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00:23 | jcamins_away | sfx-- |
00:23 | ebrary-- | |
00:23 | Who else has abusive closed information infrastructures? | |
00:23 | elsevier-- | |
00:27 | druthb | whazzup, jcamins_away? |
00:33 | jcamins_away | druthb: doing research. |
00:33 | And SFX and Ebrary irritate me no end. | |
00:34 | (that would be SFX "why no, my output isn't determinate, why would I tell you the same thing twice, when I can give you *different* wrong information every time?" and Ebrary "you don't need to see any page other than this one, right? good, I think I'll freeze now") | |
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01:08 | Brooke | kia ora |
01:19 | snail | Brooke: mōrena Brooke |
01:19 | Brooke | :D |
01:20 | I pēhea tō rā? | |
01:38 | jcamins_away | Today is the day when Myshkin's winter coat comes out all at once. |
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01:39 | jcamins_away | Naturally I'm wearing black, black, and black. |
01:39 | druthb | and stray hairs, right |
01:39 | ? | |
01:40 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
01:40 | Well, mostly just stray hairs. | |
01:40 | Somewhere underneath all the hair, though, there's black. | |
01:40 | druthb | Capt. Midnight's fur is short enough that it's not too big a problem. And it's *solid* black. |
01:56 | snail | Kei te pai tō rā, e hoa. |
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02:18 | rangi | screenshot of the day |
02:18 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=4038 | |
02:46 | snail | rangi: yes, but is he still alive because he's a human and the book allowed him to survive the zombies, or because he's a zombie and the book spread useful (to him) misinformation among the humans? |
02:47 | rangi | only one way to find out :) |
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05:45 | cait | morning #koha |
07:11 | rangi | heya cait |
07:15 | cait | hi rangi :) |
07:53 | rangi | cait: did you see this? http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=4038 |
07:56 | cait | the libravatar feature? yes :) |
07:57 | very cool | |
07:57 | hope to look at your notices thing later - planning to at least | |
07:57 | have to do some other paperwork first | |
07:57 | rangi | cool thanks |
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08:04 | scl | hi... any zebra experts around? |
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08:04 | indradg | hi... any zebra experts around? |
08:10 | cait | indradg: I am not an expert, but ask your question - perhaps someone will read and respond |
08:12 | indradg | cait, thanks... i need to index several indic languages - bengali, hindi and assamese in my catalog... does zebra play funky without proper ICU settings? |
08:13 | cait | you already use icuß |
08:13 | ? | |
08:15 | indradg | cait, oops! didn't phrase that correctly! mea culpa |
08:15 | what i meant was this option from the koha installer - "Primary language for Zebra indexing (en, fr) [en] " | |
08:16 | i vaguely remember that one needs to do something to tweak it for other languages... and came up with some mails from kete forum | |
08:17 | cait | indradg: I think it will not work without icu for you - it doesn't work for hebrew witout |
08:17 | indradg | http://kete.net.nz/documentati[…]39-managing-zebra particularly Ahmad Maher's description of problems with arabic with truncation |
08:17 | cait | and you can't select ICU with the web installer |
08:17 | you have to modify koha manually to make it work | |
08:18 | indradg | and I'm fine with that.. so I'm looking for where to do that work :) |
08:21 | cait | perhaps this helps: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-di[…]em-p28106148.html |
08:26 | indradg | checking! |
08:28 | cait, ah thanks a bunch :) i kind of vaguely remembered this post... thanks for the link :) | |
08:33 | cait | hope it helps :) |
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10:53 | druthb | o/ |
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11:38 | * Oak | waves |
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11:44 | * cait | waves |
11:44 | * jcamins | waves |
11:45 | cait | hi jcamins :) |
11:45 | druthb | good morning, jcamins. :) |
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12:24 | indradg | hi.. if I've life members who's only criteria is they must be over 18 years of age, what do most people do with the enrollment period? |
