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| 01:09 | * chris_n | sits down to relax 525 bales of straw later |
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| 01:46 | chris_n | g'night #koha |
| 01:47 | rangi | cya chris_n |
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| 02:43 | rangi | hi jransom |
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| 02:44 | Space_Librarian | hey jransom |
| 02:45 | jransom | heya |
| 02:46 | eythian | hello |
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| 03:26 | Amit_Gupta | heya chris |
| 03:26 | rangi | hiya Amit_Gupta |
| 03:31 | glernil | previous notices are always being sent with the new notice.. which lead to multiple notices being sent in the email address of a patron.. any idea? |
| 03:44 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6433] rebuild_zebra.pl does not handle MARC::Record exceptions gracefully <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6433> |
| 04:03 | rangi | @later tell gmcharlt any word on when mail on the wiki will be going again (or some other way for new people to be able to edit it) |
| 04:03 | huginn` | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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| 04:29 | druthb | @seen Brooke |
| 04:29 | huginn` | druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 12 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Brooke> rangi++ |
| 04:32 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 04:33 | http://twitpic.com/54wlci | |
| 04:34 | * druthb | chuckles. |
| 04:35 | druthb | Hi, rangi! :) |
| 04:35 | rangi | its new business card day at catalyst |
| 04:36 | druthb | awesome. :) I'm gonna suggest to NateC that we add our IRC handles to ours; I can't count how many times I've *told* folks, or scribbled it on the back. |
| 04:36 | (and mine's easy.) | |
| 04:37 | rangi | we have our gpg keys on ours, and a qr code on the back |
| 04:38 | druthb | I fear for us to do that, would require that someone besides NateC do it. ;-) He's relatively low-tech |
| 04:43 | rangi | reminds me |
| 04:43 | i must organise a gpg key signing party one night of ALA | |
| 04:52 | * druthb | can't find anything further to fix tonight on this little test data load, so the work is done. :) |
| 04:52 | druthb | I get to go watch my firstborn graduate from high school tomorrow. #littlehappylittlesad |
| 04:53 | Space_Librarian | be proud, not sad. :) |
| 04:54 | druthb | I'm very proud of her, yes. :) but my lil girl all grown up.... |
| 04:54 | Off to bed. Be well. :) | |
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| 05:02 | Oak | \o |
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| 05:09 | Amit_Gupta | heya Oak ;) |
| 05:23 | Oak | hello Amit_Gupta :) |
| 05:27 | Amit_Gupta, any idea what would be the cost to travel from Pakistan to Thane, India? | |
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| 05:42 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:42 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 05:42 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta :) |
| 05:42 | Amit_Gupta | Oak no idea |
| 05:43 | Oak | ok |
| 05:43 | hiya cait :) | |
| 05:43 | cait | hi Oak :) |
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| 05:45 | cait | eythian: around? |
| 05:45 | Oak | no idea |
| 05:46 | Amit_Gupta | cait: are you coming for attending kohaconf |
| 05:47 | cait | not sure yet |
| 05:48 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 05:50 | cait | hi Ropuch |
| 05:50 | Amit_Gupta | heya Ropuch ;) |
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| 06:14 | cait | morning magnuse |
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| 06:23 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:34 | cait | hi reiveune and clrh :) |
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| 06:35 | alex_a | hi #koha |
| 06:35 | bonjour cait :) | |
| 06:36 | clrh | hi cai :) |
| 06:36 | raté | |
| 06:36 | magnuse | bonjour #koha |
| 06:47 | alex_a | hallo magnuse |
| 06:47 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
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| 06:52 | reiveune | cait , magnuse : hi |
| 06:54 | magnuse | hi reiveune |
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| 06:59 | francharb | morning #koha |
| 07:02 | magnuse | hi francharb |
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| 07:07 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 07:14 | bigbrovar | Timezone Appropriate greetings everyone |
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| 07:24 | magnuse | kia ora bigbrovar |
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| 07:36 | kf | mornign magnuse |
| 07:38 | magnuse | guten morgen kf |
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| 07:49 | clrh | https://docs2.google.com/a/bib[…]DyNKiFL7gWso/edit |
| 07:49 | oups | |
| 07:58 | magnuse | ? ;-) |
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| 08:32 | julian | hello #koha |
| 08:34 | kf | hi julian |
| 08:52 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf ;) |
| 08:54 | kf | hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 10:10 | vfernandes | hi :) |
| 10:10 | magnuse | hiya vfernandes |
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| 10:12 | druthb | o/ |
| 10:14 | magnuse | \o |
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| 10:18 | vfernandes | people it's possible to include the date due in the check out letter/email? |
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| 10:30 | magnuse | vfernandes: doesn't look like items.datedue is available to the notices - i have no idea why... |
| 10:32 | vfernandes | :/ |
| 10:34 | magnuse | sorry vfernandes, forget what i just said, i was getting my db tables mixed up! |
| 10:36 | vfernandes | issues.date_due can't be included in the notices? |
| 10:38 | magnuse | doesn't look like it |
| 10:38 | but it sure looks like something that would be nice to have | |
| 10:40 | rangi | you can do it from items |
| 10:40 | 0 1 * * * $KOHA_CRON_PATH/overdue_notices.pl -t -itemscontent "date_due,title,barcode,author" | |
| 10:41 | etc | |
| 10:41 | vfernandes | but isn't for overdue notices, it's for check out notices |
