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| 03:58 | palhmbs | hi - found out about koha through OpenHatch - looks like a great project! |
| 03:58 | I'd like to help you guys add a bug tracker - I think your using bugzilla? | |
| 04:31 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6466] hung socket read causes SIP tests to fail <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6466> |
| 04:39 | mtj | palhmbs: you know of a bug-tracker better than bugzilla? |
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| 05:09 | mtj | palhmbs: aaah - you mean add the Koha bugzilla to the OpenHatch tracker |
| 05:12 | OpenHatch++ | |
| 05:25 | palhmbs | yup - the OpenHatch bug tracker tracker :D |
| 05:51 | mtj | palhmbs: initial Koha bug-trackers added to OpenHatch... |
| 05:53 | palhmbs | mtj, thanks for that -- that's awesome! |
| 05:53 | is there a list of current libraries using koha? | |
| 05:54 | * palhmbs | would love to see some usage stats |
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| 05:59 | palhmbs | nm - found it, very impressive too! |
| 06:09 | thanks again - ttyl! | |
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| 06:18 | cait | hi #koha |
| 06:20 | Oak | hello cait :) |
| 06:20 | in Berlin? | |
| 06:20 | cait | not yet |
| 06:21 | leaving for the train station in 15 minutes :) | |
| 06:21 | Oak | ah |
| 06:21 | have a safe journey | |
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| 06:29 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 06:31 | alex_a | hi #koha |
| 06:32 | cait | thx Oak :) |
| 06:32 | hi Ropuch and alex_a | |
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| 06:36 | julian | hi #koha |
| 06:36 | cait | hi julian |
| 06:37 | bye all :) | |
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| 06:43 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:43 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune |
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| 06:44 | reiveune | salut lds |
| 06:44 | lds | salut reiveune |
| 06:44 | comment vas | |
| 06:44 | reiveune | bien, et toi, on te revoie quand ici ? |
| 06:44 | lds | c'est à déterminer |
| 06:45 | reiveune | ok, mais à part ça, ça va ? lds ? |
| 06:45 | lds | oui tranquille, j'entretient mon potager :-) |
| 06:45 | reiveune | cool |
| 06:49 | paul_p | hello world |
| 06:49 | reiveune & lds : you're on #koha -english speaking- channel ;-) | |
| 06:50 | lds | paul_p: my apologies |
| 06:50 | paul_p | ;-) |
| 06:50 | reiveune | paul_p: my apologies |
| 06:50 | :P | |
| 06:50 | lds | reiveune: I grow my tomatoes |
| 06:50 | reiveune | lds : how are you ? |
| 06:51 | lds | in my garden |
| 06:51 | :-D | |
| 06:51 | reiveune | :-D |
| 06:57 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 06:59 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 06:59 | alex_a | bonjour magnuse |
| 07:00 | magnuse | hi alex_a |
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| 07:00 | magnuse | bonjour clrh |
| 07:00 | clrh | hello magnuse and all |
| 07:07 | rangi | evening |
| 07:07 | magnuse | ata marie rangi |
| 07:18 | Oak | ok, so we know rangi, I know ata, who is marie? |
| 07:19 | magnuse | 10th from the top: http://christchurchcitylibrari[…]/Maori/TeReoKete/ |
| 07:22 | * Oak | bookmarks the page |
| 07:22 | Oak | Ata Marie magnuse ! |
| 07:23 | magnuse | ata marie Oak |
| 07:24 | Oak | Whakarongo, E noho, and Turituri |
| 07:24 | fun :) | |
| 07:27 | i'll say that Brooke when she comes here... | |
| 07:27 | to* | |
| 07:28 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:30 | Oak | :) |
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| 07:41 | francharb | morning all |
| 07:41 | magnuse | bonjour francharb |
| 07:41 | Oak | Haere Mai |
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| 07:53 | miguel | hi all |
| 07:53 | Oak | Haere Mai |
| 07:53 | magnuse | hi miguel |
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| 08:14 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:15 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0�C (9:50 AM CEST on June 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:15 | magnuse | i'd simply call it "a beautiful day"... |
| 08:29 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 08:29 | huginn` | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 40.0�C (1:00 PM PKT on June 06, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:30 | Oak | excellent |
| 08:30 | magnuse | ooh, that's hot! |
| 08:30 | Oak | you think |
| 08:30 | :) | |
| 08:30 | magnuse | hot and dry! |
| 08:33 | Oak | it's actually cooler today. these days it's normally 45�C |
| 08:33 | magnuse | wow |
| 08:33 | * Oak | drinks water again |
| 08:33 | magnuse | sounds like a good idea! ;-) |
| 08:33 | Oak | aaah |
| 08:33 | :) | |
| 08:34 | and we only have fans in our home. no air conditioning ! | |
| 08:35 | magnuse | hm |
| 08:52 | Ropuch | @wunder Wroclaw |
| 08:52 | huginn` | Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is 26.0�C (10:30 AM CEST on June 06, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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| 09:17 | slef | @seen gmcharlt |
| 09:17 | huginn` | slef: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 2 days, 20 hours, 41 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> @quote add <oleonard> That's why I'm the only one with a flying car. I just didn't figure anyone else would be interested. |
