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00:04 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
00:04 | rhcl is now known as rhcl_away | |
00:06 | Brooke | I object, sir. Both Chris' sons are adorable, but Chris is afk. |
00:07 | @weather | |
00:07 | munin | Brooke: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city. |
00:07 | Brooke | @weather 22314 |
00:07 | munin | Brooke: The current temperature in Rosemont - Braddock Heights, Alexandria, Virginia is 8.8�C (7:00 PM EST on November 29, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Steady). Flash Flood Watch in effect from late Tuesday night through Wednesday afternoon... |
00:09 | Brooke | @weather Levin, NZ |
00:09 | munin | Brooke: The current temperature in LEVIN, Levin, New Zealand is 19.2�C (1:09 PM NZDT on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady). |
00:11 | chris | back |
00:12 | jcamins | chris: both your sons are adorable, but I only saw the quote from one of them. :) |
00:12 | chris | hehe |
00:12 | the one that can talk gives better quotes | |
00:13 | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]s-expensive-toys/ | |
00:13 | the younger one is fun too | |
00:13 | * Brooke | is in the Ata fan club. |
00:14 | Brooke | well as pleasant this company is |
00:14 | chris | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]rumsticks-thanks/ |
00:14 | Brooke | I need to get my cow arse to fencing. |
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00:16 | jcamins | He looks so surprised that you're photographing him with a drumstick in his mouth. |
00:16 | chris | heh |
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00:49 | wasabi | chris: i like your feet in the prev. pic :) |
01:01 | jransom | Chris (or anyone) : does Koha allow self issues |
01:02 | chris | yes |
01:02 | jransom | so in theory we could hook up an rfid antenna thingee as well? |
01:02 | instead of a barcode scanner | |
01:03 | chris | yes |
01:03 | jransom | (I don't know what my next question is :) |
01:03 | * druthb | googles for rfid antenna thingees. :) |
01:03 | chris | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x7851 |
01:04 | jransom | heres one: http://www.tech-logic.com/pdf/RFID%20Antennas.pdf |
01:04 | ok. | |
01:05 | so I thinkmy next question is about adding credit to your koha account / making payments using eftpos or creditcard or a cash and coin handler | |
01:05 | has that been done? | |
01:05 | chris | no |
01:06 | jransom | at the patron end .... wonders how hardthat bit could be |
01:06 | chris | not hard, just takes time |
01:07 | jransom | wonders much money in comparision to a proprietary purhase plus yearly licence fees |
01:08 | Chris: I think we should trail self issue | |
01:08 | chris | i cant imagine how it could possibly cost more |
01:08 | jransom | suck it and see |
01:09 | chris | specially if you already have a merchant account and everything you need, the coin feeder is a whole other thing of course |
01:09 | druthb | software-wise, it shouldn't be insanely hard...little bit of finicky programming, but nothing earth-shaking. Hardware might or might not be cheap. |
01:09 | chris | theres a bunch of hardwre involved there, that always makes it expensive |
01:11 | jransom | pondering .... |
01:11 | seems a bit bloody stupid to go and something propreotary when its half done already ..... | |
01:11 | (was going to try and stay from the bleeding edge of develeopment for awhile ....) | |
01:14 | Chris: I think we should give it crack aye :) | |
01:14 | chris | yup |
01:14 | jransom | MJ has done a bit of work on RFID i think |
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01:15 | * druthb | is having withdrawls from her latest addiction. It's chris's fault! |
01:15 | chris | well the rfid is all sep, what makes it hard is when the rfid system does retarded things that mean you need to decode the results |
01:16 | if it just gives you a barcode, just like a barcode scanner would, no extra work is needed | |
01:19 | jransom | (has a headache just thinking about it ) |
01:20 | chris | the important thing is beat your vendor into giving you something that doesnt involve putting an extra layer of software between the wand and the ils |
01:21 | jransom | yep - wanting to avoid that at all costs |
01:24 | druthb | chris, I keep looking at ESPN cricinfo, forgetting that the second Test doesn't start until Friday. :/ |
01:24 | chris | hehe yeah |
01:24 | druthb | Five days of watching that page--got to be a habit. |
01:24 | chris | is it friday aus time? |
01:24 | druthb | yah. |
01:25 | chris | well only thurs for you then |
01:25 | druthb | Thursday evening, then get up in the morning, just after "Stumps." |
01:25 | chris | http://www.espncricinfo.com/in[…]eries/464517.html |
01:25 | jransom | meeting a vendor on thursday |
01:25 | to realy get to the nitty gritty | |
01:25 | trying to think of all the questions | |
01:25 | chris | you can watch nz vs india tomorrow |
01:25 | druthb | oooo |
01:25 | chris | its a one dayer |
01:33 | good thing with cricket is becasue its played all over the world, there is almost always a game on somewhere :) | |
01:34 | druthb | It's theoretically played in the US, but our team, like our football team, stinks, compared to other countries. (And US Cricket only has one American on it.... :/ ) |
01:34 | chris | yup |
01:35 | robin | chris: did you see that there was a story in today's Stuff about @TheAshes? |
01:35 | chris | hehe sweet |
01:35 | ill tweet her that | |
01:36 | robin | http://www.stuff.co.nz/technol[…]ores-free-flights <-- chris |
01:37 | chris | noice |
01:37 | gotta love the internet | |
01:38 | im gonna get me one of them there tshirts | |
01:39 | darling | love that |
01:39 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 4451 followup - don't need /g for this replace <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6bee54a344d526fb7> / Fix for Bug 4451 Batch item tool can't process file with Windows line endings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1fd4c03acb1859d20> |
01:39 | New commit(s) kohagit32: bug 4451 followup - don't need /g for this replace <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d4b3b8bec4cf6e71> / Fix for Bug 4451 Batch item tool can't process file with Windows line endings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0f461c97d5cfc966c> | |
01:45 | hudsonbot | Starting build 49 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
01:45 | Starting build 179 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
01:46 | chris | man is chris_n just sitting there waiting for me to push and BAM he pushes too |
01:46 | seriously that was within minutes | |
01:50 | * chris_n | figures its easier to keep up than to catch up ;-) |
01:50 | chris | :) |
01:56 | http://theashes.spreadshirt.com/ | |
01:58 | darling++ #thanks for the solr email | |
01:58 | darling | chris, no worries |
01:58 | er, loads of worries | |
01:58 | chris | heh |
01:58 | darling | solr scares the crap out of me |
01:59 | but it's very fast | |
01:59 | chris | yeah, i think having it as an option is good, but i dont like it as the only option |
01:59 | darling | agree |
01:59 | and is a great excuse to make nice interfaces | |
01:59 | chris | :) |
01:59 | darling | i am learning a lot about it this week on wrms |
02:00 | chris | cool |
02:00 | darling | enough to see there's way more to know |
02:00 | chris | yeah, its a big pile of things, solr + lucene + some kinda webserver + java |
02:01 | darling | and a bag of spare mem sticks |
02:01 | chris | yup |
02:01 | darling | but it's very fast |
02:01 | chris | it is indeed |
02:02 | it does work well, until it asplodes | |
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02:13 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #179: SUCCESS in 28 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/179/ |
02:13 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4451 Batch item tool can't process file with Windows line endings | |
02:13 | * Galen Charlton: bug 4451 followup - don't need /g for this replace | |
02:14 | Project Koha_3.2.x build #49: SUCCESS in 28 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/49/ | |
02:14 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4451 Batch item tool can't process file with Windows line endings | |
