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02:37 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
02:37 | Space_Librarian | namaste kmkale |
02:38 | kmkale | Namaste Space_Librarian :) |
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02:38 | Brooke | 0/ |
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02:52 | kmkale | ping rangi |
02:53 | Space_Librarian | he's away until Tuesday |
02:55 | kmkale | aah thanks shelly |
02:55 | Space_Librarian | np :) |
02:56 | kmkale | India flight booked Space_Librarian ? |
02:57 | Space_Librarian | I wish. Still need to have my abstract in and be confirmed to speak before that can happen... :) |
02:58 | kmkale | Earlier you book, cheaper it is ;) |
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02:58 | Space_Librarian | I know, I know... |
02:59 | pianohacker | hi |
02:59 | Space_Librarian | hey pianohacker |
02:59 | wahanui | it has been said that pianohacker is our favorite boy genius or the genius who gave us our awesome ajax pref panel |
02:59 | kmkale | Namaste pianohacker |
02:59 | pianohacker | that dang thing |
02:59 | Brooke | hehehe |
02:59 | pianohacker | must reduce my bribe payments |
02:59 | kmkale | Namaste Brooke |
02:59 | pianohacker | hi brook, kmkale |
02:59 | Brooke | Namaskar |
02:59 | * Brooke | watched Asoka today. |
03:00 | kmkale | Brooke: The one with with Shaharukh ? |
03:00 | * Brooke | nods like a simpleton. |
03:00 | Brooke | he'd totally keynote for KohaCon ;) |
03:00 | kmkale | heh!! but the movie is pure BS!!! |
03:00 | Brooke | of *course* it is |
03:01 | kmkale | Brooke: flight booked? |
03:01 | Brooke | it's like saying that Blazing Saddles is historical |
03:01 | kmkale | :) |
03:01 | Brooke | not yet |
03:01 | I wanna do a wee bit more research | |
03:01 | I'm _prolly_ flying Turkish Air | |
03:01 | kmkale | on? |
03:01 | Space_Librarian | I have to convince my director to send me to India. |
03:01 | Brooke | but I wanna see if I can sweet talk them into letting me stay over a few days |
03:01 | so I can stop at Aphrodisias and Troy. | |
03:01 | kmkale | Space_Librarian: go for it whtacha waiting for? |
03:02 | Space_Librarian | our national library conference is on at the same time in the same city. Not precisely that easy. |
03:02 | kmkale | heh gr8 idea Brooke do see the dimonds in the sultans palace in Istanbul while u r at it |
03:03 | Brooke | of course |
03:03 | Kay would shoot me if I didn't see that and some of the rare manuscipts | |
03:03 | manuscripts even | |
03:03 | Space_Librarian | Brooke: very envious |
03:03 | Brooke | >:) |
03:04 | kmkale | I found turkish women to be more butiful than Europeans ;) |
03:04 | Brooke | Aphrodisias will prolly be a pita to get to, but surely, SURELY someone will see me and take pity on me ;) |
03:04 | no doubt. | |
03:04 | kmkale | :) |
03:05 | * kmkale | is getting some time off starting this weekend. Going to go after Koha people for papers and sponsors :) |
03:06 | Brooke | egggsellent. |
03:06 | Space_Librarian | I see there's a KOha workshop in July too |
03:06 | that's a good place to promo | |
03:06 | kmkale | where Space_Librarian ? |
03:06 | wahanui | Space_Librarian is a Koha poet or the sweetest lil lady you'll ever know |
03:06 | Brooke | ha bot's on a roll! |
03:06 | kmkale | yeah wahanui you got that one right!! |
03:06 | Space_Librarian | hang on. i'll find the link. it's in India |
03:07 | that quote has changed... | |
03:07 | Brooke | but who would do such a thing?! |
03:07 | kmkale | It must be the paid training OSS is conducting |
03:07 | * Brooke | is shocked SHOCKED that there is gambling here. |
03:08 | Space_Librarian | kmkale: http://koha-community.org/koha[…]zoram-university/ |
03:09 | kmkale | ohh. That is great because its in Mizoram!! |
03:09 | fantastic to see Koha reach :) | |
03:09 | Space_Librarian | I wasn't sure if you knew about it... |
03:10 | and June, not July, sorry... | |
03:10 | kmkale | Space_Librarian: been away for a few weeks on business. Not upto date on Koha news :( |
03:10 | Space_Librarian | well there's some good news for you then. :) |
03:12 | kmkale | yup. and thanks. Will write to them today to pass on the news about Kohacon to participants. Must see if indradg is involved in this workshop. He may be able to help. |
03:14 | * Brooke | loves it when a plan comes together |
03:14 | Brooke | right time to heal |
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03:15 | Space_Librarian | :) |
03:15 | kmkale | what plan? |
03:15 | wahanui | i heard plan was to modify web installer to translate templates during the installation process |
03:16 | kmkale | heh!! |
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03:27 | kmkale | yeah. Dropped a mail to organizers of the Mizoram workshop and also Savitra requesting them to inform participants about Kohacon11 and encourage them to attend :) |
03:27 | Hi AmitG | |
03:30 | eythian | kmkale: there's a koha workshop coming up in Malaysia, too |
03:30 | in case you want to tell even more people | |
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03:41 | kmkale | eythian: I do. Are you involved in that? |
03:42 | eythian | kmkale: yeah, I have to spend 5 days in a beach resort in Malaysia for it. It'll be terrible. |
03:42 | kmkale | :) so sorry for you ;) |
03:43 | eythian | Also, Irma and I are speaking/facilitating a 2 day koha workshop there (which preceeds a 3-day open source conference) |
03:43 | kmkale | could you please spread the word? |
03:43 | eythian | sure will |
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03:49 | kmkale_ | eythian: in case you need it here is the link http://kohacon11.vpmthane.org/ocs/index.php/k/k11 |
03:50 | @quote random | |
