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| 00:37 | rangi | wow cait is busy |
| 00:38 | cait | cait should sleep |
| 00:38 | wizzyrea | oh ya |
| 00:38 | cait++ | |
| 00:38 | rangi | cait: i already had a client ask for your patch for 1962 to be applied |
| 00:38 | cait | :) |
| 00:38 | rangi | i said 'as soon as liz tests it' :) |
| 00:39 | cait | both nicole and I tested it the first time... hope now it works like it should |
| 00:40 | wizzyrea | the libraries like seeing the fines |
| 00:41 | will be nice to not see the 0 ones tho | |
| 00:41 | cait | right :) |
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| 00:41 | cathrsnz | Testing our IRC link pre go-live -- please ignore. C |
| 00:42 | rangi | hi cathrsnz |
| 00:42 | * rangi | is chris c |
| 00:42 | cathrsnz | Great - so it works - thanks very encouraging thanks. |
| 00:42 | rangi | see ya in a couple of days :) |
| 00:43 | cait | and pehraps I can motivate someone to look at bug 5527? |
| 00:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5527 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Reports: Patrons who haven't checked out misses active users from issues table |
| 00:44 | rangi | i think pauls email is a perfect opening |
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| 00:45 | rangi | people should feel free to reply to those emails with a list of bugs they would like to highlight for testing/sign off too |
| 00:45 | wizzyrea | ooo good idea |
| 00:45 | bug advocacy | |
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| 00:48 | cait | hmpf - locked out of mail account subscribed to lists for 4 more hours |
| 00:48 | so, not now. :) | |
| 00:49 | rangi | time for sleep for you anyway :) |
| 00:49 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 00:50 | cait | yeah, perhaps better |
| 00:52 | good night :) | |
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| 01:00 | wizzyrea | bug 5812 is a great example of how signoff push is supposed to work |
| 01:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5812 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Tag Cloud - capitalized words come before lower-case words |
| 01:00 | wizzyrea | patch* |
| 01:05 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5835 : adding a class to index <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8e92dabdc638b11e4> |
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| 01:21 | rangi | checkout what the awesome shiny has been up to |
| 01:21 | http://coffee.geek.nz/what-ive[…]hquake-stuff.html | |
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| 01:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 2975: whitespace and formatting cleanup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]022295da42ceed1ff> / bug 2975: fix calculation of due dates by offline circ <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86cc418ae8c980b57> |
| 01:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 26 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:40 | rangi | i do like this |
| 01:40 | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master/26/changes | |
| 01:41 | eythian | I cannot begin to pronounce "Wijzigingen" (which I see as the title of that page, and means "changes") |
| 01:42 | rangi | heh |
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| 02:11 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #26: SUCCESS in 32 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/26/ |
| 02:11 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5820: Change language to 'Fund' over 'Budget' | |
| 02:11 | * Ian Walls: Bug 5831: rebuild_zebra.pl doesn't respect -r | |
| 02:11 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5835 : adding a class to index <select> | |
| 02:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5820 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, funds/budget language inconsistency when ordering |
| 02:11 | jenkins_koha | * Galen Charlton: bug 2975: fix calculation of due dates by offline circ |
| 02:11 | * Galen Charlton: bug 2975: whitespace and formatting cleanup | |
| 02:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5831 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, rebuild_zebra.pl does not respect -r flag |
| 02:11 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5835 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Adding a missing class to the idx select box | |
| 02:11 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2975 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Offline circ tries to circ on biblio-level "itemtype" | |
