | and arrives on thursday |
| 07:50 | we will be at the zoo on friday | |
| 07:50 | it's not about me | |
| 07:50 | rangi | you have already done lots anyway |
| 07:50 | magnuse | cancel the zoo and teach her to help you sign off patches ;-) |
| 07:51 | cait | it's ok |
| 07:51 | rangi | if it works |
| 07:51 | we could do one every month | |
| 07:52 | magnuse | yeah, that would be cool |
| 07:53 | so we have landed on the 17th? | |
| 07:53 | i can do a wiki page and send an email | |
| 07:53 | just to the devel-list, right? | |
| 07:54 | rangi | why not to the main one too |
| 07:54 | we might get some new volunteers ;) | |
| 07:54 | magnuse | sure |
| 07:55 | cait | last try, what about wednesday? |
| 07:55 | magnuse | fine with me |
| 07:55 | cait | 15... nice.. middle of month... |
| 07:55 | rangi | the only thing is that is pretty close, might be hard for people to organise |
| 07:55 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:56 | rangi | but it would be ok by me |
| 07:57 | cait | ok, now I feel like pushing you around. Set a date and I will try to find that link I was looking for |
| 07:57 | rangi | 15 is fine by me |
| 07:58 | magnuse | ok, that's settled then? |
| 07:58 | rangi | any opinions from france? :) |
| 07:59 | cait | silence |
| 07:59 | Oak | who is from france? |
| 07:59 | cait | Oak: 15th ok for you? |
| 08:00 | rangi | about 10 people here :) |
| 08:00 | Oak | yes! |
| 08:00 | ah, cool | |
| 08:00 | rangi | i suspect they are all busy eating pain au chocolat |
| 08:00 | :-) | |
| 08:00 | magnuse | hehe |
| 08:00 | Oak | that can't be possible |
| 08:00 | :D | |
| 08:00 | rangi | or creme brulee |
| 08:00 | * rangi | wants to visit france again |
| 08:01 | * magnuse | too |
| 08:01 | * cait | too |
| 08:01 | Oak | ok, me too then |
| 08:02 | cait | or yummy pizza |
| 08:02 | Oak | and Italy |
| 08:03 | paul_p | well, today, no creme brulee or pain au chocolat |
| 08:03 | but it seems kim made some tiramisu | |
| 08:04 | magnuse | ooh |
| 08:04 | paul_p | (not really french, but really good though :D ) |
| 08:04 | rangi | :) |
| 08:04 | paul_p | (kim = our sales assistant) |
| 08:04 | magnuse | tiramisu++ |
| 08:04 | cait | kim++ |
| 08:04 | magnuse | kim++ |
| 08:04 | paul_p | what is very nice with being 15 at BibLibre, is that we really often have someone coming with some good things |
| 08:05 | some cherries from the garden last week | |
| 08:05 | rangi | ohh cherries |
| 08:05 | paul_p | a "clafouti aux cerises" last week too |
| 08:05 | rangi | in nz, we have cherries for christmas |
| 08:07 | ok, i reckon 15 it is magnuse | |
| 08:07 | magnuse | rangi: consider it done ;-) |
| 08:08 | * cait | sends lots of cookies and chocolate |
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| 08:11 | cait | ...and found the link: http://alshafallah.maktabat-online.net/ |
| 08:12 | Oak | nice |
| 08:12 | magnuse | yay |
| 08:13 | rangi | cool |
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| 08:27 | Oak | ... electricity was out |
| 08:27 | cait | oh :( |
| 08:29 | Oak | I should try to replicate this look http://alshafallah.maktabat-online.net/ on local install ... just for fun :) |
| 08:31 | magnuse | first attempt at a wiki page: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]f_day,_2011-06-15 i'll give y'all a little time to improve it before i send an email to the lists ;-) |
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| 08:34 | magnuse | hm, this might be a better name for it: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]f_day,_2011-06-15 (or is glogal a word?) |
| 08:34 | christophe_c | @sophie_m++ |
| 08:34 | huginn` | christophe_c: downloading the Perl source |
| 08:34 | rangi | heh |
| 08:34 | christophe_c | hello |
| 08:34 | magnuse | christophe_c: skip the @ ;-) |
| 08:35 | rangi | hi christophe_c :) |
| 08:35 | magnuse | bonjour christophe_c |
| 08:35 | christophe_c | oups sry :-[ |
| 08:35 | magnuse++ | |
| 08:35 | ;-) | |
| 08:35 | sophie_m++ | |
| 08:36 | hello all | |
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| 08:38 | cait | hi christophe_c :) |
| 08:38 | magnuse++ | |
| 08:39 | christophe_c | hi cait |
| 08:39 | cait | magnuse: wiki page looks great |
| 08:39 | ok, have to go to find our booth | |
| 08:39 | magnuse | have fun cait! |
| 08:39 | Oak | take care |
| 08:40 | cait | :) |
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| 08:40 | magnuse | one more sign off now and we reach an all time low (?) of 65! |
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| 08:48 | slef | hrm, so I'm not going to enjoy opening my koha list mailbox today, am I? |
| 08:49 | magnuse | depends on when you opened it last... |
| 08:52 | rangi | yeah, id just avoid the one thread, its pointless |
| 08:53 | the rest are fine tho :) | |
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| 09:03 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 09:04 | Oak | Haere Mai Brooke |
| 09:04 | Brooke | :) |
| 09:04 | Oak | :) |
| 09:05 | Whānau | |
| 09:05 | Brooke | heheh |
| 09:05 | Oak | :] |
| 09:06 | Brooke | He aha ō mahi i tēnei rā? |
| 09:06 | Oak | uh oh. i'll get back to you in few minutes with an answer |
| 09:07 | Tāiho | |
| 09:08 | rangi | magnuse: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl |
| 09:08 | it changes to orange when it gets below 60 | |
| 09:08 | and then green below 30 | |
| 09:08 | Brooke | it's like homeland security but better! |
| 09:08 | rangi | yep :) |
| 09:09 | it actually isnt futile ;-) | |
| 09:09 | magnuse | rangi: very cool! |
| 09:09 | rangi | feel free to embed it with ajax whereever you like |
| 09:09 | magnuse | hm, i wonder if there is some way to get it into the wiki... |
| 09:09 | Brooke | prolly :D |
| 09:10 | Oak | Brooke, Piro rawa atu! He aha pea he mahi mā tāua? |
| 09:10 | no wait | |
| 09:10 | that's wrong | |
| 09:11 | Pai mārika taku rā! Hei aha māu? | |
| 09:11 | better! | |
| 09:12 | rangi | but not quite right |
| 09:12 | Oak | hmm, yes |
| 09:12 | rangi | brooke asked what you are working on today |
| 09:13 | Brooke | isn't Hei aha māu? a wee bit combative? |
| 09:13 | rangi | nope |
| 09:14 | Oak | quite friendly in fact |
| 09:14 | rangi | but doesnt really answer the question |
| 09:14 | Oak | but i would not say that to my mom |