02:14 | * Galen Charlton: bug 4451 followup - don't need /g for this replace | |
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02:31 | chris | yay for hudson |
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02:34 | chris | go back to bed cait1 |
02:35 | * jcamins | gives cait1 a mug of kava tea |
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03:08 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
03:08 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_a | |
03:08 | Brooke | night |
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03:15 | * Brooke | goes to grab a nice ole slab of pie after a wee bit of sabre rattling in order to fuel some case hist. |
03:15 | * druthb | heads out to bed. |
03:17 | Brooke | night |
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03:34 | * Brooke | waves at Oak |
03:34 | Oak | Oak hugs Brooke |
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04:13 | Brooke | okay, legalese has once again successfully made me sleepy :D |
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04:40 | robin | I'm trying to write an internal value into 999$s using ModBiblio, but Koha is actively removing it. Any ideas why? |
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04:50 | kmkale | good morning all |
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05:04 | cait1 | good morning #koha |
05:10 | brendan | morning |
05:11 | cait1 | hi brendan :) |
05:18 | kmkale | reading logs, what is the typical rfid tag cost? |
05:19 | cait1: you have caught the no sleep bug from chris and gmcharlt? | |
05:19 | cait1 | no, I forgot to turn of irc :) |
05:19 | kmkale | :) |
05:19 | cait1 | was git fetching the catalyst repo and had to leave the computer on - it took forever |
05:19 | kmkale: not sure about the cost | |
05:20 | one of our libraries is using rfid though and another is implementing it at the moment | |
05:20 | kmkale | yup I left my laptop on yesterday to fetch android sdk n stuff |
05:20 | The institute sponsoring granthalaya.org has 5 libraries and is very interested in RFID | |
05:21 | with Koha of course | |
05:21 | cait1 | we are not using renewals, but checkout and checkin work great |
05:22 | we have a problem with checkin - because the hold is not triggered and people can take the book from the cart and check it out | |
05:22 | have to retest that with 3.2 | |
05:23 | kmkale | This one is a college so primary concern is cost :( |
05:23 | cait1 | I am not sure how much they paid :( |
05:23 | we were not really involved in that part - just saying: write sip2 and koha in your contract | |
05:24 | kmkale | and that worked? man we need such suppliers in India. |
05:24 | most vendors here have only VB based interfaces to any kind of hardware. | |
05:25 | cait1 | we use a little extra software at the desk |
05:27 | kmkale | like converting to koha understandable barcode and feeding to Koha? |
05:27 | cait1 | keyboard buffer solution to write the rfid numbers into koha's interface |
05:27 | reading out the number from the tag and write it into the field | |
05:27 | kmkale | cool |
05:27 | you guyz developed the buffer or the vendor? | |
05:28 | cait1 | they use f-keys for that, one to write and unlock, one to read and lock |
05:28 | no, the vendor already had the software | |
05:28 | it's a common solution if you don't have direct integration in the ils | |
05:29 | kmkale | great |
05:29 | cait1 | I think the library is happy with it, but they don't have a lot of transactions |
05:30 | kmkale | Any idea what kind / make of rfid tags do they use? |
05:32 | cait1 | uh |
05:32 | we only talked about the data model | |
05:33 | kmkale | cool. i guess it doesn't matter as we will have to work with whats available here |
05:44 | cait1 | chris: around? |
05:46 | git checkout master | |
05:46 | gna | |
05:52 | brendan | kmkale last time I checked maybe two years ago I thought the RFID tags were about .50 cents USD |
05:53 | I think we can get them cheaper but that's a big bulk purchase | |
05:53 | s/we/one | |
05:55 | cait1 | as you are both awake now... some feedback for bug 3777? :) |
05:55 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3777 trivial, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Field Sizes Inconsistent |
05:57 | kmkale | thatnks brendan I was on a call. Here for reprogrammable rfid tags the cost quoted is about Rs 30/- |
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06:06 | brendan | cait1 how about extending the userid field? |
06:07 | cait1 is now known as cait | |
06:07 | cait | oh, it's missing in my list |
06:07 | do you have a request for that? | |
06:08 | brendan | I think it's like 30 characters now.. I don't think it would hurt to make it longer - that way users could use an email address? |
06:08 | maybe 50 characters | |
06:08 | cait | could you file a bug for that? |
06:09 | I will include it in my changes then | |
06:21 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
06:21 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 5.2�C (10:17 PM PST on November 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -1.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1028.7 hPa (Rising). Frost advisory in effect from 2 am to 9 am PST Tuesday... |
06:24 | cait | thx brendan |
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07:28 | bfleming | @wunder 59047 |
07:28 | munin | bfleming: The current temperature in Livingston, Montana is -7.0�C (11:53 PM MST on November 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -16.0�C. Windchill: -18.0�C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until noon MST Wednesday... |
07:28 | bfleming | finally warmed up a bit |
07:28 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
07:28 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.3�C (8:25 AM CET on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -7.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady). |
07:28 | cait | args |
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07:36 | chris | @wunder wellington nz |
07:36 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (8:15 PM NZDT on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
07:37 | chris | if it drops 1 degree, its gonna rain |
07:37 | i hope it does | |
07:37 | brendan | @wunder 93117 |
07:37 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 4.2�C (11:32 PM PST on November 29, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029.0 hPa (Steady). Frost advisory in effect from 2 am to 9 am PST Tuesday... |
07:37 | brendan | getting close to frost |
07:39 | chris | yeah |
07:40 | kmkale | hi chris |
07:40 | chris | hi kmkale |
07:43 | cait | brendan: 4.2C and you are complaining? ;) |
07:43 | brendan | heh |
07:43 | yup - no that I live in California - I get to :) I used to live in the cold | |
07:44 | @wunder 06798 | |
07:44 | munin | brendan: The current temperature in Washington Woodbury Road, Roxbury, Connecticut is 1.9�C (2:39 AM EST on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.59 in 1035.8 hPa (Falling). |
07:44 | brendan | not too bad |
07:45 | cait | @wunder reutlingen |
07:45 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Reutlingen, Germany is -6.4�C (8:45 AM CET on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -12.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 28.56 in 967.0 hPa (Steady). |
07:46 | cait | ok, time to go to work :) |
07:47 | bbl | |
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08:21 | magnus | ata marie, #koha! |
08:21 | chris | hiya magnus |
08:22 | magnus | hi chris |
08:23 | chris on twitter: "you can get all your due dates out as ics" - what's "ics"? | |
08:23 | chris | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar |
08:24 | try the url | |
08:24 | user:chris pass:chris | |
08:24 | and it should give you a file you can open with your calendaring software | |
08:24 | magnus | ah, cool |
08:25 | which url? | |
08:25 | chris | opac.koha.workbuffer.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-ics.pl |
08:26 | should work in your system too | |
08:26 | i think i wrote it in 2006, and it mostly still works :) | |
08:27 | magnus | :-) that is so cool, and i didn't know it existed... |
08:28 | is there a link to it anywhere in the opac interface, or do you have to know the url? | |
08:28 | chris | there used to be |
08:28 | not sure when it got removed, we should test it all works well, fix it if it doesnt and put the link back | |
