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| 01:16 | thd | rangi: are you present? |
| 01:16 | rangi | yes |
| 01:16 | thd | rangi: What do you know about the Chopac ILS? |
| 01:17 | rangi | nothing |
| 01:18 | thd | rangi: see http://chopac.org |
| 01:18 | rangi | k |
| 01:18 | what am i looking for? | |
| 01:18 | thd | rangi: Unfortunately the download seems to be missing http://chopac.org/down.html . |
| 01:19 | rangi | yeah thats a particularly crap site |
| 01:19 | thd | rangi: The Amazon to MARC 21 conversions are interesting despite some problems. |
| 01:19 | rangi | yeah |
| 01:19 | thd | rangi: It is only the conversion tools which interest me. |
| 01:19 | rangi | i emailed charles about them |
| 01:20 | eythian | the marc in the item marc view isn't complete, it has no subfield indicators. |
| 01:20 | thd | rangi: Has he responed? |
| 01:20 | eythian | That's pretty odd |
| 01:20 | thd | s/responed/responded/ |
| 01:20 | rangi | yes, but not to my what license is it under |
| 01:20 | without that, everything else is pointless | |
| 01:21 | thd | rangi: Exactly. |
| 01:21 | rangi: We could fix the bugs and make many enhancements. | |
| 01:21 | eythian | writing a * to marc converter would be easy provided you had a way of scraping all the required information |
| 01:21 | rangi | same with marcedit |
| 01:22 | which is why i dont get excited by either | |
| 01:22 | freeware interests me not at all | |
| 01:22 | thd | rangi: Exactly. |
| 01:22 | rangi | thd: you might like to email, ask if he wants to release it under gpl3 |
| 01:23 | thd | rangi: or AGPL 3 :) |
| 01:23 | rangi | either works ;) |
| 01:24 | thd | rangi: Galen is pursuing the GPLS dependency issue but he has been busy with forming the legal organisation for Evergreen. |
| 01:24 | rangi | *nod* |
| 01:25 | thd | eythian: There is are APIs from Amazon which avoids the need for scraping. |
| 01:25 | However, Amazon does not favour truly open data. | |
| 01:25 | rangi | they do of course keep changing them |
| 01:25 | eythian | well, by scraping, I mean some way of fetching it all. But yeah. |
| 01:25 | rangi | see broken reviews |
| 01:26 | eythian | you can also download all of IMDB in SQL (at least, last I looked several years ago) |
| 01:26 | thd | eythian: Was that before Amazon bought them? |
| 01:27 | eythian | Probably. I used the data for a database class in ... 2001 or '02, so a bit more than several years. |
| 01:27 | thd | eythian: Do you still have the data? |
| 01:28 | eythian | nope |
| 01:29 | thd | eythian: They charge real money now, https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bi[…]T=0&F=&S=&P=23504 . |
| 01:30 | eythian | yeah, just poking through the site. |
| 01:30 | rangi | whats the license on it? |
| 01:30 | money doesnt worry me either | |
| 01:30 | eythian | That sucks, the whole point of IMDB originally was that it was a communal database. |
| 01:30 | rangi | paying money and still not being able to actually use it, that worries me |
| 01:30 | eythian | http://www.imdb.com/help/show_[…]f?usedatasoftware |
| 01:31 | rangi | yeah, unusable by a library |
| 01:31 | eythian | yeah |
| 01:31 | rangi | dicks |
| 01:32 | thd | ethian: IMDB was communal until they sold out to Amazon. CDDB was communal until they sold out to Gracenote. |
| 01:32 | rangi | thats why you want proper licenses |
| 01:32 | makes it harder to sell your soul | |
| 01:33 | thd | Open Library will not use Amazon APIs because they want unencumbered metadata. |
| 01:33 | rangi | we should make more use of open library |
| 01:34 | because they have good api, and do good things | |
| 01:34 | eythian | I like the idea of having a Koha-data server thing that allows library/borrower submitted data that ends up being shared amongst Koha isntances that enable it. |
| 01:34 | rangi | the related subjects thing is about 80% done |
| 01:35 | eythian | so reviews and ratings and so forth get shared between libraries. |
| 01:35 | rangi | yeah |
| 01:45 | thd | eythian++ |
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| 01:59 | ibeardslee | hmmm that also pretty much answers another thing that had been running through my mind |
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| 02:56 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a0b279bef7780c656> |
| 02:56 | hudsonbot | Starting build 370 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:20 | Project Koha_Master build #370: UNSTABLE in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/370/ | |
| 03:20 | Chris Cormack: Bumping database version | |
| 03:21 | rangi | !hudson build koha_master now |
| 03:21 | hudsonbot | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 03:21 | Starting build 371 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #369 4 hr 39 min ago) | |
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| 03:44 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 03:44 | Project Koha_Master build #371: FIXED in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/371/ | |
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| 04:52 | Brooke_ | kia ora |
| 05:00 | mtj | kia ora Brooke_ |
| 05:00 | Brooke_ | :) |
| 05:19 | * Brooke_ | is like a dog chasing cars. |
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| 05:31 | * Brooke_ | waves to Ahmuck |
| 05:32 | Ahmuck | evening brooke |
| 05:35 | Brooke_ | :) |
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| 05:38 | * Brooke_ | waves to Ronald |
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| 06:01 | Brooke_ | wahanui: Maori? |
| 06:01 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, brooke_ |
| 06:01 | * Brooke_ | gasps. |
| 06:01 | Brooke_ | wahanui: Māori? |
| 06:01 | wahanui | i haven't a clue, brooke_ |
| 06:01 | Brooke_ | tsc. |
| 06:06 | whanui: Te Rōpū Whakahau? | |
| 06:07 | wahanui: Te Rōpū Whakahau | |
| 06:07 | wahanui | Brooke_: excuse me? |
| 06:07 | * Brooke_ | grunts. |
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| 06:10 | SandeepBhavsar | hi all |
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| 06:35 | snail | evening all |
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| 06:58 | francharb | hello #koha |
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| 07:37 | rangi | evening |
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| 07:43 | paul_p | hello world |
| 07:44 | rangi | hi paul_p |
| 07:45 | paul_p | hi rangi. do you have a few mn now for a weekly debriefing ? |
| 07:45 | (debriefing = frenchism suspected...) | |
| 07:48 | rangi | yep |
| 07:48 | this week i have been working on 5575 | |
| 07:48 | paul_p | french govt gave the "legion d'honneur" yesterday to Steve Ballmer :( President Sarkozy said "we are happy to have Microsoft investing in France, and are grateful for this humanist company" (i'm not kidding, hélas...) |
| 07:48 | (back to 5575 ;-) ) | |
| 07:49 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]5&hide_resolved=1 |
| 07:49 | humanist? crazy | |
| 07:49 | paul_p | (yes, really, he said humanist...) |
| 07:51 | 5432 = hdl answered. Do you think we should fix something ? | |
| 07:52 | i'm afraid othernames & initials are used for different things depending on countries... | |
| 07:52 | 5728= nothing to say/add | |
| 07:52 | rangi | i think just carrying the surname is probably the best, but the main change needed there is to update both inc |
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| 07:53 | paul_p | 5730 = nothing to say/add |
| 07:53 | hdl | hi |
| 07:53 | rangi | yep, i havent pushed that yet but yu can see it in the catalyst repo |
| 07:53 | the ones with patch pushed | |
| 07:53 | need testing, so they can be marked resolved | |
| 07:53 | paul_p | they are pushed in master or in topic branches ? |
| 07:54 | why are they on catalyst repo & not on koha-community ? | |
