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00:04 | conan | hum... what about the 'ugly hack' in sub _current_language ? |
00:04 | the one with a six line comment saying FIXME | |
00:04 | could that has something to do with it? | |
00:05 | rangi | no |
00:05 | It is | |
00:05 | # used only by C4::XSLT::XSLTParse4Display; | |
00:05 | magnuse | weirdness: i looked at the opac, the language chooser was showing norwegian as selected but the page was showing in english, i did "die $lang;" just before "return ( $theme, $lang );" in themelanguage() and it showed "en" as the active language. then i removed the die, chose english and then norwegian and put the die back, this time it told me nb-NO as the language. so the language chooser is not in tune with themelanguage()... |
00:05 | rangi | yep, do you have memcached running? |
00:05 | magnuse | nope |
00:06 | rangi | right, so that makes one less thing to worry about |
00:07 | magnuse | memcached, you mean? |
00:07 | rangi | yep |
00:07 | we know its not being cached | |
00:07 | so dont have to worry about that | |
00:08 | just have to track down why the language chooser was saying nb | |
00:08 | conan | rangi: _current_language is being called from themelanguage, on the langauge selection foreach |
00:08 | rangi | no its not |
00:08 | conan | ok, I have to look at this properly tomorrow |
00:08 | rangi | $_current_language = $lang; |
00:08 | its setting it | |
00:09 | setting a variable, not calling the function | |
00:09 | conan | my ssh is transmitting with timbals |
00:10 | rangi: you're right, and I should go eat and sleep :) | |
00:10 | I'm talking nonsense | |
00:10 | magnuse | sorry rangi, i gotta catch some sleep too, it's 2 am (but the sun is shining on some of the houses in the neighbourhood ;-) |
00:10 | conan | will do the warn pester tomorrow |
00:10 | magnuse | i will definitely be looking more at this! |
00:11 | rangi++ | |
00:11 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
00:11 | conan | see you tomorrow, bye now |
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02:39 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6190] Custom field removal from patron entry screens <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6190> |
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02:39 | Brooke | 0/ |
02:40 | druthb | o/ |
02:40 | rangi | hey you two |
02:40 | druthb | :D |
02:40 | rangi | http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]0/in/photostream/ |
02:41 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]8/in/photostream/ | |
02:41 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]6/in/photostream/ | |
02:41 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]6/in/photostream/ | |
02:41 | Brooke | hehhe |
02:41 | so | |
02:41 | fact | |
02:41 | dell racks do not unlock from the inside. | |
02:41 | rangi | what happens when you leave a rack outside the sysadmin lair |
02:42 | ibeardslee | Brooke: oh? and how did you find that out? |
02:42 | Brooke | I didn't but Andy did >:) |
02:42 | rangi | ibeardslee: thats where she lives |
02:42 | Soupermanito | i want that "dont mess whit a time lord" one |
02:42 | Brooke | ha! That would be an upgrade in both cleanliness and square footage! |
02:43 | rangi | like the guy in owhiro bay, who built a house out of shipping containers |
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02:51 | rangi | hiya pianohacker |
02:51 | pianohacker | hey chris |
02:51 | druthb | hi, pianohacker. :) |
02:51 | @karma pianohacker | |
02:51 | huginn` | druthb: Karma for "pianohacker" has been increased 35 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 35. |
02:51 | pianohacker | and druthb |
02:51 | druthb | pianohacker++ |
02:51 | Brooke | hooray |
02:51 | pianohacker | hmm |
02:51 | Hi brooke | |
02:51 | pianohacker-- | |
02:51 | huginn` | pianohacker: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
02:51 | pianohacker | haha, was wondering |
02:51 | druthb | nope. |
02:52 | pianohacker | man, the bots got pissed off |
02:52 | Brooke | *someone* busted that loophole. |
02:52 | eythian | @karma < |
02:52 | huginn` | eythian: < has neutral karma. |
02:52 | druthb | Otherwise, I'd be down the cellar somewhere. |
02:52 | eythian | @karma <! |
02:52 | huginn` | eythian: Karma for "<!" has been increased 4 times and decreased 109 times for a total karma of -105. |
02:52 | * Brooke | leers at druthb |
02:52 | pianohacker | heh |
02:52 | <!++ | |
02:52 | rangi | @karma |
02:52 | huginn` | rangi: Highest karma: "rangi" (342), "oleonard" (280), and "gmcharlt" (257). Lowest karma: "<!" (-104), "failed" (-56), and "-" (-36). You (rangi) are ranked 1 out of 1511. |
02:53 | pianohacker | has anyone else had a linux machine suddenly fade to black and present a lovely /bin/ash (initramfs) prompt? |
02:53 | rangi | ppl nned to stop pasting in html :) |
02:53 | pianohacker | well after booting up |
02:53 | wait, what? | |
02:53 | wahanui | it has been said that wait, is it only in items? |
02:53 | pianohacker | -++ |
02:53 | @karma - | |
02:53 | huginn` | pianohacker: Karma for "-" has been increased 3 times and decreased 38 times for a total karma of -35. |
02:53 | pianohacker | ...well then |
02:54 | rangi | havent had that happen to me pianohacker |
02:55 | pianohacker | perhaps unloading/reloading my wireless module isn't the best way to deal with this godforsaken router |
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02:55 | Brooke | 0/ |
02:55 | rangi | heya NateC |
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03:13 | rangi | brr, the aircon has gone crazy cold |
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03:25 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris |
03:25 | rangi | hiya Amit_Gupta |
03:25 | Amit_Gupta | Good morning koha ;) |
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03:54 | pianohacker | sorry, wireless is crazy |
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04:23 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5602] Improve configurability of package building scripts <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5602> |
