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| 02:38 | druthb | o/ |
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| 04:33 | sunb | i just checked koha 3.4 |
| 04:34 | i was waiting for this version as it will support adding bound volumes | |
| 04:34 | but release does not give any details of it does this version support adding bound volumes into database | |
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| 04:38 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 04:41 | sunb | hi koustubha |
| 04:42 | i was waiting for koha 3.4 to check whether it allows to add bound volumes | |
| 04:42 | do u have any idea | |
| 04:47 | kmkale | no sunb |
| 05:02 | rangi | sunb: do you catalogue those with analytic records? |
| 05:03 | sunb | we havent yet done that |
| 05:03 | rangi | if you do, you can catalogue them that way in koha |
| 05:04 | sunb | ok but i was under impression that with 3.4 it will allow to club together loose issues from serials and then bound them and give accession number |
| 05:04 | rangi | sure |
| 05:04 | you of course have to do that manually, but you can link them together using the record control number | |
| 05:05 | where did you get the impression it would bind for you? | |
| 05:06 | sunb | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ding_loose_issues |
| 05:06 | rangi | yep, no one wrote that, if it had been worked on it would have a bugnumber attached |
| 05:08 | sunb | is there any documentation available for giving link to record number and adding bound volumes in analytical entry |
| 05:08 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5959 |
| 05:08 | huginn | 04Bug 5959: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Add search link for analytics to serial records |
| 05:11 | rangi | you probably want to ask katrin |
| 05:12 | or email the koha-devel list | |
| 05:24 | kmkale | sunb = Sunita Barve? |
| 05:25 | rangi | there is this also |
| 05:25 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5528 | |
| 05:25 | huginn | 04Bug 5528: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Analytical records support |
| 05:25 | rangi | but it wasnt tested/signed off so isn't in 3.4.0 |
| 05:25 | well it was tested, and had some suggestions made, but those werent finished off, so it missed the feature freeze | |
| 05:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 226 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 05:29 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 2941 Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7d4aa93960fea567f> |
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| 06:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #226: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/226/ |
| 06:09 | Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 2941 Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated | |
| 06:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. |
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| 06:21 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 07:05 | rangi | hi cait |
| 07:06 | do you eat hot cross buns on easter friday in germany? | |
| 07:06 | because im still full from the ones i ate last night :) | |
| 07:07 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_cross_bun | |
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| 07:57 | rangi | wb cait |
| 08:00 | cait | hi rangi |
| 08:01 | hm, we have some easter pastries and buns, but I don't know those | |
| 08:04 | rangi: I used to bake easter lamps for my family, looking like these: http://www.hagenhoffmann.de/so[…]ildosterlamm2.jpg | |
| 08:04 | lambs... not lamps | |
| 08:08 | rangi | mm lamb |
| 08:08 | kmkale | :) |
| 08:09 | cait | :) |
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| 10:22 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 10:22 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.5�C (12:20 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:57 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 10:57 | druthb | good day, #koha. |
| 11:04 | cait | hi druthb :) |
| 11:21 | kmkale | hi druthb :) |
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| 14:27 | jcamins_away | Anyone here know about OPAC item suppression? |
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| 15:54 | * jcamins_away | waves to cait |
| 15:54 | * cait | waves back |
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| 17:03 | druthb | o/ |
