IRC log for #koha, 2010-11-29

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07:10		Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha - www.koha-community.org.  Koha 3.2.1 is Now Available - Next general meeting on 8 December 2010 at 10:00 UTC+0.  This channel is logged.
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07:24	fredericd	Chris: In which module do you think there is a chance to find memory leaks? Dou you have any suspect?
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07:31	chris	fredericd: could be anywhere, but im almost certain biblio.pm
07:32		and/or search.pn
07:32		maybe in some scripts too
07:32		a borrower who links to issues which links to items which links to the borrower
07:33		but i think its quite likely somewhere we have a marc object which refers to something that refers to the marc object
07:33		we definitely have leaks
07:34		finding them is the trick
07:34	fredericd	yes, it's like finding a needle in a haystack
07:35	chris	yep
07:35	fredericd	i'm playing with the idead of finding a cycle and then documenting a methodoly
07:35		all but easy
07:36	chris	running under plack, and using top and hitting a few pages might give you a hint where the big ones are
07:36		or under mod_perl there are some tools to watch thread size
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07:44	irmaB	Hi all
07:45		Could someone share the link to the green Koha logo?
07:45		thanks
07:46	kmkale	bbl
07:47	chris	fredericd: http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/[…]el/Leak/Object.pm and http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/[…]el/Leak/Module.pm
07:47		look promising
07:47		irmaB: which link? there are lots of them
07:48		http://koha-community.org/file[…]02/kohalogo-g.png is one
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07:55	irmaB	that is the one !
07:55		chris thanks.
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09:41	cait	hi #koha
09:42		@later tell jcamins not that the logs are back I can see you already discussed the solution I used in my patch :) and the fudge is still great, even for breakfast.
09:42	munin	cait: The operation succeeded.
09:43	magnus	hiya cait & #koha
09:44	cait	morning magnus :)
09:51		hm logs are down
09:52		ah, now it works
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10:41	bigbrovar	just upgraded from koha 3.2.0 to 3.2.1 and I have to say it was as smooth as butter :)
10:43	magnus	yay! ;-)
10:46	kmkale	hi magnus
10:46	magnus	hiya kmkale
10:50	cait	hi kmkale and bigbrovar
10:51	kmkale	hi cait
10:51	bigbrovar	hi cait
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12:15	jonefuroy	hi chan!
12:15		insalling and having some issues!
12:15		behind a firewall and cant get :  Run the following command:     $ sudo cpan MARC::Crosswalk::DublinCore GD GD::Barcode::UPCE Email::Date \ HTML::Scrubber Algorithm::CheckDigits::M43_001 Biblio::EndnoteStyle \  Locale::Currency::Format
12:16		to work
12:16		not writing smiles ;)
12:25	cait	sorry, I am not sure what you can do
12:26		can you install those modules from your os packaging system?
12:26		if you are using debian or ubuntu that should be the case
12:27	jonefuroy	i'll try!
12:27		thank you!
12:27		im using ubuntu...
12:28	magnus	hm, guess it depends on how the firewall is set up...
12:28		why it's blocking cpan
12:28	jonefuroy	well im at work and i got the http proxy going and can do almost anything...
12:29		i can ping and do almost anything from terminal, but this one didn't want to download..
12:30	magnus	what's the error message, if any?
12:30	jonefuroy	u wouldent know what this is called in synaptic?
12:30		Connecting to www.perl.org|207.171.7.63|:80... failed: Connection timed out. Retrying.
12:30	cait	I think cpan works over ftp
12:30		perhaps 22 or 21
12:30		but using the packages is better anyway
12:32	jcamins_a	jonefuroy: the packages should have names like libmarc-crosswalk-perl
12:32		(put "lib" at the beginning, "-perl" at the end, and replace each '::' with a '-')
12:32	jonefuroy	aahhH! this is a life saver irc channel!
12:32		LOVE YOU GUYS!
12:33	magnus	but isn't the cpan command there because there are no packages for those modules?
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12:33	jcamins_a	Ubuntu has them.
12:33	magnus	cool
12:33		hi Nate
12:33	jcamins_a	So does the latest Debian.
12:34		At least, that's what I was told.
12:34	Nate	Hi magnus, jcamins and everyone else!
12:34	jonefuroy	it does... at least for some of them... : libmarc-crosswalk-dublincore-perl Convert data between MARC and Dublin Core
12:34	jcamins_a	Good morning, Nate.
