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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:02 | rangi | yes filter is broken for me too |
| 00:02 | will look into the code tha generates it now | |
| 00:04 | cait | hm, seems both use a function from c4? |
| 00:05 | rangi | my %supplierlist = GetBooksellersWithLateOrders($delay); |
| 00:05 | i thik its only getting ones that do have late orders? | |
| 00:06 | cait | hm |
| 00:06 | but if it does that | |
| 00:06 | it dos not mach | |
| 00:06 | if a search with delay 0 will bring up orders - it shoudl bring up the vendortoo? | |
| 00:06 | fill the list I mean with the vendors in my search results | |
| 00:06 | perhaps it's one day off? | |
| 00:07 | rangi | could be lemme check the actual code |
| 00:09 | cait | ok - the list in serials will only work when you have a vendor with a missing or late issue |
| 00:09 | so only acq remains | |
| 00:09 | rangi | ELECT DISTINCT aqbasket.booksellerid, aqbooksellers.name FROM aqorders LEFT JOIN aqbasket ON aqorders.basketno=aqbasket.basketno LEFT JOIN aqbooksellers ON aqbasket.booksellerid = aqbooksellers.id |
| 00:09 | WHERE (closdate < DATE_SUB(CURDATE( ),INTERVAEL $delay DAY) AND (datereceived = '' OR datereceived IS NULL)) | |
| 00:10 | i hate that query | |
| 00:10 | but thats what it does currently | |
| 00:10 | cait | ugh |
| 00:10 | rangi | so you need to have closed an order |
| 00:10 | try that | |
| 00:10 | also INTERVAEL | |
| 00:10 | cait | I have to closed baskets? |
| 00:10 | rangi | thats not gonna work |
| 00:10 | cait | s/to/2 |
| 00:10 | rangi | ahh that was a paste ting |
| 00:10 | yeah, try closing one | |
| 00:11 | see if that makes it show up | |
| 00:11 | cait | what do you mean by closing? |
| 00:11 | my baskets are closed | |
| 00:11 | rangi | hmm |
| 00:11 | cait | hm... perhaps close the group too? |
| 00:11 | rangi | actually in the db |
| 00:11 | can you change the closedate to last year | |
| 00:11 | cait | but that would mean that libraries leaving them open cannever use late orders? |
| 00:12 | rangi | yes, it seems like a bug to me |
| 00:12 | but not a new one i dont think | |
| 00:13 | definitely nice to fix, maybe for 3.4.1 | |
| 00:13 | cait | hm k |
| 00:15 | ok | |
| 00:15 | I closed the basket after midnight | |
| 00:15 | rangi | ahh yeah that would do it |
| 00:15 | cait | created it before, but basket groups was almost the last thing I tested |
| 00:15 | rangi | you should be abble to change it in the db |
| 00:16 | cait | yep. that's it |
| 00:16 | rangi | update table aqbasket set closedate = '2010-10-10'; |
| 00:16 | cool | |
| 00:16 | lemme check the serials now | |
| 00:16 | cait | no, that's ok too - see above |
| 00:16 | it requires late or missing issues | |
| 00:16 | :) | |
| 00:16 | so both mysteries are solved | |
| 00:16 | rangi | ah ha |
| 00:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #221: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/221/ |
| 00:16 | Chris Cormack: Fixing typo in the release notes | |
| 00:16 | rangi | yay |
| 00:17 | cait | oh |
| 00:17 | ok | |
| 00:17 | a last one | |
| 00:17 | my budget table has vanished again | |
| 00:18 | rangi | thats weird alright |
| 00:18 | cait | and can't edit or delete my funds |
| 00:18 | I am not superlibrarian but have all acq permissions | |
| 00:18 | and I am not kohaadmin | |
| 00:19 | ok | |
| 00:19 | kohaadmin can see the table and edit the funds | |
| 00:20 | rangi | i think its to do with the owner? |
| 00:20 | cait | hm, but they are not owned |
| 00:20 | not restricted in any way | |
| 00:21 | rangi | hmm made by your superlibrarian or made by kohaadmin? |
| 00:21 | cait | checking next |
| 00:22 | superlibraian permission gives me the edit links for funds but the table is still missing | |
| 00:23 | I changed the budget_owner id to 1 | |
| 00:24 | my admin user, didn't change | |
| 00:25 | rangi | hmmm |
| 00:25 | i have a suspiciion | |
| 00:26 | hmm no thats wrong | |
| 00:27 | table is showing for me | |
| 00:28 | cait | hm. |
| 00:29 | I have one active budget and 2 funds - no restriction no owner and no library | |
| 00:30 | rangi | confusing |
| 00:30 | cait | hm ok |
| 00:31 | it seems you have to select a library | |
| 00:31 | that seems wrong to me when the budget is not restricted to the library | |
| 00:32 | it's ok | |
| 00:32 | I will think more about it - but I can mak ethem show up | |
| 00:33 | rangi | right |
| 00:35 | cait | when do you commit the trnaslations? |
| 00:37 | rangi | lemme check if frederic has pushed them up |
| 00:38 | nope not yet | |
| 00:38 | cait | thinking about uploading my opac file |
| 00:39 | rangi | id do it |
| 00:39 | he hasnt committed them to to a branch yet for me to pull | |
| 00:39 | so if you do that, they should be in there | |
| 00:40 | cait | hm ok, feeling brave |
| 00:43 | merge working? | |
| 00:44 | or better overwrite | |
| 00:46 | rangi | overwrite i think |
| 00:47 | cait | ... overwriting |
| 00:49 | hm | |
| 00:49 | looks like it worked | |
| 00:49 | :) | |
| 00:49 | time to brush teeth and get ready to sleep | |
| 00:50 | rangi | sleep well, thanks for all your help |
| 00:53 | druthb | cait++ |
| 00:53 | cait | thx for all your work rangi |
| 00:53 | rangi++ | |
| 00:53 | druthb | rangi++ |
| 00:53 | cait | and even more because you taught me most things! |
| 00:59 | rangi? | |
| 00:59 | wahanui | rangi is, like, a proud Māori whose sense of humour matches his prowess in coding |
| 01:01 | rangi | who did tha? |
| 01:01 | t | |
| 01:02 | cait | not me |
| 01:02 | * wizzyrea_away | is not it |
| 01:02 | cait | prowess is not in my active vocabulary |
| 01:02 | rangi | heh |
| 01:02 | cait | nor in the inactive |
| 01:03 | given that... I have a suspicion | |
| 01:04 | wizzyrea? | |
| 01:04 | wahanui | wizzyrea is, like, a wonderful mother, colleague, and friend. or a koha poet |
| 01:04 | cait | :) |
| 01:04 | * wizzyrea_away | looks vaguely in the direction of DC |
| 01:04 | wizzyrea_away | i'm honored that someone thought it apt to make that my description |
| 01:05 | as any parent does, I do the best I can :P | |
| 01:15 | druthb | :) |
| 01:15 | rangi, I suspect Brooke_ | |
| 01:16 | Certainly I suspect her on my description. | |
| 01:16 | druthb? | |
| 01:16 | wahanui | you are one fine number in a skirt. |
| 01:16 | wizzyrea_away | whoever it was speaks only truth ;) |
| 01:17 | druthb | I am *soooo* torn over what to wear to KUDOS, wizzy.. sheesh. |
| 01:18 | cait | one fine number sounds def like Brooke_ |
| 01:18 | brendan_ left #koha | |
| 01:18 | cait | and prowess too |
| 01:20 | druthb | hm. |
| 01:20 | kf? | |
| 01:20 | wahanui | well, kf is the kind of person that will brighten everyone's day. |
| 01:20 | druthb | cait? |
| 01:20 | wahanui | i heard cait was a competent programmer AND really sweet. |
| 01:20 | cait | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 01:20 | wahanui | :) |
| 01:20 | cait | he only says that because I feed him so many cookies :) |
| 01:21 | druthb | brendan_? |
| 01:21 | wahanui | brendan_ is a big fan of koha or the best boss evar! |
| 01:21 | druthb | tee hee |
| 01:22 | cait | sekjal? |
| 01:22 | wahanui | sekjal is a wonderful geek. |
| 01:22 | rangi | yeah |
| 01:22 | druthb | :D |
| 01:22 | rangi | cait: are you still brushing your teeth??? |
| 01:22 | cait | no |
| 01:23 | rangi | sleep! |
| 01:23 | cait | closing all those windows on my computer |
| 01:23 | rangi | :) |
| 01:23 | gmcharlt | cait++ |
| 01:23 | brendan_ joined #koha | |
| 01:24 | druthb | wahanui: Brooke_? |
| 01:24 | wahanui | Brooke_ is the best dinner companion a girl could want. |
| 01:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 222 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:32 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping version number for release <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e0b8ff73dd60943e> |
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| 01:35 | druthb | rangi, congratulations. :) |
| 01:35 | cait1 | ? |
| 01:35 | rangi | still getting ready |
| 01:35 | * cait1 | is excited |
| 01:35 | rangi | but yeah im at the time to stop poking at it point |