| 07:54 | rangi | if patch pushed, they are in master |
| 07:55 | if they have a patch attached i have finished merging them and testing them | |
| 07:55 | if they dont have a patch attached, its because i think there are more patches later to be added | |
| 07:55 | paul_p | I think i'm still missing something with your workflow. I thought you putted topic branches on kc once you've checked the patch applied. Am I missing something? |
| 07:56 | rangi | no im sending patches when i have check the patch applies and i have grouped all the common changes together |
| 07:56 | the important thing to check is the patch status | |
| 07:56 | paul_p | ah, OK. So catalyst repo is for wip, while kc is for "sign-off/test" |
| 07:56 | rangi | yep thats right |
| 07:56 | paul_p | ok, got it! |
| 07:57 | rangi | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]bug_5575/bug_5728 |
| 07:57 | etc | |
| 07:57 | 5574 has all its patches attached | |
| 07:57 | 5575 is about halfway | |
| 07:57 | but already some signed off and merged so getting there :) | |
| 08:00 | paul_p | the 5432 is "patch sent / needs signoff", so I should have it on kc isn't it ? |
| 08:02 | rangi | its attached to the bug |
| 08:02 | and sent to the koha-patches list | |
| 08:04 | then when its signed off it gets made into a branch and merged | |
| 08:04 | like 5760 | |
| 08:05 | paul_p | too bad the dependancy graph don't display the status of the bug. That would really be handy ! |
| 08:06 | ok, so what I could do usefull would be to check all the bugs related to 5574/5575, and, for those who are "pushed, pls test", test & close ! | |
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| 08:09 | rangi | yes that would be perfect |
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| 08:11 | rangi | bugzilla 4 is out |
| 08:11 | so i might try upgrading | |
| 08:12 | paul_p | rangi, another question : there are already some bugfixes on some of those branches. how do you think we should deal with them ? 40% are patches not in a topic branch on git.biblibre.com and 60% of them are in a topic branch (and now, it should be 100% or 95%) ? |
| 08:13 | I would say that's something like 60 patches | |
| 08:13 | (related to the branches you're merging or not) | |
| 08:16 | rangi | yeah thats why its taking me a while because i am looking for the fixes on your other repo |
| 08:16 | usually by searching the log for the MT | |
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| 08:18 | paul_p | rangi, that's a good idea. But the problem is that new fixes are related to new MT from libraries. So a patch may be related to something in members, but don't contains any visible link to 5575 |
| 08:18 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:19 | hi paul_p | |
| 08:19 | paul_p | rangi, for example the patch 195ec93559277 I pushed yesterday (branch MT5441) |
| 08:19 | (not yesterday, feb 14th | |
| 08:19 | rangi | for those ones, ill need you to update the bug with where to get it from |
| 08:20 | when i have made bugs for all the parts of 5575 | |
| 08:20 | then we can check for follow ups | |
| 08:21 | paul_p | so it could be usefull if I attach to 5575 some follow-ups on git.biblibre.com, with patch id and/or branch ? |
| 08:21 | ('morning kf) | |
| 08:22 | rangi | yes, it would be |
| 08:23 | paul_p | rangi, ok, will try to do that. Probably not today, but will do ! |
| 08:24 | rangi | cool thanks |
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| 08:25 | paul_p | all: it's confirmed we have a student, starting on march 1st, for 6 months, that will be at least half-time dedicated to working on Koha patches integration & sign-off &... |
| 08:33 | magnuse | paul_p: cool! |
| 08:33 | rangi | ok, running version 4 now |
| 08:33 | cool paul_p | |
| 08:34 | http://www.bugzilla.org/releas[…]elease-notes.html | |
| 08:34 | paul_p | (hopefully, after the 6months, we will hire him :D ) |
| 08:34 | rangi | http://www.bugzilla.org/releas[…]html#v40_feat_dup |
| 08:34 | this will be helpful | |
| 08:35 | paul_p | Autocomplete for Users and Keywords => this one too ! |
| 08:36 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]gzilla3/query.cgi |
| 08:36 | nicer advanced search too | |
| 08:36 | http://www.bugzilla.org/releas[…]0_feat_ws_changes | |
| 08:36 | lots of nicer webservices | |
| 08:38 | magnuse | paul_p: good plan |
| 08:39 | kf | bugzilla++ :) |
| 08:39 | magnuse | rangi: Kiritaki Koha looks interesting, too bad my wife has the only android in the house... :-) |
| 08:39 | rangi | :) |
| 08:40 | magnuse | (and took it with her to work, of course...) |
| 08:41 | kf | hehe |
| 08:44 | * magnuse | is going to read this, about bibsys and oclc: http://www.researchinformation[…]hp?feature_id=308 |
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| 08:47 | paul_p | rangi, thx for this discussion, sweet dreams ! |
| 08:48 | rangi | thanks |
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| 09:19 | rangi | @quote random |
| 09:19 | huginn | rangi: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010) |
| 09:19 | rangi | @quote random |
| 09:19 | huginn | rangi: Quote #29: "< CGI634> kill self now avoid slow cataloging death" (added by chris at 09:32 PM, September 02, 2009) |
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| 10:18 | magnuse | oops, cloned myself by accident |
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| 10:20 | magnuse | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 10:20 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0�C (10:50 AM CET on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -15.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
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| 10:58 | paul_p | @wunder marseille, france |
| 10:58 | huginn | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 10.0�C (11:30 AM CET on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:59 | paul_p | magnuse, come to Marseille, the weather is better ;-) (in April, don't forget your swimming suit, the sea is usually OK) |
| 11:05 | magnuse | paul_p: i think i probably will |
| 11:05 | have you got any participants outside biblibre yet? | |
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| 11:18 | magnuse | hiya druthb |
| 11:19 | druthb | hi, magnus! :) |
| 11:21 | kf | hi druthb :) |
| 11:21 | druthb | :) guten tag, kf. |
| 11:22 | magnus: would "god dag" be saying it correctly? | |
| 11:23 | magnuse | druthb: yep |
| 11:23 | :-) | |
| 11:24 | and: god morgen|kveld = good morning|evening | |
| 11:25 | druthb | I'm trying to greet more of my friends in their own language, even if I can't get any more than that. :) For jwagner, I think the appropriate term is "Play Ball!" shouted enthusiastically. She speaks Baseball. |
| 11:25 | magnuse | hehe |
| 11:26 | * druthb | has learned some interesting German words from kf. Mostly foods--when KohaCon gets held in Germany, I won't starve. |
| 11:26 | magnuse | good to know. sauerkraut! |
| 11:27 | druthb | Käsefondue. mmmmmm |
| 11:28 | magnuse | ooh, good one |
| 11:28 | that reminds me: lunchtime! | |
| 11:28 | magnuse is now known as magnus_lunch | |
| 11:28 | druthb | hee hee... |
| 11:31 | * druthb | just cooked up an omelett med kalkun og ost...or an omelett mit käse und türkei, if you prefer... |
| 11:33 | kf | türkei? |
| 11:33 | druthb: it's truthahn | |
| 11:33 | türkei is the country :) | |
| 11:35 | * druthb | giggles insanely. |
| 11:35 | druthb | damn automated translation. I don't think we've bumped into that word before! |
| 11:36 | kf | because I seldom eat truthahn probably :) |
| 11:36 | druthb | Probably. This was some deli-sliced turkey, put it in as an experiment. Came out good! |
| 11:37 | kf | :) |
| 11:37 | I had müsli mit pekannuss | |
| 11:38 | druthb | ooo...granola with pecans! yum. |