| 09:18 | rangi | slef: how far away from brighton are you? |
| 09:18 | slef++ #good email | |
| 09:18 | slef | @later tell gmcharlt please please please can we either fix wiki sending confirmation emails or switch off email validation requirement? bug 6326 is really hurting us (see dpavlin on koha-devel) |
| 09:18 | huginn` | slef: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:18 | slef | rangi: about 4h |
| 09:19 | rangi | ah righto |
| 09:19 | slef | rangi: I forked your git-bz fork. How receptive is the maintainer to pull requests? |
| 09:19 | rangi: why about brighton? | |
| 09:20 | rangi | slef: ill pull :) but i sent a patch upstream ... silence |
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| 09:20 | rangi | worth trying again |
| 09:20 | and brighton is where the catalyst UK offices are | |
| 09:20 | slef | you or me? |
| 09:21 | oic. Brighton is the only UK place with a green MP | |
| 09:21 | rangi | (staffed with all nzers on their OE currently :)) |
| 09:21 | yeah one of them was over sounds like a nice place | |
| 09:22 | i just thought if it was close and you thought it would be a good idea, id try and get you all to meet sometime, they arent doing any koha work but lots of drupal, moodle and mahara | |
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| 09:24 | slef | OE? |
| 09:25 | rangi | Overseas Experience |
| 09:25 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_experience | |
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| 09:28 | mib_sun | hi koha |
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| 09:31 | slef | hi mib_sun |
| 09:31 | mib_sun | slef: In koha can I keep the book price in different currency format?? |
| 09:33 | for eg. some books have the price in US dollar, some others in pound, and indian rupees | |
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| 09:34 | cait1 | hi #koha |
| 09:35 | mib_sun | when I am using a symbol in the 'Cost, normal purchase price' field it is saving as 0.00 |
| 09:39 | slef | mib_sun: In general, administration: currencies and I think whatever has exchange rate 1.00 is the default, and that is what the book price should be stored in. I think this could be done better, but most book data isn't very clean with this, so the incentive isn't great. |
| 09:39 | I suspect we should support a three-letter currency code and then a price, but I've not seen book data like that yet. | |
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| 09:42 | rangi | hi cait1, on the train? |
| 09:43 | cait1 | yep, finally |
| 09:43 | but they cancelled all reservations | |
| 09:43 | got a seat and I am very happy about it | |
| 09:43 | cait1 is now known as cait | |
| 09:44 | * cait | waves to slef |
| 09:45 | * slef | waves at cait |
| 09:45 | * magnuse | waves to slef and cait and rangi |
| 09:47 | cait | :) |
| 09:47 | god dag magnuse! :) | |
| 09:47 | magnuse | guten tag cait |
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| 09:52 | druthb | o/ |
| 09:52 | magnuse | \o |
| 09:52 | rangi | hi druthb |
| 09:53 | druthb | hi, magnus and rangi! :) |
| 09:54 | Oak | Haere Mai druthb |
| 09:55 | magnuse | hiya druthb |
| 09:55 | druthb | :) |
| 09:56 | * druthb | is feelin' the love this mornin'. |
| 09:56 | mib_sun | ya slef. then to store the book price I have to convert the price to a currency format I have set in , isn't it? but it is very difficult.. |
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| 10:08 | cait | hi druthb :) |
| 10:12 | rangi | cait: will you eat a Pfannkuchen in berlin? |
| 10:17 | cait | I can try |
| 10:18 | rangi | heh |
| 10:19 | cait | but I think it's the same you can get elsewhere as berliner |
| 10:19 | rangi | yep |
| 10:20 | but because its berlin, they dont call them that | |
| 10:21 | cait | after I missed out on the pain au chocolat... least I can do is eat a pfannkuchen |
| 10:36 | magnuse | cait: and go back to france to get some pain au chocolate... ;-) |
| 10:37 | cait | sounds like a good plan |
| 10:37 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 10:57 | * magnuse | wanders outside to have lunch in the sun |
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| 11:00 | Oak | \o |
| 11:03 | druthb | o/ |
| 11:03 | Oak | Whānau |
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| 11:39 | Oak | Haere Mai Whānau |
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| 11:58 | cait | hmpf |
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| 12:04 | Oak | Haere Mai cait |
| 12:04 | Whakarongo, e noho, and turituri. | |
| 12:05 | cait | hi Oak |
| 12:05 | * cait | waves from the train |
| 12:05 | cait | ? |
| 12:05 | Oak | when you get back check this out: http://christchurchcitylibrari[…]/Maori/TeReoKete/ |
| 12:06 | and pull your hand inside from the window. it's dangerous | |
| 12:07 | druthb | lol |
| 12:07 | Oak | :) |
| 12:07 | * druthb | better watch out....Oak is feelin' sassy today. |
| 12:07 | Oak | hehe |
| 12:08 | cait | :) |
| 12:09 | * cait | likes a sassy Oak |
| 12:09 | cait | but no open windows in this train, trying to freeze us with aircon |
| 12:09 | Oak | oh well |
| 12:10 | ah, so that's why you looked blue | |
| 12:11 | i thought it was some new shade of blush on | |
| 12:11 | i think that's what it's called | |
| 12:11 | druthb | hm....a blue blush....I wonder if my cosmetics store has that. They might; the gothy punk kids go there. |