| 09:14 | rangi | what are you working on today |
| 09:14 | my day is really good | |
| 09:15 | and you? | |
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| 09:15 | Oak | i made a newsletter, and made updates to one of our websites |
| 09:15 | now time for lunch... | |
| 09:15 | Brooke | now that we need vocabulary for |
| 09:15 | I was messin' with the wiki. | |
| 09:15 | wiki should be relatively the same | |
| 09:17 | Oak | hm |
| 09:21 | @wunder islamabad | |
| 09:21 | huginn` | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 39.0�C (12:00 PM PKT on June 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:21 | Oak | oh good, it's cooler than yesterday |
| 09:23 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 09:23 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0�C (9:50 AM CEST on June 07, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:24 | magnuse | summer! |
| 09:24 | wahanui | summer is probably here now |
| 09:24 | magnuse | right you are wahanui! |
| 09:24 | @wunder wellington | |
| 09:24 | huginn` | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 09:24 | magnuse | @wunder wellington, new zealand |
| 09:24 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0�C (7:00 PM NZST on June 07, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:26 | Oak | time to get ready for class |
| 09:26 | later | |
| 09:26 | * Brooke | thinks huginn ought know which wellies we mean |
| 09:27 | Brooke | see ya! |
| 09:27 | Oak | :) |
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| 09:29 | rangi | its ipv6 day |
| 09:29 | or soon will be | |
| 09:30 | 8th june | |
| 09:30 | magnuse | http://www.worldipv6day.org/ |
| 09:30 | rangi | http://test-ipv6.com/ |
| 09:30 | Brooke | do they mean New Zealand, or do they mean for the unwashed masses? |
| 09:31 | rangi | well probably us time |
| 09:31 | google and a few others will be serving over ipv6 | |
| 09:33 | Brooke | dude! |
| 09:33 | Kansas is on there ;) | |
| 09:34 | rangi | and a few norwegian ones |
| 09:34 | magnuse | huh? |
| 09:35 | Brooke | and Ore Pee Eye! |
| 09:35 | but not me, cause Comcast sucks again. | |
| 09:35 | rangi | http://www.worldipv6day.org/ |
| 09:35 | scroll down to the bottom | |
| 09:36 | they are ipv6 all the time now ;) | |
| 09:36 | magnuse | woohoo ;-) |
| 09:41 | * Brooke | thinks this is prolly an opportune time to complain about the router again... |
| 10:00 | rangi | magnuse: i have nothing to add to the wiki page |
| 10:01 | Brooke | I added a link, but I should poke at it to embed cooly |
| 10:01 | magnuse | cool, i'll send the email in a short while |
| 10:02 | i think you need to fiddle with php and extensions on the server to get it into the wiki page, Brooke... | |
| 10:05 | rangi | sounds likely |
| 10:05 | but it should be easy to add with ajax to th get-involved page | |
| 10:05 | on the main site | |
| 10:05 | magnuse | probably |
| 10:05 | rangi | ill pester wizzyrea about it tomorrow |
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| 10:17 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 10:24 | magnuse | rangi: what colour names are you using in bug_status.pl? i'm trying to convert it into an image... |
| 10:25 | rangi | red, orange and green |
| 10:25 | magnuse | ok, thanks |
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| 10:28 | magnuse | o/ |
| 10:29 | druthb | o/ |
| 10:29 | rangi | hi druthb |
| 10:30 | druthb | hi, magnus and rangi! :D |
| 10:31 | slef | hrm |
| 10:31 | * druthb | waves to slef. |
| 10:31 | slef | so after detaching items from biblios, koha doesn't handle 100s of items in 3.4? Or have I misunderstood when that happened or its effect? |
| 10:32 | hi druthb | |
| 10:32 | rangi | slef: dont expect anything but lies, thats all i expect |
| 10:32 | its not worth the time, its bullshit and the author knows it too | |
| 10:33 | but yes, if you rebuild_zebra with -b -x -z and another job running -a -z it copes with 100s of items | |
| 10:34 | the detail pages get a bit clunky, but thats nothing a bit of paging couldnt fix | |
| 10:34 | slef | so I can just reply with "that's been fixed and there are other capacity-improvement patches and branches linked on the wiki"? |
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| 10:34 | slef | I'd like to rebut but minimise the time. |
| 10:34 | rangi | if you want to feed the troll, they have a case of last worditis |
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| 10:35 | rangi | so im sure some crap will come back |
| 10:36 | maybe it will now be the UK koha | |
| 10:36 | bleagh | |
| 10:36 | so stupid, i wish they would just play in their own sandpit and leave everyone else alone | |
| 10:39 | and with that, im going to go to sleep | |
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| 10:41 | magnuse | sleep tight, rangi |
| 10:42 | * Brooke | gives slef an inoculation against last word syndrome. |
| 10:42 | Brooke | night rangi |
| 10:44 | slef | "don't feed the troll" is an antipattern |
| 10:44 | I've suffered it many times. | |
| 10:44 | You cannot let lies go unchallenged because some people will believe them. | |
| 10:44 | Possibly they will repeat them. | |
| 10:45 | Eventually, enough people believe the lies that it harms you. | |
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| 10:47 | vfernandes | hi people :) |
| 10:47 | Brooke | hola |
| 10:47 | wahanui | niihau, Brooke |
| 10:49 | vfernandes | let me start with one question: who ordering by title result search records work? because when ordering from A to Z it appears for example A then T then C... which is a incorrect order |
| 10:49 | *how ordering | |
| 10:55 | in the Author it appends the same thing | |
| 10:56 | what could be wrong with ordering? | |
| 10:58 | slef | sounds like zebra config, perhaps? |
| 11:01 | vfernandes | maybe but how i can debug the problem? |
| 11:03 | i think that zebra doens't count with word "The" | |
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| 11:05 | Brooke | MARC usually doesn't count "The" |
| 11:05 | or at least, shouldn't. | |
| 11:06 | because you ought have summat in there that says "Hey! Skip this crap." namely a 4 | |
| 11:08 | vfernandes | why doesn't count "the"? is a word... lol i'm not a librarian so it's making me confused |
| 11:08 | http://catalogo.biblioteca.isc[…]&sort_by=title_az | |
