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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:38 | * Brooke | still wants to trade her slightly used Sunday in the States for Monday in NZ. |
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| 01:28 | chris | wb wizzyrea_ |
| 01:28 | wizzyrea_ | heya |
| 01:29 | jcamins | Can someone who is not using one of my servers check whether the Host-item: prefix is configured by default in Koha? |
| 01:29 | I'm questioning my sanity, and it's only 8:30pm on Sunday. | |
| 01:30 | Not a good sign. | |
| 01:30 | chris | what is the host item prefix? |
| 01:30 | jcamins | 773$t. |
| 01:30 | Wait, no, sorry. | |
| 01:30 | Host-item: | |
| 01:30 | It searches 773$t. | |
| 01:30 | chris | ive never heard of it |
| 01:30 | i doubt its done by default | |
| 01:30 | jcamins | Probably because you work with sensible data. :) |
| 01:31 | chris | :) |
| 01:32 | wizzyrea_ | "Fauxha" |
| 01:32 | now THAT is funny. | |
| 01:32 | chris | ? |
| 01:32 | wizzyrea_ | in reference to LEK |
| 01:33 | jcamins | Fauxha? |
| 01:33 | Where is that? | |
| 01:33 | ibot | well, that is a risk you have to take... ;-) |
| 01:33 | jcamins | What? |
| 01:33 | Oh. | |
| 01:33 | I see. | |
| 01:33 | wizzyrea_ | yea, it's someone's funny name for LEK |
| 01:33 | chris | :) |
| 01:34 | where did you see it? | |
| 01:34 | jcamins | My confusion was about ibot's response. |
| 01:34 | wizzyrea_ | ohhhh |
| 01:34 | * jcamins | thinks he'd better just be quiet. |
| 01:34 | wizzyrea_ | nah, you need a good snuggle |
| 01:35 | jcamins | I need another weekend. |
| 01:35 | Preferably a more productive one. | |
| 01:36 | wizzyrea_ | me too, but a more relaxing one |
| 01:36 | instead of productive | |
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| 02:09 | Brooke | c'mon now, yer lads can't well lose to the Stinkvens, Chris. |
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| 02:33 | Brooke | time to turn in for nowish. |
| 02:33 | night #koha. | |
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| 03:12 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
| 03:12 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0�C (4:00 PM NZDT on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
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| 03:18 | jcamins | Any Mac users who can explain why my Documents folder just entirely vanished? |
| 03:18 | kmkale | Good Morning #koha |
| 03:18 | jcamins | I mean, the folder is still there, but it's no longer in all the menus. |
| 03:18 | Found the answer. | |
| 03:18 | That's idiotic. | |
| 03:19 | robin | That's Mac. |
| 03:19 | jcamins | robin: I love my Mac, mostly. |
| 03:19 | But seriously, click the wrong button and all the shortcuts disappear? | |
| 03:19 | * robin | is anti-mac, in case you didn't notice ;) |
| 03:19 | * jcamins | is pro-problem-free setup |
| 03:20 | * chris | is pro free software |
| 03:20 | chris | so im in the anti-mac camp with robin im afraid |
| 03:20 | jcamins | Yeah, I know. |
| 03:21 | I think I'll be needing more Cool-aid before I care, though. | |
| 03:21 | ;) | |
| 03:21 | robin | heh |
| 03:21 | jcamins | I mean, about the fact that the Mac is closed. |
| 03:21 | chris | ah youve drunk the cool aid |
| 03:21 | you need anti cool aid :-) | |
| 03:22 | * wizzyrea_ | ditched her iPhone, but can't yet bring herslef to ditch her macbook. |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea_ | maybe the next time I'm up for a new lappy |
| 03:23 | chris | it took darling a couple of years |
| 03:23 | darling | i ran ubuntu on it the last coupla |
| 03:23 | chris | true |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea_ | oh hey darling |
| 03:23 | darling | mostly even worked |
| 03:23 | wizzyrea_ | lol |
| 03:23 | darling | hey wizzyrea ! |
| 03:24 | er wizzyrea_ | |
| 03:24 | you wizzy's all look alike to me | |
| 03:24 | wizzyrea_ | hehehe |
| 03:26 | I'm going to have to get a bigger drive in this lappy if I'm going to run ubuntu on it. | |
| 03:26 | robin | ibot: osi model |
| 03:26 | ibot | robin: huh? |
| 03:26 | robin | ibot: osi model is shock, denial, guilt, anger, bargaining, hope, acceptance |
| 03:26 | ibot | OK, robin. |
| 03:27 | chris | heh |
| 03:27 | jcamins | chris: if it makes you feel any better, I'm using only FLOSS. |
| 03:28 | (other than Mac OSX, obviously) | |
| 03:28 | chris | :) |
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| 03:28 | chris | yeah its too late, youve already paid them :-) |
| 03:30 | robin | ibot: seven-layer burrito is physical, data link, network, transport, session, presentation, application |
| 03:30 | ibot | OK, robin. |
| 03:30 | robin | ibot: seven stages of grief are lettuce, tomatoes, rice, beans, sour cream, cheese, guacamole |
| 03:30 | ibot | OK, robin. |
| 03:31 | * robin | enjoys infobots |
| 03:33 | robin | ibot: damn you |
| 03:33 | ibot | robin: sorry... |
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| 03:33 | robin | ibot: damn you is <reply>\You fool! You've doomed us all! |
| 03:33 | ibot | OK, robin. |
| 03:33 | robin | ibot: literal damn you |
| 03:33 | ibot | robin: sorry... |
| 03:33 | robin | ibot: damn you |
| 03:33 | ibot | robin: huh? |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea_ | ibot: damn you |
| 03:33 | ibot | wizzyrea_: sorry... |
| 03:33 | robin | hrm |
| 03:33 | wizzyrea_ | aw |
| 03:33 | robin | ibot: damn you is <reply>You fool! You've doomed us all! |
| 03:33 | ibot | i already had it that way, robin. |
| 03:33 | robin | O_o |
| 03:33 | jcamins | ibot: damn you <reply>You fool! You've doomed us all! |
| 03:33 | ibot | jcamins: i'm not following you... |
| 03:33 | jcamins | damn you? |
| 03:33 | ibot | You fool! You've doomed us all! |
| 03:34 | wizzyrea_ | LOL |
| 03:34 | robin | how odd |
| 03:34 | jcamins | Eventually we work it out. |
| 03:34 | robin | ibot doesn't quite use the rules I'm familiar with it seems' |
| 03:34 | ibot | robin: sorry... |
| 03:34 | robin | ibot: so you should be |
| 03:34 | ibot | robin: what? |
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| 03:34 | robin | ibot: so you should be is <reply>may I have a cookie now please? |
| 03:34 | ibot | i don't know, robin |
| 03:34 | robin | ibot: so you should be is <reply>may I have a cookie now please |
| 03:34 | ibot | robin: i haven't a clue |
| 03:34 | robin | ibot: so \you should be is <reply>may I have a cookie now please? |
| 03:34 | ibot | robin: bugger all, i dunno |
| 03:34 | robin | ibot: so \you should be is <reply>may I have a cookie now please |
| 03:34 | ibot | robin: no idea |
| 03:35 | robin | ibot: so \you should be is <reply>may \I have a cookie now please |
| 03:35 | ibot | robin: i haven't a clue |
| 03:35 | robin | hrm |
| 03:35 | jcamins | ibot: so you should be <reply>may I have a cookie now please? |
| 03:35 | ibot | i don't know, jcamins |
| 03:35 | jcamins | so you should be? |
| 03:35 | Hm. | |
| 03:35 | robin | Not sure what all the escape words are. |
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| 03:36 | wizzyrea_ | whisper |
| 03:36 | whisper? | |
| 03:36 | ibot | whisper is <repy> Speak up, we can't hear you! |
| 03:36 | robin | see, it should have said something then, as I understand it. |
| 03:36 | wizzyrea_ | whisper |
| 03:36 | robin | maybe it requires the question mark |
| 03:36 | wizzyrea_ | whisper? |
| 03:36 | ibot | Speak up, we can't hear you! |
| 03:37 | robin | the info bot I know (which is somewhat hacked up) doesn't need it. |
| 03:37 | jcamins | postfix documentation |
| 03:37 | postfix documentation? | |
| 03:37 | postfix instructions? | |