| 12:12 | magnuse | hehe |
| 12:12 | Oak | :) |
| 12:13 | cait | hehe |
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| 12:14 | magnuse | kia ora NateC and oleonard |
| 12:14 | oleonard | Hi |
| 12:14 | NateC | Morning! |
| 12:14 | or Afternoon! | |
| 12:14 | or Evening! | |
| 12:14 | :) | |
| 12:14 | * cait | waves |
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| 12:19 | Oak | stop waving cait. that guy sitting opposite is looking at you suspiciously |
| 12:20 | cait | ok |
| 12:20 | * cait | stops and tries to act normal |
| 12:20 | Oak | pfft, like that will work |
| 12:20 | cait | hehe |
| 12:21 | no, probably not | |
| 12:21 | Oak | :) |
| 12:25 | * druthb | likes seeing a sassy, happy Oak, too. |
| 12:26 | * cait | suspects that acting normal makes her even more suspicious... |
| 12:26 | cait | what shall I do? |
| 12:27 | Oak | okay cait, go ahead, start waving at people again |
| 12:28 | well druthb , I can't kill bugs (no Perl skills at present). so I might as well cheer people up whenever I can... | |
| 12:28 | druthb | :) |
| 12:33 | Oak | nah not people. friends! |
| 12:34 | kind of. | |
| 12:34 | magnuse | family! |
| 12:34 | Oak | yes! |
| 12:35 | * cait | waves slowly |
| 12:35 | druthb | :D |
| 12:35 | cait | hm |
| 12:35 | I think this is a lost case | |
| 12:35 | Oak | yes cait, now you just look like a sick smurf |
| 12:35 | waving slowly | |
| 12:36 | you know smurf right? | |
| 12:36 | they were blue | |
| 12:37 | cait | hmpf! |
| 12:37 | * cait | blames Oak |
| 12:39 | Oak | :) so how long before you reach home? |
| 12:45 | cait | schlümpfe |
| 12:45 | Oak | yes, blue schl�mpfe |
| 12:46 | magnuse | ooh, that does not sound nice! |
| 12:46 | what schl�mpfe = smurf? | |
| 12:46 | Oak | that's what translate.google.com said |
| 12:46 | cait | :) |
| 12:47 | magnuse | and google images agrees |
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| 12:49 | cait | yep |
| 12:49 | I had a smurf house and smurfs to play wiht... must still be somewhere in the attic | |
| 12:49 | Oak: on my way to bibliothekartag now - I think it will about 5 pm, 2 more hours | |
| 12:50 | Oak | hmm i see |
| 12:52 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6464] Add inconsistence check for '%s' count in tmpl_process3.pl <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6464> / [Bug 6291] Cart printing truncated in Firefox <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6291> |
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| 13:15 | cait | back |
| 13:17 | Oak | oh good |
| 13:18 | aren't you tired? | |
| 13:19 | oh you meant back after disconnecting | |
| 13:21 | cait | yes :) |
| 13:21 | and tired - yes | |
| 13:22 | magnuse | how long is the trip? |
| 13:22 | Oak | ~90 more minutes... I guess |
| 13:23 | cait | right |
| 13:23 | but isn't it late where you are? | |
| 13:23 | Oak | nah, 18:30 |
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| 13:24 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 13:24 | sekjal | morning, #koha |
| 13:24 | druthb | hi, Brooke. :) |
| 13:24 | Oak | Oh hello Brooke. Whakarongo, e noho, and turituri. |
| 13:25 | Brooke | :D |
| 13:25 | magnuse | hiya Brooke |
| 13:26 | Oak | cait, electricity here will go out from 19:00 to 20:00 |
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| 13:30 | Oak | i was just kidding Brooke you don't have to turituri. |
| 13:30 | Brooke | hehehe |
| 13:30 | who knows | |
| 13:30 | maybe you were ready to recite an epic. | |
| 13:30 | Oak | hehe |
| 13:30 | lol | |
| 13:32 | druthb | wahanui: who is Brooke's sugar mama? |
| 13:32 | wahanui | it has been said that Brooke's sugar mama is druthb. |
| 13:32 | druthb | lol |
| 13:32 | what I get for buying her ice cream, I guess. | |
| 13:33 | Brooke | you're awful. |
| 13:33 | druthb | :P |
| 13:33 | Brooke | it was his *standard* gig. |
| 13:33 | druthb | Oh, I'm sure. And being in Dupont, I'm sure he gets to use it a lot. |
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| 13:36 | Brooke | 0/ |
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| 13:39 | Oak | hmm, looks like e.t.'s head turned 90� |
| 13:40 | oleonard | Janusz is going to town on T:T fixes. |
| 13:40 | Brooke | sweet |
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| 13:44 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6468] Authorities browsing error in OPAC <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6468> |
| 13:45 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
| 13:45 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 13:46 | * cait | waves again |
| 13:46 | oleonard | is today particularly quote #123ish wizzyrea ? |
| 13:46 | * Oak | waves to cait |
| 13:47 | wizzyrea | hehe yea |
| 13:47 | Oak | passing through tunnels cait ? |
| 13:48 | cait | no, connection in tunnels ispretty good most of the time |
| 13:48 | Oak | hm |
| 13:48 | * cait | waves at wizzyrea |
| 13:49 | * wizzyrea | waves at Cait |
| 13:49 | wizzyrea | hiya! |
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| 13:54 | magnuse | o/ |
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| 14:08 | * druthb | waves at wizzyrea and cait and Oak and magnuse. Doesn't she look silly doing that? |
| 14:08 | magnuse | nah |
| 14:08 | cait | would say you fit in |
| 14:17 | Brooke | yes |
| 14:17 | fit in is perfectly fine | |
| 14:17 | ARGH! | |
| 14:17 | not a question | |