12:35	* jcamins_a	leaves to get ready for work. He really is "_away" ;)
12:35	magnus	i thought debian squeeze had all of them, but not necessarily ubuntu... i might be wrong, though!
12:36	jonefuroy	hi magnus!
12:36	magnus	hei, jonefuroy ;-)
12:36		and yes this irc channel can be a real lifesaver! ;-)
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12:43	magnus	hiya jwagner
12:44	jwagner	Hi magnus
12:47	cait	hi jwagner
12:48		going for a walk -  bbl )
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12:48	magnus	lunchtime!
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13:06	druthb	Good day,#koha.
13:09	Nate	hello druthb
13:09	jonefuroy	hello! its me again...
13:09		more cpan problems
13:09		DBD::mysql
13:09		??
13:12		maybe not a problem...
13:20	nengard	okay - i don't care if the pups are having fun in the cold - it is time to close the door or i might lose a toe ....
13:21	druthb	lol
13:21	jonefuroy	;)
13:21	druthb	They have fur coats on, and you don't!
13:21	nengard	yuh huh
13:21		sometimes they seem to forget that
13:23	* druthb	had to break out her heavy coat for the morning commute today.
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13:24	* druthb	waves to owen.
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13:24	owen	Happy finished-with-Thanksgiving my fellow Americans!
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13:26	jwagner	But if we're finished with Thanksgiving, that means .... OH NO! RUN AND HIDE FOR A MONTH!!!
13:26	druthb	Yes, the Christmas music blitz has begun.
13:26	* jwagner	tries to avoid all shopping malls during the month of December
13:27	druthb	One of the Internet DJs I listen to occasionally flatly refuses to play any Christmas music until after her birthday on Dec 15.  It's a good policy.
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13:28	owen	We get so much Christmas music against our will, I can't imagine listening to it voluntarily
13:30	nengard	LOVE Christmas Music!!!
13:30	* nengard	is a geek
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13:30	owen	A Christmas geek?
13:30	* jwagner	is a Scrooge
13:30	jwagner	Bah, humbug
13:30	nengard	yes owen - among other kinds of geeks
13:31	druthb	@quote add <jwagner> Bah, humbug
13:31	munin	druthb: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
13:31	druthb	@quote add <jwagner> Bah, humbug
13:31	munin	druthb: The operation succeeded.  Quote #106 added.
13:32	jwagner	And harrumph!
13:32	* druthb	giggles a little.
14:01	kmkale	hi druthb
14:02		hi owen nengard jwagner
14:02	* druthb	waves to kmkale
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14:02	owen	Hi kmkale
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14:03	nengard	hi kmkale
14:06	kmkale	Is there any setting in Koha to allow patrons to return books at any branch *without* turning off independent branches?
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14:12	nengard	kmkale, i don't know for sure but it sounds like the answer to your question is - nope
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14:13	jwagner	Hi kmkale
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14:21	jcamins	Good morning again, #koha
14:22	markk	good morning jcamins
14:22	kmkale	hi jcamins
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14:22	magnus	g'day #koha
14:22	druthb	Hi, magnus! :)
14:22	kmkale	hi magnus
14:28	jwagner	Hi again magnus
14:28	magnus	hi folks! ;-)
14:29	* jcamins	thinks someone's having trouble with the online calendar. We have an event "New Event" tomorrow, and on Friday the staff calendar says "out: working from home"
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14:30	cait	hi #koha
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14:32	jwagner	Hi cait
14:35	jcamins	Hi cait.
14:35	* druthb	waves to cait and sekjal.
14:35	jcamins	Marcel_de_Rooy++
14:36	sekjal	morning, everyone!
14:36	kmkale	hi cait sekjal
14:40	jcamins	Morning, sekjal.
14:40	sekjal	morning, kmkale, jcamins
14:40		for those of you who had it, how was your holiday weekend?
14:40	druthb	peaceful.  :)
14:41	jcamins	Dishearteningly brief.
14:42		But nice enough. Yours?
14:42	nengard	productive
14:43	sekjal	I got a chance to relax a little
14:43	druthb	mine was Potter-ized, also.
14:43	nengard	so was mine!!
