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| 00:13 | rhcl_away | ibot speaks Chinese? |
| 00:13 | ibot | no idea, rhcl_away |
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| 01:12 | ray | Good morning! |
| 01:12 | How can I show the item number of books in the OPAC? | |
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| 03:02 | * druthb | slips back in |
| 03:40 | jransom | druthb : isn't it like the middle of the night over there? |
| 03:40 | druthb | 22:45. Not *that* late. |
| 03:48 | jransom | oh - not its hardly late at all :) |
| 04:00 | brendan | evening |
| 04:01 | * druthb | waves to brendan |
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| 04:05 | jransom | hiya |
| 04:05 | brendan | heya jransom |
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| 05:02 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
| 05:02 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.4�C (8:59 PM PST on December 09, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Steady). |
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| 05:11 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:20 | brendan | morning cait |
| 05:20 | cait | hi brendan :) |
| 05:33 | brendan | how's things cait? |
| 05:34 | cait | still trying to wake up |
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| 05:34 | cait | and you are still here? :) |
| 05:34 | brendan | yeah gonna be here for a bit :) |
| 05:53 | cait | still dark outside :( |
| 06:39 | brendan: as you are still around... looking at bug 4160 | |
| 06:39 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4160 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Currency Conversion dosn't handle rates other than 100 |
| 06:39 | cait | you think the posted solution is ok to write into a patch? |
| 06:39 | brendan | I am around - not currently though |
| 06:39 | I mean I'm off wrapping my mind on something else for the moment | |
| 06:40 | cait | ok :) |
| 06:41 | just looking for a second opinion | |
| 06:41 | I will write it up - it will be easy to change the data type if someone suggests something else | |
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| 06:44 | cait | git.koha-community.org is broken for me with an xml error :( |
| 06:44 | brendan | trying to clone from there? |
| 06:44 | or just view? | |
| 06:44 | if viewing - it worked for me | |
| 06:48 | cait | no just view |
| 06:48 | cloning went ok | |
| 06:52 | brendan | ah ok - sorry worked fine from here :) |
| 06:55 | cait | strange |
| 06:55 | unhappy firefoy maybe | |
| 06:57 | firefox | |
| 07:04 | ok patch done, waiting for complaints ;) | |
| 07:04 | chris | back |
| 07:04 | i might try and catch up patches over the weekned, otherwise they will have to wait until monday | |
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| 07:08 | brendan | heya chris |
| 07:08 | wb | |
| 07:17 | cait | hi chris :) |
| 07:17 | everything went ok? | |
| 07:18 | chris | yup |
| 07:19 | cait | cool :) |
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| 07:26 | cait | ok, time to get ready for work - bye all! |
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| 08:12 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:16 | magnus | kia ora, #koha |
| 08:16 | chris | hi kf and magnus |
| 08:17 | kf | hi chris... you are still here :) |
| 08:17 | god morgen magnus :) | |
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| 08:18 | magnus | hi chris & kf |
| 08:18 | isn't chris always here? ;-) | |
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| 08:22 | kf | hm, kind of |
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| 08:32 | * magnus | will be attending a training course on SPARQL through skype for the rest of the day |
| 08:32 | magnus is now known as magnus_a | |
| 08:32 | kf | oh |
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| 09:21 | kf | hi ivanc |
| 09:21 | ivanc | guten morgen kf |
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| 09:21 | ivanc | hi #koha |
| 09:40 | brendan_l | night #koha :) |
| 09:41 | kf | good ngiht brendan |
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| 10:25 | kmkale | I upgraded one library from 3.00.05 to 3.02.01 and the empty yellow box on circulation is back :( |