| 17:05 | jcamins_away | Hello. |
| 17:07 | * jcamins_away | continues his battle with data corruption. |
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| 18:32 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:32 | jcamins_away | Hi cait. |
| 18:32 | cait | hi jcamins_away :) |
| 18:32 | have you baked something for easter? | |
| 18:33 | jcamins_away | cait: I'm Jewish. ;) |
| 18:33 | cait | oh |
| 18:33 | :) | |
| 18:34 | jcamins_away | Did you do any baking for Easter? |
| 18:34 | cait | no |
| 18:34 | when I was living in Reutlingen I did | |
| 18:35 | when I had a real oven! not this small something | |
| 18:35 | :) | |
| 18:35 | so nothing special on the menu today? you always produce so yummy sounding things | |
| 18:37 | jcamins_away | I might bake something, even though it's Passover. |
| 18:38 | cait | Passover? |
| 18:38 | jcamins_away | = Passah in German |
| 18:39 | = пасха еврейская in Russian. | |
| 18:39 | = פסח in Hebrew | |
| 18:40 | = Pâque in French | |
| 18:40 | * jcamins_away | tries to think of the word in other languages |
| 18:41 | cait | ah |
| 18:41 | pessach | |
| 18:42 | jcamins_away | Yup. :) |
| 18:42 | cait | now that you remind me - the hfjs had closed all last week |
| 18:45 | jcamins_away | I'm not surprised. |
| 18:45 | cait | yep |
| 18:52 | I thought you ere asking about opac suppression? | |
| 18:52 | saw... | |
| 18:52 | jcamins_away | I was, but I figured it out. |
| 18:53 | cait | ok |
| 18:54 | opacsuppression or the new feature? | |
| 18:54 | jcamins_away | Opacsuppression. |
| 18:55 | Okay, I should eat some lunch now. | |
| 18:55 | Back in a few. | |
| 18:55 | cait | ok |
| 18:55 | same here - but dinner | |
| 18:55 | :) | |
| 19:01 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 19:02 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 19:02 | magnuse | hiya cait |
| 19:02 | * magnuse | is just dropping by |
| 19:03 | cait | how is holidays? |
| 19:04 | magnuse | very nice - nice ad quiet |
| 19:04 | and had some lovely weather today - sun and warmth and no wind! | |
| 19:04 | cait | :) |
| 19:04 | magnuse | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 19:04 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0�C (8:50 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:04 | cait | very sunny here too |
| 19:04 | magnuse | and you? |
| 19:04 | cait | we need some rain though |
| 19:04 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 19:04 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0�C (9:00 PM CEST on April 23, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:04 | magnuse | oh wow! |
| 19:05 | cait | yep |
| 19:05 | very warm april | |
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| 19:06 | * cait | waves |
| 19:06 | magnuse | o/ |
| 19:07 | we could use some of that heat - got a taste of it today :-) | |
| 19:08 | hm, i find myself not quite understanding the translations - in Pootle nb-NO says 100% done for the 3.4 opac, but there are definitely strings in the 3.4 opac that are not translated... | |
| 19:09 | cait | yes |
| 19:09 | I think the files are probably not updated for TT | |
| 19:09 | compare to the German opac file | |
| 19:10 | magnuse | you have 100% for opac, 60 for staff and 99 for sysprefs? |
| 19:11 | which is weird too - the staff translation for nb-NO has not been touched in a long while and it's at 75%, way more than your german? | |
| 19:11 | cait | hm |
| 19:11 | magnuse | are you saying nb-NO are not updated for TT, or all of the langauages? |
| 19:11 | cait | not sure about that |
| 19:12 | I uploaded the opac file myself | |
| 19:13 | hm looks like that is an updated file | |
| 19:13 | not sure if frederic only completed German | |
| 19:14 | hm | |
| 19:14 | my staff file is a lot bigger than yours | |
| 19:14 | magnuse | hm, i'll bug him about it after the holidays |
| 19:14 | ah, that would explain the lower percentage | |
| 19:15 | you generated .po files yourself ad uploaded to pootle? | |
| 19:15 | cait | I did a lot of translation testing and rangi fixed a lot of things |
| 19:16 | to test it right I updated the files a lot and did a complete translation of opac | |
| 19:16 | to check if everything gets translated | |
| 19:16 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 19:16 | :-) | |
| 19:17 | druthb | cait++ |
| 19:17 | cait | args :) |
| 19:17 | @karma cait | |
| 19:17 | huginn | cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 91 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 91. |