12:24 | druthb | The couple of times I've run into it, they set the expiration for 60 months; that lets them check up on the borrower address every five years. |
12:39 | indradg | druthb, thanks |
12:41 | jcamins | If I run rebuild_zebra without -z or -r, it won't take down the index, right? |
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12:43 | freebe | I am getting the below error on a Koha 4.0.0 installation |
12:43 | /usr/share/demo/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z | |
12:43 | Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at C4/Biblio.pm line 359. | |
12:43 | Any hint? | |
12:44 | jcamins | freebe: what version of Koha? |
12:44 | freebe | Koha 4.0.0 |
12:44 | jcamins | Ummm... there's no such thing. |
12:44 | freebe | 3.4.0 |
12:44 | cait | more likely ;) |
12:44 | freebe | :) |
12:44 | jcamins | Oh, okay. Well, I'm glad I checked that, because I was going to tell you 3.0.0 was very old. ;) |
12:45 | cait | probably an indexing problem |
12:45 | jcamins | freebe: do you use link_authorities_to_bibs.pl? |
12:45 | cait | happens when you try to take a look at a record? |
12:45 | freebe | jcamins, let me look for it |
12:45 | jcamins | freebe: no, if you haven't used it before, don't! |
12:46 | It's very, very dangerous. | |
12:46 | freebe | cait, It happens when the Koha cronjob execute /usr/share/demo/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z |
12:46 | jcamins, ok | |
12:47 | jcamins | freebe: check your environment? |
12:47 | Maybe KOHA_CONF isn't set? | |
12:47 | freebe: you do have data in the database, right? | |
12:47 | freebe | yep |
12:47 | jcamins | Is this an upgrade? |
12:47 | freebe | I think that can be the problem, let me add one record |
12:47 | No, it is not an upgrade | |
12:47 | It is a clean and new install | |
12:47 | jcamins | Okay. Did you go through the web installer? |
12:48 | freebe | yes |
12:48 | Circulation works | |
12:48 | and so on | |
12:48 | jcamins | Okay. I think the problem is that there's a typo in KOHA_CONF or something like that. |
12:48 | Try manually running rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r | |
12:49 | freebe | trying |
12:50 | /usr/share/koha/lib$ /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z | |
12:50 | Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at C4/Biblio.pm line 359. | |
12:50 | Same error | |
12:51 | jcamins | Not -z. |
12:51 | -r | |
12:51 | freebe | trying |
12:51 | It works with -r | |
12:51 | and now also with -z | |
12:51 | jcamins | Yeah. |
12:51 | freebe | thanks |
12:51 | jcamins | I had a feeling. |
12:51 | You're welcome. | |
12:52 | freebe | What do you think it was the cause of that? |
12:52 | jcamins | Your index wasn't properly initialized. |
12:52 | freebe | I see |
12:52 | thanks | |
12:52 | jcamins | And you had something in zebraqueue that was pointing to an invalid record. |
12:52 | cait | jcamins++ |
12:53 | freebe | jcamins, I think I had something in zebraqueue that was pointing to an invalid record because I deleted a record which I was circulation and maybe Zebra was not able to sync properly |
12:53 | ? | |
12:53 | jcamins | Yes. |
12:54 | tcohen wrote a fix for this. | |
12:54 | It's a very major bug, in my opinion. | |
12:54 | tcohen++ | |
12:54 | cait | does it still need sign-off? |
12:54 | jcamins | I don't think so. |
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12:54 | freebe | Can you let me know the bug number |
12:54 | I am going to repeat the test to see if that lack of synchronisation happens again | |
12:54 | jcamins | It's part of bug 5166. |
12:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Refactor rebuild_zebra.pl into a library |
12:55 | freebe | thanks |
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12:55 | jcamins | freebe: no, it probably won't now that you've gotten your index initialized properly. |
12:55 | freebe | I see |
12:55 | thanks | |
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13:06 | freebe | jcamins, Note that even now, with the Zebra index right, I get |
13:06 | Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/demo/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2096. | |
13:06 | When importing the same record | |
13:07 | I get that error as Koha offers me to choose between Edit the record or add a new one | |
13:07 | jcamins | freebe: okay, in that case it's a corrupted record. |