08:31 | magnus | hm, i get to download a calendar file - guess that means users have to remember to do it every so often... would it be possible to have an interface that e.g. iCal could "subscribe" to? |
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08:31 | jonefuroy | hi all! n00b alert! ;) |
08:31 | magnus | guess that would mean making obscure URLs or putting username/password in the url... |
08:31 | hiya jonefuroy! | |
08:32 | jonefuroy | when trying togit clone git://git.koha-community.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone " fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" |
08:33 | magnus | try git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git |
08:33 | jonefuroy | aarghh! its just c&p and I cant get it to work! |
08:33 | magnus | it got moved and the wrong URL is still given somewhere, i think |
08:33 | where did you find the url? | |
08:33 | chris | magnus: yeah, that was my next plan an md5 hash |
08:34 | jonefuroy | thank you! |
08:34 | magnus | chris: that would be so cool! |
08:34 | jonefuroy | *I'll be back* ;) |
08:38 | magnus | chris: i can create a bug for the link to the existing ics-script, if you don't mind, lest we forget... |
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08:41 | kf | hi #koha |
08:41 | chris | magnus: yep, good idea |
08:42 | magnus | guten morgen kf |
08:43 | kf | hi chris and magnus |
08:55 | chris | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4451 |
08:55 | munin | 04Bug 4451: normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Batch item tool cannot process barcode file with Windows line endings |
08:55 | chris | check it out |
08:56 | i added a new field patch status | |
08:56 | it only shows up, when patch-sent is set | |
08:56 | im going to set it to patch pushed from now on, when i push a patch | |
08:56 | so its easy to do a report to find all those ones that need to be tested | |
08:57 | magnus | cool! |
08:59 | and useful | |
09:06 | kf | chris++ |
09:07 | magnus | chris++ # yeah! |
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09:34 | kf | chris: anything I can do about bug 5423? |
09:34 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5423 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Deleted Patrons are no longer saved in table deletedborrowers |
09:35 | kf | perhaps persuade magnus to test and sign-off? ;) |
09:35 | chris | yep, or colin |
09:35 | or anyone :) | |
09:36 | kf | ibot? |
09:36 | ibot | kf? |
09:36 | kf | anyone? |
09:37 | magnus? | |
09:37 | ibot | rumour has it magnus is an awesome fellow |
09:38 | magnus | hm, if i can put it off until this evening? got some things i have to get done now... |
09:40 | kmkale | chris in the same vein what can I do about bug 5418? |
09:40 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5418 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, New itemBarcodeInputFilter for libsuite8 style barcodes |
09:46 | chris | again, needs a signoff |
09:48 | hdl | kf and kmkale will try and do some tonight |
09:48 | hi chris | |
09:50 | kf | hdl: that would be nice, thx |
09:50 | it's an evil bug | |
09:50 | hdl | kf this was already coped I think in BibLibre member circ branch. |
09:50 | But yes it is an evil bug. | |
09:51 | (and well hidden) | |
09:51 | kf | yeah, but no patch was sent and the problem is in there since june |
09:52 | and no bug was filed - it doesn't help if it's only on your branch and nobody knows :( | |
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09:54 | hdl | kf: yes... But it doesnot help to have to double work opening bugs... rebasing all the work... Adding important new features. I try to do my best... But time is running fast. |
09:55 | kf | same here - I meant no offense |
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09:55 | hdl | i took no offense. |
09:55 | kf | I think some problem in your branches are already fixed, because nobody knew htere was a patch for that - and we should work on that |
09:55 | hdl | jsut stating things. |
09:55 | kf | not to double up efforts |
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09:58 | kf | this is a data loss bug - so it should have been a blocker in 3.2 |
09:58 | hdl | I should in fact take time to review all the bugs and stress out all the bugs fixed. |
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09:58 | hdl | in our branches. |
09:59 | Oh god why have you made only 24hours a day. | |
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10:09 | kf | I wonder about that myself a lot |
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10:12 | chris | ok thats enough poking at hudson |
10:12 | time for sleep | |
10:13 | !hudson status | |
10:13 | hudsonbot | status of all projects: |
10:13 | Koha_3.0.x: last build: 2 (1 mo 0 days ago): FAILURE: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]job/Koha_3.0.x/2/ | |
10:13 | Koha_3.2.x: last build: 49 (8 hr 28 min ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/49/ | |
10:13 | Koha_Master: last build: 179 (8 hr 28 min ago): SUCCESS: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/179/ | |
10:13 | kf | good night chris |
10:14 | kmkale | yay dodgy net connectivity today |
10:14 | thanks hdl | |
10:14 | hdl | good night chris. |
10:14 | kmkale: thank me when it will be done pls | |
10:15 | kmkale | will do that but thanks now for the intent ;) |
10:25 | brendan_l | heya hdl :) |
10:31 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
10:31 | jcamins | Good morning, Europe. |
10:37 | magnus | hiya jcamins |
10:38 | kf | hi jcamins |
10:38 | early for you? | |
10:59 | jcamins | Yes. |
10:59 | Horribly so. | |
10:59 | My mother-in-law has a 9am flight home. | |
11:00 | hdl | hi brendan_l |
11:01 | brendan_l | :) |
11:03 | magnus | jcamins: a mixed blessing? ;-) |
11:03 | jcamins | magnus: yeah. But now that I'm up, I should really get some work done before I leave for class. |
11:49 | * jcamins | heads off for a rather pointless class... but at least it's the *very last* one in library school. |
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12:26 | druthb | Good morning, #koha. |
12:27 | hdl | hi druthb |
12:37 | kmkale | hi druthb |
12:37 | druthb | :) |
12:38 | * druthb | waves to hdl and kmkale |
12:38 | kf | hi druthb |
12:39 | druthb | :) |
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13:15 | * jonefuroy | is back with silly n00b questiones! |
13:16 | jonefuroy | i have just installed koha folowing the directions in "http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD" |
13:17 | but when i try to point my browser at http://localhost/ it just says its working and nothing more!!! | |
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13:19 | jonefuroy | "Point your browser to http://<servername>:8080/" |
13:20 | actually says not found! | |
13:21 | bigbrovar | did u install koha on the machine u are working on or on a remote machine |
13:21 | jonefuroy: . | |
13:21 | jonefuroy | i started on the one im working on |
13:21 | started=installed | |
13:22 | bigbrovar | ok in that case try 127.0.1.1:8080 |
13:23 | jonefuroy | Network Access Message: The page cannot be displayed |
13:23 | bigbrovar | that is if u installed koha on the machine u have physical access to and that machine has a gui and a web browser |
13:23 | jonefuroy | it does... |
13:23 | hmmrf! :( | |
13:23 | bigbrovar | what is the ip address of the machine |
13:23 | jonefuroy | im on that machine now |
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13:24 | bigbrovar | what is the ip address of the machine |
13:25 | jonefuroy | im trying to fin out... |
13:25 | bigbrovar | u can go to terminal and run ifconfig |
13:25 | jonefuroy | :158.149.115.30 |
13:25 | inet addr | |
13:26 | bigbrovar | ok try 158.149.115.30:8080 |
13:26 | jonefuroy | im trying |
13:28 | nope... not working | |
13:28 | bigbrovar | are u sure koha is running? |
13:29 | service koha-zebra-daemon start | |
13:29 | jonefuroy | oh my! |
13:29 | druthb is now known as drb_mtg | |
13:29 | jonefuroy | koha-zebra-daemon: unrecognized service |
13:30 | sems tha my zebra is not doing to good! | |
13:30 | im sorry for wasting your time... im completely fresh at this! | |
13:30 | bigbrovar | jonefuroy: its ok .. I was once like that |
13:31 | kf | jonefuroy: if you get it works it's probably your apache conf file |
