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| 01:05 | chris | heya Nate |
| 01:05 | Nate | hey chris! |
| 01:06 | chris | back on US time yet? |
| 01:06 | Nate | yessir |
| 01:06 | got back yesterday | |
| 01:06 | back on the job :) | |
| 01:07 | chris | :) jet lagged? |
| 01:07 | Nate | extremely |
| 01:07 | chris | yeah i always find it harder going that way |
| 01:08 | Nate | but the travel was totally worth it! |
| 01:08 | chris | excellent :) |
| 01:09 | Nate | time to turn in talk to you soon! |
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| 01:41 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
| 01:41 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 10.3�C (8:41 PM EST on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:17 | brendan_l | @wunder ukiah, ca |
| 02:17 | munin | brendan_l: The current temperature in westside ukiah, Ukiah, California is 5.3�C (6:17 PM PST on November 21, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 5.0�C. Pressure: 29.09 in 985.0 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 3 am PST Monday above 2000 feet... |
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| 03:19 | Amit | heya chris |
| 03:19 | prawesh | guys, do anyone know how to change the default framework?? |
| 03:22 | Amit | heya prawesh |
| 03:30 | prawesh | hi amit |
| 03:31 | so do u know how i can change the default framework?? | |
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| 04:56 | ronald__ | is there some place where i can find step by step procdure on installing koha 3.2 on ubuntu server 9.04? |
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| 05:01 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:07 | Amit | heya cait |
| 05:07 | cait | hi Amit |
| 05:07 | congratulation on your book :) | |
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| 05:32 | kmkale | Hi Amit congrats!! |
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| 07:12 | chris | thd-away: are you about? |
| 07:15 | i was replying to lori not david | |
| 07:15 | you have misread my message | |
| 07:16 | id appreciate if you didnt misquote me like that | |
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| 07:19 | kmkale | hi all |
| 07:19 | chris | hi kmkale |
| 07:24 | kmkale | hi chris |
| 07:25 | chris | i see a new patch :) hopefully you will get some more good comments :) |
| 07:26 | kmkale | yes. Mike's comments helped. |
| 07:28 | kf | hi chris and kmkale |
| 07:28 | chris | hi kf |
| 07:28 | kmkale | Who should I request to test it and sign off. I dont think anyone on list has Libsuite8 data :( |
| 07:29 | hi kf | |
| 07:29 | chris | you might have to attach some sample records to the bug |
| 07:29 | that people can use to test | |
| 07:29 | kmkale | Although I would be happy to supply a MARC file |
| 07:29 | chris | there you go :) attach it to the bug |
| 07:29 | kmkale | cool. |
| 07:32 | but anyone testing will have to input barcodes by hand in the libsuite8 format e.g. b0002345 | |
| 07:33 | chris | heres how you do it the proper way :) |
| 07:33 | have a look in the t/ dir | |
| 07:33 | kmkale | so that it gets converted, AND will have to create matching branch code and item type code. |
| 07:33 | chris | Circulation_barcodedecode.t |
| 07:33 | at that file | |
| 07:33 | kmkale | looking |
| 07:33 | chris | see the tests there |
| 07:33 | for testing t-prefix | |
| 07:33 | whitespace, etc | |
| 07:34 | kmkale | oohh. |
| 07:34 | chris | you could add a test for yours |
| 07:34 | kmkale | scared now ;) |
| 07:34 | chris | :) |
| 07:34 | see how it has inputs and outputs | |
| 07:34 | you just need to add one to each | |
| 07:35 | and then not only will you prove it works now | |
| 07:35 | kmkale | ok. then how does it help someone to test it? I mean how to use the Circulation_barcodedecode.t file? |
| 07:35 | chris | i can run prove |
| 07:35 | and all the tests in the t/ dir | |
| 07:35 | get run | |
| 07:36 | kmkale | perl prove? |
| 07:36 | chris | and also hudson, will run that test every time the code changes |
| 07:36 | yes | |
| 07:36 | its a unit test | |
| 07:36 | and doing unit tests for any new function is the ideal | |
| 07:36 | because our integration bot runs them continuously | |
| 07:37 | so if someone breaks its in future, we catch it | |
| 07:37 | http://hudson.koha-community.org/ | |
| 07:37 | kmkale | ok. thats a territory I haven't explored yet. Will study. |
| 07:38 | chris | well in your case, you only need to edit that one file, so its a good intro |
| 07:38 | :) | |
| 07:40 | kmkale | As usual chris you are a great help :) |
| 07:41 | kf | :) |
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| 07:43 | kmkale | chris t/Circulation_barcodedecode.t *seems* simple enough. Any catch? or should I wade in? |
