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| 00:24 | LBA | Rangi, I'm here. Still want to talk? |
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| 00:25 | rangi | yeah, was wondering how the session with arcadia went, and if its gonna be put up anywhere? |
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| 00:27 | LBA | the webinar? |
| 00:28 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:29 | LBA | I think there is an archive but I think they make it available only to people who paid to attend...Which sucks. Let me see. |
| 00:29 | rangi | ahh maybe arcadia will write it up on their blog |
| 00:31 | LBA | we are going to release our PPT slides with text (not transcripts but statements from each library in response to my questions) |
| 00:32 | rangi | cool, good enough |
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| 01:03 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/technol[…]ulnerable-to-hack |
| 02:07 | hudsonbot | Starting build 4 for job Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #1 6 days 9 hr ago) |
| 02:20 | Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #4: SUCCESS in 13 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]s_3_2_x_Branch/4/ | |
| 02:20 | rangi | yay |
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| 02:24 | rangi | heya druthb |
| 02:24 | druthb | hi. :) |
| 02:26 | * LBA | waves nighty night |
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| 03:38 | kmkale | Namaskar #koha |
| 03:38 | apparently the new server has not reached many ppl yet | |
| 03:38 | rangi | hi kmkale |
| 03:38 | kmkale | hi rangi |
| 03:38 | rangi | they'll find it :) |
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| 05:45 | BobB | Hi #koha - we've found our way to the new irc site. It seems katipo is still down? |
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| 05:47 | BobB | Is anyone about? |
| 05:48 | Will try later. | |
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| 06:17 | cait | hi #koha |
| 06:26 | rangi | hi cait |
| 06:26 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Revised fix for Bug 3850 - Budget Planning Pages Need Design Work <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3cb997f6d23d72949> |
| 06:28 | cait | morning chris |
| 06:28 | I see the comment on the wiki page - will try tonight | |
| 06:28 | hudsonbot | Starting build 329 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 06:29 | rangi | cool |
| 06:42 | cait | ok, bbl :) |
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| 06:46 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]97ac9d90149621550> / Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d54e8523b8d4245f> / Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]oha.git;a=commitd |
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| 06:52 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #329: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/329/ |
| 06:52 | Owen Leonard: Revised fix for Bug 3850 - Budget Planning Pages Need Design Work | |
| 06:53 | Starting build 330 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 07:16 | kmkale is now known as kmkale_a | |
| 07:18 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #330: UNSTABLE in 25 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/330/ |
| 07:18 | * Reed Wade: Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers | |
| 07:18 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 | |
| 07:18 | * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version | |
| 07:19 | rangi | !hudson build koha_master now |
| 07:19 | hudsonbot | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 07:20 | Starting build 331 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #329 51 min ago) | |
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| 07:27 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:27 | rangi | wb kf |
| 07:28 | kf | thx rangi |
| 07:30 | rangi | pushed 5431 up |
| 07:30 | to an awaiting_qa branch, so should be easy to be signed off | |
| 07:30 | kf | thx |
| 07:31 | hope someone takes time to look at it | |
| 07:31 | rangi | yup |
| 07:31 | kf | the evergreen 2.0 feature list is quite impressive |
| 07:31 | http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuw[…]=feature_list_2_0 | |
| 07:31 | rangi | yep |
| 07:31 | they did well | |
| 07:31 | kf | I want a lot of those things for koha .) |
| 07:32 | rangi | theres a bunch we have |
| 07:32 | like fast add, audible alerts, anonymize patrons etc | |
| 07:32 | kf | yes |
| 07:33 | but not the fast add they describehere | |
| 07:33 | which pops up when you scan in an unknwon barcode | |
| 07:33 | it's more complicated in koha right now | |
| 07:33 | rangi | that could be done with some jquery |
| 07:33 | we should do it | |
| 07:33 | kf | yep we should :) |
| 07:34 | and have item and basic titel information on one screen for fast adds | |
| 07:34 | that would make it really quick | |
| 07:34 | rangi | yep |
| 07:34 | kf | I have one library doing fast adds - at the moment they use the notes fields |
| 07:34 | because they found the other process to slow on the circ desk | |
| 07:42 | fredericd | hello there |
| 07:42 | kf: would you sign-off a patch? | |
| 07:43 | rangi | hi fredericd |
| 07:43 | fredericd | rangi: I've send a patch to fix a small bug in updatedatabase.pl which throw a warning during update |
| 07:44 | rangi | cool |
| 07:44 | kf | fredericd: could try tonight - what is it? |
| 07:45 | fredericd | bug 4103 |
| 07:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4103 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Intranet search page should always defaults 'Individual Libraries' to all for superlibrarian |
| 07:46 | hudsonbot | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 07:46 | Project Koha_Master build #331: FIXED in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/331/ | |
| 07:46 | fredericd | In exchange, I will give a try to bug 5431... |
| 07:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5431 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Separate state field for library addresses |
| 07:47 | kf | let me check the bug for questions |
| 07:48 | ah I see | |
| 07:48 | ok, i will write me a note | |
| 07:48 | and would be happy if you could take a look at the state things | |
| 07:48 | I think we will need to define a different address format for europeans | |
| 07:49 | I think ieven German and french address formats differ - but this is probably something we should do after the template toolkit change | |
| 07:49 | rangi: do you know if we could use one of the 'filters' to define different address formats with template toolkit? | |
| 07:51 | rangi | we could |
| 07:52 | kf | ok, so I think this is something for later |
| 07:54 | or make a include or something, there are various places where address information is shown | |
| 07:54 | rangi | yep |
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| 07:58 | fredericd | kf: With your patch, there is a new field in branches table for state |
| 07:58 | kf | yes |
| 07:58 | fredericd | So there are 2 separate fields: one for city and one for state |
| 07:58 | kf | right |
| 07:58 | fredericd | but for borrower, we just have one field city, |
| 07:59 | kf | no |
| 07:59 | or yes - until my branch goes through qa | |
| 07:59 | fredericd | which is displayed 'city, state' |
| 07:59 | rangi | 5422 and 5431 |
| 07:59 | wahanui | 10853 |
| 07:59 | rangi | go together |
| 07:59 | kf | thx chris |
| 08:00 | fredericd | I see, great |
| 08:01 | 5431 works for me | |
| 08:01 | do I send it back without modifying koha version number? (for rangi ) | |
| 08:01 | rangi | yes please |
| 08:02 | its easier for me to update the number when i merge it to master | |
| 08:03 | fredericd | yes, and it has been also easy to update it for testing |
| 08:03 | rangi | *nod* |
| 08:05 | kf | thx fredericd, I will test yours in the evening |
| 08:05 | fredericd | kf: I will send you the patch directly by email |
| 08:06 | kf | fredericd: if you attach it to the bug I will be happy |
| 08:06 | fredericd | ok |
| 08:06 | kf | can access from every computer easily that way and it documented in bugzilla |