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| 10:47 | rangi | yep, just need to add a couple of lines so that you can use itemscontent in it too |
| 10:50 | see line 2628 of C4/Circulation.pm | |
| 10:50 | if you add | |
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| 10:51 | rangi | C4::Letters::parseletter($letter, 'items', $item->{itemnumber}); |
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| 10:52 | rangi | then you can use <<items.date_due>> (or something similair) |
| 10:52 | or you could add | |
| 10:53 | vfernandes | items.on_loan |
| 10:54 | rangi | yep |
| 10:54 | vfernandes | i'm seeing in the database and item.on_loan is the column responsible to save the item date_due |
| 10:55 | rangi | so add that line to C4/Circulation.pm then <<items.on_loan>> to the notice and you should be good to go |
| 10:55 | if it works, you can send a patch :) | |
| 10:56 | vfernandes | C4::Letters::parseletter($letter, 'items', $item->{itemnumber}); in the sendCirculationAlerts method |
| 10:57 | and added <<items.on_loan>> in the check out notice | |
| 10:57 | testing now... | |
| 10:59 | magnuse | rangi++ |
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| 11:11 | rangi | i guess we'll never know if it works :) |
| 11:22 | kf | rangi: sleep? |
| 11:23 | rangi | soon |
| 11:29 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6434] Many changes for Ukrainian and Russian sql-tables <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6434> |
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| 11:37 | magnuse | hm i wonder if the work on bug 5166 crashes with the patch for bug 6433? |
| 11:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Refactor rebuild_zebra.pl into a library |
| 11:37 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6433 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED , rebuild_zebra.pl does not handle MARC::Record exceptions gracefully | |
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| 11:45 | magnuse | hiya nengard |
| 11:45 | nengard | monring |
| 11:45 | morning | |
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| 11:56 | magnuse | nengard: i need to edit my entry on the paid support page - how do i find it? is it a post? |
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| 12:15 | conan | hello everyone |
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| 12:15 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:15 | magnuse | hola conan and oleonard |
| 12:20 | nengard | magnuse sorry, missed your question, it's not a post, it's in a directory and i think wizzyrea knows the specifics |
| 12:21 | magnuse | thanks nengard, i'll bug wizzy when i see her |
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| 13:23 | conan | I get tired of going over the questions everytime I need to test a new install (for a branch, a bug, etc) |
| 13:23 | I was wondering if is there a way to tell the installer about some defaults and it doesn't ask anything | |
| 13:24 | I was about to modify 'sub get_configuration' to read from environment if appropriate values set | |
| 13:24 | but I decided to ask first, how do you do? | |
| 13:24 | magnuse | conan: i think you could use a fake koha-install-log, same as when you upgrade |
| 13:24 | conan | you go over every configuration question every time, pressing enter? |
| 13:25 | magnuse: I saw that, but I don't understood it | |
| 13:25 | it just have lines like: | |
| 13:25 | SOMEVAR=__SOMEVAR__ | |
| 13:25 | I don't know what's taht | |
| 13:26 | I was thinking about modifing Makefile.PL like this for every variable: | |
| 13:26 | magnuse | the file is created when you have run through perl Makefile.PL |
| 13:26 | conan | if(defined($ENV{'SOMEVAR'})) { # use that value if allowed } |
| 13:27 | magnuse: yes, I'm looking at it right now, it says for every var: | |
| 13:27 | LOG_DIR=__LOG_DIR__ | |
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| 13:27 | magnuse | not loking at the right file, then |
| 13:28 | what you see is a kind of template | |
| 13:28 | conan | ah... |
| 13:29 | magnuse | if you have dev install it's in koha-dev/misc/koha-install-log |
| 13:29 | conan | magnuse: found it, thank, you saved me a lot of typing (I was about to reinvent the wheel) |
| 13:29 | magnuse | cool! |
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| 13:33 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6436] Don't allow deletion of an itemtype used in items.itype <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6436> |
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| 13:40 | oleonard | The dreaded "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value." Seems like we're getting this a lot lately. |
| 13:40 | I got it today when trying to populate 100a with an authority record | |
| 13:41 | Can anyone reproduce this error? Or is it a problem with my records? | |
| 13:50 | matts is now known as matts_away | |
| 13:56 | oleonard | That Koha can't gracefully handle errors like that frustrates me. |
| 13:58 | conan | oleonard: tell me how to reproduce and I'll try |
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| 13:59 | conan | magnuse: it seems I'll have to reinvent the wheel anyway :( |
| 13:59 | oleonard | conan: I opened a blank MARC entry form with a framework which links 100a to an authority record |
| 14:00 | conan: I clicked the link to open the authority search form; Searched for an author; Clicked 'choose' for the author I wanted | |
| 14:00 | conan | magnus_away: that file is useful only if you already made an installation, what I want is to define defaults for test installations and don't be bother with questions |
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| 14:02 | conan | oleonard: let me try it |
| 14:03 | oleonard: wait, do I have to have an authority record defined? or not to fire the bug? | |
| 14:03 | oleonard | You have to have an authority record in order to test |
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| 14:09 | library_systems_guy | hey is hdl around? |
| 14:09 | hdl | library_systems_guy: yep |
| 14:10 | library_systems_guy | hey hdl, what was that command for updating with changes? I am going to try and add that to the git section of the wiki |