| 11:39 | * kf | wonders what magnus has |
| 11:40 | magnus_lunch is now known as magnuse | |
| 11:41 | kf | magnuse: what is for lunch? |
| 11:42 | magnuse | kf: two slices of bread, one with chorizo from spain and one with locally made camambert-style cheese |
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| 11:47 | kf | hm |
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| 11:48 | kf | 2 scheiben brot, eine mit Chorizo aus Spanien und eine mit lokal hergestelltem camenbertartigem käse |
| 11:49 | * kf | is not the best translator |
| 11:50 | magnuse | in norwegian "artig" means funny... ;-) |
| 11:51 | * druthb | is a big fan of chorizo. *good* chorizo is kind of hard to get here in DC. |
| 11:54 | magnuse | this one was from when my wife went to the canary islands earlier this winter :-) |
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| 12:06 | druthb | oooh.... a netsplit! |
| 12:06 | magnuse | que? |
| 12:07 | has the internet split? doesn't sound good! | |
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| 12:09 | druthb | and we're all back! :D |
| 12:10 | magnuse: that happens when multiple IRC servers serve the same IP, in a load-balancer scheme. Those folks were all on the *other* side. | |
| 12:11 | magnuse | the dark side? *shivers* |
| 12:15 | druthb | kf would have seen *us* all drop off abruptly, just as we saw her and the rest drop. so maybe it was us on the dark side... :P |
| 12:20 | magnuse | oh no! ;-) |
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| 12:27 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 12:29 | nengard | morning jcamins and #koha |
| 12:29 | magnuse | good morning jcamins and nengard |
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| 12:52 | magnuse | hiya jwagner |
| 12:52 | jwagner | Hi magnuse |
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| 12:57 | magnuse | hiya NateC |
| 12:57 | NateC | morning! |
| 12:57 | magnuse | day! |
| 13:02 | jcamins | My sourdough starter says "hi" too. |
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| 13:06 | jwagner | Hi to the sourdough! |
| 13:07 | * kf | waves to the sourdough |
| 13:13 | * magnuse | greets the sourdough |
| 13:15 | paul_p | hi jcamins & sourdough |
| 13:16 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 13:17 | India. :) | |
| 13:17 | nengard | heh |
| 13:17 | by a landside | |
| 13:19 | magnuse | huh? |
| 13:19 | nengard | |
| 13:20 | magnuse | ah |
| 13:22 | yeah, that was quite a clear victory! ;-) and 877 votes is amazing | |
| 13:23 | paul_p | 877: 2 options = either there are 700 from India, and it clearly show a BIG interest for Koha in India, so it's good to have the KohaCon in India, or the votes are equally splitted around the world, and it's good to see 877 ppl are interested by the KohaCon11 ! |
| 13:24 | my bet= it's option 1 that is the occuring one. nengard if you want/can confirm? | |
| 13:24 | magnuse | i agree with nengard, we might want to settle some rules to make sure kohacon will alternate between continents/countries and then vote on 2012 |
| 13:24 | nengard | It looks like it was mostly people in India |
| 13:25 | magnuse I think we already agreed it won't be in the same country two years in a row | |
| 13:25 | but maybe we need more rules so it rotates around the world better | |
| 13:25 | magnuse | nengard: ah, ok good |
| 13:25 | kf | nengard: the survey said it's anonymous on the front page - so I think we should not post the data on the wiki or elsewhere |
| 13:26 | nengard | I can send the raw results to anyone who wants to see |
| 13:26 | okey dokey kf | |
| 13:32 | paul_p | kf++ (for anonymous results) |
| 13:33 | ++ with the idea of rotating : next year in Europe or Africa ! | |
| 13:33 | (in Africa, i've a doubt anyone could volunteer to organize, but a reliable project would have my vote, no doudts !) | |
| 13:34 | magnuse | hm, if the us and india are the biggies of the koha world we could end up with kohacon there alternate years, there should be some guarantee that other continents get a chance too, i think |
| 13:35 | kf | europe! |
| 13:35 | jcamins | South America! |
| 13:35 | magnuse | antarctica! |
| 13:36 | kf | hehe |
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| 13:36 | * jcamins | has never been to South America or Antarctica. |
| 13:36 | jcamins | Nor Australia/Oceania, for that matter. |
| 13:38 | I've been to North America, Europe, Asia, and Africa, though. :) | |
| 13:38 | * jcamins | thinks this settles it- clearly KohaCon 2012 needs to be in Antarctica. ;) |
| 13:38 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:39 | paul_p | jcamins, well, in Europe, it's so different between Spain, Switzerland, norway (just to name 4), that you can't just say "i've been to Europe". Well... it's the same for most continents, I agree ;-) |
| 13:39 | jcamins | paul_p: eventually I'll visit every single country, but right now visiting every continent is a challenge. ;) |
| 13:40 | kf | paul_p++ |
| 13:40 | jcamins | I've also only been to Morocco in Africa, so that hardly counts at all. |
| 13:40 | paul_p | (carefull readers noticing that Spain/switzerland & norway are just 3, not 4 :D) |
| 13:40 | jcamins | paul_p: I thought France was implied. |
| 13:41 | paul_p | nope. Because France is so beautifull & special & wonderfull & great & cute & ... that you can't compare it to any other country in the world ! (ps : kidding ;-) ) |
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| 13:41 | hdl | Congrats Thane |
| 13:43 | magnuse | yeah, congrats to thane! |
| 13:43 | nengard | PDF of results linked here: http://koha-community.org/kohacon-2011-votes/ |
| 13:43 | jcamins | paul_p: also, my time on the continent of Asia was limited to Afghanistan, so I hardly count that as representative either. |
| 13:45 | Huh. | |
| 13:45 | paul_p | nengard, is it my pdf reader or most pages are almost blank with a small "HT" in a square and a few grey lines ? |
| 13:46 | jcamins | I think paul_p's first guess was right. |
| 13:46 | nengard | paul_p most pages are blank |
| 13:46 | jcamins | paul_p: I think that's the way it is, because I noticed lots of blank pages too. |
| 13:46 | nengard | the survey app generated an ugly pdf :) |
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| 14:00 | jcamins | Does the long overdue task send e-mails? |
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| 14:16 | tcohen | i'm just about to fill a bug asking for authorities add/change/remove logging |
| 14:17 | has anyone thoght about it before and has some concerns? | |
| 14:17 | (about such a feature) | |
| 14:20 | jcamins | tcohen: that sounds like a good idea to me. |
| 14:20 | My cat is also interested to hear more. ;) | |
| 14:21 | tcohen | jcamins :D |
| 14:24 | kf | jcamins: I think druthb said this script needs to be rewritetn |
| 14:24 | jcamins | kf: which script? |
| 14:24 | kf | jcamins: we never tried to use it - but perhaps you should ask her about it |
| 14:24 | the longoverdoes thing | |
| 14:24 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 14:24 | I decided to just disable the network card so that no e-mail would go out. | |
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| 14:26 | wizzyrea | I always miss the fun conversation |
| 14:26 | jcamins | wizzyrea: why's that? |
| 14:26 | wizzyrea | I missed the discussion of chorizo, world travel, and your cat |
| 14:26 | kf | lol |
| 14:27 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 14:27 | jcamins | I, too, missed the discussion of chorizo. |
| 14:27 | kf | because you are busy with the important things? :) |
| 14:27 | jwagner | But at least his sourdough is joining the conversation now |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | I consider taking showers important, yes :) |
