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| 03:17 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 03:19 | space_librarian | namaste, kmkale |
| 03:22 | kmkale | hi space_librarian |
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| 05:14 | cait | hi #koha |
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| 06:22 | kf | good morning #koha |
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| 06:58 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 07:01 | kf | kia ora :) |
| 07:09 | magnuse | :-) |
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| 08:04 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 08:08 | kf | hi francharb |
| 08:08 | magnuse | hi francharb |
| 08:09 | francharb | hi kf, magnuse! good week end? |
| 08:09 | kf | yep, only too short :) |
| 08:09 | francharb | as usual |
| 08:09 | ;) | |
| 08:10 | magnuse | yep, thanks - worked a little, went for nice walks in non-freezing temperatures, ate good food... |
| 08:10 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
| 08:10 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (8:50 AM CET on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:10 | francharb | @wunder lyon, france |
| 08:10 | huginn | francharb: The current temperature in Lyon, France is 3.0�C (9:00 AM CET on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:10 | magnuse | how about you francharb? |
| 08:11 | heh, almost the same! | |
| 08:11 | @wunder konstanz, germany | |
| 08:11 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0�C (9:00 AM CET on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:11 | magnuse | cait beats us both! |
| 08:11 | oops, kf | |
| 08:12 | kf | hehe |
| 08:12 | don't worry, I don't think it's a secret | |
| 08:13 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 08:13 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:14 | francharb | i did some basic week end stuff : grocery, cleaning... and i got for 4lp boxset from this old swiss band 'kleenex'! :) so i listened 83 swiss punk music! ;) |
| 08:15 | rangi | hehe cool |
| 08:15 | kf | kleenex? |
| 08:16 | francharb | at the beginning they were called kleenex, then liliput |
| 08:16 | kf | hm |
| 08:17 | francharb | kleenex period : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQZY0B8eaPU |
| 08:17 | liliput period : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQOGy3_6k1g | |
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| 08:27 | magnuse | hi paul_p and paul_p's shadow |
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| 08:28 | magnuse | and bonjour hdl |
| 08:28 | paul_p | hello magnuse (& thx to spot the shadow ;-) ) |
| 08:28 | magnuse | sounds like some nice weather in wellington! |
| 08:28 | hdl | hi magnuse |
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| 08:35 | kf | hi hdl and paul_p |
| 08:39 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_1953' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e2cb0ebbe590f5e00> / Bug 1953 - Follow up fix on security patch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a06f773003555a035> |
| 08:40 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 385 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 08:46 | kf | !jenkins botsnack cookie |
| 08:46 | jenkins_koha | kf: great! yum yum. how did you know that cookie is my favorite food? |
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| 09:07 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master build #385: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/385/ |
| 09:07 | Marcel de Rooy: Bug 1953 - Follow up fix on security patch | |
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| 09:53 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_3319' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0a21d2b2b1171cc8> / Bug 3319 Followup: Fix compatibility with fix for bug 4945 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]160bd85e8e532238a> |
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| 10:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Master build #386: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/386/ |
| 10:21 | Ian Walls: Bug 3319 Followup: Fix compatibility with fix for bug 4945 | |
| 10:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4945 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library |
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| 12:03 | magnuse | o/ |
| 12:03 | druthb | hi, magnuse! |
| 12:04 | magnuse | hi druthb |
| 12:06 | eric_b | hi all |
| 12:06 | eric_b is now known as ebegin | |
| 12:08 | magnuse | hi ebegin |