| 11:09 | without "The" the result list is well ordered | |
| 11:11 | how to solve this? any idea slef or Brooke? | |
| 11:12 | Brooke | that looks to be how it is meant to sort |
| 11:12 | it isn't sorting on initial articles | |
| 11:12 | slef | The is a stop word |
| 11:12 | Brooke | and it oughtn't unless that article is special |
| 11:12 | as with stephen king's "It" | |
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| 11:13 | Brooke | arguably the prejudice titles are improperly sorted. |
| 11:14 | though it probably treats : as a full stop | |
| 11:15 | so my verdict is, you'll drive yourself insane if you try and fix summat that isn't actually broken. | |
| 11:16 | vfernandes | i don't even know where to start debugging the problem |
| 11:18 | Brooke | there is no bug |
| 11:18 | language is filed letter by letter word by word | |
| 11:18 | here I'll dig up the filing rules | |
| 11:19 | http://books.google.com/books?[…]onepage&q&f=false | |
| 11:19 | See 4 Initial Articles. | |
| 11:20 | vfernandes | i know that isn't a bug, but for me it's a problem because the librarian i'm work with wants it correctly ordered |
| 11:20 | Brooke | then show the Librarian 4. |
| 11:20 | diplomatically, of course ;) | |
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| 11:21 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 11:23 | vfernandes | there is also problem with portuguese titles "A história"... "A" doesn't counts for ordering |
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| 11:34 | vfernandes | damn :/ |
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| 11:44 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 11:47 | vfernandes | i've changed marc_defs of zebra where there is a map of the words "The", "An", "a"... |
| 11:47 | i've commentated that mapping... let's see if worls | |
| 11:47 | *works | |
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| 11:58 | vfernandes | commentate doesn't solve my problem but changing the map solved :) |
| 11:58 | vfernandes++ lol | |
| 11:58 | huginn` | vfernandes: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
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| 12:08 | Brooke | 0/ |
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| 12:43 | slef | hrm, don't know if that will do any good |
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| 13:05 | tcohen | hi #koha |
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| 13:23 | vfernandes | problem with title ordering solved |
| 13:23 | but the problem with author ordering remains | |
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| 13:36 | tcohen | I want to make translating SQL files for 'es-ES' possible |
| 13:36 | do I make a copy of 'en'? | |
| 13:36 | can the RM do it so it is up-to-date? (i.e. no wait until accepted) | |
| 13:37 | is that the common workflow every other language followed? | |
| 13:40 | magnuse | paul_p++ |
| 13:40 | paul_p | magnuse, for which mail ? the koha-devel or the holiday in Marseille ? ;-) |
| 13:41 | magnuse | paul_p: both, definitely! ;-) |
| 13:42 | paul_p | and only 1 ++ ? (in french we say "radin", which is translated by google to skinflint or tightwad. dunno if it's a correct translation, "radin" has a funny/joking part) |
| 13:43 | magnuse | ok then |
| 13:43 | paul_p++ | |
| 13:43 | ;-) | |
| 13:44 | although i was thinking about the koha-devel one right now | |
| 13:47 | wizzyrea | paul_p++ |
| 13:48 | slef++ | |
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| 13:50 | * cait | waves |
| 13:52 | magnuse | o/ |
| 13:52 | how's the bibliothektag, cait? | |
| 13:53 | cait | busy :) |
| 13:53 | magnuse | good busy? |
| 13:55 | cait | yep |
| 13:56 | magnuse | cool |
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| 14:07 | cait | paul_p++ |
| 14:07 | paul_p | same question as the one asked to magnuse : |
| 14:07 | cait, for which mail ? the koha-devel or the holiday in Marseille ? ;-) | |
| 14:08 | :D | |
| 14:08 | cait | koha-devel :) |
| 14:08 | but paul_p++ for the other too :) | |
| 14:08 | paul_p | ;-) |
| 14:09 | magnuse | paul_p is probably just fishing for double ++'s ;-) |
| 14:09 | paul_p | damned, i'm caught :D |
| 14:10 | cait | hehe probably |
| 14:17 | paul_p | magnuse, why 15th ? why not 10th (for the global sign-off day) |
| 14:17 | cait | why 10th? |
| 14:17 | ;) | |
| 14:17 | wizzyrea | i like how paul_p cracks the whip on signoffs :) |
| 14:17 | cait | 15th is my fault... |
| 14:17 | paul_p | I ask because yesterday, we've dediced to dedicate half a day every 2 weeks to this task (for all BibLibre), and our 1st will be 10th ... |
| 14:18 | (wanted to announce that, but magnus mail has been sent before...) | |
| 14:18 | cait | biblibre++ |
| 14:19 | * cait | will spend 10th on a train |
| 14:19 | magnuse | biblibre++ |
| 14:20 | well, this is just to set the ball rolling | |
| 14:20 | i think 3 days warning might have been a bit short? | |
| 14:21 | if a global sign off day is a success we can coordinate it with biblibre in the future | |
| 14:21 | paul_p | i'll check if we can switch our 1st day to the 15th. But then, we think that friday is a good day (end of the week for everybody) |
| 14:21 | magnuse | and/or expand it to other stuff, like closing bugs etc |
| 14:21 | paul_p | magnuse, we don't plan to do signoff only, but also other stuff ;-) |
| 14:22 | magnuse | cool |
| 14:22 | * magnuse | has nothing against fridays |
| 14:22 | magnuse | :-) |
| 14:25 | paul_p | not possible for biblibre on 15th (3 devs outside, for a customer installation or training, including hdl & clrh). So let's stay with 15th for you and 10th for us, next time we will coordinate better ;-) |
| 14:26 | magnuse | yup |
| 14:26 | lots of sign offs any way ;-) | |
| 14:36 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6299] Provide a list of authorized values for relator terms <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6299> |
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| 14:38 | magnuse | kia ora sekjal! |
| 14:38 | sekjal | hi, magnuse! |
| 14:38 | cait | hi sekjal |
| 14:39 | sekjal | hi cait |
| 14:39 | slef | wizzyrea++ |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 14:40 | slef | bg++ too |
| 14:40 | magnuse | koha_community++ |
| 14:41 | cait | mailing lists? |