14:43	sekjal	even with having the in-laws over for dinner
14:43	nengard	:)
14:43	sekjal	we made an awesome Thanksgiving Dinner pizza
14:43	nengard	ooo
14:44	jcamins	I think I've been banned from making pizza again this year.
14:44	kmkale	This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)
14:44	sekjal	the crust was stuffing, then it was topped with cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, roasted celery/onions, turkey and a light cheese blend
14:44		oh, and topped with gravy
14:45	jcamins	Something about "how much pizza do you think we can eat, anyway? We're just two people!"
14:46	nengard	sekjal did you have a recipe for that
14:46		send it my way :)
14:46	jcamins	Yes, I have to say that sounds delicious.
14:47	sekjal	my wife is going to blog it, hopefully
14:47		she took pictures all along the way
14:47	nengard	send me that when it's done :)
14:47	sekjal	sure will
14:49	jwagner	@quote add <kmkale> This is a food channel. Sometimes we discuss Koha too ;)
14:49	munin	jwagner: The operation succeeded.  Quote #107 added.
14:49	cait	jwagner++
14:49		wanted to add that too hehe
14:49	kmkale	:)
14:49	cait	we had no thanksgiving here, but made chocolate fudge
14:50	nengard	sounds way better than turkey :)
14:50	kmkale	and food discussions are always when I am sitting late in office all alone :(
14:50		hungry
14:50	* cait	hands kmkale some chocolate fudge
14:50	* jcamins	beams kmkale a chocolate roll (think cinnamon roll, but with grated chocolate in place of the cinnamon-sugar)
14:51	cait	I know, virtual doesn't taste as good, but it has no calories ;)
14:51	kmkale	thanks cait with a recipe plz. may be I will surprize the wife in this lifetime
14:51	* jwagner	hands kmkale some chocolate chip cookies
14:51	nengard	ahhhh - stop with all the sugar :) hehe
14:51	kmkale	:)
14:51	cait	hehe, it's jared's recipe
14:52	jwagner	nengard, sugar = increased adrenaline = increased Koha productivity.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
14:52	cait	jcamins: can I send your writeup to kmkale?
14:52	jcamins	cait: of course!
14:52	cait	kmkale: it's on my other computer, but if you give me your address I will send it to youlater
14:53	kmkale	jcamins jwagner when I get home will send you guyz some cashew nuts
14:53	jcamins	Here it is.
14:53	jwagner	Mmmmm
14:53	kmkale	cait: kmkalegmail.com
14:53	jcamins	Wait, no, just kidding. Apparently paste.koha-community.org expires pastes. :(
14:54	cait	oh
14:54		I saved it to a text file
14:54	jcamins	cait: could you post the recipe to bug 5158 as well?
14:54	munin	04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED, Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
14:55	jcamins	:)
14:55	cait	will do :)
14:55	kmkale	:)
14:55	cait	but have to do some cleaning here first before I get to the other computer
14:55	* druthb	looks at that bug, and boggles.
14:55	cait	2 persons for a weekend in 34 qm - my apartment needs some attention now :)
14:57		oh, if someone has a little time - waiting for feedback about bug 3777
14:57	munin	04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3777 trivial, P5, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Field Sizes Inconsistent
14:59	nengard	cait comment added
14:59		now time to clean up here and head to the airport - my second home
14:59		talk to you all when i'm in VT
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15:00	* druthb	waves happily to wizzyrea.
15:00	kmkale	buy all. must head home if I am get any dinner
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15:00	wizzyrea	hello
15:01	jcamins	Happy post-Thanksgiving, wizzyrea. :)
15:02	cait	hi wizzyrea
15:02		save travels nengard
15:02	wizzyrea	thanks everybody, I trust that everyone had a lovely holiday?
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15:11	jcamins	Mine was nice, albeit brief.
15:15	wizzyrea	nice :)
15:15	cait	no holidays here - but a very nice weekend
15:15		my best friend from library school was visiting
15:15	wizzyrea	brief = bad but nice = good
15:15		ooo, sounds fun
15:16	cait	it was :)
15:24	sekjal	my phone has bricked.  this is very frustrating, as I'm waiting on a call
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15:26	magnus	sekjal: ouch
15:27		"has bricked" or "has been bricked"? ;-)
15:27	sekjal	it bricked itself
15:27	tcohen	hi, how can I get main author show in record detail (staff), only aditional authors are shown
15:27		(koha 3.0.6)
15:28	sekjal	it must have heard me, because it just turned on
15:28		huh
15:28	magnus	woot!