13:07 | freebe | If I choose to edit the record (which does not exits as it was deleted) then I get the above Error in the Koha admin web interface |
13:07 | jcamins | Oh, of course. |
13:08 | If you've deleted the record, you can't edit it. | |
13:08 | freebe | yes |
13:08 | I think Koha admin should not me offer to edit it if it does not exist | |
13:09 | cait | it will not offer it any longer, once the index has been updated |
13:09 | jcamins | I guess I'm not entirely sure what the issue here is. It will show up until the cronjob runs. |
13:09 | freebe | I thought the index was already updated with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z |
13:09 | isn't it? | |
13:09 | jcamins | How often is that running? |
13:10 | freebe | 5 minutes via cron |
13:10 | but I run it by hand | |
13:10 | previously to that Koha admin operation | |
13:10 | jcamins | freebe: I'm not sure what the problem is, but I suspect it's in your workflow. |
13:10 | freebe | ok, thanks |
13:11 | cait | delete - run cronjob |
13:11 | after that it should have disappeared | |
13:15 | freebe | done |
13:16 | testing again | |
13:16 | jcamins | freebe: what is it exactly that you want to do? |
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13:17 | freebe | I want to know how to get rig of that error |
13:17 | being my mistake or Koha one | |
13:18 | jcamins | freebe: I guess what I'm wondering is, if this error is specific to your unusual workflow of adding a record, immediately deleting it, then trying to edit the record, couldn't you just tell your librarians "don't try to edit records immediately after deleting them"? |
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13:19 | freebe | yes, I think so |
13:20 | and telling them not trying to import the same record just after deleting it | |
13:20 | or increase the cron frequency | |
13:22 | jcamins | Right. |
13:24 | freebe | Just for your information |
13:24 | I have deleted all records | |
13:24 | run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z | |
13:24 | and imported again | |
13:25 | and the Koha admin offers Edit besides the create option | |
13:25 | clicking 'Edit' shows | |
13:25 | Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/demo/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2096. | |
13:25 | So maybe it is not an index update problem? | |
13:26 | jcamins | freebe: where are you seeing this? |
13:27 | Also, how did you delete the records? | |
13:27 | freebe | I see it at |
13:27 | /cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl | |
13:27 | I deleted it at | |
13:28 | /cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=1 | |
13:28 | jcamins | And how are you importing? |
13:29 | freebe | I imported it via a Z39.50 search |
13:29 | jcamins | Hm. |
13:29 | freebe | The import worked rightly as I was able to circulate it |
13:30 | jcamins | Hm. |
13:31 | I'm out of ideas, sorry. | |
13:31 | freebe | no problem |
13:31 | thanks for all your help | |
13:32 | I can look at it a little more and report to you if I think I find the cause | |
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15:52 | jcamins | Brunch time! Hip hooray for brunch time! Everybody stop at brunch time! |
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18:43 | jcamins | It turns out that 20 pounds of chapatti flour is just as heavy as 20 pounds of whole wheat flour. :) |
18:50 | cait1 | is that surprising? |
18:50 | jcamins | cait1: no, just commenting. |
18:50 | cait1 | oh |
18:50 | cait1 is now known as kf | |
18:50 | kf is now known as cait | |
18:50 | cait | killing the 1 |
18:50 | jcamins | That was supposed to be a diplomatic way of cheering about the fact that I just got 20 pounds of chapatti flour. :) |
18:51 | cait | aha! |
18:52 | jcamins | Now I need a container large enough for storing all purpose flour. |
18:55 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
18:56 | cait2 | yes |
18:56 | keep it save from the bugs | |
18:56 | jcamins | Exactly. |
18:57 | A 5 gallon bucket ought to do pretty well. | |
19:00 | But then, perhaps a larger one would do better. | |
19:07 | cait | salmon and green salad |
19:07 | yum | |
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19:08 | cait | evening hdl |
19:12 | magnuse | kia ora |
19:20 | cait | hi magnus |
19:20 | waking up?;) | |
19:21 | magnuse | nah, going to sleep soon |