| 14:41 | wahanui | mailing lists is better imho |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | forget mailing lists |
| 14:41 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot mailing lists |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 14:42 | mailing lists? | |
| 14:42 | wahanui | mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 14:58 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:06 | magnuse | http://www.cyclingforlibraries.org/ has reached berlin! |
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| 15:36 | slef | magnuse++ |
| 15:38 | * magnuse | blushes |
| 15:40 | druthb | magnuse++ |
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| 15:51 | rhcl | @seen rangi |
| 15:51 | huginn` | rhcl: rangi was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 12 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <rangi> and with that, im going to go to sleep |
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| 15:59 | wizzyrea | http://blog.archive.org/2011/0[…]internet-archive/ |
| 15:59 | neat ! | |
| 16:04 | rhcl | Quote: "A library that would prefer to not be named was found to be thinning their collections and throwing out books based on what had been digitized by Google." |
| 16:05 | * druthb | boggles |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | yea, what's that about |
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| 16:13 | magnuse | hey, who needs dead treas when you can access the content 24/7 from google - from anywhere? ;-) |
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| 16:22 | wizzyrea | ooooh |
| 16:22 | http://sixrevisions.com/resour[…]orials-beginners/ | |
| 16:23 | git for beginners is at http://sixrevisions.com/resour[…]orials-beginners/ | |
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| 16:32 | nengard | what is the command to view the perl doc? i want to see what purge_suggestions.pl does |
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| 16:42 | hdl | perldoc |
| 16:42 | perldoc myscript.pl | |
| 16:42 | magnuse | No documentation found for "purge_suggestions.pl". |
| 16:42 | hdl | purge_suggestions is to delete the old suggestions. |
| 16:43 | perl purge_suggestions.pl --h | |
| 16:43 | nengard | that i knew :) just wanted to include instructions on how to use the cron in the manual - i have the perl docs in the manual if they exist |
| 16:43 | hdl | perl purge_suggestions.pl -? |
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| 16:51 | wizzyrea | also, we should add an example cron to the crontab.example |
| 16:51 | if there's a new job | |
| 16:51 | what's the recommended interval for that | |
| 16:51 | * wizzyrea | has a mind to do it |
| 16:51 | * magnuse | urges wizzyrea on |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | I'd need to know the recommended interval tho >.> |
| 16:52 | or, we should come up with a recommended interval | |
| 16:52 | weekly? | |
| 16:52 | magnuse | sounds good to me |
| 16:53 | i doubt there are many libraries that would run out of space because that script was not run more often | |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | right |
| 16:53 | magnuse | but then again |
| 16:53 | @quote get 123 | |
| 16:53 | huginn` | magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 16:54 | magnuse | ;-) |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 16:55 | are there any other new cronjobs that need to be added while i'm in there? | |
| 16:56 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]acba8f243;hb=HEAD | |
| 16:56 | is current | |
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| 16:58 | * magnus_away | gotta run |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | and oy! purge_suggestions isn't in 'cronjobs' |
| 17:00 | ! | |
| 17:00 | * wizzyrea | mutters |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | derr |
| 17:00 | * wizzyrea | facepalms |
| 17:00 | wizzyrea | perhaps if your terminal window was not dragged half way off of your screen |
| 17:01 | * cait | sends liz a cookie |
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| 17:02 | wizzyrea | thanks :) |
| 17:03 | * Agent_Dani | has managed such on occasion. |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | zounds how did this ever work before git bz |
| 17:05 | now: lunch. | |
| 17:05 | druthb | folks, say howdy to Agent_Dani, a friend of mine who has expressed some interest in our little community...she's a DRA admin from way back. :) |
| 17:06 | Agent_Dani | Hi! |
| 17:07 | cait | hi :) |
| 17:07 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6478] purge_suggestions.pl needs an example crontab <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6478> |
| 17:11 | tcohen | i'm stuck, couldn't ifnd a way to split a file into several patches (for size matters) |
| 17:15 | anyone there to give me a hint? | |
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| 17:22 | chris_n | tcohen: make more frequent commits, maybe? |
| 17:22 | nengard | regarding this item on the release notes for 3.4 "Printed receipts can now include the library phone, address and other fields" how does it work? What do you do to customize it? |
| 17:22 | updating the manual in case you all can't tell | |
| 17:22 | tcohen | i have a 3.5MB frameworks file |
| 17:23 | i'll use a shell script to split that file into several commits | |
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| 17:30 | clrh | tcho |
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| 17:41 | wizzyrea | nengard: I never found that either |
| 17:42 | nengard | hmmm |
| 17:42 | how about the holds stats ... did you ever get that to work? | |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea | i haven't checked it lately |
| 17:46 | I suspect that it was a recent TT bug keeping that from working | |
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| 17:47 | * Oak | waves quickly |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | o? |
| 17:47 | er o/ | |
| 17:48 | though the ? makes it look like he's scratching his head | |
| 17:48 | Oak | heya wizzyrea did not want to get noticed |
| 17:48 | nengard | wizzyrea no, it didn't work before the TT change |
| 17:48 | * wizzyrea | completely ignores Oak |
| 17:48 | Oak | good |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea | nengard hmm |