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05:28 | SpaceLibrarian_home | namaste kmkale |
05:30 | kmkale | Namaste shelly |
05:30 | the car shakes too much for proper typing :( | |
05:35 | SpaceLibrarian_home | feeling better? |
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05:38 | kmkale | bit better. back on road |
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05:47 | kmkale | please consider me as a lurker for today's volunteer meeting. |
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05:47 | kmkale | network is very patchy |
05:47 | Brooke | kia ora |
05:47 | kmkale | Brooke may chair |
05:47 | hi Brooke | |
05:47 | think of the .... | |
05:48 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Hey Brooke, I think you're chairing... |
05:49 | Brooke | do we have an agenda, or is it just the wiki stuff I put up |
05:49 | * SpaceLibrarian_home | looks at Brooke blankly |
05:49 | SpaceLibrarian_home | I think it's going to be a pretty quiet meeting. |
05:49 | 3. | |
05:50 | Ignore that, I'm just dropping things. | |
05:51 | Brooke | would we like to start now or wait the 5 mins? |
05:54 | * Brooke | watches the clock. |
05:54 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Considering I think it's going to be the two of us taking over the world and kmkale lurking... mebbe. Prove me wrong koha! :) |
05:54 | Brooke | Shotgun! |
05:55 | SpaceLibrarian_home | heh |
05:55 | Brooke | #startmeeting |
05:55 | huginn` | Meeting started Thu Jun 2 05:59:53 2011 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
05:55 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | |
05:55 | Brooke | #topic introductins |
05:55 | introductions even | |
05:56 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Shelley Gurney, Catalyst NZ |
05:58 | Brooke | so here's a question? |
05:58 | we want to do this thing, or meet another time? | |
05:59 | SpaceLibrarian_home | meet another time? |
05:59 | Brooke | or do things via email and meet later? |
05:59 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Brooke + |
06:00 | Brooke | #endmeeting |
06:00 | huginn` | Meeting ended Thu Jun 2 06:04:47 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
06:00 | Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-06-02-05.59.html | |
06:00 | Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]1-06-02-05.59.txt | |
06:00 | Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]02-05.59.log.html | |
06:00 | Brooke | I think we'll just have kmkale set a convenient time |
06:00 | SpaceLibrarian_home | Yep |
06:00 | Brooke | I'd like to see a heap of Indian involvement |
06:01 | SpaceLibrarian_home | I can get up in the middle of the night again. |
06:01 | But I agree | |
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07:07 | slef | oops, timezones 1, slef 0 |
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07:29 | Amit_Gupta | heya slef |
07:29 | slef | hi Amit_Gupta |
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07:36 | cait | morning :) |
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07:56 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait morning ;) |
08:04 | slef | ok, why is this a bad idea, or not? ($truncated)=($num =~ /^(\d+\.\d{${places}})/); |
08:05 | and 2. are you scared yet? | |
08:06 | rangi | thats pretty much always a bad idea |
08:06 | slef | rangi: I think so but why? That's what I had a hard time justifying. |
08:07 | rangi | well i guess if places is sufficiently huge its not so bad |
08:07 | is it for display, or are you using the value for calculation? | |
08:07 | i think id rather round, than truncate | |
08:08 | i bet if i went back through my maths degree, i could find a better reason why its bad | |
08:08 | but mostly now it just feels wrong :) | |
08:09 | slef | I'm not using it for anything; and truncation is desired rather than rounding |
08:10 | I agree on it feeling wrong, but I also did a maths degree | |
08:10 | rangi | i guess if its not being used for anything then its fine |
08:11 | yeah mine was pure math, not that new fangled calculas thing where you can deal with imprecise numbers :-) | |
08:11 | slef | I think it leaves you vulnerable to perl's number base being changed, if that can be set globally (can't find it at a glance) |
08:11 | ah well, mine was statistics, where you just assume all the errors cancel out enough | |
08:12 | I did pure maths options in year 3, though. | |
08:12 | rangi | i only did stats up to year 2 |
08:12 | then it was group and set theory | |
08:12 | fun | |
08:13 | slef | Mine was process of elimination... drop applied, then reduce pure to a minor. |
08:13 | rangi | ahh |
08:13 | slef | Yeah, I must have a couple of books on fields and groups somewhere in this office. |
08:13 | rangi | i did maths as a minor in my compsci degree, then didnt want to get a job :) |
08:14 | so cross credited a year to a BA, and finished my math major, and added a maori studies major | |
08:14 | the BA was a lot more fun than the BSc | |
08:14 | it helped that i was finally old enough to get into pubs too :) | |
08:14 | slef | I'm never sure of the worth of compsci for developers <fx:runs-away /> |
08:15 | rangi | heh |
08:15 | slef | errr... NZ has age restrictions on pubs? |
08:15 | rangi | in student towns they tend to id you at the door |
08:15 | and it was 20 to drink back then, it 18 now | |
08:20 | slef | just checked and I can't find a legal age restriction on entry to a pub here... of course, some pubs put a 18 or 21 (or I think 25 sometimes) limit but that's up to the landlord |
08:20 | rangi | is there a legal drinking age? |
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08:21 | slef | yeah, 18 |
08:21 | rangi | i think i could have entered if they had let me legally, but basically they just id everyone and if you arent legal drinking age they just dont let you in |
08:21 | slef | wow, that's a bit anti-social |
08:21 | so what do mixed-age groups do? Just not go into pubs? | |