| 14:10 | hdl | git commit --amend ? |
| 14:10 | library_systems_guy | no it was like git stash maybe? |
| 14:11 | hdl | oleonard: which is the MARCflavour you have and what is the bug ? |
| 14:11 | git stash save | |
| 14:11 | git stash apply | |
| 14:11 | library_systems_guy | then git fetch |
| 14:11 | hdl | git stash list |
| 14:11 | library_systems_guy | ah cool |
| 14:11 | hdl | git fetch |
| 14:11 | wahanui | git fetch is, like, timing out |
| 14:11 | hdl | git rebase origin/branch |
| 14:12 | git stash pop | |
| 14:12 | library_systems_guy | ok awesome, thanks hdl |
| 14:12 | hdl | wahanui: forget git fetch |
| 14:12 | wahanui | hdl: I forgot git fetch |
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| 14:12 | hdl | library_systems_guy: np |
| 14:12 | wizzyrea | git fetch is <reply> |
| 14:12 | oleonard | hdl: MARC21. When I try to choose an personal name authority record to populate 100a I get an error |
| 14:12 | library_systems_guy | hdl++ |
| 14:13 | hdl | which is it ? |
| 14:13 | oleonard: ? | |
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| 14:13 | oleonard | "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value." |
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| 14:13 | hdl | One of our devs developped C4::Logguer in order to have a really unified Logguing system |
| 14:13 | (work in progress...) | |
| 14:14 | The MARC::Record seems not created or it has an empty field. | |
| 14:14 | Can you give me the line # referred to in your apache logs ? | |
| 14:16 | oleonard | blinddetail-biblio-search.pl: Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/authorities/blinddetail-biblio-search.pl line 80. |
| 14:18 | conan | oleonard: can't reproduce, my zebra isn't working |
| 14:21 | hdl | oleonard: do you have an authid ? and an authority already created in your catalogue for that ? |
| 14:22 | seems $record should be tested. | |
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| 14:23 | oleonard | hdl: That must be it. The authority is showing up in searches but seems to no longer exist. |
| 14:24 | hdl | *nod... |
| 14:24 | should I say it ? | |
| 14:25 | oleonard | Are you going to say, "Koha really should be able to display a human-friendly error in situations like this!" ? |
| 14:25 | hdl | oleonard: this is a work in progress... |
| 14:26 | oleonard | rebuild_zebra.pl with "-a" to clean up my authorities index? |
| 14:26 | hdl | -r to clean it up |
| 14:26 | -a yes | |
| 14:26 | -a only won't reset the idex database. | |
| 14:27 | -a only won't reset the index database. | |
| 14:28 | oleonard | It doesn't seem to have had any effect. The same results are appearing. |
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| 14:35 | conan | oleonard: is this your error? |
| 14:35 | Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at /home/koha/C4/Context.pm line 680 | |
| 14:35 | oleonard | No, that's a new one to me |
| 14:35 | hdl | oleonard: zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg -d authorities init |
| 14:35 | oleonard: zebraidx -c path/to/zebra-authorities.cfg -d authorities commit | |
| 14:35 | tehn reindex | |
| 14:35 | conan | got my zebra working and got that |
| 14:36 | hdl: do we have to reindex? isn't rebuild_zebra enough? | |
| 14:36 | or that's for oleonard case? | |
| 14:37 | hdl | conan: it appears that rebuild_zebra sometimes is not enough. |
| 14:38 | conan: for instance, if you donot have any authorities in your database. | |
| 14:38 | conan: doing a rebuild_zebra -r won't reset the index... Because when it exports nothing, it doesnot perform the init on the database. | |
| 14:39 | conan | hdl: not my case, I had 2 authorities |
| 14:39 | hdl | and sometimes, when one record breaks the indexation, zebraidx is not raising any error... and Koha would not manage that. |
| 14:39 | conan | anyway, my test install seems to have died |
| 14:39 | now I can't go anywhere | |
| 14:40 | hdl | conan: this was in oleonard's case |
| 14:41 | oleonard | Thanks hdl, that seems to have worked. |
| 14:41 | Can you explain what those commands did? | |
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| 14:58 | reiveune | bye |
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| 14:59 | hdl | oleonard: sure. |
| 14:59 | zebraidx init ... reinit the zebra database for authorities. | |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | is that akin to deleting existing db and making a completely fresh db? |
| 15:00 | hdl | zebraidx commit ... commits the modification (in case you use a shadow cache in database. |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea: aye... you should use zebraidx init in that case. | |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | gotcha, thx |
| 15:01 | * oleonard | suspects this copy of "ASDJKGFAKSEHFK" in our catalog may not be legit |
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| 15:07 | kf | rain! |
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| 15:11 | oleonard | Thanks hdl |
| 15:11 | hdl++ | |
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| 15:22 | rhcl | ping? |
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| 16:06 | slef | naught rhcl, pinging hdl off |
| 16:06 | naughty even | |
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| 16:35 | slef | evening cait1 |
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| 16:35 | slef | scary salads in Germany |
| 16:35 | cait1 | hi slef :) |
| 16:35 | yeah, we got vegetable salad in the cafeteria today | |
| 16:35 | not so tasty | |
| 16:36 | slef | heh, your cafeteria doesn't follow the government advice then? |
| 16:36 | cait1 | no salad |
| 16:36 | but cooked vegetables as salad replacement | |
| 16:43 | * slef | goes for a coffee break :) |
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| 16:52 | rhcl | naught's had, all's spent, where our desire is got, without content |
| 16:53 | cait1 | ? |
| 16:53 | ie-- | |
| 16:58 | oleonard | rhcl: If your wife is encouraging you to murder your superior, just say no. |
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| 16:59 | oleonard is now known as oleonard-away | |
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| 17:02 | rhcl | but that was Shakespeare, Lady MacBeth, in response to Slef's comment above |