| 03:37 | wizzyrea_ | postfix? |
| 03:37 | ibot | postfix is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix |
| 03:38 | jcamins | wizzyrea_: thanks. |
| 03:38 | postfix | |
| 03:38 | Yeah, definitely requires the question mark. | |
| 03:38 | wizzyrea_ | ubuntu? |
| 03:38 | oh don't tell me we don't have an entry for ubuntu... | |
| 03:38 | debian/ | |
| 03:38 | ? | |
| 03:38 | debian? | |
| 03:38 | oi vey | |
| 03:40 | i'm running around WoW picking up the new flight points. Because there's nothing to *do* | |
| 03:40 | chris | this button? |
| 03:40 | ibot | dont push it, it's the history eraser button you fool! |
| 03:40 | * wizzyrea_ | pushes the button |
| 03:40 | jcamins | wizzyrea_: what? |
| 03:41 | wizzyrea_ | there's nothing to *do* in World of Warcraft right now |
| 03:41 | it's terribly boring | |
| 03:41 | 2 days till the expansion | |
| 03:42 | jcamins | Where would I find a CC-licensed picture of a binder's error? |
| 03:42 | wizzyrea_ | flickr? |
| 03:43 | jcamins | Yeah, that's where I'm looking now. |
| 03:43 | Kind of hard to search for, though. | |
| 03:43 | wizzyrea_ | there's a search specifically for CC licensing, unless you mean the *content* is hard to search for, not the license |
| 03:44 | jcamins | The content's hard to search for. |
| 03:44 | wizzyrea_ | ah yea |
| 03:44 | jcamins | I *love* the CC search. |
| 03:44 | wizzyrea_ | I bet that is not something that people would generally think of taking CC pics of |
| 03:44 | robin | I dunno. I just have it set to CC all my photos by default. Others probably do the same. |
| 03:44 | chris | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jjN-H62U64 |
| 03:47 | wizzyrea_ | oh, the spud is up |
| 03:47 | lol what now. | |
| 03:52 | robin | http://acidcycles.wordpress.co[…]-optimizing-perl/ |
| 04:05 | wizzyrea_ | well, good night, folks: kiddo wants to snuggle :) |
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| 04:23 | kmkale | good morning |
| 04:30 | jcamins | Morning? |
| 04:30 | Ah! | |
| 04:30 | That means it's really late here! | |
| 04:30 | robin | jcamins: naw, it's only 17:30 |
| 04:31 | jcamins | Funny, it feels like 23:32 to me. |
| 04:31 | Good night, #koha | |
| 04:31 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 04:33 | braedon|h | @wunder auckland |
| 04:33 | munin | braedon|h: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 21.0�C (5:00 PM NZDT on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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| 05:40 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:41 | brendan_l | morning cait |
| 05:41 | cait | hi brendan |
| 05:41 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 05:41 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.3�C (6:40 AM CET on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -0.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.57 in 1001.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:42 | robin | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 05:42 | munin | robin: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0�C (6:00 PM NZDT on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
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| 05:49 | * cait | waves to robin |
| 05:49 | robin | hi there |
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| 06:08 | * cait | forgot her mysql password - again |
| 06:13 | cait | hm found it |
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| 06:31 | robin | I always stick them in a text file somewhere. |
| 06:33 | cait | hehe |
| 06:34 | @later tell owen patch pushed, rebased, small correction added - are we ready for qa? (bug 5422) | |
| 06:34 | munin | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:34 | cait | robin: I would probably loose the text file or accidently publish it on the internet |
| 06:34 | robin | heh |
| 06:38 | man, I wrote my csv2marc script to handle comma and tab separated files, I mean, what else are you going to get sent? Today I get a '~'-separated file. | |
| 06:38 | cait | one of my coworkers uses %%% |
| 06:38 | robin | erk, seriously? My script will never handle that - it requires it to be a single character. |
| 06:38 | kmkale | I use | |
| 06:38 | cait | trying to choose something that will not show up in the data (and of course it did) |
| 06:38 | robin | I like tabs. |
| 06:39 | cait | we are shocking robin :) |
| 06:39 | kmkale | :) |
| 06:39 | robin | If things are properly quoted and escaped, it won't be a problem. Of course, something things (/me glares at liberty) can't export things correctly quoted and escaped. |
| 06:40 | cait | kmkale: sorry, had no time to test your patch :( but it's still on my to do list |
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| 06:40 | * cait | hands robin a cookie |
| 06:40 | robin | :D |
| 06:41 | kmkale | Cool cait. I did my first ever sign off with fredericd's guidance :) |
| 06:42 | cait | cool :) |
| 06:42 | kmkale | cait: what about your patch needing sign off I tried on sat? is it reworked yet? |
| 06:42 | cait | I rebased it 5 minutes ago :) |
| 06:43 | kmkale | cool |
| 06:43 | send it. It will give me some practice :) | |
| 06:43 | cait | if you give me your email I will send it to you directly? |
| 06:43 | kmkale | kmkalegmail.com |
| 06:43 | cait | ok :) |
| 06:45 | ok, sent :) | |
| 06:45 | I will add it to the bug too | |
| 06:46 | kmkale | yup. Will try this afternoon and reply. |
| 06:47 | cait | thx! |
| 06:55 | chris | cait: chris has done some more work, hasnt fixed the umlauts or the sysprefs but he thinks he has fixed the other things like the about page, if you get a chance to look |
| 06:55 | cait | morning chris |
| 06:56 | ok, will try to take a look at it later :) | |
| 06:56 | kmkale | hi chris :) |
| 06:56 | cait | the umlauts are a bigger problem? |
| 06:57 | chris | no, we just havent looked at that one yet |
| 06:57 | cait | ok |
| 06:57 | hm, I did it wrong - have checked out my local branch for 3.2.x and wanted to update it, but now I have merge conflicts... | |
| 07:03 | ok, figured it out | |
| 07:10 | kmkale | I usually throw expletives at git till it figures it out ;) |
| 07:12 | cait | hehe |
| 07:12 | I ignored it and started a new branch | |
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| 07:14 | cait | chris: working on bug 5423 again - is it ok to not send a separate patch for 3.2.x if the only thing that needs change is the version numbers? |
| 07:14 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5423 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Deleted Patrons are no longer saved in table deletedborrowers |
| 07:18 | cait | time to get some breakfast |
| 07:19 | chris | no just note, "Should apply to 3.2 as well" |
| 07:20 | to make it easy for chris_n | |
| 07:23 | cait | o |
| 07:23 | k | |
| 07:28 | kmkale: I sent you a slightly reformatted patch, adding the note for chris_n and changing version numbers | |
| 07:28 | kmkale | ok cait |
| 07:36 | cait | thx again :) |
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| 07:44 | cait | ok, time to leave - back in a few minutes |
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| 08:18 | kf | snow + heavy rain = too much water :( |
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| 08:19 | kf | guten morgen ivanc |
| 08:20 | ivanc | guten morgen kf |
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| 08:21 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:21 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0�C (9:00 AM CET on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000 hPa (Falling). |
