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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:17 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 00:57 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 00:57 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 00:57 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 01:07 | rangi | well thats stupid of them |
| 01:08 | space_librarian | yes. |
| 01:08 | rangi | gmcharlt: check this out |
| 01:08 | Three vendors have been selected to work with Kōtui to develop a shared library system operated by | |
| 01:08 | +the National Library of New Zealand for subscribing public libraries. The vendors are SirsiDynix, | |
| 01:08 | +EBSCO Publishing, and Computer Concepts Ltd. | |
| 01:09 | brendan_ | yup that's stupid |
| 01:10 | rangi | cant change their minds now either |
| 01:10 | or SD will sue them | |
| 01:10 | brendan_ | ouch |
| 01:10 | rangi | its their thing! |
| 01:10 | you saw that lawsuit last week eh? | |
| 01:10 | brendan_ | nope |
| 01:10 | this still the queens one? | |
| 01:11 | rangi | no |
| 01:11 | they sued a library | |
| 01:11 | lemme find it | |
| 01:11 | for changing their mind | |
| 01:11 | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]erse.pl?Year=2011 | |
| 01:12 | gmcharlt | EBSCO? |
| 01:12 | EBSCO?!? | |
| 01:12 | rangi | rest of the world runs from SD |
| 01:12 | our natlib installs it | |
| 01:12 | crazy heads | |
| 01:12 | * space_librarian | hangs her head at the bullheaded stupidity |
| 01:12 | rangi | gmcharlt: yeah that was my reaction too |
| 01:12 | what even is their discovery layer? | |
| 01:13 | EBSCO | |
| 01:13 | +Publishing providing EBSCO Discovery Service, the service that allows combined discovery of both | |
| 01:13 | +physical and electronic items held by the library, | |
| 01:14 | gmcharlt | rangi: the discovery piece isn't necessarily completely out of line; what I don't get is EBSCO proposing to write a system to handle the backend functionality |
| 01:14 | what about Computer Concepts? know anything about them? | |
| 01:14 | rangi | brendan_: http://www.libraryjournal.com/[…]___north.html.csp |
| 01:14 | nope, im guessing htey are some general it shop, ill look em up | |
| 01:15 | brendan_ | do others get csp errors from LJ - I usually have to refresh everytime I go there |
| 01:15 | rangi | http://www.concepts.co.nz/ |
| 01:15 | bottom left | |
| 01:15 | says it all | |
| 01:16 | ms reseller | |
| 01:16 | thats what they are | |
| 01:16 | brendan_: yes i do | |
| 01:16 | brendan_ | ok thanks - that's annoying - but not just me ;) |
| 01:17 | ah suing for switching to WMS | |
| 01:18 | tcohen left #koha | |
| 01:33 | rangi | eythian: what was the bug you wanted a sign off on? |
| 01:33 | eythian | Bug 5509 |
| 01:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5509 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Packaging scripts get upset when there's an LDAP configuration in the koha_conf.xml |
| 01:33 | rangi | ah cool |
| 01:33 | eythian | I thought I needed it for something else, but it actually turned out I didn't after all. |
| 01:33 | It's still a good one to put in though | |
| 01:33 | rangi | heh |
| 01:33 | yup | |
| 01:34 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6033 : Template changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7653653721efe4006> / Bug 6033 : wr77488 : report selection filter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1aea8b04ad99d00c1> |
| 01:34 | rangi | ill add it to master, and if its ok there, chris_n could cherry-pick it to 3.4.x |
| 01:35 | eythian | ok |
| 01:35 | * rangi | will just build a package here with it first to test |
| 01:39 | rangi | building now, then ill do an install, koha-create, add some ldap stuff and try a koha-dump |
| 01:40 | eythian | yep, that'll do it |
| 01:40 | rangi | cool |
| 01:40 | eythian | try with LDAP stuff above and below where the database password is, as that's what was causing the issue: it would find the (first|last) one in the file, I forget which. |
| 01:40 | rangi | ahh righto will do |
| 01:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 234 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 01:55 | druthb | o/ |
| 01:55 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 01:56 | tornado miss you? | |
| 01:56 | druthb | no problems here. |
| 01:56 | rangi | cool |
| 01:57 | good to hear | |
| 02:00 | * rangi | didnt actually need ops, was just seeing if i could remember how to do it :) |
| 02:03 | rangi | oh wow, that looks a lot better |
| 02:03 | http://kudos.koha-community.or[…]nference-program/ | |
| 02:03 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 02:03 | brooke++ | |
| 02:03 | nora++ | |
| 02:15 | eythian: all good | |
| 02:15 | ill push that up in a bit | |
| 02:15 | eythian | sweet ta |
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| 02:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #234: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/234/ |
| 02:24 | * Srdjan Jankovic: Bug 6033 : wr77488 : report selection filter | |
| 02:24 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 6033 : Template changes | |
| 02:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6033 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED, Add Filters to SQL Saved Reports |
| 02:26 | gmcharlt joined #koha | |
| 02:27 | druthb left #koha | |
| 02:27 | rangi | restarting a screen gmcharlt ? |
| 02:36 | bg | restarting ice-cream :) |
| 02:36 | * bg | was trying to ryme |
| 02:37 | rangi | heh |
| 02:38 | * space_librarian | looks at Kudoscon program and is really envious... |
| 02:38 | bg | oh good - I'm going and I wasn't totally envious |
| 02:39 | rangi | hehe |
| 02:39 | bg | that encourages me |
| 02:39 | :) | |
| 02:39 | rangi | its got a lot better bg |
| 02:39 | bg | let's hope this is awesome - kudos needs it big time |
| 02:40 | space_librarian | I would be really interested to hear the majority of the talks... |
| 02:40 | which I think is a good thing... | |
| 02:44 | will the talks be posted online afterwards? | |
| 02:46 | eythian | I hope so. I'd like to see druthb's one. |
| 02:47 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 02:48 | rangi | yeah, that will be a good one |
| 02:53 | bg | yeah I think druthb maybe talking with lori? |
| 02:55 | rangi | i think that might have changed |
| 02:55 | http://kudos.koha-community.or[…]nference-program/ | |
| 02:55 | the old programme had that, but its just ruth on the new one | |
| 02:55 | tcohen left #koha | |
| 02:55 | gmcharlt | rangi: bouncy hotel wifi |
| 02:55 | rangi | gmcharlt: ah that'd do it |
| 02:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 235 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5509 - use an XML parser to get values from config <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b9456be72648ce0f4> |
| 03:09 | bg | hiya gmcharlt |
| 03:09 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 03:09 | just because you're awesome :) | |
| 03:10 | gmcharlt | hi bg |
| 03:10 | ? | |
| 03:10 | bg | gmcharlt sonja and I had some nice grilled elk tonight and we talked about you |
| 03:10 | we need to grill some elk sometime soon for you | |
| 03:10 | cait joined #koha | |
| 03:11 | rangi | what the hell |
| 03:11 | go to sleep cait ! | |
| 03:11 | bg | heh go to sleep cait ! |
| 03:11 | that sounds like an echo | |