15:29	jcamins	sekjal: if you have a GSM phone, I've had good luck with pulling the SIM card, turning the phone on, then replacing the SIM card.
15:29		But apparently you didn't need to do that.
15:29	sekjal	it was in DEEP discharge... which is odd, because I'd recharged it fully yesterday evening
15:29		well, that'd saves me some running around
15:30		s/'d//
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15:32	* druthb	waves to trea.
15:35	trea	o/
15:35		morning
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15:57	jcamins	Oh, does anyone know why Zeno Tajoli changed the elsif ($marcflavour eq "UNIMARC")'s to ifs with his latest patch?
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15:57	jcamins	It seems like an odd change, so I'm wondering if this is a "peculiarity of Perl that jcamins isn't familiar with."
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16:01	druthb	mornin', cfouts.
16:01	cfouts	good day, druthb
16:02		I keep reading your moniker as "Dr. Ruth"
16:02	* druthb	chuckles.
16:02	* owen	too!
16:02	* druthb	isn't nearly as sassy as that other Dr. Ruth.
16:03	owen	...and then I always start to wonder if anyone knows who Dr. Ruth is anymore
16:03	cait	who is dr. ruth?
16:03	cfouts	http://drruth.com/
16:03	owen	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Westheimer
16:03	jcamins	cait++ # because that was perfect timing
16:04	cait	hehe
16:04	* druthb	feels very old, suddenly.
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16:05	sekjal	brb
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16:07	markk	guys ... i'm having the same issue always .. sorry for it ... but the barcode incrementation is driving me crazy!! anyone had any issue with it?
16:07	cait	markk: sorry, we don't use it
16:08	jcamins	markk: sorry, we buy pre-printed barcodes and scan them in.
16:08	markk	oh .. i see
16:08		10x anyway
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16:10	jcamins	cait++ # for teaching me the word "kabelsalat"
16:11	cait	lol
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16:24	jcamins	How much memory do most people use with Koha?
16:25		I have just learned that Koha is memory hungry.
16:25		Or, others have found it to be so.
16:31	cait	I think koha itself is not the problem perhaps, but the zebra indexes
16:33	cfouts	memory being as cheap as it is these days, it's hard to say what qualifies as "hungry"
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16:34	jcamins	cfouts: true. I learned programming from very traditional texts- I was surprised to learn a few months back that most people have given up on bitfields in C.
16:35	cfouts	people still program in C?
16:35		;)
16:35	jcamins	Not really, no.
16:37	cfouts	the most memory-hungry piece of Koha in my experience is that which MySQL requires in order to run efficiently. specifically, the InnoDB buffer
16:43	jcamins	I think the long weekend was just needed. I came in this morning to discover that all last week I was showing signs of extreme dyslexia.
16:44		*much needed
16:44		The call numbers I came up with? Very creative.
16:48	cait	hehe
16:49	jcamins	And wrong. Very, *very* wrong.
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16:51	cait	don't be so hard to yourself
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17:01	* wizzyrea	snickers at the backlog
17:01	* cait	hands wizzyrea some chocolate fudge
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17:02	wizzyrea	NOM NOM NOM
17:02	nengard	Hi from airport shuttle :)
17:02	wizzyrea	http://icanhascheezburger.com/tag/moar/
17:03	* druthb	thinks wizzyrea wants more fudge.
17:03	wizzyrea	and that
17:03		http://icanhascheezburger.file[…]y.gif?w=219&h=148
17:03	* cait	hands wizzyrea mooore fudge
17:03	cait	but share with your family ;)
17:03	wizzyrea	hehe I will
17:03		and thanks :)
17:04		http://icanhascheezburger.file[…]-b39c1598f803.jpg
17:05	jcamins	wizzyrea: that looks like my cat.
17:06	wizzyrea	hee
17:07	jcamins	Well, except for the teeth.
17:07		My cat doesn't have any teeth.
17:08		(shh, don't tell him)
17:10	* druthb	is owned by Basement Cat.
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17:44	nengard	Bleh .. airport lunch is icky but for $8 u bet im finishing it
17:45	* jcamins	offers nengard the last chocolate roll
17:45	jcamins	Oh, and pizza!