| 19:18 | cait | you know, that's dangerous what you are doing there |
| 19:18 | druthb | what...giving you credit for being awesome? |
| 19:19 | magnuse | ye |
| 19:19 | yeah, give credit where credit is due, i say! | |
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| 19:21 | * cait | hides and takes the cookies with her |
| 19:21 | druthb1 | hee hee |
| 19:22 | magnuse | hey druthb you got the replication working?!? ;-) |
| 19:24 | cait | I hope she will share the secret with us |
| 19:24 | I could make great use of replicates right now | |
| 19:25 | * magnuse | has the image of the sorcerers apprentice from fantasia in his minds eye |
| 19:25 | cait | hm |
| 19:25 | I thoroughly cleaned this place today | |
| 19:25 | no water buckets! | |
| 19:26 | magnuse | yay! |
| 19:27 | druthb left #koha | |
| 19:29 | druthb1 | I thought I did, maybe, but apparently not. |
| 19:29 | cait | oh... |
| 19:29 | druthb1 is now known as druthb | |
| 19:36 | * magnuse | is off to watch Lewis - english crime investigations at it's best ;-) |
| 19:36 | magnuse | sa ya later folks! |
| 19:36 | s/sa/see/ | |
| 19:36 | cait | cya |
| 19:36 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
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| 19:52 | * jcamins_away | curses |
| 19:53 | curses more vigorously | |
| 19:54 | curses with shocking creativity | |
| 19:56 | * druthb1 | puts her hands over cait's ears. |
| 19:56 | druthb1 is now known as druthb | |
| 19:57 | cait | huh? |
| 19:57 | * cait | looks at your moving lips confusedly |
| 19:58 | jcamins_away | My reindex went through 241000 of 120593 records, then threw an error. |
| 19:59 | druthb | eeeewwww |
| 20:00 | * cait | tries to read lips |
| 20:06 | jcamins_away | Oh, mystery solved. |
| 20:06 | druthb | ? |
| 20:06 | jcamins_away | hardlinks. |
| 20:06 | Zebra read both exported_records files. | |
| 20:07 | Even though they were identical. | |
| 20:07 | druthb | oh |
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| 20:17 | jcamins_away | GRS-1-- |
| 20:23 | * cait | can't follow |
| 20:23 | cait | cookie? |
| 20:24 | jcamins_away | Please! |
| 20:24 | druthb | making_jcamins_giggle++ |
| 20:25 | * cait | sends jcamins a cookie |
| 20:25 | jcamins_away | cait++ # for cookies |
| 20:25 | druthb++ # for saving me lots of puzzling | |
| 20:27 | druthb | :) |
| 20:28 | cait | druthb++ |
| 20:28 | * druthb | blushes |
| 20:28 | cait | I think she beats cookies |
| 20:28 | * jcamins_away | might need to make cookies, even though it's Passover. |
| 20:30 | * druthb | blushes and hides. |
| 20:30 | jcamins_away | Uhhh... where did the delete_records_without_items script come from? |
| 20:30 | Did I write that? | |
| 20:30 | druthb | possibly I did; I've used it several places. |
| 20:31 | cait | druthb: don't say you are adapting my bad habits ;) |
| 20:31 | druthb | I won't say it, then. |
| 20:32 | jcamins_away: looking at the first few lines should show--unless you copied one of my scripts for its' DNA | |
| 20:32 | jcamins_away | That's why I'm confused... it's copyright ByWater, but it doesn't have your name, and it does have perldoc. |
| 20:32 | druthb | then it's not me. |
| 20:33 | jcamins_away | Probably not sekjal, either, based on the perldoc. |
| 20:33 | cait | perldoc? |
| 20:34 | jcamins_away | You know, inline documentation. |
| 20:35 | * druthb | is REAL bad about not doing good docs. |
| 20:37 | * jcamins_away | resists the urge to just try the MySQL-only solution. |
| 20:37 | jcamins_away | SQL is more fun that Perl. |
| 20:37 | druthb | to delete empty bibs? |
| 20:38 | jcamins_away | No, that was an aside. |
| 20:38 | druthb | oh, okay. |
| 20:38 | 'bout to say--if you are gonna reindex anyway, the SQL answer works Just Fine. | |
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| 20:40 | jcamins_away | Oh, for crying out loud! |
| 20:40 | "Error: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /home/jcamins/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 450." | |
| 20:42 | * druthb | puts on the hazmat suit, and hands a spare to jcamins_away. |
| 20:43 | druthb | if you're gonna be looking at Search.pm.... |
| 20:43 | cait | lol |
| 20:44 | jcamins_away | CURSE YOU, ZEBRA!!! |
| 20:45 | * jcamins_away | reindexes again. |
| 20:50 | * druthb | starts her Data Crunching playlist on iTunes. |
| 20:50 | * jcamins_away | decides to print out a picture of a Zebra and fling darts at it. |