| 01:38 | cait left #koha | |
| 01:39 | * druthb | waves |
| 01:39 | druthb left #koha | |
| 01:52 | * cait1 | waves |
| 01:53 | cait1 | really tired now |
| 01:53 | bye rangi | |
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| 02:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #222: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/222/ |
| 02:08 | Chris Cormack: Bumping version number for release | |
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| 02:13 | gmcharlt | jenkins is happy |
| 02:15 | rangi | yep tis a good sign |
| 02:24 | http://pastebin.com/1URw7Tvs | |
| 02:24 | pretty much ready to go, just need the .po files | |
| 02:26 | gmcharlt | rangi: want typo corrections for the release notes? |
| 02:26 | rangi | yes please |
| 02:26 | gmcharlt | s/one off/one-off/ |
| 02:27 | s/Notify of fines owing/Notification of fines owed/ | |
| 02:28 | s/when an staff/when a staff/ | |
| 02:28 | ... | |
| 02:28 | * brendan_ | will look it over too :) |
| 02:28 | gmcharlt | would you rather I just sent a patch? :) |
| 02:28 | rangi | gmcharlt: actutaly yeah :-) |
| 02:28 | thanks brendan_ | |
| 02:28 | gmcharlt | sec |
| 02:31 | brendan_ | line 90 - (a space is needed here -->) phone,address |
| 02:32 | gmcharlt | got it |
| 02:33 | brendan_ | same thing here line 113 --> the'My Summary' |
| 02:33 | gmcharlt | got it |
| 02:33 | brendan_ | heh should we comment on the differences between 's' and 'z' ;) |
| 02:34 | gmcharlt | let's not be ugly Americans now ;) |
| 02:34 | brendan_ | "SQL is formatted much more nicely when viewing a report" line 129 |
| 02:34 | maybe something else besides much more | |
| 02:35 | how about SQL formatting improvements when viewing a report? | |
| 02:35 | gmcharlt | sounds good |
| 02:38 | brendan_ | I like that it reads D Ruth now :) |
| 02:38 | gmcharlt | :) |
| 02:38 | brendan_ | line 399 --> please send patch against |
| 02:38 | maybe an 'a' in there | |
| 02:38 | gmcharlt | got it |
| 02:39 | brendan_ | Looks good :) |
| 02:40 | gmcharlt | rangi: patch sent |
| 02:40 | rangi | thanks |
| 02:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 223 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:44 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 02:45 | rangi | if this patch breaks it ... :) |
| 02:45 | gmcharlt | jenkins_koha: I don't think you need be *that* worried about changes to the release notes. I promise I didn't slip in any blockers |
| 02:45 | jenkins_koha | gmcharlt did you mean me? Unknown command 'I' |
| 02:45 | Use !jenkinshelp to get help! | |
| 02:45 | wizzyrea_away | you didnt delete any Data::Dumper's? |
| 02:45 | rangi | heh |
| 02:45 | gmcharlt | you wound me, madam |
| 02:45 | ;) | |
| 02:46 | wizzyrea_away | :) |
| 02:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: textual improvements to release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3827c5139e0c82e53> |
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| 03:06 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 03:06 | rangi | hi kmkale |
| 03:09 | kmkale | hi rangi |
| 03:09 | holiday today? | |
| 03:10 | rangi | technically :) |
| 03:10 | kmkale | yep. same here ;) |
| 03:14 | rangi: is there some material I can read about CAS with koha? | |
| 03:15 | I have got a CAS server running. | |
| 03:15 | rangi | probably best to talk to the biblibre people |
| 03:15 | kmkale | but when I try koha cas auth I get CAS is unavailable |
| 03:18 | rangi | ive never tried it |
| 03:20 | kmkale | inconsistent behaviour. Now I am getting Sorry, the CAS login failed. but in the cas debug log I can see the auth was successful and that both the SGT and ST tickets were created :( |
| 03:20 | s/SGT/TGT/ | |
| 03:22 | rangi | what version of koha? |
| 03:22 | i know biblibre did some fixes/enhancements for 3.4 | |
| 03:23 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #223: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/223/ |
| 03:23 | Galen Charlton: textual improvements to release notes | |
| 03:24 | kmkale | 3.02.06.000 |
| 03:25 | rangi | ahh they didnt get signed off |
| 03:25 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6012 | |
| 03:25 | huginn | 04Bug 6012: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, Set up a working example of a CAS proxy |
| 03:26 | rangi | checkout the patch there, it might help |
| 03:26 | kmkale | thanks rangi |
| 03:27 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5630 |
| 03:27 | huginn | 04Bug 5630: enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, CAS improvements |
| 03:27 | rangi | maybe that one too |
| 03:32 | kmkale | rangi: is http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=3813&action=diff this a coombined patch of the propposed patches in 5630? |
| 03:34 | rangi | not sure |
| 03:34 | kmkale | k |
| 03:35 | rangi | doesnt look like it |
| 03:35 | it looks like you need to apply all of them in sequence | |
| 03:37 | kmkale | whoa I just logged out of the staff interface and got to CAS logout successful page |
| 03:38 | now if only it can login ;) | |
| 03:39 | CAS works for staff interface too? | |
| 03:40 | rangi | never tried it |
| 03:41 | kmkale | good fun for the long weekend ;) |
| 03:54 | * kmkale | is confused about this statement in the wiki "Note: simple sso cas support (no proxy) has been done already by biblibre, is in testing and should be released in Koha 3.2" |
| 03:55 | rangi | yes you will need to talk to them about how to do it |
| 04:05 | kmkale | yep |
| 04:05 | lets hope they come in today | |
| 04:08 | rangi | probably emailing the koha-devel list is the easiest way |
| 04:09 | * jcamins_away | peeks in. Exciting times. |
| 04:09 | rangi | hey jcamins_away |
| 04:09 | i had a question for you | |
| 04:09 | jcamins_away | Oh? |
| 04:09 | rangi | you did some work letting zebra hand back xml? or am i imagining that? |
| 04:10 | jcamins_away | Imagining it. |
| 04:10 | Sorry. | |
| 04:10 | rangi | dang |
| 04:10 | jcamins_away | That'd be really useful, though. |
| 04:10 | rangi | yep |
| 04:10 | * jcamins_away | 's goal for 3.6 is getting DOM indexing for MARC21 biblios. |
| 04:11 | rangi | cool |
| 04:11 | thatd be good | |
| 04:12 | jcamins_away | Especially for people who want to be able to search for books printed by a particular individual. |
| 04:12 | * jcamins_away | looks around... oh, I guess that's just me. |
| 04:13 | jcamins_away | Well, I _really_ want to be able to do that, anyway. |
| 04:13 | So we're at, what, T-4? | |
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| 04:14 | Oak | \o |
| 04:14 | rangi | yep |
| 04:15 | just gotta get the updated po files everything else is ready to g | |
| 04:15 | o | |
| 04:17 | Oak | : |
| 04:17 | ) | |
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| 04:33 | rangi | bbiab |
| 04:33 | jcamins_away | Okay, reindex is a go, and now it is time to sleep. |
| 04:33 | Good night, #koha | |
| 04:34 | And happy 3.4 (in advance)! | |
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| 04:59 | Brooke_ | kia ora! |
| 05:02 | rangi | hi Brooke_ |
| 05:03 | * Brooke_ | salutes Rangi |
| 05:21 | kmkale | rangi: YAH!! Just changed cas server url from https port 8443 to http & port 8180 and we are in business. |
| 05:22 | rangi | sweet |
| 05:22 | now we just have to fix that | |
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| 05:35 | rangi | hi hdl, you are are awake early |
| 05:35 | hdl | in fact i am at my computer early... ususally awake at 7.30 ;) |
| 05:38 | rangi | ahh the time change confused me i thought it was only 6.30 :) |
| 05:39 | hdl | I am awakening at 6.30 usually |
| 05:40 | rangi | ahh |
| 05:42 | Brooke_ | bonjour |
| 05:42 | wahanui | bonjour, Brooke_ |
| 05:52 | hdl | rangi: have you made some tests on big records ? |
| 05:52 | Is it showing ok at search results ? | |
| 05:52 | where is your biblionumber placed ? | |
| 05:52 | big records, i mean more than 1000 items; | |
| 05:53 | wizzyrea_away | biggest I looked at was about 100 |
| 05:53 | Brooke_ | you're not very away :P |
| 05:54 | wizzyrea_away | oh I am :P |
| 05:54 | hdl | with periodicals, you may have those figures. |
