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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:06 | rangi | sekjal: does xslt in the staff client results work? |
| 00:06 | i think i might be losing my mind | |
| 00:07 | sekjal | that may be the one that doesnt |
| 00:07 | rangi | i know it does for detail |
| 00:07 | sekjal | then it's the results that don't |
| 00:07 | rangi | right ta |
| 00:21 | Ahmuck left #koha | |
| 00:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 74 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #70 17 h ago) |
| 00:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5883 : Prevent re-encoding the items if they are already in UTF-8 in ModBiblio. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b64a986c880024079> |
| 00:47 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5939: "Save and edit items" button broken <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]022bfe75cb9f3b714> / Bug 5921: Add enumchron to the items detail page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0aa2f17b269ce2665> | |
| 01:10 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 01:10 | Project Koha_master build #74: FIXED in 40 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/74/ | |
| 01:10 | Frédérick Capovilla: Bug 5883 : Prevent re-encoding the items if they are already in UTF-8 in ModBiblio. | |
| 01:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5883 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED, UTF-8 characters in items (952) get encoded wrong when the record is modified. |
| 01:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 75 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 01:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #75: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/75/ |
| 01:49 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5921: Add enumchron to the items detail page | |
| 01:49 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5939: "Save and edit items" button broken | |
| 01:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5921 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Enumchron does not show up on item details screen in staff client |
| 01:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5939 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, Save and edit items button no longer works | |
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| 01:52 | jcamins_away | rangi: did you push my follow-up for 3098? |
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| 01:52 | rangi | nope, cos the bug is sitting at needs signoff |
| 01:53 | jcamins_away | That's why the other one didn't apply. |
| 01:53 | I'll attach the signed-off patch to the bug. | |
| 01:53 | rangi | ah right |
| 01:53 | its more the status :) | |
| 01:53 | but that would help too | |
| 01:54 | jcamins_away | Oh, Nicole attached it. |
| 01:54 | Right-o. | |
| 01:54 | rangi | yes, its only the status that is puzzling me |
| 01:55 | jcamins_away | Sorry, I was confused. |
| 01:55 | Updated to signed-off. | |
| 01:55 | rangi | ta |
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| 01:56 | jcamins_away | I had a lot of trouble figuring out how to deal with those two patches, because functionally, bug 5919 shouldn't depend on 3098. |
| 01:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5919 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, MARC21 fields 583 and 586 should display in OPAC Details |
| 01:57 | rangi | right |
| 01:57 | if you run into that again | |
| 01:57 | jcamins_away | However, I wasn't able to fix 5919 until I had done the clean up on bug 3098. |
| 01:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3098 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, REOPENED, XSLT stylesheet does not obey OPACURLOpenInNewWindow syspref |
| 01:57 | rangi | use the blocks/depends on |
| 01:57 | that way ill know what order to apply them in | |
| 01:57 | jcamins_away | Okay. Can do. |
| 01:58 | rangi | cool thanks |
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| 02:05 | rangi | hi wizzyrea |
| 02:11 | jcamins_away | I marked the dependency in bugzilla. |
| 02:11 | rangi | thanks ill hopefully get them pushed tonight |
| 02:11 | jcamins_away | :) |
| 02:11 | And I'll try to find someone to sign 5868 so you can get my last two pushed. | |
| 02:12 | :) | |
| 02:12 | rangi | :) |
| 02:12 | * jcamins_away | looks around for someone sufficiently geeky about MARC records to be concerned with the indexing of subject headings. |
| 02:12 | wizzyrea_ | hey there |
| 02:13 | jcamins_away | A victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hindividual concerned with the indexing of subject headings! |
| 02:18 | wizzyrea_ | 100k a second... dirty wanks at ATT |
| 02:18 | if I were in korea I'd be done by now! | |
| 02:19 | * wizzyrea_ | moans some more about the abysmal standard of broadband in the US |
| 02:19 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea_: feel free to test reporting tomorrow. :D |
| 02:20 | wizzyrea_ | oh, I'm sorry, it's only 70k >.< even better |
| 02:20 | Woot! | |
| 02:20 | I spent a good chunk of time this afternoon retooling reports to use parameters | |
| 02:20 | we had/have a simply ludicrous list of saved reports | |
| 02:22 | mostly because if people wanted to run a report with their branch code, they'd copy/paste the sql into a new report, save it, then not delete their copy | |
| 02:22 | oieeee | |
| 02:22 | anybody have a computer game they're totally loving right now? | |
| 02:23 | rangi | havent played a game in months |
| 02:23 | wizzyrea_ | (besides rift or wow) |
| 02:24 | jcamins_away | The closest I get is messing with Koha's XSLT stylesheets. |
| 02:25 | wizzyrea_ | hmm. That might be kind of a sadistic game |
| 02:25 | space_librarian_home | civ 4... oldie but a goodie. |
| 02:25 | * chilts_ | wishes XML and XSLT had never been invented :) |
| 02:25 | chilts_ is now known as chilts | |
| 02:26 | wizzyrea_ | oo yea civ is always good. |
| 02:26 | i'm contemplating starcraft | |
| 02:26 | 2 | |
| 02:26 | space_librarian_home | that's like... crack cocaine. |
| 02:26 | wizzyrea_ | haha |
| 02:27 | well I used to play wow, so there you go :P | |
| 02:27 | it's like comig off of heroin | |
| 02:27 | space_librarian_home | I don't have enough hours in the day for SC2 |
| 02:27 | rangi | chilts: ask papa about xslt :) |
| 02:27 | space_librarian_home | And I was lucky, WoW never really caught me. Ice Wind Dale and Oblivion did... |
| 02:27 | hehehe | |
| 02:27 | wizzyrea_ | hehe |
| 02:28 | i played wow a lot for a couple of years | |
| 02:28 | papa | and XML for that matter |
| 02:28 | wizzyrea_ | then had a kid and played a lot lot lot less... took breaks for months |
| 02:28 | finished one char to 85 and this last expansion is boooooring | |
| 02:29 | all I have to do is cook and fish, and if you're gonna do that you might as well not play :P | |
| 02:29 | rangi | motorola you dicks |
| 02:29 | space_librarian_home | so I've heard. I always through Warcraft 2 was better than 3... so I didn't bother with the world at all. |
| 02:29 | rangi | the upgrade for the milestone .. i have to do from a stupid windows machine |
| 02:29 | who even has those things | |
| 02:29 | anymore | |
| 02:29 | space_librarian_home | And I love Rangi and Papa's conversation interweaving ours... |
| 02:30 | wizzyrea_ | YES! Same here with my captivate! |
| 02:30 | I'm so annoyed! | |
| 02:30 | space_librarian_home | Want me to bring my windox box in for you, Rangi? |
| 02:30 | * wizzyrea_ | wonders if you can do it in wine :P |
| 02:30 | space_librarian_home | good question |