| 17:50 | * druthb | can't ignore Oak! |
| 17:50 | druthb | o/ |
| 17:50 | Oak | hiya druthb |
| 17:51 | cait | me neither |
| 17:51 | hi Oak | |
| 17:51 | Oak | aw, you both are too kind |
| 17:51 | Whānau | |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | hey, I was only following directions |
| 17:51 | Oak | :] |
| 17:52 | hello cait | |
| 17:52 | do you have a cat | |
| 17:52 | cait | no |
| 17:53 | Oak | ok, i'll think about it why I asked that |
| 17:53 | cait | why? |
| 17:53 | * wizzyrea | wonders if Oak is feeling alright today |
| 17:53 | Oak | still thinking |
| 17:54 | * druthb | wonders the same thing. |
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| 18:25 | rhcl | @seen rangi |
| 18:25 | huginn` | rhcl: rangi was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 45 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <rangi> and with that, im going to go to sleep |
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| 18:33 | conan | hi everyone |
| 18:34 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6316] es-ES translation for SQL files <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6316> |
| 18:35 | rhcl | hi conan |
| 18:38 | tcohen | hi conan |
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| 18:42 | Oak | uh oh, druthb, cait, wizzyrea electricity went out from 23:00 to 23:45... |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | oh no! |
| 18:42 | cait | :( |
| 18:42 | Oak | i forgot about the schedule before talking nonsense :) |
| 18:43 | well, it goes daily, will go again at 3am | |
| 18:43 | fun | |
| 18:44 | druthb | welcome back, Oak. :) |
| 18:44 | Oak | thank you druthb :) |
| 18:45 | rangi | tcohen: about? |
| 18:46 | cait | morning rangi |
| 18:46 | * Oak | listening to The Sundays - Wild Horses http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9lEd5bIbbQ |
| 18:48 | tcohen | Oak: nice version |
| 18:48 | Oak | :) yes, i like it very much |
| 18:48 | tcohen | rangi: i wanted to talk about bug 6316 |
| 18:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6316 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, ASSIGNED , es-ES translation for SQL files |
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| 18:49 | tcohen | and the better path to have it |
| 18:49 | rangi | @later tell tcohen just fyi for a lot of commits like that a pull request sometimes is better |
| 18:49 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:49 | rangi | hi cait |
| 18:49 | conan | tcohen: there's new discussion about that |
| 18:49 | don't recall the bug number | |
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| 18:49 | conan | but someone was proposing another way to deal with those translations |
| 18:50 | rangi | only for sysprefs conan |
| 18:50 | the rest still need sql (and sysprefs do too, until we fix the web installer) | |
| 18:51 | because prefs are translatable via pootle/po | |
| 18:51 | we can change the installer to just use en, no matter what language | |
| 18:52 | but for now, we have to update all syspref files until thats done | |
| 18:53 | conan | rangi: no, I recall him talking about fields and subfields , I'll check my browser history |
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| 18:54 | rangi | but frameworks, letters etc, all need their own files |
| 18:55 | yeah those changes are way way away | |
| 18:55 | sysprefs is achievable easily | |
| 18:56 | and having sql files for them is less of a problem | |
| 18:56 | they change rarely | |
| 18:56 | sysprefs change a lot | |
| 18:56 | so sorting that for 3.6 would be great | |
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| 19:02 | rangi | ok time to make lunches |
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| 19:05 | Oak | cranky. should sleep. night. |
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| 19:16 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6479] Encoding problem in "recievedlist" when the numbering formula contains utf-8 characters <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6479> |
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| 19:23 | sekjal | I'm compiling a list of MySQL queries to sanity-check a Koha database. I'd like to automate these in script so one can quickly check their data for known problems |
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| 19:24 | sekjal | is there an existing script in /t to tack this onto, or should it go into something new? |
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| 19:28 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6480] Koha produces a lot of apache logs for UNIMARC <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6480> |
| 19:35 | rangi | as predicted last worditis kicks in |
| 19:35 | and the rant becomes even less grounded in fact | |
| 19:36 | for the record clay, MJ alone has 3 times as many commits in koha as the whole of ptfs | |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure why we're even still talking about this. |
| 19:37 | besides clarifying that local forks vs what they did are different animals | |
| 19:38 | rangi | yep no point responded to his emails |
| 19:38 | responding even | |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | so for the record: don't feed the trolls. |
| 19:38 | ^.^ | |
| 19:39 | conan | we should call stallman and sue them for removing names in about :P |
| 19:39 | rangi | be nice if the trolls played on their own mailing list |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | word. |
| 19:39 | to the 2nd, not the "call stallman" | |
| 19:40 | conan | rangi: do you recall our talk last wed? you recommended me to fill sub themelanguage with warns |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | as much as I like feeling outrage over the wrongs they have perpetrated on our project, I'd rather just help make koha better. |
| 19:40 | conan | rangi: couldn't do it then, so I'm testing now |
| 19:40 | curious thing | |
| 19:40 | I just downloaded and installed .po files from Pootle, that are 100% translated | |
| 19:41 | I log in and wander and all is ok | |
| 19:41 | then I ask a user to log in and check | |
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| 19:41 | conan | and he sees the header and menu in english and the rest in spanish |