| 14:28 | jcamins | My cat says taking a shower constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | so does my 3 year old |
| 14:28 | nengard | ha! |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | he'd much rather "play in the tub with toys" |
| 14:28 | do note the word "bath" is nowhere in that phrase | |
| 14:29 | jcamins | wizzyrea: well, of course. A bath is probably cruel and unusual too. |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | but he *asks* to play in the tub with toys... with water and soap |
| 14:29 | so it counts :) | |
| 14:29 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 14:30 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 15.3�C (8:32 AM CST on February 17, 2011). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000.2 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | ^^ it's feb. In kansas. That is not right. |
| 14:30 | awesome, but weird. | |
| 14:31 | lovely breeze from the south | |
| 14:34 | jcamins | My second-to-youngest brother passed his driving test. |
| 14:35 | kf | hm who is going to answer that mail on [koha]? |
| 14:37 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 14:37 | wizzyrea | oh my |
| 14:38 | where to even start there. | |
| 14:39 | does anyone remember a definitive blog post that we could point him to | |
| 14:39 | something already done | |
| 14:39 | or a mailing list post | |
| 14:39 | kf | hm, there is the first post on the website - but it's perhaps not specific enough |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | we really ought to have a stock answer for that |
| 14:39 | thd-away is now known as thd | |
| 14:40 | wizzyrea | maybe owen did something... |
| 14:40 | * jcamins | is too busy being horrified by the fact that his second-to-youngest brother can *drive* to focus on the question at hand, sorry. |
| 14:40 | wizzyrea | how much younger is he? |
| 14:40 | jcamins | 8 years. |
| 14:41 | In no time at all my youngest brother is going to be driving. | |
| 14:41 | thd | nengard: Are you able to upload a CSV file now? |
| 14:41 | nengard | i sent it to galen - but he's removing all identifying info before he uploads it |
| 14:42 | gmcharlt | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ts-anonymized.csv |
| 14:43 | thd | nengard: All identifying info? |
| 14:43 | nengard | emails and names |
| 14:43 | thd | gmcharlt: If we have no identifying info then we have an easy case for voter fraud with an open electorate. |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | we *have* the info, it's just not *public* |
| 14:44 | but could likely be provided on request, correct? | |
| 14:45 | kf | wizzyrea: I don't think it would be right to do it |
| 14:45 | not sure what the statement on the front page exactly said | |
| 14:45 | but I remember the word anonymous | |
| 14:45 | nengard | thd we can send you the raw results - but we don't want that posted on the wiki where others can grab our info |
| 14:45 | thd | wizzyrea: As long as it is clear that it is available for inspection then we have a sufficiently transparent process. |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | I think that's clear |
| 14:45 | nengard | thd do you want me to send it to you? |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | it's clear to me anyway |
| 14:46 | nengard | I did say I'd share with anyone if you asked for it |
| 14:46 | wizzyrea | ^^ clear enough for me |
| 14:46 | thd | nengard: I assumed that you checked for excessive duplications of info :) |
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| 14:47 | nengard | there is an excessive duplication of info - but that's on the institution level and you can see that on the wiki |
| 14:47 | no names or emails were repeated | |
| 14:47 | there were a couple names that weren't real but not enough to skew the results | |
| 14:47 | thd | I found the number of votes a little surprising but South Asia is very densely populated. |
| 14:48 | nengard | yup |
| 14:49 | thd | As long as it is seen to be fair and sufficiently transparent that is fine. |
| 14:49 | nengard | k |
| 14:49 | jcamins | Fortunately there will be another KohaCon next year, so anyone who feels aggrieved can submit another proposal. |
| 14:49 | :) | |
| 14:50 | nengard | and we already said it won't be in the same country two times in a row |
| 14:50 | so India can't win again next year | |
| 14:50 | magnuse | yeah, and lets get that ball rolling the sooner the better ;-) |
| 14:50 | nengard | yes |
| 14:50 | agreed | |
| 14:50 | I'll set it up whenever you all ask me to do so | |
| 14:50 | kf | perhaps continent would be better |
| 14:50 | not the same continent twice | |
| 14:51 | nengard | that's fine with me too |
| 14:51 | makes sense | |
| 14:51 | jcamins | kf: that would make sense, though paul_p would probably suggest that France and England are continents apart. ;) |
| 14:51 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:51 | kf | hehe |
| 14:52 | paul_p | lol |
| 14:53 | Note that France already had the 1st KohaCon (in 2006), and there is a yearly french conference organized by Kohala. So i don't think anyone will candidate for a long time | |
| 14:54 | kf | hmpf :) |
| 14:54 | magnuse | i would suggest having two or even three kohacons before it can return to the same country/continent, or we might end up alternating between the us and india (which are both fine countries, but giving europe, africa, oceania... a chance now and then would be nice too ;-) |
| 14:55 | thd | nengard: Do you know why the timestamps are all the same? |
| 14:55 | magnuse | paul_p: no interest in expanding the french conf to a global conf for one year? |
| 14:55 | jcamins | magnuse: if they did that they'd only get one Koha conference. I can see the logic. |
| 14:55 | paul_p | magnuse, you know what's the pain with frenchies ? they speak french :D |
| 14:55 | kf | paup_p: same thought here |
| 14:56 | yep, that's really a pain | |
| 14:56 | * kf | ducks |
| 14:56 | magnuse | ok, we could give them/you some years to learn english first... ;-) |
| 14:56 | kf | no, the real pain is that _I_ don't speak french |
| 14:56 | * magnuse | ducks |
| 14:57 | nengard | thd looks like a setting is off on limesurvey or on my server |
| 14:58 | thd | paul_p: French seems half English if written out. The bigger problem is that the French speak to quickly and I cannot separate the sounds well enough. |
| 14:59 | s/sounds/words/ | |
| 15:00 | * thd | level of French still seems less than a one year old. Such a difficult language. |
| 15:13 | hdl | btw paul_p would you also announce the Kohala meeting soon in France on koha lists ? |
| 15:15 | thd | I expect that VPM will need some large hall for KohaCon. |
| 15:16 | jcamins | thd: if they have that many people attending, I'd say so! |
| 15:16 | nengard | webinar time - ttyl |
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| 15:18 | druthb | Wi-fi on a *bus*. who knew? |
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| 15:19 | magnuse | druthb: the airport shuttle in wellington has that, apparently ;-) |
| 15:20 | rhcl_away | wouldn't it be cool if hudson could translate? something like: |
| 15:20 | @hudson translate "Lorsque j'affecte un ticket à un "Groupe demandeur" les membres de ce groupe ne visualisent pas le ticket en question (à l'exception évidemment du demandeur originel)." | |
| 15:20 | huginn | rhcl_away: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 15:20 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 15:20 | rhcl_away is now known as rhcl | |
| 15:20 | jcamins | i'll give you the answer as soon as rda? |
| 15:21 | rhcl | beats me. Not my day to watch hudson |
| 15:21 | jcamins | the answer as soon as rda? |
| 15:21 | I wonder what Wahanui was responding to. | |
| 15:22 | druthb | wahanui: RDA is ready |
| 15:22 | wahanui | ...but rda is a room in a twisty maze of standards... |