17:45	nengard	:)
17:45	jcamins	Not a Thanksgiving pizza, just a pizza pizza.
17:46		Which reminds me... I have pizza dough in the fridge.
17:46	nengard	Hehe
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17:57	nengard	Last in waiting area has tiny pup with her .. I wanna go steal him
17:57		Or st least give him a cuddle
17:57		St was at
17:58	jcamins	I guess we know that nengard is using a keyboard not a number pad. :)
17:58	nengard	Tiny touch keyboard leads to lots if typos
17:59		Of typos
17:59		I rest my case
17:59		:(
17:59	tcohen	hi, anyone had the main author not shown in record detail (staff), only aditional authors are shown (3.0.6)
17:59		?
18:01	hudsonbot	Starting build 175 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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18:03	cait	tcohen: are you using xslt display? marc21 or unimarc?
18:04	tcohen	xslt, yes marc21
18:05	cait	hm
18:05		and your author is in 100?
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18:08	jcamins	tcohen: I think XSLT is broken for staff display in 3.0.x.
18:08	munin	New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5430' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7367d2af1e4fd8778> / Bug 5430: Follow-up, fixes error message when no 001 exists <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d7eb013cc87786ce9> / bug 5217 incrementing db version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co
18:08	cait	chris++
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18:09	tcohen	jcamins: you mean we should not use xslt? or not use it for staff?
18:10	jcamins	I'm not certain, but I *think* that in 3.0.x, the XSLT should only be used for the OPAC.
18:10	tcohen	is there a bug entry for that?
18:10	jcamins	Probably.
18:10		I don't know for sure about this, though. I never used 3.0.x.
18:10		Or, rather, never successfully used 3.0.x.
18:12		I think it's lunch time. Save the merge conflicts for later.
18:13	chris	got a bunch of signed off patches (thanks gmcharlt) to check and push today
18:13		but there are quite a few new ones over the last week that need qa/sign offs
18:13	* druthb	waves to chris.
18:14	chris	i must mail colin again
18:14		hi druthb
18:18		right time to finish making the kids lunches, bb from the bus
18:20	cait	tcohen: you could update to 3.2
18:22		chris: is there a list of patches that need sign-off? can we help testing?
18:22	hudsonbot	Project Koha_Master build #175: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/175/
18:22		* Chris Cormack: Bug 4211: This patch should provide a working way to send out mail from suggestions
18:22		* Galen Charlton: bug 4211: more fixes to suggestion letter template handling
18:22		* Galen Charlton: bug 4211: ensure that suggestion emails have full details
18:22		* Galen Charlton: bug 5127: sample notice templates for suggestions
18:22		* Galen Charlton: bug 5127: database update to add the suggestion notification templates
18:22		* Chris Cormack: bug 5217 incrementing db version number
18:24		Starting build 176 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:24	nengard	Cait he has them in qa branches
18:25	tcohen	cait: i'll try. an upgrade here is a complicated task as we have +30 live libraries now
18:25		a lot of testing is needed before we step into a new version :-D
18:25	cait	understandable :)
18:26		perhaps you can use the normals display in staff for a while longer
18:26	tcohen	in 3.0 there's no way to switch (by configuration) to no-xslt in staff only
18:26	nengard	Pilot and crew have boarded .. I should get packed up ttyl
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18:27	cait	tcohen: oh
18:29		nengard: not all I think
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18:30	cait	wb magnus :)
18:33	chris	cait: you are right, the patches that have come in the last few weeks are single patches and are just sitting in my inbox
18:34	cait	hi chris
18:35	chris	And on the list of course
18:35	tcohen	cait: it looks like it is not a xslt think
18:35		but a Biblio:GetMarcAuthors thing...
18:35	cait	tcohen: oh
18:35	tcohen	if ( $marcflavour eq "MARC21" ) {
18:35		$mintag = "700";
18:35		$maxtag = "720";
18:36		}
18:36	chris	That subroutine is only for getting the additonal authors
18:37		The author will be in the biblio hashref already
18:37	tcohen	chris: thanks :-D
18:39	cait	chris: is there something I can test?
