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| 01:21 | glernil | good day! |
| 01:21 | ;) | |
| 01:23 | rangi | hi glernil |
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| 02:06 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5860] Adding duplicate stocknumber will fail silently <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5860> |
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| 02:23 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:24 | wizzyrea | o/ |
| 02:24 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 02:24 | and wizzyrea | |
| 02:24 | wahanui | wizzyrea is a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet |
| 02:24 | rangi | how was dinner druthb ? |
| 02:24 | druthb | hi! :) |
| 02:24 | yummy. I fear that Brooke is conspiring with *someone* to get me out of the house more. | |
| 02:25 | If I find out who it is, I shall either kiss them, or hand them my over-full to-do list and say "here, then, you take care of this stuff," depending... | |
| 02:25 | rangi | hehe |
| 02:26 | * druthb | has a list of suspects. |
| 02:26 | rangi | its probably wizzyrea |
| 02:26 | druthb | my favorite Kansan is, in fact on the list of suspects. |
| 02:26 | * wizzyrea | looks innocent |
| 02:27 | wizzyrea | actually I really can't take credit for that |
| 02:27 | ^.^ though I"m ecstatic that you're getting out | |
| 02:28 | druthb | I did put on the dress I wore to KUDOS--the short one, from Monday. It's a swelterin' hot day here in Sodom-on-Potomac, so I decided it was time to show off some leg. |
| 02:28 | wizzyrea | :D that was a cute dress |
| 02:29 | druthb | I still wish there was photographic evidence from my presentation. |
| 02:29 | wizzyrea | I was too busy tweeting to take pictures :( |
| 02:29 | druthb | So I gathered, from the *swarm* when I got back to my seat. |
| 02:30 | (and you should see the skirt I wore to fly home with on wednesday... brown, tweedy, and marginally shorter than that dress. I was feeling my oats on that trip, for sure.) | |
| 02:30 | rangi | http://soundcloud.com/mustard-[…]dont-stop-mustard <-- still digging this |
| 02:30 | druthb: no photos at all? | |
| 02:30 | i saw some of the drinks | |
| 02:31 | druthb | there were a few taking of the drinks, but that's all I know of. |
| 02:31 | rangi | stink one |
| 02:31 | druthb | I wanted to get a pic of me and my new do, but other than the drinks pic, that's it. |
| 02:31 | rangi | bout 40 days |
| 02:31 | and ill be there in person | |
| 02:31 | druthb | yah, but I won't be at ala. :/ |
| 02:32 | rangi | awww man |
| 02:32 | druthb | yah, loox like LarryB and I will be sitting out. |
| 02:32 | rangi | (you ever seen dora the explorer?) |
| 02:32 | druthb | never watched it. |
| 02:32 | * wizzyrea | hads |
| 02:32 | wizzyrea | has* |
| 02:32 | rangi | that aww man was brought to you in the voice of swiper |
| 02:32 | wizzyrea | hee |
| 02:33 | rangi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]4&feature=related |
| 02:33 | druthb | @seen Brooke |
| 02:33 | huginn | druthb: Brooke was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 23 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Brooke> 0/ |
| 02:33 | druthb | lol...that's cute, rangi. |
| 02:34 | rangi | it was the first 10334141848485638256197508655735928659686 times |
| 02:34 | druthb | I figured for sure that Brooke would have come by to see what I told wahanui about her. I told her I'd been conspiring with the bot. |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | brooke? |
| 02:34 | wahanui | hmmm... brooke is sweet, even though she tells us she's not. |
| 02:34 | rangi | hehe |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | *giggle* |
| 02:34 | eythian | wahanui: imhotep |
| 02:34 | wahanui | i heard imhotep was invisible |
| 02:35 | druthb | wahanui: bg? |
| 02:35 | wahanui | druthb: i haven't a clue |
| 02:35 | druthb | Harrrumph! |
| 02:35 | bg is totally, completely, freakin' awesome! | |
| 02:36 | I also figured Brooke would come by to give me crapola for loggin in this late. | |
| 02:36 | rangi | hehe |
| 02:36 | eythian | wahanui: bg is also <reply>[1]+ infobot & |
| 02:36 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 02:37 | wizzyrea | bg? |
| 02:37 | wahanui | somebody said bg was totally, completely, freakin' awesome! or <reply>[1]+ infobot & |
| 02:37 | rangi | heh |
| 02:37 | eythian | oh, wahanui doesn't work right :( |
| 02:37 | wahanui: literal bg | |
| 02:37 | wahanui | eythian: bg =is= totally, completely, freakin' awesome! or <reply>[1]+ infobot & |
| 02:37 | eythian | no wahanui, bg is totally, completely, freakin' awesome! |<reply>[1]+ infobot & |
| 02:37 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 02:37 | rangi | eythian: i can give you a login and you can poke at him |
| 02:38 | eythian | wahanui: bg |
| 02:38 | wahanui | hmmm... bg is totally, completely, freakin' awesome! |
| 02:38 | eythian | wahanui: bg |
| 02:38 | wahanui | hmmm... bg is totally, completely, freakin' awesome! |
| 02:38 | eythian | wahanui: bg |
| 02:38 | wahanui | bg is, like, totally, completely, freakin' awesome! |
| 02:38 | eythian | wahanui: bg |
| 02:38 | wahanui | bg is, like, totally, completely, freakin' awesome! |
| 02:38 | eythian | wahanui: bg |
| 02:38 | wahanui | [1]+ infobot & |
| 02:38 | eythian | that's what I wanted |
| 02:38 | rangi | heh |
| 02:38 | its just a pile of perl | |
| 02:38 | we could make some more plugins for it | |
| 02:38 | * druthb | would like to teach it to not allow someone to tell it to forget stuff about themselves. one person, in particular... |
| 02:38 | eythian | give me a login then, I have some ideas :) |
| 02:39 | * wizzyrea | eyes eythian suspiciously |
| 02:39 | rangi | :) |
| 02:39 | ill install your user package | |
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| 02:39 | eythian | kk |
| 02:39 | druthb | brooke: "wahanui: forget brooke" wahanui: "But Brooke, you're unforgettable!" |
| 02:39 | * druthb | is only half evil.... |
| 02:40 | rangi | eythian: do you have a copy of it lying round, if you email it to me prolly the easiest |
| 02:41 | eythian | rangi: http://debian.catalyst.net.nz/[…]heat_0.29_all.deb |
| 02:41 | rangi | or that ;) |
| 02:41 | ta | |
| 02:44 | eythian | wow. outside is being very outside. |
| 02:44 | @wunder wellington, nz | |
| 02:44 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (2:00 PM NZST on May 13, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Falling). |
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| 02:44 | eythian | "scattered clouds" my butt. |
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| 02:44 | eythian | "torrential rain" more like |
| 02:44 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
| 02:44 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Potomac Woods, Rockville, Maryland is 18.2�C (10:47 PM EDT on May 12, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:45 | rangi | right eythian in you homedir should be a symlink to the dir |
| 02:45 | eythian | oarsome |
| 02:45 | rangi | if stopped it so you can have a play and start it etc |
| 02:46 | eythian | I forgot quite how terrible the code can be |
| 02:47 | rangi | hehe yeah its pretty old |
| 02:47 | eythian | seriously, I'm OK with regexes, but: s!\s+(?:=~)?\s?/(?:\((?:\?:)?([^)]*)\)|([^()]*))/i?\s*$!!; is going too far |
| 02:48 | rangi | :) |
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| 02:50 | rangi | heya pianohacker :) |
| 02:50 | pianohacker | hey chris |
| 02:50 | How's your day going? | |
| 02:51 | druthb | hi, pianohacker! :) |
| 02:51 | * pianohacker | is searching for an open-source cad program that isn't confusing, Japanese or both |
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| 02:52 | pianohacker | hey druthb |
| 02:52 | hibye wahanui | |
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| 02:53 | pianohacker | Hmm, LibreCAD allows you to scale your drawings in parsecs |
| 02:53 | ringworld, here I come | |
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| 02:53 | eythian | pianohacker: does it have the Kessel Run as an example? |
| 02:53 | pianohacker | Hahahaha |
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| 02:54 | pianohacker | If only. I think you can also use AUs and some bastard imperial thing called a "microinch" |
| 02:55 | eythian | that sounds like a terrible idea. Is that 1/1024 inches or something? |
| 02:56 | druthb | Almost as silly as the time measurement of "microfortnight." |
| 02:56 | eythian | My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it. |
| 03:00 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 03:05 | * druthb | waves and heads to bed, giving the evening up. |
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| 03:05 | pianohacker | I guess it is a bit late on the east coast |
| 03:05 | time_zones-- | |