| 10:27 | there is no error reported in logs at all.. | |
| 10:44 | kf | the empty yellow box for accounts with an overdue book? |
| 10:46 | kmkale | yup |
| 10:46 | I have discovered this installation is using en-GB for staff interface. Inspite of en being selected in sysprefs. | |
| 10:47 | kf | ah, have you recreated your templates after updating? |
| 10:47 | kmkale | and there are tns of diferences between en & en-GB in circulation.tmpl |
| 10:47 | recreated templates? how? | |
| 10:47 | kf | standard or dev install? |
| 10:48 | kmkale | standard |
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| 10:48 | kf | hm, never done it there, but what I do in my dev installations is: cd misc/translator, perl translate install en-GB |
| 10:49 | kmkale | ughh. Never had to do that. Mystery is why is it using en-GB |
| 10:49 | kf | yeah |
| 10:49 | that is mysterious | |
| 10:49 | do you need it? | |
| 10:50 | kmkale | when syspref says en. I changed syspref to and fro some value. No effect |
| 10:50 | kf | hm, could perhaps be your browser settings - it's trying to guess the right language from there |
| 10:50 | kmkale | en-GB? nope |
| 10:50 | kf | you could delete de en-GB folders |
| 10:50 | kmkale | trying |
| 10:50 | kf | a bit drastic perhaps... but they are not up to date anyway |
| 10:50 | delete the... | |
| 10:52 | kmkale | hah moved en-GB dir to old-en-GB and it did the trick. Now I am getting "Patron has had overdue items and is blocked for 10 day(s)." |
| 10:53 | kf | yeah, your templates were not up-to-date |
| 10:53 | perhaps you will see problems with other languages too | |
| 10:53 | how did oyu do your update? | |
| 10:53 | have you downloaded the tarball with all language files included? | |
| 10:53 | kmkale | yikes kf. its eerie the way we keep returning to translations past few days :( |
| 10:53 | kf | quite normal for me :) |
| 10:54 | kmkale | yup tarball download. then followed the upgrade process with old install log etc |
| 10:54 | kf | I have accepted translation as a never ending story |
| 10:54 | yeah, but which tarball? | |
| 10:54 | the bigger or the small one? | |
| 10:54 | kmkale | koha-3.02.01.tar.gz |
| 10:55 | kf | did it include the directories for en-GB? |
| 10:55 | kmkale | 32mb |
| 10:55 | kf | unpacked? |
| 10:56 | if it didn't include the templates for the other languages you will need to update them | |
| 10:56 | kmkale | no the unpacked tarball does not have en-GB |
| 10:56 | no wonder | |
| 10:56 | how do I update templates? | |
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| 10:57 | kmkale | more importantly why is it using en-GB in the first place. How do I hunt that |
| 10:57 | kf | I suspect your language settings in the browser |
| 10:58 | it's trying to detect the language - I am sometimes forced to look at really ugly German OPACs - because people modified templates for only one language or forget to put the css files in all language folders | |
| 10:58 | and you can try running the translation script | |
| 10:59 | from misc/translator run perl translate install <language-code> | |
| 10:59 | ok, lunch time :) | |
| 10:59 | will be back later | |
| 10:59 | kmkale | bye and thanks again |
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| 11:34 | kf | back |
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| 11:45 | kmkale | I could not figure out why it was taking en-GB. My browser is set to en_IN and the mysql syspref was set to en. |
| 11:58 | kf | hm, no idea then |
| 12:09 | pastebot | "kmkale" at 59.181.126.113 pasted "IN 3.02.01 missing AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/circulation.pref" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/114 |
| 12:11 | kmkale | I have the AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues syspref in mysql table; I have the corresponding USERBLOCKEDOVERDUE and USERBLOCKEDREMAINING blocks in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/circ/circulation.tmpl but no AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues section in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/circulation.pref as you can see from the above paste |