18:39	chris	Any of the patches you want
18:39		Or
18:40		Take a look at the new templates
18:40	cait	hehe
18:40	chris	There is a page on the wiki about them
18:40	cait	ok, will go to the wiki
18:40	chris	Basically everything should behave the same
18:41	tcohen	chris: the record itself or the author is never passed to the template in the params
18:41	cait	ok
18:41	tcohen	it looks like we only pass MARCUTHORS
18:42	chris	tcohen: I doubt that or the title wouldn't show either
18:42		And it certainly used to work, you are sure there is data in biblio.author?
18:42	cait	tcohen: so the author still doesn't show when you turn the xslt display off?
18:42	chris	I still think it is to do with xslt
18:43	cait	yeah me too
18:43	chris	Because ppl certainly have authors showing in 3.0
18:44	tcohen	cait: it doesn't show either
18:44	cait	and you have the author in 100?
18:44	tcohen	http://fcq.biblio.unc.edu.ar/c[…]biblionumber=2233
18:44	cait	how does your koha to marc mapping look like ?
18:44	tcohen	this is the record on the OPAC
18:45		author100aNombre Personal
18:45	chris	Yes that is with xslt on
18:46	tcohen	chris: xslt is off right now
18:46	hudsonbot	Project Koha_Master build #176: SUCCESS in 22 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/176/
18:46		Katrin Fischer: Bug 5430: Follow-up, fixes error message when no 001 exists
18:46	chris	Doesn't look like it
18:46	cait	chris: hm sure? I think the | don't appear in xslt
18:46	tcohen	i'll turn it on
18:47		right now
18:47	chris	http://fcq.biblio.unc.edu.ar/c[…]biblionumber=2233
18:47	druthb	@karma
18:47	munin	druthb: Highest karma: "chris" (218), "gmcharlt" (207), and "owen" (182).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-71), "failed" (-49), and "-" (-30).  You (druthb) are ranked 14 out of 1089.
18:48	cait	tcohen: now you have it turned on?
18:48	tcohen	yes
18:48	cait	that's not the normal xslt stylesheed - it's been modified
18:48		stylehseet
18:48		stylesheet
18:48	* cait	can't type :)
18:49	cait	and it shows as autor personale
18:49	chris	My stop bbl
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18:52	cait	hi Brooke
18:53	Brooke	hi there :)
18:59	tcohen	cait: sorry, just got a little discusion with a librarian
18:59	rhcl	hi Brooke
18:59	tcohen	we've got a modified xslt, you're right
18:59		the problem I have is in the staff interface
18:59		it shows on OPAC
19:00	cait	ok, and you use the standard xslt in intranet?
19:01	tcohen	:-D don't know :-D
19:01		we have set our own in XSLTResultsFilename
19:01		perhaps the path is hardcoded for staff
19:02	jcamins	XSLTResultsFilename?
19:02		Is that a 3.0.x thing?
19:03	chris	hmmm
19:03	cait	yeah it is
19:03	jcamins	Ah. Didn't think I recognized it.
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19:06	tcohen	chris: in 3.0.x... does GetBiblioData handle links to auths?
19:07	chris	yes
19:07	tcohen	mmm... you've already answered that... sorry
19:07	* jcamins	thinks he must need another long weekend. After all that fixing, the call numbers are wrong. Again.
19:08	chris	tcohen: check the db
19:08		make sure you have something in biblio.author
19:08	tcohen	the "select FROM biblio LEFT JOIN biblioitems LEFT JOIN itemtypes" got me thinking
19:09	chris	yes its SELECT *
19:09		so it has everything in biblio
19:09	tcohen	you where right: NULL
19:10		chris: if we're using authorities, do we need to have author!=NULL
19:10		?
19:11		is there a routine to fill them from auth data?
19:11		s/data/records/
19:11	chris	in the search?
19:11		no
19:11		i suspect there must be something modified with your system
19:12		because i have definitely seen author showing in 3.0.x
19:12	tcohen	it shows on opac, using xslt
19:12	chris	yes, but in normal 3.0.x it shows on everywhere without xslt
19:12	tcohen	ok
19:12		I think i'll study the code a bit more and come back tomorrow
19:12	chris	have you checked the db ?
19:13	tcohen	thanks evry1
19:13	chris	look in the biblio table
19:13		for the author column
19:13		if thats empty, thats the problem
19:13	tcohen	in the biblio table I have NULL value for the author
19:13		(for that biblionumber)
19:13	chris	yep, thats the problme then
19:13	tcohen	how can I fill it?