08:22 | rangi | ahh its only in the real studenty pubs |
08:22 | most likely they are smart to go to a nicer pub anyway :) | |
08:24 | slef | heh, debconf7 says the legal drinking age in Scotland is 5 |
08:24 | rangi | hehe |
08:24 | (The student pubs had big lines at the door, they are basically trying to find reasons not to let you in) | |
08:24 | slef | yeah, some student pubs aren't worth it |
08:26 | heh, apparently it's the same in England | |
08:26 | complicated... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L[…]inking_age#Europe | |
08:27 | drinking age in private is 5 but purchasing alcohol on behalf of a minor is illegal... homebrew FTW! | |
08:27 | rangi | heh |
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08:29 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
08:29 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.0�C (10:30 AM CEST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Steady). |
08:30 | rangi | heya cait |
08:30 | cait | hi rangi :) |
08:45 | oh | |
08:46 | google says it's father's day | |
08:47 | rangi | not here it isnt |
08:47 | not til september here | |
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08:48 | rangi | monday is queens birthday tho, (not her real birthday, we just get the first monday in june as a holiday every year) |
08:49 | cait | ah, that's a good thing |
08:49 | that it's always a monday | |
08:49 | rangi | yup |
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11:06 | Amit_Gupta | @wunder Bangalore |
11:06 | huginn` | Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 27.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. |
11:06 | Amit_Gupta | @wunder Dehradun |
11:06 | huginn` | Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 30.0�C (2:30 PM IST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa. |
11:06 | Amit_Gupta | @wunder New Delhi |
11:06 | huginn` | Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 35.0�C (4:00 PM IST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling). |
11:06 | Amit_Gupta | @wunder Mumbai |
11:06 | huginn` | Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 32.0�C (4:10 PM IST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
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11:15 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
11:15 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 17.0�C (1:00 PM CEST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Falling). |
11:16 | cait | @wunder Reutlingen |
11:16 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 26.2�C (1:20 PM CEST on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.03 in 983.0 hPa (Steady). |
11:16 | cait | ! |
11:16 | @wunder Berlin | |
11:16 | huginn` | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
11:16 | cait | @wunder Berlin Germany |
11:16 | huginn` | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
11:16 | cait | hm |
11:19 | @wunder Berlin, Germany | |
11:19 | huginn` | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
11:21 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
11:21 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 21.4�C (7:25 AM EDT on June 02, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady). |
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11:32 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6335] Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6335> |
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11:41 | conan | hello everybody |
11:46 | cait | hi conan |
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12:28 | Brooke | kia ora! |
12:28 | oleonard | Hi Brooke |
12:28 | Brooke | :) |
12:28 | cait | hi oleonard and Brooke |
12:28 | :) | |
12:28 | Brooke | oleonard = I'm up at a civilised hour. |
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12:30 | oleonard | I noticed you're here early Brooke, but I wouldn't presume to think you slept in all those other days |
12:30 | Brooke | your presumption might not be too far from the truth though ;) |
12:31 | are the kids out of school for summer? | |
12:31 | oleonard | One of three. The preschoolers go all summer. |
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12:42 | Brooke | good morning, Ian. |
12:42 | sekjal | morning, Brooke |
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12:43 | Brooke | 0/ |
12:44 | cait | :) |
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13:03 | * oleonard | is surprised about Bug 6449 |
13:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6449 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , no way to track when patron originally enrolled |
13:03 | Brooke | anchi'o |
13:03 | oleonard | I had no idea dateenrolled was overwritten by a patron renewal |
13:05 | druthb | yeah, how 'bout that... a Sirsi Symphony library spotted that. I would think Just Don't Do That would be a good answer, but it might be useful to add a datelastnewed. I can't imagine a real-world case for that, but you never know. |
13:08 | oleonard | Actually, I can't reproduce it |
13:09 | * druthb | raises an eyebrow. |
13:10 | Brooke | the plot thickens |
13:12 | oleonard | Yeah, seems to work correctly for me. |
13:12 | druthb | Interesting...on HEAD? |
13:12 | oleonard | Yes |
13:12 | * druthb | will investigate. The site lists that as a Major before go-live on the 20th. |
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13:15 | Brooke | 0/ |
13:16 | it wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility that it was closed in that flurry of bug fixing though, would it? Just never updated ticket wise? | |
13:17 | druthb | It is possible, Brooke. I thought I had found the culprit, when this first got reported, but now I'm not sure. |
13:18 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
13:18 | huginn` | gmcharlt: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg munin register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) |
13:19 | oleonard | That one always gets a laugh! |
13:19 | druthb | @quote random |