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| 08:51 | chris | What's this button? |
| 08:51 | ibot | dont push it, it's the history eraser button you fool! |
| 08:52 | kf | poor ibot |
| 08:52 | ibot botsnack cookie | |
| 08:52 | ibot | thanks kf :) |
| 08:52 | kf | chris? |
| 08:52 | ibot | it has been said that chris is awesome |
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| 08:53 | kf | fredericd: around? |
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| 08:57 | kf | hi hdl |
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| 09:16 | magnus | kia ora, #koha |
| 09:17 | robin | ka kite, magnus |
| 09:17 | kf | ata marie magnus |
| 09:18 | magnus | robin: translation? |
| 09:18 | hiya kf | |
| 09:18 | robin | goodbye :) I'm just about to leave. |
| 09:18 | bye kf, and others too :) | |
| 09:19 | kf | bye robin :) |
| 09:23 | magnus | ah, bye robin |
| 09:28 | kf | oh my |
| 09:28 | every time I start to work on a bug I find other things that need to be fixed | |
| 09:28 | hmpf. | |
| 09:29 | magnus | well, it's good that they are found! |
| 09:30 | kf | hmpf |
| 09:37 | fredericd: I talked to chris_n - he was positive about inlcuding updated po files in the 3.2.x versions | |
| 09:37 | fredericd | kf: So you see that new strings are missing on Pootle. |
| 09:37 | kf | I think what needs to be done is update the po files |
| 09:38 | when I tested the bug I got them into the po files with a normal perl translate update de-DE | |
| 09:38 | fredericd | 'new strings' mean strings which entered Koha code recently. But how recently? |
| 09:38 | kf | that's how I confirmed that the patch worked correctly |
| 09:38 | after 3.2 | |
| 09:38 | fredericd | kf: yes |
| 09:38 | kf | but I am not sure when the po files were last updated, perhaps we were missing some things for 3.2 too |
| 09:38 | fredericd | chris: When .po files you send me were updated for the last time? |
| 09:39 | kf | fredericd: do you see a problem with updating them to the current 3.2.1? |
| 09:40 | I think zeno posted a nice timeline we could use | |
| 09:40 | fredericd | kf: We have to define a workflow and be sure it's ok with 3.2 RM |
| 09:40 | kf | I think at the moment there is no project for 3.4 |
| 09:40 | and chris_n was ok with what zeno posted | |
| 09:42 | not saying we shouldn't talk to him too | |
| 09:43 | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ovember/date.html | |
| 09:43 | there are the mails about a timetable for translators | |
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| 10:18 | fredericd | kf: send a email to translatore list. Thanks for your help. |
| 10:19 | kf | fredericd: ? |
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| 10:19 | kmkale | fredericd: around? |
| 10:20 | kf | fredericd: ah, now I see it. sorry. have to deal with some problems here right now (not translation related) |
| 10:21 | fredericd | kmkale: yes |
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| 11:06 | slef | 14:58:43 <kf> slef is not listening it seems... so I will keep practice for now |
| 11:07 | slef is always listening. I just wasn't very well :-) | |
| 11:09 | braedon|h | SLEF HEARS ALL |
| 11:10 | slef | Now if only I knew all, too, that might be useful. |
| 11:11 | braedon|h | well, its a start |
| 11:12 | s/its/it's/ | |
| 11:16 | * kf | hides |
| 11:19 | braedon|h | none can hide from the great listening power of slef! |
| 11:20 | slef | oh if only |
| 11:28 | magnus is now known as magnus_a | |
| 11:29 | * kf | waves to slef from her hiding place |
| 11:43 | slef | and another ex-LibLime leaves PTFS... John Rose to III says librarytechnology.org |
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| 11:47 | kf | slef: have you seen the nekls mail on the mailing list? |
| 11:48 | slef | kf: no. I might not even open that mailbox until after lunch :-( Got Message-Id: or URL if you'd like me to look? |
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| 11:49 | kf | I wil copy you the url - just thought it might be interesting |
| 11:50 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ember/026526.html | |
| 11:50 | * kf | hands slef a yummy cookie without any chocolate |
| 11:50 | kf | to make this monday a bit easier |
| 11:52 | slef | interesting, but bah, .doc |
| 11:52 | kf | not my fault ;) |
| 11:52 | slef | Can we make wizzyrea his boss? |
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| 12:11 | kf | hi nengard |
| 12:11 | nengard | morning :) |
| 12:23 | kf | can someone check if his borrowers table is missing the privacy column? I think it shoudl always be there and missing in deletedborrowers - but we had a strange problem right now wile testing it |
| 12:23 | his or her borrowers table :) | |
| 12:24 | slef | I'll look on a fairly recent site. |
| 12:24 | nengard | kf, privacy was removed for 3.2 release |
| 12:24 | kf | where? |
| 12:24 | nengard | cause it wasn't fully developed |
| 12:24 | kf | the sys pref yes |
| 12:25 | nengard | the sys pref was removed too |
| 12:25 | kf | but I don't think the colunn was removed |
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| 12:25 | nengard | oh |
| 12:25 | okay | |
| 12:25 | kf | nengard: sorry, this day is killing me |
| 12:25 | monday-- | |
| 12:25 | nengard | no problem at all |
| 12:25 | slef | kf: I don't see it in borrowers... oh, you want a 3.2 copy? |
| 12:25 | kf | I looked at kohastructure.sql - privacy is in borrowers but not in deletedborrowers |
| 12:26 | slef | it'll take me longer to find it :-/ |
| 12:26 | kf | and this is the problem I tried to fix, because it breaks borrower deletion |
| 12:26 | slef | kf: does updatedatabase* mention it at all? |
| 12:26 | kf | slef: yes, http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82450b831;hb=HEAD |
| 12:26 | 2791 $DBversion = "3.01.00.072"; | |
| 12:26 | but still only borrowers | |
| 12:27 | kmkale tried to sign-off on my bug - but in his database privacy was missing from borrowers | |
| 12:27 | which really confused me | |
| 12:31 | hm, looks like the database had some issues | |
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| 13:22 | jwagner | kf, online? |
| 13:22 | kf | here |
| 13:23 | hi jwagner | |
| 13:23 | jwagner | I just got a patches list email for your kits patch, but the mail's datestamp was Wed 9/15/2010 7:22 PM -- is your computer's date off? |
| 13:23 | (and good morning) | |
| 13:24 | kf | yes it is |
| 13:24 | virtual box... *sighs* | |
| 13:24 | ALWAYS forget resetting it | |
| 13:25 | jwagner | OK, just wondered if I was hallucinating or time-traveling this morning :-) |
| 13:25 | kf | no, it's me having a real bad monday |
| 13:25 | * jwagner | sends sympathy and cookies |
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| 13:28 | chris_n | slef? |
| 13:28 | ibot | slef is an avid cyclist |
| 13:29 | kf | hi chris_n |
| 13:29 | chris_n? | |
| 13:29 | ibot | chris_n is, like, wright :-[ |
| 13:29 | * chris_n | thought slef is always listening |
| 13:29 | chris_n | heya kf |
| 13:34 | kf | chris_n: I am wondering what has to be done to add a new sys pref? |
| 13:35 | chris_n | kf: it has to be added to the yaml files and to the database (ie. mandatory sysprefs file and updatedatabase.pl) |
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| 13:35 | kf | ok |
| 13:35 | so you need to add it to all languages, right? | |
| 13:35 | chris_n | correct |
| 13:35 | owen | Hi #koha |
| 13:36 | chris_n | its a bit of a chore at the moment imho |
| 13:36 | g'morning owen | |
| 13:36 | kf | hi owen |
| 13:36 | yeah - and I can imagine people will miss one of the many places | |
