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01:01 | brendan | night all - heading home :) |
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05:27 | kmkale | good morning #koha |
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06:17 | cait | morning #koha |
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06:26 | kmkale | morning cait |
06:26 | cait | hi kmkale :) |
06:26 | kmkale | are you aware of any RFC / enhancement in works for adding local cover images support? |
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06:32 | cait | kmkale: I think someone wrote on the mailing list about it some time ago - but I don't remember a rfc on the wiki |
06:33 | kmkale | I am searching the wiki then will search the lists. I have just received a sponsor for the feature |
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06:33 | cait | hey, that's cool :) |
06:33 | kmkale | :) |
06:34 | cait | I think somethink like - check local - check online (amazon, google books...) would be good |
06:34 | have koha use a local picture if one exists and a online picture else | |
06:34 | kmkale | Yup. I will send out a email on devel soon with the scope of work requesting for comments and suggestions |
06:35 | just checking if someone had any ideas concerning this already in a rfc. | |
06:35 | will also put a rfc in wiki today | |
06:42 | bug 1633 | |
06:42 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1633 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Add ability to take book cover images from local img db |
06:42 | cait | ah, bugzilla |
06:42 | really old suggestion | |
06:42 | kmkale | also a nice discussion here http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.[…]l/3365/focus=3367 |
06:43 | cait | I am looking at some old bugs right now |
06:43 | perhaps we can lower the open bugs countn a little :) | |
06:45 | kmkale | good for weekend |
06:50 | cait | kmkale: what time is it for you now? |
06:50 | @wunder Konstanz | |
06:50 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7�C (7:50 AM CET on December 11, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa (Steady). |
06:50 | kmkale | 12.22pm |
06:50 | @weather Mumbai | |
06:50 | cait | ah |
06:50 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 25.0�C (11:40 AM IST on December 11, 2010). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
06:51 | cait | 7:52am |
06:51 | kmkale | munin your time is off |
06:51 | munin | kmkale: Error: "your" is not a valid command. |
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06:59 | chris | its the time it got the weather report, not what time it thinks it is |
07:02 | cait | hi chris |
07:03 | kmkale | aahh |
07:03 | hi chris | |
07:05 | cait | @wunder wellington, nz |
07:05 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0�C (7:00 PM NZDT on December 11, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). |
07:40 | cait | looks like the reports module is a translation nightmare :( |
07:42 | oh yes | |
07:42 | harcoded strings everywhere but not in the templates | |
07:42 | *sighs* | |
07:49 | * cait | gets a headache from looking at it |
07:55 | kmkale | new server got koha via git clone. make test fails Error: Access denied for user 'booksnmore'@'localhost' (using password: YES) at /home/booksnmore/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 692. I am able to login to mysql suing same credentials :( |
08:17 | cait | sorry kmkale -have to run |
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08:17 | kmkale | bye |
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09:35 | kmkale | it seems if I have a # in mysql password, mysql is happy but koha test fails |
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12:07 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org. Koha 3.2.1 is Now Available - Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0. This channel is logged. | |
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13:34 | nengard | anyone around? |
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13:59 | jcamins_a | nengard: Kind of. |
13:59 | nengard | jcamins i think i'm okay now |
13:59 | jcamins_a | Good. :) |
14:03 | Anyone know anything about the main page of the OPAC not working on IE? | |
14:05 | The sidebar is all jumbled over the main page. | |
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14:13 | nengard | jcamins we had a few issues in ie8 |
14:13 | but that doesn't sound familiar | |
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14:17 | jcamins_a | I guess I'll need to get Windows installed in a VM so I can test. |
14:21 | nengard | ick |