13:32 | jonefuroy | i should be able just to c&p this right ? # README.Debian.gz # NameVirtualHost *:80 Listen 80 Listen 8080 <IfModule mod_ssl.c> # If you add NameVirtualHost *:443 here, you will also have to change # the VirtualHost statement in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl # to <VirtualHost *:443> # Server Name Indication for SSL named virtual h |
13:32 | sorry | |
13:32 | kf | is localhost working? |
13:32 | jonefuroy | i should be able just to c&p this right: sudo -u ${KOHA_USER} zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
13:32 | yes it is kf | |
13:32 | bigbrovar | jonefuroy: try using www.pastebin.com |
13:34 | kf | bigbrovar: it's not a zebra problem, it's the apache settings |
13:34 | jonefuroy: you have not run the webinstaller right? | |
13:35 | bigbrovar | kf: yeah I had same problem had to make some adjustment to koha apache settings |
13:35 | kf | what I normally do for my dev installs is enter the ip address of my machine into the virtual host settings |
13:35 | jonefuroy | okay...? |
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13:35 | kf | I am not sure it's hte right way to do it for a production system |
13:37 | magnus | jonefuroy: if you get "it works" the default site is probably "gettting in the way" |
13:38 | jonefuroy | okay... |
13:38 | magnus | jonefuroy: try this on the commandline: sudo a2dissite default |
13:38 | and then: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload | |
13:38 | kf | thx magnus |
13:40 | jonefuroy | no luck! |
13:41 | kf | you can look at your /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha file |
13:41 | bigbrovar | can u your /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha to pastebin.com |
13:41 | kf | hehe |
13:41 | jonefuroy | 2 sec |
13:42 | http://pastebin.com/Uz7KL0eQ | |
13:43 | 99: ServerName koha1:8080 | |
13:44 | kf | looks like you have the wrong ip in there |
13:44 | you told us 158.149.115.30 earlier, but the file says 192.168.42.112 | |
13:44 | jonefuroy | sorrysorry... |
13:45 | kf | no need to be sorry - but perhaps that's the problem? |
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13:45 | jonefuroy | its still not working |
13:47 | i disabled #NameVirtualHost like the howto said... was that wrong? | |
13:48 | bigbrovar | jonefuroy: in my configuration my <VirtualHost section is like this <VirtualHost *:80> |
13:50 | jonefuroy | do you have LISTEN 80 and LISTEN 8080 as well? |
13:50 | bigbrovar | I have them commented out |
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13:51 | jonefuroy | i the get this NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
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13:53 | bigbrovar | did u comment out NameVirtualHost *:80 ? |
13:53 | jonefuroy | i did so fist... but now its not commented out! |
13:54 | bigbrovar | and also have it commented out in /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
13:54 | jonefuroy | and i did reload apache! |
13:55 | http://pastebin.com/pUtPkJfs | |
13:55 | bigbrovar | make sure u back up the original config before you make ur back up |
13:56 | comment out this NameVirtualHost *:80 | |
13:56 | magnus_ | jonefuroy: here's part of my setup: http://koha.pastebin.com/eB7eWUzZ you would use koha1 instead of kohanor32 |
13:56 | bigbrovar | and comment it out in /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha |
13:57 | jonefuroy | thanks ill try |
13:58 | bigbrovar | make sure u restart apache when u do |
14:10 | 2 how can I get pazpar2 to work. I had it configured and installed when installing koha from source. But I cant seem to get it to work (I don't even know if it is running) but when I enable it in preferences amazon cover doesnt work in opac and search is sometimes broken | |
14:16 | jonefuroy | thanks alot bigbrova and kf it did not work soand now im going home... Will keep on trying! |
14:17 | bigbrovar | |
14:17 | ibot | bigbrovar is probably downloading the latest release now |
14:18 | magnus | jonefuroy is one determined librarian |
14:18 | jonefuroy | |
14:18 | ibot | i think jonefuroy is one determined librarian |
14:18 | magnus | ;-) |
14:21 | jonefuroy | haha! |
14:24 | and a lazy one... any reason to not see the students at the school! | |
14:27 | magnus | Laziness Impatience Hubris http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?LazinessImpatienceHubris |
14:28 | bigbrovar | jonefuroy: thats the spirit :) |
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14:49 | bigbrovar | is there any docs on how to setup pazpar2 and get it to work. how do I even know if its running |
14:53 | magnus | bigbrovar: beats me, i've never seen any koha specific docs for it |
14:53 | maybe check out the docs at http://www.indexdata.com/pazpar2 | |
14:55 | jwagner | owen, online? |
14:55 | owen | Yes |
14:55 | bigbrovar | magnus: where u able to get it to work? |
14:55 | jwagner | Trying to check your fix for Bug 4359 |
14:55 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4359 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, noItemTypeImages not active in OPAC |
14:56 | jwagner | I just updated to current head -- if I'm reading bugzilla right, the patch should be there, correct? |
14:56 | I'm not seeing any difference -- icons are still showing in OPAC. | |
14:58 | magnus | bigbrovar: never tried, sorry... |
14:59 | hdl | bigbrovar: Chris or miguel or maybe Amit could be of some help in that purpose. |
14:59 | owen | jwagner: Are you looking at the detail page? |
15:00 | * owen | finds it's working for the detail page and the advanced search page |
15:00 | jwagner | Yes |
15:00 | I'm seeing icons on both advanced search and detail page | |
15:01 | noItemTypeImages is set to "don't show" -- this patch still uses that syspref, right? | |
15:01 | I wasn't sure if the patch was in current head or in the 3.2.1 line, or both. | |
15:01 | owen | What does mysql say? select value from systempreferences where variable = 'noItemTypeImages'; |
15:02 | jwagner | The table value is 1 -- the interface says Don't Show |
15:04 | kmkale | bye all |
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15:05 | jwagner | owen, which codeline are you on? |
15:05 | owen | HEAD |
15:05 | jwagner | So am I. Hmmm. I just did a git pull this morning, so it should be current. |
15:06 | About says 3.02.00.004 | |
15:07 | owen | Anyone else care to test for us? |
15:07 | jwagner | I'm trying to be a good citizen & close the patch, but it's not cooperating :-( |
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15:10 | owen | Hi wizzyrea_ |
15:10 | wizzyrea_ | hey owen |
15:11 | owen | wizzyrea_: Do you have an installation of HEAD that you could test Bug 4359 on? |
15:11 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4359 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, noItemTypeImages not active in OPAC |
15:12 | wizzyrea_ | I do but (and it's a big one ha) i'm not inside that network atm. |
15:17 | owen | As Pee-wee said, "Everyone I know has a big 'but'" |
15:17 | * druthb | falls out of her chair. |
15:20 | druthb | @quote add <owen> As Pee-wee said, "Everyone I know has a big 'but'" |
15:20 | munin | druthb: The operation succeeded. Quote #108 added. |
15:22 | jwagner | Hmm. I'm not seeing the fix for Bug 5051 in current head either. |
15:22 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5051 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab |
15:22 | jwagner | If Chris Cormack says he pushed the patch, it should be in current head, yes? |
15:23 | owen | Yes |
15:23 | jwagner | That's what I thought. I don't yet have a dev server tracking 3.2.1 etc., but I am tracking head. |
15:24 | owen | jwagner: I think something must be up with your install. That bug is fixed for me. |
15:28 | jwagner | It's the same server I've been using for current head for a while, but this is the first time I've updated it since 3.2 went official. druthb checked & it is tracking head. I dunno. If someone else has a chance to test those two on current head, I'd appreciate hearing the results. |
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15:29 | owen | Compare the version of circulation.tmpl on your server to the one in git: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f80035131;hb=HEAD |
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15:30 | jwagner | owen, what am I looking for there? |