| 02:11 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 27 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:19 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a0aa8e05b8195b3fa> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5783' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4ca10dfb512dcb90> / bug 5783: follow-up system preferences tweaks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]61adeac8597ce0781 |
| 02:43 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #27: SUCCESS in 31 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/27/ |
| 02:43 | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: bug 5783: Authorities edit logging | |
| 02:43 | * Galen Charlton: bug 5783: follow-up - fix logging of modifications | |
| 02:43 | * Galen Charlton: bug 5783: follow-up system preferences tweaks | |
| 02:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5783 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Authorities edit logging |
| 02:43 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version |
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| 03:30 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
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| 03:39 | cornelius | hello, am I late? |
| 03:40 | mtj | ha, for what? |
| 03:42 | cornelius | Any news from this chat? KohaCon11, is on Tuesday 8th March 2011 at 14:00 UTC |
| 03:42 | mtj | cornelius: ahh, gotcha :) |
| 03:42 | space_librarian | hasn't happened yet, cornelius |
| 03:43 | rangi | its only monday, (or still sunday in some places) |
| 03:43 | i dont think its tuesday anywhere in the work | |
| 03:43 | world even | |
| 03:43 | space_librarian | not yet |
| 03:43 | cornelius | it is a mistake. I will come back then. |
| 03:44 | kmkale | :) |
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| 04:23 | rangi | bug 5873 |
| 04:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5873 was not found. |
| 04:24 | rangi | bug 5837 |
| 04:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5837 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Change installer to use DBIx::Class::Schema::Versioned instead of updatedatabase.pl |
| 04:24 | rangi | if anyone is interested its sorta working |
| 04:26 | mtj | i'm interested, and WoW |
| 04:29 | rangi: was this header stuff automated? | |
| 04:30 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]552631c9334e39080 | |
| 04:30 | or all done manually> | |
| 04:30 | ? | |
| 04:30 | ahhh. | |
| 04:31 | 180 # Created by DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader v0.07010 @ 2011-03-07 16:24:14 | |
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| 04:31 | mtj | 181 # DO NOT MODIFY THIS OR ANYTHING ABOVE! md5sum:mZ51lfjNh7yS/yCJsbEUbQ |
| 04:31 | click ;) | |
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| 05:41 | rangi | yeah I've been writing scripts to do the upgrade |
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| 05:47 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 05:52 | rangi | and create the diffs |
| 05:55 | cait | rangi++ |
| 05:55 | you were busy too :) | |
| 06:02 | rangi | I did manage to deploy to mysql and postgres |
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| 06:17 | eythian | so liberty stores credits as negative values, debits as negative values, and things that aren't marked but are really credits as positive values. Good work. |
| 06:20 | cait | ? |
| 06:21 | eythian | migrating fines/charges from Liberty to Koha. Trying to understand the details of how liberty stores things. |
| 06:21 | And it seems to have things that make no sense. | |
| 06:22 | About 50% of the time this means I haven't understood them right. | |
| 06:22 | The other 50% they really are crazy. | |
| 06:22 | cait | this is good, I thought it only made no sense to me :) |
| 06:22 | so perhaps I am really kind of awake | |
| 06:23 | eythian | I wouldn't count on it. I can feel the side effects of two injections kicking in. |
| 06:23 | The kind of immune-system overdrive that leaves you feeling a bit tired and spacey. | |
| 06:23 | cait | ouch |
| 06:24 | eythian | http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/e[…]op-three-ck-87657 <-- not a bad result |
| 06:29 | rangi | :) |
| 06:30 | cait | uh |
| 06:30 | we print out the sql twice above guided reports? | |
| 06:30 | I don't want it there once | |
| 06:31 | rangi | twice? |
| 06:31 | cait | yep |