14:22 | jcamins_a | Well, that's a project for another day. |
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14:28 | eric_b | jcamins_a, we think alike :) (ref: Covers images) |
14:33 | kmkale | jcamins_a eric_b you think a file system storage will be better that mysql? |
14:34 | eric_b is now known as ebegin | |
14:35 | ebegin | kmkale, you would store the files in mysql directly? this may be ok for small catalogue, but i don't know what the performances would be for a large one |
14:36 | It also depends of the size of the images. | |
14:39 | kmkale | ebegin: yes i am inclined towards storing in mysql. |
14:40 | isn't that waht we are doing with patron images? | |
14:44 | brb | |
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14:53 | jcamins | kmkale: I would prefer a file system storage. |
14:54 | ebegin: Here's an example of what you're talking about: http://demo.cpbibliography.com[…]pl?biblionumber=1 | |
14:54 | There's actually a 563u, so I would prefer to see the URL put in there, if a URL is entered directly. | |
14:55 | However, I think it would be better if the cataloger didn't have to specify the cover image. | |
14:55 | Perhaps a syspref "use 563u or use MARC tag"? | |
14:58 | kmkale | ebegin: the catalouge looks nice :) |
14:59 | jcamins | kmkale: if you're talking about the C & P demo catalogue, that's mine. ;) |
14:59 | kmkale | thats still loading jcamins slow internet here |
15:00 | jcamins | Okay. |
15:00 | kmkale | i am talking about the link to a canadian catalouge ebegin sent |
15:00 | * jcamins | goes looking for this e-mail... |
15:00 | kmkale | http://arto.inlibro.net/cgi-bi[…]arch.pl?q=Lemiere |
15:01 | jcamins | Nice! |
15:02 | Really, *really* nice. | |
15:02 | Anyway, if you'd like to canibalize (however you spell that) any of my image library functionality: https://github.com/jcamins/koh[…]ree/image_library | |
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15:25 | kmkale | oops never realised i had got disconnected :( |
15:26 | thanks jcamins will dig into that | |
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15:48 | cait | hi #koha :) |
15:53 | hm nobody here | |
15:57 | kmkale | hi cait |
15:58 | cait | hi kmkale |
15:59 | kmkale | :) |
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16:28 | * druthb | waves |
16:31 | cait | hi druthb |
16:37 | kmkale | hey druthb ;) |
16:37 | druthb | hi, cait and kmkale. :) |
16:40 | ebegin | kmkale, thanks :) This is a organisation that lends art pieces. |
16:46 | kmkale | ebegin: i cant see logo/watermark on the images |
16:50 | ebegin | It is more visible in the detail bib. for exeample: http://arto.inlibro.net/cgi-bi[…]biblionumber=3233 |
16:50 | It's a watermark | |
16:50 | kindof | |
16:56 | kmkale | cool |
17:05 | ebegin: i like the details page even better | |
17:18 | cait | doesn' t load for me :( |
17:18 | ah now it did | |
17:18 | tried several times a few minutes ago | |
17:20 | very cool | |
17:24 | beautiful | |
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17:52 | ebegin | thanks! :) |
17:53 | cait | :) |
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17:53 | * cait | waves to jcamins |
17:56 | kmkale | bye all. good night |
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18:32 | cait | chris_n: around? |
18:35 | nengard: around? | |
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19:00 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5467: Kits shown wrong as visual material in XSLT displays <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]98f208e5da588f7e5> / Bug 5446 Item creation in Acquisition module doesn't control mandatory field <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]19475e73177763916> / Add BSZ to Koha's About page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= |
19:00 | hudsonbot | Starting build 191 for job Koha_Master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #188 4 days 22 hr ago) |
19:01 | cait | hi chris |
19:01 | !hudson botsnack lebkuchen | |
19:01 | hudsonbot | cait: you're so kind to me! I could eat lebkuchen all day long |
19:02 | cait | me too hudson... me too |
19:05 | chris | Hi cait |
19:06 | * cait | waves |
19:06 | cait | another patch in koha |
19:06 | * cait | makes a little dance |
19:06 | chris | 2 in fact |
19:06 | cait | does a little dance? nah, I really can't dance, so it doesn't matter |
19:06 | chris | Heh |
19:06 | cait | right :) |
19:06 | chris | Does |
19:07 | cait | how is your weekend? |
19:07 | kmkale signed-off on deletedborrowers... | |
19:07 | chris | Cool haven't got there yet |
19:08 | Colin signed off tons to | |
19:08 | cait | he send it as attached file to the list |
19:08 | yep, he as really busy | |