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| 08:17 | kf | hi biblibre |
| 08:20 | paul_p | morning kf |
| 08:23 | rangi | hi paul_p and hdl |
| 08:23 | paul_p | hi rangi. |
| 08:23 | our hosting server down again :(((( | |
| 08:23 | rangi | eek |
| 08:25 | kf | ouch |
| 08:33 | rangi | https://secure.wikimedia.org/w[…]e)&action=history |
| 08:33 | host 71.178.108.18 | |
| 08:33 | 18.108.178.71.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pool-71-178-108-18.washdc.east.verizon.net. | |
| 08:34 | 2 guesses who that was | |
| 08:34 | luckily the wikipedia bots caught it | |
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| 08:38 | kf | hm, the part about windoes |
| 08:38 | and the file for that - is this still accurate? sounds a bit too easy for me. | |
| 08:38 | 'Although it's recommended that Koha be run on a Linux server[10], it will also work on Windows, provided that Apache, MySQL, and Perl are installed first' | |
| 08:38 | rangi | ? |
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| 08:39 | Ropuch | Morning #koha |
| 08:39 | kf | hi Ropuch :) |
| 08:39 | magnusenger | g'day Ropuch |
| 08:40 | magnusenger is now known as magnuse | |
| 08:40 | kf | oh and morning magnuse of course :) |
| 08:40 | rangi | hi Ropuch |
| 08:40 | magnuse | hiya kf and rangi |
| 08:41 | kf: where did you get the quote about windows? | |
| 08:42 | kf | wikipedia article about koha |
| 08:42 | rangi | better kf? |
| 08:42 | magnuse | ah |
| 08:42 | kf | rangi, fredericd: seen bug 5678 |
| 08:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5678 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Translations Manager |
| 08:42 | rangi | i was showing people https://secure.wikimedia.org/w[…]3&oldid=411023380 |
| 08:43 | which the wikipedia bots spotted as vandalism and reverted | |
| 08:43 | but i fully expect them to try again | |
| 08:44 | kf | rangi: hm yes |
| 08:45 | magnuse | and do we know anything about that IP? |
| 08:45 | rangi | yes we do |
| 08:45 | host 71.178.108.18 | |
| 08:45 | 18.108.178.71.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer pool-71-178-108-18.washdc.east.verizon.net. | |
| 08:46 | fredericd | kf: no |
| 08:46 | the scope of this enhancement confuses me... | |
| 08:46 | rangi | hmm nope i hadnt seen that bug either kf |
| 08:47 | kf | it's new |
| 08:47 | rangi | good luck to them writing that :) |
| 08:47 | kf | and I think some of the process will change with template toolkit? |
| 08:47 | rangi | not really no |
| 08:47 | kf | and it will need to have right to write files on the server |
| 08:48 | rangi | yes, dangerous |
| 08:48 | fredericd | rangi: part of this enhancement means rewriting Pootle... |
| 08:48 | rangi | yeah exactly |
| 08:48 | im not sure the person realises quite how big a job it is | |
| 08:49 | thats why i said "good luck" | |
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| 08:52 | kmkale_a is now known as kmkale | |
| 08:53 | rangi | wb kmkale |
| 08:53 | kmkale | hi rangi |
| 08:54 | kf | hi kmkale |
| 08:54 | kf is now known as kf_a | |
| 08:54 | kmkale | hi kf |
| 08:55 | kf_a is now known as kf_mtg | |
| 09:00 | kmkale | any idea how I can get a two column layout in opac main page? ( while retaining the login form; I know if we disable login from syspref we get a two column layout.) |
| 09:06 | rangi | owen would probably know |
| 09:06 | i dont im afraid | |
| 09:08 | kmkale | been looking for owen last couple of days. Guess our times dont match in here |
| 09:09 | brb | |
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| 09:46 | rangi | http://topicfire.com/share/Egy[…]tes-16721704.html |
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| 09:54 | inpiki | Hi to everybody and thanks for your work. |
| 09:55 | Is there someone who can help me to choose a distribution for koha 3.2 installation? | |
| 09:56 | rangi | debian squeeze has all the dependencies packaged, and koha itself is packaged for it at debian.koha-community.org |
| 09:56 | kmkale | inpiki: debian |
| 09:56 | inpiki | I don't know if I can use 64-bit Debian or it's better to use 32-bit version |
| 09:56 | rangi | 64 bit is fine |
| 09:56 | inpiki | Thank you. |
| 09:57 | ....starting the installation just now..... | |
| 09:57 | rangi | are you using the packages? |
| 09:58 | inpiki | Do you mean "install koha with APT-GET" directly. |
| 09:59 | rangi | yes |
| 10:00 | inpiki | I don't know. Should I use packages? I think it's better to install step by step. |
| 10:00 | rangi | if you want |
| 10:00 | inpiki | I'll let you know. |
| 10:00 | * rangi | uses packages for all his production machines, but for learning it might be better doing it the long way |
| 10:01 | rangi | right sleep time for me |
| 10:05 | inpiki | Ok. Thanks and Good Night. It's Breakfast Time for me (in Italy). |
| 10:15 | kf_mtg | hi inpiki |
| 10:15 | kf_mtg is now known as kf | |
| 10:18 | magnuse | inpiki: installing "manually" is a great way to learn more about the innards of koha, and i don't think the packages have much support for choosing other languages than english yet (i might be wrong, though) |
| 10:19 | magnuse is now known as magnus_away | |
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| 10:45 | inpiki | Ok. Thanks. Tryng in the long way. |
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| 12:15 | * druthb | starts her day with a "harrrumph!" |
| 12:17 | * kf | gives druthb a cookie |
| 12:19 | hdl | magnus_away: ? |
| 12:21 | kf | perhaps lunch ;) |
| 12:21 | * hdl | gives kf a cookie |
| 12:23 | kf | huh thx |
| 12:23 | :) | |
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| 12:31 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 12:31 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #108: "<owen> As Pee-wee said, Everyone I know has a big 'but'" (added by druthb at 03:20 PM, November 30, 2010) |
| 12:32 | kmkale | :) |
| 12:32 | kf | @quote random |
| 12:32 | huginn | kf: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010) |
| 12:32 | kf | @quote random |
| 12:32 | huginn | kf: Quote #97: "chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond" (added by wizzyrea at 03:21 PM, October 08, 2010) |
| 12:32 | jwagner | @wunder 20817 |
| 12:32 | huginn | jwagner: The current temperature in Burning Tree Estates, Bethesda, Maryland is -2.6�C (7:35 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST today... |
| 12:32 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 12:32 | druthb | @quote random |
| 12:32 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.2�C (1:35 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:32 | druthb: Quote #54: "<@gmcharlt> from my POV, bug wrangling expands to fill all available volunteers" (added by jwagner at 08:05 PM, February 09, 2010) | |
| 12:32 | jwagner | Glad to see the bots made the trip... |
| 12:32 | kf | but huginn? |
| 12:33 | is there a meaning to that? | |
| 12:33 | kmkale | aw where is munin? |
| 12:33 | I liked that one. | |
| 12:33 | kf | munin = huginn |
| 12:33 | ibot = wahanui | |
| 12:33 | wahanui botsnack cookie | |
| 12:33 | wahanui | thanks kf :) |
| 12:33 | druthb | wahanui: kf? |
| 12:33 | wahanui | kf is probably an excellent cook: she makes tasty königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln |
| 12:33 | kmkale | It reflected a Indic word Munim which is a sorta secretary / man friday |
| 12:33 | kf | forget kf |
| 12:33 | wahanui | kf: I forgot kf |
| 12:33 | * druthb | pouts. |
| 12:34 | druthb | wahanui: cait? |
| 12:34 | wahanui | i think cait is a competent programmer AND really sweet. |
| 12:34 | kf | you can teach him something else |
| 12:34 | *rollseyes* ok | |
| 12:34 | espresso time | |
| 12:34 | magnus_away is now known as magnuse | |
| 12:35 | magnuse | hdl? |
| 12:35 | wahanui | hdl is, like, sure that Croswalking records in zebra is also ram demanding |
| 12:36 | magnuse | hugin and munin were the ravens of odin in norse mythology... |
| 12:37 | kmkale | magnuse: e? |
| 12:37 | slef | hi all |
| 12:37 | kmkale | hey slef |
| 12:37 | druthb | hi, slef. :) |
| 12:37 | hdl | magnuse: how do you say munin |
| 12:37 | hi slef | |
| 12:38 | kmkale | hi hdl |