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| 04:19 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 05:01 | cait | hm, noone awake? |
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| 05:36 | rangi | evening |
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| 06:14 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 06:22 | cait | hi francharb |
| 06:22 | francharb | morning cait |
| 06:23 | alex_a | bonjour #koha |
| 06:23 | hi cait | |
| 06:23 | cait | hi alex_a |
| 06:24 | alex_a | hi rangi |
| 06:24 | cait | europe waking up :) |
| 06:24 | ok, will be back a little later | |
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| 06:24 | indradg | morning #koha |
| 06:33 | rangi | hi alex_a and indradg |
| 06:33 | indradg | hi rangi :) |
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| 06:49 | * Oak | waves |
| 06:51 | rangi | hi Oak |
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| 06:52 | Oak | hiya rangi how are you today? still tired? |
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| 06:53 | rangi | Oak: not too bad |
| 06:53 | you? | |
| 06:53 | Oak | good, thanks :) |
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| 06:59 | indradg | rangi, do public libraries in NZ ask the patrons to deposit anything like a "security deposit" before they can borrow items? |
| 07:00 | matts_away is now known as matts | |
| 07:03 | rangi | not that im aware of |
| 07:04 | you have to provide proof of address | |
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| 07:12 | kf | good morning again #koha |
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| 07:16 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
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| 07:18 | magnuse | bonjour clrh_ |
| 07:19 | rangi | hi kf and magnuse |
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| 07:20 | magnuse | ata marie rangi |
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| 07:20 | magnuse | bonjour clrh |
| 07:21 | clrh | bonjour magnuse |
| 07:26 | kf | morning magnuse :) |
| 07:26 | hi rangi, hi claire | |
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| 07:40 | kf | rangi++ |
| 07:40 | this time for signing off :) | |
| 07:41 | rangi | 116 down from 140, maybe 100 by the end of the weekend |
| 07:41 | magnuse | yay |
| 07:42 | kf | hope to get some off the list on the weekend too |
| 07:44 | rangi | cool |
| 07:44 | kf | don't say cool until it's done |
| 07:44 | ;) | |
| 07:44 | rangi | :) |
| 07:44 | kf | and I have a lit of things from my bug wrangling session that I want to test |
| 07:45 | perhaps some of them can be closed | |
| 07:45 | rangi | ahh that would be nice |
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| 07:50 | rangi | lol fredericd just signed off 2 the same time as me ;) |
| 07:51 | * rangi | will let the night shift take over :) |
| 08:00 | kf | sleep well rangi |
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| 08:05 | kf | fredericd: around? |
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| 08:23 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4319] waiting items cannot be reserved <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4319> |
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| 08:51 | fredericd | kf: Thanks again for your watchfullness... |
| 08:51 | rangi | kf++ |
| 08:52 | fredericd++ #for working through patches | |
| 08:55 | fredericd | rangi: Clearly, with the Developer-A theory, Paul patch (which is great) would have entered directly into HEAD adding instability: 2 new defined fields with bad type and one (debarredcomment) not updated at all... |
| 08:56 | rangi | yes, the checking proved to work well in |
| 08:56 | paul_p | fredericd, yes. But they would have been fixed quickly. And master is not stable/published |
| 08:56 | rangi | lets not have this argument again |
| 08:56 | paul_p | (hello all) |
| 08:56 | fredericd | hello paul_p |
| 08:57 | rangi | there is a clear path forward, all patches biblibre think have been tested enough |
| 08:57 | they should mark the bug signed off | |
| 08:57 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p |
| 08:57 | rangi | and note on it it has been tested and by whom |
| 08:57 | and all get on with our lives | |
| 08:57 | magnuse | +1 |
| 08:58 | slef | hi all |
| 08:58 | magnuse | i just read through the discussion on the list, and that seems to be the way forward |
| 08:59 | kia ora slef | |
| 08:59 | slef | I've not read list mail in about a day (having some local problems, which some of you know about). Do I still need to put the boot in? ;-) |
| 08:59 | rangi | i dont think so, i think it came to a good compromise, of course i might be wrong |
| 08:59 | magnuse | sounds to me like an agreement has been reached |
| 09:02 | slef | ok, cool |
| 09:08 | rangi | 115 .. still going down |
| 09:08 | magnuse | yay |
| 09:10 | kf | yay :) |
| 09:10 | fredericd++ | |
| 09:10 | slef | patch temperature is still measured in F not C |
| 09:10 | kf | lol |
| 09:10 | slef | have you all seen the debian weather report? |
| 09:11 | rangi | nope |
| 09:11 | kf | nope :) |
| 09:11 | slef | I'll find it |
| 09:11 | once firefox stops being a hog | |
| 09:11 | well, iceweasel but anyway | |
| 09:11 | it's firefox when it misbehaves | |
| 09:12 | magnuse | http://edos.debian.net/weather/ ? |
| 09:12 | slef | that's it |
| 09:12 | just got there | |
| 09:13 | kf | cool :) |
| 09:13 | slef | might be fun to put a koha weather report on the website, based on some stats from bugs, git, list and wiki |
| 09:14 | rangi | thats like jenkins |
| 09:14 | slef | but I'm not going to do that soon |
| 09:14 | rangi | we could do jenkins plus other stuff |
| 09:14 | slef | actually, yeah, jenkins probably gives much of the info |
| 09:14 | rangi | http://jenkins.koha-community.org/ |
| 09:14 | i need to set up builds for 3.4.x | |
| 09:14 | i should do that now | |
| 09:14 | while i remember | |
| 09:15 | slef | but the patch statuses/numbers from bugs are probably a nice measure of storminess |
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| 09:15 | druthb | o/ |
| 09:15 | magnuse | \o |
| 09:16 | slef | I think Jenkins's build weather is pretty simplistic, isn't it? |
| 09:16 | druthb | @ssen Brooke |
| 09:16 | huginn | druthb: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 09:16 | druthb | whaaaatt..? |
| 09:16 | slef | also, can you link just the weather image? |
| 09:16 | @seen Brooke | |
| 09:16 | huginn | slef: Brooke was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 7 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Brooke> 0/ |
| 09:16 | magnuse | slef: it's related to passing tests, i think? |
| 09:17 | druthb | helps if I could spell. thanks, slef. |
| 09:17 | slef | elarn ot ytpe? |
| 09:17 | * druthb | is losing her marbles, but hasn't noticed yet. |
| 09:17 | rangi | slef: i think so |
| 09:17 | slef | magnuse: I forget. |
| 09:18 | rangi | !jenkins status |
| 09:18 | jenkins_koha | status of all projects: |
| 09:18 | Koha_3.2.x: last build: 23 (8 j 10 h ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/23/ | |
| 09:18 | Koha_3.4.x: no finished build yet | |
| 09:18 | Koha_master: last build: 246 (1 j 7 h ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/246/ | |
| 09:18 | slef | argh jenkins uses the bloody useless confluence |
| 09:19 | rangi | !jenkins build Koha_3.4.x |
| 09:19 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job Koha_3.4.x build scheduled with a quiet period of 5 seconds |
| 09:22 | slef | I can find how to get jenkins_koha connected to traffic lights and all sorts of other hardware, but not a simple img tag. |
| 09:23 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 1 for job Koha_3.4.x |
| 09:23 | slef | confluence, where wiki docs go to die |
| 09:25 | this is very irritating. It should not be hard to find this. | |
| 09:29 | rofl | |
| 09:29 | the firefox plugin contains its own copies of the weather images | |
| 09:29 | * slef | facepalms |
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| 10:02 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.4.x build #1: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.4.x/1/ |
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| 10:03 | rangi | yay |
| 10:04 | magnuse | woohoo |
| 10:05 | mib_wkjk7f | hi there |
| 10:05 | wahanui | hey, mib_wkjk7f |
| 10:06 | mib_wkjk7f | i really need to register on the IRC because I've already come here several times :) |
| 10:07 | i need some help... it's possible to block renewals in the Staff Client to books that are overdue? | |
| 10:09 | i know that is possible in the OPAC with OPACFineNoRenewals, but i can't block in the Staff Client | |
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| 10:11 | mib_3jr58x | my firefox crashed :/ |
| 10:12 | anyone can help me with the renewal problema? | |
| 10:12 | rangi | cant you just tell the librarians not to do it? |