| 19:41 | I check his cookies, and he doesn't have the Opac... cookie | |
| 19:42 | in fact, I have 3 cookies and he only has 1, the one from login | |
| 19:42 | there's no cookie filtering going on his machine | |
| 19:42 | I checked that | |
| 19:42 | rangi | something to look at then,cookie lost logging in? |
| 19:42 | conan | he logs, we check cookies, boom, only one |
| 19:42 | he doesnt have KOhaopaclanguage nor marcdocs_0 | |
| 19:43 | I'm tailing -f error log and it shows this: | |
| 19:43 | rangi | yep that I think has always happened |
| 19:43 | login starts a fresh session | |
| 19:44 | if he sets his language now does that stick? | |
| 19:44 | pastebot | "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "cookies and language problem" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/77 |
| 19:45 | rangi | on my phone can't look easy |
| 19:45 | conan | the one from above is me, seeing all beautiful in english, using linux+firefox |
| 19:45 | rangi | but I believe u |
| 19:45 | conan | ah, sorry, are you walking? |
| 19:45 | rangi | bus |
| 19:45 | the thing is try 3.2 and see if login resets cookie | |
| 19:46 | and if so we know where to look | |
| 19:46 | if not then we do too :) | |
| 19:46 | conan | I'll have to set up an new installation for that check |
| 19:47 | do you happen to recall where to look? I think maybe it will be easier to look before doing a full install | |
| 19:47 | with a strong remark on maybe ;) | |
| 19:47 | rangi | c4::output |
| 19:47 | conan | ah! |
| 19:47 | that one | |
| 19:48 | why are there two sub themelanguage ? | |
| 19:48 | rangi | it does the headers/cookies |
| 19:48 | it wont be that, that only reads the cookie | |
| 19:48 | conan | the sub seems to be a copy from Templates.pm |
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| 19:52 | rangi | other way round |
| 19:52 | template is a copy from output | |
| 19:52 | but like I say | |
| 19:52 | not the problem | |
| 19:52 | it only reads not sets cookies | |
| 19:53 | too hard to debug on a crowded bus | |
| 19:54 | you'll figure it out :) | |
| 19:57 | conan | rangi: your suggestion to set the language worked |
| 19:57 | rangi: so I guess the problem is there's no cookie kohaopaclanguage at login | |
| 19:58 | and to make it work you have to do an initial language switch | |
| 19:58 | now I need to figure out why there's no cookie set at the beginning | |
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| 20:04 | rangi | yup |
| 20:08 | bus stop bbiab | |
| 20:08 | conan | I'm thinking this is not a cookie problem, is a logic problem! |
| 20:09 | Where are we telling koha we would like to use this or that language? | |
| 20:09 | From what I'm seeing in Home › Administration › System Preferences > I18N/L10N preferences | |
| 20:09 | never | |
| 20:09 | we just give it a list of languages | |
| 20:10 | Am I mistaken? | |
| 20:10 | the cookie is working ok, it should be set when someone chooses the language, not upon login | |
| 20:10 | because upon login koha doesn't know what the user wants anyway | |
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| 20:12 | conan | I'm thinking about adding a new syspref to set that, unless someone prove me wrong in the above reasoning |
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| 20:28 | rhcl | Inhalation Guide? That's something I'd write. |
| 20:28 | rangi | heh |
| 20:29 | rhcl: would you be able to do me a favour | |
| 20:29 | francharb | good night @koha! |
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| 20:30 | rangi | i answered the inhalation guide, do you want to tackle teh Guidance email from Tim Bateson |
| 20:30 | im diplomaced out | |
| 20:30 | or anyone else for that matter | |
| 20:31 | moodaepo | rangi++ diplomaced++ |
| 20:32 | @wunder 56001 | |
| 20:32 | huginn` | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 37.0�C (2:56 PM CDT on June 07, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.48 in 998.2 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 8 PM CDT this evening... |
| 20:33 | pastebot | "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "default language setting: to be or not to be" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/78 |
| 20:34 | cait | hah |
| 20:34 | solved the second serials problem :) | |
| 20:34 | hm, let's say it works better than before | |
| 20:35 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 20:35 | magnuse | conan: koha does not have a setting for default language now, but i sure think it needs one! |
| 20:35 | conan | it can be though two ways: |
| 20:36 | or we add 2 new syspref for preferred language (opac and staff) and change the explanations/definitions on those language options that we have now | |
| 20:37 | magnuse | i think two new sysprefs are needed, for default language |
| 20:37 | cait | I think we need both, default and activated languages |
| 20:37 | magnuse | the sysprefs we have today only set available languages |
| 20:37 | cait | so 4 sys prefs |
| 20:37 | magnuse | cait: yup |
| 20:37 | conan | or we add a new syspref called language_list or available_languages and start using language and opaclanguage to *really* set a default language, and not to hold a language list, which what they are doing right now |
| 20:38 | did you read the second option? ^^^^ | |
| 20:38 | which one would be easier to implement? | |
| 20:38 | * magnuse | thinks it's better to create new sysprefs for new functionality, not reuse old ones for it |
| 20:38 | conan | magnuse: but check the explanations! |
| 20:38 | * magnuse | thinks the first one is easier |
| 20:38 | magnuse | we could change the explanations |
| 20:39 | i think it's easier to not make old sysprefs do something new | |
| 20:39 | conan | hum... then the names would be misleading |
| 20:39 | ok then | |
| 20:39 | so two new syspref marching | |
| 20:39 | rangi | diplomacy worked with ed :) |
| 20:42 | magnuse | conan: let's talk some more tomorrow (if you havn't fixed it in the meantime ;-) |
| 20:42 | * magnuse | wanders off again |
| 20:42 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
| 20:43 | rhcl | rangi: just came back to the computer, lemme look at the guidance email |
| 20:43 | rangi | thanks :) |
| 20:43 | rhcl++ # for bothering to even look | |