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| 06:21 | * cait | stumbles in |
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| 06:21 | cait | morning :) |
| 06:21 | Brooke_ | guten tag |
| 06:21 | wizzyrea_away | oh my! you are up so soon? |
| 06:21 | kmkale_ is now known as kmkale | |
| 06:22 | kmkale | hi cait |
| 06:22 | cait | it's the time I normally leave to work |
| 06:22 | woke up | |
| 06:22 | hi kmkale :) | |
| 06:24 | rangi | hi cait |
| 06:24 | cait | hi rangi :) |
| 06:24 | how is it going? | |
| 06:25 | rangi | good |
| 06:25 | www.koha-community.org is back, thanks to wizzyrea_away and her super effort | |
| 06:25 | cait | did she have to move it or is ec2 alive again? |
| 06:26 | Brooke_ | wizzyrea ++ |
| 06:27 | cait | ah I see |
| 06:27 | rangi | most of it is alive again afaict |
| 06:27 | Brooke_ | sleepy time at last. |
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| 06:27 | alex_a | hello #koha |
| 06:27 | rangi | hi alex_a |
| 06:27 | wizzyrea_away | most of it is alive, but I actually rebuilt it from backups |
| 06:27 | teh original server is still dead | |
| 06:31 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 06:31 | hi alex_a | |
| 06:31 | wizzyrea_away | psh its my job, but thx |
| 06:31 | cait | a lotof people around for a holiday :) |
| 06:32 | rangi | fredericd: around? |
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| 06:48 | cait | hm closed wrong window |
| 06:48 | wizzyrea_away | you are sleepy ;) |
| 06:52 | rangi | heh |
| 06:52 | cait | hm... |
| 06:52 | denying will probably not work | |
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| 06:55 | julian | hi #koha |
| 06:57 | rangi | hi julian |
| 06:58 | * cait | waves to julian |
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| 07:08 | ibeardslee | ahh found it again |
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| 07:22 | fredericd | rangi: yes |
| 07:23 | rangi | ahh cool, would you ahve time to push up the .po files for 3.4 |
| 07:23 | fredericd | yes |
| 07:23 | is it save to update .po files to TT now? | |
| 07:23 | safe | |
| 07:24 | rangi | yup |
| 07:24 | fredericd | Ok. Si I will get .po files from Pootle, update them to TT, push them on a branch, and send them back to Pootle |
| 07:24 | rangi | excellent |
| 07:25 | cait has updated the german opac one already but the rest arent | |
| 07:25 | thank you | |
| 07:25 | i have this note in the release announcement too | |
| 07:26 | These changes, in addition to the inclusion of many new features, mean a lot of new strings for translators to translate. | |
| 07:26 | For these reasons we recommend that people who are already running Koha in | |
| 07:26 | production delay their upgrade until 3.4.1, due May 22, to give the translators | |
| 07:26 | time to finish, and for the removing of item data to be streamlined. If you do wish to upgrade please make sure you read the UPGRADE section of the INSTALL document. | |
| 07:27 | (new installs are fine) | |
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| 07:30 | francharb | h i all |
| 07:30 | rangi | hi francharb |
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| 09:30 | rangi | thanks fredericd |
| 09:35 | fredericd | it's a huge commit because any language that have ever entered Koha repo has been updated. Next time, I will only pull updated languages by translators |
| 09:39 | rangi | *nod* |
| 09:55 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Update ALL Koha translation files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cef39d27d78ae8de6> |
| 09:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 224 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 10:02 | rangi | right, tarball built and signed, uploading now |
| 10:14 | and its out | |
| 10:16 | cait | whoohoo :) |
| 10:16 | rangi | thanks everyone for all your hard work |
| 10:17 | cait | rangi++ |
| 10:20 | noone else here for the party? | |
| 10:23 | hm | |
| 10:24 | francharb | \0/ party time cait! party time! |
| 10:24 | ;) | |
| 10:24 | cait | hehe |
| 10:24 | * cait | shares some chocolate with francharb and rangi |
| 10:24 | francharb | yummy |
| 10:24 | ;) | |
| 10:29 | cait | hehe, most normal thing of the world - once something is out in the world, you start seeing the typos |
| 10:29 | INTERNATIONALIZTION | |
| 10:30 | rangi | in the release notes? |
| 10:30 | heh, at least 6 people all missed that :) | |
| 10:31 | cait | yep |
| 10:31 | it's magic | |
| 10:31 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d27d78ae8de6#l113 |
| 10:31 | 3.2.0 too :-) | |
| 10:31 | its a trend | |
| 10:33 | cait | lol |
| 10:33 | in a few years, everybody will spell it like that | |
| 10:34 | rangi | heh |
| 10:35 | cait | and I think there will be at least one very obvious bug too |
| 10:35 | rangi | there always is |
| 10:35 | cait | right :) |
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| 10:35 | cait | hi druthb :) |
| 10:35 | druthb | hi |
| 10:36 | * cait | offers you some release party chocolate |
| 10:36 | cait | rangi: do I have to count or can you tell me how many different names are on that contributurs list? :) |
| 10:36 | * druthb | nibbles on chocolate |
| 10:38 | rangi | hm i worked it out the other day |
| 10:38 | 2 secs | |
| 10:38 | cait | yay - before yesterday ohloh said 99 - now 111 :D |
| 10:38 | commits, but cool numbers | |
| 10:39 | rangi | 66 |
| 10:39 | cait | honestly? |
| 10:39 | rangi | 66 people yes |
| 10:39 | cait | wow |
| 10:39 | rangi | you have 81 commits in 3.4 |
| 10:39 | .0 | |
| 10:39 | cait | that's a lot |
| 10:39 | rangi | alex_a has 19 |
| 10:40 | 10 for druthb | |
| 10:40 | kmkale | rangi: crongats |
| 10:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #224: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/224/ |
| 10:40 | Frédéric Demians: Update ALL Koha translation files | |
| 10:40 | rangi | 5 for you kmkale |
| 10:40 | * cait | hands kmkale some chocolate too |
| 10:40 | kmkale | what chocolates? |
| 10:40 | druthb | 10? wow. :) I didn't realize I'd done that many. |
| 10:40 | kmkale | aahh commits |
| 10:40 | cait | yummy chocolate |
| 10:41 | kmkale | :) |
| 10:41 | I wish I could jave gotten the local images thingi in | |
| 10:41 | cait | submit it tomorrow for 3.2.6 :) |
| 10:42 | it will be here much sooner that we all think | |
| 10:42 | kmkale | not ready for prime time yet. Also tyhe customer has not yet given the go ahead :( |
| 10:42 | adnc | I'm using z39.50 servers from this site http://listeci.itu.edu.tr/pipe[…]nuary/000259.html normally it works great, but sometimes i get a system error reply when doing a search. could someone please have a look into this list and tell me if there is something missing? |
| 10:43 | cait | hm, could be a problem with your target |
| 10:43 | adnc | you mean with the servers? |
| 10:44 | rangi | kmkale: we write the contracts so that isnt an issue |
| 10:44 | you pay us to do work, we release it | |
| 10:44 | thats the deal :) | |
| 10:45 | kmkale | I know, but its really raw yet. Works but raw stuff. Since the customer is sitting on the beta still, I never went back and readied it :( |
| 10:45 | cait | adnc: http://irspy.indexdata.com/ful[…]r%3A210%2FINNOPAC |
| 10:45 | rangi | oleonard has 188! |
| 10:45 | cait | hehe |
| 10:45 | no surprise | |
| 10:45 | he is very leistungsfähig ;) | |
| 10:46 | adnc | cait, ohh I know this site. I use MARC21 which is not listed there |
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| 10:46 | alex_a | rangi: 19 for me \o/ |
| 10:46 | adnc | the only information I'm missing is encoding, it works with marc-8 |
| 10:46 | alex_a | is there a ranking ? |
| 10:46 | cait | adnc: you are right, - missed that |
| 10:47 | adnc | cait, thanks anyway. it works most of the time |
| 10:50 | * druthb | sends "leistungsfähig" to leo.org for translation, and nods in agreement. |
| 10:52 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/gitdm/3_4.html |
| 10:52 | (set the browser encoding to utf8 or it messes up the diacritics) | |
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| 10:59 | cait | rangi++ |
| 10:59 | can't say that often enough | |