| 17:02 | one of those things from my distant past that never made it to the status of a post-nominal | |
| 17:12 | oleonard-away is now known as oleonard | |
| 17:12 | * oleonard | is sorry he stepped outside |
| 17:12 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 17:12 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 32.0�C (12:55 PM EDT on May 31, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
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| 17:15 | wizzyrea | oof |
| 17:17 | library_systems_guy | is it possible for me to attach a patch as an attachment in the bug report...im not sure if email is working on my dev server... |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | git bz? |
| 17:20 | git-bz? | |
| 17:20 | wahanui | git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 17:20 | library_systems_guy | doh...thanks wizzyrea |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | :) it's new |
| 17:21 | library_systems_guy | ohh...well that makes sense then...complicated? |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | nah not really |
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| 17:27 | adnc | hello koha |
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| 17:31 | conan | library_systems_guy: but you could do it manually too |
| 17:32 | and after saying that, I have to run :P | |
| 17:32 | later | |
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| 17:32 | library_systems_guy | oh yeah just sending it to koha-patches |
| 17:32 | lol thanks conan | |
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| 17:33 | cait1 | hi adnc |
| 17:33 | adnc | cait1, huhu |
| 17:33 | cait1 | :) |
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| 17:35 | library_systems_guy | hmm ok |
| 17:35 | so i did a git commit file | |
| 17:35 | and now i don't see the file in that directory :'( | |
| 17:35 | * library_systems_guy | just wants to add a div id |
| 17:36 | wizzyrea | get in a safe directory, i use ~/kohaclone/patches |
| 17:36 | and issue a git format-patch origin | |
| 17:36 | or you did that | |
| 17:36 | and you don't see the file? | |
| 17:37 | library_systems_guy | oh no i just ran a git commit file |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 17:37 | library_systems_guy | ohhh |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | version control using git? |
| 17:37 | wahanui | i guess version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 17:37 | library_systems_guy | i didn't scroll far enough on the wiki |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | have you seen that? |
| 17:37 | library_systems_guy | boo |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 17:37 | :) | |
| 17:37 | library_systems_guy | yeah thats what i was reading lol |
| 17:37 | * library_systems_guy | feels silly |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | don't, git is wonderful and evil, all at once. |
| 17:37 | library_systems_guy | exactly |
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| 17:45 | Soupermanito | library_systems_guy, your nick is really long |
| 17:46 | library_systems_guy | indeed it is Soupermanito...but that is what autocomplete is for lol |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea, was there something else i was supposed to do for git-bz other than whats on the wiki? | |
| 17:46 | Soupermanito | :P but it messes up whit my irc client XD |
| 17:46 | library_systems_guy | what client are you using |
| 17:46 | wizzyrea | no, that ought to do it |
| 17:47 | library_systems_guy | hmm...i get an error that says bz is not a git command |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | AH |
| 17:47 | yes | |
| 17:47 | library_systems_guy | o_0 |
| 17:47 | Soupermanito | heya wizzyrea :D i figured uot what was the problem the other day, it turns out i hadn't created the MySQL database, thats why the password was wrong for it |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | you need to make sure your symlink to git-bz is in your path |
| 17:47 | Soupermanito: Yay!! | |
| 17:47 | :D | |
| 17:47 | Soupermanito | :D |
| 17:47 | library_systems_guy | ohhh |
| 17:48 | so i need to export it | |
| 17:48 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 17:48 | library_systems_guy | boo lol |
| 17:49 | wizzyrea | something like export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin |
| 17:49 | would get it for this session | |
| 17:49 | Soupermanito | library_systems_guy, i use xchat whit auto indent nicks |
| 17:49 | library_systems_guy | and that is broken? |
| 17:50 | Soupermanito | not really, its just your name |
| 17:50 | library_systems_guy | wizzyrea i guess i could put it in /usr/games because Koha + git = fun times |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 17:50 | library_systems_guy | xchat hates /me |
| 17:50 | Soupermanito | XD |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea | @quote add library_systems_guy: I guess I could put (git-bz) in /usr/games because Koha + git = fun times |
| 17:50 | huginn` | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #139 added. |
| 17:54 | library_systems_guy | so do i just reference the bug number in the comments when i do a commit? |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | usually what I do |
| 17:54 | and this is just me | |
| 17:54 | is | |
| 17:54 | Bug xxxx - what this bug is about | |
| 17:54 | on the first line | |
| 17:54 | library_systems_guy | ahh ok i can do that...seems logical |
| 17:54 | wizzyrea | then on the next few lines |
| 17:54 | a test plan is nice | |
| 17:55 | so a quick summary of what it's supposed to do | |
| 17:55 | and a quick idea of how someone who has never looked at it before could test it | |
| 17:55 | library_systems_guy | ok cool...maybe not so much on the testing end if i am just added a div id? |
| 17:56 | wizzyrea | right, to test that you pretty much say "with this patch applied a new div id will be around X element" or somesuch |
| 17:56 | but you're right | |
| 17:56 | you don't have to say much about that sort of thign | |
| 17:56 | thing* | |