| 03:12 | gmcharlt | aww, thanks |
| 03:12 | bg: I'd look forward to that | |
| 03:12 | cait: good morning (?) | |
| 03:12 | * space_librarian | gives cait a cookie and some tea |
| 03:13 | mtj | sheeh, i just read the Kōtui news in the scrollback |
| 03:13 | space_librarian | yep |
| 03:16 | * gmcharlt | heading to bed, g'night |
| 03:17 | mtj | cya galen |
| 03:17 | rangi | night gmcharlt |
| 03:17 | space_librarian | ciao |
| 03:17 | bg | heya mtj |
| 03:18 | * bg | preferred the nick mason :) |
| 03:18 | bg | alright night all - time to walk the pups |
| 03:19 | mtj | yeah, me too - but it was snaffled already |
| 03:19 | rangi | cya bg |
| 03:19 | bg | bummer |
| 03:19 | later rangi | |
| 03:19 | * bg | preferred a nice simple brendan - instead of bg |
| 03:20 | mtj | yeah... but hey - think of the bytes we are saving! |
| 03:21 | eythian | peak bytes is years away |
| 03:21 | rangi | not the way the bytecaps are melting |
| 03:22 | mtj | rumor is, the yanks are hording bytes |
| 03:23 | ... vast underground bunkers of the stuff, its crazy | |
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| 03:24 | AmitG | heya chris |
| 03:24 | heya ll | |
| 03:24 | rangi | hi AmitG |
| 03:24 | cait | morning #koha |
| 03:25 | * mtj | waves at amit and cait |
| 03:25 | cait | and can't go back to bad - have to catch a train :) |
| 03:25 | s/bad/bed | |
| 03:32 | mtj | you go girl! |
| 03:38 | AmitG | heya mtj |
| 03:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #235: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/235/ |
| 03:39 | Robin Sheat: Bug 5509 - use an XML parser to get values from config | |
| 03:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5509 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Packaging scripts get upset when there's an LDAP configuration in the koha_conf.xml |
| 03:46 | cait | 1+172+5+10+1+3 |
| 03:46 | wahanui | 192 |
| 03:46 | cait | 1+3+51+2+2+1+9+27+34+8+12 |
| 03:46 | wahanui | 150 |
| 03:48 | cait | rangi: where did the 222 come from yesterday? |
| 03:50 | rangi | hmm i forget |
| 03:50 | lemme look | |
| 03:51 | cait | I summed the numbers all koha and evergreen form the turnover report |
| 03:52 | rangi | ah typo |
| 03:52 | i did 72 not 27 | |
| 03:53 | cait | ok :) |
| 03:53 | still great numbers compared to everything else in the list | |
| 03:53 | rangi | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]over.pl?Year=2009 |
| 03:53 | was big too | |
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| 03:55 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 04:00 | cait | 2011 will be great too |
| 04:00 | rangi | yep |
| 04:02 | space_librarian | namaste kmkale |
| 04:03 | cait | hi kmkale :) |
| 04:03 | kmkale | hi cait |
| 04:03 | hi space_librarian | |
| 04:03 | hi rangi | |
| 04:03 | * space_librarian | waves |
| 04:03 | kmkale | :) |
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| 04:46 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6275] Automated backups of data and config <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6275> |
| 04:50 | cait | bye :) |
| 04:51 | rangi | cya cait |
| 04:51 | space_librarian | bye! |
| 04:52 | cait left #koha | |
| 04:55 | AmitG left #koha | |
| 04:56 | Brooke_ joined #koha | |
| 04:56 | Brooke_ | kia ora! |
| 04:56 | rangi | heya Brooke_ |
| 04:56 | testing joined #koha | |
| 04:57 | space_librarian | hey Brooke_ |
| 04:58 | testing left #koha | |
| 04:59 | space_librarian | right. I'll be back... a little later. |
| 05:00 | Brooke_ left #koha | |
| 05:01 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 05:01 | Brooke | pain getting rid of that _ |
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| 05:05 | Brooke | 0/ |
| 05:11 | brendan_ | hiya Brooke |
| 05:11 | hey AmitG | |
| 05:12 | AmitG | heya brendan_ |
| 05:12 | wahanui | brendan_ is a big fan of koha or the best boss evar! |
| 05:18 | AmitG | heya Brookee |
| 05:20 | Brooke | wahanui botsnack m&ms |
| 05:20 | wahanui | :) |
| 05:27 | AmitG | heya wahanui |
| 05:29 | pianohacker left #koha | |
| 05:29 | pianohacker joined #koha | |
| 05:29 | pianohacker | Hey, that's what shutting the lid on my laptop does |
| 05:30 | brendan_ | HA |
| 05:34 | * rangi | waves from the bus |
| 05:34 | Oak | oh rangi where are you going? |
| 05:34 | rangi | home |
| 05:35 | Oak | see ya soon |
| 05:35 | rangi | I ride the bus to and from work each week day |
| 05:35 | Oak | good. green planet. and such. |
| 05:35 | rangi | 25 min ride, but I can irc from it, so I dont mind |
| 05:36 | yeah, of the 100 or so of us at work, I think about 6 drive | |
| 05:36 | brendan_ | catalyst++ |
| 05:36 | rangi | lots bike, the rest of us train or bus |
| 05:37 | brendan_ | green_companies++ |
| 05:38 | rangi | not_enough_parking++ |
| 05:38 | brendan_ | the best I can say is that no one in my company has to drive to work |
| 05:38 | rangi | :) |
| 05:38 | brendan_ | but you maybe afraid to see us in our work clothes |
| 05:39 | Brooke | heh |
| 05:39 | rangi | heh |
| 05:39 | Oak | why whats your dress code? |
| 05:40 | brendan_ | it's all virtual |
| 05:40 | Oak | ahh |
| 05:40 | are there job openings? | |
| 05:40 | brendan_ | always |
| 05:40 | * Brooke | wore a tux for a few weeks straight at Albany Public HeLl over their dumb arse dress code. |
| 05:41 | * Oak | imagines Brooke in a tux |
| 05:41 | Brooke | used to be a regular occurrence :P |
| 05:42 | Oak | :) |
| 05:44 | rangi | ppl make fun of me if I wear a collared shirt to work |
| 05:44 | that gives u an idea of our dresscode | |
| 05:44 | Brooke | I <3 those sechsy red and black shirts. |
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| 05:59 | * Brooke | is pining for the next First Monday to be out. |
| 06:00 | pianohacker | Brooke++ # I hadn't heard of this before |
| 06:00 | Brooke | oh yeah |
| 06:00 | * Brooke | was a ghetto Librarian too long to not know some of the non fenced in journals. |
| 06:01 | pianohacker | Bleh, journals are such a racket |
| 06:03 | * Brooke | grins. |
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| 06:06 | AmitG | heya pianohacker, kmkale |
| 06:06 | pianohacker | Hello, master of the delayed response ;) |
| 06:07 | brendan_ | HA |
| 06:07 | painohacker++ | |
| 06:07 | damnit | |
| 06:07 | pianohacker++ | |
| 06:07 | YAY | |
| 06:07 | pianohacker | Hahahahaha |
| 06:07 | brendan_ | so how many times have I done that one |
| 06:07 | pianohacker | Don't know what I did to you, but man |
| 06:07 | brendan_ | I'd say maybe 60 time |
| 06:07 | s | |
| 06:08 | maybe because it's all the Xen pain that you left me | |
| 06:09 | pianohacker | You mean Xen _beauty_ |
| 06:09 | Only what, 8 domains? | |
| 06:09 | brendan_ | shit I was counting three |
| 06:10 | guess zabbix wasn't as important | |
| 06:10 | * Brooke | chuckles |
| 06:10 | points out that no one stands a chance at knowing Pianohacker's mind, so ye might as well just let him do his thang. | |
| 06:10 | * brendan_ | was a little surprised that you didn't have a nagios domain |
| 06:11 | pianohacker | ...tried nagios, preferred zabbix |
| 06:11 | nagios configuration is a little opaque | |
| 06:11 | Brooke: WATCH YE, FOR HERE BE DRAGONS | |
| 06:11 | Brooke | :D |
| 06:11 | kmkale left #koha | |
| 06:12 | kmkale_ is now known as kmkale | |
| 06:12 | brendan_ | pianohacker - how many coding languages do you know |
| 06:13 | pianohacker | Umm. Perl, Python, Bash, JavaScript and now C/C++ |