| 13:37 | chris_n | it would be cool to have a script one could run on the yaml files and check/update/add the sysprefs to the db |
| 13:37 | kf | hm. de-DE 276 lines, en 277 |
| 13:38 | we don't really need the translated sys pref file any longer - can it always use en? | |
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| 13:40 | kf | chris_n: there are already 2 patches missing as it seems |
| 13:40 | :( | |
| 13:41 | chris_n | ? |
| 13:41 | kf | de-DE is missing homeorholdingbranchreturn |
| 13:42 | chris_n | kf: there are some fields which are not needed any longer due to the yaml |
| 13:42 | ahh | |
| 13:42 | kf | when you set up your database using sample sys prefs in German, it will miss a sys pref - I have not checked the other files |
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| 13:43 | kf | that's not good :( |
| 13:43 | chris_n | yup, it is a process fraught with potential problems |
| 13:43 | it requires a good understanding of how the (rather convoluted) system preference system works | |
| 13:44 | kf | pl-PL has only 262 lines |
| 13:44 | chris_n: this problem appears in a lot of places - I fixed a lot of things for 3.2 - making the web installers work again for some languages | |
| 13:44 | but there are still some problems remaining | |
| 13:44 | another problem is the permissions table | |
| 13:44 | the description there is really used by koha, so it makes sense to translate it | |
| 13:45 | but people forget to add to all language files | |
| 13:45 | just telling you, so you can keep an eye on it ;) | |
| 13:45 | chris_n | right |
| 13:45 | those things should be caught by good QA | |
| 13:45 | kf | yeah, but we are only human |
| 13:45 | I will open a bug | |
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| 13:46 | chris_n | also a right-up on the wiki would probably help |
| 13:47 | kf | which page are you thinking? |
| 13:52 | fredericd | kf: for permissions I wrote a test: xt/permissions.t |
| 13:52 | kf | fredericd++ |
| 13:52 | can something similar be done to sys prefs? | |
| 13:53 | or perhaps we should always use en, not that the description is translatable via the yaml files | |
| 13:53 | could this be done? | |
| 13:53 | fredericd | this is already there for DB syspref: xt/syspref.t |
| 13:54 | kf | ah |
| 13:54 | why does it not kick in for Homeorholdingbranchreturn? | |
| 13:54 | because hudson is installed with en only? | |
| 13:55 | fredericd | but my opinion is that we should focus on templates syspref and find a way to generate DB syspref from them. |
| 13:55 | If I run prove -v xt/syspref.t I capture missing Homeorholdingbranchreturn for DE | |
| 13:56 | Maybe Hudson doesn't run xt tests but just 't' | |
| 13:56 | (a supposition) | |
| 13:56 | kf | fredericd: I think this is possible |
| 13:56 | I will make a note to ask chris later | |
| 13:57 | still filing a bug - so we have a place to document things | |
| 13:58 | hm even 2 missing | |
| 13:58 | * kf | wonders about the other |
| 13:59 | kf | but it does not find changed sys prefs |
| 13:59 | like the changed default value for tagsmoderation | |
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| 14:09 | fredericd | kf: The test just do a hash of syspref names and compares to 'en' hash each other language. It could be possible to compare also default value... |
| 14:10 | When you add to that the templating syspref, you can imagine the complexity... | |
| 14:11 | kf | you mean the .pref files? |
| 14:11 | yeah, I know it's complicated - I only think we need to be mroe careful | |
| 14:11 | monday-- | |
| 14:11 | or find a better way doing it | |
| 14:12 | using the translation tools for translation instead of sql files for example | |
| 14:13 | nengard | hey all - didn't someone write a snippet of code to hide the login box from the opac? |
| 14:13 | was that on owen's blog maybe ... | |
| 14:13 | kf | people may want to have their own sample borrowers, but system parameters and permissions are only copied for translation |
| 14:14 | owen | nengard: You can do it in the CSS |
| 14:14 | kf | nengard: there is a sys pref too I think |
| 14:14 | borrowerlogin? | |
| 14:14 | nengard | kf i want them to be able to login - i just don't want that box to show |
| 14:14 | owen, what am i looking for in the css? | |
| 14:14 | and was it on your blog? | |
| 14:14 | owen | #login |
| 14:14 | kf | opacuserlogin |
| 14:14 | ah ok :) | |
| 14:14 | owen | I don't think I wrote about that specifically |
| 14:14 | jwagner | This hides the login box on the main page: $('#login').hide(); |
| 14:14 | kf | #login {display:none;} |
| 14:15 | nengard | you did : #login { display: none; } http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=160 |
| 14:15 | kf | using css is a bit better than jquery - will work even if people have javascript off |
| 14:15 | owen | kf++ |
| 14:16 | kf | it's easy if someone tells you the id ;) owen++ |
| 14:18 | fredericd | Am I alone? For me Holds doesn't work on 3.2... |
| 14:19 | nengard | fredericd how so? |
| 14:19 | fredericd | C4::Reserves::CanBookBeReserved function build insane MySQL query to issuingrules table |
| 14:19 | And so, there isn't ever any result... | |
| 14:20 | Example of wrong SQL WHERE clause: WHERE categorycode IN ('SI', '*') AND branchcode = '*' AND itemtype = '*' | |
| 14:22 | owen | kf, I'm looking at Bug 5467 |
| 14:22 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5467 trivial, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, LDR pos 6 o = Kit should not show as visual material |
| 14:22 | owen | Is there a reason why $leader6='o' and $leader6='p' are given the same icon? |
| 14:23 | Could we give $leader6='p' its own icon? | |
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| 14:25 | kf | owen: we could of course |
| 14:25 | I thought mixed materials and kit are similar enough to share one icon | |
| 14:25 | and in the process discovered that the icon for mixed materials was never there | |
| 14:25 | * owen | is looking up the LOC definition of kit |
| 14:25 | kf | today is really one of these days |
| 14:26 | fredericd: try adding a rule for default default default... | |
| 14:27 | * owen | finds that what his library has always classified as a kit sounds more like "mixed materials" |
| 14:28 | kf | hehe |
| 14:29 | magnus | oh no! |
| 14:30 | owen | We circulate these picture book + audio cassette sets, and we've always called them "kits" |
| 14:30 | schuster | There was talk at KohaCon some people during Hackfest were going to do some work on the MARC frameworks? Did that move forward? |
| 14:31 | owen - sorry... That's an soundcassette... | |
| 14:31 | :) | |
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| 14:31 | schuster | But you can call them whatever you want! |
| 14:32 | owen | "o (Kit) - entity is issued as a single unit; no type of material predominates" |
| 14:32 | But later "intended primarily for instructional purposes" | |
| 14:33 | Some of them have 000 6 i "Nonmusical sound recording" | |
| 14:33 | schuster | We have lots of Kits in education but a lot of them are going away due to the electronic and digital age thank goodness! |
| 14:34 | Depends on who cataloged the items and how "complete" and persnicketty they are about MARC... | |
| 14:38 | * owen | would be more interested in the solution if it didn't involve a mass update of MARC records in his catalog |
| 14:41 | nengard | webinar time - be back when it's done |
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| 14:46 | slef | chris_n: I am. It just takes me a while to reply :) |
| 14:49 | schuster | owen - is a rule follower I see... :) |