| 12:38 | hdl | hi kmkale druthb |
| 12:40 | slef | argh! Adrea Lund is out of the office again. Anyone with list-admin powers to boot her from koha-zebra? hdl? |
| 12:40 | hdl | slef: this will be the last email from her... |
| 12:40 | slef | For some reason, I assume Adrea is female. Curious. |
| 12:40 | druthb | She is. |
| 12:40 | hdl | But I will add sanitization to koha-zebra too |
| 12:42 | magnuse | hdl: with a long u and a shorter i - hard to explain... |
| 12:43 | hdl | got it http://fr.forvo.com/word/munin/ |
| 12:43 | http://fr.forvo.com/search/hugin/ | |
| 12:44 | kf | so is there ar eason for the double n? |
| 12:45 | magnuse | kf: it's not used in norwegian... http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugin_og_Munin |
| 12:45 | hdl: yeah, those are pretty good pronounciations :-) | |
| 12:46 | * magnuse | wonders how they are pronounced in english... |
| 12:50 | kf | I knew 2 horizon servers called hugin and munin |
| 12:53 | nengard | @wunder 19030 |
| 12:53 | huginn | nengard: The current temperature in CWOP # AR939, Penndel, Pennsylvania is -3.3�C (7:56 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1023.6 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 4 PM EST Wednesday... |
| 12:53 | nengard | Bleh!! |
| 13:02 | jcamins_away is now known as jcamins | |
| 13:02 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:03 | magnuse | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 13:03 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (1:50 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:03 | magnuse | looks more like snow to me... |
| 13:04 | g'day jcamins | |
| 13:04 | druthb | Warmer in Bodo than it is here. How rude! |
| 13:07 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 13:07 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village, Queens, New York is -2.1�C (8:06 AM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 7 PM EST Wednesday... |
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| 13:10 | magnuse | sorry 'bout that druthb... ;-) |
| 13:11 | druthb | ;-) It's okay.. I'm staying inside anyway. |
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| 13:11 | kmkale_ is now known as kmkale | |
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| 13:14 | jwagner | Ya know, I finally understand why people have this urge to move to Florida, or Arizona, or the tropics. I'm getting tired of this stuff.... |
| 13:16 | nengard | jcamins your warning is in effect longer than mine ... guess it's heading north |
| 13:16 | jcamins | nengard: ooh, lucky me. |
| 13:17 | Ropuch | @wunder Wroclaw |
| 13:17 | huginn | Ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is -5.0�C (2:00 PM CET on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:21 | oleonard | This new IRC venue has the weather, that's really all we need isn't it? |
| 13:21 | jcamins | No fudge. :( |
| 13:23 | magnuse | oleonard: yup ;-) |
| 13:25 | jwagner | oleonard, it also has quotes :-) |
| 13:25 | @quote random | |
| 13:25 | huginn | jwagner: Quote #88: "<owen> I'm a crazed branch-creating maniac" (added by jwagner at 07:42 PM, August 06, 2010) |
| 13:26 | oleonard | That owen fellow, he was indeed a crazed branch-creating maniac. |
| 13:26 | jwagner | So why do people hide behind new nicknames here??? |
| 13:26 | druthb | Because this server has a NickServ, and their old names were taken. |
| 13:27 | jwagner | Awww. What about their karma, then??? |
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| 13:27 | jcamins | @karma oleonard |
| 13:27 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 13:27 | jcamins | @karma owen |
| 13:27 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "owen" has been increased 221 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 216. |
| 13:28 | jcamins | I guess I'll be typing "oleonard++" a lot if I want to transfer the karma. |
| 13:28 | oleonard | I'll bet rangi will sort it out in time. He has done so for other nick changes and ambiguities |
| 13:28 | @karma cait | |
| 13:28 | huginn | oleonard: Karma for "cait" has been increased 58 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 58. |
| 13:28 | oleonard | @karma kf |
| 13:28 | huginn | oleonard: Karma for "kf" has been increased 40 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 40. |
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| 13:31 | hdl | @marc 245a |
| 13:31 | huginn | hdl: unknown tag 245a |
| 13:31 | hdl | @marc 245$a |
| 13:31 | huginn | hdl: unknown tag 245$a |
| 13:31 | hdl | @marc 245 a |
| 13:31 | huginn | hdl: Title |
| 13:31 | hdl | @marc 245 b |
| 13:31 | huginn | hdl: Remainder of title |
| 13:31 | gmcharlt | oleonard: actually, it's me who can move karma around |
| 13:32 | sekjal | @karma druthb |
| 13:32 | huginn | sekjal: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 54 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 54. |
| 13:32 | druthb | @karma sekjal |
| 13:32 | huginn | druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 60 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 59. |
| 13:33 | kmkale | oleonard: how can I have opac main page with a two column layout? ( without disabling login from syspref ) |
| 13:35 | gmcharlt | @karma oleonard |
| 13:35 | huginn | gmcharlt: Karma for "oleonard" has been increased 223 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 218. |
| 13:35 | gmcharlt | @karma owen |
| 13:35 | huginn | gmcharlt: Karma for "owen" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. |
| 13:35 | oleonard | gmcharlt++ |
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| 13:52 | oleonard | @karma gmcharlt |
| 13:52 | huginn | oleonard: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 217 times and decreased 4 times for a total karma of 213. |
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| 13:53 | oleonard | Good grief someone lay on some karma for gmcharlt, there's no way I should be ahead of him |
| 13:53 | gmcharlt | oleonard: nothing wrong with that |
| 13:54 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 13:54 | druthb | imma working on catching up with sekjal. But I keep giving him karma, because he's just so darned awesome. Probably not the best strategy for catching up to him. |
| 13:55 | Topic for #koha is now Next meeting 2 Feb. 2011 10:00 UTC+0 - Koha - http://koha-community.org - this channel is logged, pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org | |
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| 13:57 | jwagner | kmkale, I'm not owen, but if you're just wanting to hide the big login box on the OPAC main page, this jquery should do it: $('#login').hide(); |
| 13:58 | oleonard | kmkale: And if that's not what you're trying to do, can you explain further? |
| 13:58 | kmkale | jwagner: Thanks but no. I have moved the login box around using owens trick. now there is a vacant third column. want to get rid of it |
| 13:58 | opac.booksandmore.co.in | |
| 13:59 | oleonard | Wow kmkale that's fancy! |
| 14:00 | kmkale | hey owen coming from you, it feels good |
| 14:00 | jwagner | Very nice looking indeed! |
| 14:01 | oleonard | kmkale: I've never tried to eliminate that column, so you're in new territory |
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| 14:04 | oleonard | kmkale: Tinkering with the source in Firebug, I can get it to work if I do two things |
| 14:04 | 1. Remove the <div> containing the login form | |
| 14:05 | 2. Removing the "yui-u first" class from the div containing opacmainuserblock | |
| 14:06 | Hmmm... I didn't try changing the class of the login form div container... | |
| 14:06 | Oh, that works too :) | |
| 14:09 | kmkale: $(".yui-ge div.yui-u").removeClass(); | |
| 14:09 | That works from the Firebug console. | |
| 14:16 | kmkale | sorry had to take a call |
| 14:21 | oleonard: trying it now | |
| 14:24 | ok. That works. And I have to rework the central block if I am to use it. | |
| 14:25 | oleonard: one more question. Any trick to get the nav and main blocks to center on page? | |
| 14:25 | * oleonard | tries to remember... |
| 14:28 | oleonard | Try $("#doc3").attr("id","#doc4"); |