| 06:31 | select firstname, surname from borrowers Total number of rows matching the (unlimited) query is 51. select firstname, surname from borrowers | |
| 06:32 | rangi | heh |
| 06:32 | cait | doesn't make sense and an ugly print out |
| 06:32 | twice = wrong english? | |
| 06:33 | rangi | nope, id just never seen it twice |
| 06:33 | cait | I was not aware of that either |
| 06:34 | I started to show a while back, but I am not sure we really need it there - I would prefer to not show the sql at all | |
| 06:34 | not on the quided reports result page - we have a show sql link on the side before | |
| 06:34 | rangi | yeah |
| 06:35 | cait | oh, it's only once... I accidently added my sql as note |
| 06:35 | rangi | heh |
| 06:35 | * cait | should perhaps sleep more |
| 06:35 | rangi | :) |
| 06:35 | cait | but still don#t want the sql there |
| 06:46 | kmkale | hi cait rangi |
| 06:48 | rangi | hi kmkale |
| 06:51 | cait | hi kmkale :) |
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| 07:04 | cait | sending a patch feels like a good start for a monday |
| 07:05 | let's see how it goes from here :) | |
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| 07:43 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:43 | rangi | wb kf |
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| 07:47 | rangi | hi sophie_m and paul_p |
| 07:47 | paul_p | hi rangi |
| 07:47 | sophie_m | hi |
| 07:49 | kf | :) |
| 07:49 | and good morning biblibre :) | |
| 07:50 | * paul_p | tired to remove spam on the wiki ... 3-6 every day |
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| 07:51 | rangi | yeah, theres gotta be some anti spam plugins for mediawiki |
| 07:51 | the problem is its human beings doing it | |
| 07:52 | not machines | |
| 07:52 | * magnuse | was just thinking the same thing... |
| 07:52 | magnuse | and kia ora! |
| 07:52 | rangi | hiya magnuse |
| 07:53 | hdl | hi |
| 07:53 | wahanui1 | que tal, hdl |
| 07:53 | kf | we could move back to dokuwiki... *hides* |
| 07:53 | rangi | wouldnt stop it |
| 07:53 | * kf | waves to magnus from under her desk |
| 07:53 | rangi | we had spam on there too |
| 07:54 | theres not a lot that stops humans | |
| 07:54 | kf | it's really hard to see real edits to the wiki now, with all the spam and spam fighting |
| 07:55 | rangi | i think the only thing we could do is increase the autoblocking to a really long time |
| 07:56 | kf | auto-blocking? |
| 07:57 | magnuse | an extreme but efficient measure might be to disable account creation - force people to "apply" for editing rights... |
| 07:57 | rangi | kf: when you block a user, it blocks that ipnumber from creating a new account |
| 07:57 | it has been stopping lots | |
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| 08:00 | francharb | morning all |
| 08:00 | magnuse | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/[…]al:Combating_spam |
| 08:00 | rangi | hi francharb |
| 08:02 | kf | hi francharb |
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| 08:21 | kf | paul_p: answered your comment ;) |
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| 08:29 | rangi | kf: you are now chris fischer apparently |
| 08:29 | kf | lol |
| 08:29 | oh my, another identity to take care of | |
| 08:30 | rangi | hehe |
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| 09:13 | kf | bug 5839 - opinions welcome |
| 09:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5839 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21 |
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| 09:43 | marcelr | kf: 5839++ |
| 09:46 | kf | thx :) |
| 09:46 | was on my list for a long time, | |
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| 11:58 | kf | does someone remember why rotating collections was taken out of 3.2? |
| 12:00 | druthb_away is now known as druthb | |
| 12:05 | * kf | waves to druthb :) |
| 12:05 | druthb | o/ |
| 12:18 | magnuse | so if a library has internal notes in marc21 field 590 that they do not want to display in the opac, what is the best thing to do? Biblio::GetMarcNotes picks up all 500-fields |
| 12:20 | the marc data is being migrated from 2.2.9 to 3.2 | |
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| 12:27 | kf | 590 is a local field |
| 12:27 | having a 9 in it | |
| 12:28 | not sure there are such things as internal footnotes in marc21 | |
| 12:28 | ? | |
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| 12:32 | magnuse | me neither... the library have been using 590 for internal notes in 2.2.9, and want to keep those internal notes out of the opac somehow in 3.2 too... |