| 12:10 | ebegin | I'm trying to configure koha in order to search ranges of acquisition date. Anybody already acheived this ? So far, I can search for an exact date, but not a range nor > or < |
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| 12:58 | magnuse | good morning, americas! |
| 12:58 | jwagner | Good afternoon, Europe |
| 12:59 | kf | good morning :) |
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| 13:06 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
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| 13:12 | kf | hi jcamins and hi Ropuch :) |
| 13:22 | Ropuch | Hello [; |
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| 13:52 | oleonard | So how's Monday, #koha? |
| 13:52 | * druthb | is dissolving Prozac into her tea, just in case. |
| 13:53 | * oleonard | started the day under a tornado warning, so things have already improved. |
| 13:54 | * jwagner | is wishing i were back in Florida -- 83 degrees, sunny, and a rocket launch :-) |
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| 14:01 | * jcamins | is wishing his sourdough would come up to room temperature so that he could shape it and get it started on its second rise. |
| 14:07 | * druthb | is wishing she was closer to jcamins, since there is sourdough coming up soon |
| 14:08 | jcamins | Lots of sourdough. |
| 14:08 | I figured out why I go through flour so quickly. I used 6 pounds of it yesterday. | |
| 14:08 | druthb | :-O |
| 14:09 | jcamins | Fortunately Costco is nearby, and they sell 50# bags of bread flour. |
| 14:14 | kf | so this one is alive and well? |
| 14:15 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 14:15 | I cheated a bit. | |
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| 14:16 | jcamins | I ordered a starter from King Arthur Flour. |
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| 14:24 | kf | jcamins: why is this cheating? |
| 14:25 | jcamins | kf: 'cause I didn't grow it from scratch. |
| 14:25 | But it's only kind of cheating. | |
| 14:25 | And the payoff (glorious sourdough bread) is totally worth it. ;) | |
| 14:25 | kf | :) |
| 14:33 | rhcl | I see King Arthur Flour is located in Vermont. Vermont has maple syrup. But isn't Vermont sourdough kinda like New York chili? |
| 14:33 | jcamins | rhcl: yeah. |
| 14:33 | rhcl | I mean, for chili you go to Texas. And sourdough should be CA or maybe south/midwest |
| 14:34 | jcamins | But one day soon, the local yeasts will take over, and it'll be less pitiful. |
| 14:34 | rhcl | No see, I wouldn't be able to resist trying to mix it up a bit--I'd throw in some potato scrapings or something |
| 14:34 | Now see... | |
| 14:35 | But then, what do I know about sourdough? | |
| 14:36 | jcamins | Clearly you know how tasty it is. :) |
| 14:36 | gmcharlt | @later tell chris_n would you mind cherry-picking 61f6828d1230 for 3.2.x? |
| 14:36 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:47 | chris_n | owen: should your patches for bug 5804 apply to 3.2.x? |
| 14:49 | sekjal: should your patch for bug 3319 apply to 3.2.x? | |
| 14:50 | @later tell sekjal should your patch for bug 3319 apply to 3.2.x? | |
| 14:50 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:50 | oleonard | chris_n: No, the file in question doesn't exist in 3.2.x |
| 14:50 | chris_n | tnx |
| 14:50 | * chris_n | must remember your nick change :P |
| 14:51 | oleonard | I have my eyeballs configured to alert me when someone uses my old nick. |
| 14:51 | * jcamins | returns, having shaped the sourdough. |
| 14:52 | jcamins | Ten loaves of bread between yesterday and today... not bad. |
| 14:53 | * druthb | hunts for the $1 ticket deal on BoltBus. |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | my goodness I hope you have a big freezer |
| 14:54 | and good morning | |
| 14:54 | * jcamins | gave away the bread from yesterday already. |
| 14:54 | oleonard | Looks like Bugzilla is down? |
| 14:54 | jcamins | oleonard: just in the last few minutes, apparently. |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea: and, good morning. :) | |
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| 15:00 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 15:00 | I seem to have reversed my syspref. | |
| 15:01 | chris_n | gmcharlt: done |
| 15:01 | gmcharlt | chris_n++ |
| 15:01 | chris_n | please let me know if you find other's I've missed |
| 15:02 | others even | |
| 15:02 | gmcharlt | other's others? |
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| 15:02 | druthb | others' others? |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Other's Others? |