15:31 | sekjal | testing this on a 2hr old git pull of master: I get a renewal due date box and calendar for patrons that haven't checked out today |
15:31 | owen | Try this jwagner: Check to see if you have the file intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/checkouts-table-footer.inc |
15:33 | jwagner | No, I don't. |
15:33 | owen | Then you're not up to date. |
15:33 | That file was introduced with the fix for Bug 5051 | |
15:33 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5051 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab |
15:33 | jwagner | git pull thinks I am. |
15:33 | * owen | shrugs |
15:34 | owen | What does git say when you say 'git log' ? |
15:34 | jwagner | Ha. druthb thinks she has spotted the problem. Give us a second to change the config. |
15:36 | * druthb | instructs jwagner to cross her fingers...this *should* work... |
15:37 | druthb | owen: do you have, as your top commit, d056b2f62a7f971126590236bee54a344d526fb7, for Bug 4451? |
15:37 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4451 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Batch item tool cannot process barcode file with Windows line endings |
15:37 | owen | Yes |
15:37 | druthb | Good. Thanks. |
15:38 | jwagner: try now? | |
15:38 | * owen | wonders if jwagner wasn't using the magic words, "git please" |
15:39 | jwagner | No, I was using the magic words, "Ruth, HELP!!!" |
15:39 | That seems to have done it, I'm seeing both fixes now. (After some arguments with the config and the web installer...) | |
15:39 | Thanks for checking! | |
15:39 | * druthb | wiggles her eyebrows. |
15:40 | jwagner | druthb++ |
15:40 | druthb | woo hoo! thanx! |
15:40 | wizzyrea_ | druthb++ |
15:41 | druthb | :) 'twerent nuthin'. |
15:42 | @karma druthb | |
15:42 | munin | druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 41 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 41. |
15:43 | * owen | is glad his fixes aren't all a figment of his imagination |
15:43 | druthb | @karma jwagner |
15:43 | munin | druthb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 50 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 50. |
15:48 | jwagner | Oh, no! druthb is gaining on me!!! |
15:50 | kf | druthb++ |
15:50 | * kf | goes and hides |
15:50 | * druthb | happy-dances. |
15:50 | * jwagner | thinks kf won't be getting any cookies from ME today! |
15:51 | kf | I have still chocolate fudge :) |
15:51 | jwagner | Harrumph! That won't last forever, though! |
15:52 | kf | I can work on being nice tomorrow... should last for the rest of the week... |
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15:54 | * druthb | will share her cookies with kf anytime! |
15:56 | kf | :) |
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15:59 | owen | So who is Prosentient and why aren't they part of the Koha community? |
15:59 | http://listserve.prosentient.c[…]iewforum.php?f=21 | |
16:00 | wizzyrea_ | whoa |
16:00 | http://www.intersearch.com.au/koha_services.html | |
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16:03 | magnus | "The Inter-Search LMS is based around the Koha open source core" - "We have extended the Koha core to provide a rich hosted solution to your Library Management needs." http://www.prosentient.co.uk/KohaInfo.html |
16:04 | owen | Love those "based around open source" products :| |
16:04 | magnus | nah... |
16:04 | trea | ./sigh |
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16:06 | kf | Inter-Search Koha tm? |
16:08 | magnus | the title says Inter-Search(tm) Koha... |
16:08 | wizzyrea_ | i bet the TM is on Inter-Search |
16:08 | not on Koha | |
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16:09 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
16:09 | kf | http://www.prosentient.co.uk/KohaInfo.html bottom of the page |
16:09 | * jcamins | looks at his e-mail and blanches |
16:10 | wizzyrea_ | lol, does this link work: http://pericles.ipaustralia.go[…]o=10&p_rec_all=13 |
16:10 | owch. | |
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16:11 | druthb | Hi, jcamins. :) |
16:11 | jcamins | Koha coffee? |
16:11 | wizzyrea_ | also |
16:11 | http://pericles.ipaustralia.go[…]o=13&p_rec_all=13 | |
16:11 | owen | I thought ATMOS was this: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/A[…]c_Omission_System |
16:12 | trea | me2 |
16:12 | wizzyrea_ | and me |
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16:12 | trea | bloody sontarans |
16:17 | kf | inter-search koha - 26-MAY-2010 |
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16:17 | wizzyrea_ | aha |
16:18 | so very recent | |
16:18 | well | |
16:18 | not very but pretty | |
16:18 | kf | not very nice without any appearance in the community at all |
16:19 | wizzyrea_ | yea, definitely not |
16:19 | especially considering that the guy who registered the domain talks a lot about the community in his papers and such | |
16:19 | s/talks about/makes a lot of judgementes | |
16:20 | hrmph. | |
16:24 | jcamins | Carpooling? |
16:25 | * magnus | wanders off to move some snow around |
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16:28 | chris | jwagner: if your about page says 3.02.00.004 then you arent on head, head is 3.03 |
16:28 | jwagner | chris, thanks -- problem in git config, now solved. |
16:29 | About now says 3.03.00.004 | |
16:29 | chris | thats more like it |
16:29 | jwagner | (and what are you doing up this early???) |
16:29 | chris | kids |
16:29 | jwagner | Ah. |
16:30 | chris | they are back asleep now tho |
16:30 | kf | hi chris |
16:30 | chris | wizzyrea_: there was someone from prosentient at kohacon |
16:30 | * kf | hands chris some chocolate fudge |
16:30 | jwagner | chris, who? |
16:30 | wizzyrea_ | OH was it edmund? |
16:30 | chris | cant remember |
16:30 | some australian tho, i did talk to him at thelibrary | |
16:31 | jcamins | chris_n: Do I need to do something else with bug 5311? The status is CLOSED FIXED, but you posted another comment on the bug. |
16:31 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5311 normal, P5, ---, koha, CLOSED FIXED, Language dropdown in advanced search broken? |
16:31 | chris | was only there for conference proper, seemed nice enough |
16:32 | wasnt the owner | |
16:33 | chris_n | jcamins: nope; I just marked it closed as the present maintenance release includes the fix |
16:33 | jcamins | chris_n: Oh, I thought I'd done that previously. Sorry. |
16:33 | chris_n | jcamins: as a rule, the bug reporter should mark RESOLVE FIXED and VERIFIED |
16:34 | then when a release is made with the fix the bug is marked CLOSED | |
16:34 | jcamins | Ah. |
16:34 | I see. | |
16:35 | kf | oh |
16:35 | is this on the wiki yet | |
16:35 | ? | |
16:37 | chris_n | kf: there is a link "Status" right on the bug report which leads to http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ields.html#status |
16:37 | kf | cool :) |
16:37 | chris_n | which explains the generally accepted use of the various status markers |
16:38 | chris | speaking of which |
16:38 | * chris_n | thinks there may be a link to that on the wiki bug report section as well |
16:38 | chris | that needs to have my new patch status thing added |
16:38 | * chris_n | thinks it is there |
16:38 | chris_n | opps |
16:38 | you mean on the help page | |
16:38 | chris | yeah |
16:39 | if you change the dropdown on priority to patch sent | |
16:39 | you should get a new drop down appear under the sponsored one | |
16:39 | * chris_n | really wishes his shoes were made of chocolate so when he put his foot in his mouth it would be more enjoyable |
16:39 | chris | which i am now going to use when i push patches |
16:40 | chris_n | nice |
16:40 | chris | so that we can do reports |
16:40 | on all the ones that are awaiting testing | |
16:40 | larsw | chris_n, Chaplin ate licorish shoes, so that must be a good idea |
16:40 | chris_n | lol |
16:41 | larsw | (in "The Gold Rush") |
16:41 | chris_n | chris: so does "pushed" mean the patch has been qa'd and is now in HEAD? |
16:41 | if so, perhaps a "awaiting QA" option might be good? | |
16:42 | chris | yep i might add two more |
16:42 | awaiting_qa, and REJECTED!! | |
16:43 | but nicer :) | |
16:43 | jcamins | With exclamation marks!! :D |
16:43 | chris | patch not accepted maybe |
16:43 | wizzyrea_ | You suck try again? |