| 14:17 | wizzyrea | forget fit in |
| 14:17 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot fit in |
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| 14:18 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 14:33 | cait | hi Brooke :) |
| 14:34 | Brooke | :) |
| 14:34 | cait | t |
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| 14:44 | wizzyrea | imagemagick-- |
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| 15:01 | cait | berlin! |
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| 15:08 | * druthb | waves to rhcl |
| 15:09 | rhcl | hihi |
| 15:12 | Harmony Bay Gourmet Blueberry Cobbler seasonal coffee is quite good, despite my penchant for plain old good quality black coffee. | |
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| 15:15 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:24 | rhcl | wizzyrea: we need a SMUG or OSDUG for Koha |
| 15:25 | * druthb | hasn't heard of SMUG in a couple of years...wow |
| 15:26 | rhcl | Well, it is gone, right, and has been for a couple of years? |
| 15:26 | I think the last I heard was they were disbanding, but maybe I'm wrong. | |
| 15:26 | druthb | I don't know. It's been a while since I talked to Barbara Cornelius. I know they stopped having conferences a couple years ago. |
| 15:27 | rhcl | Koha needs more conferences. |
| 15:27 | SteveJ | *shudder* Not more conferences! |
| 15:28 | Brooke | no, no it does not |
| 15:28 | I would concede to more unconferences | |
| 15:28 | rhcl | does so |
| 15:28 | Brooke | and meetups |
| 15:28 | and ad hoc friends getting together thingies | |
| 15:28 | druthb | unconferences++ |
| 15:28 | Brooke | I mean let's be honest here |
| 15:29 | rhcl | ? |
| 15:29 | Brooke | we're really just looking for an avenue to |
| 15:29 | A) drink | |
| 15:29 | and B) bribe developers into making stuff for us | |
| 15:29 | so | |
| 15:29 | doesn't quite require a conference every time :P | |
| 15:29 | * druthb | chooses A, having nothing useful to bribe developers with. |
| 15:30 | SteveJ | IMO, I would rather see more at existing conferences than entirely separate conferences, such as get togethers at SLA and ALA. I suspect there are a lot of us that are heavily involved in Koha but cannot go to a separate conference for it. |
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| 15:32 | Brooke | KohaCon registration = $0 |
| 15:32 | KohaCon content = priceless | |
| 15:32 | ALA registration = a left nut | |
| 15:32 | ALA content = I could have read this. | |
| 15:32 | rhcl | Well, I always liked going to the SMUG and OSDUG conferences. And $15 for a lunch box was worth it. |
| 15:32 | oleonard | KohaCon transportation and expenses = the other nut |
| 15:32 | SteveJ | heh, so true in mana ways |
| 15:33 | Though the real value of ALA is in the divisions, not the main conference | |
| 15:33 | Brooke | owen: true but it's someplace you want to visit, and it's generally not the wrong time of year. |
| 15:34 | rhcl | Noting, of course, that those were regional events typically attended via auto and not subject to the great discomforts of the airlines and the gauntlet. |
| 15:34 | Brooke | and if you're local, lucky you. |
| 15:35 | SteveJ | Maybe we could hold one in Phoenix in August, that is a pretty good time and location for me! |
| 15:35 | rhcl | I'm in! |
| 15:35 | sekjal | more regional Koha unconferences sounds good to me. Local folks getting together, sharing ideas. support companies would do well to send representatives to help |
| 15:35 | rhcl | and money for amenities -jk |
| 15:36 | The Laura Linda Library was really impressive. | |
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| 15:38 | Brooke | o/ |
| 15:39 | rhcl | correction, Linda Hall http://www.lindahall.org/ |
| 15:42 | Brooke | ASI has a pretty good breakdown for its regional activities |
| 15:42 | and the frequency isn't uber frequent | |
| 15:42 | nosiness also helps | |
| 15:43 | if you see a familiar domain come over the listserv | |
| 15:43 | folks should feel like they can say hi and not be bit :) | |
| 15:43 | as long as there's a flow, it's a good thing | |
| 15:44 | I would just hate to see things start to edge towards silod | |
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| 15:46 | wizzyrea | anyone else get a nan% when trying to batch edit in current master? |
| 15:47 | Brooke | someone's twitter eventually linked to this and it's well worth a look. http://www.mikealrogers.com/post/on-meetups |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | is cait allowed |
| 15:52 | er | |
| 15:52 | here | |
| 15:52 | lol | |
| 15:52 | cait's always allowed | |
| 15:54 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6470] Unable to filter out actions made by kohaadmin <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6470> |
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| 16:03 | skushner | Yes, more east coast conferences...or any, would be nice! |
| 16:05 | Brooke | I offered a couple times |
| 16:05 | * Brooke | could offer again. |
| 16:05 | Brooke | DC should be easy enough for most folks. |
| 16:07 | druthb | DC_koha_unconference_and_hackfest++ |
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| 16:18 | wizzyrea | am I understanding correctly that we should be replacing $template->param('something' => 'something'); with $template->{VARS}->{'something'} |
| 16:18 | or only in certain situations | |