| 15:04 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Follow-up fix for Bug 5733 - Empty cart in intranet when session is closed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]947dab0462dd56859> / Fix for Bug 5812 - Tag Cloud - capitalized words come before lower-case words <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a89d94e12fa65b640> / Follow-up fix for Bug 4885 - Only 1 ISBN shows in non- |
| 15:04 | gmcharlt | down with othering! |
| 15:04 | * jcamins | is a grad student in Slavic Studies, so he finds that very amusing. |
| 15:10 | tcohen | how do I properly download a patch from bugs.koha-community? |
| 15:13 | jcamins | tcohen: you can download however you prefer. I generally use wget. |
| 15:13 | tcohen | jcamins: ok |
| 15:13 | jcamins | Put the patch in your kohaclone directory, then run git am ${PATCH_FILE} |
| 15:14 | tcohen | i'll put my hands on bug 5546 today |
| 15:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5546 enhancement, P5, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Ability to hide MARC documentation links |
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| 15:30 | * jcamins | hates illogical bugs. |
| 15:32 | jcamins | Oh, now I see what's wrong. |
| 15:33 | tcohen | jcamins: ? |
| 15:33 | jcamins | tcohen: sorry, just talking to myself. |
| 15:34 | I just learned that variables in XSLT *are not* scoped to templates called after their declaration. | |
| 15:40 | ... and global variables do not work. | |
| 15:51 | oleonard | tcohen: Will you be trying to add cookie handling to the feature in Bug 5546? |
| 15:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5546 enhancement, P5, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED, Ability to hide MARC documentation links |
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| 16:55 | * jcamins | is very impatient for his sourdough bread to cook. |
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| 16:56 | cait | hi all |
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| 17:00 | tcohen | oleonard: that's right, i'll work on cookies |
| 17:00 | any thoughts about it? | |
| 17:00 | jcamins | Mmm. Cookies. |
| 17:00 | druthb | Mmm. |
| 17:00 | jcamins | I should make sourdough cookies. |
| 17:00 | tcohen | butter cookies |
| 17:00 | druthb | o.O |
| 17:00 | sourdough...cookies? | |
| 17:00 | oleonard | tcohen: I have another patch pending which adds the jQuery cookie plugin, so I would recommend using that as well if it suits your needs |
| 17:01 | jcamins | druthb: maybe with coconut and curry, for wizzyrea? :) |
| 17:01 | tcohen | of course |
| 17:01 | druthb | :D |
| 17:01 | tcohen | oleonard: which bug is it? |
| 17:01 | druthb | doesn't sound much like a cookie....some kinda funky macaroon.. |
| 17:02 | oleonard | tcohen: Bug 3659 |
| 17:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3659 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Add place hold option from patron checkout tab |
| 17:03 | wizzyrea | those are the best cookies ever |
| 17:03 | they are oatmeal, coconut, and curry | |
| 17:03 | NOM | |
| 17:03 | just don't (really, don't) use curry powder with garlic in it | |
| 17:03 | druthb | hehehe |
| 17:03 | jcamins | wizzyrea: sounds like you learned that from painful experience? |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | well, honestly |
| 17:04 | I kind of liked it with the garlic | |
| 17:04 | and the kiddo didn't mind them | |
| 17:04 | but the hubs wouldn't touch em | |
| 17:04 | druthb | my daughter would consider that the rankest heresy. She *love* garlic. |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | garlic in cookies was just not his speed |
| 17:05 | we put nuts and dried fruit in those, and they were divine breakfast cookies | |
| 17:05 | lots of fiber >.> | |
| 17:06 | tcohen | cookies need to have SUGAR |
| 17:07 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I did that once. They were *very* popular. |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | oh these did have sugar |
| 17:07 | they do | |
| 17:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 108 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #102 6 days 13 hr ago) |
| 17:21 | jcamins | The bread looks beautiful. And full of character. |
| 17:21 | cait | photos? ;) |
| 17:22 | jcamins | It's still in the oven. |
| 17:22 | Once it comes out I can photograph it. ;) | |
| 17:23 | Unfortunately the photograph will not capture how amazing it smells. | |
| 17:23 | cait | :) |
| 17:25 | tcohen | Cake::CaptureSmell |
| 17:28 | oleonard | I need some help setting up named virtual hosts in a new system I'm setting up |