| 17:57 | library_systems_guy | but yeah i can definitely understand having some good testing procedures around non-trivial stuff :) |
| 17:57 | wizzyrea | well and even pretty trivial stuff |
| 17:57 | library_systems_guy | ok ill see what i can whip up :) |
| 17:57 | wizzyrea | it'll be fabulous, I'm sure :) |
| 17:58 | library_systems_guy | lol...iv'e just got to figure out how to edit my commit to have the bug number in it |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea | git commit --amend |
| 17:58 | ;) | |
| 17:58 | library_systems_guy | aww thanks wizzyrea you are the best |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea++ | |
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| 17:58 | wizzyrea | should let you ammend the last commit. you'll also need to re-do your format-patch origin stuffs |
| 17:59 | amend with one m even. | |
| 17:59 | library_systems_guy: it took me ages to learn this stuff. | |
| 17:59 | AGES. | |
| 17:59 | library_systems_guy | yeah im feeling the same way lol |
| 17:59 | but with bz i shouldn't have to do a format correct? | |
| 17:59 | wizzyrea | right |
| 18:00 | library_systems_guy | cool...i think i like that better |
| 18:00 | wizzyrea | you'll still have to poke bugzilla and change it to 'patch sent' and 'awaiting signoff' |
| 18:01 | library_systems_guy | i can do that i think :-/ |
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| 18:01 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 200.16.16.13 pasted "script for checking records" (86 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70 |
| 18:02 | library_systems_guy | wizzyrea, for returns in the commit string is it just \n |
| 18:03 | lol umm well i use emacs...guess im stuck lol | |
| 18:03 | wizzyrea | I'm sorry I don't have an answer for that particular question, maybe someone else can hop in |
| 18:04 | library_systems_guy | i just saw nengard get on and she is the patch queen lol |
| 18:04 | nengard | huh what?? |
| 18:04 | * nengard | ducks |
| 18:04 | * library_systems_guy | throws random commit question |
| 18:04 | library_systems_guy | how do i insert returns into the commit string |
| 18:05 | so its not just one giant line when i throw in my testing message | |
| 18:05 | im using the emacs shell buffer...if that helps lol | |
| 18:05 | cait | commit string? |
| 18:05 | library_systems_guy | the -m bit |
| 18:05 | cait | ah |
| 18:05 | library_systems_guy | message** |
| 18:05 | sorry cait | |
| 18:06 | cait | I normally do it when I commit it, or you can do git commit --amend |
| 18:06 | the first line will be the mail subject and you can write a commit message below that | |
| 18:06 | not sure about -m :) | |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | ^^ is the way I do it |
| 18:06 | library_systems_guy | oh so nobody uses -m? |
| 18:07 | my SVN background has failed me | |
| 18:07 | * oleonard | likes having more than one line |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | i'm sure there are people who do, but not me >.> |
| 18:07 | * wizzyrea | too |
| 18:08 | library_systems_guy | so i don't need the -m but i can just type a message after the commit? |
| 18:08 | slef | I use -m |
| 18:08 | * library_systems_guy | is so confused |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | right |
| 18:08 | git commit /path/to/the/file | |
| 18:08 | library_systems_guy | slef halp |
| 18:08 | slef | it's not required but avoids the editor being fired up |
| 18:08 | wizzyrea | AHA, this is against the editor bias :) |
| 18:08 | slef | reading scrollback |
| 18:08 | nengard | i do the same as cait |
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| 18:09 | slef | library_systems_guy: M-x start-server, then export EDITOR=emacsclient in your emacs shell window |
| 18:09 | library_systems_guy | wizzyrea, that is what i was doing...so mine looks like git commit /path/to/file -m "some info about the bug" |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | right, I leave off the -m |
| 18:10 | *shrug* | |
| 18:10 | slef | I never put a file on the commit command line :-S |
| 18:10 | is that the commit message? | |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 18:10 | wait what? | |
| 18:10 | library_systems_guy | oh? |
| 18:10 | slef | no it isn't wizzyrea I just read the man page |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | ok |
| 18:11 | library_systems_guy | i think the path to file is for the file you want to commit |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 18:11 | is what I was talking about | |
| 18:11 | it's not mandatory, you can do -a and get all files you've changed | |
| 18:11 | slef | I use git add and git rm, so don't need to mention files on the commit |
| 18:12 | library_systems_guy | oh |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | I do it the way it says to on the wiki |
| 18:12 | library_systems_guy | cursed wiki documentation leading me astray |
| 18:12 | slef | anyway library_systems_guy you OK for a mo now? |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | tmtwwtdi |
| 18:12 | tmtowtdi | |
| 18:12 | there we go | |
| 18:12 | library_systems_guy | o_0 |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | tmtowtdi is there's more than one way to do it |
| 18:12 | slef | yeah tmtowtdi and the wiki often doesn't mention that because only one person wrote it ;) |
| 18:13 | tmtowtdi? | |
| 18:13 | wahanui | rumour has it tmtowtdi is there's more than one way to do it |
| 18:13 | slef | wahanui: botsnack! |
| 18:13 | wahanui | :) |
| 18:13 | slef | I so nearly typed botsex |
| 18:13 | wizzyrea | ROFL |
| 18:13 | slef++ for the funny of the day | |
| 18:13 | slef | wahanui: botsex! |
| 18:13 | wahanui | slef: sorry... |
| 18:13 | library_systems_guy | umm i see what you did there slef |
| 18:13 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 18:14 | slef | library_systems_guy: oh and C-x # to finish with an emacsclient buffer I think |
| 18:14 | cait | lol |
| 18:14 | library_systems_guy | so you are running emacs inside of emacs |
| 18:14 | lol | |
| 18:14 | cait | I also do git add and git commit without file path - if someone is still interested :) |
| 18:14 | * slef | goes to bludgeon the bank website into submission to pay some bills |