| 10:13 | kf | mib_3jr58x: I fear you can't do that |
| 10:13 | rangi: it might be a problem if you use self checkouts - so a switch might be something people want | |
| 10:14 | mib_3jr58x | that's a problem because some librarian can "help" some patrons... |
| 10:14 | kf | but I agree, without self checkouts tell the librarians :) |
| 10:14 | or use jquery tricks | |
| 10:14 | perhaps you could construct somthing with jquery, so that an item marked overdue offers no option for renewal | |
| 10:14 | mib_3jr58x | i'll try it... |
| 10:15 | thanks guys :) | |
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| 11:50 | conan | hello everybody |
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| 12:06 | oleonard | fredericd around? |
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| 12:21 | fredericd | oleonard: yes |
| 12:21 | oleonard | Thanks for testing bug 6291 |
| 12:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6291 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Cart printing truncated in Firefox |
| 12:21 | oleonard | Did you test in the OPAC or staff client? |
| 12:22 | fredericd | OPAC |
| 12:22 | oleonard | Hmm.... I was hoping you would say staff client, because my patch didn't include a fix for that :| |
| 12:23 | fredericd | What version of FF do you use? |
| 12:24 | oleonard | I've tested it on 3.6.17 on Windows |
| 12:24 | fredericd | I've tested with FF 3.5 Linux |
| 12:24 | oleonard | I wonder if the older version of the stylesheet might have gotten cached? |
| 12:25 | * oleonard | is testing now in Ubuntu |
| 12:25 | fredericd | Not cached by the web browser, i've cleared it, but there may be some Apache caching... |
| 12:26 | oleonard | Hm, Ubuntu upgraded Firefox to 4 for me, so no luck there |
| 12:29 | fredericd | and no Apache caching. When accessing directly print.css, I can see your modifications |
| 12:29 | and the bug is still here with FF 3.5.16 Linux | |
| 12:30 | oleonard | Okay, so no easy fix for me. Thanks for checking. |
| 12:32 | fredericd | Standard Linux box (Ubuntu) are all upgrading automatically FF to 4.0. So this bug will vanished... Your patch must solve it for FF Windows, but I can't confirm it |
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| 12:49 | kf | marcelr++ |
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| 12:57 | hdl | fredericd: there are some problems with FF4 that has to be assigned as far as i know |
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| 13:06 | sekjal | thanks everyone for getting things signed off and ready for QA... I've got myself quite the backlog to work through |
| 13:06 | I'm at a conference today, but I'll get started on pushing these through as soon as I can | |
| 13:09 | oleonard | A fun conference sekjal ? |
| 13:10 | sekjal | ACRL New England's Annual conference, in beautiful Worcester, MA |
| 13:10 | I'm presenting with one of our partner libraries | |
| 13:14 | can anyone here speak to exactly what the problem is in bug 5995? How do I test to confirm that it's fixed? | |
| 13:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth |
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| 13:17 | oleonard | Sounds like the same problem rangi had sekjal |
| 13:18 | sekjal | my understanding is that ANY user could login to the staff client with their cardnumber, and a) get in and b) get superlibrarian privileges |
| 13:19 | but I'd like to confirm that's the problem before I test against it | |
| 13:19 | (oh, right, and I need a CAS server) | |
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| 13:37 | hdl | sekjal: I think it was the same problem. |
| 13:38 | sekjal | hdl: so currently anyone can log into a Koha staff client as a superlibrarian if a) it authenticates against CAS and b) they use their cardnumber? |
| 13:42 | wizzyrea | oof |
| 13:42 | * wizzyrea | just sees a frustrated koha user on facebook |
| 13:43 | oleonard | Koha enthusiasts away! |
| 13:43 | * oleonard | jumps in the Kohamobile |
| 13:47 | sekjal | I was thinking of buying a bus from the UMass vehicle surplus auction, and painting it with the Koha logo |
| 13:47 | then touring the country | |
| 13:48 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 13:48 | * wizzyrea | would get on that bus |
| 13:49 | sekjal | I'd have to rip out the seats and put in couches and an (open) bar |
| 13:49 | lots of big screen TVs with the code streams | |
| 13:49 | 3G/4G internet.... | |
| 13:49 | wizzyrea | *nod* because the very first time a new linux user tries to install Koha, they often need booze. |
| 13:49 | * druthb | would caravan with you, sekjal, and provide the home-cooked chow. |
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| 13:50 | oleonard | Couches? I thought it was going to be all workstations |
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| 13:50 | sekjal | oh, man, now I'm getting all excited |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 13:50 | oleonard | Manacles attached to the chair legs... |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | |
| 13:50 | i'm suspecting that owen is bringing the whips | |
| 13:51 | hdl | sekjal: how to say... yes. |
| 13:51 | wizzyrea | hi hdl :) |
| 13:55 | magnuse | have fun, #koha! |
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| 13:58 | hdl | hi wizzyrea. |
| 13:58 | wizzyrea | how is today treating you? |
| 13:58 | hdl | This is quite an unseen "feture... |
| 13:58 | This is quite an unseen "feature"... | |
| 13:58 | and even unwanted. | |
| 13:59 | This is the problem with all the code dealing with authentication. | |
| 13:59 | It is so overcomplicated because it tries to do many things at once. | |
| 14:00 | a) authentication and b) identication | |
| 14:00 | wizzyrea | ^ is a problem in many applications that require a login |
| 14:01 | hdl | Using Plack::Middleware::Authen::Basic would allow us more flexibility and we would contribute to a wider project. |
| 14:01 | sekjal | hdl: so, is my description of the problem for bug 5995 correct? |
| 14:01 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth |
| 14:01 | hdl | Then the identication would be coped in some Modules. |
| 14:05 | sekjal: i think that it was for all the users in database, not only with CAS users. | |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea: may is quite nice... Weather is good. | |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea: what about you ? | |
| 14:07 | wizzyrea | today is shaping up to be lovely so far: fig scones for breakfast, positive news, it's not 33C today (only 13C, actually, quite a change from Monday/Tuesday) |
| 14:08 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 14:08 | huginn` | oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 21.7�C (10:10 AM EDT on May 13, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003.3 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:08 | sekjal | hdl: wait, so this is a universal problem, not a CAS-only problem? |
| 14:10 | hdl | sekjal: ermmmm ->[] |
| 14:10 | yes. | |
| 14:10 | ->[] ->[] | |
| 14:12 | sekjal: that would require a test case. | |
| 14:12 | I agree. | |
| 14:13 | sekjal | okay, I just logged into my test server with a completely non-privileged user (patron), and was able to edit system preferences |
| 14:13 | !!!!! | |
| 14:13 | wizzyrea | :O |
| 14:14 | oleonard | Really sekjal? I tested that myself and couldn't do that |
| 14:14 | * oleonard | will try again |
| 14:14 | sekjal | with username/password => fail |
| 14:14 | with cardnumber/password => WAY too much access | |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | ooof |
| 14:15 | * wizzyrea | tries too |
| 14:16 | * oleonard | confirms |
| 14:16 | oleonard | But if your username is your cardnumber you can't log in (which is why I couldn't reproduce it) |
| 14:17 | wizzyrea | :O |
| 14:17 | * wizzyrea | confirms as well |
| 14:17 | oleonard | We seem to be having some egg on our faces regarding authentication lately. |
| 14:18 | sekjal | patch for 5995 fixes it |
| 14:18 | oleonard | ...after that default password thing a couple weeks ago. |
| 14:19 | hdl | sekjal: thanks. |
| 14:19 | oleonard | So it's *not* the case only if the library has a CAS server |
| 14:20 | hdl | No. |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 14:21 | i applied the patch | |
| 14:22 | it still lets me in | |
| 14:22 | with greatly reduced privileges | |
| 14:22 | let me double check his perms | |
| 14:22 | but this is what it looks like | |
| 14:22 | http://screencast.com/t/VjRml23QS1wA | |
| 14:23 | ok yea, that's right | |
| 14:23 | * wizzyrea | fixes the perms on that user and tries again |
| 14:23 | hdl | mmm you have perms |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 14:24 | trying again | |
| 14:24 | win! http://screencast.com/t/BE6wHyqKcni | |
| 14:25 | oleonard | One of our YUI dependencies has gone missing. http://yui.yahooapis.com/2.5.1[…]datasource-min.js |