| 07:43 | chris | wade in |
| 07:44 | kmkale | also does it become part of the patch once it runs ok? |
| 07:44 | chris | yup |
| 07:44 | perl t/Circulation_barcodedecode.t | |
| 07:44 | kmkale | great. :) |
| 07:44 | chris | will run it |
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| 07:44 | chris | (prove will run all of them) |
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| 07:47 | chris | (you might have to change the number of tests at the top .. it will tell you if you need to) |
| 07:49 | kmkale | ok. Also chris, once we are revising the same patch like this, is it the right practice to produce the whole patch as I am doing or create a patch to the earlier patch? |
| 07:50 | chris | the whole patch including the test (for a small change like this) is perfect |
| 07:50 | because no one has signed off yet | |
| 07:50 | making a new patch is fine | |
| 07:50 | if someone had signed off, we would then do a follow up patch | |
| 07:51 | * chris | hopes that makes some sense :) |
| 07:51 | kmkale | yes chris. Thanks. |
| 07:51 | thd-away is now known as thd | |
| 07:52 | kf | hi thd |
| 07:52 | kmkale | just a side note I found git tag. that made life easier |
| 07:52 | thd | hello kf |
| 07:54 | kf | chris++ for being chris |
| 07:54 | chris | git tag is cool :) |
| 07:54 | git++ | |
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| 07:55 | kf | and thanks again for the help with my little project yesterday - I learn something new every time :) |
| 07:55 | kmkale | yes i learned about test today :) |
| 07:55 | chris | its all part of my cunning plan |
| 07:55 | to not have to do any work anymore | |
| 07:55 | :) | |
| 07:55 | kmkale | lunchtime bbl |
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| 08:18 | kf | good morning france |
| 08:25 | kmkale | has anyone noticed that in Firefox on Ubuntu 10.4 or 10.10, in the circulation module, the submit button of the search header comes on next line after the search box? |
| 08:33 | chris | i hadnt noticed |
| 08:34 | kmkale | chris: a problem |
| 08:35 | chris | ill look now |
| 08:35 | kmkale | the filter I have written depends on having my $branch = C4::Branch::mybranch(); |
| 08:35 | chris | yes |
| 08:35 | kmkale | but while running tests its undef so the test fails |
| 08:35 | chris | right |
| 08:35 | in your test | |
| 08:35 | you can do | |
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| 08:36 | fredericd | good morning |
| 08:37 | kmkale | morning fredericd |
| 08:38 | chris | hi fredericd |
| 08:39 | kmkale | chris "in your test you can do" ?? |
| 08:40 | chris | kmkale: C4::Context->set_userenv($usernum, $userid, $usercnum, $userfirstname, $usersurname, $userbranch, $userflags, $emailaddress); |
| 08:40 | where all the rest can be undef | |
| 08:40 | except the branch | |
| 08:41 | that will set the userenv, so that when mybranch is called it retrieves that | |
| 08:41 | does that make sense? | |
| 08:41 | kmkale | cool |
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| 08:42 | kmkale | but this will be in effect for all the tests right? is that alright? |
| 08:42 | ivanc | hi #koha |
| 08:46 | chris | kmkale: no it will only be in effect for that test |
| 08:47 | kmkale | I meant for all tests under Circulation_barcodedecode.t |
| 08:47 | chris | ah yes |
| 08:47 | thats fine | |
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| 08:48 | kmkale | cool. let me try it out. |
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| 09:26 | kmkale | chris is there any of getting debug output from C4/Circulation.pm while I am running the test? |
| 09:29 | chris | yeah you could set the debug variable |
| 09:30 | eg | |
| 09:30 | export KOHA_DEBUG=1 | |
| 09:30 | then run your test | |
| 09:30 | kmkale | the the warn lines will print tp stdout? |
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| 09:34 | kmkale | s/the the warn lines will print tp stdout?/Will then the warn lines in C4/Circulation.pm print to stdout?/ |
| 09:34 | chris | stderr |
| 09:35 | the ones that have $debug && warn etc | |
| 09:35 | (which they should all have there should not be any unqualified warns) | |
| 09:38 | kmkale | not getting any warn line in the terminal even after exporting KOHA_DEBUG=1 :( |
| 09:43 | the test is just throwing back my input as the output and ofcourse fails. any suggestions for debugging? | |
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| 09:45 | chris | hmm the warns seem to work for me |
| 09:45 | * chris | has to go to sleep soon, but i can look again tomorrow |
| 09:46 | hdl | sleep well |
| 09:46 | kmkale | thanks chris. |
| 09:46 | good night | |
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| 11:13 | kmkale | @weather |