13:19 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #50: "<pianohackr|work> It is a landmine, I tell you" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 04:44 PM, December 23, 2009) |
13:19 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn`. |
13:19 | oleonard | It? |
13:20 | cait | about which bug are you talking? |
13:20 | oleonard | Bug 6449 |
13:20 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6449 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , no way to track when patron originally enrolled |
13:20 | cait | ah |
13:20 | perhaps we need a creation_date field? | |
13:20 | oleonard | that's what we have :) |
13:21 | cait | oh? |
13:21 | ah | |
13:21 | ah | |
13:21 | yeah, we have expiry date and date enrolled | |
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14:06 | conan | does someone know what's the status of the po files in http://translate.koha-community.org in relation to current master? |
14:06 | it says there that everything's translated, | |
14:07 | but I keep founding many things with mixed languages in the UI | |
14:07 | so I don't know if those files have been applied or not | |
14:08 | (I need to decide if I should sit my bottom one full week to exclusively translate or if I can dedicate some time to other stuff that's burning my ass) | |
14:17 | cait | conan: you should as fredericd |
14:21 | conan | fredericd: you around? |
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15:22 | sekjal | on current HEAD, can anyone confirm if the item's enumchron field is failing to display despite being populated? This is on catalogue/detail.pl in the staff client |
15:24 | cait | sekal there is a bug for that |
15:24 | I think ruth did a patch for that? | |
15:25 | bug 6397 | |
15:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6397 minor, P5, ---, ruth, ASSIGNED , Mis-named variable in .TT causes table cell shift |
15:26 | druthb | yep. wizzyrea signed it off. It's apparently just waiting for the QA Manager. ;-) |
15:27 | sekjal | ah, that lazy git... I'll give him a kick |
15:27 | druthb | He's not lazy! He's just overworked by that lazy lady who does migrations for ByWater. |
15:28 | sekjal | I'm kicking him regardless |
15:28 | cait | *sighs* |
15:28 | wizzyrea | sekjal I'm glad you're safe |
15:28 | * cait | hands out cookies to you both |
15:28 | cait | you are both NOT lazy |
15:28 | understood? | |
15:28 | oleonard | The term "git" loses its sting when the git we know is so powerful and useful. |
15:29 | * druthb | takes a cookie, and heads to lunch and errands. Lazily. |
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15:29 | * sekjal | also takes a cookie, and gets geared up for QA work |
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16:18 | rhcl | Hey, this is interesting. de July 11 Linux Journal, at the NZ Open Source Awards Ross Ihaka, one of the developers of R, received a lifetime achievement award from Catalyst. Didn't know that R was developed in NZ. |
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16:25 | Oak | \o |
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17:16 | gmcharlt | chris_n: may I have an acknowledgement of my 3.2.x pull request sent 5/26, please? |
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17:19 | chris_n | gmcharlt: got it, tnx |
17:19 | gmcharlt | chris_n: thanks - wasn't sure if that is a useful way to deal with consolidated backports of bugfixes |
17:19 | chris_n | will push in a bit along with a few other's |
17:20 | actually that's even easier than a patch :-) | |
17:20 | wizzyrea | hi chris_n :) |
17:20 | chris_n | heya wizzyrea |
17:20 | wahanui | wizzyrea is a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet |
17:20 | wizzyrea | nice to see you |
17:21 | chris_n | are you dodging tornadoes? |
17:21 | wizzyrea | not today, thankfully |
17:22 | you? | |
17:22 | chris_n | none of late |
17:23 | there was one in the mid-western part of NC last week, but nothing this far east lately... thankfully | |
17:23 | wizzyrea | it was sekjal who had to watch out yesterday |
17:23 | his county was in a tornado warning | |
17:24 | sekjal | Springfield, MA got the tornados |
17:24 | wizzyrea | yea I heard that. very sad |
17:24 | sekjal | my friends school got hit, so he found himself with a day off |
17:24 | death count is at 4, from last news I saw | |
17:25 | wizzyrea | :(( |
17:26 | chris_n | yeah, those northern tornadoes are quite unusual |
17:27 | sekjal | it was weird |
17:28 | and the twilight that evening after it passed was this eerie orange | |
17:28 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
17:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 28 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
17:44 | chris_n | gmcharlt: pushed |
17:45 | although one of them was already there | |
17:45 | gmcharlt | chris_n: thx |
17:45 | chris_n | that about does it for 3.2.10... and 3.2.x as a whole |
17:45 | parting is such sweet sorrow.... | |
17:45 | gmcharlt | chris_n++ |
17:51 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit32: 5684: Remove all items fields from a Z39.50 record imported for acquisition. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7edf0bf568483138f> / 5860 Fixing stocknumber index <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a47753b1e36f177a8> / Bug 3072: Add Heading-Main and Any to MARC21 DOM <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=commitd |
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18:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.2.x build #28: SUCCESS in 38 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/28/ |
18:21 | * Owen Leonard: Follow-up fix for Bug 5760 - Add the jquery table sorter to reading record | |
18:21 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3072: Add Heading-Main and Any to MARC21 DOM | |
18:21 | * Marcel de Rooy: 5860 Fixing stocknumber index | |
18:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5760 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Add the jquery table sorter to borrowers reading record |