| 14:50 | kmkale | bye all good night |
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| 14:50 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
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| 14:50 | magnus | good day jcamins |
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| 14:57 | * magnus | goes outside to shovel some snow |
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| 14:57 | * owen | thinks that sounds better than a morning meeting |
| 15:01 | * kf | still waits for her shoes and socks to dry |
| 15:04 | kf | owen++ thx for signoff :) |
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| 15:30 | kf | owen: did you get my message? |
| 15:30 | owen | Yes |
| 15:31 | I think those changes are ready for another set of eyes | |
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| 15:36 | kf | ok, what do we do now? send a pull request to chris? |
| 15:36 | or put a sign-off on bugzilla? | |
| 15:37 | owen | I think send a pull request to the patches list? |
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| 15:42 | kf | ok, will do that later |
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| 16:10 | kf | robin: awake? |
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| 16:37 | magnus_a | kf: a little early for the nzlanders, perhaps? |
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| 16:40 | kf | yeah, think so |
| 16:40 | was working on bug 5466 | |
| 16:40 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5466 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, Allow currency to be set during order creation |
| 16:40 | kf | ah no, wrong number :) |
| 16:42 | bug 5173 | |
| 16:42 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5173 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Allow the discount to be editable |
| 16:42 | kf | this one |
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| 16:57 | kf | ok, time to go home - bye all! |
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| 17:59 | owen | What is the syntax for running build_holds_queue.pl from the command line? |
| 18:01 | jwagner | owen, I don't think it has any particular syntax, other than perl build_holds_queue.pl |
| 18:02 | owen | I was hoping I was just doing it wrong. I'm getting an error: Use of uninitialized value $pickup_branch in exists at build_holds_queue.pl line 267. |
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| 18:03 | jwagner | sounds like a bug, then.... |
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| 18:11 | sekjal | owen: looks like a data issue to me. would have to check how $pickup_branch is populated to be sure, though |
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| 18:14 | gregb | hi all |
| 18:14 | anyone on with wisdom re: unAPI links? | |
| 18:16 | or more generally, with regard to using Koha through an Apache proxy? | |
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| 18:19 | jcamins | gregb: I'm not sure what you're asking. |
| 18:20 | I don't know much about unAPI, but I do recall that there was an issue in older versions where the unAPI link was embedded twice, which broke some software that uses unAPI (like Zotero). | |
| 18:20 | gregb | My employer is going live next month on Liblime-hosted Harley and I am trying to set up an Apache proxy for same, but the absolute href links to unAPI are giving me grief. |
| 18:21 | My main question is whether these links need to use a fully qualified host name, or whether they might be regarded as bugs. | |
| 18:21 | jcamins | I don't know, and if it's Harley, there probably won't be anyone else here who does. |
| 18:22 | gregb | the same links are in mainstream Koha if I'm not mistaken |
| 18:23 | owen | Like this? <link rel="unapi-server" type="application/xml" title="unAPI" href="http://localhost:88/cgi-bin/koha/unapi" /> |
| 18:23 | gregb | yes those |
| 18:24 | I know I can probably work around them with some Rewrite directives on the proxy, but for simplicity I'd rather not if Koha (and/or Harley) could be modified to simply not do that =) | |
| 18:26 | owen | gregb: How are using unapi? |
| 18:27 | gregb | Honestly, I've no idea how it is used, just that its use of a fully qualified host name is not going to work in the simplest case for proxying. |
| 18:28 | What I want to avoid is rewriting the entire HTML throughput rather than just HTTP headers. | |
| 18:29 | owen | FWIW, removing the part of the template that echos the base URL doesn't break Zotero integration |
| 18:29 | gregb | So, if these were relative links they still "just work"? That is good to hear |
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| 18:43 | Augustan | Hello, anyone awake? |
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| 18:47 | jcamins | I guess he didn't care that much. |
| 18:54 | owen | sekjal: Re: build_holds_queue.pl, what kind of data problem do you think? |
| 18:54 | nengard | does the statistics table track cataloging stats too? or just circ? |
| 18:55 | owen | sekjal: My reserves table has valid data in branchcode |
| 18:55 | wizzyrea_ | owen: what problem are you having? |
| 18:55 | (you can give the short version, if that helps) | |
| 18:55 | owen | I'm getting an error when running build_holds_queue.pl: Use of uninitialized value $pickup_branch in exists at build_holds_queue.pl line 267. |
| 18:59 | sekjal | owen: your reserves.branchcode value should be what you need there |
| 18:59 | so, not sure why it's erring | |
| 19:00 | chris | That's a warning not an error |
| 19:00 | But the reason why its occuring is as sekjal said | |
| 19:01 | sekjal | owen: do you have any rows in reserves with a null biblionumber? (is that even possible?) |
| 19:01 | wizzyrea_ | Hm, what do you think, duplicate the 3.2.2 string freeze note from chris_n on the website? |
| 19:02 | chris | wizzyrea_: one vote from me |
| 19:03 | wizzyrea_ | well I think that's the kind of stuff we want on there, right? |
| 19:03 | chris | Yep |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea_ | alright. I'll add it and we can remove it if there's an uproar (though I doubt there will be) |
| 19:04 | chris | Its important info |
| 19:04 | chris_n | tnx wizzyrea |
| 19:04 | chris | Good for it to be widely seen |
| 19:05 | * chris_n | would have done that, but today has been one of "them" days |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea_ | no worries, I got your back. ;) |
| 19:06 | * owen | just heard the "hold found" audio cue and had no idea where it was coming from |
| 19:06 | chris | Heh |
| 19:12 | owen | sekjal: It looks like the warning comes from having a non-consecutive holds priority number (that should sound familiar) |
| 19:12 | I had a title with two holds: The first was number 1, the second was number 3 | |
| 19:12 | Changing the priority of the second to two resulted in no warnings | |
| 19:13 | sekjal | interesting... so for every priority value from min to max, there is an entry... |
| 19:13 | * sekjal | mumbles to himself for a bit |
| 19:14 | owen | I'm guessing build_holds_queue.pl checks through each hold from priority value min-to-max? |
| 19:16 | chris | Looks that way |
| 19:17 | Which is harmless and we should suppress the warn by fixing the call | |
| 19:18 | * owen | just wanted to test Bug 2808... |
| 19:18 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2808 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Hold queue not alphabetizing |
| 19:19 | chris | :) |
| 19:20 | Is it alphabetised now? | |
| 19:20 | owen | My original patch didn't cover the "holds over" tab so I'm doing more work on it |