| 15:22 | druthb | lol |
| 15:23 | rhcl | you have to use an onion router then |
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| 15:34 | * jwagner | hands druthb the Velcro |
| 15:34 | druthb | thanx, jwagner. :) |
| 15:34 | * druthb | puts on her seatbelt, just for good measure. |
| 15:35 | is stuck on I-95 somewhere between DC and Bawlmer...but at least the wi-fi sorta works. | |
| 15:37 | jwagner | Ya know, I remember complaints from various road trips in the dim and distant pass, where the silver lining was "at least the radio works" -- my how times change.... |
| 15:37 | * druthb | giggles. |
| 15:37 | jcamins | jwagner: it's much the same thing... wifi is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, too. |
| 15:38 | jwagner | But not as useful in pacifying the "are we there yet" backseat crowd, unless all of them have laptops/wifi devices :-) |
| 15:39 | oleonard | Imagine if you could only receive certain parts of the internet depending on where you were on the road. |
| 15:39 | jwagner | oleonard, Google Maps takes over the Internet? |
| 15:39 | oleonard | "Oh man the internet here in western Kansas is awful! All I can get is farming web sites!" |
| 15:40 | druthb | oleonard: That is, in fact, the case here--I'm having to use Mibbit, and SSH is no-go. whole big chunks of the Internet landscape are blacked out... :P |
| 15:41 | * druthb | spends too much of her time crawling around in the low-level protocols of the Internets, possibly. |
| 15:42 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
| 15:46 | rangi | druthb: there's an easy fix for that, run a ssh server on port 80, thats what i do |
| 15:47 | and yes, i shouldnt be awake, kahu has a stomach bug :( | |
| 15:49 | * jwagner | sends Kahu sympathy and Pepto-Bismol |
| 15:49 | sends rangi a stiff drink :-) | |
| 15:49 | gmcharlt | rangi: just don't confuse the two ;) |
| 15:50 | * druthb | seeks out the tranquiliser darts. |
| 15:53 | rangi | heh |
| 15:54 | * druthb | would use tranquilizer darts, but they might not work on kiwis, because of the mis-spelling. |
| 15:58 | jcamins | I don't understand how Farmington comes up with so many problems. |
| 15:59 | * paul_p | sing a french song to help kahu falling asleep again... |
| 15:59 | jcamins | Whoops, sorry about that last. |
| 15:59 | Wrong window. | |
| 16:00 | oleonard | Pesky customers ;) |
| 16:00 | jcamins | oleonard: no, pesky bugs! |
| 16:00 | oleonard | Ah, then the customers are doing valuable bug-hunting! |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Yes, what's baffling to me is all the finding! They're finding edge cases for me that I would _never_ find on my own. |
| 16:01 | paul_p | oleonard, lol. How life would be easier without librarians... hey... but ... without librarians no libraries, no Koha, no BibLibre, no money for my family, homeless man. Well, all counted, good customers :D |
| 16:01 | gmcharlt | paul_p++ |
| 16:04 | druthb | paul_p++ |
| 16:05 | * druthb | tries to picture paul_p as a homeless hobo, and fails. He'd look classy even doing that... |
| 16:05 | * oleonard | was thinking the same thing |
| 16:05 | * jcamins | tries to picture paul_p as a homeless hobo and fails. He doesn't know what paul_p looks like. |
| 16:05 | oleonard | paul_p would also make for an intimidatingly tall homeless man |
| 16:06 | paul_p | jcamins, choose the one you want : http://www.google.com/images?c[…]&biw=1676&bih=907 :D |
| 16:06 | oleonard | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450102567/ |
| 16:07 | jcamins | Wow. Yes, intimidatingly tall. |
| 16:07 | And, indeed, very classy. | |
| 16:07 | :) | |
| 16:08 | druthb | that's schuster with him in the flickr pic, jcamins, and schuster is kinda shortish; I'm nearly a full head taller than schuster, so paul_p is about eyebrows-up taller than me. |
| 16:09 | jcamins | druthb: you'd be kind of intimidatingly tall as a hobo, too. |
| 16:09 | paul_p | for everyone information: i'm 1m94 So tall, but not NBA-size tall ;-) |
| 16:10 | druthb | well, yes, I would. Now, who is *this* hairy beast? http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3453204741 |
| 16:10 | * jcamins | is ~1m76 tall. Quite a lot shorter. |
| 16:12 | * oleonard | gets sucked into looking at KohaCon photos... |
| 16:13 | * sekjal | was there, but probably isn't in any of the pics |
| 16:14 | * druthb | was there, but is only in a few very-regrettable pictures, like that one. |
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| 16:16 | * druthb | waves to nengard from somewhere north of Baltimore. |
| 16:17 | sekjal | yup, I think I managed to stay completely invisible for that conference. |
| 16:17 | druthb | sekjal, if nengard didn't get any pix of you, then none where taken, I think. She was pretty camera-happy there. |
| 16:18 | s/where/were/ | |
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| 16:18 | nengard | which conference? |
| 16:18 | druthb | KohaCon 09 |
| 16:18 | nengard | ian you were there? |
| 16:18 | sekjal | yup |
| 16:18 | nengard | I didn't remember nate being there either until i went through my pics :) |
| 16:18 | I'll have to see if you're in any of them :) | |
| 16:18 | i was running around like a maniac there | |
| 16:19 | no comment from druthb needed | |
| 16:19 | druthb | hehehe... |
| 16:19 | * druthb | mutters something you cannot quite hear. |
| 16:19 | nengard | http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]2157616772558301/ |
| 16:19 | I could leave you at that train station you know | |
| 16:20 | druthb | I don't think you would do that. |
| 16:20 | jwagner | druthb, see http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]2157616772558301/ |
| 16:20 | * jwagner | chortles |
| 16:21 | druthb | @quote get 102 |
| 16:21 | huginn | druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010) |
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| 16:22 | nengard | wow i took some blurry pics |
| 16:23 | wizzyrea | i think the wal mart trip ones are my favorite lol |
| 16:23 | druthb | nengard has this talent for grabbing me in less-than-flattering photos. (It's not hard; she's not the only one with that particular talent) |
| 16:23 | nengard | wizzyrea that was fun :) hehe |
| 16:23 | i like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]2157616772558301/ | |
| 16:24 | wizzyrea | this is the cheesecake that joetho threw at pianohacker |
| 16:24 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]2157616772558301/ | |
| 16:24 | haha | |
| 16:24 | that is a good one nengard | |
| 16:25 | you know I did not remember that I had dinner with daniel grobani | |
| 16:25 | nengard | hehe |
| 16:25 | glad i'm not alone in this | |
| 16:25 | i remember so little | |
| 16:25 | wizzyrea | haha! |
| 16:26 | nengard | then again i was not happy at that time so i blocked a lot out |
| 16:26 | wizzyrea | I remember this tho: http://www.flickr.com/photos/n[…]2157616772558301/ |
| 16:26 | nengard | :) |
| 16:26 | okay i went through them all - no ian anywhere! | |
| 16:27 | rangi | there is one |
| 16:27 | might be in galens or lees | |
| 16:27 | wizzyrea | can I just say, I'm so grateful to have you all as friends. |
| 16:28 | sekjal | awww! |
| 16:28 | * druthb | agrees with wizzyrea. |
| 16:28 | gmcharlt | http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmcharlt/4379557354/ |
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| 16:28 | * jcamins | too |
| 16:28 | druthb | My life, has been truly blessed by y'all. |
| 16:28 | wizzyrea | AHA |
| 16:29 | it is a rare sighting of sekjal in the wild | |
| 16:29 | gmcharlt | he moves so quickly that I couldn't get a clear picture |
| 16:29 | sekjal | you can see that I'm naturally drawn to the shadows... |
| 16:29 | gmcharlt | (well, that's my story and I'm sticking by it ;) ) |