| 06:13 | * Brooke | likes that "coding" was specified. |
| 06:14 | pianohacker | hehe |
| 06:14 | Brooke | else, it's a longer list. |
| 06:14 | pianohacker | slightly longer :) Japanese and Spanish are very occasional hobbies at this point |
| 06:14 | brendan_ | ok *whew* I've heard of those |
| 06:14 | pianohacker | LibertyBASIC? Very first one I learned, proprietary windows-specific |
| 06:15 | brendan_ | nope |
| 06:15 | pianohacker | you're not missing much |
| 06:15 | brendan_ | my first IRC was visualbasic |
| 06:15 | pianohacker | Need to learn Java, actually, seems like half the companies on the planet use the blasted verbose monstrosity |
| 06:15 | Brooke | my first IRC was on a Vax undercover cause Uni didn't like chat. |
| 06:16 | and it was mostly italian. | |
| 06:16 | pianohacker | ...wait, what? |
| 06:16 | brendan_: nice language to start on | |
| 06:17 | brendan_ | heh - that's what my teacher keep saying |
| 06:17 | * Oak | wants to learn Perl and Python. Wanted to start with Perl (because of Koha)... then decided to go with Python because of this article: http://www.python.org/about/success/esr/ |
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| 06:18 | * Brooke | waves to hdl. |
| 06:18 | brendan_ | heya hdl |
| 06:18 | hdl++ | |
| 06:18 | Brooke | @karma hdl |
| 06:18 | huginn | Brooke: Karma for "hdl" has been increased 39 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 39. |
| 06:18 | Brooke | what what what?! |
| 06:18 | only 39? | |
| 06:19 | brendan_ | 39 is a good number -- 3 goes into 9 |
| 06:19 | * Brooke | suspects that hdl is blending in with the wallpaper again. |
| 06:19 | pianohacker | Oak: Heh, esr's a force of nature. Yeah, Perl gets wonky, especially when you get to projects the size of, say, Koha |
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| 06:19 | hdl | hi brendan_ what happened that made you ++ |
| 06:19 | * Brooke | waves to Cait |
| 06:19 | * cait | waves to Brooke :) |
| 06:19 | hdl | hi Brooke my karma must be stuck in irc.katipo.co.nz |
| 06:19 | Oak | pianohacker, :) |
| 06:20 | hdl | But who cares ? |
| 06:20 | brendan_ | just because - you've got a lot of great code sitting out there.... plus good ideas |
| 06:20 | hdl | hi pianohacker |
| 06:20 | Brooke | d'accord |
| 06:20 | hdl | welcome here. |
| 06:20 | brendan_: thanks for your regard. | |
| 06:20 | cait | Brooke: what happened to your _? |
| 06:21 | brendan_ | and hdl I haven't been around alot lately |
| 06:21 | * Brooke | gave it an ultimatum. |
| 06:21 | pianohacker | Hi hdl |
| 06:21 | hdl | saw that... quite logical |
| 06:22 | Brooke | Koha isn't necessarily about what one does lately, but rather what one does for life. |
| 06:22 | pianohacker | yup |
| 06:25 | Oak | Brooke, what do you mean |
| 06:25 | Brooke | I mean |
| 06:25 | that it's long termy | |
| 06:25 | rather than short termy | |
| 06:25 | though short termy helps | |
| 06:26 | pianohacker | It's also got one of the best open-source communities I've seen |
| 06:27 | Oak | okie doky |
| 06:28 | * Oak | did not get to what context it was said - does for life thing |
| 06:28 | cait | community++ :) |
| 06:31 | matts_away is now known as matts | |
| 06:32 | alex_a | hi #koha |
| 06:33 | Brooke | bug 5158 |
| 06:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED, Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors |
| 06:34 | Brooke | pfft not closed yet. |
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| 06:38 | Brooke | cat's chewing me out for not being asleep |
| 06:38 | better do what socks says or my toes will suffer a clawin. | |
| 06:38 | Brooke left #koha | |
| 06:39 | cait | hi alex_a |
| 06:42 | internet connection is not the best from this train :( | |
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| 07:02 | francharb | hello all |
| 07:03 | cait | hi francharb |
| 07:03 | francharb | hi cait |
| 07:04 | cait | @wunder stuttgart |
| 07:04 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:04 | cait | @wunder Stuttgart, Germany |
| 07:04 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:05 | cait | hmpf |
| 07:06 | alex_a | @wunder marseille, france |
| 07:06 | huginn | alex_a: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 15.0�C (9:00 AM CEST on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:06 | alex_a | \o/ |
| 07:10 | kmkale joined #koha | |
| 07:13 | cait | @wunder Reutlingen |
| 07:13 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is 9.5�C (9:15 AM CEST on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 28.64 in 969.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:13 | cait | brrr |
| 07:14 | francharb left #koha | |
| 07:16 | alex_a | cait: brrr too |
| 07:16 | ;) | |
| 07:17 | cait | but still warmer! |
| 07:17 | francharb joined #koha | |
| 07:17 | cait | we had about 20 degrees the last few days |
| 07:17 | missing it already | |
| 07:19 | Oak | 35 here |
| 07:19 | pianohacker | Jesus you can hear thunder underground in minecraft I just almost had a heart attack |
| 07:19 | speaking of weather | |
| 07:22 | AmitG left #koha | |
| 07:26 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 07:34 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:34 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0�C (9:20 AM CEST on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:35 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:35 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.8�C (9:35 AM CEST on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:36 | cait | @wunder STR |
| 07:36 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in 2 mi s of EDDS, Filderstadt, Germany is 8.1�C (9:38 AM CEST on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:40 | cait | probably the wrong code |
| 07:45 | magnuse | "You cannot access this page because the extension 'Voting' is disabled." http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug&bug_id=3644 |
| 07:45 | is that done on purpose, or is it a bug? | |
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| 07:47 | cait | hm yes I missed it too |
| 07:47 | perhaps ask rangi about it later | |
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| 07:52 | AmitG | heya cait |
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| 08:32 | magnuse | bonjour biblibre |
| 08:35 | alex_a | bonjour magnuse |
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| 08:46 | slef | rangi: magnuse: yeah, I've a symbian nokia. Least open FOSS OS I've ever met. |
| 08:46 | magnuse | hm, too bad |
| 08:46 | slef | morning all |
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| 08:57 | adnc | what do I need to do in order to get marc records that are not visible, like 880? |
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| 09:28 | slef | adnc: you mean MARC tags? I saw stuff about 880 in the xslt so I'd try searching in koha admin for system preferences about display |
| 09:28 | adnc | slef, yes |
| 09:28 | ok | |
| 09:28 | slef | there's something wrong with your email when my summariser decides that your disclaimer is the most interesting part of the message... |
| 09:29 | adnc: the other thing is to switch displays to XSLT if you haven't already done so (or ISBD if you prefer but I don't really get on with that) | |
| 09:30 | everyone, why is Normal view the default? | |
| 09:46 | magnuse | because its... normal? ;-) |