| 16:19 | oleonard | Oh no, I was wrong all along! Ours is the fork and Liblime's is the real Koha! |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | sigh |
| 16:21 | don't feed the troll. | |
| 16:22 | cait | wizzyrea: I think only in if conditions it's necessary |
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| 16:25 | wizzyrea | i know rangi said that there was a helper script to deal with those |
| 16:25 | but what I'm wondering is | |
| 16:25 | if it's *better* to get rid of them anywhere they stand | |
| 16:25 | as a matter of cleanup | |
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| 17:27 | * Oak | waves |
| 17:27 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 17:28 | Oak | Kia ora :) |
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| 17:29 | Oak | Haere Mai cait |
| 17:29 | Brooke | :) |
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| 17:30 | cait | hi :) |
| 17:30 | Oak | hello |
| 17:30 | E moe cait | |
| 17:30 | must be tired, no? | |
| 17:30 | cait | sometime you have to translate that for me :) |
| 17:30 | it's not that late | |
| 17:30 | 19:35 | |
| 17:31 | about to leave and find something for dinner :) | |
| 17:31 | cait is now known as cait_away | |
| 17:31 | Oak | http://christchurchcitylibrari[…]/Maori/TeReoKete/ that's all I know cait |
| 17:32 | cait_away | :) |
| 17:32 | have to go, ttyl :) | |
| 17:33 | Oak | ok |
| 17:33 | Brooke | :) |
| 17:33 | Oak | she's too kind |
| 17:33 | Brooke | http://www.maoridictionary.co.nz/ |
| 17:34 | http://www.korero.maori.nz/for[…]basics/index.html | |
| 17:34 | then there's Chris' Da's book, of course. | |
| 17:35 | Oak | Ehara mai! |
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| 17:35 | Brooke | :D |
| 17:47 | rhcl_away | wish translate.google.com did maori |
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| 18:01 | rangi | morning |
| 18:01 | rhcl_away | hey rangi |
| 18:01 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
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| 18:09 | oleonard | Working on anything fun lately rangi? |
| 18:09 | rangi | gotta a go live on friday |
| 18:09 | thats taking up most of my time | |
| 18:09 | but i am working on this too | |
| 18:09 | Brooke | morena |
| 18:09 | oleonard | A Koha library? |
| 18:10 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]9&hide_resolved=1 |
| 18:10 | yup, 3 prominent govt organisations using Koha as a shared solution | |
| 18:11 | Brooke | :) |
| 18:11 | good on Catalyst, as usual. | |
| 18:12 | rangi | oh and its hmm 15 days |
| 18:12 | until i fly out to the states | |
| 18:13 | my pocket is already $14usd lighter, you now have to pay to apply for a visa waiver, using the online form | |
| 18:13 | guess what the legislation that introduced the charge is called | |
| 18:13 | the 'Travel Promotion Act' | |
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| 18:13 | oleonard | US government is so messed up |
| 18:13 | rangi | orwell couldnt write it better :) |
| 18:14 | but thats ok, i get to hang out with some of my koha friends | |
| 18:14 | Brooke | I once again apologise for the actions of the rowdy group of men down the street. |
| 18:14 | wizzyrea | rowdy doesn't even begin |
| 18:15 | * oleonard | would happily buy rangi $14+ worth of beer if he could |
| 18:15 | * wizzyrea | contemplated shipping it to his hotel :P |
| 18:15 | wizzyrea | but it's difficult to ship beer out of kansas. |
| 18:17 | rangi | i think bg is making some!!! |
| 18:17 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 18:18 | * magnuse | is pretty sure there was something he wanted to ask rangi about, but now he can't remember. lucky rangi... |
| 18:18 | rangi | heh |
| 18:20 | new zealand koha | |
| 18:21 | magnuse | ah yes now i remember, we talked about a link/button for downloading backups and configfiles in the packages, but i couldn't find it... |
| 18:22 | rangi | ahh, its not in the main repo, because of that reason, it only works with the packages |
| 18:22 | magnuse | ah, ok, it's not me going blind then ;-) |
| 18:22 | rangi | but we are working on wrapping it with a syspref that the packages set, so that it can be |
| 18:22 | magnuse | very cool |
| 18:23 | rangi | its in the catalyst repo tho, i can get eythian to show you if you like |
| 18:23 | magnuse | thanks, but there's no hurry |
| 18:23 | rangi | righto |
| 18:23 | magnuse | plenty of other things i *ought* to do first... |
| 18:25 | rangi | :) |
| 18:26 | someone has last word syndrome, so i think we would be best served to disengage | |
| 18:26 | magnuse | hehe |
| 18:26 | rangi | we all have better things to do |
| 18:26 | Brooke | I submit that we're just having a battle of wits with an unarmed person. |
| 18:26 | rangi | and in the scheme of things it doesnt matter |
| 18:27 | haters gonna hate | |
| 18:27 | rhcl_away | we need to stock rangi up w/ some bacon, as I recall us talking about it. Couple of cases of Sam Adams and a good case of Armor Star premium bacon... |
| 18:27 | rangi | hehe, cant bring bacon back |
| 18:28 | rhcl_away | even fully cured, in sealed packages? |
| 18:28 | Brooke | oh no |
| 18:28 | rangi | hmmm maybe in sealed |
| 18:28 | Brooke | customs beagles would have a field day, methinks. |
| 18:28 | rangi | but i wouldnt rate my chances |
| 18:29 | rhcl_away | well, commercially sealed like in the store? |
| 18:29 | wizzyrea | yea, don't feed the trolls. |