18:21 | jenkins_koha | * Frédérick Capovilla: 5684: Remove all items fields from a Z39.50 record imported for acquisition. |
18:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3072 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE |
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19:07 | rangi | has anyone been able to recreate bug 6449 ? |
19:07 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6449 enhancement, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , no way to track when patron originally enrolled |
19:07 | rangi | cos i cant |
19:08 | oleonard | I can't either |
19:08 | rangi | good im not going mad then |
19:08 | im pretty sure jo would have driven to wellington to hit me by now if it was doing that | |
19:14 | cait | morning rangi :) |
19:15 | rhcl | Kiwi PYCON in Wellington in August |
19:16 | rangi | yep |
19:16 | brett from catalyst is organising a lot of that | |
19:16 | heya cait | |
19:20 | rhcl | I hadn't realized R was originally developed in NZ. |
19:20 | repeat abv tx: | |
19:20 | Hey, this is interesting. de July 11 Linux Journal, at the NZ Open Source Awards Ross Ihaka, one of the developers of R, received a lifetime achievement award from Catalyst. Didn't know that R was developed in NZ. | |
19:21 | rangi | yep |
19:21 | up at waikato | |
19:21 | rhcl | The July issue is pretty good, learning lots of stuff. Trying to comprehend http://softwarefreedom.org/eve[…]d-transcript.html right now. |
19:21 | rangi | or auckland |
19:22 | http://www.r-project.org/contributors.html | |
19:23 | ah yeah, freeing the cloud | |
19:23 | francois talks well about that | |
19:24 | http://www.libravatar.org/ <-- is an example of 'cloud' software that respects freedom | |
19:24 | gitorious is another | |
19:25 | eythian gave a great talk at the OSDC conference in australia too | |
19:25 | Software as a service, without committing crimes against freedom | |
19:26 | magnuse | yay |
19:26 | rangi | we try and make sure we do that with our hosted koha's by having the source code availabel for download, but also a button in the admin interface that you can click on to get all your config files + your db |
19:26 | magnuse | ooh, planning on submitting that? ;-) |
19:27 | rangi | the code to generate the backups is in already |
19:27 | the download button only works with the koha-common packages | |
19:27 | so we have to wrap it, so it wont show if it doesnt work :) | |
19:28 | magnuse | ah, cool |
19:28 | rangi | koha-common backs itself up nightly, and the download links to those, (so its not realtime dumping the db and killing you) |
19:28 | magnuse | good idea ;-) |
19:28 | and a very cool feature! | |
19:28 | rangi | liw did it |
19:29 | he's cool like that | |
19:30 | magnuse | liw++ |
19:34 | library_systems_guy | does anybody know if there is an outstanding transfers script? |
19:34 | rangi | in circ library_systems_guy |
19:34 | transfers waiting to receive | |
19:34 | wizzyrea | yea, transfers to receive |
19:35 | rangi | speaking of cloud |
19:35 | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=15748 <-- cool | |
19:35 | hopefully they do it with freedom too :) | |
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19:37 | library_systems_guy | ahh ok thanks rangi and wizzyrea |
19:39 | so the transfers to recieve also shows transfers going out of our library? | |
19:39 | receive* | |
19:39 | wizzyrea | mmm shouldn't |
19:39 | library_systems_guy | oh |
19:39 | wizzyrea | i don't remember it doing that |
19:39 | library_systems_guy | well thats the one im looking for :) |
19:39 | wizzyrea | AHA |
19:40 | * druthb | jumps. |
19:40 | wizzyrea | !! |
19:40 | rangi | well you can just do a sql report for that |
19:40 | * library_systems_guy | squeels |
19:40 | wizzyrea | noooooo |
19:40 | oh happy jumping and squealing | |
19:40 | nm | |
19:40 | library_systems_guy | lol |
19:40 | well my boss asked me about it...i honestly have no idea what either of them mean really | |
19:41 | * library_systems_guy | has no library degree and is a newb in this field :'( |
19:41 | wizzyrea | don't stress :) it'll be ok |
19:41 | rangi | everyone is |
19:41 | some just hide it better | |
19:41 | library_systems_guy | hehe |
19:41 | so can i get that data with a query? | |
19:42 | rangi | i gotta catch my bus, but transfers to receive will show you all the ones waiting |
19:42 | to arrive | |
19:42 | wizzyrea | something like |
19:42 | library_systems_guy | ok bye rangi |
19:42 | rangi | bbiab |
19:43 | wizzyrea | select * from branchtransfers where frombranch = 'yourbranch' and datearrived is NULL; |
19:43 | of course that doesn't get you titles/barcodes of stuff | |
19:43 | library_systems_guy | right but joins shall fix that |
19:43 | wizzyrea | yup |
19:44 | hilongo | hello there :9 |
19:44 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6450] No check in/check out messages in message_queue <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6450> |
19:44 | wizzyrea | in theory a completed transfer should never have a null datearrived |
19:45 | * wizzyrea | wonders about wrongtransfers |
19:45 | rhcl | wizzyrea et al: member of Lyrasis?? |
19:45 | wizzyrea | nope |
19:46 | hilongo | I'm testing Record matching rules in 3.4 and they don't seem to work ... anyone knows something about it? |
19:46 | wizzyrea | ah yea, library_systems_guy that will get you the wrongtransfers too, just fyi |
19:46 | er no it won't | |
19:46 | I mean | |
19:46 | sigh | |
19:47 | hilongo: how exactly are they not working? | |
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19:49 | hilongo | I have 10 records in my catalogue ... I have set up a matching rule with 3 matching points (title, control number and ISBN) I reimport the same 10 records and I get ' no match' for all of them :() |
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19:50 | hilongo | If I search the catalogue by title I find the books, and the same if I search using the 'cotrol number' field 001 |
19:51 | * library_systems_guy | is confused |
19:51 | library_systems_guy | sorry...my client quit scrolling -_- |