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| 11:10 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 11:10 | magnuse | 3.4 - woohoo! |
| 11:10 | hiya cait and #koha | |
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| 11:11 | cait | morning jwagner |
| 11:12 | jwagner | morning, cait |
| 11:15 | magnuse | hiya jwagner |
| 11:16 | jwagner | Hi magnuse |
| 11:16 | magnuse | rangi++ |
| 11:16 | almost forgot that... | |
| 11:17 | hdl | rangi++ |
| 11:17 | cait | bonjour hdl :) |
| 11:18 | rangi: what happens to the bugs now? | |
| 11:18 | marking them closed now after an additional testing round? | |
| 11:19 | magnuse | cait: that sounds like a good idea |
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| 11:25 | magnuse | and what about the 58 bugs that need signoff for rel_3_4 - should they be moved to rel_3_6? http://koha-community.org/get-involved/ |
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| 11:27 | cait | hi nengard |
| 11:27 | nengard | hiya |
| 11:27 | cait | come and eat chocolate with us ;) |
| 11:27 | adnc | I'm inserting into my DB with this command a marc field translations file mysql -u root -p koha_kutuphane < marc21_framework_DEFAULT.sq |
| 11:28 | unfortunately the umlautes do get corrupt | |
| 11:28 | is there anything I can do to avoid this | |
| 11:29 | hdl | --default-character-set=utf-8 |
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| 11:31 | cait | hi paul_p |
| 11:31 | adnc | ahh |
| 11:31 | thanks hdl | |
| 11:33 | yep, that did work | |
| 11:38 | magnuse | hiya nengard and paul_p |
| 11:51 | kmkale | hdl I have CAS authentication working in Koha 3.2.6. Can you tell me how to get Single Sign On working in Koha? |
| 11:51 | hdl | kmkale: there is documentation for that in C4::Auth_with_cas.pm iirc |
| 11:52 | * kmkale | is looking |
| 11:56 | kmkale | hdl: Nope. No documentation in C4::Auth_with_cas.pm |
| 11:58 | hdl | kmkale: sorry : documentation is here docs/CAS/ |
| 11:59 | kmkale | I just need to understand how SSO supposed to work. If a user is authenticated by another application using the same CAS service and s/he comes to Koha should s/he have to login again? If not how can that be acchieved? |
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| 12:01 | hdl | kmkale: no he doesnot have to. look at the documentation for CAS Proxy |
| 12:01 | kmkale | is CAS Proxy necessary to get SSO? SSO not possible with normal CAS Auth? |
| 12:02 | hdl | Koha uses his/her CAS Ticket and logs him in. |
| 12:02 | kmkale: they have it live in Lyon3 for a year now. | |
| 12:04 | users log in to their ENT and then when they gets on a koha page, their CAS Ticket comes and Koha uses that to create a session | |
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| 12:04 | kmkale | hdl: I am using 3.2.6. Which patches are must for CAS based SSO? bug 6012, bug 5630 ? |
| 12:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6012 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, matthias.meusburger, ASSIGNED, Set up a working example of a CAS proxy |
| 12:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5630 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED, CAS improvements | |
| 12:04 | hdl | kmkale: I am not really the one who developped CAS But it works. |
| 12:05 | kmkale | hdl: is there a special link we have to use to land in Koha? which has the ticket as a parameter? |
| 12:08 | hdl | kmkale: I think so. |
| 12:09 | You should read 5630 and 6012 files... And https://wiki.jasig.org/display[…]y+CAS+Walkthrough | |
| 12:09 | To have more insight of how it should be done. | |
| 12:09 | kmkale | hdl: did. :) |
| 12:10 | hdl: I am still confused about the SSO part | |
| 12:12 | hdl | I will ask matts to come or get in contact with you. |
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| 12:12 | hdl | (matts developped the stuff and know more about CAS than I) |
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| 12:12 | kmkale | thanks hdl. Whats his irc id? |
| 12:13 | hdl | matts is his nick |
| 12:13 | matthias his surname | |
| 12:13 | kmkale | great. Will ask him. Either here or on the list :) |
| 12:13 | oleonard | Congratulations and thanks to all who worked late last night |
| 12:14 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 12:15 | Irma | Congratulations from us @ CALYX! |
| 12:16 | Great Easter present to libraries around the world! | |
| 12:17 | cait | hi Irma :) |
| 12:17 | Irma | Hi cait :-) |
| 12:18 | cait | how are you Irma? |
| 12:18 | Irma | Really well now and with new clients on boards, have a lot to do witch is great.... |
| 12:18 | You? | |
| 12:18 | wahanui | You are right |
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| 12:20 | cait | all is good :) |
| 12:22 | magnuse | g'day Irma! |
| 12:27 | nengard | Looks like open source and koha were mentioned at the sirsi conference |
| 12:27 | http://twitter.com/#!/search/cosugi11%20koha | |
| 12:27 | http://twitter.com/#!/search/c[…]1%20open%20source | |
| 12:28 | Irma | cait hi there magnuse :-) |
| 12:28 | hi all | |
| 12:29 | although late we are actually working so I am a bit distracted | |
| 12:31 | magnuse | hehe, time for a little bit of holiday soon, maybe? ;-) |
| 12:38 | Irma | magnuse yep tomorrow and Sunday ... |
| 12:41 | oleonard | chris_n around? |
| 12:43 | @later tell chris_n Can't figure out why that marc_subfield_structure patch won't apply for you. | |
| 12:43 | huginn | oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:45 | kmkale | bye all. Have a great weekend :) |
| 12:45 | magnuse | the .po files were not renamed to anything with 4 in them aftr all? or will that be done for 3.4.1? |
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| 13:03 | magnuse | hiya sekjal |
| 13:03 | sekjal | hi, magnuse! |
| 13:04 | oleonard | Many thanks to sekjal and nengard for getting our passwords re-secured yesterday |
| 13:04 | I feel much more comfortable knowing that's taken care of | |
| 13:04 | nengard | :) |
| 13:04 | no prob | |
| 13:05 | sekjal | gladly |
| 13:05 | cait | nengard: how did you do it? |
| 13:05 | or sekjal | |
| 13:05 | nengard | nothing special |
| 13:06 | cait | this is about the ! right? |
| 13:06 | nengard | just wiped out the defaults so there was no password |
| 13:06 | yes | |
| 13:06 | sekjal | if you manually set the password in the DB to either NULL or '', it prevents login, but still allows the storage of a userid |
| 13:07 | cait | cool, thx |
| 13:18 | oleonard | Friday + 3.4 release hangovers = quiet day in #koha |
| 13:19 | magnuse | and a holiday in many parts of the world... |
| 13:19 | oleonard | Here too for some, just depends on your employer |
| 13:20 | nengard | patron import question ... can we set the default messaging preferences for a patron using the import tool? |
| 13:20 | I don't see the option in the CSV file or the tool page | |
| 13:23 | cait | nengard: no not yet, but I think there might be a command line script |
| 13:23 | nengard | k |
| 13:23 | cait | and it will take your settings from the patron category |
| 13:24 | nengard | submitting an enhancement |
| 13:24 | oh right that was a 3.4 patch right? | |
| 13:24 | cait | the script I think yes |
| 13:24 | it took the settings from the beginning I thin | |
| 13:24 | but I forgot to configure that a couple of times | |
| 13:30 | nengard | so the command line does it, but not the tool in koha |
| 13:33 | cait | hm? |
| 13:33 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 13:35 | jwagner | morning, gmcharlt |
| 13:36 | nengard | well i've reported an enhancement bug 6252 |
| 13:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6252 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Patron import tool should let you set messaging preferences |
| 13:36 | nengard | cait feel free to update it if i'm wrong |
| 13:37 | cait | hm |
| 13:37 | I think there is a separate scirpt for updating messaging preferences nt related to the import really | |
| 13:38 | and if you have messaging preferences set for the imported patron category - those will be set | |
| 13:38 | gmcharlt | both true |
| 13:38 | wizzyrea | there was aonther thing with patron import |
| 13:39 | trivial, debatable thing | |