03:50 | huginn` | kmkale_: Quote #19: "<chris> i just want to yell things like don't kick the ball, pass it and Feed the backs" (added by jdavidb at 12:11 PM, July 27, 2009) |
03:50 | eythian | cool |
03:50 | kmkale_ | :) |
03:51 | ok. time to head for office. bbl.. | |
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03:56 | mtj | wizzyrea or rangi about for a quick Q? |
03:59 | eythian | rangi is away |
04:01 | Space_Librarian | don't think wizzyrea is up yet... |
04:02 | mtj | heya, ah - no probs |
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04:47 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6371] Item Types description not properly displayed if not pure ASCII <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6371> |
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04:57 | cait | good morning #koha |
04:57 | Space_Librarian | morning cait! |
04:57 | cait | :) |
05:00 | eythian | hi cait |
05:00 | cait | hi eythian |
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05:48 | mib_cdt | hi koha# |
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06:00 | cait | hi kmkale :) |
06:01 | kmkale | hi cait :) |
06:01 | mib_cdt | how can I customize the 'Add MARC Record' form in koha? |
06:03 | cait | mib_cdt: look ad administration > bibliographic marc frameworks |
06:03 | koha manual? | |
06:03 | manual? | |
06:03 | wahanui | i think manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
06:04 | cait | ah :) |
06:04 | and check the manual | |
06:06 | mib_cdt | but I dont want all the fields in default framework. can I set the marc entry fields in a single page? |
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06:09 | mib_cdt | I have created a new marc framework by deleting the fields not necessary for my library. |
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06:11 | mib_cdt | but all those are scattered in 9 tabs. It is difficult for entering data by selecting each tag. |
06:11 | Can I set up all these fields in a single pages? | |
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06:21 | cait | yes |
06:21 | change the tab values | |
06:21 | wahanui | cait: that doesn't look right |
06:21 | cait | forget yes |
06:21 | sorry, talking to wahanui | |
06:22 | in the bibliographic frameworks is also defined on which tab a field shows up | |
06:22 | you can put them all on one tag | |
06:22 | tab | |
06:23 | eythian | wahanui: literal yes |
06:23 | wahanui | eythian: i'm not following you... |
06:23 | eythian | wahanui: yes |
06:23 | wahanui | eythian: what? |
06:24 | cait | change the values |
06:24 | wahanui | cait: that doesn't look right |
06:24 | eythian | how odd |
06:24 | cait | forget change the values |
06:24 | wahanui | cait: that doesn't look right |
06:24 | eythian | I think it's a module |
06:24 | cait | forget cait:? |
06:25 | eythian | I think you need to use the name for operations like that. |
06:25 | cait | wahanui: forget change the values |
06:25 | wahanui | cait, I didn't have anything matching change the values |
06:25 | cait | ok, I give up |
06:25 | mib_cdt | cait: how can I put them all in one tag? |
06:26 | cait | change the tab value in the subfields definition |
06:26 | wahanui | cait: that doesn't look right |
06:27 | cait | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]marcbibframeworks |
06:27 | look for 'managed in tab' | |
06:27 | and don't delete fields from the default frameworks | |
06:28 | better hide them or even better create your own frameworks | |
06:30 | ok, restarting to find out if the updates killed that grub thing again | |
06:30 | bbl | |
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06:31 | mib_cdt | ok thanks cait |
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06:35 | cait | yay :) |
06:35 | laptop survived updating this time | |
06:35 | eythian | awesome :) |
06:35 | cait | hehe |
06:35 | last 2 times I updated I ended up on command line with a blinking grub> | |
06:36 | know it's not what normally should happen | |
06:36 | ok | |
06:36 | time for work | |
06:36 | eythian | no, that's not so normal |
06:37 | cait | this laptop is really old, probably something in the hardware ubuntu is not too happy about? |
06:37 | but it works now, so all is ok :) | |
06:37 | have a nice evening eythian | |
06:37 | eythian | you too ;) |
06:38 | cait | thx ;) |
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07:06 | magnuse | bonjour biblibre |
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07:23 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6365] Missing information about tab number when mandatory fields unfilled <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6365> |
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07:34 | eythian | packages for 3.4 are coming together. |
07:34 | magnuse | yay! |
07:34 | 3.4 or 3.4.1? | |
07:35 | eythian | at the moment they apply against both master and 3.4.x |
07:35 | so I'll make them for 3.4.1 when it's out, all going well. | |
07:36 | among other things, it adds /usr/sbin/koha-upgrade-to-3.4 which does the items removing stuff. | |
07:36 | magnuse | cool |
07:37 | eythian | and when you install it, it tells you that you should run that if you're upgrading. |
07:37 | magnuse | nice |
07:37 | eythian | hoping to get the patches out, and a build against master in the -dev repo for people to try out. |
07:38 | magnuse | i cant wait to have a go at creating packages that has norwegian tranlsations |
07:38 | eythian | yeah, I really want to make language packs, so you can install koha-translations-no for example. |
07:38 | magnuse | that would be sooo cool |
07:39 | if i had lots of cash lying around i would have been happy to fund that... | |
07:40 | eythian | yeah, same here if I had lots of spare time :) |