| 02:31 | chilts | rangi: why, what does he say about it? I've used it in the paste, just don't wanna use it much again (ever) |
| 02:31 | rangi | prolly end up bricking my phone |
| 02:31 | chilts | s/paste/past/ |
| 02:31 | rangi | koha makes use of xslt, to render marcxml |
| 02:31 | chilts | ah, papa is in this channel :) hello papa, long time no squeak :) |
| 02:32 | papa | heh, what brings you here? |
| 02:32 | * chilts | has lurked for a long time |
| 02:32 | papa | tells a lot how busy you are :) |
| 02:33 | chilts | heh |
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| 02:42 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e48f96ce7db71f6e8 |
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| 02:42 | rangi | that doesnt look right to me |
| 02:43 | or i might just need a nap | |
| 02:45 | jcamins_away | That's kind of weird. |
| 02:45 | mtj | core subs() assume correct data |
| 02:46 | rangi | hmm not so much that mtj |
| 02:46 | more why replace spaces with | |
| 02:46 | chilts | rangi: I guess it's just changing the spaces into SQL wildcards |
| 02:46 | rangi | % |
| 02:46 | yeah | |
| 02:46 | chilts | it's a bit strange though |
| 02:46 | jcamins_away | mtj: but why would you want to put a wildcard in between every word? |
| 02:46 | rangi | you'd think you'd get really shitty results |
| 02:46 | chilts | usually they'd only make sense at the start and end |
| 02:46 | rangi | yeah |
| 02:46 | chilts | (of the string) |
| 02:46 | rangi | push @query_params, "%$title%"; |
| 02:46 | chilts | indeed :) |
| 02:46 | mtj | ah, % != & |
| 02:47 | rangi | i think ill skip that one |
| 02:47 | chilts | maybe there was a query where he wanted to match in the middle of two words or something weird |
| 02:47 | rangi | yeah, its not something id push, so ill skip rebasing it for now and talk to the biblibre ppl when they are awake |
| 02:48 | jcamins_away | If the goal is to match all whitespace, the data should be cleaned on import. |
| 02:48 | IMHO. | |
| 02:48 | mtj | looks norty to me too |
| 02:55 | jcamins_away | Good night (again), #koha. |
| 02:56 | rangi | cya jcamins_away |
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| 03:15 | space_librarian_home | namaste kmale |
| 03:15 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 03:16 | Namaste space_librarian | |
| 03:16 | space_librarian_home | kmkale :) |
| 03:16 | An exciting game of cricket tonight? | |
| 03:16 | kmkale | yes. |
| 03:17 | and the next too | |
| 03:17 | space_librarian_home | well... not sure about the next one. |
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| 03:17 | kmkale | either india pak or aus pak will be exiting |
| 03:17 | hi druthb :) | |
| 03:17 | space_librarian_home | but looking foreward to tonight... |
| 03:17 | BoysTown | Hello. I've been advised to seek some advice as to how to change my current git install from 3.03.18 to 3.02.06. I have a kohaclone directory and have run git fetch --tags followed by git reset --hard v3.02.06. The console tells me I'm now on version 3.02.06 - is that all there is to it? |
| 03:17 | space_librarian_home | I think India Pak would be a *very* interesting game. |
| 03:18 | druthb | hi, kmkale! :) |
| 03:18 | kmkale | i am not at all sure that would happen |
| 03:18 | * space_librarian_home | agrees |
| 03:18 | space_librarian_home | but I still give India more of a chance than Aus. |
| 03:19 | kmkale | current form of our boys and the bowling :( |
| 03:19 | space_librarian_home | really? Have you seen Pakistan before last night? |
| 03:19 | kmkale | yes. the way the played australia? |
| 03:19 | space_librarian_home | If they could do that, I'm sure your guys will put on something special |
| 03:20 | yeah, they way they played in Aus... | |
| 03:21 | rangi | BoysTown: its not really safe to do that |
| 03:22 | 3.3.x is master, 3.2.x is on its own branch, they have different database schemas | |
| 03:22 | (not hugely different, but different) | |
| 03:24 | mtj | BoysTown: your code-base has been rewinded, thats good |
| 03:24 | BoysTown | hi rangi, thanks for the reply - is the answer to start from scratch? |
| 03:24 | mtj | but your database has been updated to the unstable branch |
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| 03:25 | AmitG | hi all |
| 03:25 | mtj | and cant easly be un-upgraded |
| 03:25 | AmitG | heya mtj |
| 03:25 | heya chris | |
| 03:26 | mtj | BoysTown: load a 3.2 db backup, and then upgrade to 3.2.5 |
| 03:26 | kmkale | hi rangi |
| 03:26 | hi AmitG | |
| 03:26 | hi mtj | |
| 03:27 | mtj | heya folks |
| 03:27 | AmitG | heya kmkale: today india vs Aus |
| 03:27 | rangi | so while your code is now running 3.2.6 your db is at 3.3.0-18 |
| 03:27 | mtj: thats assuming he has a 3.2 backup | |
| 03:27 | BoysTown: is this a production install? | |
| 03:27 | or one you are just testing with? | |
| 03:27 | * rangi | hopes the later |
| 03:27 | rangi | latter even |
| 03:27 | kmkale | AmitG: yup |
| 03:28 | rangi | if its just a test one, and you dont care about the data, i would drop the db, recreate it, and then the webinsstaller will kick in |
| 03:28 | and once you step through that, you will be running 3.2.6 | |
| 03:28 | BoysTown | hi rangi it is a new install - we were trying to do it quickly so used a virtual appliance - the advice we since received suggests that we should only use the stable version |
| 03:29 | rangi | well for production yes, i recommend people use the stable version |
| 03:29 | BoysTown | ok rangi that sounds like good advice - the db is unpopulated |
| 03:29 | rangi | right, drop the db, and recreate it |
| 03:29 | mtj | indeed, the unstable branch is… sometimes unstable :) |
| 03:29 | BoysTown | brilliant - i appreciate your advice |
| 03:30 | rangi | no worries |
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| 03:30 | mtj | BoysTown: drop and recreate db |
| 03:30 | rangi | hmm do i or mtj lag? |
| 03:31 | BoysTown | ok will do thanks mjt and rangi |
| 03:31 | mtj | … with your code-base set to tag 'v3.02.06' |
| 03:31 | BoysTown | i saw rangi's advice then mtj's in that order - both helpful thanks |
| 03:32 | as far as i know the codebase is set to tag 3.02.03 but i'm a novice with git | |
| 03:32 | mtj | then Koha with create a blank 3.2.6 db for you :) |
| 03:32 | rangi | 06 or 03? |
| 03:32 | wahanui | 7 |
| 03:32 | rangi | heh |
| 03:32 | thanks wahanui | |
| 03:32 | BoysTown | beaut thanks |
| 03:32 | rangi | BoysTown: type git log |
| 03:33 | mtj | bump it to 5 or 6 |
| 03:33 | rangi | whats the latest commit |
| 03:35 | BoysTown | says updating version number to 3.02.06.000 plus a bunch of commit strings |
| 03:35 | mtj | cool, thats good :) |
| 03:36 | BoysTown | ok thanks - I'll snapshot it and drop the db |
| 03:44 | kmkale | can someone please tell me what the -f and -t values for /build_browser_and_cloud.pl for MARC21 are ? |
| 03:46 | rangi | if you run it with -h |
| 03:46 | it will tell you | |
| 03:47 | kmkale | did it shows 676 and 606 in the example like /build_browser_and_cloud.pl -b -f 676a -t 606 -c |
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| 03:47 | rangi | yes did you run it with -h |
| 03:48 | pastebot0 | "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "./misc/cronjobs/build_browser_" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/177 |
| 03:48 | kmkale | yes |
| 03:48 | rangi | well it tells you |
| 03:48 | -b to run in batch mode, without any output | |
| 03:48 | -f TTTs to define the MARC tag/subfield to use for building nav (676a in UNIMARC for d etc | |
| 03:49 | kmkale | just correct me if I am wring. for marc21 -f 082a and -t 654 |
| 03:49 | s/wring/wrong | |
| 03:49 | rangi | are u running unimarc? |