| 13:39 | where the labels for the fields are their field names, and not their english names | |
| 13:39 | gmcharlt | but on other hand, being able to tweak the messaging settings directly at the point of import to use something other than the patron category defaults |
| 13:39 | would have its uses | |
| 13:39 | cait | would be nice :) |
| 13:39 | right | |
| 13:40 | but until then - it's nice to have some possibilites to achieve what you want to do :) | |
| 13:40 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: internationalize the patron import header, you mean? |
| 13:40 | cait | hm |
| 13:40 | wizzyrea | sec |
| 13:40 | pic | |
| 13:41 | magnuse | see you later #koha! |
| 13:41 | cait | not sure that is worth the trouble |
| 13:41 | bye magnuse | |
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| 13:41 | wizzyrea | it takes 2 sec ;) |
| 13:41 | gmcharlt | tick-tock-tick-tock ;) |
| 13:42 | wizzyrea | ok a little more than 2 |
| 13:42 | but only bc I made a note on it :P | |
| 13:42 | http://screencast.com/t/8bxwZdw2U | |
| 13:42 | cait | hm I think the list is generated |
| 13:42 | wizzyrea | now I understand there's an argument here to be made that the csv requires those specific names |
| 13:42 | so why not match them | |
| 13:43 | this is what happens when you let me poke at thing! | |
| 13:43 | s/thing/things | |
| 13:43 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: ah, I see |
| 13:43 | adding a translation of the descriptoin of the field label woudl make sense | |
| 13:44 | as along as the column name was also listed, since that's what's needed in the CSV file header | |
| 13:44 | wizzyrea | and mostly they're self explanatory, until you get to things like b_address |
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| 13:45 | gmcharlt | (not that one could *also* i18n-ize the header line, but that's much more debatable - would make the file format for languages other than en subject to the whims of the translators) |
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| 13:46 | gmcharlt | or more precisely, the *changing* whims, as it were |
| 13:46 | I haven't had my tea yet - am I making sense? | |
| 13:47 | wizzyrea | I think so |
| 13:47 | i'm only talking about the human readability of the labels on those fields | |
| 13:47 | go have your tea :) | |
| 13:47 | nengard | sorry - was testing something .. I want to be able to import patrons with messaging preferences as a column .. like the patron attributes - that's what I was saying |
| 13:47 | good to know that defaults will be set though | |
| 13:47 | gmcharlt | Right, so for es-ES |
| 13:47 | Apellido (surname) | |
| 13:47 | etc. | |
| 13:47 | wizzyrea | yea, exactly |
| 13:48 | gmcharlt | nengard: right - so you can work around it now, but I also agree that your proposal would be useful |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea: of course, to actually do that would end up being a bigger project, but one that would have other i18n benefits: namely, making it possible to translate the names of database columns | |
| 13:50 | where "names" could equal both "names" and "capsule descriptions" that can be used in other parts of the UI | |
| 13:51 | cait | like reports |
| 13:51 | gmcharlt | exactly |
| 13:51 | cait | I think there was an attempt to do that |
| 13:51 | but seems not maintained | |
| 13:51 | columns.defs | |
| 13:52 | gmcharlt | cait: right, and that might be a starting-off point |
| 13:52 | cait | I think it's used in the guided reports |
| 13:53 | gmcharlt | yes, it is |
| 13:54 | but doesn't look like it's hooked up to the translation system | |
| 13:55 | cait | right |
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| 13:57 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 13:57 | sorry cait, of course you've already thought of all this | |
| 13:57 | @bug 5482 | |
| 13:57 | huginn | gmcharlt: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5482 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Translation problem in guided reports - Item field names |
| 13:58 | wizzyrea | oy that's a much bigger problem |
| 13:58 | cait | o |
| 13:58 | h | |
| 13:58 | totally forgot that I wrote that | |
| 13:59 | I like the spystatus | |
| 14:00 | * cait | is a little confused now |
| 14:00 | cait | time to grab something to eat |
| 14:08 | nengard | how do i edit the release notes? we forgot a library that sponsored a dev |
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| 14:12 | gmcharlt | nengard: you can just send a patch, and I can edit rangi's post on the website |
| 14:12 | who is the library? | |
| 14:12 | wahanui | the library is asking for the renewal to be from last expiry date of the patron by default |
| 14:12 | gmcharlt | wahanui: forget the library |
| 14:12 | wahanui | gmcharlt: I forgot library |
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| 14:12 | gmcharlt | (I feel slightly dirty doing that just now, libraries shouldn't be forgotten!) |
| 14:12 | nengard | thanks gmcharlt |
| 14:13 | patch sent | |
| 14:14 | tcohen | koha++ |
| 14:17 | gmcharlt | nengard: post updated |
| 14:17 | nengard | Thanks! Sorry we missed them :( glad it's fixed |
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| 14:25 | gmcharlt | who is running 3.4.0 (or almost-3.4.0) now? |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | we are running something back in the 30's |
| 14:26 | it's pre TT | |
| 14:29 | cait | I think magnuse wanted to update his demo |
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| 14:36 | cait | our libraries are on 3.2.2 |
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| 15:51 | wizzyrea | is anybody (besides ptfs... I know they have this) working on being able to edit circ rules? |
| 15:52 | instead of delete/recreate? | |
| 15:52 | gmcharlt | could have sworn there was an ajax-y patch for that floating around |
| 15:52 | maybe in one of the biblibre branches? | |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | oh that could be |
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| 15:58 | nengard | wizzyrea gmcharlt biblibre has work on that |
| 15:58 | and it looked slick! | |
| 15:58 | just didn't make it in to 3.4 | |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | aha |
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| 15:58 | wizzyrea | I thought someone else had done it |
| 15:58 | nengard | :) |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | thx :) |
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| 16:54 | fcapo | Hello, I had some indexation problems and I notice something : the default record.abs file seems to be configured incorrectly. |
| 16:55 | there are fields defined two times, and the order the fields are declared might be incorrect. | |
| 16:55 | see http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]er-td3072197.html | |
| 16:57 | Many time, I got authorities that showed they were linked to 0 biblios while they were actually linked to some biblios. | |
| 16:58 | It was because the field 710$9 was never indexed because it was placed after 710 in the record.abs file | |
| 17:00 | The field 710 is also declared twice in record.abs, which seems wrong to me | |
| 17:01 | Just want to know if there was some recent attempts at correcting record.abs | |
| 17:06 | Ugh... seems I chose the wrong day to speak. I'll post a bug report. | |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | everybody was up late getting the release done |
| 17:07 | plus it's a holiday | |
| 17:07 | plus fridays are always a bit slim around here, because it's saturday in half the world. | |
| 17:07 | fcapo | yea, didn't realise that, I'm still working today :P |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | me too :) |
| 17:07 | but I can't answer your questions :/ | |
| 17:08 | fcapo | ok, no problems, like I said, I'll post a bug report and see what happens. |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea | :) always a good course of action |
| 17:08 | that way you can always just pop in and reference your bug | |
| 17:09 | fcapo | true |
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| 17:18 | nengard | i think i found a bug but could use some confirmation ... |