| 11:13 | munin | kmkale: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city. |
| 11:14 | kmkale | @weather Mumbai |
| 11:14 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 28.0�C (4:10 PM IST on November 22, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:15 | magnus | @weather bodo, norway |
| 11:15 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0�C (11:50 AM CET on November 22, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -1.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:30 | chris_n` is now known as chris_n | |
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| 11:56 | kf | hi magnus :) |
| 12:07 | j | |
| 12:13 | chris_n: around? | |
| 12:15 | kmkale | @later tell chris I got the test thing sorted out. Thanks |
| 12:15 | munin | kmkale: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:18 | kf | kmkale: good idea :) |
| 12:18 | @later tell chris_n restested patron import, looks good, comment see bug :) | |
| 12:18 | munin | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:22 | kmkale | :) |
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| 13:36 | magnus | hiya schuster |
| 13:39 | kmkale | @roulette |
| 13:39 | kmkale was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
| 13:39 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
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| 13:46 | magnus | wow, munin is in a bit of a mood today? |
| 14:02 | kf | @roulette |
| 14:02 | munin | kf: *click* |
| 14:02 | kf | it's monday... |
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| 14:04 | ebegin | good morning |
| 14:13 | magnus | g'day ebegin |
| 14:14 | ebegin | It's a cold rainy day today overhere :( |
| 14:14 | @wonder montreal, canada | |
| 14:14 | munin | ebegin: Error: "wonder" is not a valid command. |
| 14:14 | ebegin | @wunder montreal, canada |
| 14:14 | munin | ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 4.0�C (9:00 AM EST on November 22, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:15 | magnus | @wunder bodo, norway |
| 14:15 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0�C (2:50 PM CET on November 22, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Windchill: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:16 | magnus | a bit of rain here too, but after 2 weeks of -3, +2 seems mild... ;-) |
| 14:18 | ebegin | :) |
| 14:18 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 14:18 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0�C (3:00 PM CET on November 22, 2010). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:19 | kf | getting colder, but still not really cold |
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| 14:20 | ebegin | I think that the fact that we had a nice summer is harder to get near the 0°C |
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| 14:27 | kmkale | @weather Mumbai |
| 14:27 | munin | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 27.0�C (7:10 PM IST on November 22, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:27 | kmkale | :( |
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| 14:32 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
| 14:32 | magnus | kia ora, jcamins |
| 14:33 | Nate | Hiya jcamins |
| 14:33 | and MAGNUS! | |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Welcome back, Nate. |
| 14:33 | Nate | thank you sir! |
| 14:34 | magnus | hi Nate |
| 14:34 | Nate | :) |
| 14:34 | magnus | how'd it go? |
| 14:36 | Nate | It went great! I am an engaged man |
| 14:36 | I took an opportunity when she set up the camera to take a picture of us on the auto timer | |
| 14:36 | magnus | ooh, congratulations! |
| 14:37 | jcamins | Congratulations! |
| 14:37 | Nate | and when she ran over for the pic i dropped to a knee and took out the ring |
| 14:37 | magnus | hehe |
| 14:37 | Nate | unfortunately the camera didnt take the picture |
| 14:37 | ebegin | Nate: Share the picture... |
| 14:37 | Doh! | |
| 14:37 | magnus | oh no! |
| 14:37 | stupid camera! | |
| 14:37 | Nate | yeah, but we staged another shot |
| 14:38 | ebegin | Ah! So you can share the picture ;) |
| 14:38 | Nate | i dont have the pic from the camera yet because there are so many and we have not gone through them yet |
| 14:38 | magnus | tell me about it... ;-) |
| 14:38 | Nate | let me see if i can fish it out though, if she didnt take the camera with her to work |
| 14:38 | jcamins | Nate: that was clever. I proposed to my wife by turning to her and saying "hey, let's get engaged now," so we don't have any pictures to remember it by. |
| 14:39 | magnus | and where did it happen? |
| 14:39 | * magnus | was proposed to by his wife... ;-) |
| 14:40 | owen-away is now known as owen | |
| 14:40 | Nate | yeah she took the camera to work |