| 19:21 | ...maybe because I didn't have any "holds over" at the time, I don't know. | |
| 19:23 | chris | Sounds plausible |
| 19:24 | fredericd | I need help with reservations |
| 19:25 | I do a reservation on an item which is checked out. | |
| 19:25 | I return this item. | |
| 19:25 | I fill the hold for this item for a patron | |
| 19:25 | A message is added to message_queue for this patron... | |
| 19:25 | BUT message_transport_type is print. I would like email. | |
| 19:26 | I see in Notice that I have 2 notices: HOLD and HOLD_PRINT. How can I select HOLD rather than HOLD_PRINT?? | |
| 19:26 | chris | I think its a preference |
| 19:26 | You set per borrower | |
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| 19:27 | chris | And they can choose on the opac too |
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| 19:27 | chris | I can't look now, but I think at the bottom of the moremember page ? |
| 19:28 | fredericd | chris: yes |
| 19:29 | chris | I think you can change it from print to email there? |
| 19:29 | If you want to do all borrowers might need to run some sql? | |
| 19:29 | fredericd | chris: yes |
| 19:30 | (I'm on another chan discuting Pootle stuff :-) | |
| 19:30 | chris | My work here is done, and just in time its my stop |
| 19:30 | Oh the suggestions are stored in the .po I think | |
| 19:31 | So they should have come across, but not sure about that | |
| 19:31 | If not no I don't think we can migrate them | |
| 19:31 | * chris | will brb |
| 19:32 | jwagner | fredericd, the HOLD_PRINT notice only comes into play if the patron does not have an email address and you're running the print notice script for creating hold print notices |
| 19:32 | See Bug 3482 | |
| 19:32 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3482 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Print overdue and hold notices for patrons without email addresses |
| 19:33 | owen | Why would a patch apply fine with "git apply" but fail with "Patch format detection failed" when I use "git am" ? |
| 19:35 | fredericd | jwagner: thanks. I think my patron has an email. I'm running process_messages_queue.pl and the queue has been populated by return screen |
| 19:35 | rhcl | RE: holds discussion above. I don't have a good context for the previous, but one thing we've noticed is that printing out the holds results in a separate page for each hold. |
| 19:36 | Would be better to keep one header and just list each hold as lines items. | |
| 19:36 | line items | |
| 19:40 | fredericd | I don't find where to select for a patron his prefered transport mode for notices, email or print |
| 19:42 | I've seen EnhancedMessagingPreferences syspref. But I don't think it's the solution | |
| 19:46 | chris | owen: if its not an email format then am wont be happy |
| 19:46 | * chris_n | accidentally attempts to do a thing as 'rot' rather than 'root' :-P |
| 19:48 | jwagner | fredericd, patrons can't select whether to get email or print (unless they just delete their email address). It's not configurable. The print notices for overdues and holds were meant as a fallback, so that usable text could be generated and printed if there wasn't an email address. |
| 19:48 | chris | not entirely true |
| 19:48 | you can choose to get issue slips emailed to you | |
| 19:49 | and it is only very recently that the patron has lost the ability to choose | |
| 19:50 | jwagner | chris, by issue slips, do you mean the checkout notice? That & the others (checkin, due) are handled differently. |
| 19:50 | chris | there was a preferredcontact column, where they could choose |
| 19:51 | preferredcont | |
| 19:51 | we should bring that back | |
| 19:52 | jwagner | I'm not remembering this at all. Where was it? Am I just having a senior moment? (Don't answer that last one....) |
| 19:52 | chris | in the borrowers table |
| 19:53 | by recently i mean either 3.0 or 3.2 | |
| 19:53 | it was definitely there in 2.2.9 | |
| 19:54 | owen | chris's Koha timescale gives him a different range for "recently" than most ;) |
| 19:54 | chris | :) |
| 19:57 | jwagner | That would be why I don't remember seeing it, then :-) |
| 19:57 | Yes, if all the notices and other contact stuff could obey a "preferred" flag, that would be great. | |
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| 20:01 | * owen | wonders what makes a hold qualify for the "holds over" tab anyway... |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea_ | a hold that's been on the shelf past it's expiration date |
| 20:03 | owen | wizzyrea_: Expiration date as defined where? |
| 20:04 | Oh I see it in the script, ReservesMaxPickUpDelay | |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea_ | right, after the item has sat on a shelf for X days, it expires, and goes to the Hold Over tab |
| 20:07 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5457: gather_print_notices.pl requires explicit stylesheet <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]890ca2706dc41e86c> |
| 20:07 | * owen | proposes changing that tab label from "XX Hold(s) over" to "XX Hold(s) expired" |
| 20:09 | sekjal | The "holds over" aren't actually expired, though, in the sense that they have (and have passed) their expiration date |
| 20:09 | if you run the cancel_expired_holds.pl job, for example, these items remain untouched | |
| 20:09 | err, not items, holds | |
| 20:10 | owen | sekjal: I agree it's a little ambiguous. Do you have any suggestions? |
| 20:10 | * owen | finds the "over" even more ambiguous |
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| 20:11 | sekjal | I was thinking of adding a flag to cancel_expired_holds that would allow the user to say whether 'holds over' should be cancelled or not |
| 20:11 | or at least give expirationdate = waitingdate + ReservesMaxPickUpDelay | |
| 20:12 | owen | "pickup date passed" ? |
| 20:12 | sekjal | "stale holds"? |
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| 20:13 | sekjal | "holds waiting too long" ? |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea_ | Still awaiting pickup |
| 20:13 | sekjal | "seriously, guys, pick up your holds, already!" ? |
| 20:13 | chris | heh |
| 20:15 | drulm | < Report from future > Koha 10.0 is at 80% of all ILS systems installed < / Report from future > |
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| 20:17 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5460: AutoEmailPrimaryAddress set to invalid value in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]63ac4ec27aceccb79> |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea_ | Give up, they're not coming |
| 20:17 | owen | Damn, I was about to ask him how the second tab on waitingreserves.pl was labeled in Koha 10.0. |
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| 20:18 | wizzyrea_ | hehehehe |
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| 20:18 | wizzyrea_ | it's called "fds aweever safwefer" |
| 20:18 | meaning: hold over | |
| 20:18 | ^ | |
| 20:18 | ^.^ | |
| 20:18 | owen | That's after Koha's official development language shifts to "gibberish?" |
| 20:19 | jcamins | fds aweever safwefer? |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea_ | exactly |
| 20:19 | * owen | will be okay with anything but lolcat |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea_ | I can has pickup? |
| 20:20 | oh anything *but* lolcat | |
| 20:22 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #186: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/186/ |
| 20:22 | Ian Walls: Bug 5457: gather_print_notices.pl requires explicit stylesheet | |