19:52 | i copied the report into mysql and it ran...copied the report into the report bit and it gives me an error when i download it | |
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19:53 | wizzyrea | is there a space at the beginning? |
19:53 | and no semicolon at the end | |
19:53 | library_systems_guy | ... |
19:53 | skushner | datearrived=null (because they are waiting)? |
19:53 | wizzyrea | because they have been sent |
19:53 | but not received yet | |
19:53 | library_systems_guy | no space and no semicolon |
19:53 | something about a null array reference | |
19:54 | wizzyrea | paste in your report |
19:54 | skushner | Sometimes when they are "received" they go to the next person in the queue when checked in at the branch, has anyone had that problem? |
19:54 | the holds queue... | |
19:54 | library_systems_guy | the only thing i changed from yours is i actutally inserted the branchcode |
19:54 | select * from branchtransfers where frombranch = 'TEX' and datearrived is NULL | |
19:55 | wizzyrea | huh odd. |
19:55 | library_systems_guy | indeed |
19:55 | wizzyrea | and it runs from the mysql client? |
19:55 | library_systems_guy | yes ma'am |
19:55 | and gives back one result | |
19:56 | the error is: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/reports/guided_reports.pl line 614. | |
19:56 | wizzyrea | yea totally works on my db from mysql... sec |
19:56 | library_systems_guy | if that helps |
19:56 | oleonard | Works for me as a report in Koha |
19:56 | library_systems_guy | hmm |
19:57 | wait...im retarded | |
19:57 | missed a ' | |
19:57 | wizzyrea | unlikely ;) |
19:57 | library_systems_guy | lol well...i had a blonde moment then? |
19:57 | * Brooke | has the retard market cornered! |
19:57 | wizzyrea | ah yea that'd do it |
19:57 | library_systems_guy | unless anyone here is blonde...then im totally sorry :'( |
19:57 | Brooke | I wish there were a colour doo dad thinger |
19:58 | oleonard | ? |
19:58 | Brooke | like that programme that was all like "yo! Missing a curly bracket there tough guy!" |
19:58 | skushner | Does anyone ever lose a hold that's transferred to a branch, when checked in at the branch? |
19:59 | oleonard | Can you elaborate skushner? |
19:59 | wizzyrea | only in conincidence of timing circumstances |
19:59 | oleonard | You mean when it's checked in there's no hold message anymore? |
20:00 | wizzyrea | where the hold is filled by another branch before the library with the item on the list gets to processing the hold |
20:00 | skushner | Yes, Hold from mid tranferred to Bay, when checked in at Bay, Hold goes to 2nd person on Hold, not the first |
20:00 | wizzyrea | yep, every time I've seen that it's been a coincidence of timing |
20:00 | skushner | This happens sometimes, arbitrarily |
20:00 | What do you mean, "conincidence of timing"? please 'splain.. | |
20:01 | wizzyrea | i mean that it's a coincidence that on, say, a very popular title |
20:01 | a copy of twilight will pass a scanner gun in library A while still on the pick list for library B | |
20:01 | but before library B has picked/processed the item | |
20:01 | so when B checks it in | |
20:01 | it goes to #2 on the list | |
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20:03 | wizzyrea | there's nothing programmatically to be done about that, imo |
20:03 | skushner | hmmm..title level holds problem, i see. thanks. that's interesting. |
20:03 | Brooke | I concur, and I'm a picky thing with reserves. |
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20:06 | skushner | But the problem is that the hold phone call is triggered during transfer of item to branch. Patron gets called to pick up hold at branch. When they go to pick up item, it's no longer there. It on to next person, and item from other branch is for person..???? |
20:06 | I'm confused... | |
20:07 | Shouldn't the Holds transfer be locked into the person the item was transferred for..? | |
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20:08 | wizzyrea | nope, it's not |
20:08 | no mention of who it's for in branchtransfers | |
20:09 | skushner | I knew you were going to say that's not how it works.. |
20:09 | wizzyrea | sorry >.> |
20:09 | rangi | you could make it lock |
20:09 | ie refuse to let it be issued | |
20:09 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure it would be a bad thing to make it lock |
20:09 | rangi | to anyone else |
20:10 | but would need to be a syspref | |
20:10 | wizzyrea | well it basically becomes an itemlevel hold at that point |
20:10 | rangi | yep |
20:10 | wizzyrea | this item -> this patron |
20:10 | Brooke | aye |
20:10 | wizzyrea | which has it's own difficulties |
20:10 | rangi | yep |
20:10 | skushner | But does the other item then that coincidentally got checked out at the same time, go to the 1st person on the list? I guess it does.. |
20:10 | rangi | hence syspref |
20:10 | wizzyrea | yep, it does |
20:11 | i'm assuming these are super popular titles? | |
20:11 | with heavy circ traffic and lots of copies? | |
20:11 | skushner | ok. thanks for straightening that out. At least I understand it now. Yes, they are popular... |
20:11 | wizzyrea | yea, I'm pretty sure that's what you're seeing there |
20:12 | we see that too, on very popular high traffic/multiple copy bibs | |
20:12 | it's a cost of doing business | |
20:12 | what your phone should do | |
20:12 | is trigger the call when it's arrived | |
20:12 | rangi | its soluble, but you'd have to spec how you want it to work and get the dev done |
20:12 | wizzyrea | not when it's sent |
20:12 | cuz when it's waiting | |
20:12 | it's ready | |
20:12 | and locked | |
20:13 | rangi | what she said |
20:13 | * Brooke | thinks it could be managed mo' better, but us devious librarians have to 'splain it right. |
20:14 | Brooke | but prodding things that work great nearly all the time is not necessarily wise. |
20:14 | rangi | well the main problem here is the phone call is triggered to soon |
20:14 | Brooke | rangi: realise. :) Happens like every system I've ever put my grubby paws on. |