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| 09:56 | slef | magnuse: yeah, but what norm? |
| 09:56 | magnuse | hehe |
| 09:56 | is there anything else you would rather have as the default | |
| 09:56 | ? | |
| 09:58 | detailed marc view? | |
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| 10:28 | adnc | magnuse, do you know how to get 880 marc tag displayed for editing? |
| 10:32 | magnuse | adnc: go to Home � Administration � MARC Frameworks |
| 10:33 | click on "MARC structure" for the framework you want to change | |
| 10:33 | find 880, for example by searching for it | |
| 10:33 | click on Subfields | |
| 10:34 | rangi | wow |
| 10:34 | magnuse | click on Edit for the subfield you want to make visible |
| 10:34 | rangi | http://lclpioneer.wordpress.co[…]/25/koha-seminar/ |
| 10:35 | magnuse | adnc: click on "display more constraints" |
| 10:35 | adnc: choose another value for "hidden" | |
| 10:36 | adnc: click on the ? in the upper right corner to see what values mean what for that field | |
| 10:36 | rangi: heh, that should be interesting... | |
| 10:37 | rangi | the blurb at the bottom is pretty impressive, i dont think there is a single line that is true :) |
| 10:37 | adnc | the value hier is -6 in "hidden" |
| 10:37 | magnuse | yeah... |
| 10:38 | adnc | i'm on 3.2 and i cant see a ? mark |
| 10:38 | ahh i see | |
| 10:38 | magnuse | adnc: it should be right at the top, to the right of where your name is displayed |
| 10:38 | adnc | yes thanks |
| 10:39 | magnuse | it is context sensitivt help - pretty neat! |
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| 10:40 | adnc | what would be a good value for hidden for 880 mark. i only have one item where i would need it |
| 10:40 | magnuse | i think zero is sort of the default... |
| 10:41 | rangi: do you know if the votes in bugzilla are turned off by accident or on purpose? | |
| 10:42 | rangi | accident, but no one ever really used them in the old bugzilla anyway |
| 10:42 | i can turn them back on | |
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| 10:43 | mib_p2l259 | hi there :) |
| 10:48 | can anybody help me? | |
| 10:49 | i have some circulation rules that if the user doesn't check in the item pay 0.50€ for each overdue day | |
| 10:50 | with fines the user is blocked to renewal and place holds in items in the OPAC.. (which is the same of being suspend) | |
| 10:51 | after 16 days of fines i need to suspend the user for 30 days no matter how many items he has overdue. How I can set this? | |
| 11:04 | rangi | magnuse: i think voting is broken https://landfill.bugzilla.org/[…]#v40_feat_vot_ext |
| 11:05 | i followed that, and it threw an internal server error | |
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| 11:07 | magnuse | rangi: i followed one of the "vote" links on a rfc on the wiki and got this: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug&bug_id=3644 |
| 11:08 | mib_p2l259 | no one knows how to suspend a user for 30days after 15 days overdue? |
| 11:08 | magnuse | im not too fond of how that voting worked, so if we do not plan to use it i will remove the link from the rfc template |
| 11:09 | rangi | yeah, good idea |
| 11:10 | mib_p2l259: what version of koha? | |
| 11:10 | mib_p2l259 | 3.2.6 |
| 11:11 | rangi | you can do fines or suspension in circulation rules, you can't do both |
| 11:11 | mib_p2l259 | sorry 3.2.7 |
| 11:11 | rangi | so if wanted to you, you would set grace period of 15 days, and suspension of 30 |
| 11:12 | mib_p2l259 | the user has to pay the 15 days... |
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| 11:12 | rangi | right, like i said, you can do one or the other, not both |
| 11:13 | you cant acrue fines for 15 days, then suspend | |
| 11:13 | mib_p2l259 | i know that with the overdue alerts i can debarred (suspend) a user after 15 days... |
| 11:13 | rangi | you can debar them yes |
| 11:14 | but thats not for 30 days, thats forever, until you un debar them | |
| 11:14 | mib_p2l259 | that's a problem... :S |
| 11:14 | rangi | the code to do what you want doesnt exist in koha at present, you would have to write it, or get someone to write it for you |
| 11:14 | like everything in koha was at one point :) | |
| 11:16 | mib_p2l259 | do you know in which table of koha database the suspension are saved? |
| 11:17 | or which part of the code i have to change? | |
| 11:18 | perl is not a problem so i can do a script to only debar a patron for 30 days | |
| 11:18 | (lift the debar suspension after 30 days) | |
| 11:20 | it will be hard but i have to do it... | |
| 11:21 | sekjal | mib_p2l259: as I recall, the suspension for any given patron isn't stored in the database, but calculated based on the number of days overdue the material is, and the 'suspension in days' value in your circ rules |
| 11:22 | rangi | yep |
| 11:22 | suspension is different to debarred | |
| 11:22 | and its calculated | |
| 11:22 | debarred is a flag set, in the borrowers table | |
| 11:23 | mib_p2l259 | ok i will have to do a script that looks at issues and old_issues tables and lift the debar after 30 days |
| 11:24 | it's not a easy script but not impossible... | |
| 11:24 | rangi | setting a suspension rule in circ rules, will not trigger the debarring |
| 11:24 | you will need to do that in the overdue triggers area | |
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| 11:25 | rangi | i dont htink checking the issues and old_issues table will work |
| 11:25 | mib_p2l259 | yes i know... i already set that... after 16 days the user is blocked... |
| 11:25 | rangi | you would need to store when you debarred them |
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| 11:27 | mib_p2l259 | an user is debar only when the details of him are changed by someone on staff client |
| 11:28 | i already have a script to debar users that the expiration date as expired... | |
| 11:28 | rangi | if they are expired, they already cant issue |
| 11:29 | mib_p2l259 | but the first option never append... so if the user is debar the expiration date is expired of has had item in overdue |
| 11:29 | can't issue but can renew and place hold in the OPAC... | |
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| 11:32 | rangi | what if a staff member renews an item to a person who is debarred, now the date due is different, and instead of 30 days, they are debarred for longer, thats why i say you cant use the issues table |
| 11:33 | or you could just hope that that never happens :) | |
| 11:34 | jwagner | rangi, hi, but what are you doing awake at this hour??? :-) |
| 11:34 | rangi | its only 11.30 |
| 11:34 | mib_p2l259 | i will create a new table with two fields... the borrowernumber and date debarred... |
| 11:35 | jwagner | Thought it was later than that. Can't keep my timezones straight any more.... |
| 11:35 | rangi | mib_p2l259: yep, that would be more robust |
| 11:36 | mib_p2l259 | i have to change the overdue notice which I think is the script to create overdue notices and debar patron, to insert the data into that table |
| 11:36 | then i'll create the script which after 30 days of the date inserted debarred the user | |
| 11:37 | rangi | if you made it flexible |
| 11:37 | mib_p2l259 | undebarred... |
| 11:37 | rangi | so the time could be set |
| 11:37 | then it could go into koha | |
| 11:40 | mib_p2l259 | i have to discover where the flag debarred is set to 1 |
| 11:40 | in the overdue notices script | |