16:43 | lol sorry | |
16:43 | * wizzyrea_ | goes away |
16:43 | druthb | "Your_Patch_Is_Made_of_FAIL" |
16:43 | jcamins | "Nice try, next time try thinking it through first"? |
16:44 | gmcharlt | Koha in three words - "Tough Love!, Contributor" |
16:46 | chris | heh |
16:46 | for our sins, we very rarely reject a patch outright | |
16:47 | gonna be more of that for this release, but ill try to be nice | |
16:49 | larsw | "Please accept our heartfelt apologies to you, and to the greater Koha community, for coming up with an excuse for rejecting your patch. We have found it necessary to include it in the next version of Koha. We will do our utmost to not let this happen again." |
16:50 | * druthb | stumbles in the parsing of that. |
16:50 | * jcamins | too |
16:51 | larsw | s/for coming/for not coming/ |
16:51 | chris | heh |
16:51 | gmcharlt | much better |
16:51 | druthb | oh. |
16:51 | * larsw | goes away and hides in shame |
16:51 | jcamins | Ah. |
16:51 | * wizzyrea_ | pats larsw |
16:51 | druthb | Aw! |
16:51 | wizzyrea_ | it's ok |
16:52 | druthb | That's not the worst typo I've seen around here lately. |
16:52 | larsw | actually, I'm going back to hunting down the bug that makes unwanted roots not go away in my backup app :) |
16:52 | * druthb | made a worse one that that t'other day. |
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17:29 | * chris | will bbl, gotta make lunches for the kids |
17:33 | kf | still need someone to signoff on bug 5423 - it's a evil data loss bug, but easy to test! |
17:33 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5423 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Deleted Patrons are no longer saved in table deletedborrowers |
17:33 | * kf | advertises her bug ;) |
17:33 | kf | ok, time to leave - bbl! |
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17:49 | wizzyrea_ | did magnus put that page of "places to get free marc records" on the wiki? |
17:49 | jcamins | I think so. |
17:49 | wizzyrea_ | I can't seem to find it >.< |
17:50 | oh oh I found it | |
17:50 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_sample_MARC_data | |
17:51 | jcamins | Yay! |
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18:14 | druthb | @karma jcamins |
18:14 | munin | druthb: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 35 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 34. |
18:14 | druthb | :-O |
18:14 | @karma wizzyrea | |
18:14 | munin | druthb: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 119 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 119. |
18:14 | wizzyrea_ | *blush* |
18:14 | druthb | ain't'a gonna catch wizzy, no way. |
18:14 | wizzyrea_ | just try catching chris |
18:14 | @karma chris | |
18:14 | munin | wizzyrea_: Karma for "chris" has been increased 222 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 220. |
18:15 | wizzyrea_ | who would decrease chris's karma |
18:15 | lol | |
18:15 | druthb | I'm wondering that about jcamins, too. |
18:15 | * jcamins | probably lost karma for talking about scary cataloging problems. |
18:16 | druthb | scary_cataloging_problems-- |
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18:19 | brendan_l | I think I'm a nice even 20 |
18:19 | @karma brendan | |
18:19 | munin | brendan_l: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 20 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 20. |
18:19 | brendan_l | :) |
18:21 | sekjal | brendan++ |
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18:23 | druthb | not any more, you're not. |
18:23 | @karma sekjal | |
18:23 | munin | druthb: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 42 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 41. |
18:23 | brendan_l | sekjal++ |
18:24 | druthb | @karma druthb |
18:24 | brendan_l | @karma sekjal |
18:24 | munin | druthb: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 42 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 42. |
18:24 | brendan_l: Karma for "sekjal" has been increased 43 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 42. | |
18:24 | druthb | ooooo... |
18:24 | * druthb | slugs it out with sekjal for her place in the rankings. |
18:28 | cait joined #koha | |
18:28 | cait | hi #koha |
18:28 | :) | |
18:28 | druthb | hi, cait! :) |
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18:29 | cait | hi ruth :) |
18:29 | wizzyrea_ | ah good cait's back. I was missing her brain. |
18:29 | schuster joined #koha | |
18:29 | wizzyrea_ | and the rest of her of course |
18:30 | cait | what brain? |
18:30 | druthb | hi, schuster! :) |
18:30 | wizzyrea_ | ba dum bum |
18:30 | you're like one of the cleverer people i kno :P | |
18:30 | know even. | |
18:30 | not even like, you *are* one of the cleverer people I know | |
18:31 | * cait | gets scared |
18:31 | wizzyrea_ | hrmph. |
18:31 | modest too. ;) | |
18:31 | * jcamins | agrees with wizzyrea |
18:31 | jcamins | wizzyrea++ # for being right |
18:31 | cait++ # for being very clever | |
18:31 | wizzyrea_ | ^^ |
18:31 | cait++ | |
18:31 | @karma cait | |
18:31 | munin | wizzyrea_: Karma for "cait" has been increased 48 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 48. |
18:32 | wizzyrea_ | @karma kf |
18:32 | munin | wizzyrea_: Karma for "kf" has been increased 35 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 35. |
18:32 | wizzyrea_ | aha!! |
18:32 | * cait | looks around carefully and wonders what happened to her #koha friends |
18:32 | cait | alien invasion? |
18:32 | wizzyrea_ | lol |
18:32 | analytic records! | |
18:32 | does that make you feel better? | |
18:32 | or worse, depending | |
18:33 | * wizzyrea_ | shuts up |
18:33 | cait | worse |
18:33 | have still not written my rfc :( | |
18:33 | and not tested the branch | |
18:33 | * druthb | waves at gmcharlt, and asks if he still has the moxie to fix munin so cait's karma is all in one place or the other? |
18:34 | cait | hm, would not be fair, some people add to both |
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18:34 | cait | wizzyrea: want some chocolate fudge? |
18:35 | wizzyrea_ | !! yea! |
18:35 | indradg joined #koha | |
18:35 | wizzyrea_ | ibot, cait? |
18:35 | ibot | cait is, like, a developer! or a librarian |
18:35 | cait | good, I have to get rid of it before I eat it all |
18:35 | * cait | hands wizzyrea a big portion |
18:35 | * wizzyrea_ | shares it with spud |
18:35 | druthb | ibot, cait? |
18:35 | ibot | cait is probably really sweet. |
18:36 | cait | ibot: that's only the fudge ;) |
18:36 | ibot | cait: sorry... |
18:37 | jcamins | ibot: that? |
18:37 | ibot | that is a risk you have to take... ;-) |
18:37 | wizzyrea_ | ibot is |
18:37 | druthb | ibot? |
18:37 | ibot | yes, druthb? |
18:37 | druthb | lol |
18:37 | cait | ibot: ibot? |
18:37 | ibot | i am still small - he needs to learn more :) |
18:38 | cait | ibot botsnack chocolate fudge |
18:38 | ibot | :) |
18:38 | schuster | hey all just reading back.. |
18:39 | druthb | we gotta quit gossiping about schuster when he's not here, y'all. ;-) |
18:39 | cait | sekjal++ for fixing all languages :) |
18:40 | * sekjal | pulls just slightly ahead of druthb |
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18:42 | wizzyrea_ | ibot: schuster? |
18:42 | ibot | schuster is a fan of hawaiian shirts |
18:46 | cait | !hudson botsnack chocolate fudge |
18:46 | hudsonbot | cait: thanks a lot! om nom nom. I could eat chocolate fudge all day long |
18:46 | cait | http://www.hudson-labs.org/con[…]hos-driving-thing |
18:47 | schuster | Hey how did ibot know that... only at conferences though... Makes me stand out and findable for the after conference meetings. |
18:47 | gossip all you want then I can find out what I'm supposed to be doing... | |
18:47 | wizzyrea_ | hehe |
18:48 | chris | oracle-- |
18:48 | Dickwads | |
18:48 | wizzyrea_ | oh that is made of fail |
18:49 | schuster | agrees with chris... |
18:50 | chris | All that will happen, hudson changes its name and continues and more ppl hate oracle |
18:51 | jcamins | chris: I think that would be a little difficult. |
18:51 | I mean, Oracle seems to have being hated down to a science. | |
18:51 | chris | For more ppl to hate them? |
18:51 | jcamins | Right. |
18:51 | chris | Yeah |
18:52 | If anything its going to make the project stronger | |
18:52 | See mambo vs joomla | |
18:52 | Its pretty clear who won that | |