| 14:40 | but when i get the pic ill be sure to share! | |
| 14:40 | I did it in Marlborough wine country | |
| 14:41 | while we were biking through the vineyard | |
| 14:41 | s | |
| 14:41 | yeah you two got off easy, carrying that ring around was pretty stressful! | |
| 14:42 | magnus | :-) |
| 14:42 | marlborough looks nice, judging by the first pics to show up on teh googlz | |
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| 14:44 | jcamins | Nate: I found shopping for the ring with my wife pretty stressful! |
| 14:44 | Nate | I hear that |
| 14:44 | and when I proposed she didnt even look at the ring!!! | |
| 14:45 | she just jumped all over me like i was a jungle gym, and I had to shove it in her face and be like "look what i got you!!" | |
| 14:45 | but i guess thats a good thing :) | |
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| 14:46 | jcamins | :) |
| 14:46 | Good morning, sekjal. | |
| 14:46 | magnus | :-) |
| 14:46 | hiya sekjal | |
| 14:46 | sekjal | morning, jcamins & magnus! |
| 14:46 | Nate | I also had to make sure i did it before to much of the wine tasting had taken place :) |
| 14:47 | jcamins | Probably wise. |
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| 14:47 | Nate | I can see the NZ headlines now..."American couple gets arrested for contaminating a wine cask while skinny dipping in it" |
| 14:48 | * sekjal | blinks |
| 14:49 | jcamins | Fortunately for you, stuff.co.nz is an excellent news source, so it would be all over the world in the blink of an eye. :) |
| 14:49 | Nate | caught the end of that one Sekjal.. |
| 14:49 | sekjal | Nate: yeah, firing up the logs now... |
| 14:50 | jcamins | Incidentally, speaking of photos, we finally got our wedding photos. Very exciting. |
| 14:51 | hdl | hi sekjal |
| 14:51 | sekjal | hi, hdl! |
| 14:51 | hdl | congrats Nate |
| 14:51 | Nate | thanks hdl! |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | grats killa ;) |
| 14:52 | Nate | thanks wizzyrea! |
| 14:52 | jcamins | Nate: I learned a valuable lesson about photographers- if you hire one, make sure you keep on them to actually *send* the photos. Otherwise, it can drag out. A lot. |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | but you've only been married what, 2 months? |
| 14:52 | Nate | how long ago did you get married? |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | that's fast for most wedding photogs :P |
| 14:52 | jcamins | August 27. |
| 14:53 | Nate | Congrats on the wedding! :)] |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | aw, your anniversary is the day after my birthday! |
| 14:53 | jcamins | wizzyrea: they're digital photos. All she had to do was burn them onto a CD. |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | even so lol |
| 14:54 | jcamins | Well, it felt like a long time to us. ;) |
| 15:00 | wizzyrea | ah yea, waiting is the hardest part |
| 15:00 | and good morning | |
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| 15:01 | kf | hi wizzyrea |
| 15:01 | grats Nate :) | |
| 15:01 | jcamins | Good morning. |
| 15:02 | Nate | Thanks kf! |
| 15:02 | Katipo | indeed grats nate |
| 15:02 | Katipo is now known as trea | |
| 15:03 | Nate | thanks trea |
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| 15:04 | jcamins | By the way, I trust everyone has seen the extranormal library school videos? |
| 15:04 | magnus | huh? |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | send me |
| 15:04 | jcamins | I'll take that as a no. |
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| 15:06 | jcamins | Part 1: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7469129/ and part 2: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7752769/ |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | jcamins: at our tech day in early august I demo'd xtranormal for our librarians |
| 15:06 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I remember. That's why I thought of you when I was watching. |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 15:06 | nice | |
| 15:09 | oo, xtranormal just timed out | |
| 15:10 | You will live on gin and valium, and when you run out of them, you will run on spite. | |
| 15:10 | classic. | |
| 15:10 | trea | uh, what? |
| 15:10 | lols | |
| 15:11 | jcamins | trea: library school. :D |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | jcamins: lol, wow. |
| 15:12 | magnus | hee hee |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | hate hate, hate hate hate |
| 15:12 | trea | "have you ever been shanked with a pair of safety scissors?" |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | …totally classic. |
| 15:13 | jcamins | I thought it would be appreciated. |
| 15:13 | trea | it is |
| 15:19 | jcamins | I think I may freeze to death on this unseasonably warm November day. |