| 18:14 | slef | library_systems_guy: emacs invoking the shell invoking emacs... |
| 18:14 | * wizzyrea | falls down dizzily |
| 18:15 | slef | library_systems_guy: if you're only changing one file, C-x v v will commit it |
| 18:15 | oleonard | library_systems_guy: Is the problem that git is invoking the wrong editor? |
| 18:15 | tcohen | i've pasted a script that helps in the task of upgrading to 3.4, by telling which biblionumbers would fail |
| 18:15 | remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl | |
| 18:15 | i'd like someone to take a look at it | |
| 18:15 | slef | there's probably a way to manage more files but I don't do much editing in emacs |
| 18:15 | tcohen: hero! | |
| 18:15 | tcohen | before posting in public |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | what would cause them to fail? |
| 18:16 | tcohen | (don't want to be embarrased) |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | (curious) |
| 18:16 | tcohen | encoding problems |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 18:16 | cait | tcohen: I agree with slef :) tcohen++ |
| 18:16 | slef | tcohen: I'm busy for an hour at least but PM me a link and I'll look? |
| 18:16 | library_systems_guy | oleonard, no no, i was just trying to add a commit message |
| 18:16 | tcohen | basically I put as_usmarc and as_xml_record in a try-catch block |
| 18:16 | library_systems_guy | but i was trying to do it with bz |
| 18:16 | tcohen | and print the biblionumbers that fail |
| 18:16 | slef | tcohen: sounds reasonable |
| 18:17 | library_systems_guy | it lets me commit now but something about cookies and a browser |
| 18:17 | tcohen | http://paste.koha-community.org/70 |
| 18:17 | it could be improved of course to tell MARC is valid or not | |
| 18:18 | but at least it will tell which records would fail for koha | |
| 18:18 | wizzyrea | the git-bz wiki page says: Optionally, if you plan on sending bugs to bugzilla from git, you'll need to have Chrome or Firefox installed on your dev machine, and have logged into bugzilla at least once from that machine. Git-bz uses Firefox's cookie to authenticate you to bugzilla, so remember to save at least that one cookie. Should you clear out your cookies on that machine, you will need to log into bugzilla again from that machine to ge |
| 18:18 | work again. | |
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| 18:19 | library_systems_guy | ahh ok...i wonder if i can just copy the cookie from my machine to the dev box...i seriously doubt it |
| 18:19 | i only have shell access | |
| 18:19 | :'( | |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | what I did, was install firefox from packages |
| 18:19 | then ssh -x userhost |
|
| 18:20 | then ran firefox from the command line. That of course requires you to an x server on your local machine. easy if you have a mac with the dev tools :P | |
| 18:20 | probably if you are working from linux too | |
| 18:20 | library_systems_guy | well i have an ubuntu box |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | windows... I have no clue |
| 18:20 | library_systems_guy | so i think i can make it happen |
| 18:22 | tcohen | if you want to actually run in the remote machine you should add the -no-remote parameter to firefox command |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | oh right! |
| 18:22 | yes, thanks, I forgot that bit | |
| 18:22 | tcohen | otherwise it will reuse the gecko engine running in your local desktop |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | you only have to do it once, just enough to get you logged into bz |
| 18:23 | library_systems_guy | right right |
| 18:26 | slef | odd |
| 18:26 | should be easy enough to log into BZ and save the cookie from curl or wget | |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | bbiab |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea is now known as wizzyrea_away | |
| 18:27 | tcohen | http://blogs.unc.edu.ar/koha/l[…]d-problems-arise/ |
| 18:28 | in the spanish version y posted a link to the .pl file | |
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| 18:48 | library_systems_guy | i gave up on submitting with BZ and just added the formatted patch as an attachment...hope that works |
| 18:49 | cait | it's what we did before git-bz came along :) |
| 18:49 | library_systems_guy | lol that stupid cookie thing |
| 18:49 | if it wasn't for that id have it working | |
| 18:55 | slef | the git-bz wiki page? |
| 18:55 | git-bz? | |
| 18:55 | wahanui | git-bz is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration |
| 18:55 | slef | but first, I read tcohen's pastebin |
| 18:55 | * oleonard | wonders, git-bz = get busy? |
| 18:56 | cait | hehe |
| 18:56 | slef | oleonard: git-buzzed, being attacked by low-flying version control |
| 19:00 | tcohen: looks fine to me. Only thing I might change is to include $@ in the Error creating MARCXML... warn. | |
| 19:00 | cait | slef++ :) |
| 19:04 | tcohen | alright |
| 19:07 | slef | damn it, 140 lines of git-bz getting login cookies from browsers... it must be simpler to get it from python unless httplib2 is really awful |
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| 19:20 | rhcl | what might cause an error 500 - internal server error, when saving a new patron record? |
| 19:21 | library_systems_guy | database insert error? |
| 19:21 | cait | no idea |
| 19:21 | library_systems_guy | what does the log say? |
| 19:21 | cait | is there a message in the error log? |
| 19:21 | jinx? | |
| 19:21 | library_systems_guy | dang it... |
| 19:21 | * library_systems_guy | can't talk unless somebody unjinxes me |
| 19:21 | cait | oh |
| 19:21 | I am sorry | |
| 19:21 | didn't know that | |
| 19:22 | how do you unjinx? | |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea: help! | |
| 19:22 | wizzyrea | uh... |
| 19:22 | library_systems_guy library_systems_guy library_systems_guy | |
| 19:22 | maybe? | |
| 19:22 | library_systems_guy | YAYY |
| 19:22 | im saved | |
| 19:22 | * wizzyrea | didn't know which rules we were playing under :P |
| 19:23 | * library_systems_guy | will accept any rules that allow me to talk again :D |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | though she didn't say "triple padlock" so... |