| 20:23 | Starting build 187 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 20:23 | sekjal | :) |
| 20:24 | rhcl | yea, apparently there's a default stylesheet, which I haven't identified yet, but there is the option to specify an alternate stylesheet |
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| 20:35 | * owen | needs to be better about recording in his commits what *hasn't* been done as much as what has |
| 20:35 | hdl | !meeting list |
| 20:35 | @list | |
| 20:35 | munin | hdl: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dict, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather |
| 20:36 | hdl | @help MeetBot |
| 20:36 | munin | hdl: Error: There is no command "meetbot". |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea_ | @list meetbot |
| 20:36 | munin | wizzyrea_: addchair, deletemeeting, listmeetings, pingall, recent, and savemeetings |
| 20:37 | hdl | thanks wizzyrea |
| 20:37 | * hdl | thought that there was much more commands. |
| 20:37 | hdl | @list Todo |
| 20:37 | munin | hdl: add, change, remove, search, setpriority, and todo |
| 20:38 | hdl | @list Utilities |
| 20:38 | munin | hdl: apply, echo, ignore, last, shuffle, and success |
| 20:38 | New commit(s) kohagit: Incremental fix for Bug 3285 - Location on Add Subscription should be pull down <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e14012933a67793e7> | |
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| 20:45 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #187: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/187/ |
| 20:45 | Ian Walls: Bug 5460: AutoEmailPrimaryAddress set to invalid value in sysprefs.sql | |
| 20:46 | Starting build 188 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 20:46 | chris_n | hdl: is the meeting for solr discussion on for tomorrow at 2100UTC? |
| 20:48 | chris | im on site with clients tomorrow, (and thursday and friday) |
| 20:48 | hdl | chris_n well, I am planning two : one for tommorrow 21 UTC and One on the 15th December at 11AM |
| 20:49 | congrats chris. | |
| 20:49 | chris | so wont be able to make the 21utc one |
| 20:49 | hdl | I will try and record the meeting with teh meeting Bot... I have to train with the bot |
| 20:50 | * owen | wonders if the bot could teach him kung fu |
| 20:50 | hdl | I am sending an email right now. will try and improve the sketchy schedule I have. |
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| 20:52 | hdl | main aim is to present our work, what we did and what we are to do, and try and gather good will and have feed back. |
| 20:53 | chris | yup, even tho i wont be there, i think everyone knows my position already so thats fine |
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| 20:57 | chris | (ill be in the middle of training and a go live) |
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| 21:08 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #188: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/188/ |
| 21:08 | Owen Leonard: Incremental fix for Bug 3285 - Location on Add Subscription should be pull down | |
| 21:16 | jcamins | Hm. I'll be missing the solr meeting tomorrow- I'll be presenting on cataloging private book collections. |
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| 21:43 | jcamins | Good nirhg, #koha |
| 21:43 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
| 21:43 | jcamins_a | Good night, even. |
| 21:44 | chris | cya jcamins_a |
| 21:44 | Brooke | night j |
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| 21:46 | cait | hi all :) |
| 21:47 | chris | hi cait |
| 21:47 | cait | hi chris :) |
| 21:48 | chris: I will send you a pull request for owen's and my work on a state in borrowers - ok? | |
| 21:48 | chris | yup, is it ready for being pushed up for awaiting_qa? |
| 21:49 | cait | we think so :) |
| 21:49 | chris | cool |
| 21:49 | cait | doesn't mean we have not missed something - but more eyes are good |
| 21:49 | chris | yup |
| 21:49 | Brooke | hi Cait. |
| 21:49 | cait | hi Brooke :) |
| 21:50 | chris: hm, pull request - just send you a mail with the link? | |
| 21:50 | I have done it once but not sure hwat I put in the mail | |
| 21:50 | chris | yup |
| 21:51 | Brooke | @quote 102 |
| 21:51 | munin | Brooke: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "102" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin. |
| 21:51 | hdl | chris : I hope your go live will be all right. |
| 21:51 | Brooke | same |
| 21:51 | chris | thanks hdl |
| 21:53 | cait | oh go live? |
| 21:53 | chris | on friday |
| 21:53 | training tomorrow and thursday | |
| 21:55 | cait | :) |
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| 22:02 | cait | chris: sending request again... web mail created a html mail :( |
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| 22:03 | chris | eewww |
| 22:03 | cool thanks | |
| 22:04 | cait | don't ask about the 2nd mail... the 3rd is the right one |
| 22:07 | chris | heh |
| 22:19 | robin | cait: 5am? you must be mad :) |
| 22:19 | cait | hm? |
| 22:19 | robin | you were asking if I was awake at 5am |
| 22:19 | cait | oh |
| 22:19 | yeah... not everybody is as crazy as me | |
| 22:19 | brendan | the rest of us where robin ;) |
| 22:20 | cait | I updated your bug ;) |
| 22:20 | robin | brendan: it's your own fault for being foreigners in strange time zones :) |
| 22:20 | cait: yeah, saw that. Looks good. | |
| 22:20 | Brooke | pfft, 5 am is sleepin' in for me, laddy |
| 22:20 | as I said to another kiwi, someone has to sing in the dawn in that lazy country of yours ;) | |
| 22:21 | cait | what about the missing update script? (not sure how to do that and if you already have it somewhere) |
| 22:21 | robin | that what we have birds for :) |
| 22:21 | I didn't see that bit...what do you mean? | |
| 22:21 | Brooke | faw, even yer birds are lazy ;P |
| 22:21 | cait | robin: for older orders the discount value is not populated |
| 22:22 | robin | that was by design, I think. |
| 22:22 | We didn't want to change what people already had set up. | |
| 22:22 | cait | hm no |
| 22:23 | or... hm. | |
| 22:23 | but at the moment the field is empty - so there is no value at all when you open the order | |
| 22:23 | that doesn't seem right to me | |
| 22:23 | or? | |
| 22:23 | it's to late to think | |
| 22:23 | robin | It's been a while, I can't remember. But, didn't it add a message saying that if it's empty it'll use the default? |
| 22:24 | oh | |
| 22:24 | rather than zero | |
| 22:24 | I forget | |
| 22:24 | it's too early to think. | |
| 22:24 | cait | no, that was about tax |
| 22:24 | different bug | |
| 22:24 | robin | ahh |
| 22:24 | cait | hehe |
| 22:24 | ok, let's restart | |
| 22:24 | I am talking about 5173 | |
| 22:24 | but 5173 | |
| 22:24 | grrr | |
| 22:24 | bug 5173 | |
| 22:24 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5173 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, Allow the discount to be editable |
| 22:24 | cait | if you open an old order now - the field is empty |
| 22:25 | can do more testing at work tomorrow - but it didn't look right to me or it could be better | |
| 22:26 | robin | looking at it, trying to remember the details... |
| 22:27 | cait | chris: git question: what is the easiest way to update my branch for the new templates? |
| 22:27 | chris | which branch? |
| 22:27 | cait | template-test |
| 22:27 | you wanted me to look at it :) | |
| 22:27 | chris | git fetch catalyst |
| 22:27 | git rebase catalyst/template-test | |
| 22:27 | cait | ah with rebase |
| 22:27 | * chris_n | feels a bit "pushy" :-) |
| 22:28 | chris | id do that, to keep any local changes at the top |