20:14 | rangi | because there are many reasons why somerhing marked for transfer |
20:15 | may not arrive | |
20:15 | Brooke: not in koha, that phone thing isn't a koha feature | |
20:16 | wizzyrea | yea, that really seems like poor design to call when the transfer starts :/ |
20:16 | skushner | It's not integrated. It does a pick list from the day before...not realtime |
20:16 | wizzyrea | oh that makes it even wors |
20:16 | Brooke | ewww |
20:16 | now that's bad. | |
20:16 | spank whoever thought that up. | |
20:17 | skushner | It can probably be adjusted. I'll have to think about it....it wasn't ME, by the way...but now I now why these things are disappearing..so, thanks, wizzyrea ++ |
20:17 | wizzyrea | you are welcome : |
20:17 | :) | |
20:18 | Brooke | nothing says thanks like chocolate |
20:18 | picklesmcgee | Hi folks, extreme koha newb. given the task of building a koha server, any advice for finding info on koha on freebsd? I've only found one tut so far, and most everythign else says ewww go to debian |
20:18 | Brooke | just puttin' that out there |
20:18 | rangi | if it happened on receipt the feature could probably go into koha |
20:18 | * wizzyrea | doesn't require chocolate |
20:18 | rangi | if you do bsd ull most likely have to figure it out urself |
20:18 | Brooke | debian is the distro most devs use, and that's all I'ma say before someone hucks a tomatoe at me |
20:20 | skushner | beer then? how do you send a virtual beer to kansas...? |
20:20 | picklesmcgee | that's what i was afraid of :{ (funny tomato comment, just signed up yesterday for the tomato battle in co) thanks |
20:21 | wizzyrea | kansas has bizarre liquor laws, better just come do it in person ;) |
20:21 | Brooke | no wai |
20:21 | move to the Great Commonwealth | |
20:21 | you can get beer delivered to your doorstep | |
20:22 | * Brooke | thought over starting a firearms, liquor, & fireworks delivery company. |
20:22 | skushner | Yeah...my sister lived in a dry county, in Salina, i think... |
20:23 | wizzyrea | ah yea. I grew up in the county south of that |
20:23 | also dry | |
20:23 | not so much anymore | |
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20:52 | skushner | Wizzy, one more question about "coincidence of timing" and holds, please.... |
20:52 | wizzyrea | go for it |
20:53 | skushner | When item hold transfer to branch is on hold for patron, and another branch checks in the same title coincidentally...does another HOLD SLIP get created for the original patron..??? |
20:54 | wizzyrea | yes |
20:55 | skushner | ok, because we thought it was no....we've been putting them back on hold and bumping them up.... |
20:55 | rats | |
20:56 | wizzyrea | well, that's what happens in koha |
20:57 | it may not be the same for you :/ | |
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21:09 | library_systems_guy | is it hard to turn a regular sql report into a "canned report"? if that makes sense |
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21:45 | hilongo | Hello again .. I asked this already, but maybe now there is someone who an help me |
21:45 | I'm testing Record matching rules in 3.4 and they don't seem to work ... anyone knows something about it? | |
21:46 | cait | what exactly does not work? |
21:46 | hilongo | I have 10 records in my catalogue ... I have set up a matching rule with 3 matching points (title, control number and ISBN) I reimport the same 10 records and I get ' no match' for all of them :() |
21:46 | cait | on which step are you stuck? |
21:46 | have you rebuild your index? | |
21:46 | hilongo | If I search the catalogue by title I find the books, and the same if I search using the 'control number' field 001 |
21:46 | cait | after importing the first 10 - can you search for them? |
21:46 | ok | |
21:46 | hilongo | here is the thing ... |
21:46 | cait | how have you set up your matching points? |
21:47 | rangi | you are importing via the web interface eh? staged marc records |
21:47 | ? | |
21:47 | cait: yep he has :) | |
21:47 | hilongo | If I create a rule from scratch.... using the Title alone ... it works |
21:48 | BUT .. If I edit it ... by adding another Matchpoin ... or anything ...it no longer works | |
21:48 | rangi | sounds like a bug to me, have you checked bugs.koha-community.org ? |
21:48 | hilongo | yep ... searched 'matching rules' but it yields three bugs non related to this |
21:49 | rangi | might have to file a new one |
21:49 | cait | hm, never tried to use more than one - so no idea if it used to work |
21:49 | hilongo | by the way .. If I create a rule to match the 001 field ... using index Control-number ... it doesn't work, even from scratch |
21:50 | cait | ouch |
21:50 | wizzyrea | ah, if you do two match points, but leave off the control number as one? |
21:50 | hilongo | We used the feature in 3.2 ... and is working ok ... |
21:50 | wizzyrea | does it work? |
21:50 | so title/isbn, does that work? | |
21:50 | rangi | afaik nothing changed with match points for 3.4.x but i could be wrong |
21:50 | Space_Librarian | morning #koha TGIF |
21:51 | pianohacker | hola spacelib |
21:51 | time_zones-- | |
21:51 | cait | some work on the interface by owen I think, but can't remember anything else |
21:51 | hilongo | will test the title/isbn thin ... |
21:53 | yep ... title/isbn worked | |
21:53 | wizzyrea | so it's just the control number that's borked |
21:53 | hilongo | ... seems to be |
21:55 | but if I edit the rule ... say, to change the scores or the description ... it's bye bye ... no longer works ... | |
21:55 | wizzyrea | so it's the 3rd factor that breaks it? |
21:55 | or everything except title/isbn is broken | |
21:56 | hilongo | nope ... I didn't add any matchpoint .. just changed the score for title |
21:56 | wizzyrea | yup sounds like a bug, file one |
21:56 | bugzilla? | |
21:56 | wahanui | bugzilla is found at http://bugs.koha-community.org |
21:58 | hilongo | Ok .. will be filing it tomorrow and I'll try to see what happens with the tables in th DB when creating and editing |