| 17:29 | The NameVirtualHost line in /etc/apache2/ports.conf should specify the IP:port I specify in koha-httpd.conf's <virtualHost> ? | |
| 17:29 | Is that right? | |
| 17:29 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 17:29 | You can also use * instead of an IP. | |
| 17:30 | oleonard | NameVirtualHost * in ports.conf? |
| 17:30 | jcamins | I think you can do that. |
| 17:30 | That's what I did. | |
| 17:31 | oleonard | Then what do I specify in the <VirtualHost> sections of koha-httpd.conf? |
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| 17:33 | jcamins | * |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea | ServerName Your Name |
| 17:33 | jcamins | <VirtualHost *> ServerName ${YOUR_URL} |
| 17:36 | oleonard | Okay, so now I have in ports.conf, "NameVirtualHost *" and in koha-httpd.conf, "<VirtualHost *> |
| 17:36 | I have specified ServerName | |
| 17:37 | But when I restart apache I get "VirtualHost *:80 -- mixing *ports and no-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported" | |
| 17:38 | Oh, is that from the 000-default site? | |
| 17:38 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 17:39 | I think it is, anyway. | |
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| 17:44 | jcamins | cait: http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/h[…]786_6632498_a.jpg |
| 17:45 | oleonard | Do I need "NameVirtualHost *" just in ports.conf, or in my other .conf files as well? |
| 17:45 | jcamins | You should only need one, I think. |
| 17:46 | oleonard | Do I need a "Listen" somewhere? |
| 17:46 | jcamins | Would anyone else find it useful to be able to doubleclick on a specific patron when the search for checking out to a patron returns more than one result? |
| 17:46 | oleonard: yes, I think it should look like this: | |
| 17:46 | Listen *:80 | |
| 17:46 | NameVirtualHosts *:80 | |
| 17:47 | <VirtualHost *:80> | |
| 17:47 | (or change the :80 to whatever port you want) | |
| 17:47 | (or drop it if you want to leave it at 80, I think) | |
| 17:49 | druthb | * by itself means "all ports we're listening to." I usually use *:80, just to be specific. |
| 17:50 | oleonard | jcamins++ |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 17:50 | druthb++ | |
| 17:50 | Working, thanks! | |
| 17:55 | jenkins_koha | Starting build 109 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #102 6 days 14 hr ago) |
| 17:56 | cait | @wunder konstanz |
| 17:56 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.3�C (7:00 PM CET on February 28, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022.2 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:00 | rangi | morning |
| 18:00 | i wonder if jenkins will complete or run out of ram again | |
| 18:00 | mtj | morning chris |
| 18:01 | rangi | hi mtj |
| 18:01 | mtj | running out of ram is a new thing, since the hudson->jenkins upgrade? |
| 18:02 | rangi | nope |
| 18:02 | it has been doing it a while | |
| 18:02 | * jcamins | distributes pieces of virtual sourdough bread to everyone in #koha |
| 18:02 | mtj | ah, old thing :) |
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| 18:03 | rangi | its a java thing, its what java does |
| 18:03 | eat all your ram | |
| 18:03 | i think its by design :) | |
| 18:04 | tcohen | oleonard: NameVirtualHost *:80 in ports.conf means you're going to use name-based virtual hosts in your apache's configs |
| 18:04 | in your virtualhost definition, it will try to match the virtualhost name | |
| 18:04 | you need one NameVirtualHost declaration for all your vhosts | |
| 18:05 | so it is more clear to put it in ports.conf | |
| 18:05 | if you put more than one apache will complain of namevirtualhosts definition collision | |
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| 18:24 | rangi | nope, there simply isnt enough space for jenkins and bugzilla on the same small linode instance (at least now that we have more tests to run anyway) |
| 18:26 | mtj | i have a linode, that could host either/or |
| 18:26 | its a little 512meg one, so it may choke too | |
| 18:27 | rangi | jenkins is far easier to move |
| 18:27 | ill keep that in mind mtj hopefully we get some other offers | |
| 18:28 | * rangi | goes to catch his bus |
| 18:42 | jcamins | If a particular bib has no items that could ever be checked out by a given patron category, can a patron in that category still place a hold on the item? |
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| 18:43 | rangi | Back |
| 18:43 | That was the longest I've waited for a bus in ages | |
| 18:44 | jcamins: try it and see | |