19:29 | gotta get up at 6 tomorrow - not used to that... | |
19:36 | cait | travelling? |
19:36 | wizzyrea_away is now known as wizzy_home | |
19:37 | hdl | hi cait |
19:38 | magnuse | yep, i'm in stavanger tonight, and travelling half an hour by train tomorrow morning, for two days of koha training |
19:38 | hiya wizzy_home | |
19:38 | wizzy_home | hello :) |
19:38 | cait | hi wizzy :) |
19:39 | wizzy_home | how is everyone? |
19:39 | jcamins | wizzy_home: I was just thinking about you, actually. |
19:39 | wizzy_home | oh yea? |
19:39 | that explains the tickle in my ear | |
19:40 | cait | weekend is over too early |
19:40 | wizzy_home | *nod |
19:40 | much much too early | |
19:40 | jcamins | Yup. Among other things, I just bought 20 pounds of chapatti flour. :) |
19:40 | wizzy_home | ooo |
19:40 | what are you planning on making? | |
19:40 | jcamins | I don't know. |
19:44 | magnuse | chappatis, by the sound of it... |
19:44 | wizzy_home | oho |
19:45 | slef | mmm chappatis |
19:46 | wizzy_home | hmm, wheat and malted barley flour eh? |
19:46 | that's a lot of roti :P | |
19:46 | slef | I've malted grain flour... is that the same? |
19:46 | wizzy_home | i am not sure, i had to ask mr. google |
19:46 | * slef | notes he has nfc where stavanger is |
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19:47 | jcamins | wizzy_home: yeah, it's finely ground, and higher protein content than other wheat. |
19:48 | wizzy_home | so, not as stretchy (less gluten?) |
19:48 | or is my thinking backwards | |
19:48 | jcamins | Backwards. |
19:48 | wizzy_home | more stretchy :) |
19:49 | jcamins | Right. |
19:49 | Or, I suppose, it should be more work to stretch it, but it'll hold its shape better. | |
19:49 | wizzy_home | i'm reminded that I ought to make naan |
19:50 | nom no m onm nom nom indianfood nom nom nom | |
19:50 | jcamins | We just went to an Indian restaurant for brunch. |
19:50 | _So_ good. | |
19:50 | wizzy_home | we went to a brunchy place, with fancy brunchy food. |
19:51 | spud was in heaven... they had canteloupe and ham. and cheesecake. And green beans. | |
19:51 | not all together of course | |
19:56 | magnuse | hehe cool spud |
19:56 | what was that quote again? run run run fall down kick in the face? | |
19:56 | wizzy_home | hehe yea |
19:56 | he's still on about that | |
19:56 | jcamins | What? |
19:56 | wizzy_home | when watching rugby, that's spud's cheer |
19:56 | jcamins | Aww. |
19:56 | wizzy_home | "run! run! run! Fall down! Kick in the face!!" |
19:57 | jcamins | That's slightly disturbing, but very cute. |
19:57 | slef | OT: when's the next general meeting? |
19:57 | jcamins | 11 May 2011 0200 UTC+0 |
19:57 | * jcamins | reads from the topic |
19:57 | wizzy_home | agreed, it's slightly disturbing, but think about rugby for a mo, and it's like, well yea |
19:57 | that's pretty much what it's about | |
19:57 | jcamins | True. |
19:58 | wizzy_home | honesty, I like it ;) |
19:58 | magnuse | hehe, that quote pops into my head every now and then ;-) |
19:58 | jcamins | :) |
19:58 | wizzy_home | :D |
19:58 | slef | jcamins: thanks. :) |
19:59 | 0300 local :-/ | |
19:59 | jcamins | slef: you're welcome. |
19:59 | I don't think I'll be there. | |
19:59 | slef | I probably will be. Unless I pass out first. |
19:59 | wizzy_home | or get up reeeallly early |
19:59 | slef | wizzy_home: yeah. naw. |
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20:10 | adnc_ | cait, hallo! |
20:11 | cait | hi adnc_ |
20:12 | jcamins | @later tell rangi Bug 5449 was never merged into Master. I reset the patch status to "Signed off," because I wasn't sure what else to do with it. The patch still merges cleanly. |
20:12 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
20:13 | cait | bug 5449 |
20:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5449 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED , JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x |
20:20 | rangi | hmm i never put a comment on the bug, i suspect i just switched the wrong status |
20:21 | ah yes i was/and still am waiting for more information on it | |
20:22 | but if its causing no errors for owen, ill meerge it | |
20:23 | jcamins | Well, in my testing it didn't cause any errors. |
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20:23 | jcamins | But I was only using 1.3.whatever-comes-with-Koha and 1.4.whatever-comes-with-Debian. |
20:24 | rangi | we'll soon find out |