| 12:11 | kf | kmkale: you can add to the general syspref chaos bug: bug 5474 |
| 12:11 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5474 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Missing sys prefs in translated sysprefs.sql |
| 12:12 | kmkale | as bug 4036 was fixed resolved and pushed it should be there. :( |
| 12:12 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4036 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Two conditions missing from circ template messages: USERBLOCKEDOVERDUE and USERBLOCKEDREMAINING |
| 12:12 | kmkale | but its NOT translated. This in en :( |
| 12:12 | kf | hm yes it probably should |
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| 12:12 | kf | there was anotherproblem like yours added to the bug today |
| 12:12 | I think the sql files and .pref files are not in sync | |
| 12:13 | kmkale | and I have downloaded stable tar.gz from site yesterday and checked the mdy ;) |
| 12:13 | s/mdy/md5/ | |
| 12:13 | kf | I believe you ;) |
| 12:14 | and it should have been added I think: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=1795 | |
| 12:17 | kmkale | And I dont have AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues in C4/Members.pm |
| 12:18 | now I am going mad | |
| 12:19 | kf | plz don't |
| 12:21 | git search for bug number: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]&st=commit&s=4036 | |
| 12:22 | kmkale: it seems it's not in git? | |
| 12:23 | don't see it here, plz check: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e14012933a67793e7 | |
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| 12:25 | kmkale | kf: It seems patch pushed was different from patches attached to the bug report? |
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| 12:30 | kf | kmkale: yep, I think you are right |
| 12:30 | not sure I found all - perhaps some were pushed without the bug number in subject | |
| 12:30 | I think this is a bug - can you file a short bug report? | |
| 12:31 | kmkale | sorry phone call |
| 12:32 | I made changes as per patch attached to bug 4036 and now the system is working as expected. | |
| 12:32 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4036 blocker, P5, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Two conditions missing from circ template messages: USERBLOCKEDOVERDUE and USERBLOCKEDREMAINING |
| 12:32 | kf | or better - reopen the existing bug with your findings? |
| 12:32 | kmkale | 4036? |
| 12:33 | kf | not sure |
| 12:33 | ibot | not sure are you using git? |
| 12:33 | kf | hehe |
| 12:33 | ibot: git? | |
| 12:33 | ibot | well, git is found at http://git.koha-community.org |
| 12:33 | kmkale | no. for this install I am using stable tarball |
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| 12:34 | kmkale | its an upgrade from 3.00.05 to 3.02.01 |
| 12:35 | i will send a mail on koha-devel with what I found | |
| 12:37 | kf | kmkale: the problem is that I don't see the it in the .pref file on git either |
| 12:37 | it's nto there | |
| 12:37 | so it can't exist in your pref file | |
| 12:38 | kmkale | but one thing is sure there is no AllowIssuingForPatronsWithOverdues in C4/Members.pm in the untarred source tree of koha-3.02.01.tar.gz |
| 12:38 | i just checked | |
| 12:39 | kf | was it ther in 3.0.x? |
| 12:40 | kmkale | checking |
| 12:40 | no | |
| 12:41 | but since the tmpl functionality existed in 3.2 there was a problem of blank yellow box. | |
| 12:41 | adding the syspref and member.pm bits resolved the issue | |
| 12:41 | kf | yeah |
| 12:41 | you could send a patch? :) | |
| 12:44 | kmkale | nope |
| 12:45 | I will send a email on koha-devel | |
| 12:45 | I wish gmcharlt will take a look at this since he seems to have pushed the patches here http://git.koha-community.org/[…]&st=commit&s=4036 | |
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| 13:36 | kmkale | bbl |
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| 14:11 | kf | hi owen |
| 14:12 | owen | Hi |
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| 15:18 | owen | It's like being the doorman in a busy building. Just people coming and going. |
| 15:18 | trea | indeed |
| 15:19 | kf | :) |