| 11:41 | if ( $overdue_rules->{"debarred$i"} ) { #action taken is debarring C4::Members::DebarMember($borrowernumber); $verbose and warn "debarring $borrowernumber $firstname $lastname\n"; } | |
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| 11:41 | mib_p2l259 | this is the piece of code that i have to change... or maybe i can change the function DebarMember |
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| 11:43 | conan | good morning everyone (or at least the ones who just wake up) |
| 11:43 | AmitG | heya conan |
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| 11:47 | rangi | night conan |
| 11:47 | * rangi | heads off to sleep |
| 11:48 | conan | bye rangi |
| 11:50 | We got a working koha 3.1 for one library here, which was here before I came, now we're preparing to implement koha 3.4 but for a set of libraries, that lead to rework several stuff, which includes at first a re-definition of frameworks | |
| 11:50 | So now I got this test implementation with the new frameworks defined which I can dump | |
| 11:51 | I'm wondering | |
| 11:51 | how should I make the move? | |
| 11:51 | I cannot just load the tables into the working implementation | |
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| 11:52 | conan | should I start with a clean installation and import table by table from the working one? |
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| 11:57 | hdl | conan: create a new db and inject your old 3.1 then import your frameworks, and do upgrade |
| 12:02 | conan | hum... that will leave the old frameworks hanging around, right? What about the ones that changed names and definition? (new marc stuff, or old stuff now ignored) |
| 12:08 | hdl | often when you use mysqldump table the table export DROP TABLE CREATE TABLE, |
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| 12:08 | hdl | so any previous data is dropped :P |
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| 12:15 | NateC | Morning #koha! |
| 12:22 | conan | hdl: I'm making the new frameworks dump with the option --no-create-info |
| 12:23 | maybe I didn't make myself clear, I'll try to explain better | |
| 12:23 | we have a set of old and new frameworks | |
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| 12:24 | conan | we have some new frameworks which don't exist on the old ones, we have old frameworks which will be dropped from new ones, and finally, we got old frameworks that exists on new ones, but have changed its definition |
| 12:25 | the last ones are the complicated ones | |
| 12:25 | marcelr | hi all: anyone know if koha-translate ml does not respond? |
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| 12:30 | slef | marcelr: I've seen emails from it but I forget when. Have you checked the web archive? |
| 12:30 | NateC: hello! | |
| 12:30 | marcelr | slef: did not see my mail from few mins ago |
| 12:30 | slef | marcelr: few mins? give it an hour. Email has no quality of service guarantee. |
| 12:31 | marcelr | we'll see |
| 12:31 | slef | hrm, web archive Last message date: Mon Apr 18 08:49:35 CEST 2011 |
| 12:32 | marcelr: can you see what your mailserver logged when trying to send? | |
| 12:32 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:32 | marcelr | slef: no cannot check that server |
| 12:32 | slef | Hi doctor oleonard! |
| 12:33 | marcelr: I'd give it an hour or two, then pester hdl or paul_p to check logs on lists.koha-community.org | |
| 12:34 | jwagner | The manual says the syspref itemcallnumber can take multiple fields, but how are they entered? comma separated? For example 082ab,099a |
| 12:35 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 12:35 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in Newton Grove, North Carolina is 24.9�C (8:37 AM EDT on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Steady). High Wind Warning in effect until 11 am EDT this morning... |
| 12:44 | oleonard | You don't need any more of that eh chris_n? |
| 12:47 | hdl | marcelr: koha-translate should work. |
| 12:47 | marcelr: it is not much active though | |
| 12:48 | chris_n | oleonard: its the circular high winds in particular that I watch out for |
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| 12:48 | chris_n | heya cait |
| 12:48 | cait | hi chris_n, hi #koha |
| 12:52 | oleonard | slef: did you see the message to the Koha list about connecting to Copac? I wondered if you knew anything about that |
| 12:53 | slef | oleonard: not yet. I don't remember but it sounds familiar so I've probably some notes. |
| 12:53 | biab | |
| 12:55 | marcelr | hdl: sent a message one hour ago; do not see it; and password reminder didn't seem to work too |
| 12:57 | hdl | Post by non-member to a members-only list |
| 12:57 | marcelr | hdl: should be a member |
| 12:57 | hdl | mmmm apparently it is not ;) |
| 12:58 | marcelr | ok i will try to new subscribe |
| 12:58 | hdl | maybe the adress used is not the one you used to subscribe |
| 12:59 | marcelr | hdl: that responded immediately; maybe became deactivated for bouncing or so? |
| 13:01 | hdl | could be |
| 13:02 | I will send your mail | |
| 13:02 | thanks for your report | |
| 13:03 | sent | |
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| 13:52 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6280] Invalid SQL being passed in circulation checkout <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6280> |
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| 14:00 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 14:00 | describe koha 3.4 in a tweet | |
| 14:01 | haiku also acceptable :P | |
| 14:01 | brendan_ | respectful |
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| 14:03 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 4951] print page doesn't close after print <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4951> |
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| 14:20 | rhcl | tree to fore |
| 14:20 | koha soars | |
| 14:21 | is chris_n gonna kick me? | |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | :) no, he was kicking himself ;) |
| 14:22 | the release proverb is really quite good: This feat is not the feat of one, it is the feat of many | |
| 14:22 | but it's not specific to this particular release | |
| 14:23 | rhcl | thirty four and out the door |
| 14:23 | wizzyrea | three four, out the door |
| 14:23 | faster, better, more to love | |
| 14:24 | the feat of many | |
| 14:24 | * wizzyrea | sighs |
| 14:24 | rhcl | I'm keeping my eye on those green dot nicks...gotta be carefull |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | i'm so bad at haiku |
| 14:25 | rhcl | Hey you |
| 14:25 | bad kaiku | |
| 14:25 | k three four | |
| 14:25 | what a roar | |
| 14:27 | * chris_n | is just kicking around today ;-) |
| 14:30 | rhcl | kick today |
| 14:30 | that I pray | |
| 14:30 | friday comes | |
| 14:30 | much more sun | |
| 14:31 | sekjal | faster and smarter / Koha's latest release shines / thanks to all of us |
| 14:31 | wizzyrea | sekjal++ that's a good one! |
| 14:32 | sekjal | free no matter what / can't stop the revolution / Koha's here to stay |
| 14:33 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 14:33 | that one actually does TWO things | |
| 14:33 | that I'm looking for | |
| 14:33 | 1. introduces a villain, and fits in a tweet D: | |
| 14:33 | :D | |
| 14:34 | this is why I ask you guys :) | |