| 14:28 | And check out this for other options: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/ | |
| 14:29 | kmkale | oleonard: $("#doc3").attr("id","#doc4"); moved it to right. |
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| 14:30 | * oleonard | frowns |
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| 14:35 | oleonard | Sorry kmkale, that should have been $("#doc3").attr("id","doc4"); |
| 14:35 | kmkale | trying |
| 14:36 | : hey oleonard you are a magician | |
| 14:36 | thanks a lot | |
| 14:36 | oleonard++ | |
| 14:36 | oleonard | You're quite welcome :) |
| 14:37 | * oleonard | doesn't get many opportunities to tinker with the OPAC these days |
| 14:38 | kmkale | amazing one liners you come up with |
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| 14:42 | kmkale | just added that to opacuserjs & good to go :) thanks again owen |
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| 15:01 | jwagner | Hey, does this IRC server have the limitation on nicknames? |
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| 15:01 | jwagner | No it doesn't. That's nice :-) |
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| 15:02 | oleonard | 30 character limit |
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| 15:03 | * jcamins | wonders whether he should switch to using his full last name, just to make sure everyone remembered him. ;) |
| 15:03 | druthb | you're already memorable, jcamins. :) |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Aww. Thanks. |
| 15:04 | jwagner | oleonard, 30 char is better than 10 char :-) |
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| 15:28 | kmkale | oleonard: if have time can you tell me how changing to doc4 centered the page |
| 15:28 | ?? | |
| 15:28 | oleonard | http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/builder/ |
| 15:29 | Koha uses the YUI Grids CSS framework, and the doc4 ID means a different layout configuration | |
| 15:29 | kmkale | I am looking here http://developer.yahoo.com/yui[…]s/grids-doc4.html but cant figure it out |
| 15:30 | oleonard | In the grids CSS, #doc4 is given "margin: auto" |
| 15:31 | That centers it on the page | |
| 15:31 | kmkale | oh, i was looking at text-align: center |
| 15:33 | trying to center the header-wrapper | |
| 15:35 | actually opac-main-search | |
| 15:40 | oleonard | kmkale: I don't think you can, because of the way the logo, cart, and list buttons are floated |
| 15:41 | At least not without a lot of CSS re-writing | |
| 15:41 | It's not a simple fix | |
| 15:41 | kmkale | or with custom left margins? may not scale |
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| 15:42 | hdl | yui grids-- |
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| 15:43 | oleonard | yui grids++ until I see a better replacement |
| 15:43 | hdl | oleonard: you worked on jqueryUI, is that not a replacement |
| 15:43 | oleonard | Nope |
| 15:44 | jqueryUI replaces YUI javascript, not yui CSS grids | |
| 15:44 | (or will replace, anyway) | |
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| 16:00 | oleonard | kf: What process did you follow to test Template Toolkit? |
| 16:00 | Did you check it out as a branch on your existing installation? | |
| 16:06 | sekjal | oleonard: for bug 4045, is the goal for the library to be able to specify how many total holds requests a patron can place? |
| 16:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, No check for maximum number of allowed holds. |
| 16:06 | sekjal | and preferrably, on a branchcode/categorycode basis? |
| 16:07 | oleonard | Yes |
| 16:07 | Right now the limit is in effect only some of the time | |
| 16:07 | For instance, if your total number of holds is below the limit | |
| 16:07 | You can place multiple holds at once and exceed the limit | |
| 16:09 | sekjal | and the Holds Allowed values in Circ rules specify how many are allowed on a specific itemtype; we need some kind of limit on the total for the patron |
| 16:09 | across all itemtypes | |
| 16:09 | oleonard | Yes |
| 16:10 | Because if our limit for each itemtype is 5 and we have 5 itemtypes, we may still want to limit the total to 10, not 25 | |
| 16:10 | kf | olenonard: still here? |
| 16:10 | wahanui | here is a tidbit- inspite of the disaster Butte migrated to 3.2.1 |
| 16:11 | kf | forget here |
| 16:11 | wahanui | kf: I forgot here |
| 16:11 | oleonard | kf: Here |
| 16:11 | kf | oleonard: I checked out template_test |
| 16:11 | from the catalyst repo | |
| 16:12 | so you have to add that to your remote repos first | |
| 16:12 | the templates will be converted already, so you don't have to run a script of something | |
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| 16:14 | kf | have you seen chris hall's comment about yui on top of my table? |
| 16:14 | kmkale | bye all. good night |
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| 16:19 | sekjal | oleonard: would adding maxreserves back in as a valid system preference solve the problem? I mean, of course it'd be less flexible, but would it work partially? |
| 16:20 | oleonard | For us, it would be better to have a real, enforced, total maximum than a limit which was unenforced in some situations |
| 16:22 | kf | hm, I think in principle it should work like the maximum number of checkouts? |
| 16:23 | have one per rule per library/itemtype/borrowercategory and a separate one for borrowercategory? | |
| 16:23 | sekjal | kf: yeah, that'd be better |
| 16:24 | so, the fix would involve adding to that table, adding a C4::Reserves subroutine to get the max allowed given a borrowernumber, and then inserting that check into opac/opac-reserve.pl, reserve/request.pl and Utility.pm | |
| 16:25 | kf | ok, now you lost me ;) |
| 16:25 | sekjal | oh, and updating the templates to show a meaningful message when the max allowed is hit |
| 16:25 | and preventing Multi Hold from going over | |
| 16:25 | kf | meaningful_message++ |
| 16:25 | sekjal | dang... I was hoping this was one I could bang out today |
| 16:26 | looks a bit more intense than that | |
| 16:27 | oleonard | Hence the brokenness :( |
| 16:27 | sekjal | I'm convinced the holds rewrite will help |
| 16:27 | may not solve it all out the gate, but it'll give a more solid structure for fixing things | |
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| 16:45 | jwagner | nengard and anyone else, on Bug 1934 and subsequent revisions, it looks like those variables are only available for use inside the More Searches block. Is that correct? |
| 16:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1934 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, Customize "Search for this title in..." links |
| 16:45 | nengard | yes |
| 16:45 | jwagner | I'd like to add a couple of variables, and make them available anywhere on the opac-detail page, so I can use them in a masthead link. Anyone see any problems with that? |
| 16:46 | I want to add ISSN (because it probably should be there) and also biblionumber for a specialized use for one of my clients. | |
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| 16:53 | jwagner | Hearing no objection.... |
| 16:54 | * wizzyrea_ | didn't see the original question |
| 16:54 | gmcharlt | jwagner: sounds good to me |
| 16:54 | jwagner | OK, thanks. I'll peck at it when I get a chance. |
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| 17:03 | jwagner | Hrm. I may not need to do a patch or use those variables. oleonard, do you know how to embed a TMPL_VAR in a jquery statement? |
| 17:03 | $("#moresearches").prepend("<a href=\'http://worldcat.org/search?q=\<\!\-\- TMPL_VAR NAME=\"title\" \-\-\>\\' target=\"_blank\">Worldcat</a> <span class='pipe'> | "); | |
| 17:03 | rangi | nengard and wizzyrea_ you know that hudson is building all the pds now eh? |
| 17:04 | nengard | i knew that |
| 17:04 | jwagner | shows up but is trying to literally send TMPL_VAR_NAME instead of the contents |
| 17:04 | nengard | i just don't know where it's storing them for linking |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea_ | i knew you were going to do that, I don't think.. what she said |
| 17:04 | oleonard | jwagner: TMPL vars are processed on the server side, jquery is processed on the client side |