07:40 | magnuse | :-) |
07:40 | eythian | I really need to get this finished tonight as tomorrow I just realised I'm going to be away for most of the day helping out at a career expo. |
07:40 | magnuse | do you know if it will be hard to do? |
07:42 | eythian | I don't think it would be terribly difficult. Doing the first one would be hard, but the rest would be copy-paste. |
07:43 | magnuse | hehe, skip the first one and go straight to the second, then... |
07:44 | eythian | so wise :) |
07:44 | magnuse | thanks ;-) |
07:44 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4513] Resetting framework to Default seems impossible <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4513> |
07:45 | eythian | I think it's just a matter of generating the translations during the build process, and writing them into their own package. |
07:48 | magnuse | so one package per language? |
07:48 | eythian | yeah |
07:48 | magnuse | seems to me that makes it hard to update translations... |
07:49 | could it be possible to build on the translate script, so you had a command that installed new translations? | |
07:49 | eythian | there's no reason to not be able to do both. |
07:49 | magnuse | without requiring a new package for every iteration of a translation? |
07:49 | cool | |
07:50 | eythian | My thinking was that there could be a set of standard translations that come from git like normal and become packages. Then perhaps a script that alters them for local changes or something. |
07:50 | I'm not quite sure how to handle merging that with updates though. | |
07:51 | magnuse | ooh, sounds like a good idea, for sure! |
07:51 | yeah, updates might be a problem... | |
07:51 | eythian | but at the least I'd like to have it building the ones that are in git. |
07:52 | (although, I'd have to study up on how translations work first) | |
07:52 | magnuse | :-) |
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07:55 | eythian | hmm, curious error in a zebra rebuild: |
07:55 | problem with :36093 : Field 111 must have indicators (use ' ' for empty indicators) at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/SAX.pm line 92 | |
07:55 | where 111 is | |
07:55 | <datafield tag="111" ind1="2" ind2=" "> | |
07:55 | </datafield> | |
07:55 | I wonder if it's unhappy about having no subfields (which is a legitimate issue I guess.) | |
07:57 | magnuse | weird that the error is " must have indicators" if the subfields are the problem? |
07:57 | eythian | yeah |
07:57 | but, it has indicators... | |
07:57 | magnuse | yeah |
07:58 | and it looks like empty indicators shouldn't be a problem | |
07:58 | eythian | yeah |
07:59 | Going to try it again using usmarc instead of XML | |
07:59 | magnuse | worth a try |
07:59 | #marcmustdie | |
08:00 | eythian | hehe, full agreement from me there |
08:01 | well that's odd, I get the same error when doing it with usmarc. Though, it didn't seem to cause it to die. | |
08:01 | and it still gave an XML dump. | |
08:01 | I'm surprised I haven't seen that before. | |
08:01 | magnuse | wow, that sounds weird |
08:01 | eythian | oh wait... |
08:02 | it's not the rebuild that's doing that, it's the items thing | |
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09:12 | eythian | 3.4 master packages published into squeeze-devfor anyone who wants to give the new bits a test run. |
09:12 | now I can go home. | |
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09:29 | magnuse | good night eythian :-) |
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10:05 | druthb | o/ |
10:06 | hdl1 | hi druthb |
10:11 | druthb | hi, hdl1. :) |
10:26 | kmkale | hi druthb |
10:26 | hi hdl1 | |
10:28 | * druthb | waves to kmkale |
10:30 | kmkale | :) |
10:36 | matts: did you work on CAS auth code? | |
10:36 | hdl1 | kmkale: yes he ded |
10:37 | did | |
10:37 | I will ask him to answer you | |
10:37 | kmkale | I have got CAS auth and SSO working |
10:37 | but I am having trouble with single sign out | |
10:37 | need help | |
10:38 | please hdl1 much appreciated if he can chat and give me a few tips | |
10:53 | matts around? | |
10:53 | @seen matts | |
10:53 | huginn` | kmkale: matts was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <matts> hello #koha |
10:54 | kmkale | ouch!! |
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11:33 | matts | hello kmkale |
11:33 | what is your problem exactly ? | |
11:35 | wizzyrea | hi |
11:35 | wahanui | privet, wizzyrea |
11:35 | kmkale | hi matts |
11:35 | I have CAS + Koha single sign on working | |
11:35 | But can't get the single sign out working | |
11:36 | matts | ok |
11:36 | kmkale | When a user signs out of CAS s/he is not signed out of Koha |
11:36 | matts | there's a syspref that disconnect from the whole CAS authentication if you disconnect from koha... |
11:36 | oh, it's the opposite you want, i see | |
11:36 | kmkale | Yes that works fine |
11:37 | when I log out of Koha, I get logged out of CAS too | |
11:37 | but if I log out of CAS I don't get loggged out of Koha | |
11:37 | yup | |
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11:38 | matts | hmmm, let me check |
11:38 | kmkale | CAS server calls the service url registered with the ticket e.g. "POST /cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl HTTP/1.1" 200 8537 "-" "Java/1.5.0_22" |
11:38 | but it seems this POST is not handled in Koha | |
11:39 | matts | yeah, you're probably right, i don't remember implementing such thing |
11:39 | kmkale | since Koha's logout url is different e.g. /cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl?logout.x=1 |
11:40 | Is it possible to handle the POST in opac-user.pl and logout the user? If yes how? | |