| 20:50 | jcamins_away | Or possibly burn it in effigy. |
| 20:51 | I appreciate that most of our problems stem from poor configuration, but the absolute lack of useful diagnostic information, and the tendency to crash and burn, is definitely a fundamental design flaw. | |
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| 20:58 | druthb | hi, space_librarian! :D |
| 20:59 | cait | hi space_librarian |
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| 21:10 | jcamins_away | Does anyone happen to know if information about frameworks is stored anywhere other than marc_subfield_structure and marc_tag_structure? |
| 21:11 | And biblio_framework. | |
| 21:12 | cait | hm |
| 21:12 | seems a complete list tome | |
| 21:12 | what are you missing? | |
| 21:12 | jcamins_away | I haven't tried it yet. |
| 21:12 | Just thought I'd check. | |
| 21:12 | In case someone knew something I didn't. | |
| 21:12 | cait | should be all |
| 21:16 | hm | |
| 21:17 | jcamins_away | Well, that seems to work. |
| 21:19 | cait | I truncate them all when I load german frameworks |
| 21:19 | works perfectly | |
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| 21:25 | * druthb | hands cait the Velcro |
| 21:25 | cait | thx :) |
| 21:30 | jcamins_away | Okay, it has reindexed. |
| 21:30 | Except it's not done. | |
| 21:31 | Grr. | |
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| 21:34 | jcamins_away | Well, it's doing something. |
| 21:34 | That's progress. | |
| 21:34 | Apparently disabling shadow indexing doesn't actually disable shadow indexing. | |
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| 21:35 | pianohacker | Hello |
| 21:36 | jcamins_away | Hello. |
| 21:36 | Could updating the register from the shadow take any longer? | |
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| 21:38 | jcamins_away | It's done! |
| 21:39 | pianohacker: how's your semester going? | |
| 21:39 | cait | hi pianohacker :) |
| 21:39 | * druthb | waves to pianohacker. |
| 21:39 | pianohacker | Very busy, as it's finally ending |
| 21:39 | Hi cait, druthb | |
| 21:39 | Lots of tests and projects and papers due | |
| 21:39 | But soon it will be over, glory hallelujah | |
| 21:40 | How are you guys? | |
| 21:40 | jcamins_away | :) |
| 21:40 | * jcamins_away | has five papers to write, though only one is due next week. |
| 21:41 | jcamins_away | (so I can sympathize) |
| 21:43 | cait | only a presentation |
| 21:44 | * cait | imagines having to write 5 papers and shuders |
| 21:47 | * druthb | is working on two new Koha libraries, plus one more for mid-week...and a presentation that's a bit more than a week away. |
| 21:49 | * jcamins_away | swears off of JOIN USING () |
| 21:50 | cait | jcamins: I am a little worried about you |
| 21:50 | jcamins_away | cait: why? |
| 21:51 | cait | lots of -- and swearing and cursing today |
| 21:51 | * jcamins_away | is not having a very good day. |
| 21:51 | jcamins_away | He has been trying to reindex a 120k-record install for 10 hours. |
| 21:52 | cait | hmwaht about taking a break, rethink your problem and bake cookies? ;) |
| 21:52 | jcamins_away | Well, more, if you count the fact that I spent four hours on it yesterday, and I have tried reindexing it every day since Tuesday. |
| 21:53 | pianohacker | What's wrong with it? |
| 21:53 | jcamins_away | pianohacker: a whole slew of things. |
| 21:54 | First there were 8 corrupted records. | |
| 21:54 | Then the system stopped booting. | |
| 21:55 | Then the indexer refused to behave. | |
| 21:55 | pianohacker | Oi. How did they get corrupted? |
| 21:55 | well, zebraidx is always a pain | |
| 21:55 | jcamins_away | Unfortunately, I have no idea. |
| 21:56 | Well, two of them were caused by UTF-8 in the call numbers. | |
| 21:56 | The other 6? No idea. | |
| 21:57 | pianohacker | Unicode call numbers? That's bizarre |
| 21:58 | jcamins_away | Yep. |
| 21:58 | cait | why? |
| 21:58 | jcamins_away | I think they copy-pasted the title into the call number field. |
| 21:58 | * cait | have seen umlauts in callnumbers a lot |
| 21:58 | cait | has.. |
| 21:59 | pianohacker | I think they're usually restricted to ASCII, especially in the states, though Ü makes sense in germany |
| 22:00 | cait | jcamins: but I think koha can handle that - utf-8 in callnumbers? |
| 22:02 | jcamins_away | cait: It's supposed to be able to. |
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