| 17:04 | jwagner | So it's not possible :-( |
| 17:04 | nengard | wizzyrea :) |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea_ | ;) |
| 17:05 | rangi | http://download.koha-community.org/manual_pdf/ |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea_ | woot okies ty |
| 17:05 | nengard | which is that? |
| 17:05 | jcamins | Lunch time! |
| 17:05 | nengard | sorry |
| 17:05 | ignore me | |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea_ | will change the links |
| 17:05 | hudson++ | |
| 17:05 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_lunch_chicken_francais | |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea_ | rangi++ |
| 17:06 | oh now we're going to have to combine our karmas :P | |
| 17:06 | nengard | wizzyrea rangi can we automate the html generation that way? |
| 17:06 | now the pdf is newer than the html :) | |
| 17:06 | and i agrree | |
| 17:06 | rangi++ | |
| 17:06 | rangi | not really |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea_ | ok, back in the dizzle you told me that weekly was often enough |
| 17:06 | rangi | cos the html is stuck straight into wordpress |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea_ | yep |
| 17:06 | nengard | wizzyrea - yes I did - but i thought I'd check |
| 17:07 | and i don't think it's updating weekly | |
| 17:07 | rangi if it wasn't in WP could we do it? | |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea_ | you have all the stuff you need to do it yourself, or jared does anyway. |
| 17:08 | nengard | rangi the pdf is missing images - wizzyrea had done something special to get them to work |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea, i know, but if hudson can do it that would be awesome - right? | |
| 17:08 | that's all I was asking | |
| 17:08 | wizzyrea_ | I don't have an opinion on the matter really |
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| 17:09 | rangi | hudson cant do much more |
| 17:09 | indradg | good evening folks |
| 17:09 | rangi | im about out of space on my linnode |
| 17:09 | unless someone wants to give me money to buy more space | |
| 17:10 | nengard | k |
| 17:11 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_3_2_x_Branch build #5: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]s_3_2_x_Branch/5/ |
| 17:11 | Nicole C. Engard: add keyboard shortcuts | |
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| 17:17 | pastebot0 | "rangi" at 203.97.214.51 pasted "building pdf" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/131 |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea_ | yea that's what I'm using |
| 17:18 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #52: SUCCESS in 18 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/52/ |
| 17:18 | Nicole C. Engard: add keyboard shortcuts | |
| 17:18 | wizzyrea_ | (but I'm double checking) |
| 17:21 | yes, def what I'm using | |
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| 17:22 | jcamins | I'm working on the manual stuff. |
| 17:23 | It's a kind of slow process since DocBook really wasn't designed with attractive output in mind. ;) | |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea_ | ^^ |
| 17:26 | jcamins | And DSSSL (or however many 'S's there are) was designed to crush the hope of youth and replace it with the cynicism of... |
| 17:26 | something very cynical. | |
| 17:26 | :) | |
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| 17:32 | nengard | identify |
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| 17:35 | indradg | nengard, back from lunch? :) |
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| 17:36 | nengard | yes |
| 17:38 | jcamins | Who set up debian.koha-community.org? |
| 17:39 | rangi | what part of it? |
| 17:40 | jcamins | The header. |
| 17:40 | That makes it match the rest of the website. | |
| 17:40 | gmcharlt | jcamins: IIRC, I did |
| 17:40 | in any event, rangi and I can change it | |
| 17:40 | jcamins | gmcharlt: ah. Ummm… how? |
| 17:40 | No, I like it. I wanted to steal whatever you did for the manual. | |
| 17:41 | gmcharlt | jcamins: sure, one sec |
| 17:45 | pastebot0 | "gmcharlt" at 68.101.78.67 pasted "for jcamins" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132 |
| 17:46 | jcamins | gmcharlt: thanks! |
| 17:47 | slef | I just got a lot of updatedatabase errors upgrading from 3.0 to 3.2 - is that a known problem? |
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| 17:50 | atz | so *this* is where you've been hiding out, eh? |
| 17:50 | wizzyrea_ | we were hiding from you |
| 17:50 | j/k <3 | |
| 17:50 | druthb_away is now known as druthb | |
| 17:50 | oleonard | No one can elude atz forever |
| 17:51 | slef | yeah, hiding by announcing it on lists, identi.ca, twitter, ... |
| 17:51 | we should have linked to an AFF site in the announcement. Then more people would pay attention to it. | |
| 17:51 | atz | slef: uh, joking, dude. |
| 17:52 | slef | atz: ditto |
| 17:53 | Other odd thing during upgrade: the web installer noted "The Locale::Currency::Format package is not installed on your system or not found in @INC." but that's not in Makefile.PL | |
| 17:54 | I'll go search bugs and report if not. | |
| 17:55 | Locale::Currency::Format notice not a known bug | |
| 17:57 | updatedatabase.pl errors not a known bug | |
| 17:57 | bbi30 | |
| 18:06 | rangi | does Makefile.PL not use the same dependencies file as the the web installer |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt | rangi: it's all routed through C4::Installer::PerlModule nowadays |
| 18:08 | rangi | right, so should be the same eh? |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt | right |
| 18:09 | rangi | bbiab |
| 18:10 | slef | see $DBversion = '3.01.00.119' in updatedatabase.pl |
| 18:10 | it's a handcoded notice | |
| 18:11 | lines 3498- | |
| 18:12 | git blames chris_n | |
| 18:12 | chris_n: is there a reason for that to be in updatedatabase.pl not Makefile.PL? | |
| 18:13 | gmcharlt | slef: I think that might predate C4::I::PerlModule |
| 18:13 | slef | biab |
| 18:13 | gmcharlt | nowadays answer is probably to chnage updatedatabase.pl to run a module check whenever it runs and report back |
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| 18:16 | cait | hi all |
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| 18:19 | * jcamins | waves to cait |
| 18:19 | * cait | waves to jcamins :) |
| 18:29 | indradg | hi cait |
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| 18:33 | wizzyrea_ | sekjal++ for fixing the on order bug |
| 18:36 | jcamins | Uh-oh. VirtualBox just committed suicide. |
| 18:36 | Let's try a restart. | |
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| 18:37 | wizzyrea_ | hey liw :) |
| 18:37 | * liw | waves |
| 18:40 | rangi | You found us liw :) |
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| 18:41 | cait | hi liw |
| 18:43 | rangi | cait: did the yui change work for u? |
| 18:49 | cait | rangi: sorry, got home late, still eating my dinner |
| 18:49 | will try to test later | |
| 18:49 | jcamins_irssi | Apparently VirtualBox isn't ACPI-compliant. |
| 18:49 | rangi | That's cool |
| 18:52 | slef | gmcharlt: it doesn't predate Makefile.PL. I wonder why it's in updatedatabase.pl instead, or if it's a mistake. |
| 18:52 | gmcharlt | slef: I think it was just an effort to make sure that users didn't miss a dependency that would break overdue notices if not installed |
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| 19:02 | slef | gmcharlt: oh, I see, dependencies are no longer in Makefile.PL in 3.2 |
| 19:02 | gmcharlt | slef: right |
| 19:03 | slef | I wonder why that one didn't build on my first attempt, though :-/ |
| 19:03 | can someone remind me how to rerun the dependency check, please? | |
| 19:03 | I don't want to do the whole Q+A again. | |
| 19:04 | gmcharlt | slef: koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u |
| 19:04 | to identify missing deps as well as those requiring an upgrade | |
| 19:05 | slef | Are we sure that the version numbers are required? |
| 19:05 | There's some there which are in debian stable but an earlier version | |