| 16:29 | * sekjal | has a goth moment |
| 16:30 | druthb | gmcharlt: blame the camera. |
| 16:30 | wizzyrea | he also hisses and has fangs |
| 16:30 | true story | |
| 16:30 | wait | |
| 16:30 | no he doesn't | |
| 16:32 | nengard | sekjal i think you told me like 3 times that you gave a talk at kohacon09 ... such a crap memory |
| 16:32 | sekjal | sometimes there is hissing... mostly at my cats, though |
| 16:32 | nengard: I didn't give a talk, but I did stand up with an idea at one point | |
| 16:33 | nengard | got it |
| 16:35 | rangi | heres a fun photo |
| 16:36 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/t[…]2/in/photostream/ | |
| 16:36 | nengard | oleonard++ |
| 16:36 | (catching up on emails) | |
| 16:36 | rangi | and close up |
| 16:36 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/t[…]1/in/photostream/ | |
| 16:36 | gotta love foo camp | |
| 16:37 | nengard | rangi that is too funny |
| 16:37 | wasn't sure what i was looking at in the far out pic | |
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| 16:40 | * liw | waves and regrets kohacon non-attendance |
| 16:41 | * sekjal | is looking forward to KohaCon '11 |
| 16:42 | nengard | nengard is going to miss kohacon 11 |
| 16:42 | * druthb | is hoping the boss will send her to KohaCon 11 |
| 16:42 | liw | has the location been decided? |
| 16:42 | rangi | http://www.flickr.com/photos/t[…]6/in/photostream/ |
| 16:42 | nengard | liw read the blog :) |
| 16:43 | rangi | hehe, everyone is listening cept some tall koha dude who is too busy drinking |
| 16:43 | liw | except for this channel, I'm entirely detached from Koha :( |
| 16:43 | wizzyrea | you lush |
| 16:44 | nengard | liw, yes Thane was chosen |
| 16:45 | liw | and I can't find the blog url on koha-community.org easily |
| 16:45 | jcamins | liw: it's the front page. :) |
| 16:45 | liw | ah, too obvious |
| 16:45 | oleonard_ | You just have to scroll down past "About this site" |
| 16:45 | oleonard_ is now known as oleonard | |
| 16:46 | liw | India, eh |
| 16:46 | oleonard | Travelocity says ~ $1200 from where I am. |
| 16:48 | nengard | one of the reasons i won't be going |
| 16:48 | can't afford that two years in a row | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | As little as ~$1100 from NYC. |
| 16:48 | * oleonard | was hoping for something a little closer this year |
| 16:48 | nengard | yup |
| 16:48 | me too | |
| 16:48 | oleonard | But I hate to miss two in a row. |
| 16:49 | nengard | not traveling with a crutch again |
| 16:49 | oleonard | My wife will want to send me just so I won't grump around the house the whole week like I did in 2010. |
| 16:50 | druthb | 1300-ish for me...DC to NYC then to Mumbai via either Doha or Abu Dhabi or Istanbul. |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Istanbul is the least expensive from NYC. |
| 16:51 | liw | this is why the free software world needs its own Zeppelin |
| 16:52 | druthb | istanbul makes for the cheapest route for me, via Chicago, of all things. |
| 16:52 | * jcamins | would prefer to fly through Istanbul than Abu Dhabi. |
| 16:53 | rangi | 1903 $nzd is the cheapest i can get |
| 16:53 | * druthb | would prefer to fly *with* someone else, regardless of where. jcamins, sekjal, if you guys are going, let's plan for that, hm? |
| 16:54 | oleonard | Yeah, but could you bear having the song in your head the whole time jcamins? http://vimeo.com/6746927 |
| 16:54 | * druthb | suspects she knows what oleonard linked, and resists the psuedo-rick-roll. |
| 16:54 | sekjal | druthb: yes, we can definitely arrange same-planes. |
| 16:54 | jcamins | oleonard: I don't know the song very well. |
| 16:54 | Anyway, I've already been to Istanbul. | |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea | listen a few times it's not hard to learn >.> |
| 16:55 | * wizzyrea | curses oleonard for now getting that stuck in my head |
| 16:55 | jcamins | druthb: yes, that's a good idea. |
| 16:55 | Shari may want to come. Of course, last time Shari went to India she was sick for six months. | |
| 16:56 | wizzyrea | !! |
| 16:56 | rangi | im going to be just getting back to nz from canada right about then, so might not be making it either |
| 16:56 | oleonard | No rangi at KohaCon?! |
| 16:56 | * oleonard | will stay home and sulk |
| 16:56 | druthb | sekjal, jcamins: thanx. I'm relatively certain I could do it alone....but let's not tempt fate un-necessarily. |
| 16:57 | nengard | oleonard that's what i'll be doing :) hehe |
| 16:57 | sekjal | nengard and I were on the same planes, both ways, totally by accident, and it was very nice |
| 16:57 | nengard | rangi what dates are the canada trip? |
| 16:57 | yes, bengard kept sekjal company while i slept :) | |
| 16:58 | and both boys used my wheelchair to get them through security faster :) | |
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| 16:58 | Brooke_ | kia ora!!!! |
| 16:59 | nengard | i knew she'd be happy :) |
| 16:59 | * Brooke_ | is overstimulated. |
| 17:01 | rangi | nengard: http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/ |
| 17:02 | im speaking there, you should come | |
| 17:02 | that goes for everyone | |
| 17:02 | nengard | rangi that's why i asked - cause i might be able to do that instead of kohacon |
| 17:03 | yikes | |
| 17:03 | pretty close to internet librarian which is (October 17 ? 19, 2011) | |
| 17:04 | rangi | yeah, but access is about a million times cooler |
| 17:04 | nengard | internet librarian promotes my books - including the one that shold be out that month |
| 17:04 | kinda got to make an appearance | |
| 17:04 | but i'll see what i can work out | |
| 17:05 | both are west coast so i should be able to make it work | |
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| 17:07 | thd is now known as thd-away | |
| 17:13 | sekjal | wehoo! got positive reports on a live SIP machine that my Unicode patch works |
| 17:13 | Brooke_ | :) |
| 17:13 | wizzyrea | <3 |
| 17:14 | sekjal++ | |
| 17:14 | * wizzyrea | hugs sekjal |
| 17:14 | Brooke_ | sekjal just does things for the attentions of the ladies. |
| 17:14 | * Brooke_ | ducks. |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea | does that mean we can check out pokémon now? |
| 17:14 | sekjal | testing with another client right now |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea | through self checks? |
| 17:14 | sekjal | wizzyrea: yes, that's what this patch does |
| 17:14 | wizzyrea | I LOVE YOU. |
| 17:14 | <3 | |
| 17:15 | but seriously, good job | |
| 17:15 | way to spank the SIP into submission! | |
| 17:16 | sekjal | I based my work off http://www.mail-archive.com/op[…]org/msg04127.html |
| 17:16 | wizzyrea | that bug has been an annoyance to us since we went live on koha |
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| 17:17 | jcamins | Things that are probably a bad sign: 1. I cannot restart my computer. |
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| 17:18 | sekjal | Brooke_: don't think that your comment went unnoticed. |
| 17:18 | Brooke_ | >:) |
| 17:18 | * wizzyrea | loves sekjal in a "he fixes many problems that we care about can we please keep him" kind of way |
| 17:19 | nengard | :) |
| 17:19 | * druthb | checks the log... |
| 17:19 | pounces on the "we love sekjal" bandwagon. | |
| 17:19 | oleonard | nengard: Your Mac/Chrome/Calendar bug has an interesting explanation |
| 17:19 | nengard | do i want to hear it? |
| 17:20 | wizzyrea | does it have to do with gnomes? |
| 17:20 | oleonard | The calendar widget's CSS uses a now-deprecated CSS property called "system colors" |
| 17:20 | http://www.iangraham.org/books[…]te-23feb2000.html | |
| 17:20 | * jcamins | swears off of computers. |
| 17:20 | nengard | so that means you can fix it? :) |