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| 12:35 | Dig_library | hi |
| 12:35 | hello | |
| 12:35 | wahanui1 | hello, Dig_library |
| 12:35 | hdl | hi |
| 12:36 | Dig_library | i need a help? |
| 12:36 | <wahanui1> | |
| 12:37 | hdl | Dig_library: ? |
| 12:39 | Dig_library | i m using koha in my library comp, now i want to access the catalog from another client machine. what should i do? |
| 12:39 | <hdl> | |
| 12:40 | hdl | you should either add the uri to your /etc/host |
| 12:40 | Or use your bind service to point the catalog to your computer. | |
| 12:41 | mtj | Dig_library: just use the same url |
| 12:41 | Dig_library | cant access by using same url |
| 12:42 | mtj | ask your library sys-admin then |
| 12:42 | you probably have a network config issue | |
| 12:43 | Dig_library | i also tried to add the url in /etc/host but, cant enter anything |
| 12:43 | may be | |
| 12:43 | mtj | you have a file permission problem too? |
| 12:44 | Dig_library | ok |
| 12:45 | the other thing is i want to upgrade the version of koha. how? | |
| 12:45 | mtj | use git , or download the tarball |
| 12:46 | ps : use git ;) | |
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| 13:02 | Dig_library | hi |
| 13:02 | wahanui1 | niihau, Dig_library |
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| 13:19 | * jcamins | waves to #koha |
| 13:22 | magnuse | o/ |
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| 13:41 | * druthb | waves to sekjal and jcamins. |
| 13:42 | sekjal | morning, druthb! |
| 13:42 | morning, jcamins | |
| 13:42 | * jcamins | cautions everyone who is not druthb or sekjal to keep their distance - apparently there is a cold going around the office. |
| 13:42 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 14:17 | schuster | gets out the Lysol disinfectant... don't come near me... |
| 14:19 | jcamins | schuster: I hope you have an economy-sized bottle. |
| 14:21 | * jwagner | thinks chicken soup is vastly overrated |
| 14:21 | jwagner | Especially for horrible hacking coughs... |
| 14:24 | * druthb | chuckles about a cold "going around" a virtual office. |
| 14:24 | jwagner | It will spread all through #koha if you're not careful! Practice sanitary typing!!! |
| 14:26 | jcamins | That's why I warned you all. |
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| 14:27 | Eru | hey guys. Anyone know why I would get this error mesage whilst trying to update patron data? "Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Members.pm line 595. |
| 14:27 | " | |
| 14:29 | I'v checked that line, and it appears to relate to the pwd. Upon input the pwd is not masked, which seems a bit strange, but I can't remember if it was when it was working | |
| 14:29 | magnuse | Eru: not sure i can help you, but which version of koha are you using? |
| 14:30 | Eru | magnuse: I'm running 3.00.00.107 |
| 14:32 | jcamins | Eru: is that a typo? That's an incredibly old version. |
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| 14:33 | mtj | 2.5 years old |
| 14:33 | ive seen a lot older ;) | |
| 14:34 | Eru | woah, for real? We got the newest version when we installed it, and that was eighteen months ago, so that doesn't sound right |
| 14:35 | kf | Eru: Koha is fast :) |
| 14:35 | current version is 3.2.5 | |
| 14:35 | Eru | that's fast, for sure |
| 14:35 | :) | |
| 14:35 | jcamins | Eru: 18 months ago the newest version should have been ~3.0.4, I think. |
| 14:36 | Regardless, one possibility for fixing the problem might be to upgrade. | |
| 14:36 | Eru | aight. anwyays, I guess an upgrade could solve the issues, but we've made quite a few changes to that marc framework that I'd rather not have to make again |
| 14:37 | mtj | http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=ko[…]292a2f8d9f2b3a8b5 |
| 14:37 | jcamins | You wouldn't lose your changes if you upgraded. |
| 14:37 | mtj | Wed, 6 Aug 2008 |
| 14:37 | Eru | cheers |
| 14:38 | jcamins: You never know with upgrades | |
| 14:38 | jcamins | Eru: true. |
| 14:38 | That's why backups are a good idea. | |
| 14:38 | mtj | … and a test box |
| 14:38 | Eru | agreed |
| 14:39 | guess, worst case scenario I could roll back to 3.0.0.17 and load the backup | |
| 14:39 | mtj | but you will need an extra koha license for that :/ |
| 14:39 | just kidding! ;) | |
| 14:40 | Eru | haha |
| 14:41 | upgrade it is, then | |
| 14:41 | sekjal | lots of great new features in Koha 3.2 |
| 14:41 | I think upgrading is a win all around | |
| 14:42 | Eru | Agreed once more. bit sloppy to keep the same verison for such a long time :) |