| 14:26 | No idea what we use that for. | |
| 14:27 | Docs say it's used for AutoComplete, but autocomplete is still working for me. | |
| 14:28 | * oleonard | wonders if datasource-min.js disappeared because of this? http://yuilibrary.com/support/2.8.2/ |
| 14:29 | oleonard | ...but that says "YUI 2 Flash component infrastructure" |
| 14:29 | Flash-- | |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | does anybody have a good test db they'd be willing to send me? |
| 14:31 | hdl | wizzyrea: on our git : data.git could be a good test db... |
| 14:31 | wizzyrea | ooh! |
| 14:31 | hdl++ | |
| 14:32 | hdl | But it is not with many many data |
| 14:32 | wizzyrea | nah, what I have now has many many data |
| 14:32 | and I want to downsize :) | |
| 14:33 | sekjal | updating the bug report with detailed problem description and testing results |
| 14:33 | hdl | might be unimarc. can't remember. |
| 14:33 | wizzyrea | ooo, hdl! we ought to give your public data repo the attention it deserves. |
| 14:34 | hdl | patches welcome on dev_patches at biblibre dot com |
| 14:34 | slef | oops I forgot that upgrading that server would boot me out :) |
| 14:34 | hi again everyone! | |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | very cool. I'm sort of remembering we had a wiki page for public data repos |
| 14:35 | or we talked about it? | |
| 14:35 | anyway, if we don't, I'll create one | |
| 14:35 | slef | I think we do and I know where my link is :) |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | you must share! |
| 14:35 | slef | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Git_Repositories |
| 14:35 | hdl | wizzyrea: there is one |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | hm, I was thinking of one specifically for test data |
| 14:36 | slef | they should be linked from that page |
| 14:36 | hdl | you could add on that page. |
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| 14:36 | slef | you pudate one, I'll do that? |
| 14:36 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_sample_MARC_data | |
| 14:37 | maybe that's the other one? | |
| 14:37 | wizzyrea | I was thinking of a library of places you could get test data with patrons + bibs |
| 14:37 | what would be REALLY cool | |
| 14:37 | slef | these all need "See Also"s |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | would be test datasets with certain library configs |
| 14:38 | or preference sets that could be imported | |
| 14:38 | independent branches | |
| 14:38 | or no | |
| 14:38 | slef | there's some sample data in the release (or used to be) |
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| 14:38 | wizzyrea | are there bibs in there? |
| 14:39 | my brain ran away from me for a minute, thinking about preference sets | |
| 14:39 | slef | argh I always click the bloody gitstats link |
| 14:39 | * oleonard | too |
| 14:39 | * wizzyrea | too! |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | I thought it was just me. :P |
| 14:40 | hdl | slef: metoo |
| 14:40 | slef | roflmao |
| 14:40 | * wizzyrea | does not click it *this time* |
| 14:40 | slef | hrm, there's sample_patrons |
| 14:40 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92ecf37be;hb=HEAD | |
| 14:41 | not bibs | |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | *nod* i've used the test patrons |
| 14:41 | slef | I'm only using gitweb because I've a browser opened and not our koha servers just now |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | use the tools you've got, I always say |
| 14:42 | ;) | |
| 14:42 | oleonard | sekjal++ # For diligent QA |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ |
| 14:43 | sekjal | hdl++ # for helping me understand the terrifying nature of the problem |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | hdl++ |
| 14:43 | hdl | sekjal: i often lurk here. |
| 14:44 | slef | anyway I've linked from the git repo page to the free sample MARC data page - maybe someone could add hdl's link (which I can't see right now... limited scrollback) from one or the other |
| 14:44 | hdl | and am quite open to discussion |
| 14:44 | slef | s/from one/to one |
| 14:44 | reason I came in: I've finally got write access to the SIP 3.0 development discussions! | |
| 14:44 | so any comments about SIP 3.0, let me have them and I'll feed them back | |
| 14:45 | hdl | git://git.biblibre.com/data.git |
| 14:45 | slef | I'll also try to ask you about what happens there. Didn't seem much point until now, because it was difficult for me to feed back |
| 14:47 | hdl | slef: for openncip ? |
| 14:47 | Or which ? | |
| 14:47 | wahanui | i heard which was why we needed the audio prompts or fortunate |
| 14:48 | oleonard | wahanui: That doesn't even make sense. |
| 14:48 | wahanui | oleonard: what? |
| 14:48 | oleonard | wahanui: You're stuck with it! |
| 14:48 | wahanui | oleonard: what? |
| 14:48 | rhcl_away | we're stuck with wahanui? |
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| 14:49 | slef | hdl: for SIP 3.0 protocol |
| 14:49 | SIP 3.0 is to openncip what html5 is to mozilla | |
| 14:49 | hdl | in a NISO stuff ? |
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| 14:49 | slef | no, a 3M stuff |
| 14:49 | hdl | nice. |
| 14:49 | slef | NCIP is NISO, SIP is 3M |
| 14:50 | yeah, not as good as having it somewhere like OKFN but we are where we are | |
| 14:52 | hdl: can you put patches_dev or some link in http://git.biblibre.com/?p=data;a=summary or shall I put it in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Git_Repositories ? | |
| 14:52 | dev_patches at biblibre dot com even | |
| 14:53 | hdl | In SIP2 problem with the dates and the authentications... and the way the information is stored. and the way that information is displayed whose responsability it is. Have some ERRIDs |
| 14:53 | slef: I will | |
| 14:54 | slef | hdl: tah |
| 14:54 | hdl: dates are being YYYYMMDD consistentised in 3.0 I think | |
| 14:54 | hdl: and they | |
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| 14:55 | slef | hdl: and they're trying to make error codes consistent, but I can see the one for miscellaneous error being used a lot :-/ |
| 14:56 | hdl | slef: :( |
| 14:56 | kf | ERRIDs sounds good |
| 14:56 | hdl | and what about character sets ? |
| 14:56 | kf | I think it's a problem what message will be shown on the self checkout |
| 14:56 | our vendor did something to make the messages from koha show nice and make sense | |
| 14:57 | but a standardized set of messages would perhaps be cool? | |
| 14:57 | and i may be totally wrong here :) | |
| 14:57 | slef | charset is UTF-8 most of the time |
| 14:58 | kf: standardised messages are in the spec, yes | |
| 14:58 | trouble is, things have a bad habit of failing in new and unpredicted ways | |
| 14:59 | kf | was thinking about things like "too many checkouts" or "account blocked" |
| 15:00 | slef | kf: I'll be working on it again on Monday. I'll look for them then. |
| 15:00 | rhcl | When my tech and I were looking at adding SIP to Libki recently we ran across this code and felt it helped us understand self-checkout greatly. |
| 15:00 | https://github.com/bricestacey[…]ter/sipapi.module | |
| 15:00 | slef | account blocked is when they scan their card, right? |
| 15:01 | and too many checkouts on checkout and renew | |
| 15:02 | anyway, mail me any things and I'll check and pass them on if needed, now that I can | |
| 15:02 | kf | when the borrower is banned/debarred whatever |
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| 15:03 | slef | yeah, but Koha should send that when the borrower tries to scan their card into the SIP terminal? |
| 15:03 | kf | I have a collection of tests I normally do with the vendor, but all in German |
| 15:03 | ah yes | |
| 15:03 | slef | keine Probleme |
| 15:03 | kf | the authenticate with or without pin and then it should say that |
| 15:03 | slef | if you can share them somehow |
| 15:04 | or if you have a few which are more frequently failed, that would be more informative | |
| 15:04 | brb | |
| 15:05 | kf | most of the failing things are koha problems |
| 15:05 | we had problems with not useful error messages but koha, returned books with holds placed on them and I think something died when you scanned in an unknown barcode | |
| 15:06 | slef: email? | |
| 15:06 | wahanui | email is probably sent to the Koha administrator |
| 15:06 | kf | wahanui: forget email |
| 15:06 | wahanui | kf: I forgot email |
| 15:10 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6337] Variable scope errors in staff client cart print view <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6337> |
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| 15:17 | rhcl | @seen gmcharlt |
| 15:17 | huginn` | rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 17 hours, 11 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> ibeardslee: why not? I hear cats like to have meaty treats after they swallow a pill ;) |