| 18:44 | jcamins | rangi: good plan. :) |
| 18:45 | cait | jcamins: I think if you can it's a bug |
| 18:46 | rangi | Link it off the holds rewrite bug if you file one |
| 18:48 | jcamins | Will do. |
| 18:48 | rangi | I sent sekjal a patch for bug 5786 if you wanted to test that too that would be cool |
| 18:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix |
| 18:48 | rangi | Its not quite ready for primetime, more a sanity check |
| 18:49 | jcamins | Well, my testing suggests that this works fine. |
| 18:49 | rangi | Sweet |
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| 18:49 | * chris_n | 's todo list looks like a write-only stack :-P |
| 18:49 | jcamins | (a patron cannot place a hold on a bib which does not have any items that can be checked out to his/her category) |
| 18:50 | cait | chris_n: I have one of those too :( |
| 18:50 | rangi | Yeah mine is growing pretty fast, time to add another dev to the catalyst koha team I think |
| 18:50 | Anyone wanna live in wellington? :) | |
| 18:51 | nengard | i do! |
| 18:52 | but i'm not a dev | |
| 18:52 | cait | hmpf :) |
| 18:52 | jwagner | In NZ, yes! not so sure about in Wellington -- those winds were pretty COLD.... |
| 18:53 | druthb is now known as druthb_away | |
| 18:54 | rangi | Bah, that was nothing :) |
| 18:54 | jwagner | ...says the person who was dressed for the weather.... |
| 18:55 | tcohen | oleonard, r u ther? |
| 18:55 | oleonard | Yes |
| 18:55 | tcohen | do u think is ok to set a cookie name marcdocs_borrowernumber true or false? |
| 18:56 | so there can be several cookies set for different users | |
| 18:56 | on the same browser | |
| 18:57 | $.cookie("marcdocs_<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="borrowernumber" -->",false, { path: "/", expires: 0 }); | |
| 18:57 | rangi | Does it need borrowernumber? |
| 18:57 | I guess if its a machine lots of people use | |
| 18:57 | tcohen | each catalogur wants so see/don't see marc doc links |
| 18:58 | cait | yeah, but are they all working on the same machine? |
| 18:58 | tcohen | perhaps, one in the morning one in the evening |
| 18:58 | ?? | |
| 18:59 | if exposing in such a way the borrowernumbers is a problem for security... | |
| 18:59 | rangi | Id have sep users for the machine, but yeah I guess some libraries might let people share logins |
| 19:00 | tcohen | what do u think of possible security issues? |
| 19:00 | I think is harmless | |
| 19:00 | rangi | It does make the checking more complex |
| 19:01 | tcohen | checking? |
| 19:01 | oleonard | Right, how does the script know the borrowernumber of the logged in user? |
| 19:02 | tcohen | $template->param(borrowernumber => $loggedinuser); |
| 19:02 | rangi | The other cookies like language pref, login etc aren't tied to a borrowernumber serverside |
| 19:02 | tcohen | (in addbiblio.pl) |
| 19:03 | rangi | Sorry clientside |
| 19:04 | My stop bbiab | |
| 19:04 | tcohen | I think is better to do it by borrowernumber |
| 19:04 | perhaps for every setting | |
| 19:05 | but for this submission I can be more conservative and stick with the current approach | |
| 19:06 | oleonard? | |
| 19:06 | wahanui1 | i guess oleonard is the master UI designer of koha |
| 19:06 | oleonard | tcohen: I guess I could go either way. |
| 19:07 | tcohen | alright, i'll leave it per-borrower |
| 19:07 | perhaps someone will patch it later if found not appropriate | |
| 19:07 | thanks | |
| 19:07 | nengard | i need help tracking down a bug report - one i thought was fixed (but might not be) |
| 19:07 | searching for subjects that have parens in them - does that work or doesn't it? | |
| 19:08 | tcohen | i don't see any drawbacks |
| 19:08 | nengard | and does anyone know what bug number that was? |
| 19:08 | oleonard | Bug 5693 was a recent one |
| 19:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5693 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, if parentheses used in ccode then searches against ccode fail |
| 19:08 | oleonard | but that's very specific |
| 19:09 | nengard | bug 2702 |
| 19:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2702 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED MOVED, Subjects with Parens Causing Issues |
| 19:09 | nengard | i found it - but what does moved mean? and is it still an issue? |
| 19:09 | oleonard | Bug 1807 |
| 19:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1807 blocker, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED, ':' character blocks search ; search () give odd results |
| 19:10 | oleonard | "C4/Search.pm needs a total rewrite and is on the cards for 3.4" |