| 14:46 | but no idea of what could be causing the problem in the Members.pm file? | |
| 14:47 | mtj | pass... |
| 14:47 | the cause is probably because you have a really old version :) | |
| 14:48 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
| 14:49 | mtj | im being cheeky, but set up a test box on 3.2.5 and see if yr problem persists |
| 14:49 | Eru | I'll do that. thanks |
| 14:49 | it's just, I hate not knowing why things fail | |
| 14:50 | mtj | yep, me too |
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| 14:51 | mtj | but save your debugging till *after* you upgrade |
| 14:51 | Eru | and as I can't find any error in the code nor any reason why the changes I've made should make it fail, I suddenly feel like tossing the server out the window. Luckily it's located somewhare else |
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| 14:51 | mtj | else you may be fixing a bug , thats already been sorted |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | odd, are permissions kept anywhere but in the borrowerflags? |
| 14:52 | mtj | nope, afaik |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | well that's completely odd then |
| 14:53 | I have permissions set uniformly, but some flags aren't set | |
| 14:53 | flags | |
| 14:53 | * druthb | has been seeing a lot of wizzyrea lately, but doesn't mind. |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | lm rephrase |
| 14:53 | I have the flags set uniformly, but some permissions aren't set | |
| 14:53 | :D | |
| 14:53 | mornin ruth | |
| 14:53 | it's weird. | |
| 14:58 | nengard | morning all |
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| 14:59 | druthb | Hi, nengard! |
| 15:00 | JesseM | Morning nengard |
| 15:03 | wizzyrea | mornin nengard |
| 15:04 | nengard | hiya all |
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| 16:06 | wizzyrea | not that he's here, but pianohacker++ |
| 16:06 | for teaching me something *without even being present* | |
| 16:07 | rhcl | Is that like "sine qua non"? |
| 16:07 | nengard | what was that? |
| 16:07 | wizzyrea | it was a friendlier way to execute left joins |
| 16:07 | to use something a la | |
| 16:07 | LEFT JOIN items USING (itemnumber) | |
| 16:07 | * wizzyrea | has always had a bit of a mental block regarding joins |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | it's elementary |
| 16:08 | and I'm exposing my ignorance by telling | |
| 16:08 | * jcamins | pictures wizzyrea with a Sherlock Holmes hat. |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | but oy, that helped me so much to understand |
| 16:08 | reports_library++ | |
| 16:12 | nengard | wizzyrea thanks for also teaching me something! |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | YAY knowledge spreading! |
| 16:14 | hdl | give forward |
| 16:16 | nengard | that's what it's all about |
| 16:18 | * jcamins | thinks may be the first time he's had electricity but no running water in the US. |
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| 16:32 | nengard | jcamins - why no water? |
| 16:32 | jcamins | nengard: I'm not entirely sure. I just turned on the tap and no water came out. |
| 16:33 | nengard | uh oh |
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| 16:44 | briceSanc | hello |
| 16:44 | wahanui1 | hello, briceSanc |
| 16:45 | wizzyrea | hello |
| 16:45 | wahanui1 | hola, wizzyrea |
| 16:45 | briceSanc | is there a way to merge 2 authorities records in Koha and to compare the diff ? |
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| 16:53 | nengard | briceSanc not at this time |
| 16:53 | sekjal | briceSanc: not at this point, I believe. But there is a mergebiblio tool which could probably be modified to handle this (similar understructure) |
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| 17:08 | jcamins | Just another 1:45 before we get running water back. |
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| 17:40 | briceSanc | nengard, sekjal, thanks for your answers ! |
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| 17:48 | druthb | @quote get 102 |
| 17:48 | huginn | druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) |
| 17:52 | * wizzyrea | agrees |
| 18:00 | briceSanc | ls |
| 18:01 | nengard | have the bots stopped announcing rebuilds of the manual? |
| 18:01 | I pusehd commits yesterday and today and never saw it here in the chanel | |
| 18:02 | not a big deal of course - just curious | |