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| 15:20 | gmcharlt | rhcl: poing |
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| 15:28 | oleonard | gmcharlt: He didn't want to talk, he just wanted to know. |
| 15:30 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 15:30 | we pm'ed | |
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| 15:37 | mib_mvdr0t | hi there koha community |
| 15:38 | sekjal | howedy, mib_mvdr0t |
| 15:38 | mib_mvdr0t | i've one big problem... during marc import koha changed the ISBN of my records |
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| 15:39 | mib_mvdr0t | 0-262-53063-5 => 0262530635 (Koha) |
| 15:39 | it's this normal? | |
| 15:39 | oleonard | Yes |
| 15:39 | The hyphens are just for display | |
| 15:40 | mib_mvdr0t | but when displaying the hyphens doesn't appear |
| 15:41 | and that's a problem for the library i'm working with | |
| 15:41 | wizzyrea | can I ask what their reasoning is for it being a problem? |
| 15:41 | * oleonard | notes that Amazon.com doesn't display ISBNs with hyphens |
| 15:42 | mib_mvdr0t | I know... google books too. |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | (I suspect it's a case of "they've always looked that way and we're afraid of change") |
| 15:42 | oleonard | And WorldCat |
| 15:42 | mib_mvdr0t | but they insist in present the hyphens |
| 15:43 | oleonard | I hope this is because everything else about Koha is so perfect they're looking for things to gripe about ;) |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | people get so mad at me when I do this, but you get much better solutions: ask them *why* it's really important |
| 15:43 | oleonard | But seriously mib_mvdr0t, the isbns display that way because no one has ever asked that they display any other way |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | and you can steal a line from druthb's book: if it's about fearing change, ask them if they stop getting older. Because we all change every day and think nothing of it. |
| 15:45 | and what oleonard said: no one has ever wanted it to display with the hyphens, so it doesn't. | |
| 15:46 | mib_mvdr0t | i know that the isbn normally appears whitout hyphens... |
| 15:47 | i think that they are really afraid of change | |
| 15:47 | :) | |
| 15:47 | the isbn has a norm to present the hyphens | |
| 15:48 | ? | |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | what ILS are they coming from? |
| 15:48 | (I'm assuming it's a migration) | |
| 15:48 | mib_mvdr0t | yes it's a migration |
| 15:49 | bibliobase... | |
| 15:49 | slef | back |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | hi slef :) |
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| 15:51 | mib_mvdr0t | i will talk to them... |
| 15:51 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6332] missing 'clear date' link <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6332> / [Bug 6338] Datepickers on OPAC hold form does not work <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6338> |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | ah, portuguese? |
| 15:51 | mib_mvdr0t | yes portuguese :) |
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| 15:51 | wizzyrea | mib_mvdr0t: I'm trying to think what the unknown is that they are afraid of, but it may just be that they are expecting to see them a certain way |
| 15:52 | and it's just *weird* to them | |
| 15:52 | but weird is normal after a while :) | |
| 15:52 | what you could do | |
| 15:52 | Ropuch | Eevening #koha |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | would be to tell them that what they want could be done, but it would require de |
| 15:52 | dev | |
| 15:52 | and likely | |
| 15:52 | by the time the dev is done, they won't care about it anymore | |
| 15:53 | or if you delay the spec long enough, the wierdness that caused the desire will be normal | |
| 15:54 | and to pay for something that's now normal will seem silly | |
| 15:54 | (I have had this exact experience, where something that was weird to our librarians and they initially wanted fixed, after using the system for a while it didn't bother them anymore and we dropped the need for dev to "fix" it) | |
| 15:56 | (I also have the experience of something that was "completely necessary" being added that ended up being detrimental) | |
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| 15:58 | slef | bbl |
| 15:59 | mib_mvdr0t | they already paid :P |
| 15:59 | for the product | |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | you mean for your help configuring the product, nobody pays for koha ;) |
| 16:00 | mib_mvdr0t | for configuring, for design, for integration with their modules |
| 16:00 | and so on.... http://catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt | |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | pretty! |
| 16:01 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6300] can't get to other pages of marc import <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6300> |
| 16:01 | oleonard | Yes, very nice |
| 16:01 | mib_mvdr0t | the backoffice has design work too |
| 16:01 | but you can't saw it :P | |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | oh it's academia |
| 16:02 | oleonard | mib_mvdr0t: CSS-based design work or template changes? |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | this explains even more the resistance to change |
| 16:02 | mib_mvdr0t | css and some tmplates changes (2 or 3) |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | what version of koha? just curious |
| 16:03 | mib_mvdr0t | 3.2.6 |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | nice :0 |
| 16:03 | :) | |
| 16:03 | mib_mvdr0t | i like very much of the backoffice design |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | screencap it? |
| 16:04 | oleonard | mib_mvdr0t: I'd love to see your CSS changes in the staff client if they can be shared. |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | i have a wicked curiosity :) |
| 16:04 | never know mib_mvdr0t, you might inspire us ;) | |
| 16:05 | mib_mvdr0t | next time... i have to leave... but if you see someone with strange name it's me |
| 16:06 | my name it's vitor fernandes... sometimes i'm here for some questions | |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | you can always set your nickname with /nick <new nickname> |
| 16:06 | :) | |
| 16:06 | then we'll know you | |
| 16:07 | mib_mvdr0t | next time i'll directly talk to you and share it you you |
| 16:07 | well i have to go | |
| 16:07 | nengard | does huginn say when a patch has been signed off? |
| 16:07 | mib_mvdr0t | thanks for the help |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | of course, anytime :) |
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| 16:08 | oleonard | I don't think so nengard |
| 16:08 | nengard | k |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 16:08 | nengard | just curious |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | I have found our new web connection client |
| 16:08 | oleonard | ? |
| 16:08 | * wizzyrea | goes to exterminate mibbit from the website |
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| 16:09 | wizzyrea | http://en.irc2go.com/webchat/?net=OFTC |
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| 16:10 | wizzyrea | http://en.irc2go.com/webchat/?net=OFTC&room=koha |
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| 16:10 | wizzyrea | is better |
| 16:10 | owen | Courierlicious. |
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| 16:11 | wizzyrea | pm's are nicer too |
| 16:11 | than mibbit | |
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| 16:12 | sekjal | okay, gtg change rooms for the conference... afk for a while |
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| 16:16 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ for meaningful QA |
| 16:19 | oleonard | nengard: Bug 6166 is referring to records with an 856 tag right? |
| 16:19 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6166 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , missing links on lists & search results |
| 16:19 | nengard | right |
| 16:20 | oleonard | I'm finding that the online access link does display on search results with xslt on |
| 16:21 | ...and I'm seeing the link in the lists view too | |
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| 16:27 | conan | @later tcohen I'm gonna need your local patch for suspensions, plz write me |
| 16:27 | huginn` | conan: I suck |
| 16:28 | conan | would that work? |
| 16:28 | nengard | oleonard, hang on |
| 16:28 | oleonard | conan: "@later tell <username>" |
| 16:28 | nengard | they are there now, you are right |
| 16:28 | conan | oleonard: thnx |
| 16:29 | @later tell tcohen I'm gonna need your local patch for suspensions, plz write me | |