| 18:29 | rhcl_away | give the beagles some Gains Burgers, they'll let it slide |
| 18:29 | Brooke | >:) |
| 18:29 | I like the cut of your jib, homie g laws. | |
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| 18:31 | magnuse | those border control people were pretty serious about keeping strange edibles out of nz, i think... |
| 18:32 | rangi | yeah, all food has to be declared |
| 18:33 | normally they take anything primaryish (like bacon, honey, meat) off ya | |
| 18:33 | rhcl_away | daem foreign heathen food, corrupts the virtues of the native young |
| 18:33 | magnuse | hehe |
| 18:36 | ouch... needs signoff = 73 | |
| 18:36 | rangi | dang we had it near 66 for a little while |
| 18:36 | a bunch are easy pickings | |
| 18:37 | TT ones | |
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| 18:41 | conan | hello everybody, good afternoon |
| 18:41 | Brooke | hi |
| 18:42 | magnuse | hola conan |
| 18:53 | oleonard | The latest patch on Bug 5436 doesn't apply for me |
| 18:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5436 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, guillaume.hatt, ASSIGNED , Extended patron attributes display improvements |
| 18:53 | rangi | yeah its failed qa oleonard |
| 18:53 | oleonard | Oh I didn't notice. I thought you were asking for testers. |
| 18:54 | rangi | unfortunately nope |
| 18:55 | ok time to feed the kids and make lunches | |
| 18:55 | bbiab | |
| 18:56 | wizzyrea | git-bz++ |
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| 18:57 | * magnuse | must get around to testing that one of these days... |
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| 19:18 | magnuse | g'night #koha |
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| 19:26 | conan | what's the protocol for .po changes inclusion? do we manage the same way as code bugs? |
| 19:26 | I mean, create a bug report, attach patch, etc? | |
| 19:27 | can't find anything in the wiki | |
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| 19:27 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 19:28 | cait | conan: do your changes on translate.koha-community.org |
| 19:29 | it will be pulled from there into the repo | |
| 19:29 | if you need your files updated - write fredericd | |
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| 19:30 | Brooke | o/ |
| 19:30 | cait | :) |
| 19:30 | hi Brooke | |
| 19:30 | Brooke | I've been here, I was saying hi to Ccorrales ;) |
| 19:30 | conan | cait: my changes are not translations, but fixes to unappropriate number of %s's |
| 19:30 | cait | there are scripts that do create those files and are used for updating |
| 19:31 | conan | it's too cumbersome to find them in translate.koha... |
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| 19:31 | cait | ah |
| 19:31 | you can upload a file | |
| 19:31 | ask fredericd to give you permission | |
| 19:31 | upload and overwrite what's in there | |
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| 19:31 | cait | I do that too, grab the file, correct errors in poedit (which is good for finding them!) and upload back to pootle |
| 19:32 | or did you mean the en side of things? | |
| 19:32 | conan | cait: I've been looking for him since a couple of days now, are you telling me this kind of stuff doesn't get managed with bugzilla? |
| 19:32 | cait | correct |
| 19:32 | write him an email | |
| 19:32 | or write to translate-koha list | |
| 19:33 | conan | cait: my issues arose when I tried to do a spanish install for 3.4.x, I didn't downloaded anything from the translating site |
| 19:33 | cait | hope i understood your problem correctly |
| 19:33 | ah | |
| 19:33 | perhaps try again with the file from pootle | |
| 19:33 | you can wget the po files from there | |
| 19:33 | I normally always get a fresh copy, because I update them all the time, fix typos and such | |
| 19:34 | conan | just tried to do an install and translate script spitted some unclear error, so I started to look into it and with help from here I noticed the problem were the %s |
| 19:34 | cait | before a release the updated files will be integrated into koha |
| 19:34 | conan | so I fixed those |
| 19:34 | but I don't know what to do next | |
| 19:34 | cait | ok |
| 19:34 | you fixed in the translated strings? | |
| 19:34 | conan | nope... |
| 19:34 | well., one or two | |
| 19:34 | but the main fixing was in the %s's | |
| 19:35 | fredericd: you around? | |
| 19:35 | rangi | back |
| 19:35 | cait | conan |
| 19:35 | Brooke | welcome back |
| 19:35 | cait | the %s you fixed, where there in the en strings or in your translated strings |
| 19:35 | conan | cait: |
| 19:35 | cait | where = were |
| 19:36 | did you fix the po files or the scripts creating them? | |
| 19:36 | conan | rangi: your kids eat fast |
| 19:36 | cait: po file | |
| 19:36 | s | |
| 19:36 | cait | ok, this is not managed via bugzilla |
| 19:37 | conan | cait: the %s were broken mostly for the translated strings, but there were also a couple in the english strings too |
| 19:37 | cait | and in the po files, you did change the %s in the translated strings? |
| 19:37 | rangi | I get them breakfast, then make lunches and then my wife takes over |
| 19:37 | conan | good |
| 19:37 | so, what's the protocol then? | |
| 19:38 | cait | honestly |
| 19:38 | conan | cait: translated and untranslated |
| 19:38 | cait | I am confused |