19:08 | I was going to sign off on nengard's bug 1997 | |
19:08 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1997 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW, sys pref to Edit no results found page |
19:08 | cait | wondering about the sys pref part |
19:08 | should I write a follow up patch to add it to all the sql files? | |
19:08 | how do we deal with that now? | |
19:08 | chris | Yes please |
19:09 | cait | ok, will sign-off with a note and send a follow up |
19:09 | chris | It needs to be in the sql |
19:09 | cait | I rebased it, but only had to change the order in updatadatabase |
19:09 | chris | Else, if someone installs fresh |
19:09 | It won't work | |
19:09 | cait | he will miss it |
19:09 | yeah, I know | |
19:09 | we have a loooot of missing things | |
19:09 | sekjal | oooh, one of my devs depends on 1997, as I recall |
19:10 | chris | Yep |
19:10 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for 4832 - Re-editing a suggestion changes the item type <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3fcd498f81ad7d5df> |
19:10 | cait | some are even missing from prefs - chris_n did some work on that, but didn't manage to talk with him about it yet |
19:10 | chris | Least we have the test to complain about missing ones now |
19:10 | cait | he is hiding from me or something... *looks around* |
19:10 | yeah, but it will complain a lot today | |
19:10 | hi sekjal :) | |
19:11 | sekjal | looks like I'll be reimplementing the opac privacy enhancement paul_p originally did last year |
19:11 | hi, cait | |
19:11 | cait | so is it ok if I do as I said? or do you see a problem? |
19:11 | sekjal++ | |
19:11 | sekjal | (I bring up opacprivacy because it involved a lot of edits to the sql files) |
19:12 | cait | yeah, it's no fun at the moment - but I think we should maintain thefiles as long as there is no other solution |
19:13 | my work on 1997 ok with you sekjal? | |
19:13 | chris | 10 missing ones |
19:13 | So we should be able to fix them, and fix the languages | |
19:13 | But now kahu has stolen my laptop to play gcompris | |
19:13 | So I'm using the phone | |
19:13 | cait | I started looking on old bugs yesterday... lots of lost kittens |
19:13 | chris | So no more patches for a little bit |
19:14 | sekjal | cait: yes, please, rebase and signoff |
19:14 | cait | sekjal: ok :) |
19:14 | sekjal | I need to rebase that dev, anyway, and if we can get that part of high enough quality to add to Koha, it'll make my life that much simpler |
19:14 | cait | chris: you could try to make a deal with him, maybe offer chocolate or something? |
19:15 | sekjal: now you are confusing me :) | |
19:15 | sekjal | cait: sorry |
19:15 | cait | ah, happens a lot |
19:15 | but normally Brooke is around ;) | |
19:16 | sekjal | the dev I'm talking about is not quite publish-level. I'm going to do some cleanup, rebase it onto 3.2, and get it ready for submission |
19:16 | * sekjal | 's goal is to get as much signed-off on and into Koha as possible before releasing it to clients |
19:16 | cait | :) |
19:17 | yeah, we have a similar rule - trying to do no customizations | |
19:17 | but we have no real development projects, so it's much easier | |
19:18 | and bywater++ | |
19:18 | chris | If you rebase on master, that would be cool |
19:19 | chris_n cherry-picks from master | |
19:20 | The longer we can do this the less chance we have of features sneaking into 3.2 and not master | |
19:20 | Happened with 3.0 and is a mess to fix | |
19:20 | cait | yeah :( |
19:20 | like recent acquisitions | |
19:21 | chris: ah, I saw that you are still the default assignee in bugzilla for I18N issues | |
19:21 | chris: can you change it to fredericd? | |
19:21 | I made the mistake to look at guided reports earlier today... | |
19:22 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #191: STILL UNSTABLE in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/191/ |
19:22 | * Katrin Fischer: Add BSZ to Koha's About page | |
19:22 | * f.demians at tamil.fr: Bug 5446 Item creation in Acquisition module doesn't control mandatory field | |
19:22 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5467: Kits shown wrong as visual material in XSLT displays | |
19:22 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for 4832 - Re-editing a suggestion changes the item type | |
19:22 | chris | Will do |
19:23 | Cait: I think we should remove all of guided reports | |
19:23 | Except the sql bit | |
19:23 | cait | that's a solution too... |
19:23 | chris | Its not actually useful |
19:23 | Brb getting atarau breakfast | |
19:24 | But I might ask on list if ppl use it | |