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| 18:27 | gmcharlt | quick poll - add a sort3 field to borrowers or enhance the statistics wizards to allow specifying extend patron attributes as column or row values? |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | what for? |
| 18:28 | what's the problem you want to solve? | |
| 18:28 | * wizzyrea | is a bit thick today |
| 18:28 | gmcharlt | basically, library wants a third statistical category field; they already use sort1 and sort3 *and* extended patron attributes |
| 18:30 | wizzyrea | hmm. allowing specifying in the wizards seems like a more universal solution. Maybe I don't understand. |
| 18:31 | sekjal | enhance_the_wizard++ |
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| 18:31 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: I agree with you, but just wanted to be sure that I wasn't being overly obtuse in desiring the more general solution |
| 18:32 | * wizzyrea | generally prefers using existing data than creating more |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | unless you really need to create more |
| 18:36 | rangi | +1 to general |
| 18:40 | jcamins | Woohoo! We have running water again! |
| 18:41 | rangi | yay! |
| 18:46 | * rangi | is off to hawera today |
| 18:46 | rangi | 3 days of training in koha and koha sysadmin |
| 18:47 | * rangi | will leave it as an exercise for the reader to google map it |
| 18:57 | nengard | gmcharlt I'm for using patron attributes instead of the sort fields |
| 19:00 | rangi | I'm for using them as well as |
| 19:00 | just not adding more | |
| 19:01 | ibeardslee | rangi: enjoy the drive |
| 19:04 | rhcl | It's on the thing that sticks out on the left. |
| 19:04 | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=[…]1006,9.876709&z=7 | |
| 19:04 | rangi | ibeardslee: coming in for the morning heading off round 12 |
| 19:04 | taking the whanau too | |
| 19:06 | ok my stop | |
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| 19:14 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 19:15 | rangi | back |
| 19:16 | yo people | |
| 19:16 | magnuse | yo rangi! |
| 19:16 | rangi | i needs me some help |
| 19:16 | * druthb | perks up and listens. |
| 19:17 | rangi | bug 3013 |
| 19:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3013 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types |
| 19:18 | rangi | this looks good to me, and nicole has signed off |
| 19:18 | but i dont understand the 006/008 rules enough to be totally sure | |
| 19:18 | jcamins: im looking at you | |
| 19:18 | if i merge and push, can you do a test shortly after :) | |
| 19:19 | jcamins | rangi: let me check if my test VMs are booting today... |
| 19:19 | rangi | :) |
| 19:20 | jcamins | Sure. :) |
| 19:20 | rangi | cool 2 secs |
| 19:21 | new/bug_3013 | |
| 19:22 | if you check that out | |
| 19:22 | its master, plus the new patch | |
| 19:23 | lemme know if it works the way you think it should, and ill merge (no hurry really, just whenever you have time | |
| 19:23 | ) | |
| 19:23 | jcamins | Sure thing. |
| 19:24 | nengard | rangi, a cataloger already signed off :) |
| 19:24 | rangi | yep, but i always like 2 sign offs, and mine isnt worth anything on this |
| 19:24 | normally i at least have some understanding what the patch is trying to do :) | |
| 19:25 | so not replacing your signoff, replacing mine | |
| 19:26 | * jcamins | wonders where he could find a lot of entropy... |
| 19:27 | sekjal | jcamins: my office |
| 19:27 | jcamins | sekjal: wanna feed it to a PRNG? |
| 19:27 | druthb | my desktop, jcamins. |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Excellent! |
| 19:28 | druthb: wait, you have a laptop... :P | |
| 19:28 | druthb | yes. I'm talking the non-digital part of my desk...you know, that flat thing where you put papers and lunch and stuff. |
| 19:29 | jcamins | I tried feeding that to my random number generator, but it didn't work. On the plus side, I found this great coffee holder. ;) |
| 19:32 | * wizzyrea | imagines entropy in a desk made of a lap, giggles |
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| 19:32 | * jcamins | wonders if maybe he should put his external keyboard on the floor and let his cat walk on it. |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | i'm reminded of the software that "detects cat-like typing" and wonder if "cat-like" typing is really random or if it's more predictable |
| 19:33 | jcamins | Argh! |
| 19:35 | druthb | "random" is an English-language token for "something we haven't figured out how to explain mathematically," in my usage. |