| 14:35 | sekjal | as much as I wish / can't spend all day writing verse / back to bugfixes |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 14:36 | thanks for your time though :) | |
| 14:41 | Only one Koha / Accept no substitutions / open and free always | |
| 14:42 | sekjal | :) |
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| 15:17 | wizzyrea | now that we have import/exportable frameworks |
| 15:17 | do we need a "library" for them on the wiki? | |
| 15:17 | or how would that work? | |
| 15:18 | they export as files, so they'd need to be added as downloads to the wiki? | |
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| 15:27 | sekjal | wizzyrea: yeah, we'd need them to be downloads |
| 15:27 | or, we need a separate tool for storing shared Koha files | |
| 15:27 | I'd like to see a library for Matching Rules, as well | |
| 15:28 | and user-generated XSLT once that's available | |
| 15:29 | if we had a centralized Koha warehouse for things like this, we could add in a fetch link in the appropriate spots in the staff client, and download directly | |
| 15:30 | (once all those perky security measures were put in place, of course) | |
| 15:30 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:32 | sekjal | ooh, and once we had a fetch link, we could also look at a 'share' link to push directly from your Koha install to the warehouse |
| 15:33 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 15:33 | sekjal | and (Koha 4.0 stuff here) with the widgetized staff interface, we could essentially build a Koha "App Store" |
| 15:34 | browse for shared widgets, click "download", then go into admin and enable them | |
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 15:35 | * wizzyrea | gets a bit swoony about the possibilities of that |
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| 15:36 | sekjal | if we chose our warehouse software so that it could handle e-commerce, we could even let some developers charge for their widgets/plugins. |
| 15:36 | they'd have to compete with all of us doing free and open source work | |
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| 15:37 | sekjal | but perhaps it'd make some third-party companies more apt to create an integration tool |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | definitely |
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| 15:48 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6282] HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn syspref missing from *.pref file <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6282> |
| 16:04 | sekjal | okay, team, I've got to run some last minute errands for the house-buying. Back in time for my Support Desk shift |
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| 16:34 | * chris_n | has it in for guests today |
| 16:37 | slef | ??? |
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| 16:40 | JesseM | @roulette |
| 16:40 | huginn | JesseM: *click* |
| 16:40 | chris_n | slef: dodging tornadoes and other assorted nasty weather phenomena today... hence multiple bounces |
| 16:43 | slef | chris_n: oh yeah I saw 100+ dead :( |
| 16:43 | joetho | 202 |
| 16:43 | chris_n | slef: 200+ now :-( |
| 16:44 | slef: http://abcnews.go.com/US/torna[…]story?id=13474955 | |
| 16:44 | 4th video on left of page | |
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| 16:44 | slef | I'll believe you. bet it's some awkward-to-play flash video though |
| 16:44 | @wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET | |
| 16:44 | huginn | slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 18.7�C (5:46 PM BST on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:45 | slef | is it wrong to say it's looking good for the wedding picnics tomorrow? |
| 16:45 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 16:46 | huginn | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 20.0�C (12:35 PM EDT on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Rising). High Wind Warning in effect until 2 PM EDT this afternoon... |
| 16:46 | chris_n | its supposed to be nice here tomorrow too |
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| 16:49 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 16:49 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 17.7�C (11:51 AM CDT on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling). |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | oh hey |
| 16:49 | wahanui | hola, wizzyrea |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | it's nice out |
| 16:49 | hi wahanui ;) | |
| 16:50 | :( so sad about the tornadoes :( :( :( | |
| 16:50 | we've had an easy spring so far here | |
| 16:54 | (i'm not complaining, mind you) | |
| 16:54 | oy vey, how will libraries support *this* kind of thing: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab[…]s-push-pop-press/ | |
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| 17:21 | Brooke | kia ora |
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| 17:28 | chris_n | and we're back |
| 17:29 | Brooke | wb |
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| 17:32 | Brooke | 0/ |
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| 17:44 | Brooke | hooray everyone's back |
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| 18:03 | nengard | @later tell kf i was unable to do the video for ordering from a staged file because i came across bug 6283 |
| 18:03 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:05 | * Brooke | grumbles at the wiki still being horked. |
| 18:05 | nengard | Brooke, what's wrong with the wiki? |
| 18:05 | wizzyrea | categories I think |
| 18:05 | Brooke | the categories are only coming up with special types |
| 18:05 | and I would think that I still can't upload junk | |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | I just do [[Category:the_category]] |
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| 18:06 | magnuse | but sometimes it would be nice to be able to remove a category too... |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | indeed |
| 18:09 | Brooke | comes up on a keyword, which shall have to serve as good enough for gummint woik ftm |
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| 18:23 | * oleonard | brb |
| 18:23 | Brooke | wb |
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| 18:35 | Brooke | hmm |
| 18:36 | that paper that shoved us over for #koha appears to not be there. | |
| 18:37 | rangi | http://www.kohaditore.com/index.php |
| 18:37 | Brooke | mm hmm, but they haven't tweeted in dayses |
| 18:38 | rangi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha_Ditore |
| 18:38 | they had the name before we did | |
| 18:39 | Brooke | we gots more people, and hence can sit on them. |
| 18:39 | rangi | so im happy to let them use the hashtag |
| 18:39 | yeah, i think thats lame | |
| 18:39 | Brooke | You're booting about early, even for ye |
| 18:39 | rangi | after the shit kosovo went through, ill let them take whatever hashtag they want |
| 18:39 | naw, its 6.35am | |
| 18:39 | not that early | |
| 18:40 | magnuse | and the early bird gets the worm... |
| 18:41 | Brooke | "Good things happen early in the morning" |
| 18:45 | * Brooke | juggles flaming servers for everyone's amusement. |
| 18:46 | rangi | my koha haiku |
| 18:46 | the code is not sold | |
| 18:46 | it is a gift of freedom | |
| 18:46 | you can not own us | |
| 18:47 | wizzyrea | rangi++ sekjal++ |