| 17:20 | oleonard | When you set the background color to "ActiveCaption" as it does, the browser is supposed to know what your computer's system uses for "Active window caption" |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | jcamins: that will make your job difficult, no? |
| 17:21 | oleonard | Obviously Chrome on the Mac has a problem with this. |
| 17:21 | jcamins | wizzyrea: not as difficult as computers make my job. |
| 17:22 | oleonard: funny you should mention that. It would seem Chrome on the Mac has lots of problems. | |
| 17:22 | oleonard | nengard: What I'd like to do is ditch that calendar widget and use the default jQueryUI version, but I'm not sure if everyone would go for that |
| 17:22 | The widget we use does have more features | |
| 17:22 | nengard | you're the expert so i defer to you on all design type decisions |
| 17:24 | Brooke_ | the unwashed masses have <3d oleonard's decisions in past. |
| 17:24 | rangi | im all for using default jquery where we can |
| 17:24 | jcamins | Yup. Chrome crashed my computer by freezing the GPU. |
| 17:25 | How does that even make sense? | |
| 17:25 | rhcl | maybe you got hit early? |
| 17:25 | http://www.popsci.com/technolo[…]lam-earth-tonight | |
| 17:25 | rangi | because it is updated, and is in debian |
| 17:25 | * wizzyrea | must be unique: I have had so little issue with chrome |
| 17:25 | rangi | if its not packaged, i dont want it |
| 17:25 | i might put that on a tshirt | |
| 17:26 | * Brooke_ | cheers rangi |
| 17:26 | rangi | or |
| 17:26 | if its not packaged, ill make robin package it | |
| 17:26 | :) | |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | oh snap |
| 17:26 | Brooke_ | why do these people in my inbox not understand that I'm the c64 of cataloguing? |
| 17:27 | rangi | liw created a monster :) |
| 17:27 | liw | rangi, I want that t-shirt too! |
| 17:31 | rangi | :) |
| 17:31 | whats a good shirt place, that isnt cafepress? | |
| 17:32 | http://access2011.library.ubc.ca/program/ <-- call for submissions just went out | |
| 17:32 | druthb | I have used zazzle with decent results, though neither zazzle or cafepress has much in the way of plus-size women's stuff. Very annoying. |
| 17:32 | oleonard | nengard: Your interim solution is to add this to IntranetUserCSS: div.calendar thead td.title { background: #DDD none; } |
| 17:32 | Brooke_ | dunno, got me cataloguing polo from cafespress in the before time |
| 17:33 | oleonard | nengard: ...or your color of choice :) |
| 17:33 | sekjal | aaaaaaaaaaaand, the patch works at the second library (which also tested for patrons with diacritics in their names) |
| 17:33 | * oleonard | hands out hot pink calendar widgets for everyone |
| 17:33 | sekjal | going to wrap it up and submit |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea | woohoowoohoowoohoo |
| 17:35 | rangi | someone better sign off on it |
| 17:35 | and while i mention it | |
| 17:36 | 168! | |
| 17:36 | rhcl | who gets the profits (if any) from this: http://shop.cafepress.com/koha |
| 17:37 | rangi | +136 pushed |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | liblime owns that |
| 17:37 | rhcl | we need a koha-community one |
| 17:38 | and we need some official Koha colors | |
| 17:38 | and a Koha mascot | |
| 17:38 | * jcamins | suggests his sourdough starter makes an excellent mascot. :) |
| 17:38 | rhcl | and an official Koha bird |
| 17:38 | A duck would be nice | |
| 17:41 | druthb | jcamins: I second the nomination of your sourcough starter. |
| 17:41 | nengard is now known as nengard_lunch | |
| 17:41 | druthb | as long as you open-source it. ;-) |
| 17:41 | Brooke_ | I think his sourdough starter |
| 17:41 | rangi | http://www.theopensauce.com/ |
| 17:42 | Brooke_ | probably bears a startling resemblance to the blobbies from the wayback |
| 17:42 | jcamins | rangi: nifty. |
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| 17:52 | gmcharlt | rhcl: there once was a mascot - http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmcharlt/3446992795/ |
| 17:53 | rhcl | yea, ok. Looks like a gingerbread man, but I suppose he could be fashioned out of sourdough |
| 17:54 | Brooke_ | :) |
| 17:54 | rangi | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/3450085059/ <-- and tshirts with it on |
| 17:55 | Brooke_ | Ms. Blake, QSM is in possession of a hoodie for instance |
| 17:55 | sekjal | all this flickr-ry has gotten me looking at my old albums... |
| 17:57 | rhcl | is/was purple a semi-official Koha color? |
| 17:57 | I like purple. | |
| 17:58 | Brooke_ | gero purpurum |
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| 18:21 | tcohen | Biblio::ModZebra -> if (nozebra,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
| 18:21 | gmcharlt | tcohen: and? |
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| 18:22 | tcohen | I think we should call that function other way |
| 18:23 | gmcharlt | ReindexBiblio or RequestBiblioReindex or something like that? |
| 18:23 | tcohen | yes |
| 18:24 | by the way, do u know if the bug in indexdata stuff that prevents us from use ModZebrafiles | |
| 18:24 | is still open? | |
| 18:25 | hdl | Where is that function ModZebrafiles ? |
| 18:26 | tcohen | it's commented out, just before ModZebra in Biblio.pm |
| 18:26 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_away | |
| 18:27 | hdl | tcohen: I guess it would be quite easy to test. |
| 18:28 | launch more than one zebraidx update at once | |
| 18:28 | tcohen | i'm just reading the Biblio.pm and AuthoritiesMarc.pm code to provide a patch for a bug i plan to open |
| 18:28 | for logging authorities add/mod/del actions | |
| 18:29 | hdl: i'll give it a try | |
| 18:29 | i should: generate several xml files, run several zebraidx onthem at the same time? | |
| 18:30 | nengard_lunch is now known as nengard | |
| 18:31 | hdl | tcohen: yes |
| 18:31 | have a nice evening | |
| 18:32 | tcohen | hdl: thanks |
| 18:32 | rangi | Hdl I will try to be at the persistance meeting |
| 18:32 | I may fall asleep but will try :) | |
| 18:34 | This bus is older than I am | |
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| 18:35 | nengard | rangi thanks for that open sauce link!! |
| 18:35 | I've signed up :0 | |
| 18:35 | :) | |
| 18:35 | rangi | Cool :) |
| 18:39 | Its been round a while | |
| 18:39 | I used it when I was at katipo at least | |
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| 18:41 | * rangi | is writing his abstract for access |
| 18:41 | rangi | I should submit it with all the wrong autocorrects |
| 18:41 | That would be pretty fun | |
| 18:47 | sekjal: did you see fredericd email? | |
| 18:47 | sekjal | yes |
| 18:48 | as well as dpavlin's comment on the bug report | |
| 18:48 | rangi | I guess we need to add a config variable? |
| 18:48 | Ahh what did he say? Same thing? | |
| 18:49 | sekjal | he implemented it a different way |
| 18:49 | bug 4828 | |
| 18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4828 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED, Erroneous SIP2 behaviour with non ascii characters |
| 18:49 | sekjal | yes, a config variable would be a good thing, if this isn't a univeral problem for all SIP machines |
| 18:50 | rangi | Ahhh |
| 18:50 | Cool | |
| 18:50 | Its all forward movement :) | |
| 18:50 | sekjal | the code I copied and modified has a conditional that could be expanded on easily enough |
| 18:50 | instead of hard-setting the value, use a config variable | |
| 18:52 | looking at the config file now, trying to think where I could dump the variable that makes sense | |
| 18:52 | rangi | Sweet |
| 18:53 | sekjal | probably in <service>, rather than <accounts> |
| 18:55 | rangi | Yeah problem is |
| 18:55 | What if you have a mix? | |
| 18:55 | One new one old machine | |
| 18:55 | I guess u run 2 servers | |
| 18:57 | sekjal | if it's at the <service> level, you'd just be on different ports |