| 19:36 | * jcamins | is fine with that, but being told "please enter entropy" every time you try to use SSH is really annoying. |
| 19:37 | sekjal | select pixels' hex values from all over a PNG, then run them through SHA1 hash? |
| 19:37 | just keep providing lots of random pictures | |
| 19:39 | jcamins | sekjal: brilliant! |
| 19:41 | * druthb | suggests getting an SSH client that doesn't make that request, instead. Mine doesn't... |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Normal people don't run out of entropy |
| 19:42 | :) | |
| 19:42 | druthb | I never suspected you were normal, jcamins, from the day I met you. But mostly, that's a Good Thing. |
| 19:48 | gmcharlt | problem with using cats as random number generators is if they they catch on, the perverse little creatures will start marching across your keyboard in perfect, non-entropic, lockstep |
| 19:49 | druthb | I would suggest a teenager as an entropy source, but the costs are kinda high...and mine's pretty darn predictable, really. |
| 19:50 | * magnuse | wonders if it is possible to "get at" the item level elements of the XML that is passed to MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl - in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl? |
| 19:52 | gmcharlt | magnuse: what do you mean? |
| 19:52 | it would just be a matter of modifying the XSLT | |
| 19:55 | magnuse | gmcharlt: yeah, but i cant for the life of me get it to work... i have tried all kinds of permutations of this: http://paste.koha-community.org/168 |
| 19:55 | * magnuse | is not very good at xslt... |
| 19:56 | gmcharlt | magnuse: you need to tack on the items: namespace prefix |
| 19:56 | e.g., <xsl:for-each select="//items:item/" ... | |
| 19:59 | nengard | okay, 6 patches signed off and the count of patches that need sign off is down to 140 ... I need to take a nap now and recover from this sickiness |
| 19:59 | talk to you all later | |
| 20:00 | magnuse | nengard++ |
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| 20:04 | magnuse | gmcharlt++ # the namespace thingy was the missing part of the puzzle - thanks a ton! |
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| 20:22 | * magnuse | wanders off to get some beauty sleep and wishes all of #koha a wonderful time-of-the-day! |
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| 20:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5830 Using XSLT on OPAC Lists page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f934a711fd0f6fb1c> |
| 20:38 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 28 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 20:57 | wizzyrea | oleonard: about? |
| 20:57 | * wizzyrea | fails to read the user list |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | never mind :) |
| 20:58 | rangi | heh |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | i wonder if transferring a book ought to offer to print a transit slip (using the transfer function) |
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| 21:02 | cait | hi #koha |
| 21:03 | jwagner | Hi cait |
| 21:03 | cait | hi jwagner |
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| 21:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #28: SUCCESS in 32 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/28/ |
| 21:10 | Frédéric Demians: Bug 5830 Using XSLT on OPAC Lists page | |
| 21:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5830 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Using XSLT on OPAC Lists page |
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| 21:14 | JesseM | i know the Koha now does do digital archiving, but is that something that may happen in the future or already in the works?? |
| 21:15 | so doesnt do digital archiving | |
| 21:16 | jcamins | JesseM: if you want some sort of digital repository function, you'd be better off using something specifically for that, like Kete. |
| 21:16 | cait | JesseM: I think there is better software around for that task |
| 21:16 | like jcamis said | |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | cataloging and linking to it: koha would be great at |
| 21:16 | cait | jcamins even |
| 21:17 | rangi | yeah i concur |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | but something else for actual storage and display, imo |
| 21:17 | cait | jwagner: I see your name on that bug of mine - have you tested it? I am not sure why it didn't work for Nicole |
| 21:17 | jwagner | Sorry, been jumping around today -- which bug? |
| 21:17 | JesseM | ok thanks all |
| 21:17 | rangi | JesseM: koha and kete play nice together |