| 18:48 | sekjal | rangi++ |
| 18:48 | Brooke | @karma rangi |
| 18:48 | huginn | Brooke: Karma for "rangi" has been increased 65 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 65. |
| 18:48 | Brooke | rangi++ |
| 18:49 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/pbO281SowT |
| 18:49 | Brooke | ooh sechsy |
| 18:50 | rangi | :) |
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| 18:51 | sekjal | hey, pianohacker! |
| 18:51 | wahanui | hmmm... pianohacker is working on a command-line tool for setting system preferences |
| 18:52 | rangi | better not be |
| 18:52 | cos thats already in 3.4.0 | |
| 18:52 | :) | |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | anyone else for a koha haiku? |
| 18:53 | * Brooke | can't bullshite under pressure! |
| 18:53 | wizzyrea | no pressure mate |
| 18:53 | just be honest :) | |
| 18:55 | oleonard | Little purple blob / Never understood that guy / Need a new mascot |
| 18:55 | wizzyrea | rofl |
| 18:55 | * oleonard | doesn't really think you should use that one |
| 18:57 | magnuse | perl poetry, anyone? ;-) |
| 19:00 | Brooke | live unfurling frond |
| 19:00 | world's open gift evolving | |
| 19:00 | leave more than you take | |
| 19:00 | oleonard's is better. | |
| 19:01 | oleonard | It's insincere, though, I don't actually think we need a mascot. |
| 19:03 | sekjal | SIP emulator / why must you be such a pain / can't we get along? |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 19:04 | brooke that's actually very good | |
| 19:04 | * Brooke | has the market on hot air cornered. |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 19:05 | nothing wrong with that | |
| 19:07 | oleonard | Drupal content load / Why won't you import data? / Done this twenty times |
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| 19:07 | oleonard | Whoops, wrong subject. |
| 19:09 | rangi | bbiab |
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| 19:15 | wizzyrea | hmm... maybe I"ll skip the bit about what is expected for 3.6 |
| 19:17 | sekjal | why won't my SIP server answer me?! yargh |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | is it on? |
| 19:17 | >.> | |
| 19:17 | chris_n | rangi: http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=15646 |
| 19:18 | sekjal | wizzyrea: ps aux | grep SIP shows three instances |
| 19:19 | chris_n | only 3 tornadoes this time |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | obvious question: you can't telnet directly to it? |
| 19:22 | sekjal | hmm, don't seem to be getting very far in that regard, no |
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| 19:29 | magnuse | koha started in nz so it can't be any good, right? |
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| 19:45 | rangi | yeah saw that chris_n |
| 19:46 | amazingly shortsighted of the natlib | |
| 19:46 | but means more libraries asking us about koha | |
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| 20:07 | * chris_n | heads home |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | ok so, get this |
| 20:09 | koha has 61 contributing developers this year alone | |
| 20:09 | in the last year, WordPress, that behemoth | |
| 20:09 | only had 16 | |
| 20:09 | at least according to ohloh | |
| 20:10 | so in Ohloh, we actually beat them in size of dev community | |
| 20:10 | we are in top 2% | |
| 20:10 | they in top 10% | |
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| 20:21 | wizzyrea | can anyone tell me if in the label creator, if scanning barcodes with a scanner with a carriage return function submits the form? |
| 20:21 | I don't have a scanner handy | |
| 20:22 | * cait | waves |
| 20:22 | rangi | hi cait |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | hi cait :D |
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| 20:33 | cait | jcamins: around? |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea: hi and me neither | |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | nuts. |
| 20:39 | cait | bug 5959 |
| 20:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5959 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add search link for analytics to serial records |
| 20:43 | sekjal | cait: jcamins usually works Saturday - Thursday, though he does have this habit of showing up in chat even on his off hours |
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| 21:07 | rangi | sekjal: you about? |
| 21:08 | sekjal | rangi: yes |
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| 21:09 | rangi | since you are officially QA manager now, we should have a chat sometime about how you want that to work |
| 21:10 | sekjal | ah, yes, the term has begun! |
| 21:11 | I need to pull in some of the canned searches in BZ | |
| 21:11 | rangi | http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ |
| 21:11 | top three links there | |
| 21:11 | sekjal | wonderful |
| 21:11 | rangi | for 3.4 i tracked the patches signed off |
| 21:12 | im wondering if you want to take over that | |
| 21:12 | and we'll make a new patch status, Passed QA | |
| 21:12 | so it goes | |
| 21:12 | needs signoff, signed off, passed qa, patch pushed | |
| 21:12 | ? | |
| 21:13 | so i watch the passed qa queue, you watch signed off | |
| 21:13 | sekjal | that sounds like the right workflow |
| 21:13 | rangi | the bug wranglers watch needs signoff and patch pushed |
| 21:13 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow <-- we could edit this too | |
| 21:13 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 236 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:14 | sekjal | once 'signed off' is clear, or otherwise stable, I'll probably take a swing at 'needs signoff' as well, to bring more things into the queue |
| 21:14 | rangi | awesome |
| 21:14 | that would be perfect | |
| 21:14 | there are only 3 in the signed off queue at the moment | |
| 21:15 | Passed QA has now been added as a patch status | |
| 21:15 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6265: Authority search in OPAC not exact <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]552a656a59e085f4f> / Bug 6001 : batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl doesn't crash anymore when GetMarcBiblio fails... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f9616685042a8dff5> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_6143' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-co |
| 21:16 | sekjal | is there a day of the week that works best, from your perspective, for me to process 'signed off' into 'passed qa'? |
| 21:16 | rangi | any day is fine |
| 21:16 | sekjal | not that I'm planning on only looking at this once a week for the entire release cycle, but during very hectic times, it may get that low |
| 21:17 | rangi | yep thats fair enough |
| 21:17 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow | |
| 21:17 | updated | |
| 21:18 | if the signed off queue backs up, i can always help you clearing it too | |
| 21:18 | sekjal | at this point, I'm more concerned with NEEDS_SIGNOFF getting clogged |
| 21:18 | rangi | yep |
| 21:18 | sekjal | over 100 right now |
| 21:19 | rangi | it was over 160 |
| 21:19 | its moving in the right direction | |
| 21:19 | sekjal | but, since SIGNED_OFF is pretty short, it should be easy to process |
| 21:19 | rangi | yep |
| 21:19 | sekjal | I should advance bug 5605, actually |