| 19:38 | conan | cait: let me paste you a git log -p |
| 19:38 | cait | for the things you fixed in the translated strings: upload back to pootle |
| 19:38 | conan | gimme a second... |
| 19:38 | rangi | email koha-translate |
| 19:38 | cait | for the things fixed in the en part - those need to be corrected in the template files or the script needs changes |
| 19:38 | for the script > bugzilla | |
| 19:38 | for the templates > bugzilla | |
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| 19:39 | cait | do what rangi says |
| 19:39 | rangi | and/or fredericd, some ppl have been fixing things with %s already |
| 19:39 | be good not to double up | |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea: u around? | |
| 19:41 | did u forget to change the status of bug 6467 ? | |
| 19:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6467 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Add shelving location to checkin results screen |
| 19:42 | pastebot | "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "3 commits modifying es-ES po files" (294 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/75 |
| 19:42 | conan | there |
| 19:43 | rangi | psst, translate list :) |
| 19:44 | conan | rangi: that's what I was asking, thanks, writing them now |
| 19:49 | rangi | cool |
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| 19:54 | rangi | ok my stop |
| 19:54 | back soon | |
| 20:04 | back | |
| 20:04 | cait | :) |
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| 20:12 | rangi | wizzyrea++ |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | oh for fixing the bug? |
| 20:12 | >.> | |
| 20:12 | rangi | yup |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | it's important to note that git bz doesn't do that bit for you :P |
| 20:13 | damn shame, imo | |
| 20:13 | * cait | cait_afk |
| 20:13 | rangi | well we are the only ppl in thw world probably who use those fields |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | truf |
| 20:13 | rangi | but, no reason why we cant make it for us |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | something like git bz attach -s [for signoff] xxxx HEAD |
| 20:14 | rangi | something like that |
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| 20:14 | cait_afk | t |
| 20:14 | hm | |
| 20:14 | afk | |
| 20:24 | Brooke | right, time to do other forms of nothing. |
| 20:24 | rangi | :) |
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| 21:02 | conan | what could be the reason that I got a string translated in the .po file but it's not applied to the pointed file? |
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| 21:03 | rangi | the .po file doesnt match, thats one possibile reason |
| 21:03 | ie the .po file hasnt been updated from the templates recently | |
| 21:05 | conan | but it correctly points to the right line number in the 'en' file |
| 21:06 | it's the 'es' file which gets screwed | |
| 21:06 | pastebot | "conan" at 190.220.130.20 pasted "translation inconsistence" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/76 |
| 21:06 | sekjal | goodnight, #koha! |
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| 21:06 | conan | sekjal: bye |
| 21:07 | rangi | no idea |
| 21:07 | ah yes i do | |
| 21:07 | look at hte strings | |
| 21:07 | <a1>Retrasos</a> | |
| 21:08 | theres no <a1>Overdues</a> bit in the english srting | |
| 21:08 | conan | it's the a1, right? |
| 21:08 | rangi | thats my guess |
| 21:08 | conan | but it's the bad html or all the string? |
| 21:08 | rangi | ah also |
| 21:08 | #, fuzzy, c-format | |
| 21:08 | its fuzzy | |
| 21:09 | fuzzy strings dont get applied | |
| 21:09 | conan | fuzzy strings...ah!!! |
| 21:09 | thanks | |
| 21:09 | now I know what to do with all those random english strings appearing everywhere | |
| 21:09 | rangi | :) |
| 21:11 | conan | can I tell translate script to just install a file? |
| 21:12 | rangi | and that email right there from paul, negates all of the bs about biblibre being like liblime |
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| 21:15 | Space_Librarian | morning #koha |
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| 21:15 | cait | hi Space_Librarian :) |
| 21:16 | Space_Librarian | Hey cait! |
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| 21:39 | cait | good night #koha |
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| 21:54 | rangi | hi sijobl |
| 21:58 | sijobl | hey chrissa |
| 21:58 | hows it? | |
| 21:58 | rangi | fair to middling ;) |
| 21:58 | sijobl | your colleagues did me proud the other day, I'm now a cacert assurer |
| 21:58 | rangi | oh sweet |
| 21:58 | sijobl | waved my passport at random catalyst staff :-) |
| 21:58 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:59 | its the perlmongers geek pub quiz here, next tuesday evening | |
| 21:59 | http://wellington.pm.org/ | |
| 21:59 | if the family doesnt have your attention ;) | |
| 22:01 | sijobl | mmm, tuesday evening is dog club night |
| 22:01 | I have sole charge | |
| 22:02 | rangi | ah bummer |
| 22:03 | sijobl | slightly alarmingly, I knew all but one of the people Matt wheeled in to sign for me |
| 22:03 | * sijobl | needs to leave town |
| 22:03 | rangi | heh |
| 22:03 | was it all the level 2 people? | |
| 22:04 | grant, ian etc? | |
| 22:04 | sijobl | yup |
| 22:04 | miroslav, ruthven | |
| 22:04 | rangi | ahh yep |
| 22:04 | the old timers :-) | |