| 16:29 | huginn` | conan: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:30 | wizzyrea | alright, references to mibbit eliminated |
| 16:30 | caches will still need to update | |
| 16:32 | oleonard | +1 for 3.4.1 security release |
| 16:32 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5995 : MT2892: Fix security issue in CAS intranet login <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9d4f3db929285fead> |
| 16:32 | wizzyrea | +1 for 3.4.1 security release |
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| 16:40 | conan | wizzyrea: I'm not reading mails, we got a 3.4.1 already? |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea | if we don't, we will |
| 16:40 | big bug that needs fast fix | |
| 16:41 | rangi | 3.2.8 too |
| 16:41 | * rangi | has totally messed up sleep patterns it appears 4am is the new 7am for me |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | bug 5995 |
| 16:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth |
| 16:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 247 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | i'm really glad that paul escalated that one, it's a BFD |
| 16:44 | looks like only 4 days to inclusion though, once it's severity was identified | |
| 16:47 | rangi | sorry my bad |
| 16:47 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 16:48 | rangi | when i made the bug for that, i couldnt figure out from the commit message that it was as bad as it was, and like owen when i tested i couldnt reproduce |
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| 16:48 | rangi | i would have marked it blocker |
| 16:48 | otherwise | |
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| 16:48 | wizzyrea | eh, it's in now |
| 16:49 | rangi | paul_p++ # for escalating severity |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | mhm paul_p++ |
| 16:50 | * wizzyrea | pulls it, because she can |
| 16:50 | rangi | escalated on the 10th, checked on the 11th, signed off on the 13th, passed qa on 14th, pushed on the 14th (nz time) |
| 16:52 | nengard | rangi, you didn't push the avatars dev to master yet right? just asking cause I'm trying to find what i missed in the manual :) |
| 16:53 | rangi | its still in signed off status nengard |
| 16:53 | nengard | got it |
| 16:53 | rangi | will push it after sekjal has looked |
| 16:53 | here ya go | |
| 16:53 | nengard | i was remembering your facebook post and thought it was pushed, so i was confused |
| 16:53 | rangi | http://koha-releasemanagement.[…]s/Work_for_3.6.x/ |
| 16:53 | (that was a link from bugzilla) | |
| 16:53 | the screenshot link | |
| 16:53 | nengard | rangi you have so many cool links :) |
| 16:54 | rangi | that page will tell you exactly what i have pushed |
| 16:54 | i keep it up to date, newest at the top | |
| 16:54 | each time i push | |
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| 16:55 | rangi | if i ever have to revert or remove one, ill strike it out |
| 16:55 | that help? | |
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| 16:59 | nengard | yes, very helpful |
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| 17:02 | * druthb | thinks a whole bunch of wizzies in the room would be *wonderful*! |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | :( |
| 17:02 | er | |
| 17:02 | :) | |
| 17:03 | oleonard is now known as oleonard-away | |
| 17:04 | rangi | 101 !!! |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 17:06 | Oak | i read something funny |
| 17:06 | kind of | |
| 17:06 | Frisbeetarian: A person who adheres to the belief that when you die your spirit floats up and gets stuck on the roof. | |
| 17:06 | :D | |
| 17:07 | * druthb | giggles. |
| 17:07 | high-fives Oak. | |
| 17:08 | * Oak | high-fives druthb :) |
| 17:10 | * druthb | cranks the angry-sounding music up Nice. And. LOUD. |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | oleonard-away: re 6337, how was it formatted wrong before? |
| 17:11 | bug 6337 | |
| 17:11 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6337 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Variable scope errors in staff client cart print view |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | hm, also on that screen the itemtype isn't showing |
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| 17:14 | wizzyrea | hi cait :) |
| 17:15 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
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| 17:18 | wizzyrea | bbl |
| 17:25 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #247: SUCCESS in 42 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/247/ |
| 17:25 | Matthias Meusburger: Bug 5995 : MT2892: Fix security issue in CAS intranet login | |
| 17:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5995 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED , Glitch with checkauth |
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| 18:08 | oleonard | wizzyrea: The checkbox column was not getting hidden in the print view, and it ended up taking up a disproportionate amount of space |
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| 18:20 | cait | fredericd: around? |
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| 18:34 | rhcl2go | this winder is about 300 x 250 pixels, how to make big? |
| 18:36 | rhcl | I don't like irc2go--can't resize the tiny little window & html appears broken. |
| 18:37 | Bring back Mibbit! | |
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| 18:49 | * druthb | is wondering if there's some amazing news going on somewhere--Twitter has been over-cap for about the last twenty minutes. |
| 18:51 | SteveJ | I wonder if it is important enough to allow me to leave work early:) |
| 18:54 | rhcl | Did Twitter go down due to news of Osama Bin Laden's porn stash? - Geek.com - Jennifer Bergen - 35 minutes ago |
| 18:55 | http://www.geek.com/articles/n[…]n-stash-20110513/ | |
| 18:55 | Yep, that's definitely a go-home-work-early reason. | |
| 18:58 | SteveJ | Lemme go run that by the VP... |
| 19:02 | rhcl | Lemme know how it goes. If you get a return code of 1 I'll give it a shot. |
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| 19:09 | * druthb | would return home from work on the news, but...erm...she's already at home. |
| 19:13 | * indradg | is wondering if jquery can be used to add javascript to a page |
| 19:14 | indradg | druthb, haven't been on twitter all day, but the longest running, democratically elected communist government in the world collapsed today... in my home state in India |
| 19:14 | after 34 years | |
| 19:15 | so wont be surprised | |
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| 19:23 | rhcl | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=[…]Bengal,+India&z=7 |
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| 19:32 | wizzyrea | rhcl: no |
| 19:32 | you know where mibbit is if you want to use it | |
| 19:33 | rhcl | do you get that tiny little window? It's unusable. |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | it works fine for me |
| 19:33 | rhcl | Well, it doesn't work on OpenSuse and FF |
| 19:34 | It's probably customized for windows and Mac | |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | no, shouldn't be |
| 19:34 | it's java | |
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| 19:35 | rhcl | All I get is a little window about 350 X 300 pixels--all the chat functions work fine, but you can't resize it and all the text off the screen to the right is not viewable. |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | that's not right, but it works fine in every browser I've tested it on so far |
| 19:36 | except yours | |
| 19:36 | rhcl | oh, it's no big deal--I'm used to dealing with apps that don't work on Liinux, and I do have mibbit bookmarked. |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | update your FF? |
| 19:37 | rhcl | Firefox 4.0.1 |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | dunno then |
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| 19:38 | rhcl | I'm firing up my Ubuntu netbook and will fn check on that. |
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| 19:48 | rhcl_mibbit | irc2go won't even connect to the channel on Ubunut |
| 19:48 | Ubuntu | |
| 19:48 | tried about 5x, loads the app but never connects | |
| 19:50 | Connecting... Unable to connect : java.net.ConnectException : Connection timed out Not on a channel | |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | did you specify one? |
| 19:51 | rhcl | it's a direct link off the koha-community web site, and the chat room is pre-filled; I left it "koha" |
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| 20:01 | rhcl | Given my error message above... |
| 20:01 | Java.net Community Manager. The Community Manager Community Manager is appointed by Oracle and is responsible for executing the will of the Java.net Community. | |