| 03:50 | kmkale | no marc21 |
| 03:51 | rangi | im not sure this works with marc21 |
| 03:52 | kmkale | ahh. |
| 03:52 | would be cool if it did. :) | |
| 03:52 | rangi | i could be wrong though |
| 03:53 | lemme check the sysprefs | |
| 03:54 | does it create any useful stuff when you run it with 082a and 654 ? | |
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| 03:58 | * rangi | heads for home |
| 03:59 | * sekjal | heads for bed |
| 03:59 | kmkale_ | aww sorry my net dropped off mid conversation |
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| 06:48 | AmitG | hi |
| 06:48 | indradg | |
| 06:48 | bg | hi AmitG |
| 06:49 | * bg | = brendan :) |
| 06:49 | indradg | hey AmitG :) |
| 06:49 | bg | AmitG - congrats!!! on the wedding |
| 06:50 | AmitG | thanx |
| 06:50 | brendan | |
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| 06:56 | cait | morning #koha |
| 06:57 | bg | morning cait |
| 06:59 | AmitG | heya cait |
| 07:04 | cait | hi bg and AmitG |
| 07:07 | rangi | heya cait AmitG and bg |
| 07:07 | bg | heya rangi :) |
| 07:08 | cait | hi rangi |
| 07:12 | bbl | |
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| 07:27 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5919: Display MARC21 fields 583, 586, 530 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35284e6949dd8dcaa> / Bug 3098 follow-up: Clean up formatting <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5701bd300abd6735> |
| 07:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 76 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 07:41 | rangi | wanna see something cool |
| 07:41 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]l#author_of_month | |
| 07:41 | 30 different people have committed code to koha this month | |
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| 08:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #76: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/76/ |
| 08:09 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 3098 follow-up: Clean up formatting | |
| 08:09 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 5919: Display MARC21 fields 583, 586, 530 | |
| 08:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3098 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, REOPENED, XSLT stylesheet does not obey OPACURLOpenInNewWindow syspref |
| 08:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5919 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED, MARC21 fields 583 and 586 should display in OPAC Details | |
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| 08:15 | francharb | hi all |
| 08:17 | magnuse | hiya francharb |
| 08:17 | kmkale | hiya magnuse |
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| 08:19 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:20 | kmkale | hi kf :) |
| 08:20 | magnuse: got a min? | |
| 08:20 | magnuse | kmkale: yup! |
| 08:29 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
| 08:29 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -5.0�C (9:20 AM CET on March 24, 2011). Conditions: Heavy Snow Showers. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:30 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 08:30 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0�C (9:00 AM CET on March 24, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:30 | magnuse | hm... |
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| 08:37 | kmkale | hi paul_p |
| 08:37 | paul_p | hi kmkale |
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| 09:06 | kf_mtg | paul_p: flights to marseille booked :) |
| 09:07 | paul_p | kf_mtg, wondeful ! |
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| 09:11 | veera | hi |
| 09:11 | wahanui | what's up, veera |
| 09:11 | veera | how are you |
| 09:11 | wahanui | |
| 09:11 | wahanui | veera? |
| 09:11 | veera | how can I add new syntax |
| 09:11 | which is not there in the list | |
| 09:12 | z39 serach syntax | |
| 09:12 | I trying to add british library syntax | |
| 09:12 | but the existing syntax is not showing the British librayr one | |
| 09:13 | wahanui | |
| 09:13 | wahanui | veera? |
| 09:13 | veera | ya |
| 09:13 | kmkale | veera: wahanui is a bot |
| 09:13 | wahanui | i already had it that way, kmkale. |
| 09:13 | veera | will u able to help me |
| 09:13 | how | |
| 09:14 | kmkale will u able to help me | |
| 09:14 | kmkale | no veera never tried that |
| 09:15 | veera | whaanui |
| 09:15 | r u there | |
| 09:15 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 77 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:15 | kmkale | veera: its a irc bot. not a person |
| 09:15 | veera | ok ok |
| 09:16 | is any one can help me | |
| 09:16 | ? | |
| 09:17 | kf | veera: you can add new z39.50 clients via administration > z39.50 targets |
| 09:18 | veera | ya |
| 09:18 | but the syntax is not listed admin | |
| 09:18 | I need to add syntax | |
| 09:18 | kf | what do you mean by syntax? |
| 09:19 | veera | when I add new source there is one option |
| 09:19 | like USMARC like that | |
| 09:19 | in tthat dropdown list | |
| 09:19 | I need to add a new syntax | |
| 09:20 | kf | |
| 09:20 | can you help me | |
| 09:20 | kf | sorry, veera, I don't understand |
| 09:20 | veera | can I explain my need? |
| 09:20 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5944 : (MT #3000) new cronjob script to delete old suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35bf7e48f493d8c22> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5880' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4a2b4de0bbf12838d> / Bug 5880: Correct misleading pod in new subroutine <http://git.koha-community.org/gitw |
| 09:21 | kf | sorry veera, I have a meeting now |
| 09:21 | veera | ok |
| 09:21 | kf | you can also try to describe your problem on the mailing list |
| 09:21 | the more details the better | |
| 09:21 | veera | ok |
| 09:22 | hi higinn | |
| 09:22 | huggin | |
| 09:22 | ? | |
| 09:22 | R u there | |
| 09:22 | kf | huginn is a bot too veera, not a person |
| 09:22 | huginn | kf: I suck |
| 09:22 | kf | like wahanui |
| 09:22 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 09:22 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 10.0�C (10:00 AM CET on March 24, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 30.56 in 1035 hPa (Rising). |
| 09:23 | kf | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 09:23 | wahanui | :) |
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| 09:43 | AmitG | heya kf |
| 09:46 | pastebot0 | "magnuse" at 95.34.212.148 pasted "i get lots of errors when i try to install a new translation - any translation wizards have an idea why?" (26 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/181 |
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| 09:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #77: SUCCESS in 39 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/77/ |
| 09:54 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 5880: Correct misleading pod in new subroutine | |
| 09:54 | * Henri-Damien LAURENT: Bug 5944 : (MT #3000) new cronjob script to delete old suggestions | |
| 09:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5880 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, C4/Koha.pm : adding two functions GetAutorisedValueByCode and GetKohaImageurlFromAuthorisedValues |
| 09:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5944 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, Acquisitions: new cronjob script to delete old suggestions | |
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| 10:18 | magnuse | kmkale: what's the state of Bug 5401? is it oleonard's patch that is the one that needs sign off? |