| 20:45 | rhcl | I'll get part of it, I don't use AD so won't be much help there, unless I can fiind some docs for it. |
| 20:45 | rangi | ahh i can do that bit, it was more the bit that required diplomacy, and im all out ;-) |
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| 20:48 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 20:49 | cait | hi Brooke |
| 20:49 | Brooke | :) |
| 20:50 | rangi | heya Brooke |
| 20:50 | cait: is it very busy there? | |
| 20:50 | cait | here? ses |
| 20:51 | ye | |
| 20:51 | can't type | |
| 20:51 | yes | |
| 20:51 | but not now of course :) | |
| 20:51 | if there means the congress? | |
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| 20:54 | wizzyrea | opachiddenitems -- does this actually work? |
| 20:54 | I've consulted the referenced text file | |
| 20:54 | Brooke | hey there pianohacker |
| 20:54 | pianohacker | Hi guys |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | and put in one of the examples |
| 20:55 | does it have to reindex? | |
| 20:55 | rangi | not sure wizzyrea |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | was that a biblibre thing? |
| 20:55 | just wondering who to ask :) | |
| 20:56 | cait | I think it mentioned a file somehwere? |
| 20:56 | ah | |
| 20:56 | you did that, right? the example? | |
| 20:56 | * cait | decides to be silent and work on the serials thing |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | yepper :) |
| 20:56 | lol no don't! | |
| 21:02 | cait | not work on the serials thing? |
| 21:02 | :P | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | no be quiet :P |
| 21:08 | * wizzyrea | gives cait cookies |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | do you know how the opachiddenitems works :P |
| 21:08 | j/k, I'll consult paul_p in the morning | |
| 21:09 | rangi | :) |
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| 21:10 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 21:10 | Space_Librarian | morning #koha |
| 21:10 | Brooke | morena |
| 21:10 | Space_Librarian | goeie more ;) |
| 21:12 | cait | thx for the cookies |
| 21:12 | Space_Librarian | hey cait |
| 21:12 | cait | hi Space_Librarian |
| 21:12 | :) | |
| 21:12 | * cait | shares a cookie with Space_Librarian |
| 21:13 | * Space_Librarian | accepts half a cookie. |
| 21:13 | Space_Librarian | Thanks cait. :) |
| 21:13 | * ibeardslee | works out if he has a reason to wander to L7 |
| 21:13 | * Space_Librarian | hides her chocolate cake. |
| 21:14 | rangi | heh |
| 21:14 | pianohacker | Well, I'm hungry now, thanks to you all |
| 21:14 | Better go take care of that | |
| 21:14 | Space_Librarian | :) |
| 21:24 | * Brooke | sneaks a wee bit of choc... |
| 21:24 | * Space_Librarian | grins at Brooke |
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| 21:35 | sekjal | time to go. night, all |
| 21:35 | Brooke | night night |
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| 21:37 | cait | hah! |
| 21:37 | rangi | ? |
| 21:38 | cait | thought I solved the enumchron problem.. |
| 21:38 | thought... | |
| 21:38 | rangi | rhcl++ # thank you |
| 21:40 | cait | [Tue Jun 07 23:44:10 2011] [error] [client ::1] [Tue Jun 7 23:44:10 2011] serials-edit.pl: Indicator in 952 is empty at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Biblio.pm line 1906., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]1&serstatus=1,3,7 |
| 21:41 | rhcl | np |
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| 21:53 | rangi | atz++ # signing off patches |
| 21:57 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6305] The serials are not working properly <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6305> |
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| 22:02 | cait | bug 6305: no idea why no items are created - perhaps someone can take a look at that? |
| 22:02 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , The serials are not working properly |
| 22:02 | cait | it's one of those evil bugs |
| 22:02 | rhcl | Of perhaps mild interest, it seems LC and Columbia Univ use Voyager on top of Oracle; Voyager uses perl scripts. By inference, it seems it may run on Windows. |
| 22:03 | rangi | oh perl def runs on windows |
| 22:03 | activestate and strawberry perl are 2 ways to do it | |
| 22:04 | chris_n had koha 3.2. running on windows as a proof of concept, it wasnt easy though .. and really ... free stack ftw ;) | |
| 22:04 | rhcl | No, a cursory search indicates Voyager runs on Windows, haven't checked enough to know if it runs on *nix. |
| 22:05 | We decided, just for fun, to install wireshark on our koha test server, then do a bunch of Z39.50 checks to different libraries. | |
| 22:10 | You know, just a philosophical comment here not particularly related to Koha, but the thing I have always thought about Mono and Miguel de Icaza is that we have an obviously very talented programmer | |
| 22:10 | who as invested a lot of coding time in a project to make something compatible with MS, and now HTML5 is probably going to make a great deal of it moot | |
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| 22:11 | rangi | yep |
| 22:12 | the problem for me, with mono, was the patent threats that hung over it | |
| 22:12 | rhcl | I have to work to remind myself that Sambais valuable; I really just want to make a rule: "Just use Linux!" |
| 22:12 | rangi | well ... "Just use free software!" thats a pretty good one :-) |
| 22:14 | rhcl | I know a group of programmers for a very large public transportation system that are writing mission-critical, public-safety critical, systems in C++ and C# running on Windows servers. It's almost beyond belief for me. |
| 22:14 | When I was a kid growing up anything critical was written in Ada and running on Unix. | |
| 22:14 | rangi | yup |
| 22:18 | * chilts | used to write Ada |
| 22:18 | chilts | Ada 83 (Ravenscar Profile) |
| 22:18 | rangi | chilts! :) |
| 22:18 | chilts | hello :) |
| 22:18 | I still lurk | |
| 22:18 | rangi | when you were building rockets? |
| 22:18 | chilts | yeah, 2000-2001 |
| 22:18 | rangi | sweet |
| 22:19 | chilts | that was for Beagle2, before that it was C for the XMM-Newton control centre |
| 22:19 | one day I'll have some good stories for my grandkids (I should write them down before I forget) | |