| 15:21 | The air conditioning is at gale force. | |
| 15:22 | magnus | jcamins: oh no! find something combustible and make fire, quick! |
| 15:22 | s/fire/a fire/ | |
| 15:22 | jcamins | magnus: fortunate I'm in a library with lots of books, isn't it? |
| 15:23 | magnus | yeah, they should keep you warm for a while! |
| 15:24 | kf | chris_n: around? |
| 15:39 | he is hiding from me | |
| 15:39 | hm, and druthb is hiding too | |
| 15:44 | jcamins | kf: I'm here, though. |
| 15:44 | And looking forward to reading your analytics RFC. :) | |
| 15:44 | (kf hides under the desk?) | |
| 15:46 | kf | yep |
| 15:46 | it's still a draft :( | |
| 15:46 | I will try to work on it later - still at work and draft is on laptop at home | |
| 15:47 | jcamins | Take your time. |
| 15:48 | * jcamins | tries to coax kf, chris_n, and druthb out with some msemmen with nutella. |
| 15:49 | magnus | mm, that sounds delicious... |
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| 15:50 | * jcamins | offers some to magnus, since it seems that kf, chris_n, and druthb would rather hide than have msemmen with nutella. |
| 15:50 | magnus | i don't know much about msemmen, but i'll definitely try some |
| 15:51 | trea | is that like a moroccan griddle cake? |
| 15:51 | Ahouifi M'semmen? | |
| 15:53 | jcamins | trea: yep. |
| 15:53 | trea | that does sound amazing |
| 15:53 | jwagner | druthb had an appointment and will be late today. I'm sure she'd welcome some goodies then. |
| 15:53 | jcamins | jwagner: oh, she's not hiding from kf? |
| 15:53 | jwagner | probably hiding from me :-( |
| 15:54 | * jwagner | has every intention of making druthb's life miserable as soon as she shows up :-) |
| 15:54 | jcamins | trea: I still have not mastered the art of the msemmen, but one day-- |
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| 15:55 | owen | Oh man are we talking about food already? |
| 15:56 | trea | yea, once i heard nutella was involved |
| 15:56 | * owen | can't keep nutella in the house for fear of overdosing |
| 15:56 | jcamins | I've been told the gale noise is because "I got steeeeam heat." |
| 15:57 | * magnus | is going to make pizza soon.. |
| 15:57 | * sekjal | is planning a Thanksgiving pizza for this Thursday |
| 15:58 | jcamins | magnus: what recipe do you use? |
| 15:58 | * jcamins | still hasn't perfected his pizza |
| 15:59 | * magnus | has made two small pizzas every week for the last 10 years and thinks they are pretty perfected by now (at least according to his own tastes)... ;-) |
| 16:00 | jcamins | Every week? Wow! Those must be pretty perfect pizzas! |
| 16:01 | magnus | :-) |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Is the recipe a family secret? |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | is anybody familiar with the "ReservesControlBranch" syspref? |
| 16:03 | I think I get what it does, but I'm a little confused. | |
| 16:03 | magnus | jcamins: nah, but it's just in my head... i'll write it down for you |
| 16:03 | jcamins | magnus++ # for open sourcing his perfect pizza recipe |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | magnus++ |
| 16:04 | might as well make a wiki category for food. | |
| 16:04 | magnus | ooh, thanks |
| 16:04 | hehe "koha food"? cool! | |
| 16:04 | trea | indeed, we have quite a few recipes we could contribute |
| 16:04 | jcamins | Bug 5158 hasn't been resolved yet. |
| 16:04 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5, ---, camins, ASSIGNED, Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors |
| 16:04 | sekjal | I think recipes would go well into a Koha Kete install |
| 16:04 | trea | brilliant |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | truf |
| 16:05 | magnus | sekjal: i was thinking the same thing... |
| 16:05 | trea | sekjal++ |
| 16:06 | sekjal | wizzyrea: that syspref is called once, in C4::Reserves, in the CanItemBeReserved() subroutine |
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| 16:07 | wizzyrea | i'm trying to imagine what ramifications that has on a setup like ours, where we have lots of local hold/no hold rules |
| 16:07 | these rules may translate better in koha proper. | |
| 16:09 | sekjal | changing it will change the issuing rule that is returned, if the patron doing the reserving isn't doing it at the items home library |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | sekjal: aha. I think I am going to have to get very snuggly with the rules |
| 16:10 | because I sense that our current rules won't translate the way we intend them to | |
| 16:11 | sekjal | for multi-library installs, it may become necessary to split the 'branchcode' factor of the issuing rules into 'item branch' and 'patron branch' |