| 10:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5401 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED, WYSWYG for Koha News |
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| 10:18 | druthb | o/ |
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| 10:19 | Gana | hi all |
| 10:20 | magnuse | \o |
| 10:21 | Gana | can i delete my imported marc files in koha? |
| 10:21 | can i delete my imported marc records in koha? | |
| 10:22 | i wanna to use empty catalog information start on koha ? | |
| 10:22 | magnuse | Gana: did you import them with the "Stage marc records" tool? |
| 10:23 | Gana | yes |
| 10:24 | magnuse | Gana: then you can "undo your import by clicking the 'Undo import into catalog' button", according to http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x6009 |
| 10:26 | Gana | thanks. |
| 10:28 | magnuse ! do you know about how can we import Alice patrons to Koha ? | |
| 10:29 | magnuse | Gana: sorry, i have no experience with Alice, but there is a general description of how to import patrons here: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x6141 |
| 10:30 | Gana | okay |
| 10:32 | magnuse: Undo import into catalog is very slow working on my server. can i use any commands for mysql database of koha. | |
| 10:35 | magnuse | Gana: you will find some tips here, i think: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ce-td3061199.html |
| 10:39 | Gana | i see. |
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| 10:49 | magnuse | kia ora sekjal! |
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| 11:08 | kmkale | magnuse: sorry got stuck in a meeting |
| 11:11 | for that bug if either of the patches gets pushed, it will be a good addition imho.. | |
| 11:12 | magnuse | ok, thanks |
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| 11:52 | kf | hi francharb |
| 11:52 | question: what can I do when a library deleted an on order item and record? | |
| 11:53 | I have an empty line now on my receive screen for that title and in the order it's missing completely | |
| 11:53 | someone a good idea about this? | |
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| 12:02 | jwagner | kf, I take it that's another place where Koha doesn't check for links before allowing deletion? |
| 12:03 | kf | jwagner: hm no |
| 12:04 | jwagner: it's a data problem really. deleting it is ok. but the order should keep the information. | |
| 12:04 | jwagner | That would be the only effective fix. Otherwise warning staff to check for links is about it, I think |
| 12:04 | kf | you will always delete things - the acquisition should not loose the title. perhaps look for the title in deleted... if it does not find something in the normal tables |
| 12:05 | but what would staff do in this case? they don't want to delete fromt he order | |
| 12:06 | jwagner | Hmm. Copy at least the title into a field in the acq order table? |
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| 12:11 | kf | jwagner: not very clean |
| 12:11 | funny thing is | |
| 12:11 | a lot of things look really good, like the basket | |
| 12:11 | it shows a note that the title was deleted - which is nice | |
| 12:11 | not perfect, but nice | |
| 12:11 | :) | |
| 12:12 | and receive shipment shows still the title | |
| 12:12 | not sure how, but it does | |
| 12:12 | jwagner | magic :-) |
| 12:12 | kf | when you click on the date there to get a list what was received on that date - that's empty |
| 12:12 | kind of :) or it checks the right tables, becasue thte information is still in the database | |
| 12:14 | JesseM | gmorning #Koha |
| 12:18 | kf | hi JesseM |
| 12:18 | JesseM | hi! kf |
| 12:20 | kf | :) |
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| 12:54 | schuster | installed php on my play laptop and broke my koha install rrr.... back to the setup there! oh well learning curve again! |
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| 13:17 | magnus_away | a swedish library is testing public news items for the OPAC. In MS IE they don't show up, unless they change that language to english and then back to swedish. anyone seen something similar? |
| 13:17 | s/that language/the language/ | |
| 13:19 | kf | yep |
| 13:19 | same here | |
| 13:19 | I have no idea why | |
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| 13:21 | magnuse | a ha, so it's not just us then ;-) |
| 13:21 | is there a bug for it? | |
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| 14:00 | gmcharlt | magnuse: bug and patch coming in a sec |
| 14:02 | magnuse | gmcharlt: wow?!? |
| 14:03 | :-) | |
| 14:16 | pastebot | "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "hack for the OPAC news problem" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/182 |
| 14:16 | gmcharlt | magnuse: could you try out that diff ^^ ? |
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| 14:18 | magnuse | will do! |
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| 14:21 | gmcharlt | also, are there sub-locales of Swedish that are in common use, or is it all sw-SW (or whatever the code actually is) |
| 14:23 | magnuse | gmcharlt: Firefox lists sv-se and sv-fi (presumably the swedish spoken in finland) |
| 14:23 | gmcharlt | magnuse: though so |
| 14:24 | one of the underlying issues is that FF and IE report the browser language slightly differently | |
| 14:26 | magnuse | gmcharlt: i applied your change, set FF to prefer sv-se and now i don't see the news at all, no matter how many times i change between the languages... see for yourself here: http://munkagard.bibkat.no/ |
| 14:27 | gmcharlt | magnuse: ah, I was afraid of that |
| 14:27 | as a workaround, what you can do in the database is add duplicate entries in opac_news | |
| 14:27 | magnuse | removed the change to opac/opac-main.pl and now the news displays again, when i choose swedish |
| 14:28 | gmcharlt | i.e., three copies of each news item |
| 14:28 | magnuse | 3? |
| 14:28 | gmcharlt | setting lang to 'sv', 'sv-se', and 'sv-fi' respectively |
| 14:28 | magnuse | ah |
| 14:29 | sv-fi is not really an issue here i think | |
| 14:30 | the news tool only lets me choose en, sv-se though... | |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | @later tell kf I have a question for you re: 3M when you have a minute |
| 14:35 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:42 | gmcharlt | magnuse: yep, hence why the work-around may have to be done in the DB |
| 14:42 | to add 'sv' entries that are copies of the 'sv-se' entries | |
| 14:44 | magnuse | gmcharlt: i think one part of the problem is related to sv versus sv-se. if you have your browser set to prefer sv-se it works, bot not if you have it set to just sv. another part of the problem is related to Bug 2562 (if we could set sv-se as the default is would work for browsers that have just sv) |
| 14:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2562 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, SYSPREFS: 'languages' and 'opaclanguages' sysprefs *dont* set default languages |
| 14:45 | kf | wizzyrea: I am here now :) |
| 14:48 | magnuse | gmcharlt: your quick fix had $news_lang =~ s/-.*$//; doesn't that turn sv-se into just se, which will not be found in the db? maybe it would work if we searched the db for 'sv%' as well? |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | kf: do you use special handling slips with your 3M self checks? |
| 14:48 | gmcharlt | magnuse: it turns 'sv-se' into 'sv', but yes, that wouldn't be found in the database |
| 14:48 | kf | wizzyrea: I think not |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | k good, I was hoping we were not reinventing the wheel by asking support for them to be added :) |