| 22:04 | sijobl | ruthven appears to keep his passport at work, so as to make you assure him |
| 22:05 | rangi | now thats a smart idea |
| 22:05 | sijobl | certainly seems to be how you get yourself to guru assurer status |
| 22:05 | rangi | i should get you to sign my gpg key sometime too |
| 22:05 | sijobl | I should get me a GPG key first |
| 22:06 | rangi | that too :) |
| 22:06 | sijobl | I did set it up years ago |
| 22:06 | but I can assure you for cacert, if you want that | |
| 22:06 | rangi | :) |
| 22:06 | sijobl | although why you'd need me when there's a gazillion otherse at catalyst who can do the job for you |
| 22:07 | rangi | yeah we have a few now, francois did a talk on it at pizza thursday, that bumped up the numbers i think |
| 22:07 | or maybe it wasnt francois, someone did anyway | |
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| 22:10 | rangi | vea sigoi ronald (I hope thats at least close to one of the languages they speak in the solomons :)) |
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| 22:39 | conan | gotta run now, rangi I'll reply your last mail to koha-translate at home if children let me, I'll like to look further into finding a fine way to share translation development |
| 22:39 | bye now | |
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| 22:57 | druthb | o/ |
| 23:05 | rangi | heya druthb |
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| 23:25 | druthb | rangi++ |
| 23:25 | Thanx for the push, rangi! :) | |
| 23:25 | rangi | np |
| 23:25 | im stealing some easy ones out of the signed-off queue as well | |
| 23:25 | leave sekjal the tricky ones :) | |
| 23:26 | oleonard | Reinstalling koha on my laptop, having trouble with zebra as usual |
| 23:26 | druthb | :D |
| 23:26 | oleonard | I've imported MARC records, but zebra doesn't seem to be finding them |
| 23:26 | rangi | and youve got the cron job running? |
| 23:27 | oleonard | Right now I'm just trying to do it manually |
| 23:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 282 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 23:27 | rangi | ahh |
| 23:28 | and zebrasrv is running? | |
| 23:28 | and is running as the same user, you are rebuilding the indexes with? | |
| 23:28 | * rangi | asks all the simple questions first |
| 23:28 | * oleonard | doesn't do this often enough to be able to skip the simple questions |
| 23:29 | oleonard | I guess I'm not certain zebrasrv is running |
| 23:31 | I guess not >:( | |
| 23:31 | rangi | ah ps axf | grep "zebrasrv" |
| 23:31 | heh | |
| 23:31 | that'd do it | |
| 23:33 | oleonard | ...but I'm not sure why not |
| 23:33 | rangi | you have the init.d job set up ? |
| 23:34 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5268: Change all occurances of 'debar' to 'restrict' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]685e2678dc6bd8ef6> |
| 23:34 | oleonard | I see koha-zebra-daemon in /etc/init.d/ |
| 23:34 | rangi | so sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start |
| 23:34 | does that do anything? | |
| 23:35 | oleonard | "starting zebra server" |
| 23:36 | rangi | and then nothing |
| 23:36 | eythian | does the process actually start? |
| 23:36 | rangi | ok, can you do me a flavour |
| 23:36 | have a look at that file | |
| 23:36 | oleonard | koha-zebra-daemon? |
| 23:36 | rangi | yep |
| 23:36 | oleonard | okay |
| 23:37 | rangi | what USER and GROUP does it have? |
| 23:37 | should be up the top | |
| 23:37 | oleonard | koha for both |
| 23:37 | rangi | and that user exists? |
| 23:37 | oleonard | Yes |
| 23:37 | rangi | ok next bit, what does it have for RUNDIR and LOCKDIR |
| 23:38 | oleonard | RUNDIR=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb |
| 23:38 | LOCKDIR=/home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb | |
| 23:38 | rangi | user koha has persmissions to both of those? |
| 23:38 | persimons | |
| 23:38 | i hate those things | |
| 23:39 | persimmon even | |
| 23:39 | oleonard | How do I check these persimmons you speak of ;) |
| 23:40 | rangi | ls -l home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/run/ |
| 23:40 | or | |
| 23:40 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persimmon | |
| 23:40 | :) | |
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| 23:41 | oleonard | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2011-05-04 16:10 zebradb |
| 23:41 | rangi | thats the problem |
| 23:41 | chown -R koha:koha /home/oleonard/koha-dev/var/run/zebradb | |
| 23:42 | ditto for the lock | |
| 23:42 | try running your rebuild_zebra.pl -r (as user koha of course) | |
| 23:42 | then starting zebrasrv | |
| 23:42 | (or other way round, doesnt really matter) | |
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| 23:45 | rangi | heya pianohacker |
| 23:45 | pianohacker | hey chris |
| 23:48 | oleonard | Thanks chris, it looks like it's working now |
| 23:48 | rangi | perfecto |
| 23:48 | go have a persimmon now ;) | |
| 23:48 | oleonard | There should be a "had to ask how to get zebra running again" tip jar |
| 23:49 | My grandfather loved persimmons but he could never get his little tree to produce many | |
| 23:50 | Hey, search results. | |
| 23:53 | rangi | :) |
| 23:53 | i dont like them or quinces | |
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| 23:58 | oleonard | You couldn't buy a persimmon or quince to save your life around here |
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