| 16:11 | making it a four field combination to unlock the rules | |
| 16:11 | which is all kinds of uglier | |
| 16:11 | wizzyrea | :( and believe me when I say: we've got ugly. |
| 16:12 | we might be able to simplify though (maybe) | |
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| 16:12 | sekjal | maybe there is a way to abstract the rules up one more level.... so any item or patron fields can be factored into the rule-making |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | so, the l18n/l10N prefs are all to do with language: why don't we call it "Language" or "Internationalization" |
| 16:13 | or something | |
| 16:14 | sekjal | sounds good to me.... would be an easy patch to write up |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | I mean, this makes sense now that I've read the wikipedia article. But I don't like that it's so obtuse. |
| 16:16 | Localisation would also be a good one | |
| 16:16 | magnus | because "I18N/L10N" sounds much more 1337? |
| 16:16 | wizzyrea | tewtally 1337 |
| 16:17 | aha, I see why they did it this way | |
| 16:17 | < still reading the wikipedia article | |
| 16:17 | because you can set it up to be localised, multilingualised, OR internationalised. | |
| 16:17 | hrmph. | |
| 16:18 | it's still geek-speak. | |
| 16:18 | magnus | and it's short enough to fit on the "tab" |
| 16:19 | wizzyrea | Globalisation |
| 16:19 | The terms are frequently abbreviated to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numeronym i18n (where 18 stands for the number of letters between the first i and last n in internationalization | |
| 16:19 | jcamins | Pre-globalized for the non-USians. :) |
| 16:19 | wizzyrea | and L10n respectively, due to the length of the words. The capital L in L10n helps to distinguish it from the lowercase i in i18n. |
| 16:20 | is that really common usage and I live under a rock? | |
| 16:20 | magnus | i've seen it around, but not that much |
| 16:20 | owen | It's v2y c4n u3e |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | hehe owen |
| 16:21 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I've heard it a lot, although I didn't realize that L10n had to be capitalized. |
| 16:21 | What's u3e? | |
| 16:21 | owen | u+sag+e |
| 16:22 | jcamins | Ah, thanks. |
| 16:22 | owen | Next we'll do the Junior Jumble |
| 16:22 | wizzyrea | >.< |
| 16:24 | kf | msemmen? |
| 16:24 | * kf | woke up |
| 16:25 | jcamins | http://moroccanfood.about.com/[…]Msemen_recipe.htm |
| 16:25 | I used a different recipe, but I don't remember which one. | |
| 16:27 | I like that one better though, I think. | |
| 16:28 | It has much better instructions for folding the msemmen. | |
| 16:28 | magnus | could it be http://www.grouprecipes.com/54[…]-flaky-bread.html ? |
| 16:28 | jcamins | magnus: yeah, that's the one. |
| 16:29 | Is this one of those "Google provides different results at different computers" issues? | |
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| 16:29 | magnus | nah, it's a "search the irc log" issue ;-) |
| 16:29 | hiya druthb | |
| 16:29 | druthb | hi, magnus! :) |
| 16:29 | jcamins | magnus: ah, right. |
| 16:30 | * jcamins | gives druthb the promised msemmen with nutella |
| 16:31 | * kf | looks at jcamins with big eyes |
| 16:31 | * jcamins | thought that kf had taken hers already |
| 16:31 | druthb | mmmmm... |
| 16:31 | * jcamins | gives kf the poor neglected msemmen |
| 16:32 | * druthb | will share with kf! |
| 16:33 | kf | yay :) |
| 16:33 | druthb: and I will share mine with you :) | |
| 16:33 | druthb | okay. :) |
| 16:33 | kf | fair, right? :) |
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| 16:34 | druthb | Absolutely! |
| 16:40 | * jwagner | notes druthb's arrival and prepares for the "make your life miserable" session :-) |
| 16:41 | * druthb | narrows her eyes, watching jwagner intently. |
| 16:42 | jwagner | heh heh heh |
| 16:47 | druthb | jwagner, you're going to have to work really hard to make my life miserable today. Not a bad day at all, for a Monday. |
| 16:48 | magnus | yay! |
| 16:52 | schuster | Wishes he had sent them skittles to toss back and forth over the cubicle. |
| 16:55 | * druthb | would have to get a nuclear peashooter or something; two thin walls between her office and jwagner's. |
| 16:56 | * jwagner | believes I am fully capable of making druthb's life miserable, even today :-) |
| 17:00 | * magnus | wanders off to make pizza |
| 17:00 | magnus left #koha | |
| 17:00 | kf | magnus: it's not pizza friday today? |
| 17:00 | oh, he is gone | |
| 17:01 | time to go home for me too - see you later :) | |
| 17:01 | kf left #koha | |
| 17:02 | * druthb | will have to work harder than she has to make me miserable. She failed in her first attempt. |
| 17:02 | * jwagner | takes that as a challenge! |