| 20:01 | http://home.java.net/javanet-governance | |
| 20:02 | If java.net is oracle, I can see why it irc2go wouldn't work for me on Linux | |
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| 20:40 | skushner | Has anyone installed debian on a sparc machine here? pls |
| 20:41 | thanks | |
| 20:42 | rhcl | not using a VM? |
| 20:43 | skushner | Can't...tried. It appears my servers too old. 280r. looked into Containers, LDOMS, etc..to no avail |
| 20:44 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:44 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.1�C (10:45 PM CEST on May 13, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Steady). |
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| 20:44 | skushner | Brandz...tin cans..nothing. |
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| 20:45 | skushner | Going to try a direct install of debian |
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| 20:45 | slef | ooh I just read a summary of the 3.6 RM thread |
| 20:45 | even the summary made me cross | |
| 20:46 | rhcl | I would guess it should work. I have a Fire V240 (Sparc) that I'm thinking of loading deb on to make a backup koha server for us. |
| 20:46 | slef | where was the agreement? |
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| 20:46 | slef | skushner: not for over a decade :) |
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| 20:46 | cait | I think the agreement was about adding internal sign-offs to the patches |
| 20:46 | note in the patch who tested | |
| 20:48 | skushner | mmm..i'll give it a shot. i'm done with the virtual **** |
| 20:49 | rhcl | yea, I did a bit of research when you were asking about it earlier and everything I read said VM on Sparc was essentially impossible. |
| 20:49 | coryj | Is If I change yuipath for under Staff Client prefs, shouldn't it change for OPAC users too? |
| 20:50 | skushner | um..yeah..that's why i tried to use older stuff, like ldoms, etc., but can't find for download anymore.. |
| 20:52 | rhcl | One think we've noticed (vaguely related perhaps) is that we have an Opteron x4150 w/ Solaris, and it occasionally loses the NFS mounts to a Seagate BlackArmor NAS (which runs Linux). |
| 20:53 | We had thought about trying to use that for our Koha backup, but now I'm leaning to just taking our v240 and putting deb on the bare metal | |
| 20:55 | skushner | same here.. |
| 20:57 | rhcl | Kinda depressing, we paid a fortune for that v240 when is was our new Sirsi Unicorn server, and now they cost $100 - $300 on eBay. Still very capable machines though if in good condition and decked out a little bit. |
| 21:01 | skushner | Yeah, we paid too much too through Dynix, should've gotten the x86 would be easier..hindsight's 20/20 though |
| 21:01 | rhcl | exactly |
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| 21:02 | skushner | Would like to use it for more than a boat anchor, however... |
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| 21:05 | talljoy | Hi all. I'm still having install issues. I had to reinstall Debian due to some partitioning issues (don't ask :) ) I've gotten to the point in the install where I am finding about 70 package that are not installed and Debian can't seem to find them. |
| 21:06 | I've added debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main and squeeze-dev to the sources.list | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | can you do a sudo apt-get update? |
| 21:07 | rangi | what version of debian did you install talljoy? |
| 21:08 | talljoy | the latest version of debian. 6 |
| 21:08 | I've done the update | |
| 21:08 | rangi | you dont want to add both of those, just one of them, for your purposes squeeze-dev is fine |
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| 21:08 | rangi | and then after the update |
| 21:08 | do | |
| 21:08 | sudo apt-get install koha-common | |
| 21:09 | it should pull in all the dependencies for you | |
| 21:10 | then you can get your tarball, unpack it | |
| 21:10 | run perl Makefile.PL | |
| 21:10 | talljoy | that shows me a whole long list of depends that are not installable |
| 21:10 | rangi | hmmmm |
| 21:10 | what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list | |
| 21:10 | did you install debian from cd? | |
| 21:11 | talljoy | okay...let me transcribe....different computer |
| 21:11 | rangi | it might be trying to find the packages from the cd, not from a main debian repo |
| 21:11 | talljoy | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib |
| 21:11 | deb-src same as above | |
| 21:11 | rangi | only squeeze-updates? |
| 21:12 | talljoy | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze-dev main |
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| 21:12 | talljoy | deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian lenny main and deb-src |
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| 21:12 | wizzyrea | lol gfdi. |
| 21:12 | talljoy | should i add lenny updates? |
| 21:13 | rangi | no definitely not lenny |
| 21:13 | or lenny updates | |
| 21:13 | talljoy | ok |
| 21:13 | rangi | and you dont need that deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian lenny main and deb-src |
| 21:13 | take that out | |
| 21:14 | talljoy | I did install from a cd. but have that commented out of the sources.list |
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| 21:14 | rangi | is there anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 21:14 | wahanui | Hmm. No matches for that, rangi. |
| 21:14 | rangi | somewhere you want a line |
| 21:14 | that is deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib | |
| 21:15 | (or similair, hostname may be different) | |
| 21:15 | without that, you are only seeing the squeeze-updates not all the squeeze packages, hence why it cant find them ;) | |
| 21:16 | talljoy | that makes sense. let me add a line for that |
| 21:16 | * rangi | has a 2 year old climbing on him so his instructions arent as good as they could be |
| 21:16 | rangi | sometimes that line is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list |
| 21:16 | but anywhere works | |
| 21:17 | talljoy | i added it to the /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 21:17 | rangi | if you try an update again now |
| 21:17 | then try the install again .. fingers crossed | |
| 21:17 | talljoy | just did. my speedy (ha!) machine is thinking |
| 21:18 | machine is giving me new results. much better looking than before. It is installing 'stuff' | |
| 21:18 | rangi | yay |
| 21:18 | cait | :) |
| 21:19 | talljoy | one more hurdle down. thx |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | :) |
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| 21:22 | indradg | wizzyrea, can I get a Calendar to show with an ExtendedPatronAttribute field? |
| 21:23 | cait | I think not by configuration - but sounds like a cool enhancement |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 21:23 | cait | I am not wizzyrea though :) |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | wizzyrea was trying to figure it out |
| 21:24 | >.> | |
| 21:24 | cait | wizzyrea? |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | I don't think so either |
| 21:24 | cait | hey, where is wahanui? |
| 21:24 | wahanui | i am a bot |
| 21:24 | cait | ! |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea? | |
| 21:24 | rangi? | |
| 21:24 | wahanui | well, rangi is a proud Māori whose sense of humour matches his prowess in coding. |
| 21:24 | cait | ts |
| 21:25 | rangi | cait? |
| 21:25 | wahanui | i guess cait is kf or a programmer |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | kf? |
| 21:25 | wahanui | well, kf is cait or really, really sweet. |
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| 21:25 | rangi | wahanui: cait is also a source of great chocolate |
| 21:25 | wahanui | okay, rangi. |
| 21:25 | rangi | cait? |
| 21:25 | wahanui | rumour has it cait is kf or a programmer or really sweet or a source of great chocolate |
| 21:25 | cait | lol |
| 21:26 | SteveJ | Did someone say chocolate? |
| 21:26 | cait | I think you are one of the very few persons around here that got real chocolate and not only virtual |
| 21:26 | rangi | :) |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | I can think of no better recipient |
| 21:26 | rangi | did you know that cait made space_librarian buy me chocolate during release week? |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | haha!@ |
| 21:27 | that's awesome | |
| 21:27 | cait | I did? |
| 21:27 | indradg | cait, thanks.. and I do know that you are wizzyrea :) |
| 21:27 | * cait | scratches her head in confusion |
| 21:28 | indradg | cait, oops! s/are/are not/ :P |
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| 21:28 | * indradg | should hit the bed soon... its 3am |
| 21:28 | cait | ouch |