| 19:10 | Promises, promises, rangi ;) | |
| 19:11 | rangi | i never promised to write it |
| 19:11 | * rangi | looks at gmcharlt :) |
| 19:12 | * gmcharlt | still has a month :) |
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| 19:12 | jwagner | Speaking of searching, where would I look to try to exclude (for example) leading French articles Le, La, Les L' from alphabetical sorts? |
| 19:12 | cait | what about postgres? |
| 19:12 | only asking because I got a list of questions today - library asking for future safe database | |
| 19:12 | rangi | that wont happen for 3.4 |
| 19:12 | cait | ok |
| 19:12 | rangi | unless someone does it |
| 19:13 | im still hoping to get DBIx::Class::Schema in | |
| 19:13 | then we are a big step closer, its just fixing all the .sql files (and any mysqlisms in the code) | |
| 19:14 | future safe is the wrong reason to leave mysql | |
| 19:14 | its as safe as any db is | |
| 19:14 | and has many drop in replacements | |
| 19:14 | cait | ok |
| 19:14 | rangi | which makes it safer than oracle, or sybase |
| 19:15 | cait | I was wondering where the question came from |
| 19:15 | rangi | moving from it because oracle are mental is the reason |
| 19:15 | cait | not sure what they are using now |
| 19:15 | mtj | ha, thats not saying much, chris :) |
| 19:16 | rangi | i mean its no less future safe than access, or ms sql |
| 19:16 | but its not a true free software project, so thats why im keen to move | |
| 19:16 | you may have noticed a trend in my thinking :-) | |
| 19:17 | mtj | *nod* |
| 19:17 | *nod* | |
| 19:17 | * gmcharlt | checks to see if rms is wearing a rangi mask |
| 19:17 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:17 | actually i strive to emulate bradley kuhn | |
| 19:17 | i have a long long way to go | |
| 19:18 | to be a good a man as he is | |
| 19:18 | i probably need to learn to spell first | |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Does OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown actually do anything? |
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| 19:19 | mtj | pushing for a postgres port, means that the mysql-isms get removed from Koha too, which is another win |
| 19:19 | jcamins | Ah, found it. |
| 19:19 | oleonard | This is probably old news to everyone else, but I just read this and found it worthwhile: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/[…]es-the-point.html |
| 19:20 | rangi | it is a good read eh oleonard |
| 19:22 | oleonard | It helps put some things in context for me, and understand how "open source" can be a slippery slope |
| 19:24 | Alright, installation question: | |
| 19:25 | Are there circumstances under which the "sudo -u <kohauser> zebraserv..." command is going to work without permissions errors? | |
| 19:26 | Or do I get those because I'm doing a dev install? | |
| 19:27 | cait | jcamins: should put a library pull down next to the search in opac |
| 19:28 | the simple search, not the advanced search | |
| 19:29 | oleonard | I'm looking at INSTALL.debian step 6.1.1 |
| 19:29 | jcamins | cait: yeah, eventually I tracked it down. Kind of. |
| 19:29 | How do I set checkouts allowed to "unlimited"? | |
| 19:29 | cait | no way |
| 19:29 | oh | |
| 19:29 | sorry, leave it empty | |
| 19:30 | you can't set maxreserves to unlimited, I was confusing those too for a moment | |
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| 19:32 | cait | leaving the reserves empty means null, leaving checkouts empty means unlimitied (afaik) |
| 19:32 | oleonard | consistency++ |
| 19:33 | cait | I hear you |
| 19:40 | rhcl | firebird, firebird, firebird |
| 19:40 | http://www.firebirdsql.org/ | |
| 19:41 | oleonard | The database I would have never heard of if Mozilla hadn't tried to name a browser the same thing. |
| 19:42 | rhcl | Firebird is a really great database because they have the prettiest web site of any db. |
| 19:43 | rangi | heh |
| 19:43 | * oleonard | does a spit take |
| 19:45 | bencahill | lol |
| 19:45 | * gmcharlt | blinks, then bills rhcl for some ocular bleach |
| 19:48 | * jcamins | remembers abruptly why he decided to do all his development in Template::Toolkit. |
| 19:49 | rangi | yeah, sometime this week, im moving all the tt work into a branch on git.koha-community.org |
| 19:49 | and i will be asking for serious testing | |
| 19:49 | the more testing you do | |
| 19:49 | the less master will be broken when i merge it | |
| 19:49 | let that be a warning to you all! :-) | |
| 19:50 | oleonard | I was hoping "the more testing you do" was going to be followed by "the more cookies you'll get" |