| 17:04 | wizzyrea | wowie |
| 17:06 | jwagner | I'm grumpy today so I'm determined to spread the lack of cheer :-) |
| 17:06 | * druthb | waves cheerfully to wizzyrea. |
| 17:07 | * wizzyrea | waves |
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| 17:08 | wizzyrea | ooh, I was naughty. |
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| 17:26 | * druthb | velcroes wizzyrea to her seat. |
| 17:26 | wizzyrea | whew. |
| 17:28 | schuster | anybody seen this google refine? nifty data manipulation tool http://goo.gl/Q2RWw |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | I saw a post about it, but didn't have a chance to play with it. it's spanky new. |
| 17:29 | at least to google. | |
| 17:31 | seems like it would be handy for cleaning up bib data | |
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| 17:34 | LBA | Good Morning, Koha. 16 rural librarians getting a Koha lesson right now! |
| 17:34 | wizzyrea | Good morning, librarians! |
| 17:34 | owen | Hi librarians! |
| 17:34 | * trea | waves |
| 17:34 | * druthb | waves to the librarians. |
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| 17:35 | jcamins | Hello, librarians. |
| 17:37 | schuster | GO KOHA! It's great once you get used to how it works! |
| 17:37 | sorry Koha! | |
| 17:37 | I was shouting... | |
| 17:37 | wizzyrea | hehe |
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| 17:39 | cait | hi #koha :) |
| 17:39 | druthb | welcome back, cait. :) |
| 17:39 | trea | o/ |
| 17:50 | LBA | cool. sharing your hellos with the group! |
| 17:51 | cait | hm? |
| 17:52 | jcamins | cait: LBA is training sixteen rural librarians. |
| 17:52 | cait | oh |
| 17:52 | are we supposed to do something? | |
| 17:52 | * cait | is a bad actor :) |
| 17:53 | owen | Perhaps a little dance, a quick song? |
| 17:53 | cait | you can go first :) |
| 17:53 | jcamins | A little gossip, a little chat, a little idle talk of this and that? |
| 17:53 | owen | The least we could do is look busy |
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| 17:54 | * jcamins | is recataloging a half century worth of Standard Catalogs. Very busy. |
| 17:55 | cait | cookies? |
| 17:55 | * druthb | perks up. Cookies? |
| 17:56 | cait | it's only the real #koha if someone mentions cookies, fudge or ice cream |
| 17:56 | jcamins | Or brownies. |
| 17:57 | wizzyrea | ohh, that's neat, OpacPasswordChange |
| 17:57 | made of win. | |
| 17:57 | sekjal | brownie-cookie-fudge ice cream? |
| 17:58 | jcamins | Speaking of food, lunch time! |
| 17:58 | jcamins is now known as jcamins_l | |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea is now known as wizzy_l | |
| 17:58 | cait | sekjal: you should add that to my favourite bug |
| 17:59 | owen | wizzy_l: You didn't have OpacPasswordChange? |
| 18:00 | wizzy_l | I may, but I've never seen it before I guess |
| 18:03 | sekjal is now known as sekjal_a | |
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| 18:12 | jcamins_l is now known as jcamins | |
| 18:18 | jwagner | OpacPasswordChange has been around for quite a while -- well over a year at least |
| 18:23 | gmcharlt | jcamins: if they're standard catalogs, why do they need to be recatalogued? |
| 18:24 | ... ok, that was a very weak pun indeed | |
| 18:24 | * jcamins | winces |
| 18:25 | jcamins | Also, in this library... "standard" == "scary" |
| 18:25 | LBA | can anyone tell me what setting controls whether a patron search looks through all branches or just the local branch? |
| 18:25 | jcamins | LBA: SearchMyLibraryFirst |
| 18:26 | LBA | thanks! |
| 18:26 | gmcharlt | and IndependantBranches |
| 18:27 | LBA | SearchMyLibraryFirst is for searching material not patrons, it seems. I want to look up Patrons systemwide by default instead of having to dropdown and choose All. |
| 18:28 | cait | LBA: that's a bug |
| 18:28 | jcamins | LBA: oh, sorry. |
| 18:28 | I thought you meant "a patron's search." | |
| 18:28 | cait | I have not checkeed if there is a patch yet |
| 18:29 | LBA | thanks, cait. So, no way to change this at this behavior at this time? |
| 18:30 | cait | perhaps with jquery |
| 18:32 | can't find the right bug number :( | |
| 18:32 | owen | Bug 4945 |
| 18:32 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4945 major, P5, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW, Patron search is limited by default to the currently logged-in library |
| 18:32 | LBA | okay, thanks. Good for now! |
| 18:37 | * chris | waves from the bus |
| 18:40 | cait | hi chris |
| 18:40 | schuster | Wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round... couldn't resist its been that kind of day. |
| 18:44 | chris | :) |
| 18:46 | cait | why did I buy a coconut? |
| 18:46 | I have no idea how to open it :) | |