| 17:18 | i'm trying to import a csv | |
| 17:18 | of patrons | |
| 17:18 | I downloaded the one from the page in Koha and filled in the fields | |
| 17:18 | same thing I've done many times before, but this time I got a head row error | |
| 17:19 | found the bug | |
| 17:19 | you can't have borrowernumber in the file | |
| 17:20 | so should the CSV have that then? | |
| 17:22 | fcapo | Normally, the borrowernumber is an automatically generated ID used by Koha, I don't think it would be a good ides to include it in the CSV unless you want to modify existing users. |
| 17:24 | looking at the import page, it seems the cardnumber is used to modify existing users, so I guess the borrowernumber would be useless here. | |
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| 17:33 | nengard | yeah, so i'll report this and people can discuss what's best |
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| 17:38 | fcapo | after searching for a while, found my bug : Bug 5736 |
| 17:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5736 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Fixing some zebra configuration errors in marc21/biblios/record.abs |
| 17:45 | chris_n | so much for "enterprise class data centers" hosted in amazon's cloud |
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| 18:21 | oleonard | Koha needs an interface for canceling transfers. |
| 18:24 | cait | hm? |
| 18:25 | oleonard | I've got titles on my 'transfers to receive' report which are 794 days late. They've already been marked lost. But the transfer is still pending. |
| 18:27 | It might also be a good idea to cancel any outstanding transfer when making something lost. | |
| 18:28 | cait | ah ok |
| 18:28 | so a way to deal with lost or missing transfers? | |
| 18:29 | I wondered why you don't just return them, but that makes sense | |
| 18:31 | oleonard | The other problem with just returning them is you have to log in at the branch they're being transferred to, check them in, then log back in to the branch where they belong, check them in again. |
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| 18:40 | oleonard | Hmm.... Bug 2941 |
| 18:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. |
| 18:40 | cait | an old one |
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| 18:41 | cait | sometimes it's really surprising what is all in bugzilla |
| 18:41 | sekjal | oleonard: I can put that bug on my hit list, if it's proving particularly offensive |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | NEKLS would love to see that too |
| 18:41 | a way to cancel transfers | |
| 18:42 | oleonard | sekjal: I'm looking right now at the work rangi did on that bug. It doesn't look like it ever got merged |
| 18:43 | sekjal | the good news is there is already a subroutine in C4::Circulation to delete transfers |
| 18:44 | would be easy enough to add a "Cancel Transfer" to the transferstoreceive.pl page | |
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| 18:46 | gmc_training | good afternoon, folks |
| 18:46 | sekjal | afternoon, gmc_training! |
| 18:46 | gmc_training | please say hello to Greg, who is taking some Koha training today |
| 18:47 | cait | hi gmc_training |
| 18:47 | hi greg :) | |
| 18:47 | * oleonard | will brb |
| 18:47 | oleonard left #koha | |
| 18:47 | gmc_training | :) |
| 18:48 | * wizzyrea | waves at both gmc_training and greg |
| 18:48 | gmc_training left #koha | |
| 18:51 | oleonard joined #koha | |
| 18:52 | oleonard | My tab key ran out of tabs, so I had to refill it by restarting. |
| 18:53 | nengard | hehe |
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| 19:01 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.4.0 is now available | Next IRC meeting 11 May 2011 0200 UTC+0 | http://koha-community.org | This channel is logged | Pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org | |
| 19:09 | joetho | Hello Greg |
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| 19:39 | oleonard | I attached a patch to Bug 2941 |
| 19:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2941 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. |
| 19:44 | sekjal | great! |
| 19:44 | cait | oleonard+1 |
| 19:45 | oleonard++ | |
| 19:46 | oleonard | I guess that just got lost in the cracks. It was 99% done unless there's a catch I'm missing |
| 19:46 | cait | as I said - bugzilla is full of surprises :) |
| 19:48 | rangi | yeah got lost in the 3.2 release and kohacon10 |
| 19:48 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 19:49 | rangi | morning |
| 19:50 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 2941] Transfers cannot be canceled once initiated. <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2941> |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | oo oo |
| 19:54 | * wizzyrea | goes to grab that |
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| 20:02 | oleonard | Someone show that troll at the Syrsi conference this page: http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]erse.pl?Year=2011 |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | interesting |
| 20:03 | no one switched away from koha-bywater | |
| 20:04 | guys, that's really awesome! | |
| 20:05 | looks like no one switched away from evergreen either | |
| 20:06 | * cait | makes notes |
| 20:08 | sekjal | wizzyrea: our goal is to keep our service levels high enough that no one ever walks away out of unhappiness |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | sekjal: it's working, apparently :) |
| 20:09 | sekjal | :) we like our partners very much |
| 20:09 | cait | :) |
| 20:16 | joetho | troll at sd conference? |
| 20:19 | oleonard | joetho: Someone quoted this line on Twitter: "open source ILS just didn't seem to have panned out." |
| 20:19 | rangi | oleonard: the troll was the sd people |
| 20:19 | of course they are going to do that | |
| 20:19 | we are terrorists of course | |
| 20:20 | joetho | <-- I would have spoked up, oh yes I would have |
| 20:20 | <--- now working in a s/d shop. | |
| 20:20 | <--opensource infidel | |
| 20:21 | rangi | well, there was a fair amount of passive aggression on twitter, its what its for doncha know :) |
| 20:21 | joetho | always |
| 20:21 | * oleonard | terrorizes the innocent public with dangerous patches |
| 20:21 | rangi | but im not sure anyone heckled :) |
| 20:21 | joetho | I would have but I didn't go. |
| 20:21 | cait | oleonard: I am scared :) |
| 20:21 | joetho | Phoenix. |
| 20:21 | oh you are not either. | |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 20:22 | on latest master | |
| 20:22 | on the advanced search, in the intranet | |
| 20:22 | there are no "and" dropdowns | |
| 20:22 | cait | you turned on the more options? |
| 20:22 | * oleonard | quits for the weekend |
| 20:22 | oleonard left #koha | |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 20:22 | let me check | |
| 20:22 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: history.txt updates for April 2011 releases <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]16f8fec03ed27f724> / Add missing library to release notes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e38ffb4ca69aba70b> |
| 20:23 | cait | I remember testing that - it was broken by tt but fixed afaik |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | yea, it's on |
| 20:23 | cait | hm |
| 20:23 | does it work in opac? | |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | mine looks like: http://screencast.com/t/SzxbJAffuZGO |
| 20:23 | cait | perhaps we only fixed one of those |
| 20:23 | klick on more options | |
| 20:24 | click even | |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | aha! |
| 20:24 | is that a cookie? | |
| 20:24 | cait | no |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | hrm |
| 20:24 | oki | |
| 20:24 | cait | it's a sys pref |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | mine is set to show, I believe |
| 20:24 | cait | no idea then :) |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea | yep, it's set to show, soooo |
| 20:25 | something has gone awry, gromit :) | |