11:44 | matts | hmm, my first guess would be to tweak opac-user.pl to catch that post, then modify C4/Auth_with_cas.pm to disconnect the user when such a POST is caught. |
11:46 | kmkale | been looking at both files. Can't figure out how to catch the POST and the security assertion it contains. :( |
11:55 | matts | the trick is that the CAS server i used when coding CAS authentication does not seem to support single-sign-out... |
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11:56 | kf | hi #koha |
11:56 | druthb | hi, kf. :) |
11:57 | conan | good morning all |
12:00 | kf | hi druthb and conan |
12:01 | kmkale | matts: there is a additional configuration to be done for single sign out as shown in https://wiki.jasig.org/display[…]g+Single+Sign+Out |
12:03 | matts | yeah, but i used esup cas server |
12:03 | http://esup-casgeneric.sourceforge.net/index.html | |
12:04 | And unfortunately, i've got no time right now to enhance the CAS feature | |
12:04 | kmkale | If you can tell me how to catch the POST in opac-user.pl, I can attempt to hack it from there |
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12:07 | matts | kmkale, problem is i don't know what's in that logout post... |
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12:08 | kmkale | humph. How do I generally catch a POST request in opac-user.pl? as separate from the usual GET once we get in the query parameter? |
12:13 | matts | hmm, i guess it's the same : $query->param('myparam'); |
12:13 | But I don't know what's the name of the parameter to look for to, nor the content it's supposed to have | |
12:14 | kmkale | ohh.. |
12:15 | matts | And I had a quick look on the internet to find out, but couldn't find any usefull info |
12:15 | kmkale | Ok. I will attempt too write a generic client and catch the POST and then see whats inside. by looping over the params. ( If such a thing is possible ) |
12:16 | there are enough example clients around which I can hack | |
12:16 | matts | yes, such a thing is possible |
12:16 | but finding a spec sheet would be better, imho | |
12:17 | kmkale | :) always |
12:17 | matts | anyhow, I'd be glad to hear back from you on that subject |
12:17 | kmkale | sure. And thanks matts |
12:17 | matts | np, good luck :) |
12:44 | conan | how what's that cite about mad library schemes? |
12:45 | I think I have finally grasped the circulation rules inner working | |
12:45 | and now I know I cannot use it without source modification, unless I'm completely wrong, of course | |
12:46 | what we need here is this schema: | |
12:46 | if patron is from library A and item is from library A, patron can take 4 items | |
12:47 | (I'm simplfying the item part, assuming is the same) | |
12:47 | druthb | @quote search scheme |
12:47 | huginn` | druthb: 1 found: #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad..." |
12:47 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn`. |
12:47 | druthb | @quote get 123 |
12:47 | huginn` | druthb: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
12:47 | conan | if patron is from libA and item is from libB, patron can take 4 items |
12:48 | but if patron is from libA and item is from libB, AND patron already checked out 4 items from libA, he can only take 3 items from libB, for a total of 7 items | |
12:49 | I thought I could implement that by using default_borrower_circ_rules | |
12:50 | but I never reach them because we need to establish the rules for every library, and so, Circulation->GetIssuingRule always matches something | |
12:50 | yeah, the 123 quote! that's easy to remember | |
12:51 | druthb | conan: the biggest part of what you want that is foreign to Koha is "the patron is from..." As I said yesterday (was it yesterday?), the circ map doesn't know or care about that. Once you get that in there, both in issuingrules and in default_borrower_circ_rules, then what you want should be doable. |
12:51 | conan | so I need normal circulation rules plus... |
12:51 | one rule to check for a grand total | |
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12:52 | conan | druthb: hum... if you choose PatronLibrary for CircControl then you get branch from patron to check |
12:53 | the check for an issuing rules is like this: | |
12:54 | select ... where categorycode = ? and itemtype = ? and branchcode = ? | |
12:54 | druthb | yes, but then you don't have "the item is from..." |
12:54 | CircControl lets you do one or the other, but not both. | |
12:55 | * druthb | normally sets CircControl to item library, in her installations, since setting it to patron library breaks minds a lot. |
12:56 | conan | I'm not sure I'm following you, are you telling me that this cannot be done the way koha works currently? |
12:57 | druthb | No, I'm telling you that "is from library X" is either a patron thing, or an item thing, in the circ rules, depending on CircControl, but both is not in there. There are workarounds--if you make sure that all patron categories are filled with people from a single library, then you could set CircControl to items, and get it to do what you want. |
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12:58 | conan | impossible |
12:58 | druthb | You can easily say that "patron of category X can borrow no more than Z items from library Y", if you've got patron categories set up for that. |
12:58 | conan | my patrons need to belong to a library |
12:58 | druthb | They will belong to a library, sure. but all of the patrons in category X need to belong to the *same* library. |
13:00 | conan | hum... that will add complexity, I will need to set a different category for each same kind of patron to differentiate library they belong to |