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| 15:37 | kf | time to go - see you all later :) |
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| 15:51 | hdl | hi owen |
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| 16:34 | jwagner | It's snowing outside! That wasn't in the forecast for today.... |
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| 17:22 | jcamins | For any of the NZers around- what's a Slice? Joann's recipe sounds delicious, but I have no idea what it's supposed to come out looking like. |
| 17:26 | chris | http://farm4.static.flickr.com[…]72_a48558dd29.jpg |
| 17:28 | owen | Hm, why didn't I pack that in my lunch? |
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| 18:00 | owen | I just pushed a branch for my jquery-ui work so far if anyone is interested: http://gitorious.org/koha-dev/koha-dev |
| 18:00 | ip-bug-5481-jquery-ui-2010-12-09 is the branch | |
| 18:02 | jcamins | Mmmm. That looks good. |
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| 19:00 | * Brooke | waves to Magnus. |
| 19:00 | * magnus | waves back to Brooke and the rest of #koha |
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| 19:13 | brendan | morning |
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| 19:15 | magnus | hiya brendan |
| 19:15 | brendan | hey magnus |
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| 19:17 | * Brooke | waves at wizzy |
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| 19:17 | magnus | is wizzyrea_ playing hide and seek with us or something? |
| 19:18 | Brooke | Dunno, count to a hundred and see if she returns. ;) |
| 19:19 | magnus | ok |
| 19:20 | ...and 100 | |
| 19:26 | * Brooke | admires Magnus' advanced counting mechanics. |
| 19:27 | Brooke | Now go ask your father. |
| 19:28 | magnus | perl -e 'print 1..100' |
| 19:31 | Brooke | :D |
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| 19:35 | magnus | hiya druthb |
| 19:35 | druthb | hi, magnus! :) |
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| 20:22 | sylvar | magnus: I used a trick like perl -e 'print 1..100' when I was about 10 years old. I had been bad and was given the punishment of writing something 100 times. I asked if I could type it because I was trying to teach myself how to type. |
| 20:23 | The teacher never heard of letter-quality daisywheel printers. 10 FOR X = 1 TO 100 20 LPRINT "I will not cheat on my assignments" 30 NEXT X | |
| 20:31 | Brooke | heh heh |
| 20:32 | magnus | hee hee |
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| 20:33 | * Brooke | waves at ebegin |
| 20:33 | ebegin | hi brooke! |
| 20:33 | got to go! | |
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| 20:36 | chris | I give up, its like talking to a brickwall |
| 20:39 | nengard | :( |
| 20:40 | chris | Every year the same thing |
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| 20:43 | cait | hi #koha |
| 20:45 | Brooke | hi Cait :D |
| 20:45 | cait | hi Broooke |
| 20:47 | magnus | hiya cait |
| 20:47 | cait | hi magnus |
| 20:47 | do you know a-team? where one of them doesn't want to fly? | |
| 20:48 | and nengard doesn't want to go on a boat... | |
| 20:48 | nengard | no boats |
| 20:48 | cait | oh no, she is here |
| 20:48 | nengard | boats + nicole = big horrible mess |
| 20:48 | * cait | hides |
| 20:48 | owen | Sorry nengard , we'll miss you during our cruise! |
| 20:48 | Brooke | ooooooooh |
| 20:48 | that can TOTALLY be next KohaCon | |
| 20:48 | nengard | KohaCon without Nicole ... whoever will do the speaking?? :) |
| 20:49 | magnus | good question ;-) |
| 20:49 | Brooke | *sigh* |
| 20:49 | there will always be a blocker for each of my ideas. | |
| 20:49 | magnus | nengard: you could use skype to talk to us from solid ground somewhere ;-) |
| 20:49 | nengard | as much as i like you all - nothing will get me on a boat for more than a short ride (and only then if there are no roads) |
| 20:50 | magnus | because of the boat as such or because of waves? |
| 20:52 | nengard | because it's a floating death trap ... and cause of the rocking ... and cause it's a floating death trap :) |
| 20:53 | chris | pshaw, its about 1million times safer than a car |