| 19:50 | * oleonard | wherein Koha QA testing peaks at 11AM each day |
| 19:51 | rangi | ill make you a deal |
| 19:52 | a bug found, with a patch to fix it, will get you a cookie | |
| 19:52 | im expecting little things like a variable in the wrong scope | |
| 19:54 | druthb_away is now known as druthb | |
| 19:54 | cait | cookies? |
| 19:54 | * druthb | perks. |
| 19:54 | druthb | cookies? |
| 19:56 | * cait | looks around searching for cookies |
| 19:56 | * druthb | suggests GeoIP location on jcamins address, to find cookies. |
| 19:57 | cait | hehe |
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| 20:11 | NateC | Hiya #koha! |
| 20:11 | rangi | hey NateC |
| 20:11 | bbiab | |
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| 20:21 | SharonNEKLS | Hi all. Is there an updated version of these tables somewhere? http://www.kohadocs.org/usersguide/apa.html |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea is out of the office, or I'd just ask her ;-) | |
| 20:22 | cait | what are you looking for? |
| 20:23 | SharonNEKLS | table names and field names to help write reports. |
| 20:23 | jcamins | My cat says he likes that appendix. There is not an updated one for Koha 3.2+, I don't think. |
| 20:23 | SharonNEKLS | That link is to Koha 2.2 documentation |
| 20:23 | K - we've been using that one for 2 years, suppose we can keep on using it | |
| 20:24 | cait | there is something done by cilea i think |
| 20:24 | it was on the old wiki | |
| 20:24 | database documentation | |
| 20:25 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_information_RFC | |
| 20:25 | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/DB_Schema | |
| 20:25 | nengard | hi SharonNEKLS!!!! |
| 20:26 | SharonNEKLS, I have a link in the manual to the db structure of koha | |
| 20:26 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]460a3df18;hb=HEAD | |
| 20:26 | SharonNEKLS | Thank you - we'll bookmark... |
| 20:27 | nengard | :) |
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| 20:28 | SharonNEKLS | From Mickey: nicole's is good thank you. that is what i needed. |
| 20:28 | * oleonard_ | gets chatzilla working on Debian finally |
| 20:28 | cait | good night all |
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| 20:33 | * oleonard | discovers a new bug. Yay. |
| 20:34 | nengard | you're welcome Mickey and Sharon :) |
| 20:34 | oleonard | 1. Do a search in the staff client. 2. Click on an author link in your search results. 3. Re-sort the results of that search. |
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| 20:35 | SharonNEKLS | Oops |
| 20:35 | Spits me to the Advanced Search page | |
| 20:35 | rangi | i thought that was fixed |
| 20:35 | or it might have just been fixed for subjects | |
| 20:36 | its the link from the author is wrong | |
| 20:37 | works in the opac eh? | |
| 20:38 | oleonard | Yes |
| 20:38 | rangi | opac does |
| 20:38 | q=au:author | |
| 20:38 | lemme find out what staff does | |
| 20:39 | oleonard | search.pl?q=au:<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="author" ESCAPE="URL" --> |
| 20:39 | rangi | the same |
| 20:41 | i bet if you change it to idx=au&q=author | |
| 20:41 | oleonard | It's the hidden input that's different |
| 20:41 | In the opac, ccl=au:Smiley, Jane | |
| 20:41 | rangi | right |
| 20:41 | oleonard | in the staff client au:Smiley, Jane. |
| 20:42 | rangi | i still think the link should be like this |
| 20:42 | http://librarian.opus.koha.cat[…].pl?idx=au&q=test | |
| 20:42 | not ccl anything | |
| 20:42 | that link is sortable, and facetable | |
| 20:43 | ie clicking on the facets actually works | |
| 20:43 | vs | |
| 20:45 | http://librarian.opus.koha.cat[…]cl=au:institution | |
| 20:45 | click on a facet there | |
| 20:45 | doesnt do anything | |
| 20:45 | http://librarian.opus.koha.cat[…]=au&q=institution | |
| 20:45 | click on one there | |
| 20:45 | and it actually works | |
| 20:46 | so i reckon the templte should be changed to not do ccl but just have a hidden input idx = au | |
| 20:46 | sorry no hidden inputs | |
| 20:46 | just a href of the for idx=au&q=authors name | |
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| 20:47 | * rangi | wonders if he is making any sense at all |
| 20:48 | oleonard | I tried search.pl?idx=au&q=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="author" ESCAPE="URL" --> without success |
| 20:49 | jcamins | Does "HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn" ring any bells with anyone? |
| 20:49 | rangi | what about just a & instead of &l |
| 20:49 | amp; even | |