| 14:49 | gmcharlt | changing it to search on 'sv%' would solve the immediate problem for you, but would still be a bit of a hack |
| 14:49 | kf | all we have is checkout and checkin slips |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea: we still have the holds problem | |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | which holds problem? |
| 14:50 | gmcharlt | one thing I'm curious about is if there are cases where a Koha catalog that has both 'xx-AA' and 'xx-BB' installed |
| 14:50 | * wizzyrea | has so many "holds problems" that she can't keep them straight |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 14:50 | kf | reserved books checked in - status is not waiting |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | OH yes |
| 14:50 | what version are you on? | |
| 14:50 | gmcharlt | would mostly prefer to enter news as 'xx' that applies to both |
| 14:50 | kf | people can get it from returns cart and checkout again |
| 14:50 | 3.2.2 | |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | we have a ticket in for that I think |
| 14:50 | gmcharlt | or if they'd expect it to not default that way |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | and we're willing to put money towards it |
| 14:51 | it's still a problem in 3.3 | |
| 14:51 | sec, i'm gonna pm you something | |
| 14:51 | magnuse | gmcharlt: yeah, guess sv% would be a hack. looks to me like being able to set a default language for the opac could be a better solution |
| 14:51 | gmcharlt | probably the rule should be something like (1) show news that is tagged with the specifically localization (2) also show news that is tagged with the general language and (3) enhance the OPAC news tool slightly so that you can specify either a general or specific localization |
| 14:52 | setting a default OPAC language would also be useful, but wouldn't be sufficient | |
| 14:53 | magnuse | gmcharlt: that would work too, i guess |
| 14:57 | yeah, the main point is that browsers set to sv and sv-se should all see the same news. | |
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| 15:00 | magnuse | but on a related note, browsers set to nb-no should not see the opac as nb-no when that is not even activated for that opac, as described in bug 2562 - they should see some default language set by the library, i think... |
| 15:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2562 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, SYSPREFS: 'languages' and 'opaclanguages' sysprefs *dont* set default languages |
| 15:00 | magnuse | oh well, gotta run! |
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| 15:01 | druthb | fun_with_css-- |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | O.O |
| 15:02 | druthb | http://l1.load.bywatersolutions.com |
| 15:02 | wizzyrea | I like those colors though |
| 15:02 | druthb | It has a certain gravitas that I like, and I think it'll be nice for a medical research library. |
| 15:03 | * wizzyrea | just had a radical thought... brb |
| 15:03 | druthb | The shadings and such on hitlist and detail pages are a little dark for my taste, but They Are The The Ones Paying... |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | mmm yea if it's only 2 shades lighter than the text behind it... |
| 15:04 | druthb | When they see it, they may wanna lighten up a couple of notches. |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | I er, never liked it that relevant text was grey on white |
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| 15:14 | rhcl | ah, and educated poster! I'm quite fond of saying a popular US political figure lacks gravitas and has questionable veritas for president |
| 15:21 | druthb | gravitas, like hard liquor, is best in small quantities. Too much of it can wipe you out at an early age. |
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| 17:57 | rangi | morning |
| 17:57 | druthb | hi, rangi. |
| 17:58 | magnuse | ata marie, rangi |
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| 18:44 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:46 | magnuse | guten abend cait |
| 18:47 | cait | hi magnus |
| 18:47 | magnuse | someone told me Foxton was the very first library to actually use koha, can anyone confirm that? |
| 18:48 | rangi | no |
| 18:48 | who told you that? | |
| 18:48 | levin was | |
| 18:48 | foxton is of course part of HTL | |
| 18:48 | HLT even | |
| 18:48 | so would have been about the same time | |
| 18:48 | wizzyrea | oh that's interesting |
| 18:48 | when using parameters | |
| 18:49 | you can't page through the results of a saved report | |
| 18:49 | rangi | but the first returns in the live system where done at levin |
| 18:50 | magnuse | ok thanks rangi, i don't remember where i heard it... just want to get my details right when i'm pitching koha tomorrow morning |
| 18:50 | rangi | first issue was too |
| 18:50 | just say HLT | |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | SELECT items.itype,items.dateaccessioned,items.itemcallnumber,items.barcode,biblio.title,biblio.copyrightdate FROM items LEFT JOIN biblioitems on (items.biblioitemnumber=biblioitems.biblioitemnumber) LEFT JOIN biblio on (biblioitems.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber) WHERE items.itype=<<Item type to find|itemtypes>> and items.homebranch=<<Enter Branch|branches>> ORDER BY items.dateaccessioned asc |
| 18:50 | rangi | :) |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | can anyone get that to page the results correctly? |
| 18:51 | rangi | its one library system, foxton is a branch, levin is a branch |
| 18:51 | shannon and tokomaru are the other 2 | |
| 18:51 | but the first book to be issued in the live koha was at the levin branch | |
| 18:51 | it was done by Leonard | |
| 18:51 | * rangi | is looking at the statistics table now |
| 18:51 | mtj | morning all |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 18:51 | hey mtf | |
| 18:51 | magnuse | hehe, and what time was it? |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | mtj* |
| 18:52 | magnuse | kia ora mtj! |
| 18:52 | rangi | 9:10:10 |
| 18:52 | cait | wizzyrea: there is also a bug with group by killing the paging |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 18:53 | mtj | wizzyrea: mtf? wtf! :) |
| 18:53 | cait | bug 3315 |
| 18:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3315 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Aggregate SQL clauses break pagination in guided reports |
| 18:54 | rangi | theres no group by in that sql tho cait? |
| 18:54 | magnuse | thanks rangi! ;-) (i was thinking of maybe sneaking this in: http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/5205479118/ and it would have been perfect if foxton was *the* first... but i'll make it fit somehow) |
| 18:54 | rangi | magnuse: cant tell you the book, its been deleted |
| 18:55 | :) | |
| 18:55 | magnuse | rangi: oh no, that's too bad! ;-) |
| 18:55 | rangi | it was probably the 2nd |
| 18:55 | wizzyrea | no, what it does is when you click next page |
| 18:55 | rangi | its the 2nd biggest of the branches |
| 18:55 | wizzyrea | it wants to run the report again |
| 18:55 | rangi | magnuse: 4459026 issues |
| 18:56 | 5120503 returns | |
| 18:56 | 367517 renewals | |
| 18:56 | as of right now :) | |
| 18:56 | cait | rangi: you are right |
| 18:57 | but perhaps there are more things breaking it? | |
| 18:57 | * rangi | is the king of useless stats |
| 18:57 | rangi | wizzyrea: i think it always runs the report again |
| 18:57 | with a different limit clause, i dont think it loads the whole report into js and pages over it that way | |