19:13	chris	check your koha->marc mapping
19:14	cait	it's under administration
19:14	chris	make sure it is set to too 100a
19:14		then try editing that record
19:14	tcohen	edit then save and it should get fixed
19:14		right?
19:15	chris	if the mapping is correct
19:15		and, if nothing else has been changed :)
19:15		then maybe
19:15		but its worth a try
19:16	tcohen	chris: much thanks, i've to levae now but when I get home i'lll test
19:17	chris	cool
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19:31	richard	hi
19:31	* Brooke	waves at richard.
19:31	* richard	waves back
19:45	chris	maybe owen-away will reply to adam :)
19:45	hudsonbot	Starting build 177 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:48	munin	New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5051, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4c815198bef9e1dc> / Fix for Bug 5269 - link to patron edit form when editing turned off <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6cc4a0f8f7c43888f> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5281' into kcmaster <http://git.
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19:58	munin	New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 4981, Tweak style of item listing on MARC display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e621faebb6457dd31>
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20:04	owen	Maybe I'll do what now?
20:05	chris	hehe
20:05		did you see the message from adam
20:05		about 'rebranding' ;)
20:05	* Brooke	saw it.
20:07	hudsonbot	Project Koha_Master build #177: SUCCESS in 21 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/177/
20:07		* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5281, "Check in" then "Renew" checkboxes checked in the same time
20:07		* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5269 - link to patron edit form when editing turned off
20:07		* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5051, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab
20:07	* owen	wonders, 'auto generated style on the body tag?'
20:07	hudsonbot	Starting build 178 for job Koha_Master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:07	chris	yeah the whole message made no sense to me
20:08	trea	anyone worked with http://mongodb.org ?
20:08		i had someone ask about it the other day
20:09	chris	yep
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20:16	hudsonbot	Starting build 48 for job Koha_3.2.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:17	* owen	cheers for pushed patches
20:18	munin	New commit(s) kohagit32: Fix for Bug 4981, Tweak style of item listing on MARC display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3181e9f989d3bb2ce> / Fix for Bug 5051, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]be0d97045f37bcc2b> / Fix for Bug 5269 - link to patron edit form when editing turned off
20:19	Brooke	owen ++
20:19		owen ++
20:19		owen ++
20:20		cause hey, patches = karma, no?
20:20	chris	it wont work with the space
20:20	Brooke	owen++
20:20		owen++
20:20		owen++
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20:32	hudsonbot	Project Koha_Master build #178: SUCCESS in 24 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]/Koha_Master/178/
20:32		Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4981, Tweak style of item listing on MARC display
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20:38	jcamins	What's bug 5453 about?
20:38	munin	04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5453 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Variables declaration should not occur in conditionals
20:38	jcamins	I saw a whole bunch of patches for it, and I couldn't really tell what they did.
20:38	chris_n	jcamins: merely style changes
20:38		no functional changes
20:39	gmcharlt	jcamins: they keep perlcritic happy and avoid spurious warnings in the logs when the 'use warnings' pragma is turned on
20:39	hudsonbot	Project Koha_3.2.x build #48: SUCCESS in 23 min: http://hudson.koha-community.o[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/48/
20:39		* Chris Nighswonger: Updating Version Number to 3.02.01.000
20:39		* Chris Cormack: Bug 4211: This patch should provide a working way to send out mail from suggestions
20:39		* Galen Charlton: bug 4211: more fixes to suggestion letter template handling
20:39	chris_n	but still, I think the thought should be aired on the dev list prior to changes being pushed
20:39	hudsonbot	* Galen Charlton: bug 4211: ensure that suggestion emails have full details
20:39		* Galen Charlton: bug 5127: sample notice templates for suggestions
20:39		* Galen Charlton: Updating Version Number to 3.02.01.001
20:39		* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5281, "Check in" then "Renew" checkboxes checked in the same time
20:39		* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5269 - link to patron edit form when editing turned off
20:39		* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5051, Renewal due date doesn't always show on patron Checkout tab
20:39		* Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 4981, Tweak style of item listing on MARC display
20:39	jcamins	Ah. And Conway is a Perl style manual?
20:40	chris	Conway is a man
20:40	chris_n	!hudson botsnack pumpkin-bread
20:40	hudsonbot	chris_n: thanks a lot! om nom nom. how did you know that pumpkin-bread is my favorite food?