18:53 | And it wasn't the ones trying to enforce the 'name' | |
18:53 | * jcamins | had never heard of Mambo |
18:53 | chris | Exactly! |
18:57 | This rain better stop | |
18:57 | Xmas party at the zoo today | |
18:57 | For work | |
18:58 | @wunder wellington nz | |
18:58 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 01, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
18:59 | druthb | @wunder 20817 |
18:59 | munin | druthb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 15.0�C (1:59 PM EST on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect from late tonight through Wednesday afternoon... |
18:59 | chris | I think the rain will burn off |
19:00 | Got 8 hours to do so | |
19:01 | druthb | It's been drizzly and wet all day here, and is expected to be all night, too. :/ |
19:02 | chris | 300 ppl inside won't be fun |
19:02 | So I hope it stops tonight | |
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19:04 | chris | bbiab |
19:04 | * owen | remembers Mambo. |
19:04 | even remembers PHPNuke. | |
19:06 | * jwagner | remembers DOS programming, and Windows version 1 |
19:09 | also remembers the original MAC and the original IBM-PC boxes | |
19:10 | is getting old :-( | |
19:11 | * druthb | learned BASIC programming on the Atari 2600, then the Vic-20. Thought that was just *awesome*. |
19:15 | wizzyrea_ | wow look at all that consensus behind "fork and rename" |
19:16 | * druthb | heads out to catch a bus. |
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19:20 | owen | wizzyrea_: Re: Hudson? |
19:20 | wizzyrea_ | yea |
19:21 | owen | Nobody want to be under the thumb of a controlling entity who doesn't really believe in the ideals of the community |
19:21 | wizzyrea_ | ^^ |
19:22 | owen | Regarding the latest email to the Koha list, "Koha hidden subfields showing in opac..." |
19:23 | Those OPAC/!OPAC settings don't actually do anything do they? | |
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19:26 | cait | owen: they do, but only for the marc view |
19:26 | and perhaps labelled marc | |
19:29 | chris | back |
19:29 | cait | wb chris |
19:29 | chris | yeah, xslt ignores them, so does the plain view, and we should fix that |
19:30 | owen | Does any view obey them? |
19:31 | Oh, I guess the MARC view does | |
19:31 | I thought I'd tested it and it didn't. | |
19:31 | jwagner | So far as I know, those are only obeyed in edit mode. |
19:31 | * cait | feels ignored ;) |
19:31 | chris | hehe yeah cait is usually right, i just listen to her |
19:31 | marc view, and editor | |
19:32 | owen | cait: I was just being stubborn and not believing you :) |
19:32 | cait | perhaps really an alien invasion... |
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19:35 | cait | chris: any news about template toolkit? :) |
19:36 | only checking, trying to find out what I want to do now | |
19:36 | chris | nope, i just got in to my desk |
19:36 | ill get chris to look at the issues you found today though and then get you to retest when i think its fixed | |
19:37 | i might send some patches through too | |
19:37 | the ones that fix the variable names | |
19:37 | they are harmless and needed before we can switch | |
19:37 | chris_n | funny how the hudson issue sounds like a strangely familiar tune |
19:38 | chris | oh snap! |
19:38 | cait: im fairly sure its some setting we are doing for the utf8 i just have to figure out what | |
19:39 | cait: and the variable names problem is we have things liek something-something | |
19:39 | cait | chris: ok :) |
19:39 | chris | in our templates |
19:39 | that doesnt work in TT | |
19:39 | cait | ah, what's the right thing for tt? _? |
19:40 | chris | yes |
19:40 | valid perl variable names | |
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19:40 | cait | ok |
19:40 | not too hard then | |
19:41 | chris | nope |
19:41 | and chrish has done them all pretty much already | |
19:41 | cait | I think I will go and work on the states / borrowers table bug 3777 |
19:41 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3777 trivial, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Field Sizes Inconsistent |
19:41 | chris | yay! |
19:42 | cait | got some comments about it |
19:46 | lol | |
19:47 | everybody is so enthusiastic today :) | |
19:52 | jcamins | November 30 is a good day. :) |
19:52 | chris | december 1 for me |
19:52 | rhcl | today we had our 1st snow day of the year. Does that make Nov 30 good or bad, I wonder. |
19:52 | cait | oh, christmas money |
19:52 | owen | chris: Anything you wished you could have gotten done in November? We could pitch in. |
19:53 | wizzyrea_ | we still have time! |
19:53 | chris | heh |
19:53 | jcamins | cait: Christmas money? |
19:53 | cait | christmas bonus? |
19:53 | chris | someone could go through bugzilla |
19:53 | jcamins | Oh, no, I'm just having a good day. :) |
19:53 | chris | find anything that says patch pushed, but isnt closed |
19:53 | and set the patch status | |
19:53 | but its mind numbingly boring | |
19:53 | cait | jcamins: money you get end of november from your employer |
19:53 | chris | so you might have to listen to this |
19:53 | http://listen.grooveshark.com/[…]/Chillax/40200536 | |
19:53 | jcamins | Yeah, holiday bonus. |
19:54 | * jcamins | technically isn't an employee, so probably won't be getting any bonus |
19:55 | chris | holy crap |
19:55 | * jcamins | is still in a staggeringly good mood |
19:55 | jcamins | :) |
19:55 | chris | Nearly 600 people have said they are coming to the ZooDoo this evening. |
19:55 | cait | ZooDoo? |
19:55 | wizzyrea_ | now THAT is a christmas party |
19:55 | jcamins | chris: well, it's at the zoo. |
19:57 | chris | yup, we have the whole zoo to us |
19:57 | jwagner is now known as jwag_mtg | |
19:57 | cait | what wizzyrea said |
19:58 | jcamins | chris: in light of that, 600 people doesn't seem that surprising. |
19:58 | Zoo! | |
19:58 | wizzyrea_ | it's a cool zoo, too |
19:58 | cait | ZOO! |
19:59 | wizzyrea_ | you can get within inches of the giraffes |
19:59 | so close they could eat your hair | |
19:59 | jcamins | wizzyrea_: and you managed to drag your son away? Well done! |
19:59 | wizzyrea_ | it was tough |
20:03 | * cait | really has to go back to wellington one day - |
20:04 | cait | missed the giraffes |
20:04 | chris | the red pandas are the coolest |
20:05 | cait | aw cute |
20:05 | wizzyrea_ | they had the pandas put away the day we were there :( |
20:05 | cait | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_panda |
20:05 | wizzyrea_ | or we missed them, or something, because I didn't see any |
20:05 | chris | http://www.wellingtonzoo.com/n[…]ounter.aspx?id=20 |
20:06 | you can feed them! | |
20:07 | cait | chris: you make it really hard! |
20:07 | chris | hehe |
20:07 | cait | about bug 3777 |
20:07 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3777 trivial, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Field Sizes Inconsistent |
20:08 | cait | any opinion what fields should have default null? |
20:09 | chris | everything that doesnt have a key on it |
20:09 | the only thing that cant ever be null is the borrowernumber | |
20:09 | cait | ok, that's an easy rule |
20:10 | there are more fields specified as not null | |
20:10 | surname | |
20:10 | chris | yeah i dont think thats valid |
20:10 | cait | address |
20:10 | but I am not sure it makes sense | |
20:10 | chris | we shouldnt enforce those constraints at db level |
20:10 | because you can choose the mandatory fields at application level | |
20:10 | if a library wants to make address not mandatory, we should let them | |
20:11 | cait | ok |
20:11 | I will push my changes to a branch later so people can take a look | |
20:11 | chris | good idea |
20:12 | * cait | is still so happy that she learned how to do that |
20:14 | cait | chris: when does the ZooDoo start? |
20:14 | chris | 5 i think |
20:14 | i cant remember | |
20:15 | yes, the bus from work leaves at 4.30 | |
20:15 | cait | :) |
20:15 | our xmas party will be at work this year, we will all bring food and have a quiz | |
20:15 | no zoo | |
20:16 | but still fun, helping with organisation this year :) | |
20:23 | jcamins? | |
20:23 | ibot | jcamins is supposed to be an outstanding cook. |
20:23 | chris | cait: http://www.stuff.co.nz/busines[…]cut-fares-by-half |
20:23 | wizzyrea_ | O.O |
20:23 | chris | return to europe for $1000nzd |