19:24 | I hate it and I wrote it initially (under protest I might add) | |
19:24 | cait | I think it has a lot of translation issues |
19:24 | can't say much about functionality | |
19:24 | my libary asked about it. but I kind of refused to train them - because I have to figure it out myself first | |
19:25 | not really refusing - but telling them that I have to look at it first | |
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19:26 | cait | chris: why do you hate it? |
19:27 | chris | Its reinventing the wheel in a bad way |
19:28 | There are tools for reporting against an sql db | |
19:28 | That do a much better job | |
19:28 | You can't create a good report without understanding the koha db anywya | |
19:29 | So you may as well use the sql bit, or a better repprting tool | |
19:29 | The guided one just allows to create really simple and mostly useless reports | |
19:36 | cait | hm, the bug report I closed earlier today seems to indicate people are using it - or at least trying to |
19:37 | chris | Yep I think wed be better finding a good free software tool |
19:37 | And telling ppl to use it | |
19:38 | They have stuff like compound reports and graphs etc | |
19:38 | cait | ah, wanted to ask you something else |
19:38 | chris | Its a solved problem |
19:38 | Resolving it in koha seems like a waste of effort | |
19:38 | cait | bug 3080 reminded me of the missing reports in acq - the old links from the budget table |
19:38 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3080 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, ASSIGNED, "spent" of budget and funds doesn't work |
19:39 | chris | Yes I want those back |
19:39 | They were very useful | |
19:39 | cait | chris: I think a short survey would be good - we are not using it and paul's sql parameters will help writing some more interactive reports |
19:39 | yeah | |
19:39 | chris | And on the main acq page too |
19:39 | cait | lots of complaints at training about them missing |
19:40 | yeah, I meant those | |
19:46 | sekjal | okay, about time to check out of the hotel, and move on to other wifi pastures... |
19:46 | chris | Cya |
19:47 | sekjal | bye, chris and cait! hope to see you shortly.... but we'll see what's available |
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19:57 | * cait | is confused |
19:58 | cait | fr-FR has no sql file for system preferences? |
19:59 | chris | Really? |
19:59 | Well they don't need it now | |
19:59 | cait | ah, it's been renamed |
19:59 | chris | Not with the new sysprefs editor |
19:59 | cait | we donÄt need it for translations, but you need it for install |
19:59 | chris | Everything should use the same sql for install |
20:00 | cait | I agree |
20:00 | that would fix the mess we are in now | |
20:00 | chris | Only the frameworks need to be different |
20:00 | cait | although it will cost us some small things |
20:00 | like the possibility to translate the defualt values for salutations and such | |
20:01 | chris | Right but I think that's better than inconsistent prefs |
20:01 | cait | I agree |
20:01 | so the solution is to make the web installer always use the en file | |
20:02 | chris | For sysprefs at least |
20:02 | cait | yes |
20:02 | perhaps for all sql files that are not in the folder and mandatory | |
20:03 | but fr-FR has renamed files - that makes it a bit harder | |
20:04 | chris | Yeah not sure why they did that |
20:15 | cait | ru-RU and Ukrainian too |
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20:15 | cait | wb sekjal :) |
20:15 | sekjal | thanks |
20:15 | alright, so I'm in Reno, NV right now, in a casino, waiting for my wife's flight to arrive | |
20:16 | no coffee shop to speak of, but one of the pubs has wifi | |
20:16 | I assume that means it's socially acceptable to be on my laptop here | |
20:20 | cait | I would think so ;) |
20:21 | sekjal | it means I'm going to staying for a while... I'd think they'd encourage that |
20:26 | cait | sekjal: sent patches and updated bug 1997 |
20:26 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1997 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, NEW, sys pref to Edit no results found page |
20:26 | sekjal | thanks, cait! |
20:26 | cait | you are welcome :) |
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20:28 | sekjal | howdy, druthb! |
20:28 | cait | second opinion about bug 3009 |
20:28 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3009 normal, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW, Change items.content field so it prints due date by default |
20:28 | cait | I think she is right - changing to due date ok? |
20:30 | druthb | hi, sekjal and cait. :) |
20:31 | cait | hi druthb :) |