13:00 | druthb | Each patron will still have a branchcode, just as each item will still have a homebranch. But one or the other of those branch codes is *not* going to be a factor in the circ map, as currently coded. By making the categories monolithic, you work around it without adding the complexity into the circ map. |
13:01 | yep. It's not going to be *easy*, any way you go at it. | |
13:01 | conan | crap! |
13:01 | what about default_borrower_circ_rules? are they only used if I don't have anything defined previously? | |
13:01 | druthb | Build complex categories, or add a whole heap of complex code to the circ map, or convince libraries to simplify their circ rules. (I've done the latter, more than once, but have done some of the first one, too) |
13:02 | default_borrower_circ_rules primarily sets the maxima for a library--you use it to say, for library Y, a patron of category X may have no more than Z total items." | |
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13:06 | conan | druthb++ |
13:06 | tough you didn't give me good news :P | |
13:07 | I think I'll try to modify function TooMany | |
13:07 | druthb | thanx. With that much complexity outside the system (in the librarian's head), then you're not going to have it easy *inside* the system, either. |
13:07 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
13:07 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
13:07 | * druthb | waves, and hits the door. |
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13:08 | wizzyrea | bye! |
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13:08 | conan | well maybe I put it complex, but in fact it's easy: we want to allow same quantity of books from each library, but we don't want an user to loan the maximum from all of them (there are 18 libraries currently, and they work as single system) |
13:09 | so that's why we need a grand total maximum | |
13:09 | so nobody can checkout 4 items x 18 libraries = 72 items | |
13:09 | (and then run away :P ) | |
13:10 | wizzyrea | what system are you coming from? |
13:11 | conan | wizzyrea: a bunch, I don't know them all yet |
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13:11 | wizzyrea | ah |
13:11 | Brooke | 0/ |
13:11 | conan | some homemade |
13:11 | wizzyrea | hi brooke :) |
13:11 | conan | hi Brooke |
13:12 | * conan | dives into Circulation.pm code |
13:12 | Brooke | <3 |
13:12 | wizzyrea | better get your hipwaders on ;) |
13:12 | * wizzyrea | teases |
13:13 | jwagner | Morning all. Has anyone tried RSS feeds in Chrome? Unlike Firefox or IE, it doesn't ask you for a reader or subscription info, it just displays the feed immediately to the screen. |
13:13 | wizzyrea | ya, it's mildly annoying. |
13:13 | jwagner | I don't see anything in bugzilla referencing Chrome -- not sure if anyone has run into it before |
13:13 | wizzyrea | but I think that's chrome, not koha |
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13:13 | wizzyrea | i.e. firefox knows what to do with RSS feeds, chrome is not so smart |
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13:14 | jwagner | that's what I was thinking. Worth a bug report? I doubt there's anything that can be done on the Koha end, but I know little/nothing about RSS in the first place |
13:15 | wizzyrea | right, um... I don't think so because we're really waiting on chrome to get it's act together in that regard |
13:15 | I suppose we could hassle the chrome people about it :) | |
13:15 | jwagner | Nah.... |
13:17 | Do you know if Chrome has problems with RSS from other sites? Not sure where to test that offhand. | |
13:17 | hdl1 | conan: I hope the water is not too cool |
13:17 | wizzyrea | yea, afaik it's every rss feed |
13:18 | jwagner | Yeah, just found another site & tested. Oh, well. Thanks. |
13:20 | wizzyrea | i like chrome, but sometimes it's lacking in (what I consider) basic functionality, such as "sanely handling rss feeds" |
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13:25 | hdl1 | conan: it is done in biblibre git repository |
13:25 | hope that helps. enjoy | |
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13:51 | gmcharlt | https://github.com/liblime/Lib[…]e233f913e08e204a5 |
13:52 | Brooke | teee hee |
13:52 | menfolk | |
13:52 | * Brooke | laughs behind her hand. |
13:53 | gmcharlt | Brooke: apropos of? |
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13:53 | * Brooke | gets on back to beadin'. |
13:53 | * wizzyrea | looks at the last 3 years, wonders what she's been working on. |
13:53 | vfernandes | hi Koha community |
13:54 | magnuse | hi vfernandes |
13:54 | vfernandes | one little thing: Koha allows multi-edition of biblio records? change one field in all records? |
13:58 | wizzyrea | batch edit biblio? not yet. batch edit items? Yep |
13:58 | vfernandes | i know that edit items it's possible... |
13:59 | magnuse | LibLime Koha 4.2 eh? did i miss that or is it really fresh? |
13:59 | wizzyrea | quite fresh |
13:59 | vfernandes | batch edit biblio would be a nice add to Koha :) |
13:59 | wizzyrea | yep |
13:59 | Brooke | deleting contribs = very fresh, indeed. |
13:59 | magnuse | Brooke: hehe |
14:00 | wizzyrea | cheeky, even. And not in a cute way. |
14:00 | magnuse | yeah |
14:00 | and the-website-that-shall-not-be-mentioned has finally been completely butchered... | |
14:00 | sekjal | "Based on the ground-breaking 3.0 platform" |
14:01 | magnuse | it ain't hip to be square... |
14:01 | oh well, not gonna waste energy on that | |
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14:02 | Brooke | 0/ |
14:04 | hdl1 | hi Brooke |
14:04 | Brooke | :D |
14:04 | bonjour! | |
14:04 | hdl1 | wizzyrea: vfernandes : we proposed to the community batch edit of biblios |
14:05 | wizzyrea | hdl: I remember |