20:41	chris_n	jcamins: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596001735
20:41	chris	chris_n: i dont mind removing the post ifs
20:41		im not sure there is a need to go remove all of these
20:41		push @authtypesloop, \%row;
20:41		apart from it looks better without them
20:41	jcamins	chris_n: ah, thanks.
20:41	chris	post ifs are loud
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20:42	* chris_n	is not against any real coding style improvements
20:42	chris_n	just that they should be discussed and coordinated
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20:43	* jcamins	affixes cait to #koha with some raspberry fudge
20:44	cait	thx :)
20:47	jwagner	exit
20:47		bye
20:48	* jwagner	is forgetting my commands here....
20:48	jcamins	Maybe quit?
20:48	jwagner	That too....
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20:49	jcamins	Oh, for crying out loud! I transposed *another* part of the call number.
20:50	* cait	hands jcamins a cup of peppermint tea
20:51	cait	it sometimes helps me to concentrate ;)
20:53	jcamins	cait: much needed, I think. Thanks.
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21:11	* Brooke	waves to darling
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21:15	darling	hey all
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21:19	chris	hiya nengard and darling
21:19	* Brooke	salutes nengard with respect.
21:20	nengard	hiya
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21:34	jcamins	LOC allows 80 characters?
21:35	nengard	thanks to wizzyrea the new manual updates are on the website
21:36	jcamins	Ooh, I like table 5-1. :D
21:40	sekjal	jcamins: yes, all the authorised values can be up to 80 char for the code
21:40		looks like items.ccode isn't properly respecting that
21:41	jcamins	Heh. I thought they were all limited to 10.
21:41	sekjal	I think they used to be, but were expanded sometime recently
21:41	nengard	jcamins it is a awfully nice table :)
21:41	jcamins	Thanks.
21:42		Goodness knows it took me long enough.
21:43		:)
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21:45	Brooke	that is in fact pretty dern sechsy. I've always used mac's. http://www.slc.bc.ca/cheats/marc.htm
21:47	jcamins	Time to head home.
21:48	Brooke	cheers, mate.
21:48	jcamins	Good night, #koha
21:48	hdl	jcamins: Not only koha is memory consuming but also quite procintensive.
21:48		jcamins is now known as jcamins_a
21:48	hdl	But well there is work for us.
21:48	jcamins_a	hdl: I think that's mostly the circulation module, maybe?
21:49		(however, I had unlimited CPU on the server with 256MB/RAM, so I wasn't going to notice any CPU-bound issues)
21:49	hdl	yes but also processing details.
21:49		and result lists
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21:50	jcamins_a	Learn something new every day. :)
21:50		Good night, #koha.
21:50		For real, this time. ;)
21:50	cait	good night camins
21:50		+g
21:51		+j
21:51		hand is asleep again, can't type properly
21:51		good night jcamins :)
21:56		ok, time for me here too - good night all!
21:56	chris	night
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22:38	wizzyrea	ok teh pee dee eff of the manual is now working again.
22:38	* wizzyrea	mutters about transparent png's
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22:39	* Brooke	hands wizzy some high test chocolate.
22:39	wizzyrea	hehe thanks
22:42		someone please verify that you get the 20mb file when  you download http://koha-community.org/wp-c[…]a3-2manual-en.pdf
22:42		I've checked and double checked but I want someone else to CHECK AGAIN. ;)
22:43	trea	i just downloaded it
22:43		20.3 mb
22:43	darling	works for me
22:43		and has a manual inside it too
22:44	wizzyrea	I like it!
22:44		yay, thanks
22:47		I guess it never had transparent png's in it until this latest update
22:47		but, crisis averted.
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22:55	moodaepo	@wunder 56001
22:55	munin	moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 3.3�C (4:55 PM CST on November 29, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.53 in 999.9 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon CST Tuesday...
22:56	moodaepo	Yay above zero!
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23:09	Brooke	bust out the swim trunks!
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23:23	druthb	good evening, #koha.
23:26	chris	hi druthb
23:30	* chris	wanders off again
23:31	Brooke	cheers, chris.
23:48	* jcamins_a	sticks his head in to see what's happening
23:48	* druthb	waves at jcamins_a.
23:52	* Brooke	also waves
23:56	jcamins_a	chris: your son is adorable!
23:56		(just saw what he said about languages.

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