| 19:23 | cait | ok, and now you have to explain that jinx thing to me again |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 19:23 | there's a kids game | |
| 19:23 | nengard | k - i'm missing something tini tiny here - i want a report of items that haven't circulated - i know there is a canned report but it doesn't let you download it - so I need to write on |
| 19:23 | SELECT b.title, i.itemcallnumber, i.barcode FROM issues left join items i using (itemnumber) left join biblio b using (biblionumber) WHERE i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT issues.itemnumber FROM issues) AND i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT old_issues.itemnumber FROM old_issues) | |
| 19:23 | this gets no results ... what am i missing | |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | nengard: isn't there one in the library for that? |
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| 19:24 | nengard | yes, but it's insanely complicated |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 19:24 | nengard | trying to simplify it |
| 19:24 | cait | let me look |
| 19:25 | hmhmhm | |
| 19:25 | so we want itemnumbers that are not in issues and oldissues right? | |
| 19:25 | nengard | and the one on the wiki doesn't work either ... fyi |
| 19:26 | cait yes, | |
| 19:26 | items that have never circulated | |
| 19:26 | the one on the wiki does work ... sorry | |
| 19:27 | cait | ok |
| 19:27 | nengard | larryb helped |
| 19:27 | SELECT b.title, i.itemcallnumber, i.barcode FROM items i left join issues using (itemnumber) left join biblio b using (biblionumber) WHERE i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT issues.itemnumber FROM issues) AND i.itemnumber NOT IN (SELECT old_issues.itemnumber FROM old_issues) | |
| 19:27 | woo hoo | |
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| 19:28 | slef | larryb helipad |
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| 19:29 | cait | wizzyrea: the jinx game? |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | right |
| 19:30 | so two people saying the same thinga t the same time, and if one person says "triple padlock" or "pinch poke owe me a coke" or summat before the other one does, the other person is jinxed until the conditions of the rule are met | |
| 19:30 | cait | ok |
| 19:30 | so you never say jinx actually? | |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | triple padlock means you have to say their name 3 times |
| 19:30 | no you do | |
| 19:30 | oleonard | Is the procedure for importing authority records in the manual? |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | whoever gets it out first + the rule, the other person is jinxed and can't talk |
| 19:31 | cait | ah |
| 19:31 | so I missed part of it | |
| 19:31 | how do you undo the coke thing? | |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | well yea, that's partly why I was confusticated ^.^ |
| 19:31 | oleonard | bulkmarcimport.pl does authorities too, correct? |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | buy them a coke I guess |
| 19:32 | cait | that one could get difficult to undo |
| 19:32 | oleonard: correct, you will need -a | |
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| 19:37 | tcohen | slef: i linked in the blog a modified version that adds $@ to the warn |
| 19:38 | already sent an email to koha-devel so others check it | |
| 19:39 | slef | tcohen: cool! |
| 19:44 | and in other news, it's crazy simple to get a bugzilla login cookie in python, so that's coming to git-bz when I get a round tuit | |
| 19:45 | bbl dinner | |
| 19:45 | library_systems_guy | w00t slef |
| 19:47 | slef | I'm thinking something like git config bz.username whatever ; git config bz.passcode whatever ; and then when you run git bz it replaces passcode with a login cookie |
| 19:47 | rangi | morning |
| 19:47 | rhcl | rangi |
| 19:47 | slef | so if someone gets your .git/config, you need to change your password but they don't actually know what it was, so they're limited to whatever git-bz can do |
| 19:48 | library_systems_guy | nice slef |
| 19:48 | * library_systems_guy | would greatly appreciate that |
| 19:49 | cait | ata marie rangi |
| 19:55 | library_systems_guy | I made a change to the wiki...can somebody do a sanity check? |
| 19:55 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git | |
| 19:55 | the See changes 'origin' Git repo from your branch section | |
| 19:56 | i added the last bit... | |
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| 19:57 | rangi | heya liw |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | looks ok to me |
| 19:57 | hi liw | |
| 19:57 | library_systems_guy | thanks wizzyrea |
| 20:00 | * liw | waves |
| 20:09 | tcohen | byeeee |
| 20:10 | rangi | my stop |
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| 20:14 | nengard is now known as nengard_afk | |
| 20:21 | rangi | back |
| 20:22 | * cait | waves |
| 20:22 | bg | hey cait :) |
| 20:22 | cait | hi bg :) |
| 20:22 | bg | @wunder 93109 |
| 20:22 | huginn` | bg: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 20.2�C (1:26 PM PDT on May 31, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | wb |
| 20:28 | slef | this is probably a silly question, but why does http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration say to install python-httplib2? git-bz doesn't use it AFAICS |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | it wouldn't work for me without it |
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| 20:29 | slef | hmm |
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| 20:53 | pianohacker | The last hill riding home from work is trying to kill me, I tell you |
| 20:53 | also, hi | |
| 20:54 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:54 | hi pianohacker | |
| 20:54 | pianohacker | how's it going, rangi? |
| 20:54 | rangi | not too bad, hows things with you? |
| 20:55 | pianohacker | pretty good, actually |
| 20:56 | lovely long weekend. Did you have any sort of holiday? | |
| 20:57 | Space_Librarian | we have one coming up, don't we, rangi? |
| 20:58 | pianohacker | hi spacelib |
| 20:58 | Space_Librarian | hi pianohacker |
| 20:58 | cycling up hills? ouch. O.o | |