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14:12 | vfernandes | batch edit of biblios is not something trivial to do... |
14:13 | hdl1 | vfernandes: nope... |
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14:16 | adnc | rangi ping! |
14:16 | jwagner | wizzyrea, one of my sites has pointed me to an add-on for Chrome that lets it handle RSS feeds: https://chrome.google.com/webs[…]nmkbbbdekmmmcbfjd |
14:16 | wizzyrea | adnc, he's sleeping |
14:16 | paul_p | I really love this commit : https://github.com/liblime/Lib[…]e233f913e08e204a5 :((((((( |
14:16 | wizzyrea | oo, good one |
14:16 | nice find | |
14:16 | adnc | does someone know if koha 3.4 is available with debian packages meanwhile? |
14:16 | wizzyrea thanks ;) | |
14:16 | wizzyrea | I believe the commit for that just came through to open that up |
14:16 | * wizzyrea | checks |
14:17 | wizzyrea | yea, bug 6361 |
14:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6361 enhancement, P5, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Packages need support for the 3.4 upgrade |
14:17 | adnc | ohh so it is available |
14:17 | nice | |
14:17 | wizzyrea | well I don't know about available |
14:17 | but work is commencing | |
14:18 | hdl1 | jwagner: hi |
14:18 | jwagner | hi |
14:18 | adnc | i see 3.2.9 is available |
14:19 | but not 3.4 | |
14:19 | wizzyrea | adnc: I sense that the release of the 3.4 packages is imminent |
14:19 | but perhaps not quite yet | |
14:19 | maybe later today | |
14:19 | adnc | that would be great |
14:20 | wizzyrea | that's a pretty big maybe |
14:20 | as in "things look like they're progressing, but I really have no timeline" | |
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14:38 | library_systems_guy | where has nengard been lately |
14:38 | wizzyrea | travelling ;) |
14:38 | hi oleonard | |
14:38 | library_systems_guy | aww man |
14:38 | Brooke | 0/ |
14:40 | library_systems_guy | so i was talking to hdl last night and it reminded me that during nengards training session she mentioned a library in the US that had implemented Drupal and Koha with SOPAC |
14:40 | does anybody know what that library is? | |
14:40 | kf | hm |
14:41 | I remember something with f | |
14:41 | wizzyrea | darienlibrary? |
14:41 | kf | ah, in the us |
14:41 | ignor eme | |
14:41 | library_systems_guy | lol well maybe im mistaken about the US bit |
14:42 | but darien library looks very drupal-ish | |
14:42 | wizzyrea | i believe sopac was originally developed by Darien |
14:42 | http://thesocialopac.net/forum/16 | |
14:42 | er | |
14:42 | forget the forum bit :P | |
14:42 | http://thesocialopac.net/ | |
14:42 | library_systems_guy | yeah that is what i have been reading for pointers |
14:43 | kf | library_systems_guy: seen that? http://www.slideshare.net/nico[…]-drupal-at-elag09 |
14:43 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'that', kf |
14:43 | wizzyrea | forget that |
14:43 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot that |
14:43 | wizzyrea | that is <reply> |
14:43 | library_systems_guy | i haven't seen that |
14:43 | thanks kf | |
14:43 | wizzyrea | ah nicomo, I miss that guy |
14:43 | i hear he's doing well hto | |
14:43 | tho* | |
14:47 | kf | ok, bye all :) |
14:47 | library_systems_guy | bye kf |
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14:58 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6373] The mandatory fields validation popup doesn't appear in IE8 <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6373> |
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15:02 | Oak | \o |
15:02 | Brooke | 0/ |
15:02 | Oak | Brooke !!! how are you? still awesome? |
15:02 | * Brooke | blushes. |
15:03 | Oak | :) |
15:08 | wizzyrea | hmm |
15:08 | how can you make a field in the add items page mandatory (such as "collection code" | |
15:08 | ) | |
15:08 | I tried editing the frameworks with the ccode subfield mandatory | |
15:08 | but it doesn't seem to stick | |
15:09 | rather, no value seems to be a valid value, thus it's always filled in even if it's not | |
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15:10 | NCARMichael | hi peeps |
15:10 | topic of today's inquiry: patron batch upload | |
15:10 | wizzyrea | hi NCARMichael |
15:11 | NCARMichael | hi wiz |
15:11 | i've got the xls file open here (CSV file with all the columns) | |
15:11 | trying to figure out which one is OPAC Login. | |
15:12 | "userID" perhaps? | |
15:12 | wizzyrea | I think so, I'd have to check though |
15:12 | one mo | |
15:14 | jwagner | Yes, userid is the OPAC login. Also the staff login if it's a staff account. |
15:14 | wizzyrea | there you have it ;) |
15:14 | NCARMichael | okay, cool. |
15:15 | and can i delete columns that i'm not using? or should i just leave em there. | |
15:15 | wizzyrea | leave em |
15:15 | NCARMichael | okay |
15:15 | i'll try a sample and see if it works. | |
15:16 | ttyl. grassy ass. | |
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15:16 | Brooke | ha |
15:16 | wizzyrea | lol, grassy ass? |
15:16 | Brooke | gracias |
15:16 | wizzyrea | that's a new one |
15:16 | hmm | |
15:16 | perhaps that doesn't translate so well into text >.> | |
15:16 | jwagner | Too late. If you leave columns in place, and there's no data in them, and you're matching existing patrons, it wipes those fields |
15:17 | * wizzyrea | checks her rear for grass |
15:17 | wizzyrea | that is a good thing to know |
15:17 | jwagner | Update .csv files should only include the fields that you want to update. |
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15:21 | sekjal | hdl1: is aqorderdelivery deprecated? |
15:21 | hdl1 | missing him too. |
15:21 | oopps | |
15:22 | was refering to wizzyrea and nicomo | |