| 19:06 | gmcharlt | slef: hard to say; some may just be the versions that the original dev who added a module was using at the time |
| 19:06 | other (particularly Encode) represent real minimums | |
| 19:06 | slef | gmcharlt: IOW no, we're not sure. |
| 19:07 | gmcharlt | not without trawling through the commit logs and/or testing |
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| 19:32 | indradg | hdl, hi |
| 19:32 | hdl | hi indradg |
| 19:32 | * chris_n | crawls out of the wood work to take the blame for whatever |
| 19:33 | cait | oh, so it was you? |
| 19:33 | hdl | whatever what ? |
| 19:33 | gmcharlt | chris_n: I blame your contributing entirely too much good code to Koha |
| 19:33 | chris_n | oh, anything you'd like someone to blame something on |
| 19:33 | gmcharlt | s/your/you for/ |
| 19:34 | * chris_n | is feeling pretty resilient atm |
| 19:34 | * cait | blames chris_n for not having finished the clone and timemachine modules ;) |
| 19:34 | chris_n | slef: gmcharlt was correct... that was an attempt to hold up a large flag |
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| 19:35 | cait | hi nengard |
| 19:35 | nengard | hiya |
| 19:35 | jcamins_irssi | chris_n: if I blame you for my VirtualBox dying, will you tell me how to fix it? |
| 19:36 | chris_n | jcamins_irssi: no... my blame-taking mode is write only... ;-) |
| 19:36 | jcamins_irssi | Ah well. |
| 19:36 | It was worth a try. | |
| 19:39 | nengard: you were saying you wanted a video of someone setting up a testing environment. | |
| 19:40 | Well, looks like I have to start over from scratch. | |
| 19:40 | How do you do your instructional videos? | |
| 19:41 | cait | chris: my yuipatch was included with koha all the time |
| 19:41 | rangi:...see above | |
| 19:42 | rangi | ? |
| 19:42 | cait: chris hall has just arrived, will you have 10 mins to have a chat with him if i get him on here? | |
| 19:42 | cait | (19:46:43) rangi: cait: did the yui change work for u? |
| 19:42 | sure | |
| 19:42 | rangi | cool |
| 19:43 | cait | he wrote on the wiki I should try if this setting makes the problems go away - but I already had the local files while testing |
| 19:43 | could change to from Yahoo's own servers if he wants me to | |
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| 19:44 | cait | hi chrisdothall :) |
| 19:44 | chrisdothall | hey cait :) |
| 19:45 | nengard | jcamins there are lots of tools - i use screenflow |
| 19:45 | cait | you suggested changing the yuipath to local - I checked my database - already had that setting |
| 19:45 | want me to change to ' from Yahoo's own servers?' | |
| 19:45 | chrisdothall | cait: awesome. Local is perfect. Some of your bugs I can't seem to duplicate locally. |
| 19:46 | jcamins_irssi | rangi: sekjal: someone mentioned a live-testing environment. How do you envision that working? Bootable CD? OVF? |
| 19:46 | rangi | who what where? |
| 19:46 | live-testing as in? | |
| 19:46 | cait | I think we are confusing rangi :) |
| 19:46 | chrisdothall: which one? | |
| 19:47 | sekjal | I'd like to have a Koha .iso that folks can download, spin up, and git-pull the latest patches for testing |
| 19:47 | jcamins_irssi | rangi: like, you have a live CD for testing Koha. |
| 19:47 | Or an OVF. | |
| 19:47 | rangi | ahh |
| 19:47 | jcamins_irssi | Okay, sekjal says live CD. |
| 19:47 | That's easy. | |
| 19:47 | chrisdothall | cait: for example: admin/preferences pop up box. I have both the pop up box as well as the black box at the bottom that brings up the gray area full of messages. |
| 19:47 | jcamins_irssi | I mean, I have no idea how to make a live CD, but getting the answer was easy. |
| 19:47 | cait | chrisdothall: have created a new branch from catalyst now to get recent changes - is there a specific one? I have some time to retest |
| 19:48 | gmcharlt | that could be closer than you might think - debian live CD modified to add Koha's deb apt repo + some tweaks have dev-mode install as a packaged option |
| 19:48 | chrisdothall | cait: template_test is still the most 'up to data' as far as the conversion goes |
| 19:48 | sorry, up to date not data. | |
| 19:48 | cait | yep, I have that one |
| 19:48 | jcamins_irssi | gmcharlt: I'd think we'd need something that included X, though, if people might be booting off the disk. |
| 19:48 | cait | changed the yuisystempreference - got the box |
| 19:48 | let me check something | |
| 19:49 | gmcharlt | not *quite* full packaged, as it it would still require somebody to do an apt-get koha-dev first, but such a thing would be easy to maintain |
| 19:49 | rangi | yeah |
| 19:49 | cait | chrisdothall: grr. now it works. I will delete the line from the wiki |
| 19:50 | not sure what happened yesterday, perhaps a special constellation of things | |
| 19:50 | chrisdothall | cait: haha that is actually good news :) |
| 19:51 | rangi | chris_n: im not sure you want to pull 3881 to 3.2.x |
| 19:51 | chris_n: its a new feature (the privacy bit was taken out befor the 3.2.0 release) | |
| 19:51 | cait | chrisdothall: is there more? :) |
| 19:51 | rangi | @seen chris_n |
| 19:51 | huginn | rangi: chris_n was last seen in #koha 15 minutes and 27 seconds ago: <chris_n> jcamins_irssi: no... my blame-taking mode is write only... ;-) |
| 19:51 | chrisdothall | cait: could you also please check catalogue/search 'fewer options' and 'more options' having no effect |
| 19:51 | cait | how do you hm strike(?) something in mediawiki? |
| 19:52 | rangi | <del></del> or <strike> |
| 19:52 | one of those anyway | |
| 19:52 | cait | did a <strike> |
| 19:53 | chrisdothall: no change for adv search | |
| 19:53 | problems still stand - the OR groups thing and the more/fewer options | |
| 19:53 | it changes from more to fewer and back, but i get no boolean values | |
| 19:54 | and the search index list is the same for both settings | |
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| 19:54 | jcamins_irssi | gmcharlt: wouldn't it be better to use git? |
| 19:54 | chrisdothall | cait: the only change I see when using fewer/more is the "limits" section appearing/disappearing |
| 19:55 | cait | yes, there should be more |
| 19:55 | and/or/not and an option to duplicate the search fields should show up | |
| 19:55 | gmcharlt | jcamins_irssi: you could, but since there's nothing special about the layout of a git repo, you could just as easily make a debian package that includes a local copy of the repo |
| 19:55 | chrisdothall | cait: awesome thanks cait :) |
| 19:55 | jcamins_irssi | gmcharlt: oh, that makes sense. |
| 19:56 | cait | the pup date limit disappears/appears |
| 19:56 | gmcharlt | after package configuration tweaks a couple settings in .gitconfig, user can then do a git fetch to update |
| 19:56 | chrisdothall | cait: the yuipath setting should/could have affected your other entries concerning any menus / buttons. |
| 19:57 | cait | it's still the same as yesterday |
| 19:57 | but I will check the toolbar for borrowers | |
| 19:59 | yui local: still no toolbar | |
| 19:59 | chrisdothall | cait: thanks :) |
| 19:59 | cait | np :) |
| 19:59 | most toolbars work, so I think it's not a general problem | |
| 19:59 | perhaps a template problem in borrowers | |
| 20:00 | chrisdothall | cait: sadly its highly likely |
| 20:01 | cait | yeah, the borrower templates... are not the best |
| 20:01 | see lots of problems there | |
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| 20:01 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 20:01 | huginn | moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is -11.0�C (2:04 PM CST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0�C. Windchill: -19.0�C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030.0 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 6 PM CST this evening... |
| 20:03 | cait | chrisdothall: tried "from Yahoo" - no change for borrower account |
| 20:03 | chrisdothall | cait: the date picker problem for tools/viewlog is also appearing elsewhere. Thanks again for this :) |
| 20:04 | cait: for the yuipath, I beleive the "from yahoo" setting is broken (on yahoos end) so the local ones *should* be the best for every test. | |