| 21:17 | http://www.library.org.nz/cgi-[…]q=maori+battalion | |
| 21:17 | see ^ | |
| 21:19 | JesseM | thx rangi |
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| 21:20 | wizzyrea | oy I think we need to set a cookie or something if you have the masthead library selector and the user changes the drop down |
| 21:20 | that is annoying that you have to set it for every search | |
| 21:20 | cait | jwagner: bug 5834 |
| 21:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5834 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Holds link missing when 942$c is not for loan |
| 21:21 | jwagner | Oh, yes. No, haven't tried it yet -- I cc'd myself because it ties in with similar problems I've seen. |
| 21:21 | rangi | right meeting, bbiab |
| 21:23 | jwagner | cait, I just passed the link to your bug report on to the developer who's been looking at related problems. |
| 21:24 | cait | ok, thx |
| 21:26 | hdl | cait: jwagner: When item is not for loan, it is not holdable. Therefore the link is not meant to appear. |
| 21:27 | cait | hdl: the question is biblio level itype or item level itype |
| 21:27 | jwagner | hdl, correct. The problem we've seen is where there is no 942c and/or there are multiple items on the title (some of which are for loan and some aren't). |
| 21:27 | cait | at the moment the link does not appear when your item level itypes are perfectly holdable |
| 21:27 | jwagner | We need it to ignore the 942c altogether and just look at the item level itypes |
| 21:28 | cait | jwagner: except when you are using biblio level itypes... although I know nobody who does |
| 21:29 | jwagner | Is biblio-level itypes option one of the holdovers from the earlier Koha version? |
| 21:29 | jcamins | cait: the ANS does. |
| 21:30 | cait | jwagner: it's an existing option, yes. Not sure it's a holdover and it's not deprecated |
| 21:30 | hdl | jwagner: it is... But it also allows to have ccode and itemtype indexed at biblio level... Since there are electronic documents or journals... which often donot have items |
| 21:31 | cait | my patch just adds a check for the sys pref and makes it ignore 942 when it's set to item_level_itypes |
| 21:31 | jwagner | hdl, that makes sense. I usually just create a dummy item for electronic titles. |
| 21:40 | sekjal | it'd be really handy if Koha could recognize other types of holdings than physical (952), like electronic (856) and serials (853-5, 863-5), and treat accordingly |
| 21:40 | jwagner | agreed |
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| 21:44 | wizzyrea | cait: I just signed off your patch for 1962 |
| 21:44 | works a treat thanks :) | |
| 21:45 | cait | thx wizzyrea :) |
| 21:46 | wizzyrea | no no, thank you |
| 21:47 | * cait | gives up |
| 21:47 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 21:47 | jwagner | Good night, all. |
| 21:47 | * wizzyrea | gives Cait chocolate fried mochi... like fudge, but ricier! |
| 21:47 | wizzyrea | cait++ (I'm done, I swear) |
| 21:47 | <3 | |
| 21:47 | cait | lol |
| 21:47 | and yummy | |
| 21:48 | druthb | cait++ |
| 21:48 | cait | ts karma war? |
| 21:48 | druthb++ for being here | |
| 21:48 | druthb | :P |
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| 21:48 | jwagner | Hey! I'm still here too! |
| 21:49 | jcamins | wizzyrea: what was that? |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | what chocolate fried mochi? |
| 21:49 | jcamins | No, that other word... fudge! |
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| 21:49 | wizzyrea | jaja |
| 21:49 | jcamins | But, yes, what is chocolate fried mochi exactly? |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/[…]mochi/Detail.aspx |
| 21:50 | then, you can FRY it | |
| 21:50 | jcamins | Interesting. |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | I didn't do the vinegar and potato starch |
| 21:51 | ooo it's the non-stick powder of choice | |
| 21:51 | i see | |
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| 21:51 | wizzyrea | you basically add cocoa to the rice flour/sugar mixture and nuke |
| 21:52 | sekjal | mmm |
| 21:52 | with that, goodnight, #koha! | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | gnite :) |
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| 21:55 | jcamins | Time for me to get some sleep and try to recover from this cold, too. |
| 21:55 | Good night, #koha | |
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| 22:28 | rangi | right, off to do some training bbl |
| 22:29 | wizzyrea | gl |
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