| 22:19 | rangi | can we blame you for it being lost? |
| 22:19 | :) | |
| 22:20 | chilts | it was the parachutes :) |
| 22:20 | heh, how does off work: [OFF] or OFF: or something? ;) | |
| 22:20 | rangi | test |
| 22:21 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]11-06-07#i_688237 | |
| 22:21 | chilts | it was kinda crazy |
| 22:21 | rangi | ahh that'd do it |
| 22:21 | chilts | that's my opinion anyway |
| 22:21 | * chilts | deflects blame |
| 22:21 | rhcl | interesting |
| 22:21 | wahanui | interesting is good |
| 22:21 | chilts | though they carried on doing the project for a year and a half after I stopped on it, only did it for 9 months |
| 22:22 | I see XMM-Newton is still going though :) | |
| 22:22 | so that's good | |
| 22:22 | * chilts | use to have achiltonesa.int :) <- it was cool |
| 22:24 | rhcl | Yea, I used to work at a different place too. |
| 22:25 | rangi | thats a pretty cool address |
| 22:26 | rhcl: airforce eh ? | |
| 22:26 | rhcl | um, yea |
| 22:29 | well, let's call it a day. see ya' all tomorrow | |
| 22:29 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
| 22:30 | rangi | cya |
| 22:35 | conan | later |
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| 22:54 | eythian | rangi: I have to commend you not cracking a joke at "inhalation guide" :) |
| 22:55 | I'm not convinced I could have been so disciplined. | |
| 22:55 | rangi | it was tricky |
| 22:55 | got a nice off list email from ed though so it was worth it ;) | |
| 22:55 | eythian | heh |
| 22:57 | cait | :) |
| 23:00 | eythian | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kitten_Huffing <-- relevant |
| 23:01 | rangi | you manage to find the most irrelevant relevant things ;) |
| 23:01 | eythian | it's a talent |
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| 23:03 | Space_Librarian | Kitten huffing is so 2004 |
| 23:03 | ;) | |
| 23:06 | eythian | I just about replied to a message on the debian-perl list about installing Koha packages the debian way, getting my mailing lists confused (it was someone asking about installing modules using the cpan tool) |
| 23:06 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 23:06 | eythian | Need to be careful of that... |
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| 23:09 | rangi | ahh :) |
| 23:09 | yep | |
| 23:09 | Ricardo is now known as ricmarques | |
| 23:09 | ricmarques is now known as Guest3804 | |
| 23:10 | Guest3804 is now known as ricmarques | |
| 23:10 | ricmarques | Ah, done. |
| 23:10 | Hi everyone! :) | |
| 23:12 | rangi | heya ricmarques |
| 23:12 | ricmarques | rangi: Hi Chris! I see that I'm not the only one that changed his nick from the IRC server of Katipo ;-) |
| 23:13 | rangi | :) |
| 23:14 | ricmarques | I see that Lenora has just followed-up to my Reply to Ed Veal (about installing Koha in openSUSE) but I don't understand her answer / comment: |
| 23:14 | "If I can get the evaluation forms, I can get those into the program books." | |
| 23:14 | ? | |
| 23:16 | rangi | hmm didnt see that |
| 23:16 | maybe not to the list? | |
| 23:16 | i just followed up too | |
| 23:16 | offering you 10 points to make a patch :-) | |
| 23:16 | ricmarques | rangi: Ah, you're right... She replied only to me (not to the list) |
| 23:17 | rangi: Making a patch with changes from another user and getting karma points from that? That almost sounds like cheating ;-) | |
| 23:18 | rangi | nice thing is the wiki is gpl licensed, so you can do that :-) |
| 23:18 | ricmarques | (I would keep both attributions it the path, obviously - to me and to Frank :) |
| 23:18 | rangi | yep |
| 23:18 | that would be perfect | |
| 23:19 | ricmarques | OK. I can try to do that, in the next few days (or over the weekend) |
| 23:19 | BTW: have you noticed my post with my "bulkmarcimport" question about the "v 2" option? | |
| 23:19 | rangi | ah yeah, i havent had time to confirm |
| 23:20 | sounds like its a bug to me though | |
| 23:21 | ricmarques | rangi: Right... I seem to recall (but I may be wrong) that the "v2 option" worked (dumped MARC records in the first 3.0.x versions). So, it might even be a regression |
| 23:22 | rangi | could well be |
| 23:23 | ricmarques | rangi: Anyway, if you find some ISO to run it over (with the "-t" option if you wish - so it only tests it, but does nothing) that would be great |
| 23:24 | rangi | ill see if i get a chance, no promises though, hopefully someone else gets a chance too, otherwise it will have to wait til i get time .. .. whenever that might be :) |
| 23:24 | ricmarques | rangi: Sure, no problem :) |
| 23:29 | BTW. Do you rangi - or anyone here - know about some command-line program to "fix" "broken" ISO files? | |
| 23:30 | rangi | to fix the marc? |
| 23:30 | hmmm | |
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| 23:30 | rangi | i dont, someone else might though |
| 23:31 | ricmarques | rangi: OK, thanks for the feedback |
| 23:31 | yhager | What could be the reason that when I click on a book in search results I get a 404? |
| 23:31 | rangi | theres just too many things that can be wrong ricmarques |
| 23:31 | yhager: you zebra index is out of date | |
| 23:32 | yhager | I am running rebuild_zebra -b -a -z every 10 minutes.. this had started a few days ago... |
| 23:32 | rangi | it might be worth doing a total rebuild |
| 23:33 | yhager: is it a book that has been deleted? | |
| 23:33 | if so | |
| 23:33 | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]faq/searching/#20 | |
| 23:33 | yhager | wait, I need to check if the cronjob is really running. |
| 23:33 | rangi | yeah check that too ;) |
| 23:35 | yhager | ok, my problem was in the cronjob, but I am curious about the delete issue |
| 23:35 | do I need to run a full rebuild every once in a while, or is -z enough? | |
| 23:36 | rangi | -z should be enough |
| 23:41 | yhager | rangi: so I assume the delete issue you linked above is not the normal course |
| 23:41 | rangi | yeah, thats only if the -z is running and somehow a deleted record is still showing |
| 23:46 | ricmarques | Well... It's sleep time for me. Take care rangi, yhager... and everyone else! :) |
| 23:46 | rangi | sleep well ricmarques |
| 23:48 | yhager | sleep tight :) |
| 23:50 | ricmarques | rangi / yhager: Thanks! :) |
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