| 20:04 | cait | chrisdothall: was not sure if it's a general problem so noted the pages where i tried it |
| 20:04 | ok, I have reset it to local | |
| 20:05 | can you take a look at the patron search? | |
| 20:05 | I think it's a "translation" problem | |
| 20:05 | the comma in the value should actually be a , | |
| 20:05 | chrisdothall | cait: is something of the form a,b becomming acommab? |
| 20:06 | cait | yep |
| 20:06 | checked in master too, it's , there | |
| 20:07 | chrisdothall | cait: yea thats a problem caused by my conversion script. was looking at this section suspiciously yesterday, suspicion confirmed :) |
| 20:07 | cait | hehe |
| 20:07 | ok | |
| 20:07 | let me know if you want me to test something, send a screenshot whatever | |
| 20:07 | you can also write me a mail | |
| 20:08 | chrisdothall | cait: I should be able to get the comma thing fixed in a few minutes if you have time now? |
| 20:09 | cait | I will be around for another 30 minutes I think |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea_ | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 20:09 | huginn | wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is -8.7�C (2:12 PM CST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: -14.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Steady). Blizzard Warning in effect until 6 am CST Wednesday... |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea_ | uh, if that's light freezing fog then I don't know what snow looks like |
| 20:10 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 20:10 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 4.0�C (2:55 PM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:11 | oleonard | http://nnvl.noaa.gov/MediaDeta[…]d4859aadf12521d,0 |
| 20:11 | chrisdothall | cait: just pushed the fixed templates to template_test now |
| 20:11 | cait: with the comma problem fixed (hopefully :p ) | |
| 20:11 | cait | ok, git fetch git rebase catalyst/template_test - right? |
| 20:12 | chrisdothall | cait: awesome works |
| 20:12 | cait | hm? |
| 20:13 | chrisdothall | cait: sorry, that will work fine :) |
| 20:13 | hudsonbot | Starting build 94 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:13 | cait | yep |
| 20:13 | works :) | |
| 20:13 | chrisdothall | cait: comma problem gone? |
| 20:14 | cait | ype |
| 20:14 | yep | |
| 20:14 | chrisdothall | cait: awesome, thanks again :) |
| 20:14 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit32: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.001 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6938e6f9c6d66dc4e> / Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d31d22cce8208b849> / Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko |
| 20:15 | cait | you are welcome |
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| 20:16 | oleonard | I just tried checking out template_test and I can't even log in |
| 20:16 | Can't locate Template.pm in @INC | |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea_ | hi brooke |
| 20:16 | Brooke_ | ahoy hoy |
| 20:16 | cait | ah |
| 20:16 | rangi | yeah apt-get install libtemplate-perl |
| 20:16 | cait | yeah, got that too |
| 20:16 | was about to look up the package name from my wiki :) | |
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| 20:17 | oleonard | Something to add to the template toolkit test page on the wiki? |
| 20:17 | cait | and plz - can someone fix the language detection? |
| 20:17 | I noted it on the wiki | |
| 20:17 | chrisdothall | oleonard: will do :) |
| 20:17 | cait | if you have another language in your browser settings it breaks everything |
| 20:17 | chrisdothall | cait: is this for template_test? |
| 20:18 | cait | it's a general problem but extra annoying if you try to test the templates |
| 20:18 | chrisdothall | cait: bug 3754? |
| 20:18 | cait | because the translated templates don't work there |
| 20:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3754 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, ASSIGNED, Language detection doesn't take really care of syspref |
| 20:18 | cait | yes |
| 20:18 | rangi | i thought i did htat? |
| 20:18 | cait | rangi: you didn#t tell me |
| 20:18 | rangi | maybe i never sent a patch |
| 20:18 | cait | I can test it quite easily though |
| 20:19 | rangi | my idea was just take the browser detection bit right out |
| 20:19 | cait | I remember no patch for master or 3.2.x - not sure about the template branch |
| 20:19 | rangi | it was good in theory, but in practice, its just annoying |
| 20:19 | cait | rangi: I am with you |
| 20:19 | rangi | just let the user choose |
| 20:19 | cait | yeah |
| 20:20 | the problem is, it takes all installed languages into account | |
| 20:20 | not the languages marked in the sys prefs | |
| 20:20 | rangi | yup |
| 20:20 | and overrides what the library have decided | |
| 20:20 | cait | so if you have installed templates for an older version and updated your system without updating those templates... |
| 20:20 | yeah, better take it out | |
| 20:21 | rangi | right, if chrisdothall has time, ill get him to take a look at that, its a fairly simple 3 or 2 line change iirc |
| 20:22 | cait | rangi: hm! |
| 20:22 | it seems fixed on template-test | |
| 20:22 | rangi | ah ha |
| 20:22 | i knew i did it somewhere ;) | |
| 20:23 | oleonard | Anything in particular that needs to be tested? |
| 20:23 | cait | rangi: will this go into master and others too? should I test there again? |
| 20:23 | Brooke_ | yeah rangi has some bad memory cells what need locating ;) |
| 20:24 | rangi | cait: it will go in with the template work, i probably wont get round to putting it in master before then |
| 20:24 | cait | will probably postpone testing to tomorrow though - because I want to go to bed ;) |
| 20:24 | rangi | oleonard: do you see the table at the bottom? |
| 20:24 | oleonard | Oh man the markup-parsing center of my brain is going to need a complete re-write! |
| 20:24 | cait | oleonard: perhaps you could look at borrowers and the datepicker |
| 20:24 | borrowers account page is quite messy | |
| 20:25 | rangi | oleonard: yeah, you'll find its a lot easier to spot what are comments and what are template tags now :) |
| 20:25 | oleonard | (not to mention the markup-parsing center of my HTML editor) |
| 20:25 | chrisdothall | oleonard: its worth it though, I promise, much nicer syntax :) |
| 20:25 | * oleonard | made it through <TMPL> to <!-- TMPL -->, should be able to manage |
| 20:26 | * Brooke_ | cheers at oleonard |
| 20:27 | cait | rangi: that's ok - good to know it will go away |
| 20:28 | Brooke_ | oh dear gods, that evil woman has posted evil things on her blog again. *sigh* |
| 20:28 | http://lesttheybelost.blogspot.com/ | |
| 20:30 | cait | hehe |
| 20:30 | rangi | i like this site |
| 20:30 | cait | I really like the evil woman's fudge recipe |
| 20:30 | rangi | https://katalog.irb.hr/ |
| 20:30 | gmcharlt | Brooke_: LOCKRS |
| 20:31 | cait | nice opac |
| 20:32 | oleonard | Chrome says it's Croatian? |
| 20:32 | Brooke_ | looks like BiH |
| 20:33 | cait | oh, I had guessed hungary |
| 20:33 | but it's croatia, you are right | |
| 20:33 | gmcharlt | cait: Hrvatska |
| 20:33 | nengard | am i reading the commit messages right - maxItemsInSearchResults was added back to 3.4 but not 3.2? |
| 20:34 | cait | time to sleep, lots of work tomorrow |
| 20:34 | bye all :) | |
| 20:35 | Brooke_ | night |
| 20:35 | nengard | and does that pref effect the opac and staff client or just one? |
| 20:36 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #94: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/94/ |
| 20:36 | * Reed Wade: Bug 5665: Routing slip prints too wide for narrow printers | |
| 20:36 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 4160: Currency conversion doesn't handle rates other than 100 | |
| 20:36 | * Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.03.001 | |
| 20:36 | sekjal | nengard: maxItemsInSearchResults is definitely staff client... may be OPAC |
| 20:36 | nengard | thanks |
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| 20:36 | sekjal | but that could be another mechanism |