| 20:26 | cait | hm, but not an evil bug |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea | hm |
| 20:27 | nope | |
| 20:27 | not evil | |
| 20:27 | here's another one tho | |
| 20:27 | if you search by available items only | |
| 20:27 | if any item is unavailable | |
| 20:27 | you won't find the book | |
| 20:27 | by title | |
| 20:28 | rangi | yeah, thats been there for ever, i think there is a bug for that |
| 20:28 | wizzyrea | hum de dum |
| 20:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 225 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:30 | cait | I think ther eis one for icu and available items |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | bug 4481? |
| 20:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4481 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Search's Limit to Available filters out many available items |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea | but there was a patch for marc21 |
| 20:31 | cait | bug 5958 |
| 20:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5958 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Availability Limit with icu |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | so which does "works under keyword but not under title" fall under? |
| 20:33 | * wizzyrea | has really no clue about ICU |
| 20:34 | rangi | re the question earlier about bugs marked for rel_3_4 |
| 20:34 | * cait | perks up |
| 20:34 | rangi | if they are bugs, leave them marked for that, if they are enhancements shift them to rel_3_6 |
| 20:34 | that will help chris_n know which ones to cherry-pick etc | |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | o cool I didn't realize chris_n stayed on as releasemaint :) |
| 20:35 | i may have been under a rock | |
| 20:35 | * chris_n | needs all the help he can get :-P |
| 20:35 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:35 | cait | are you maintaining 3.4 and 3.2 now |
| 20:35 | ? | |
| 20:35 | rangi | its a big job |
| 20:36 | chris_n | cait: yup |
| 20:36 | cait | you are crazy :) chris_n++ |
| 20:36 | chris_n | although I anticipate that stuff for 3.2 will slow down quite a bit now |
| 20:36 | cait | rangi: what about the status? |
| 20:36 | I thik that was for open bugs? | |
| 20:36 | rangi | if its needs signoff, and the patch doesnt have tmpl changes |
| 20:36 | cait | what about the patch pushed ones? |
| 20:36 | rangi | it can stay as it is |
| 20:37 | if it has tmpl changes, it would be good to note that it needs to be reformatted | |
| 20:37 | * chris_n | notes that patches which should be included in 3.2.x should be noted as such in the commit comments |
| 20:37 | rangi | cait: pushed, but not resolved yet? |
| 20:37 | chris_n | or taged for 3.2.x in the subject line |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | erm, ok dense question |
| 20:38 | cait | I think so |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | i just created a branch but forgot to add which remote branch to track |
| 20:38 | can I add that | |
| 20:38 | after the fact? | |
| 20:38 | rangi | cait: mark them resolved fixed if they are |
| 20:38 | * chris_n | does not think so |
| 20:38 | cait | and I think I need some very clear guidelines - because I want to do some bug wrangling but start to get confused now :) |
| 20:38 | chris_n | just git branch -D and recreate |
| 20:39 | rangi | any that are resolved fixed, you can test and mark closed |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | kk, that's what I was thinking but i wanted to make sure there wasn't some wicked git fu I was missing out on |
| 20:39 | rangi | you can rebase it |
| 20:39 | cait | rangi: and if they are only patch pushed but tnot resolved fixed yet but confirmed working in 3.4? |
| 20:39 | my, this gets complicated | |
| 20:40 | rangi | they alwyas go resolved fixed first |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | thanks chris_n |
| 20:40 | rangi | and someone else closes them |
| 20:40 | chris_n | np :) |
| 20:40 | rangi | so you hsould resolved fix and close the same bug |
| 20:40 | 2 diff people | |
| 20:40 | should | |
| 20:40 | does that make sense? | |
| 20:40 | cait | yep |
| 20:40 | rangi | hsould = shouldnt |
| 20:40 | cait | but I fear we will never get that all done ;) |
| 20:40 | chris_n | @later tell oleonard I'll try your patch again Monday |
| 20:40 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:41 | rangi | cait: getting to resolved fix is the most important bit |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | chris_n: are you looking at 2941? |
| 20:41 | rangi | i plan to mark all the ones resolved fixed as closed in a week or 2 |
| 20:41 | cait | ok |
| 20:42 | marking resolved fixed after testing - got it | |
| 20:42 | chris_n | wizzyrea: no, this is another he wrote for 3.2.x specifically |
| 20:42 | cait | oh |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | chris_n: k |
| 20:42 | chris_n | do I need to pick that one for 3.2.x? |
| 20:43 | cait | ok, I will regret that |
| 20:43 | I guess I have to test both 3.2.x and 3.4 to mark resolved? | |
| 20:44 | chris_n | it would be nice if bugzilla allowed for marking multiple versions for a bug |
| 20:44 | cait | it would |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | oho |
| 20:44 | chris_n | cait: I'd say that if the bug appears in both, both need to be tested |
| 20:44 | cait | as long as it doesn't i will leave a comment which version was tested.... I guess |
| 20:44 | and leave open until both were | |
| 20:44 | rangi | yeah that would be good |
| 20:45 | * chris_n | plans on pressing for a rather quick EOL on 3.2.x as soon as we get out a release or two of 3.4.x |
| 20:46 | cait | I hope you do that |
| 20:46 | because I will NOT test in 3 versions ;) | |
| 20:46 | chris_n | I suppose a final 3.0.x will not happen at this point? |
| 20:46 | * chris_n | wonders if we should do a formal EOL announcement for 3.0.x |
| 20:47 | rangi | i don thtink there is much point doing a final one now |
| 20:47 | chris_n | maybe we can talk owen into a fancy sculpted, metalic look interface for 4.0... ;-) |
| 20:48 | cait | lol |
| 20:48 | blinking buttons and running text? | |
| 20:48 | chris_n | hehe |
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| 20:51 | sekjal | I was thinking of doing a movie trailer for Koha 4.0 |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | oleonard++ for finding that transfer code |
| 20:51 | rangi++ for writing | |
| 20:51 | it | |
| 20:51 | because | |
| 20:51 | it actually fixes another bug too | |
| 20:51 | rangi | now we have a bunch of bug wranglers |
| 20:51 | things like this should get lost less | |
| 20:51 | ill send out a call to action next week | |
| 20:52 | cait | cool :) |
| 20:52 | rangi | of course cait prolly will have finished it all by then knowing her |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | she's very efficient |
| 20:53 | cait | oh don't do that |
| 20:53 | rangi | heh, mbreeding must have heard oleonard |
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| 20:53 | wizzyrea | I think that fix for 2941 also fixes bug 6226 |
| 20:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6226 normal, P5, ---, ian.walls, NEW, Returning a misrouted item twice causes transit to correct receiving library to disappear |
| 20:53 | rangi | he tweeted the turnover reports |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea: yay, first candidate for 3.4.1 | |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | i still have some testing to do |
| 20:54 | on it | |
| 20:54 | cait | ok, another can of worms |
| 20:54 | what about the rfc's on the wiki? | |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | but oy vey, if that gets fixed... so happy |
| 20:55 | rangi | cait: yeah the ones that have bugs attached, we can check the bugs and mark it done if they are resolved |
| 20:55 | the other ones .. probably will involve emails to the devel list | |
| 20:55 | what i want to do in the next few weeks | |
| 20:56 | is try to get everything that has a patch marked needs signoff, either signed off or reformatted so it can be signed off | |