20:31 | druthb | ibot: sekjal? |
20:31 | ibot | bugger all, i dunno, druthb |
20:31 | cait | druthb? |
20:31 | ibot | druthb is fond of cookies. |
20:31 | druthb | sekjal is a wonderful geek. |
20:31 | sekjal? | |
20:31 | ibot | sekjal is a wonderful geek. |
20:31 | sekjal | awwww |
20:31 | cait | chris? |
20:31 | ibot | chris is, like, awesome |
20:32 | cait | ibot botsnack chocolate |
20:32 | ibot | thanks cait :) |
20:32 | * cait | suddenly thinks about big bang theory |
20:32 | druthb | ibot: druthb? |
20:32 | ibot | somebody said druthb was way too chirpy for jwagner. |
20:32 | * druthb | chuckles. |
20:32 | druthb | ibot: botsnack cookie |
20:32 | ibot | :) |
20:33 | cait | we are spoiling him |
20:33 | ibot: ibot? | |
20:33 | ibot | i am still small - he needs to learn more :) |
20:33 | druthb | no, ibot is really clever. |
20:33 | ibot? | |
20:33 | ibot | druthb? |
20:33 | druthb | lol |
20:33 | ibot: ibot? | |
20:33 | ibot | rumour has it i am still small - he needs to learn more :) |
20:33 | druthb | ibot: forget ibot |
20:33 | ibot | druthb: I forgot ibot |
20:34 | cait | you will send him into an identity crisis |
20:34 | druthb | ibot: ibot is a clever being |
20:34 | ibot | OK, druthb. |
20:34 | druthb | ibot: chris? |
20:34 | ibot | chris is awesome |
20:34 | druthb | wizzyrea? |
20:34 | ibot | wizzyrea is, like, a mom |
20:34 | druthb | wizzyrea? |
20:34 | ibot | rumour has it wizzyrea is a mom |
20:34 | druthb | hm. |
20:34 | cait | wizzyrea? |
20:34 | ibot | wizzyrea is prone to laughing |
20:34 | druthb | gmcharlt? |
20:34 | cait | chris_n? |
20:34 | ibot | chris_n is wright :-[ |
20:34 | cait | jcamins? |
20:34 | ibot | jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. |
20:35 | druthb | cait? |
20:35 | ibot | i heard cait was really sweet. |
20:35 | cait | hehe |
20:35 | druthb | kf? |
20:35 | ibot | well, kf is an excellent cook: she makes tasty königsberger klopse mit salzkartoffeln. |
20:35 | * druthb | giggles |
20:37 | cait | *sighs* |
20:37 | * cait | threatens to stop the German lessons |
20:37 | druthb | Leo will teach me. |
20:37 | cait | pah |
20:37 | ok, then go and talk to Leo ... ;) | |
20:38 | druthb | awww... |
20:39 | cait | due date, duedate or date due? |
20:41 | druthb | Depends on where you are. |
20:43 | cait | hmpf |
20:43 | I checked my borrower account and decided for date due | |
20:43 | hm, no due date... | |
20:44 | hmpf. | |
20:44 | sekjal | date_due for issues table |
20:46 | * druthb | is merrily packaging the one christmas present she has purchased already.. |
20:51 | * cait | ignores druthb |
20:51 | cait | sekjal: the problem was updating the pod :) |
20:51 | sekjal | ah |
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20:57 | * sekjal | is not a fan of VPNs |
21:16 | cait | sekjal: do you know if bug 3068 is still a problem? |
21:16 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3068 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Auth.pm: IP address matching overly generous |
21:17 | sekjal | I wrote a patch for it a long time ago, but it was not accepted |
21:17 | it was my first, actually | |
21:17 | there are two issues, really | |
21:17 | one is sloppy regex | |
21:17 | the other is the inability to have more than one IP range for a library | |
21:17 | first is trivial to fix. second is a db update | |
21:18 | cait | hm, want to update the bug? ;) |
21:19 | sekjal | I'll take care of it |
21:25 | cait | thx :) |
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21:28 | sekjal | sorry I keep dropping out |
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21:33 | cait | I said: thx :) |
21:38 | hi Nate | |
21:38 | Nate | Hi cait! |
21:39 | sekjal | hey, Nate |
21:39 | Nate | hiya sekjal! |
21:41 | sekjal | gots to love #koha on the weekend |
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22:03 | cait | weekends are very silent |
22:54 | brendan_l | they sure are :) |
22:54 | boo | |
23:00 | * druthb | jumps |
23:00 | * cait | hides |
23:01 | * druthb | runs and hides with cait |
23:02 | * sekjal | counts to 50 |
23:06 | cait | lol |
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23:10 | sekjal_ is now known as sekjal | |
23:12 | cait | hm after midnight |
23:17 | * druthb | wonders when cait is gonna pass out. |
23:17 | cait | I am still here |
23:18 | sekjal | lost my DNS resolution for now, but I still got IRC! |
23:19 | druthb | yay! |
23:19 | sekjal | sort of limits my ability browse the interwebs, though.... I seldom remember IPs |
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23:30 | cait | good night all :) |
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