| 20:49 | * rangi | doesnt think browswers interpret html in a url (i could be wrong tho) |
| 20:51 | oleonard | Actually, did my edit take? |
| 20:51 | * oleonard | checks again |
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| 20:52 | rangi | id try it with just an & too |
| 20:52 | SharonNEKLS | jcamins we couldn't find it searching sysprefs, but it was crucial to getting our test install to behave correctly. |
| 20:53 | * oleonard | should have known it was his own error when evidence suggested rangi was wrong :P |
| 20:53 | jcamins | SharonNEKLS: hm. Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who couldn't find that syspref. What happened when it wasn't in your system? |
| 20:54 | oleonard | Your suggested change was correct rangi |
| 20:54 | SharonNEKLS | we didn't get the "please return to" prompt to let folks know when to send books back to their homebranch for re-shelving. |
| 20:54 | rangi | yay! |
| 20:54 | SharonNEKLS | It's stored under "local use" |
| 20:55 | jcamins | Ah-ha. |
| 20:55 | Thank you! | |
| 20:55 | SharonNEKLS | np |
| 20:56 | rangi | http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-[…]ion-357989041.htm |
| 20:56 | the kiwi attitude | |
| 20:56 | SharonNEKLS | lol |
| 20:57 | oleonard | That is an awesome rock. |
| 20:58 | rangi | on a more serious note 2 mins silence at 12:51pm today, thats the time the quake hit one week ago |
| 20:58 | 2 hours and 47 mins from now | |
| 20:58 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]n-a-nation-mourns | |
| 21:11 | SharonNEKLS | rangi - do System logins for SIP connections have to be Staff accounts or can they be plain-jane adult accounts? |
| 21:12 | rangi | pass |
| 21:13 | SharonNEKLS | damn |
| 21:15 | We will email our helpful new support vendor... | |
| 21:17 | nengard | :) |
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| 21:21 | rhcl | the SIP connections have to have admin accounts |
| 21:22 | SharonNEKLS | We will leave those as Staff, but we are taking all 'staff people' and making them regular adult patrons, so they can be guarnators and change their own passwords. |
| 21:23 | rhcl | ? not sure I understand. Staff members can change their passwords certainly. |
| 21:24 | SharonNEKLS | Not in our current set up. |
| 21:24 | rhcl | Well, you need a new setup. :) |
| 21:24 | SharonNEKLS | that's the plan |
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| 21:26 | rhcl | In the olden days some libraries had framed art and even, like sculptures for checkout. Does Koha have any functionality for that? |
| 21:26 | jcamins | rhcl: You can catalog realia with MARC. |
| 21:26 | And you can certainly check out realia... that's how they did registration at KohaCon. | |
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| 21:41 | rhcl | I should catalog my collection of wildlife art. |
| 21:47 | jcamins | Sounds like a good idea to me. |
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| 21:52 | * jcamins | is biased, being a cataloger. |
| 21:55 | * druthb | heard of a library school where one of your cataloging exercises was to catalog yourself. Friend of mine put his parents in 780s, his child in 785, and "God" in 100. |
| 21:58 | gmcharlt | what did he put in the 310? |
| 21:58 | druthb | @marc 310 |
| 21:58 | huginn | druthb: The current stated publication frequency of either an item or an update to an item. Dates are included when the beginning date of the current frequency is not the same as the beginning date of publication. These data are related to coded data in field 008/18 (Frequency) and 008/19 (Regularity). [a,b,6,8] |
| 21:58 | druthb | lol |
| 21:59 | * gmcharlt | wonders what theory of soul is implied by using title changes to represent relationships between parents and children ;) |
| 22:00 | * druthb | catalogs her cat, with extent "20 pounds, approx." and 650 $aDestruction of the Universe |
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| 22:02 | jcamins | gmcharlt: better that than 740, don't you think? |
| 22:03 | rhcl | @marc 740 |
| 22:03 | huginn | rhcl: Contains related or analytical titles that are not controlled through an authority file or list. (If related or analytical titles are controlled by an authority file, use field 730 (Added entry - uniform title)). (Repeatable) [a,h,n,p,5,6,8] |
| 22:03 | gmcharlt | jcamins: true, since you'd just have to edit the record again after nine months |
| 22:04 | rhcl | ah, 740 where the cat should go--mine never listens to me |
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| 23:33 | jcamins | Good night, #kona |
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