15:22 | i think so.... At least i have never seen that used on our instances... | |
15:22 | sekjal | it's only used in reports/acquisitions-stats.pl |
15:22 | hdl1 | this is why we dropped that. |
15:23 | Brooke | five guys is callin' mah name again. |
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15:24 | sekjal | hmmm, I was thinking of putting the voucher number into the aqorderdelivery table, but if it's not used anywhere, there wouldn't be much point |
15:27 | conan | hdl1: I just read your comment, what's done in biblibre repo? |
15:27 | hdl1 | C4/Circulation.pm, network limitations |
15:28 | the voucher number ? you mean invoice number ? | |
15:29 | sekjal | hdl1: no, there is also an invoice number in the incoming data |
15:29 | invoice corresponds to the bill, and voucher (I think) to the payment | |
15:29 | hdl1 | o k |
15:29 | sekjal | so I'm going to try mapping vouchernumber to aqorders.purchaseordernumber |
15:30 | conan | hdl1: I mean your comment: 10:28:27 hdl1 | conan: it is done in biblibre git repository |
15:30 | after my talk to druthb | |
15:30 | hdl1 | sekjal: I would be quite interested to see the indian work on acquisitions |
15:30 | conan: C4/Circulation.pm, network limitations | |
15:30 | (what you said you wanted to do) | |
15:30 | sekjal | hdl1: me, too |
15:30 | * conan | checks biblibre repo... |
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15:36 | oleonard | Bug 6374 was a good catch |
15:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6374 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , Use "size" as names/hash keys leads to an unexpected results when using Template::Toolkit (name of a virtual method there) |
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15:44 | oleonard | I'm confused by the mail on the Koha list, "MARC view in OPAC won't switch off" |
15:45 | Local Use OPACviewMARC preference? | |
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16:05 | sekjal | sounds like some kind of deprecated feature... checking git.k-c |
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16:12 | sekjal | oleonard: I'm only seeing reference to it in some of the translated system preference files. |
16:15 | oleonard | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ember/013315.html |
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16:26 | cait | hi #koha |
16:27 | jwagner | hi cait |
16:27 | cait | hi jwagner :) |
16:29 | jwagner | cait, I was dreaming in German last night, and I have no idea why. I even understood it! |
16:29 | cait | and you are sure it was German? :) |
16:30 | jwagner | Sure sounded like it! |
16:30 | und Ich verstehe | |
16:30 | (sort of) | |
16:30 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
16:30 | hehe | |
16:30 | wizzyrea | ?! |
16:30 | cait | was it nice or more a nightmare? |
16:30 | your tweet | |
16:30 | wizzyrea | OH Yes. :) |
16:30 | cait | speaks right from my heart |
16:31 | jwagner | Kind of neutral. I've also been known to dream in Perl. My sleeping brain is a much better linguist than my awake brain. |
16:31 | wizzyrea | i bet you've solved lots of problems that way :) |
16:31 | cait | when I have a programming problem I can't solve I always dream about it |
16:32 | weird dreams, like walking in labyrinths | |
16:32 | wizzyrea | mine are always in metaphors |
16:32 | jwagner | Yes, I've often dreamed about programming problems, and woke up with a solution in mind. Useful talent :-) |
16:33 | wizzyrea | the dog = the problem whatever he's chasing = the solution, for example |
16:39 | rhcl | If we wanted to create a menu item in Koha with multiselect, what is the current best practices--to use a shift-click for multiple items in the menu, or to have two fields, one listing all possible options with highlighting of items and moving them to the next field? |
16:39 | wizzyrea | 2nd has more occurrences |
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16:40 | cait | guided reports? |
16:40 | rhcl | aogle: I just asked what the best method for multiselect is |
16:40 | oleonard | rhcl: I don't think you can reasonably ask many users to "shift-click" |
16:40 | cait | does second I think |
16:40 | redmine does the shift click thing | |
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16:40 | oleonard | Notices is another place that does multiselect |
16:41 | cait | our new ticket syste, I like it, but perhaps owen is right |
16:41 | wizzyrea | i personally prefer moving them, less chance for error |
16:41 | rhcl | my inclination is to do shift or control-click, cause the code is easier :) |
16:42 | but if the other method is preferable.... | |
16:42 | oleonard | Yeah, selecting a bunch of things and then losing your selection is a pain |
16:43 | rhcl | 'k. It's settled then. |
16:43 | wizzyrea | just curious what's it for? |
16:45 | * oleonard | is reminded of Bug 3125 |
16:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3125 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, NEW , IE7: Selected columns list in Reports Dictionary is not showing column names. |
16:45 | rhcl | When we run tools->export (export.pl), we need the ability to pull multiple items from the itemtype, 'cause we have both books and magazines in the same db, with magazines identified by itemtype magazine, and when we do an OCLC pull we need to get everything but magazines |
16:45 | wizzyrea | aha |
16:49 | oleonard | Who's playing version numbering games wizzyrea ? |
16:50 | * cait | wondered too |
16:53 | oleonard | PTFS-- |
16:53 | Liblime-- | |
16:54 | saying_fuck_you_to_the_community-- | |
16:55 | conan | by doing: git remote add biblibre git://git.koha-community.org/wip/koha-biblibre.git |
16:56 | Am I really getting the biblibre repo? | |