22:22 | rangi | isnt chris_n in NC ? |
22:22 | hilongo: good plan | |
22:30 | pianohacker | rangi: Is there an efficient way to use git bz apply for patches you need to fix merge conflicts on? What it seems to be doing makes no sense whatsoever |
22:31 | something like git-rebase where it tries to apply the patch and shows conflict markers where it can't would be lovely; git-am seems to try to apply the patch and simply goes 'meh' if it can't, which is frustrating | |
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22:32 | rangi | pianohacker: git am will do conflict markers if there is a conflict |
22:33 | pianohacker | That was my understanding, but it appears to be doing absolutely nothing; I'll post a pastebin |
22:33 | rangi | it may be that git-bz is not giving git am the right switches |
22:34 | pastebot | "pianohacker" at 67.177.235.113 pasted "rangi: here's what it's doing" (23 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/71 |
22:34 | pianohacker | there's a .git/rebase-apply directory, so it thinks it's in the middle of _something_; I'm just not sure what the expected workflow is |
22:36 | rangi | yes its doing a git am |
22:37 | pastebot | "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "git am attachment.cgi\?id=2739" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/72 |
22:37 | rangi | its doing exactly that |
22:38 | pianohacker | okay, that makes sense |
22:38 | cait | I ran into that too |
22:38 | pastebot | "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "git am -3 attachment.cgi\?id=2" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/73 |
22:38 | rangi | thats what we normally do |
22:38 | cait | normally I do a git status to check for the files I have to work on, but it showed none and didn't complete |
22:38 | pianohacker | rangi: Alright, so I need to modify git-bz to do something halfway useful. Thanks |
22:38 | rangi | yes we arent telling it to try and merge a unclean patch anyway |
22:39 | its only going apply ones that apply clean | |
22:39 | youd need to make it a switch | |
22:39 | because arguably applying only clean is a desired behaviour | |
22:39 | pianohacker | for certain workflows, yes |
22:40 | rangi | so git bz appply -3 4222 |
22:40 | would make sense to me | |
22:40 | you could do -s too | |
22:40 | to sign off | |
22:40 | etc | |
22:40 | pianohacker | would also be nice if the git documentation gave more info on what -3 did, but, well, git documentation :) |
22:41 | rangi | -3, --3way When the patch does not apply cleanly, fall back on 3-way merge if the patch records the identity of blobs it is supposed to apply to and we have those blobs available locally. |
22:41 | -u we want too | |
22:41 | pianohacker | right, that kind of makes sense |
22:41 | just didn't know what a 3-way merge was | |
22:42 | rangi | ah |
22:42 | goes back to the base commit (where they diverged) | |
22:43 | and merges both together on top of that | |
22:43 | so merging three things together | |
22:43 | pianohacker | and now the name makes sense, thank you |
22:43 | rangi | vs just applying the diffs |
22:44 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
22:44 | pianohacker | a paragraph like that in the man page would be muy helpful, I might have to send in a patch |
22:44 | rangi | :) |
22:46 | well its more complex than that | |
22:47 | http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]cs/git-merge.html | |
22:47 | you can set up all sorts of merge strategies | |
22:49 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M[…])#Three-way_merge | |
22:49 | theres whole degrees in merge strategies ;-) | |
22:52 | pianohacker | PhD theses, etc. Yeah, I can imagine |
23:12 | * rangi | steals some very simple little patches out of sekjals queue |
23:13 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 273 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
23:14 | rangi | ibeardslee: http://grooveshark.com/#/album[…]Of+Redboy/2364822 |
23:14 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6380 - Z39.50 Cataloging Search needs a way to try search again, even if results... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ffb2d59d202d28ea4> / Bug 6361 - make the packages work with koha 3.4 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2742713f0ec0b4d9e> |
23:19 | rangi | library_systems_guy: you about? |
23:19 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1c5b3ef25a83af773 | |
23:26 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6437: Added div with id yui-main around advsearch form <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1c5b3ef25a83af773> |
23:30 | ibeardslee | rangi: I think I have a copy of that at home |
23:30 | rangi | cool |
23:32 | pianohacker | robbie robertson's music sounds interesting, but man has he not aged well, poor fellow |
23:37 | ibeardslee | there is something so special about the music from the people of the 60s |
23:37 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6350 - Keeping history page up to date <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]48793f6d34c54cb2b> |
23:37 | rangi | ibeardslee: its true |
23:37 | ibeardslee | a big difference to the manufactured music of today |
23:37 | rangi | yup |
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23:56 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #273: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/273/ |
23:56 | * Robin Sheat: Bug 6361 - make the packages work with koha 3.4 | |
23:56 | * Liz Rea: Bug 6380 - Z39.50 Cataloging Search needs a way to try search again, even if results are found | |
23:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade |
23:56 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6380 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, wizzyrea, ASSIGNED , Z39.50 Cataloging Search needs a way to try search again, even if results are found | |
23:56 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 274 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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