| 18:58 | that would kill most browsers | |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | true |
| 18:58 | magnuse | useless_stats++ |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | but in this case, it doesn't bring back the 2nd page |
| 18:58 | it puts you back at the 1st page | |
| 18:58 | http://screencast.com/t/VFM4Cx0VtHpU | |
| 18:58 | rangi | right, so the limit is not right |
| 18:58 | * rangi | has to catch bus will look when im at my desk |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | thx... I"m going to go ahead and file a bug |
| 19:02 | * magnuse | tries not to think about why HLT has 661477 more returns than issues... |
| 19:03 | rangi | just made it |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | no need to file a bug: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5793 |
| 19:03 | huginn | 04Bug 5793: normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, parameters in guided reports are lost when changing result page |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | not the description I would have used, but eh |
| 19:03 | rangi | bus coming round corner as I walked out the door |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | at least the dupe finder found it |
| 19:03 | rangi | magnuse: transfers |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea | I love the dupe finder |
| 19:04 | magnuse | dupe_finder++ |
| 19:04 | rangi | you end a transfer by doing a return |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | dupe_finder++ |
| 19:04 | rangi | thus more returns |
| 19:04 | magnuse | rangi: ah thanks, i'll sleep easy tonight now... ;-) |
| 19:12 | * wizzyrea | idly wonders if a return that does nothing but a transfer should be classified as such |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | but sometimes it does both, so would it mark it'self twice, once for return, and once for transfer? |
| 19:13 | cait | would be nice for statistics |
| 19:13 | hm. right | |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | itself with no ' of course |
| 19:13 | stupid fingers. | |
| 19:13 | sekjal_away is now known as sekjal | |
| 19:20 | rangi | they could also be just returns for the sake of it |
| 19:20 | often when librarians clean up | |
| 19:20 | they run all the books left lying through returns | |
| 19:20 | catches holds etc | |
| 19:22 | if theres a mad scheme | |
| 19:22 | a library somewhere will be doing it | |
| 19:22 | except madder | |
| 19:22 | I may get that on my tombstone | |
| 19:29 | magnuse | hehe |
| 19:29 | cait | world would be boring without mad schemes :) |
| 19:30 | magnuse | does a return on a not-for-loan item make it into the stats then? |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | mhm |
| 19:31 | well | |
| 19:31 | there's a difference between a return that does something | |
| 19:31 | and a return that doesn't | |
| 19:31 | if it says "not checked out" | |
| 19:31 | does it count that as a return? | |
| 19:31 | this is really complicated, lol | |
| 19:33 | magnuse | it is! |
| 19:33 | and of course anything to do with libraries will be far removed from things like reason and common sense ;-) | |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
| 19:35 | a return should probably note itself with a double field: return - transit, return - not checked out, return - checkin only | |
| 19:36 | that's stupid. Just don't bother with return stats :P | |
| 19:36 | there, problem solved | |
| 19:36 | ^.^ | |
| 19:36 | magnuse | yay! |
| 19:36 | rangi | yeah, do people actually bother with return stats? |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | well I know we did, before we realized it was counting every time they scanned something |
| 19:37 | but I think we only count issues now | |
| 19:38 | rangi | i just like to see them to know how busy the system is |
| 19:38 | but it isnt really useful for much else | |
| 19:39 | (its not everytime the scan someting btw, its everytime they go to check in and check something in :)) | |
| 19:39 | at least thats what the statiscts table counts | |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | so it doesn't count a return if it says "not checked out?" |
| 19:39 | rangi | it didnt used to |
| 19:40 | wizzyrea | (that's what I mean by "every time they scan an item") cool, that's really good to know. |
| 19:40 | rangi | it may well do now |
| 19:40 | because there was a bug when it wasnt checking for holds if it wasnt out | |
| 19:40 | in fixing that, it might now count the return | |
| 19:40 | 2 secs ill find out for you | |
| 19:41 | magnuse | nope, not even the crazy stats collected from norwegian libraries count returns, only issues |
| 19:41 | rangi | yeah i cant imagine it would be a useful stat from a librarians point of view |
| 19:41 | but like i say .. mad .. except madder :-) | |
| 19:41 | magnuse | :~) |
| 19:42 | ooh, "make test" is taking like forever now... | |
| 19:42 | rangi | good : |
| 19:42 | ) | |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea: nope it will updatestats if its not on loan | |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea: it would be a really really easy patch | |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | that's also a good thing to know |
| 19:44 | rangi | look at C4/Circulation.pm line 1583 |
| 19:44 | then at line 1473 | |
| 19:45 | see how we set the $doreturn=0; | |
| 19:45 | if we did an updatestats call in that if, and set it to returnednotout | |
| 19:46 | then did | |
| 19:46 | if ($doreturn) { | |
| 19:46 | updatestats 'return' | |
| 19:46 | down at the bottom of that sub | |
| 19:46 | we would only log stats for those returned, and we would get stats for those returned that werent out | |
| 19:47 | now, if you feel so moved, its over to you :) | |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | :) I might feel moved. I strongly feel it should not count returns that say "not checked out" |
| 19:50 | rangi | yep, while you are in that sub you can see if there are other things it should count separately (or as well) too |
| 19:51 | magnuse | go wizzyrea go! |
| 19:52 | wizzyrea | separately, have any of you looked at the gnome3 beta? |
| 19:52 | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]f/~3/WI0UySeZRxg/ | |
| 19:55 | rangi | not me |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | I didn't expect that you would have :) |
| 19:55 | rangi | :) |
| 19:55 | * wizzyrea | is a pleb... I like my puter to be purty. |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | another aside: i love the word pleb. |
| 19:56 | rangi | i like mine to be fast |
| 19:56 | wizzyrea | purty + fast enough is fine by me |
| 19:58 | rangi | ull change .... they all do |
| 19:58 | :) | |
| 19:58 | building packages will make you want a faster machine | |
| 19:58 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:59 | magnuse | rangi: is there a distro you can recommend? |
| 19:59 | rangi | for a desktop? server? netbook? |
| 20:01 | mtj | gnome3 looks nicer, thats good - i just hope its not slow/bloaty |
| 20:02 | magnuse | rangi: i was thinking desktop or laptop |
| 20:02 | * ibeardslee | has been playing with Ubuntu Natty .. not sure that I like that unity interface |
| 20:02 | rangi | debian squeeze or sid |
| 20:02 | and xmonad (or bluetile) as a window manager | |
| 20:02 | magnuse | ah, might have thought as much... ;-) |
| 20:03 | * ibeardslee | would suggest ubuntu |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | i have ubuntu 10 on my macbook: it runs quite well now that I've worked through the initial annoyances |
| 20:03 | I hardly even notice that it's linux... which is a first: usually I"m keenly aware | |