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20:26 | cait | yeah, but you have to bring your own food ;) |
20:27 | wizzyrea_ | better than airplane food anyway |
20:44 | jcamins | wizzyrea_: requires quite a lot of food, though. |
20:45 | chris | .ws 12 |
20:45 | hmm | |
20:45 | magnus_a is now known as magnus | |
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20:50 | cait | hi magnus |
20:50 | magnus | guten abend cait & #koha |
20:57 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
20:57 | munin | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.9�C (9:55 PM CET on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1003.9 hPa (Falling). |
20:57 | magnus | @wunder bodo, norway |
20:57 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0�C (9:50 PM CET on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising). |
20:57 | magnus | got about 20 cm snow today, but then it started raining... |
20:58 | rhcl | we got about .02 cm of snow today |
20:58 | but the first snow of the year | |
21:00 | cait | we have some snow but the roads and most paths are free |
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21:07 | cait | wb druthb |
21:07 | druthb | thanks, cait. :) |
21:07 | chris | heya druthb |
21:07 | druthb | hi, chris! :) |
21:09 | brendan_l | hi all |
21:09 | chris | hi brendan_l |
21:09 | * brendan_l | loves to grin :) |
21:10 | brendan_l | er... smile I guess |
21:10 | druthb | hi, brendan_l. :) |
21:11 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5450 Avoid a name clash in ILSDI modules <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]edfdb9e70963fdee6> / Fix for Bug 5402, "add to cart" shown on checkbox hover <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]38eb70c54b0798f31> |
21:11 | owen | did I miss a discussion of template toolkit variable names? What are the limitations? |
21:12 | chris | they need to be valid perl variable names |
21:12 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5462 | |
21:12 | munin | 04Bug 5462: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Fix variable names so we dont break template::toolkit |
21:12 | chris | im about to create and push new/awaiting_qa/bug_5462 |
21:12 | which has all the fixes for variable names in it | |
21:13 | so something-something becomes something_something | |
21:13 | etc | |
21:13 | something-something will cause template::toolkit to try and perform a subtraction :) | |
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21:13 | * owen | is surprised that "something-something" worked in HTML::Template |
21:13 | * magnus | wishes all the wonderfully productive koha-people a good night or other time of the day of their own choice |
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21:14 | chris | owen: yeah, we were lucky, not good |
21:14 | also we had . in some variable names | |
21:14 | cait | uh |
21:14 | chris | yeah :) |
21:16 | hudsonbot | Starting build 180 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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21:29 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit32: Bug 5450 Avoid a name clash in ILSDI modules <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc3c90471380bd0f3> / Fix for Bug 5402, "add to cart" shown on checkbox hover <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6340f6c02a8bc9378> |
21:31 | chris | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]iting_qa/bug_5462 |
21:31 | hudsonbot | Starting build 50 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
21:32 | cait | :) |
21:32 | getting sleepy - good night all :) | |
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21:40 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_Master build #180: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/180/ |
21:40 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5402, "add to cart" shown on checkbox hover | |
21:40 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 5450 Avoid a name clash in ILSDI modules | |
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21:54 | hudsonbot | Project Koha_3.2.x build #50: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/50/ |
21:54 | * Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5402, "add to cart" shown on checkbox hover | |
21:54 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 5450 Avoid a name clash in ILSDI modules | |
21:54 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
21:54 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 21.0�C (4:40 PM EST on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Falling). |
21:55 | chris | does it ever cool down there? |
21:55 | @wunder macon georgia | |
21:55 | munin | chris: The current temperature in Pierce Ave, Macon, Georgia is 24.6�C (4:30 PM EST on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling). Tornado Watch 759 in effect until 10 PM EST this evening... |
21:55 | schuster | @wunder 75035 |
21:55 | munin | schuster: The current temperature in Preston Lakes, Frisco, Texas is 9.1�C (3:55 PM CST on November 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -10.0�C. Windchill: 7.0�C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa (Steady). |
21:56 | chris | melia from catalyst is in macon at the mo, home to see the family for xmas |
21:56 | hope she doesnt get tornadoed away | |
21:56 | schuster | Might take her to Kansas...:) |
21:56 | chris | heh |
21:56 | well least she knows someone there, she met wizzyrea at kohacon | |
21:57 | schuster | Yep my thoughts too... Nice people in Kansas - almost as nice as people in Minnesota and Texas(places I have lived...) |
21:59 | chris | heh, the koha-consort rollcall is funny |
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22:01 | joetho | on? |
22:01 | schuster | the Koha consortium list... I was curious who all was there... |
22:01 | chris | yeah |
22:02 | schuster | Yes it is kinda funny and people who aren't consortium folks even. |
22:02 | chris | its a very very quiet list |
22:02 | schuster | Marla from INCOLSA emailed me directly how to see who all is on the list - 67 people or so... |
22:02 | chris | ahh no wonder its quiet |
22:03 | 1605 on the main koha list | |
22:03 | dunno about the other ones | |
22:03 | incolsa are all eg now arent they? | |
22:04 | ahh i foudn the koha-consort list too | |
22:04 | joetho: you are there ;) | |
22:07 | robin | koha-consort is a pretty amusing name, if you change the stresses. |
22:08 | * jcamins | took a while to figure out what was being discussed. |
22:11 | chris | heh |
22:12 | chris_n | interesting: "...SOLR is very fast as long at it is given enough memory..." (from robin's link) |
22:12 | chris | well yeah it is 'enterprise' :-) |
22:12 | which always mean, get ready to buy some new hardware to run it | |
22:12 | robin | yeah, I'm not surprised. Java is pretty fast once it's spun up. |
22:12 | chris | :) |
22:13 | * chris_n | would rather drink java than code in it ;-) |
22:13 | robin | in other news, I think we should port Koha to Perl 6 |
22:13 | I went to a talk on it the other day. Made of awesome. | |
22:14 | chris | yeah perl 6 is sweet |
22:14 | im gonna rewrite my kohabot in it | |
22:14 | since it only talks to koha via the ils-di api, its an easy target | |
22:14 | robin | good plan |
22:15 | http://osdc.blip.tv/file/4442577/ <-- rangi | |
22:15 | http://osdc.blip.tv/file/4442064/ <-- also, my talk about SaaS and Koha. Don't watch it. | |
22:16 | chris | jcamins: was it you asking who was conway? |
22:16 | that first talk is him :) | |
22:16 | he is a bloody great speaker | |
22:17 | robin | At LCA '06, he did a whole-day seminar on public presenting. |
22:17 | Which I attended. | |
22:17 | ANd have since forgotten most of | |
22:17 | But I think I have the recordings on an MP3 player somewhere :) | |
22:17 | chris | :) |
22:18 | * chris_n | wonders why the MS publisher installer spins up immediately after the scribus installer winds down.... |
22:19 | chris_n | maybe scribus now auto-de-installs MS publisher... hehe |
22:19 | schuster | by all... |
22:19 | * cfouts | loves Scribus |
22:20 | chris | cya schuster |
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22:20 | * chris_n | wishes scribus would slurp up ms pub docs |
22:20 | chris_n | that would be the icing on the cake |
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