| 21:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5605 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, ASSIGNED, Add Support for SIP Fee Paid Message |
| 21:19 | rangi | i think what we might like to do |
| 21:19 | is do an email once a week | |
| 21:19 | highlighting bugs we would really like someone to signoff on | |
| 21:21 | sekjal | yes, sounds good |
| 21:22 | get awesome features moving forward, as well as patches for major/critical/blocker types | |
| 21:22 | rangi | *nod* |
| 21:22 | sekjal | also, enhancements/bugfixes that block other reports |
| 21:23 | rangi | yeah good idea |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | is there a reason that on additem you can't tab at all to the submit buttons? |
| 21:27 | I see the comment in there re: the phony submit | |
| 21:27 | rangi | im sure there is a reason |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | @quote get 123 |
| 21:27 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 21:27 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 21:27 | rangi | yeah that :) |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | that's probably why |
| 21:27 | :) | |
| 21:27 | apparently it drives my catalogers quite nuts | |
| 21:28 | sekjal | alrighty, I've got to get going; final walkthrough of the house before we sign the papers tomorrow! |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | if they accidentally tab too far, on a bib with lots of items it takes them all the way to the top |
| 21:28 | later sekjal | |
| 21:28 | and lord they have to scroll aallllll the way to the bottom | |
| 21:28 | rangi | cya sekjal |
| 21:28 | oh noes | |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | i kno rite |
| 21:28 | sekjal | g'night, wizzyrea and rangi! |
| 21:28 | goodnight, #koha | |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | gl with the house :) |
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| 21:46 | wizzyrea | graphics magick? |
| 21:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_6033' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dde237aff024e15a9> / Bug 6033 : Follow up fix for bug that crept in with conversion to template toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3aabe53ed1bdd7951> |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | graphicsMagick? |
| 21:46 | wahanui | somebody said graphicsMagick was avaliable in package form for the following Operating Systems: Version 1.1.11 in Lenny, 1.3.12 in Squeeze, 1.3.5 in Sid and Ubuntu Lucid. Regarding the update message, all Koha functions still work even if you only have Version 1.1.11. |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | that's what I thought. |
| 21:47 | magnuse | now that's helpful :-) |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | i try to keep the things people ask over and over in wahanui :P |
| 21:48 | magnuse | good plan! |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | documentation? |
| 21:48 | wahanui | documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | searching? |
| 21:48 | searching faq? | |
| 21:48 | wahanui | searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | version control using git? |
| 21:48 | wahanui | i think version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | sign off on patches? |
| 21:48 | ah I should add that one :) | |
| 21:49 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow that one too |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | sign off on patches is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
| 21:49 | patch workflow is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow | |
| 21:49 | sign off on patches? | |
| 21:49 | wahanui | sign off on patches is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | patch workflow? |
| 21:49 | wahanui | well, patch workflow is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]nt-patch_Workflow |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | jquery library? |
| 21:49 | wahanui | rumour has it jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | report library? |
| 21:50 | report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library | |
| 21:50 | report library? | |
| 21:50 | wahanui | well, report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | Backing up koha is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Backing_up_Koha |
| 21:50 | mysqldump library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Backing_up_Koha | |
| 21:51 | backing up koha? | |
| 21:51 | wahanui | backing up koha is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Backing_up_Koha |
| 21:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #236: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/236/ |
| 21:55 | * Nicole C. Engard: Follow Up for Bug 6143: New numSearchRSSResults preferences | |
| 21:55 | * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 6001 : batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl doesn't crash anymore when GetMarcBiblio fails. Unprocessed biblionumbers are displayed at the end of the execution instead. | |
| 21:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6143 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, NEW, New feature: capability to limit the RSS results |
| 21:55 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 6265: Authority search in OPAC not exact |
| 21:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6001 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl crashes when GetMarcBiblio fails. |
| 21:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6265 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Search for records linked to an authority not exact in OPAC | |
| 21:55 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 237 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 22:36 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #237: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/237/ |
| 22:36 | Chris Cormack: Bug 6033 : Follow up fix for bug that crept in with conversion to template toolkit | |
| 22:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6033 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, srdjan, ASSIGNED, Add Filters to SQL Saved Reports |
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| 23:18 | druthb | o/ |
| 23:18 | rangi | hi druthb |
| 23:19 | druthb | hiya, rangi. :) |
| 23:21 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 23:22 | druthb | hi, magnus! :D |
| 23:22 | magnuse | hiya druthb |
| 23:25 | * magnuse | had better try and forget about that circ simulation script for a while and get some sleep... |
| 23:25 | magnuse | good night or other time of the day, #koha! |
| 23:25 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
| 23:26 | brendan_ | @wunder 93109 |
| 23:26 | huginn | brendan_: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 26.9�C (4:28 PM PDT on April 28, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect from 3 PM this afternoon to 5 am PDT Saturday... |
| 23:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 238 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 23:47 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing a template error <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6650b2c43ed6b9e8b> / Rewriting the valid templates test to test template toolkit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8ccb598929428f2cd> |
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