| 22:28 | cait | I made the error to try a git pull earlier... which ended up in a lot of merge conflicts :) |
| 22:28 | chris_n: pushy? | |
| 22:28 | chris_n | git pushy |
| 22:28 | cait | robin: thx :) I will try to find out if it does the calculations right without populating it tomorrow |
| 22:28 | robin | ok :) |
| 22:28 | cait | robin: but you can still look at it and try to remember ;) |
| 22:29 | * cait | hands robin some coffee |
| 22:29 | robin | I _think_ it was the case that if it was blank, it will use the default, which is possibly correct |
| 22:29 | cait | chris_n: make chris push some of my patches ;) |
| 22:29 | robin | a better solution would be to put the default in there. |
| 22:29 | * robin | doesn't drink coffee |
| 22:29 | cait | green tea? |
| 22:29 | robin | nope |
| 22:29 | cait | hot chocolate? |
| 22:29 | chris | im unlikely to be pushing anything until the weekend |
| 22:29 | * chris_n | just finished a cup of green tea |
| 22:29 | cait | no wonder you feel pushy :) |
| 22:30 | robin | yep, but that's not exactly a wakeup drink :) |
| 22:30 | chris_n | cait: I was just pushing what chris pushed a bit earlier |
| 22:30 | green tea + honey = good | |
| 22:30 | * cait | had wine tonight... |
| 22:31 | hudsonbot | Starting build 54 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:31 | robin | wine is not usually the best for programming :) |
| 22:31 | well, depends I guess... | |
| 22:31 | cait: actually, I noticed an error in that patch | |
| 22:32 | chris_n | hehe |
| 22:32 | cait | robin: ok - what's the problem? |
| 22:32 | robin | when creating the table it makes the default '0', when updating it makes it null |
| 22:32 | the null is correct I think. | |
| 22:32 | cait | hm ok? |
| 22:33 | yeah, 0 does not seem right | |
| 22:33 | robin | this won't be related to what you're seeing though. |
| 22:33 | cait | no, but still good to know - I can fix that |
| 22:33 | if I remember tomorrow | |
| 22:33 | robin | IRC logs are your friend :) |
| 22:33 | cait | Can't locate object method "new" via package "HTML::Template::Pro" (perhaps you forgot to load "HTML::Template::Pro"?) at InstallAuth.pm line 116 |
| 22:34 | robin | that's not my fault :) |
| 22:34 | cait | strange, I thought I installed that when I tested it the last time |
| 22:34 | no | |
| 22:34 | I installed libtemplate-perl last time - what does it want now? | |
| 22:34 | chris | html::template::pro |
| 22:34 | the old template system | |
| 22:35 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Incremental fix for Bug 3285 - Location on Add Subscription should be pull down <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]71a7585efeb2ceb02> / Bug 5460: AutoEmailPrimaryAddress set to invalid value in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5f4779d0897cd5704> / Bug 5457: gather_print_notices.pl requires explicit style |
| 22:35 | cait | chris: should I not have that? |
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| 22:36 | chris | yeah you should have that already, or old koha wouldnt work |
| 22:36 | cait | strange |
| 22:37 | it tells me libhtml-template-pro-perl is already the newest version | |
| 22:38 | robin: will update the bug once I fixed it and check the calculations - but at the moment I think populating the table would be good | |
| 22:40 | chris: not sure what to do now - could try the cpan module? | |
| 22:42 | chris_n | cait: you are right, there are many mandatory sysprefs missing from the various translations |
| 22:42 | cait | yeah :( |
| 22:42 | German is very complete - but others don't look good | |
| 22:42 | robin | cait: OK |
| 22:43 | chris_n | so what exactly does "# Warning: Some of those sysprefs may rather have to be added to English sysprefs" mean? |
| 22:43 | don't sysprefs need to be added to every translation? | |
| 22:43 | cait | at the moment I think they have to |
| 22:43 | because the web installer will take all files from your mandatory folder | |
| 22:43 | from the language you chose at the beginning | |
| 22:46 | chris_n: perhaps some translations have too many sys prefs? | |
| 22:46 | old sys prefs missing in en? | |
| 22:46 | chris_n | so does xt/syspref.t use en as the comparison? |
| 22:49 | looks like it does | |
| 22:50 | cait | can we make hudson run the xt tests too? |
| 22:52 | chris | it does |
| 22:52 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #54: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/54/ |
| 22:52 | * Ian Walls: Bug 5457: gather_print_notices.pl requires explicit stylesheet | |
| 22:52 | * Ian Walls: Bug 5460: AutoEmailPrimaryAddress set to invalid value in sysprefs.sql | |
| 22:52 | * Owen Leonard: Incremental fix for Bug 3285 - Location on Add Subscription should be pull down | |
| 22:53 | chris | http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]alid_templates_t/ |
| 22:53 | cait | chris: I was looking for xt/syspref.t |
| 22:54 | chris | it runs everything in the xt dir |
| 22:54 | ill manually add that one as well tho | |
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| 22:55 | chris | what is xt/check_sysprefs.t |
| 22:56 | if someone could check that and remove if its no longer used | |
| 22:56 | that will save confusion | |
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| 22:56 | chris | !hudson build koha_master now |
| 22:56 | hudsonbot | chris: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 22:56 | Starting build 189 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 22:57 | chris | !hudson build koha_3.2.x now |
| 22:57 | hudsonbot | chris: job koha_3.2.x build scheduled now |
| 22:57 | Starting build 55 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 22:58 | cait | chris: not sure what it does, fails when I try to run it |
| 22:59 | chris | ah checks for missing sysprefs in the database |
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| 23:07 | cait | good night all! |
| 23:08 | chris | night cait |
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| 23:11 | chris_n | chris: it's an important test I think |
| 23:11 | many sysprefs are missing from several other languages | |
| 23:11 | chris | which one syspref.t |
| 23:11 | chris_n | yup |
| 23:11 | chris | or check_sysprefs.t |
| 23:11 | because there are 2 | |
| 23:11 | and i want to know which one is the real one | |
| 23:11 | chris_n | ahh |
| 23:12 | syspref.t is what fails here | |
| 23:12 | chris | right, switched hudson to run that |
| 23:13 | chris_n | sadly the history appears truncated for both of those files |
| 23:15 | @wunder 28334 | |
| 23:15 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is -0.4�C (6:15 PM EST on December 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -20.0�C. Windchill: 0.0�C. Pressure: 29.50 in 998.9 hPa (Steady). |
| 23:19 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #189: FAILURE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/189/ |
| 23:21 | chris | gah typo |
| 23:23 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #55: UNSTABLE in 26 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/55/ |
| 23:24 | Starting build 190 for job Koha_Master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #188 2 hr 38 min ago) | |
| 23:24 | chris | chris_n: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]Build/testReport/ |
| 23:47 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #190: UNSTABLE in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/190/ |
| 23:49 | chris_n | just as i figured |
| 23:50 | well tests++ | |
| 23:51 | * chris_n | heads off to do a little astrophotography |
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