| 20:59 | rangi | yeah next weekend |
| 21:00 | ibeardslee | Yay for Queenie |
| 21:00 | Space_Librarian | hooray for queenie indeedz1 |
| 21:01 | z1 = ! | |
| 21:01 | pianohacker | Space_Librarian: Downside of living next to these beautiful foothills :P |
| 21:02 | Space_Librarian | lol. yeah. My parents live on a deceptive steep hill. I find walking it less evil than riding, so more power to you. ;) |
| 21:05 | pianohacker | Heh, yeah. You can bike 10 miles of flat land as easy as walking 1 mile, but riding up a hill seems the exact opposite |
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| 21:09 | cait | eythian: around? |
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| 21:12 | rangi | not for another hour or so cait |
| 21:13 | cait | ok |
| 21:13 | probably going to miss him again :) | |
| 21:14 | but I added my comment on the bug :( probably not much more I can do. Someone else testing would be good | |
| 21:17 | rangi | right |
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| 21:39 | Brooke | kia ora |
| 21:42 | rangi | hiya Brooke |
| 21:42 | Brooke | :) |
| 21:43 | I've a question for the Library Open Source collective brain | |
| 21:44 | anyone know if anyone else ever took Fred Brown's proper indexing suggestions to heart? | |
| 21:44 | I'd love a nice botbi tool like Cindex but open source. | |
| 21:45 | http://www.allegrotechindexing[…]indexingtools.pdf | |
| 21:45 | for what I'm yappin' about. | |
| 21:45 | rangi | i can give you a free software answer |
| 21:45 | http://mako.cc/writing/hill-wh[…]_isnt_better.html | |
| 21:47 | id look at xapian | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | lol wow, wtf is going on with open office? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open[…]ffice-update/9025 |
| 21:49 | oracle has abandoned it, libre office is wildly successful, now apache's gonna give it a home? | |
| 21:49 | maybe it'll unfork with LO | |
| 21:50 | Brooke | could be wizzy |
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| 22:13 | Brooke | hey nate |
| 22:16 | You Might Be Lookin' at Redneck Territory when Google doesn't have Street View info, or even Street Info. | |
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| 22:17 | ibeardslee | wizzyrea: last I heard was that the LibreOffice folk were quite happy forked. |
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| 22:36 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5918] When AddPatronLists is set to "general" and EnhancedMessagingPreferences is set, messaging prefs not copied from defaults <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5918> |
| 22:40 | cait | good night |
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| 23:32 | pianohacker | rangi: around? |
| 23:32 | rangi | yep |
| 23:32 | pianohacker | rangi: testing 5918 for signoff, introduces whitespace errors. I'm testing the actual functionality, which looks kosher. Just not sure how picky I'm expected to be |
| 23:33 | rangi | you can be picky about the whitespace if you like :) normally i just fix it |
| 23:33 | but the functionality is the most important thing | |
| 23:33 | pianohacker | okay, cool |
| 23:33 | rangi | (trailing spaces bother me less than they bother git :)) |
| 23:36 | pianohacker | heh, no kidding. Never understood why it set off fire alarms; tabs/spaces mixing can be problematic, but not trailing spaces |
| 23:41 | rangi: push signed-off patch to bugzilla? | |
| 23:42 | rangi | yus please |
| 23:42 | pianohacker | aight |
| 23:42 | rangi | have you seen git-bz ? |
| 23:42 | to make doing that easier? | |
| 23:42 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration | |
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| 23:43 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 23:43 | druthb | hi, rangi! |
| 23:43 | Thanx for your tweet; Lindsey enjoyed getting messages from all over the world. :) you n Space_Librarian on one side, and cait on the other. | |
| 23:44 | rangi | cool |
| 23:44 | Space_Librarian | :) She had a good day? Tearful but good? |
| 23:44 | druthb | yes. Her friends and I took her to get Mongolian barbecue after; she loves that. |
| 23:45 | ibeardslee | mmmm .. is the Mongolian BBQ still going in Wellington? |
| 23:46 | pianohacker | rangi: yes, actually, saw wizzy talk about a while back. Hadn't seen that page, though, thanks |
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| 23:51 | * druthb | is bemused; she got a membership invite from the National Rifle Association--apparently, one of their magazines you can choose from is "America's 1st Freedom." Funny; I thought the First Amendment came first, not the Second.... |
| 23:54 | rangi | theres a great quote from Chief Joseph, of the Nez Perce |
| 23:54 | that brooke would know im sure | |
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| 23:55 | rangi | I claim a right to live on my land and accord you the privilege to return to yours. |
| 23:55 | which is arguably the first american freedom :) | |
| 23:55 | druthb | :) |
| 23:56 | ibeardslee | Robbie Robertson put that in one of his songs |
| 23:56 | rangi | he did |
| 23:56 | the entire speech in fact | |
| 23:56 | * ibeardslee | tries to remember the song |
| 23:56 | druthb | I wouldn't mind the NRA quite so much, truly I wouldn't, if they did what they say on paper that they do.l |
| 23:56 | ibeardslee | firing up Banshee |
| 23:57 | rangi | racing ya |
| 23:57 | druthb | ...but they chain the right to tote a gun to Repblican far-right conservatism, religion, and acute racism, waaaaay too much, when it comes to the local folx. |
| 23:57 | ibeardslee | Words of Fire Deeds of BlooD |
| 23:57 | rangi | words of fire, deeds of blood |
| 23:58 | you win | |
| 23:58 | http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Wor[…]lood/1TY8tt?src=5 | |
| 23:58 | ibeardslee | rangi: I have the album on my PC if you want to listen to the whole thing |
| 23:58 | rangi | i have the cd in my desk drawer |
| 23:59 | :) | |
| 23:59 | ibeardslee | it brings shivers down my spine |
| 23:59 | lifts the heart | |
| 23:59 | rangi | yeah, it is a good day to die is a powerful one |
| 23:59 | ibeardslee | oh yeah |
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