| 20:56 | sekjal | signed off on 2941 |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | sekjal: i'm going to too, but I want to test it in context of holds too |
| 20:56 | rangi | before we can a pile more |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | so I'm doing that now |
| 20:56 | rangi | can=add |
| 20:56 | sekjal | wizzyrea: one of the ones I tested had a hold |
| 20:57 | cait | rangi: you are an optimist :) |
| 20:57 | rangi | heh, well even a few is good |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | I have something special in mind |
| 20:57 | sekjal | from Library A to Library B, checked in at Library C |
| 20:57 | two messages | |
| 20:57 | the first about the transfer, with the cancel transfer link, and the second about the hold | |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 20:58 | that's bad | |
| 20:58 | it should not prompt to send home | |
| 20:58 | ever, if there is a hold | |
| 20:59 | get stuff going all over the place that way | |
| 20:59 | because staff don't always read the screen | |
| 20:59 | I don't think I could sign off if it introduces dual prompts | |
| 20:59 | rangi | s/dont always/never/ |
| 20:59 | sekjal | wizzyrea: my understanding was that the dual prompts were already there |
| 21:00 | this just adds a link to one of them to cancel the transfer | |
| 21:00 | rangi | *nod* |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | mmm no I thought we just had this fixed |
| 21:00 | 1s | |
| 21:00 | cait | hm yes there was a patch about dual prompts |
| 21:01 | bug 6004? | |
| 21:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6004 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, checking in an item that needs to be transferred home, and is on-hold for a patron, causes dual transfer message box |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | was from ruth |
| 21:01 | yep that's the one | |
| 21:01 | rangi | easy way to test, git reset HEAD^ |
| 21:02 | git stash | |
| 21:02 | and if the dual prompts are still there, its not it | |
| 21:02 | cait | what does the first command do? |
| 21:02 | or undo? | |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | un mo |
| 21:02 | sekjal | that patch uses $hbr, which is problematic |
| 21:03 | $hbr is defined as HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn, not uniformly homebranch | |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | hm this must be one of the last dual prompt situations |
| 21:03 | sekjal | which is fine, set it to homebranch, and you're good to go |
| 21:03 | rangi | yep thats what that syspref is supposed to do |
| 21:03 | sekjal | but if you're in IndependantBranches, that means you can't check the item back in at the library that issued it |
| 21:04 | rangi | you can if you have it set to holdingbranch |
| 21:04 | sekjal | yes, but then you won't be prompted to transfer it to it's homebranch if you have AutoItemReturn set to yes |
| 21:04 | it'll just stay at the holdingbranch | |
| 21:04 | rangi | right, because youve told it that you allow it to stay at holdingbranch |
| 21:05 | sekjal | there's no way in IndependantBranches to send the item home automatically |
| 21:05 | if homebranch, you can't check it back in. | |
| 21:05 | if holdingbranch, it stays where it's returned | |
| 21:05 | rangi | right, however its fixed it needs to not break it for not independant branches too |
| 21:06 | ie it needs to respect the homeorholdingbranch syspref | |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | bug 4234 |
| 21:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4234 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Automatic transfer shouldn't take precedence over a hold transit |
| 21:06 | sekjal | HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn is being used two different ways in AddReturn |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | which is what i'm seeing here |
| 21:06 | sekjal | one to define where one is allowed to return the material, the other to determine where it should be transferred to after return |
| 21:07 | rangi | afaict the patch for 2941 doesnt touch hbr at all |
| 21:07 | are you talking about the one for 6004? | |
| 21:07 | sekjal | rangi: yes, this is 6004 |
| 21:07 | 2941 does what it planned to do | |
| 21:08 | 6004 needs a follow up | |
| 21:08 | rangi | ah right |
| 21:08 | sekjal | I have code in testing for it |
| 21:08 | * rangi | was confused |
| 21:08 | * cait | is still |
| 21:08 | sekjal | this was seriously goffing up MassCat, until I patched them |
| 21:08 | rangi | can you note this on 6004 |
| 21:08 | sekjal | yes |
| 21:08 | rangi | thanks |
| 21:09 | also, i note you have been using the blocks feature in bugzilla | |
| 21:09 | sekjal++ | |
| 21:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #225: SUCCESS in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/225/ |
| 21:09 | * Nicole C. Engard: Add missing library to release notes | |
| 21:09 | * Galen Charlton: history.txt updates for April 2011 releases | |
| 21:10 | rangi | makes tracking related bugs a lot easier |
| 21:10 | because you get the nice tree view | |
| 21:10 | so, block/depends etc these one together would be good wizzyrea | |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | I didn't mean to confuse the issue, I just hadn't seen a dual prompt in so long I was surprised. |
| 21:12 | hmm | |
| 21:12 | sekjal | 6004 update with notes |
| 21:12 | now, I must depart | |
| 21:12 | fcapo left #koha | |
| 21:13 | sekjal | have a good weekend, #koha friends! |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | bye sekjal, have a good weekend :) |
| 21:13 | sekjal left #koha | |
| 21:13 | cait | bye sekjal :) |
| 21:14 | rangi | http://www.amzari.com/v3/2011/[…]-open-source-ils/ |
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| 21:14 | rangi | ill encourage them to put the code in a git repo |
| 21:15 | cos its sounds cool | |
| 21:15 | cait | it does |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | uh, yea |
| 21:16 | oleonard will be mad tho ;) | |
| 21:16 | i know he wanted to tackle that | |
| 21:16 | rangi | he can take it, and fix it for tt |
| 21:16 | :) | |
| 21:17 | jcamins_away | rangi: do you know how to get in touch with Tumer, to ask if he'd be willing to share his Zebra configuration? |
| 21:17 | rangi | ill dig up an email |
| 21:17 | and im sure he would | |
| 21:17 | hes a great guy | |
| 21:20 | wizzyrea | i really want that mobile interface >.< |
| 21:20 | * wizzyrea | doesn't want to have to pay for library anywhere, even though it's pretty great. |
| 21:22 | rangi | http://library.neu.edu.tr/cgi-[…]infrastructure.pl |
| 21:22 | there ya go | |
| 21:24 | bbiab | |
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| 21:55 | cait | h |
| 21:55 | hm | |
| 21:55 | I did a git pull... | |
| 21:55 | it said merge made by recursive... and it seems very busy? | |
| 21:59 | hm. | |
| 22:01 | rangi | yes it will be |
| 22:01 | all the po files | |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | oh yea mine took ages |
| 22:01 | where ages = several minutes, more than I had the patience to watch | |
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| 22:05 | cait | ah |
| 22:05 | I got worried :) | |
| 22:08 | rangi: is there a way to manage branches on bulk? Like deleting all starting with tt? | |
| 22:10 | ah, you can list more than one branch for deletion | |
| 22:17 | * jcamins_away | realizes too late... much too late... that he forgot to shut down MySQL before deleting ibdata1. |
| 22:18 | cait | sounds like it's a bad thing to forget |
| 22:19 | jcamins_away | Yeah, probably. |
| 22:19 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: it's an opportunity to validate your data recovery process |
| 22:19 | think of it that way :) | |
| 22:20 | jcamins_away | gmcharlt: the reason I deleted ibdata1 was to get rid of the data. |
| 22:20 | My 400MB DB was taking ~6GB. | |
| 22:20 | And I have 1.5GB of data to load into it. | |
| 22:23 | * jcamins_away | is aware that there was probably a better way to deal with the issue. |
| 22:23 | jcamins_away | Fortunately, restarting MySQL fixed everything. |
| 22:57 | cait | bye :) |
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