16:56 | or is in some other place? | |
16:56 | I added it, I fetched, and then I checked out some branch from biblibre | |
16:57 | sekjal | conan: that's the copy of their repo on the Koha git site. they have their own repo, as well |
16:57 | conan | but I can't find what hdl told me is there |
16:57 | sekjal: hum... and the copy is updated? | |
16:57 | sekjal | found at: git://git.biblibre.com/koha_biblibre.git |
16:57 | not sure if the Koha site repo is synced to the biblibre.com repo, or how often | |
16:58 | * conan | is cloning... |
16:59 | cait | conan: there is a page on the wiki with the urls of the public repos |
17:01 | conan | cait: I was checking this one: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ |
17:02 | cait | conan: was talking about the wiki.koha-community.org |
17:05 | conan | cait: you mean this one ? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Git_Repositories |
17:05 | cait | yep |
17:05 | conan | the url from sekjal is not there |
17:05 | only the local copies | |
17:05 | oleonard | Anyone know how get a list of bugs which *don't* have a dependency? |
17:06 | conan | cait: scratch taht |
17:06 | cait | oleonard: never tried it sorry |
17:07 | * oleonard | would like to filter out such bugs from the "needs signoff" report |
17:07 | cait | have you looked at the advanced options? |
17:07 | sekjal | oleonard: under Custom Search in advanced search, you can match on 'depends on' 'is equal to' and then a blank |
17:07 | cait | you want to get rid of those that are blocked by something else, right? |
17:08 | oleonard | sekjal: Oh, a blank will work? |
17:08 | sekjal | yes, I believe so |
17:08 | did this search: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]&type0-0-0=equals | |
17:08 | and got some results instead of an error | |
17:08 | though I think it may be the OPPOSITE of what I was after.... hmmm | |
17:09 | oh, phooey, nevermind.... doesnt' work like that | |
17:09 | perhaps as a regex to match digits? | |
17:09 | oleonard | Yeah, it didn't change the number of results |
17:10 | The bigger problem is that all the stuff on the signoff list is *hard* | |
17:10 | sekjal | perhaps 'is greater than 1'? |
17:12 | * conan | sees beautiful code @ biblibre |
17:12 | conan | hdl++ |
17:15 | gotta run, bye | |
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17:16 | vfernandes | bye people :) |
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17:43 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6375] Markup and style corrections for overdue report <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6375> |
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18:54 | wizzyrea | hi hankbank :) |
19:17 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6346] Patron search results should be valigned top <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6346> |
19:23 | magnuse | g'night #koha |
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19:27 | cait | sweet dreams magnuse |
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19:41 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6309] subscription table sorter in the opac <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6309> |
19:42 | oleonard | ^ new and improved. |
19:42 | cait | :) |
19:42 | oleonard | And by "improved" I mean "not broken." |
19:44 | cait | fixing_things++ |
19:44 | oleonard++ | |
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19:47 | cait | one bug signed off... where is the next |
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19:50 | rangi | yay finally |
19:51 | * rangi | wanders off to breakfast |
19:53 | cait | ? |
19:53 | * cait | wonders if this was a rangi ghost |
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20:08 | larryb | .part |
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20:13 | joethoks | sue the bastards |
20:13 | oh and hello | |
20:14 | wizzyrea | heh |
20:18 | * oleonard | decides to replace all of Koha's audio cues with sound effects from 8-bit video games |
20:18 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
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20:24 | joethoks | quake? |
20:24 | oleonard | quake isn't 8-bit, but I'm all for it |
20:25 | cait | pong? |
20:25 | wizzyrea | shooting the bejesus out of aliens seems appealing right now |
20:25 | erm, extraterrestrial aliens, that is. | |
20:26 | check out "bleep!" | |
20:26 | check in "bloop!" | |
20:26 | hold found "beep boop beep!" | |
20:27 | cait | hmpf |
20:27 | oleonard: still around? | |
20:27 | oleonard | Yes |
20:27 | cait | I am looking at 6347 |
20:27 | bug 6347 | |
20:27 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6347 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW , Bug in opac-reserve.pl stopping item level holds |
20:28 | cait | and the item level hold option shows up but the table seems to be very broken |
20:28 | and I can't save it saying that I have not chosen an item | |
20:28 | weird | |
20:29 | oleonard | I can look at it tomorrow. I have to leave now. |
20:29 | * oleonard | shall return. |
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20:29 | cait | k |
20:30 | it blocks another sign-off | |
20:30 | and it's evil | |
20:30 | have a nice evening :) | |
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20:43 | joethoks | quake is the one with all the splats and blooches |
21:01 | rhcl | http://sethgodin.typepad.com/s[…]-the-library.html |
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21:56 | wizzyrea | bbl friends :) |
21:57 | rhcl | bye |
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23:30 | sekjal | good evening, #koha |
23:31 | Space_Librarian | evening sekjal |
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