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| 20:51 | gmcharlt | @wunder YYZ |
| 20:51 | huginn | gmcharlt: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson, Ontario is -8.0�C (3:46 PM EST on February 01, 2011). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: N/A%. Windchill: -16.0�C. Pressure: (Falling). |
| 20:51 | gmcharlt | *sigh* |
| 20:53 | rangi | @wunder wellington nz |
| 20:53 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 02, 2011). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:55 | darling joined #koha | |
| 20:55 | darling | hello people |
| 20:56 | rangi | hi darling |
| 20:56 | darling | we might want to put a more easy to see news item on the web site re the irc change |
| 20:57 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #53: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/53/ |
| 20:57 | Nicole C. Engard: add maxItemsInSearchResults preference | |
| 20:57 | rangi | yup, we were just waiting to see if it stuck first |
| 20:58 | no one has spazzed out yet, so id say that it has | |
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| 21:10 | gmcharlt | I see that the Katipo IRC server just came back |
| 21:10 | I'm going to change its topic | |
| 21:10 | actually, never mind, don't have op there | |
| 21:10 | alohalog the bot does | |
| 21:11 | rangi | wasab1: can you fix? |
| 21:15 | hudsonbot | Starting build 54 for job Koha_Docs_Master_Branch (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 21:26 | Nicole C. Engard: add shelf browser preferences | |
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| 21:32 | gbengaadara joined #koha | |
| 21:32 | * Brooke_ | waves to mr. adara |
| 21:32 | gbengaadara | Hello |
| 21:33 | Ahmuck joined #koha | |
| 21:33 | gbengaadara | Trying to get prepared for the meeting in some hours time |
| 21:34 | rangi | 12 hours time :) |
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| 21:39 | Ahmuck | rangi: space for what? |
| 21:39 | rangi | eh? |
| 21:40 | Ahmuck | linode space |
| 21:40 | need more space for what? | |
| 21:41 | rangi | brb |
| 21:41 | meeting | |
| 21:41 | Ahmuck | kk, i'll be back in about 1.5 hours |
| 21:42 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Docs_Master_Branch build #55: SUCCESS in 12 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Master_Branch/55/ |
| 21:42 | Nicole C. Engard: update opac renewal image now that you can select multiples | |
| 21:50 | slef | chris_n: on the one hand, it worked. On the other, having it buried in amongst updatedatabase output isn't going to be much of a big flag to most people who upgrade koha. |
| 21:59 | rangi | Ahmuck: back, my linode runs bugs. paste. download. and hudson. ... it needs more disk if we want it to do much more |
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| 22:00 | rangi | http://www.guardian.co.uk/book[…]rotecting-library |
| 22:00 | for those who havent seen it yet | |
| 22:00 | ibeardslee | that is just amazing |
| 22:01 | Brooke_ | that's awesome |
| 22:01 | ibeardslee | sadly no-one did that when Baghdad 'fell' |
| 22:01 | * Brooke_ | volunteered to go to Iraq to protect their Library for internship credit, but her Library School was having none of it |
| 22:01 | ibeardslee | massive looting in their mueseum |
| 22:01 | rangi | yeah :( |
| 22:04 | Brooke_ | some of it will turn up again years later |
| 22:04 | shouldn't have to hold out that sort of hope | |
| 22:05 | ibeardslee | and some will stay in the hands of private collectors or be destroyed by people how wonder of a second about the junk their relative collected as they biff stuff into the skip |
| 22:08 | and now onto something koha related .. | |
| 22:08 | rangi | there are koha libraries in egypt |
| 22:08 | 2 in cairo i think | |
| 22:08 | ibeardslee | if I have books, dvds and Cds in my personal koha instance |
| 22:08 | Brooke_ | oh dear |
| 22:08 | * Brooke_ | smells a cataloguing question |
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| 22:09 | Brooke_ | Bob! |
| 22:09 | BobB | Hi Brooke ! |
| 22:10 | ibeardslee | can (as an example) Sting (as an author) show as the author of his book of poems, the 'author' of this CDs and as the actor in (eg Dune)? |
| 22:11 | * rangi | passes |
| 22:12 | rangi | you get those kinda answers wrong |
| 22:12 | Brooke_ | it should if they're catalogued properly |
| 22:12 | rangi | and cataloguing valkyries ride in and stab you |
| 22:12 | Brooke_ | it's shooting by the gay cataloguing mafia that is the more immediate danger |
| 22:12 | the valyries are rarer. | |
| 22:12 | valkyries even | |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea_ | there are cataloguing valkyries?! |
| 22:13 | rangi | im my version of the world there are |
| 22:13 | Brooke_ | shhh you'll provoke them |
| 22:13 | * wizzyrea_ | gulps |
| 22:13 | Brooke_ | anyhoo |
| 22:13 | you needs be sure that they all have Sting as an access point | |
| 22:14 | and if you've tagging active | |
| 22:14 | you can always double down and make sure it's tagged on top of that | |
| 22:14 | this is the sort of thing that DC would make very easy by it's creator dohickey | |
| 22:14 | its | |
| 22:15 | oof | |
| 22:15 | wasab1 | rangi: will fix katipo irc in a tic |
| 22:15 | rangi | danke |
| 22:15 | Brooke_ | does that sufficiently answer your question, or would you like me to take a closer look via email or summat? |
| 22:16 | ibeardslee | It seems possible .. rather than a straight 'NO' |
| 22:19 | jcamins_irssi | If a record is failing to display in XSLT.pm, that means that the marcxml field is corrupt, correct? |
| 22:20 | (biblioitems.marcxml) | |
| 22:20 | wasab1 | rangi: ops granted katipo irc…. |
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| 22:20 | gmcharlt | jcamins_irssi: maybe, maybe not; is there anything in the log? |
| 22:21 | wasab1: thanks | |
| 22:21 | jcamins_irssi | I'm looking now. |
| 22:22 | Ahmuck left #koha | |
| 22:24 | jcamins_irssi | I don't know. |
| 22:25 | gmcharlt | wasab1: looks like you need to do it again, the katipo IRC server just bounced |
| 22:27 | rangi | russ got ops that time, he'll op ppl when he gets a chance |
| 22:29 | wasab1 | cheers |
| 22:33 | hdl | good night |
| 22:36 | Brooke_ | good night! |
| 22:36 | sleep well | |
| 22:42 | hdl left #koha | |
| 22:55 | Brooke_ | surely someone has a choice stopped image of Mr. Poulain doing the haka... |
| 22:59 | rangi | psst |
| 22:59 | a haka | |
| 22:59 | pet peeve, there isnt only one :) | |
| 22:59 | Brooke_ | okay fine |
| 22:59 | I will be more specific | |
| 23:00 | does anyone have a picture of Paul doing the *wrong* haka? | |
| 23:00 | wizzyrea_ | rofl |
| 23:00 | rangi | it is the wrong one actually :) |
| 23:00 | Brooke_ | I realise that :) |
| 23:00 | if they weren't so camera happy, I'd have played with the poi | |
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| 23:02 | wizzyrea_ | lordie this snow is outrageous |
| 23:02 | rangi | you better be taking photos |
| 23:03 | wizzyrea_ | I just took a video, but the snow flakes are so small that they don't really show |
| 23:03 | rangi | do time lapse stuff |
| 23:03 | wizzyrea_ | good point |
| 23:03 | Brooke_ | uh oh |
| 23:03 | not small ones | |
| 23:03 | they have beady little eyes and accumulate | |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea_ | there's a 3 foot drift by my front door |
| 23:04 | Brooke_ | not like those big threatening fluffy things that get all blown out in like 5 minutes |
| 23:15 | jcamins_irssi | Anyone have any thoughts on how a record which included a field with no subfields could get into Koha? |
| 23:15 | bulkmarcimport.pl won't import it. | |
| 23:15 | Sensibly. | |
| 23:17 | wizzyrea_ | Brooke_: I love snow :) |
| 23:18 | Brooke_ | go live next door to Magnus then ;) |
| 23:18 | * Brooke_ | vastly prefers Polynesia. |
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| 23:20 | jcamins_irssi | Theory: what if you created a record using a framework that allowed you to put data into 655$9, and you didn't put anything in any other subfield of 655, then you changed the framework? |
| 23:24 | Brooke_ | almost chow time |
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