| 20:53 | nengard | car isn't on water |
| 20:53 | :) | |
| 20:53 | cait | nengard: and a flying death trap is better? ;) |
| 20:53 | magnus | ooh, good one, cait ;-) |
| 20:54 | Brooke | yeah |
| 20:54 | I'd much rather take me chances swimming than falling. | |
| 20:54 | chris | yeah or burning |
| 20:54 | magnus | +1 |
| 20:54 | chris | or smashing |
| 20:54 | or being thrown throw a window | |
| 20:54 | thru even | |
| 20:54 | nengard | not convincing me |
| 20:54 | no boats | |
| 20:54 | Brooke | no, no, no. I only wanted to set meself on fire while Bush was Resident. |
| 20:55 | magnus | resident president? ;-) |
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| 20:57 | * cait | whispers to magnus: we could kidnap her... don't let her look through windows or on deck... tell her it's underground |
| 20:58 | nengard | why are we stuck on this being a cruise exactly? |
| 20:58 | * magnus | whispers to cait: hey, good plan! |
| 20:58 | cait | magnus? |
| 20:58 | ibot | rumour has it magnus is an awesome fellow |
| 20:58 | cait | yeah, because of that |
| 20:58 | nengard | hehe |
| 20:59 | * owen | fears good internet connectivity would be a problem on a cruise |
| 20:59 | nengard | good point |
| 20:59 | guess we'll need to hold it ON LAND | |
| 21:00 | Brooke | pff, that's infinitely solveable with Satellite. |
| 21:00 | magnus | well, http://www.insightcruises.com/ does all kinds of geek cruises i would thnk they have figured that one out ;-) |
| 21:00 | * Brooke | highfives Magnus |
| 21:00 | magnus | yay! |
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| 21:03 | cait | hehe |
| 21:03 | magnus | kohacruise? |
| 21:03 | ibot | i heard kohacruise was a good idea |
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| 21:03 | nengard | magnus didn't even click the link - no boats |
| 21:04 | jc_ircdem | Hello all, demoing IRC through Mibbit for an intern. |
| 21:04 | magnus | hiya jc_ircdem |
| 21:04 | * owen | remembers when insightcruises was geekcruises and they did cruises devoted to Perl and stuff like that |
| 21:04 | Brooke | Hi there folks on the other side of the interweb tubes. |
| 21:06 | magnus | owen: i thought that's what they do still? at least they have some mac cruises planned? |
| 21:06 | owen | magnus: Yeah, but mostly it's much less geeky now, at least less computer-geeky |
| 21:07 | Now it's science and astronomy and history and, uh... quilting? | |
| 21:07 | * Brooke | suspects Owen is a proprietary geek because he isn't open to starwatchers and history buffs. |
| 21:07 | Brooke | Get off the lawn!!!! |
| 21:07 | * owen | is just sorry he missed his chance to ever go on the "Perl Whirl" cruise |
| 21:07 | Brooke | ask for it again :D |
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| 21:08 | Brooke | And the Wisconsin Women Library Workers will quilt a fine story. |
| 21:09 | owen | I have an SQL question: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_filled_by_branch |
| 21:09 | The " concat(date_format(LAST_DAY(now() - interval 1 month),'%Y-%m-%')) " | |
| 21:10 | That would result in "2010-11" ? | |
| 21:10 | magnus | hm, yeah '%Y-%m-%' doesn't look too promising... |
| 21:15 | owen | why the concat() ? |
| 21:15 | magnus | beats me, seems it's only concat'ing the one value |
| 21:16 | cait | sometimes it makes your fields shorter - nicer display |
| 21:16 | in mysql gui something... not sure about koha ;) | |
| 21:17 | owen | Okay, thanks guys. Time to start the weekend. |
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| 21:18 | magnus | good idea! |
| 21:20 | cait | starting the weekend means leaving #koha? |
| 21:21 | I hope not | |
| 21:21 | magnus | hehe |
| 21:22 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
| 21:22 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 21:22 | Brooke | night |
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| 21:38 | cait | chris_n: around? |
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| 22:33 | magnus | g'night #koha - see you tomorrow! |
| 22:33 | trea | night magnus |
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| 23:03 | cait | good night all |
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