| 18:57 | or protocols or timeouts | |
| 18:57 | rangi | Sweet |
| 18:58 | Ok my stop bbiab | |
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| 19:13 | wizzyrea | you'll all be happy to know that the kudos website is now located at kudos.koha-community.org :) |
| 19:14 | mtj | wizzyrea++ |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | (the old url will still work, just fyi) |
| 19:14 | oleonard | Hooray! |
| 19:14 | mtj | cheers liz |
| 19:14 | rangi | wizzyrea: not in my books it wont |
| 19:14 | :) | |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:21 | mtj | oooh, nabble++ |
| 19:21 | http://nabble-support.1.n2.nab[…]ss-td6029182.html | |
| 19:21 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/ | |
| 19:22 | i've wanted that one fixed for a while now… ;) | |
| 19:24 | rangi | :) |
| 19:24 | * wizzyrea | wonders if that broke the RSS feeds on the website, adds it to her list |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea | of things to check |
| 19:24 | I suspect it didn't | |
| 19:27 | mtj | updating/correcting the nabble stuff might be my little project |
| 19:28 | * wizzyrea | makes sure you have rights |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | to do that |
| 19:28 | mtj | … theres some other little corrections needed for Koha stuff on nabble |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | ohh nabble makes much prettier RSS feeds than gmane |
| 19:31 | http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ | |
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| 19:38 | * oleonard | wonders what kind of serials data you need to reproduce nengard's results in Bug 5768... |
| 19:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5768 minor, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, serial enumeration appearing twice in staff client |
| 19:46 | oleonard | My catalog seems to be displaying "enumchron" but not "serialseq" |
| 19:49 | ...or maybe the other way around... | |
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| 20:43 | rangi | ahh found it |
| 20:44 | here is the song i was looking for when i was talking about forward movement | |
| 20:44 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kxhHIOehQw | |
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| 20:56 | francharb1 | bye all |
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| 21:08 | cait | hi #koha |
| 21:09 | eythian | hoi cait |
| 21:09 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 21:09 | rangi | hi cait |
| 21:10 | cait | hi rangi :) |
| 21:11 | hm I agree about the sip things - I think it even works with hebrew | |
| 21:11 | should check that tomorrow | |
| 21:11 | * cait | is talking to herself |
| 21:12 | rangi | :) |
| 21:13 | cait | long day |
| 21:14 | how is friday? | |
| 21:14 | rangi | so far so good |
| 21:14 | cait | :) |
| 21:18 | eythian | rangi: if you want to have a TV debut, there's apparently filming at Hashigo at lunch time today...:) |
| 21:18 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 21:19 | rangi | oh yeah? |
| 21:20 | i gotta be at the blood thingy place at 12.30 | |
| 21:20 | kahu getting a blood test | |
| 21:20 | eythian | > The Craft Beer TV Roadshow reaches Wellington tomorrow (Friday). We're told that the film crew on wheels will be at Hashigo Zake around lunchtime to capture some footage and, perhaps, the wisdom of some local identities in the craft beer business. |
| 21:20 | rangi: oh, I was going to say: stocking up on a beer 30 minutes before giving blood would be an excellent idea :) | |
| 21:21 | rangi | the mahara people are talkinga about gerrit |
| 21:21 | eythian | the recipient would surely thank you |
| 21:21 | gerrit? | |
| 21:21 | rangi | http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/ |
| 21:21 | might be worth having a look at | |
| 21:21 | eythian | the brief sounds similar to how launchpad works |
| 21:21 | rangi | *nod* |
| 21:21 | magnuse | Hashigo Zake? hey, i've been there! |
| 21:22 | eythian | you have your own branch, and nominate for merging whereupon people review and accept/decline with comments. |
| 21:22 | magnuse: jup | |
| 21:22 | rangi | something to maybe have a play with |
| 21:22 | altho the statuses in bugzilla seem to be working pretty well too | |
| 21:23 | eythian | yeah, I quite liked it when I saw it in action, but I never actually used it myself. |
| 21:24 | cait | magnuse: same thought here :) |
| 21:24 | magnuse | cait: great minds think alike... ;-) |
| 21:24 | cait | hmpf |
| 21:25 | this mind is tired | |
| 21:25 | magnuse | mine too |
| 21:25 | eythian | http://www.dangerousminds.net/[…]sales_staff_1967/ |
| 21:27 | * magnuse | wishes #koha and all it's inhabitants a good night and a good weekend - see ya on monday! |
| 21:27 | rangi | cya magnuse |
| 21:28 | eythian | bye |
| 21:28 | magnuse | bye! |
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| 21:30 | rangi | hi LBA |
| 21:30 | eythian | Logical Block Access |
| 21:31 | LBA | heh heh...yea should have gone lower case.... |
| 21:31 | * LBA | waves to rangi |
| 21:51 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5769' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6e791daed6c01ee46> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5682' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a198428146566dbb3> / NormalizeString POD Fixing and variable renaming <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]p=koha.git;a=comm |
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| 21:54 | rangi | hiya NateC |
| 21:56 | NateC | hi rangi! |
| 21:56 | hudsonbot | Starting build 372 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 22:01 | rangi | wow bugzilla 4 is cool |
| 22:01 | the automatic detection of trying to find duplicate bugs is sweet | |
| 22:02 | just saved me making a new bug for this 5436 | |
| 22:02 | you just start typing and it starts suggesting bugs that might be the same | |
| 22:02 | rules! | |
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| 22:03 | thd` is now known as thd | |
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| 22:11 | bg | afternoon |
| 22:11 | rangi | hi bg |
| 22:11 | bg | :) |
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| 22:13 | wizzyrea | oh hey that's sweet |
| 22:13 | dupe detection | |
| 22:20 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #372: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/372/ |
| 22:20 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5140 - In Chrome, drop-down menus disappear after using pop-up calendar | |
| 22:20 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5769 - notice tab disappearing on edit patron | |
| 22:20 | * Paul Poulain: NormalizeString POD Fixing and variable renaming | |
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| 23:15 | thd | rangi: are you here now/ |
| 23:18 | rangi: We are about to have a nice new contribution to Koha cataloguing. | |
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| 23:45 | gmcharlt | thd: what is it? |
| 23:51 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
| 23:51 | * jcamins_away | is always interested in cataloging and Koha! |
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| 23:54 | thd | gmcharlt: http://amazon.libcat.org/azorder.pl and http://amazon.libcat.org/cgi-bin/imdb2marc.pl . |
| 23:55 | gmcharlt: I just finished speaking to the developer on the telephone explaining how to add a license to his work. | |
| 23:56 | mtj | well done thd :) |
| 23:56 | thd | gmcharlt: He said that he would prepare the code for distribution under a suitable free software license next week. |
| 23:56 | jcamins_away | Now all we need is dinner and we're good to go. :D |
| 23:56 | * jcamins_away | mumbles off wandering about dinner... |
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