| 21:28 | yeah you should! | |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | yikes |
| 21:28 | cait | you are worse than rangi |
| 21:29 | 3 am! | |
| 21:29 | indradg | cait, hehe... helps to have a very tolerant wife... who's a geek too :-) |
| 21:30 | cait | :) |
| 21:30 | rangi | hmm someone did |
| 21:30 | maybe it was wizzyrea | |
| 21:31 | cait | perhaps I suggested it, but I think I couldn't make her do something |
| 21:31 | :) | |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | i am sure that it was talked about |
| 21:31 | rangi | hehe |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | like "somebody should get rangi chocolate" |
| 21:31 | indradg | cait, wizzyrea, rangi the town library i'm working on has thrown up a small, but interesting patron requirement... we have a category - neo-literate... for these people, asking them for a DoB is impossible, so we have to make do with approximate age of the patron :) |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | the somebody close enough to actually do it, apparently did >.> |
| 21:31 | space_librarian++ | |
| 21:32 | oooo | |
| 21:32 | rangi | indradg: id use extended attributes |
| 21:32 | just make one that is a text box | |
| 21:32 | and make DOB not compulsory | |
| 21:33 | or just make up a date | |
| 21:33 | cait | compulsory? |
| 21:33 | ah,mandatory | |
| 21:33 | indradg | rangi, but what we have to do is that either of dob or age field has to filled |
| 21:34 | rangi | yeah, cant do that in koha |
| 21:34 | without developement work, there is no idea of either | |
| 21:34 | indradg | yep |
| 21:34 | rangi | a field is mandatory or not |
| 21:34 | how about just use DoB | |
| 21:34 | and if you dont know | |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | and approximate |
| 21:35 | rangi | make them born 1/1/someyear |
| 21:35 | indradg | rangi, can do that, and have an ExtendedPatronAttribute (searchable) with auth_val "age approximate" |
| 21:36 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | that seems like a not-crap workaround |
| 21:36 | ie good | |
| 21:36 | indradg | :) |
| 21:37 | yes, otherwise my work is nicely cut of... write it for 3.2.x and then rebase on 3.4 (for the future) | |
| 21:37 | rangi | 3.6 |
| 21:37 | always work on master | |
| 21:37 | and backport | |
| 21:37 | your life will be about 7 million times easier | |
| 21:37 | indradg | rangi, :) |
| 21:38 | rangi | and your could will be 10 million times more likely to get into koha |
| 21:39 | indradg | public libraries in my home state has some crazy membership and membership dues rules... none of which can be satisfied by stock Koha |
| 21:39 | rangi | (thats if it is something you want in upstream, if you just want it local, develop on a branch based off your local bit) |
| 21:40 | indradg | rangi, i'll have to look upstream ultimately... the 170 libraries are just the pilot... things go well... then we roll for the next 1000 by next year... and I'm not looking forward to a local fork |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | lordie 170! |
| 21:41 | * wizzyrea | gasps 1000! |
| 21:41 | * cait | just gasps |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | individual installs or all together? |
| 21:41 | indradg | wizzyrea, these are small libs with about 15k to 35k items |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | even so! |
| 21:41 | rangi | indradg: if you develop on a branch thats based (and kept up to date with master) then upstreaming is much easier |
| 21:41 | and backport your change | |
| 21:41 | s | |
| 21:41 | indradg | and about 500 members each |
| 21:42 | rangi | that way, no pain upgrading |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | still! |
| 21:42 | cait | I have 6 and they keep me busy! |
| 21:42 | rangi | this is something i have learnt through experience |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | 34 here |
| 21:42 | rangi | and yeah that is awesome news ;) |
| 21:42 | maybe you might like to fund robin and I to come teahc you how to build package and use puppet to upgrade them all in one go :) | |
| 21:43 | * rangi | fishes :) |
| 21:43 | indradg | :) |
| 21:43 | SteveJ | 4 here and that is about 3 more than I can handle.... |
| 21:43 | indradg | no funds for you and robin in official capacity at the moment... this is our make-or-break project |
| 21:43 | bg | I think we've got about 400+ |
| 21:44 | rangi | indradg: it was worth a shot :) |
| 21:44 | bg | :) |
| 21:44 | indradg | rangi, :) sure |
| 21:44 | * cait | suddenly feels very small :P |
| 21:45 | indradg | cait, don't... the librarians at 40% of these libs have to be trained to even how to handle a mouse... |
| 21:46 | rangi | indradg: i do recommend you look at the debian/build-git-snapshot |
| 21:46 | you can run that on any branch, and it will build a package from it | |
| 21:46 | indradg | rangi, these libs do not have connectivity... so we are going with clozezilla / usb-key based image upgrader |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | clonezilla++ just used that yesterday |
| 21:47 | rangi | cool, using the packages for dev/testing/staging is helpful too |
| 21:47 | indradg | with a bunch of nasty hacks to auto-customize the libs' configs - OS, apps, user profiles and Koha db |
| 21:47 | rangi | *nod* |
| 21:48 | indradg | rangi, will be checking that out |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | no wonder you're up so late :) |
| 21:48 | indradg | wizzyrea, comes at a price though... promised the #wife a 10-day vacation with no internet connectivity after we ship |
| 21:49 | :) | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | psh, by some standards that's pretty cheap ;) |
| 21:49 | rangi | indradg: feel free to pester us anytime |
| 21:50 | tis a great thing you are doing | |
| 21:50 | indradg | rangi, trust me I'll :) |
| 21:53 | cait | we can handle it :) |
| 21:54 | indradg | thanks friends :) |
| 21:54 | cait, wizzyrea rangi hope you all are coming to India later this year | |
| 21:54 | rangi | i wont be able to |
| 21:54 | indradg | rangi, oh |
| 21:55 | rangi | i am speaking at a conf in canada, then one in nz right after, they both kinda overlap with kohacon |
| 21:55 | indradg | ok |
| 21:55 | rangi | but ill be there in spirit :) |
| 21:57 | an maybe via streaming, who knows :) | |
| 21:59 | cait | you could do a remote 3.6 presentation |
| 21:59 | I loved your slides :) | |
| 21:59 | rangi | 3.6 will be released/being released |
| 21:59 | maybe ill do a live release | |
| 22:00 | hehe | |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | you'll be like steve jobs |
| 22:00 | HAHAHAHA | |
| 22:00 | teasing | |
| 22:00 | we'll like put the website in maintenance mode and eveyrthing! | |
| 22:00 | rangi | hehe |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | "something awesome is about to happen!" |
| 22:00 | cait | lol |
| 22:01 | rangi | we can get a volunteer to push the button |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | TA DA! |
| 22:01 | rangi | to tag the release |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | all right |
| 22:01 | enough of that friday/saturday silliness :) | |
| 22:01 | later friends | |
| 22:01 | rangi | im off to the market |
| 22:01 | to get some veges | |
| 22:01 | cait | bye liz :) have anice weekend! |
| 22:01 | rangi | bbl |
| 22:01 | cait | oh all leavin |
| 22:01 | g | |
| 22:02 | probably my clue to go to bed | |
| 22:02 | rangi | will try and empty my push queue tonight |
| 22:02 | cait | indradg: goand sleep! |
| 22:03 | indradg | lol |
| 22:08 | cait | I am serious |
| 22:09 | and i will give a good example :) | |
| 22:09 | good night #koha, see you tomorrow | |
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| 22:38 | pianohacker | Does anybody know how to make the koha-patches daily digest an actual daily digest? |
| 22:39 | Right now I get an email every 4 hours | |
| 22:39 | which kind of negates the point | |
| 22:39 | bg | every fours hours it's a new day somewhere :) |
| 22:40 | pianohacker | I guess... |
| 22:40 | I'll harass rangi about it | |
| 22:40 | bg | hmm.. pianohacker most likely it's a setting mailman somewhere.. maybe the admins of that can suggest something |
| 22:40 | pianohacker | that's what I'm hoping |
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| 23:26 | indradg | rangi, managed to hookup Calendar.setup() function to my 3rd ExtendedPatronAttribute via intranetuserjs :) |
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| 23:37 | druthb | o/ |
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| 23:40 | tcohen | @wunder madrid, españa |
| 23:40 | huginn` | tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 23:40 | tcohen | @wubder madrid, spain |
| 23:40 | huginn` | tcohen: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 23:40 | tcohen | @wunder madrid, spain |
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