| 20:03 | rangi | the reason i say debian, is all the koha dependencies are packaged, and under debian security team watch |
| 20:04 | whereas in ubuntu, they are out in the unsupported universe (or a lot of them are) | |
| 20:05 | which is ok, as long as you remember to keep an eye on the debian security list yourself | |
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| 20:05 | ibeardslee | and that'd be a very good reason to run debian on the server |
| 20:06 | and it makes some sense to to run the same thing on the workstation | |
| 20:06 | rangi | yup, and i try to run the same so i can test on my desktop, but if you run your test/dev machine as a vm then yeah ubuntu would be fine |
| 20:06 | but yeah, a .deb based distro of some sort :-) | |
| 20:06 | having said that | |
| 20:06 | i run meego on my netbook | |
| 20:06 | and like it a lot | |
| 20:07 | but its just a webbrowser and an xterm anyway ;) | |
| 20:07 | * ibeardslee | has ubuntu on his netbook |
| 20:07 | rangi | i used to |
| 20:07 | but yeah, i didnt like unity either :) | |
| 20:07 | ubuntu netbook remix | |
| 20:07 | thats what i was running | |
| 20:09 | ibeardslee | same |
| 20:10 | rangi | http://www.halfarsedagilemanifesto.org/ |
| 20:10 | ibeardslee | I do wonder if the not liking unity is just getting old and not liking change |
| 20:10 | rangi | could be |
| 20:10 | its probably why i like xmonad | |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | I like it >.> |
| 20:13 | rangi | LBA: gotta watch out for the bcc's thats why reply all to beatrice didnt work, she had bcced the list |
| 20:14 | (which is a really odd thing to do) | |
| 20:14 | But | |
| 20:14 | http://twitter.com/ranginui/st[…]51008167383019520 | |
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| 20:14 | wizzyrea | I have a feeling you'll be pulling that tweet out a lot lol |
| 20:14 | magnuse | re-tweeted! |
| 20:14 | rangi | i will :) |
| 20:16 | magnuse | huh, my newest dev install has some weirdness, e.g. no images for item types... would that be an error during the make/make install phase? |
| 20:16 | rangi | seems unlikely, do the images exist? |
| 20:16 | mtj | "friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" |
| 20:17 | thats my one... | |
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| 20:18 | mtj | i wonder who did create the MARC format? |
| 20:18 | rangi | @quote get 121 |
| 20:18 | huginn | rangi: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011) |
| 20:19 | mtj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henriette_Avram |
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| 20:19 | wizzyrea | hi jo :) |
| 20:19 | cait | hi jo :) |
| 20:19 | rangi | heya jransom |
| 20:19 | wahanui | somebody said jransom was so pleased! |
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| 20:20 | magnuse | kia ora jransom! |
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| 20:21 | jransom | hi everyone |
| 20:21 | mtj | aaaw, i take that back - Henriette sounds like a nice lady |
| 20:26 | magnuse | ok, that problem with the images was indicative of some shortcoming in my normarc work - it still has a ways to go... |
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| 20:29 | jransom | ranginui: can you text si and tell him I am on irc now please (no cellphone today) |
| 20:29 | rangi | hmm i hope i have his new number |
| 20:30 | sijobl: jransom is on irc now! :) | |
| 20:30 | jransom | I thight be logged in but not here really |
| 20:30 | i have his new number | |
| 20:31 | rangi | message it to me cos i dont :) |
| 20:31 | jransom | nope - i don't. its in my phone .... |
| 20:31 | i'll phone him at home | |
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| 20:48 | cait | rangi++ |
| 20:49 | rangi | ? |
| 20:49 | cait | acq branch this time :) |
| 20:49 | but there are a lot of reasons of course | |
| 20:49 | rangi | ah right |
| 20:51 | * cait | is making a lit of things she wants to do before april 1st |
| 20:52 | cait | s/lit/list |
| 20:52 | rangi | excellent :) |
| 20:53 | cait | yeah, only that the list is too long :) |
| 20:54 | we can sign-off on things after april 1st, right? but everything has to be submitted until then? | |
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| 20:57 | rangi | thats right |
| 20:57 | you have until the 8th to sign stuff off | |
| 20:57 | (new features stuff) | |
| 20:58 | but no more new features submitted after the 1st | |
| 20:58 | cait | ok |
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| 21:05 | cait | wizzyrea: still around? |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | yesm |
| 21:06 | cait | what do you think about showing the codes in the cataoging screen? |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | which codes (sorry to be dense) |
| 21:06 | cait | talking about the pull downs in the items thing |
| 21:06 | no, my fault | |
| 21:07 | I had a librarian complain about it | |
| 21:07 | I think ti shows the codes for some of the authorized values now before the descripption in the pull down list | |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | you mean the thing where it shows the first authorized value? yes |
| 21:07 | it's annoying | |
| 21:07 | cait | ok |
| 21:07 | wizzyrea | it should be empty unless it's set to something |
| 21:07 | cait | so you don't like it |
| 21:07 | ? | |
| 21:07 | hm, no, talking about smething different | |
| 21:07 | rangi | you are talking abour different things |
| 21:08 | cait | yep |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | oh |
| 21:08 | rangi | yeah what she said ;) |
| 21:08 | cait | sorry, was looking at some mails from my libraries, figuring out what I can do for them :) |
| 21:08 | it shows the authorized value codes now in the add items scree | |
| 21:08 | n | |
| 21:08 | * wizzyrea | is confused >.< (no surprise though) |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | right |
| 21:08 | cait | and the question I had was if you like it :) |
| 21:08 | rangi | the code and the description right cait? |
| 21:08 | cait | yes |
| 21:09 | because my library didn't | |
| 21:09 | and it's not showing for all fields | |
| 21:09 | and I have no koha I can access on this laptop #fail | |
| 21:09 | * wizzyrea | is looking at add items |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | un mo |
| 21:12 | * druthb | would install a couple of Koha servers for you on your lappy, cait, but you'll have to bring it here to me. |
| 21:12 | tempts you with monuments, good food, and all the Kohas on your lappy that it'll handle. | |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | I don't know if this is just the way our authorized values are set up or I'm just dense (more likely) I don't see what you're referring to cait... sorry |
| 21:14 | rangi | cait: visit in june, then we can hang out too |
| 21:14 | :) | |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | http://screencast.com/t/lmGT4xcDMzK is what I'm looking at |
| 21:14 | cait | druthb: it is tempting... :) |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | is that not the right place? |
| 21:15 | cait | rangi: that's not fair! :) |
| 21:15 | below | |
| 21:15 | the pull downs | |
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| 21:15 | wizzyrea | so this http://screencast.com/t/vcDT1pNl8 |
| 21:15 | cait | wizzyrea: you are great :) |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 21:16 | does it show codes for you for collection, shelving location or itemtype? | |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | oh, codes vs description? |
| 21:16 | now I get it I think >.< | |
| 21:16 | lol | |