20:24 | jcamins | :) |
20:24 | rangi++ | |
20:24 | adnc_ | i'm getting a warning from the koha daily cronjobs: kutuphane: No branches with active overduerules at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl line 296. |
20:25 | does someone know what the problem could be? | |
20:25 | jcamins | adnc_: yes, that's because you don't have overdue triggers set up. |
20:25 | rangi | means you have set up overdue rules |
20:25 | havent even | |
20:25 | adnc_ | where are they? I think I did |
20:25 | cait | adnc_ go to tools > notice triggers |
20:25 | jcamins | Tools->Notices. |
20:26 | cait | avoid the default library, set rules for your specific library |
20:26 | jcamins | Wait, no, Tools->Overdue notice/status triggers |
20:26 | Sorry, I always get those two confused. | |
20:26 | adnc_ | cait, mahntrigger? |
20:26 | cait | adnc: mahntrigger in der deutschen übersetzung, dort nicht bei Standard eintragen, Standard frei lassen - und bei deiner angelegten bibliothek regeln eintragen |
20:26 | geanu | |
20:27 | genau | |
20:28 | du kannst die Beanchrichtigungen unter Benachrichtigungen konfigurieren, unterschiedliche für die 1., 2. und 3. Benachrichtigung, wichtig ist nur, dass du dort Modul Ausleihe nimmst | |
20:28 | adnc_ | Es wurde eine Verzögerung von delay1 für Benutzertyp Personal der Bibliothek eingestellt, aber keine schriftliche Benachrichtigung oder Sperraktion festgelegt. Wenn eine Verzögerung eingestellt ist, sollte entweder eine Benachrichtigung, eine Sperraktion oder beides festgelegt werden. |
20:28 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 243 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
20:28 | cait | adnc_ musst noch eine benachrichtigung auswählen |
20:29 | unter werkzeuge > benachrichtigungen kannst du die anlegen, die beispielbenachrichtigung heisst ODUE | |
20:30 | magnuse | g'night #koha |
20:30 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
20:30 | rangi | cya magnus_away |
20:30 | cait | night magnuse :) |
20:32 | adnc_ | cait, super, jetzt müsste ich es noch probieren |
20:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'kc/new/bug_5449' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6bc8d52525a62d518> |
20:32 | adnc_ | the warning is gone now, thanks |
20:34 | cait | cool |
20:38 | * jcamins | waves to druthb, very belatedly |
20:39 | * druthb | waves back. |
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21:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #243: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/243/ |
21:10 | Julian Maurice: Bug 5449: JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x | |
21:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5449 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, brice.sanchez, ASSIGNED , JSON malformed in Koha - Blocker with jQuery 1.4.x |
21:10 | rangi | cool |
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21:14 | * jcamins | mutters imprecations at the American obsession with having your own car. |
21:14 | wizzy_home | ha |
21:16 | jcamins | I want to get to a rather remote part of New Jersey. |
21:17 | I may end up forced to rent a car to get there. | |
21:17 | wizzy_home | hrm |
21:18 | jcamins | This is absurd. |
21:19 | Just in case you were unclear on that. | |
21:19 | Or catch a 4am train. | |
21:19 | To get somewhere an hour away at 9. | |
21:19 | wizzy_home | hm neither prospect seems appealing |
21:19 | jcamins | I agree. |
21:20 | rangi | having driven in NJ |
21:20 | id take the train | |
21:20 | :-) | |
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21:21 | jcamins | rangi: there is only one. |
21:21 | And it's on the wrong day. | |
21:21 | wizzy_home | d'oh |
21:21 | jcamins | I think I'll end up taking the 4am train, though. |
21:26 | On that horrifying note, I think it's time to work on my paper. | |
21:29 | cait | good luck with the paper |
21:29 | time to sleep here | |
21:30 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
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21:50 | indradg | hi... is the holiday calender need to filled in, in a certain order to have them being listed in date-wise order in the list of "Unique Holidays" ? |
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22:22 | * druthb | waves to Space_Librarian |
22:23 | * Space_Librarian | waves back |
22:23 | druthb | :D :D |
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