| 21:17 | cait | rangi: you will be in washington in june? |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | descriptions, I believe we like it that way |
| 21:17 | cait | only descriptions without codes? or with codes? |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | without codes |
| 21:17 | cait | ok |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | sorry, I know that was painful |
| 21:17 | lol | |
| 21:17 | cait | do you see the codes in your installation? or is it our 3.2.2? |
| 21:17 | rangi | new orleans, with druthb and nengard and bg and sekjal and natec and and |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | there are no codes in my install, only descriptions |
| 21:17 | cait | hmpf |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | you could put the code in the description if you wanted to see both >.> |
| 21:18 | cait | I will have to check where that comes from tomorrow - sorry :( |
| 21:18 | no, we don't want to see them, they showed up after our upgrade | |
| 21:18 | thought it was a new feature | |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | oof |
| 21:18 | hrm | |
| 21:18 | rhcl | is there a conference in NOLA? |
| 21:18 | cait | it shows CODE description |
| 21:18 | rangi: which conference is that? | |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | and it's not like that in the authorized value description? |
| 21:19 | (surely not if it just appeared one day) | |
| 21:19 | suppose we could look at one of the 3.2 demos | |
| 21:19 | cait | I am getting the other laptop ready |
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| 21:21 | cait | werid |
| 21:21 | weird | |
| 21:21 | rangi | ALA |
| 21:21 | cait | wizzyrea: sorry for stealing your time - it's not there |
| 21:21 | rangi | ALA annual |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | I don't mind at all cait |
| 21:22 | cait | either it's a problem with our installation or a 3.2.2 thing |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | I've done the same many times :) |
| 21:22 | cait | will check tomorow |
| 21:22 | rangi | apparently it is |
| 21:22 | THE WORLD'S LARGEST & MOST DYNAMIC LIBRARY CONFERENCE & EXHIBITION | |
| 21:22 | http://www.alaannual.org/ | |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | "look at this annoying thing! .... o crap it's just me" |
| 21:22 | but how else would you know? | |
| 21:22 | cait | hehe |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 21:22 | schuster | ALA Annual is in New Orleans this June. |
| 21:23 | rangi | im going to try and stand as still as possible |
| 21:23 | cait | do you have a presentation? or only going for the mad schemes? :) |
| 21:23 | rangi | to make them liars |
| 21:23 | cait | lol |
| 21:23 | schuster | Watch out the librarians will just run you over... Especially in the exhibits stand aside... |
| 21:23 | jransom | rangi: are you going to do a presntation? |
| 21:23 | rangi | get out my way, wheres my free stuff |
| 21:23 | nope jransom | |
| 21:23 | * wizzyrea | is still scheming to go to ala, if only to bring rangi beer (since you can't [aside, worst law ever] ship beer out of kansas) |
| 21:24 | schuster | rangi pretty much. |
| 21:24 | I'm still hopeful that I will get to buy him a beer... ;) | |
| 21:24 | rangi | but we will doing lots of hacking in the evenigns |
| 21:24 | schuster | I'll be there! |
| 21:24 | rhcl | Oh yea, I was supposed to apply for some grant money for that |
| 21:25 | cait | rangi: you go there for hacking? |
| 21:25 | temptation reaches a critical value... | |
| 21:25 | rhcl | Ah Ha! found the paperwork. Amazing |
| 21:26 | rangi: are you going to be at the preconference on 24 June? | |
| 21:26 | rangi | yep thats the plan for the evenings, bywater are having me come over ill be helping them in the exhibition hall during the day, and we will be coding during hte evenings |
| 21:26 | i think so, ill defer to bg on that, i think so tho | |
| 21:27 | i think gmcharlt was thinking to do something in one of the LITA sessions? | |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | oh no, if cait comes... |
| 21:27 | gmcharlt | rangi: yes, if available |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | i might have to go >.< |
| 21:27 | rangi | 23-29 |
| 21:28 | arriving in NOLA on the 23rd | |
| 21:28 | cait | wizzyrea: ? |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | if you come to the US in june, I might have to meet you in NOLA |
| 21:28 | :) | |
| 21:29 | * wizzyrea | has never been to ALA |
| 21:29 | * rangi | either |
| 21:29 | rangi | :) |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | well but I don't have a 14000km excuse :P |
| 21:30 | maybe not that far... dangit now I have to look it up | |
| 21:30 | cait | hehe |
| 21:30 | rangi | there is a gaming pavilion??? |
| 21:30 | cait | was going to ask you if you did look it up |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | 12535 |
| 21:31 | km | |
| 21:31 | rangi | close |
| 21:31 | schuster | I'm on a couple of ALA Committees so need to go otherwise generally couldn't afford it. I'll be there the 24th through the 27th. Would love to know if it is an open hack fest! |
| 21:31 | rhcl | is Equinox doing this talk: Open Source Integrated Library Systems in Consortia |
| 21:31 | http://alaannual.org/content/d[…]-and-technologies | |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | 12741 to very near here |
| 21:32 | schuster | That is a panel discussion of open source users - SCLS is on it I believe and bibliomation? and the Colorado group I think. Valerie Horton is putting that together. |
| 21:32 | rangi | schuster: have a chat with brendan and nat |
| 21:32 | nate even | |
| 21:33 | schuster | I don't want to intrude when they are paying!! Thanks |
| 21:33 | rhcl - it is open source agnostic I believe | |
| 21:33 | cait | hm, about 740 euro |
| 21:34 | and only 15 hours :P | |
| 21:34 | nothing after nz | |
| 21:34 | schuster | ok end of day see you tomorrow! |
| 21:34 | rangi | cya schuster |
| 21:35 | schuster left #koha | |
| 21:37 | gmcharlt | rhcl: confirmed, ESI isn't participating on that panel |
| 21:37 | rangi | bshum is bibliomation eh? |
| 21:38 | gmcharlt | yes |
| 21:38 | rangi | he's good people |
| 21:38 | gmcharlt | he is |
| 21:44 | cait | getting late here - good night all :) |
| 21:44 | rangi | night cait |
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| 21:51 | rangi | hiya ebegin |
| 21:51 | ebegin | Hi all! |
| 21:52 | Any librarians around ? :) | |
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| 22:41 | magnuse | when IndependantBranches is set to "_Prevent_ staff (but not superlibrarians) from modifying objects...", should non-superlibrarian librarians even get to see patrons from other branches than their own? |
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| 22:59 | mtj | super prolly should see all branches |
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| 23:03 | mtj | my 2 cents... |
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| 23:30 | brendan_ | @wunder 93109 |
| 23:30 | huginn | brendan_: The current temperature in K6LCM - Westside / Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 11.0�C (4:30 PM PDT on March 24, 2011). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Falling). |
| 23:48 | jcamins_away | @wunder 11375 |
| 23:48 | huginn | jcamins_away: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is 5.5�C (7:46 PM EDT on March 24, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008.4 hPa (Rising). |
| 23:48 | * jcamins_away | votes that he be relocated to Santa Barbara. :D |
| 23:56 | brendan_ | heh |
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