| 18:47 | chris | Hammer |
| 18:47 | What I do | |
| 18:47 | Get a clean nail | |
| 18:47 | Make some holes | |
| 18:47 | * cait | makes notes |
| 18:47 | chris | Drain the milk |
| 18:47 | Then put it on some concrete and gave it a good whack | |
| 18:48 | cait | will try it |
| 18:48 | chris | Give even |
| 18:48 | cait | good idea to get the milk out |
| 18:48 | and I even own a hammer and nails :) | |
| 18:48 | chris++ | |
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| 18:52 | chris | You can just throw it hard against concrete |
| 18:52 | That's messy tho :) | |
| 18:52 | Kmkale is on the way to winning best patch of the month | |
| 18:53 | Good commit message, bug number, good inline docs and a unit test! | |
| 18:53 | Making_my_life_easier++ | |
| 18:56 | * druthb | used a big bandsaw on a coconut once. |
| 18:58 | chris | Heh that'd work too |
| 18:58 | cait | my landlord probably already things I am gone crazy |
| 18:58 | the nail holes are too small | |
| 18:58 | * druthb | spent the two hours afterwards cleaning coconut milk and meat out of the works of the bandsaw... |
| 18:58 | chris | Hehe |
| 18:58 | cait | hehe |
| 18:58 | chris | Yeah you want a big nail |
| 18:59 | Or an old screwdriver you don't care about wrecking | |
| 18:59 | druthb | I cleaned the saw out first, and washed and sanitized a new band blade...but the blade hauled a lot of stuff out of there, and flung it around inside the saw. |
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| 18:59 | chris | Messy |
| 18:59 | druthb | somewhat, yes. |
| 19:00 | chris | I like the milk the best, so try to get that out :) |
| 19:01 | cait | got it :) |
| 19:01 | yummy | |
| 19:02 | chris | Right my stop bbiab |
| 19:07 | cait | open! |
| 19:08 | chris | back |
| 19:09 | wizzy_l | chris: we were talking earlier about I13n/L10n syspref tag, I was wondering if that was extremely common usage that I just hadn't heard of, or if we should make the tag more clear |
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| 19:11 | * owen | was about to remind wizzyrea to come back from lunch before her 3rd martini |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | *hic* |
| 19:13 | chris | its common in comp sci |
| 19:13 | not so much out of it | |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | Aha. That's pretty close to what I suspected. |
| 19:14 | chris | if you and owen can use the full words and not make it look retarded, go for it :) |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | woot |
| 19:14 | * wizzyrea | tries to avoid making things look retarded. When possible. |
| 19:14 | chris | its just 2 big words to fit in that tab |
| 19:15 | gmcharlt | "Translation"? |
| 19:15 | not quite an exact fit, conceptually, but maybe close enough? | |
| 19:15 | chris | yeah, probably close enough for our purposes |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | I was thinking "Languages" |
| 19:15 | chris | and how was the concert? |
| 19:15 | gmcharlt | good |
| 19:16 | BBC concert orchestra | |
| 19:16 | wizzyrea | oooo |
| 19:16 | trea | nice |
| 19:16 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: and "Languages" works for me too |
| 19:16 | wizzyrea | Globalisation is another perhaps |
| 19:16 | languages avoids that whole s vs z thing | |
| 19:17 | owen | Weird question on the Koha list... "books on hold by other libraries" ? |
| 19:17 | druthb | languagez. |
| 19:17 | * wizzyrea | sighs |
| 19:17 | schuster | wheels |
| 19:17 | drat didn't want to do that... | |
| 19:17 | chris | what? |
| 19:17 | thats bizzare | |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | whoa |
| 19:18 | chris | someone want to take a crack and say, wow, never ever heard of that happening before, can you send a screen shot please |
| 19:18 | wizzyrea | did they maybe leave their staff side with no auth, and the libraries made themselves accounts? |
| 19:18 | chris | dunno |
| 19:18 | who are these other libraries? | |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | msg sent |
| 19:19 | chris | thanks |
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| 19:32 | * druthb | waves to Brooke. |
| 19:32 | Brooke | :) |
| 19:32 | * trea | waves |
| 19:32 | chris | hi Brooke |
| 19:33 | * Brooke | feels the love. |
| 19:33 | jcamins | Demo data? |
| 19:33 | That's beyond weird. | |
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| 19:33 | owen | Did the attachment come through for anyone? Not for me. |
| 19:34 | Brooke | wb sekjal |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | I don't see an attachment |
| 19:35 | jcamins | Hm, there's something that says there's an attachment. |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | oh wait |
| 19:35 | there's a TIFF | |
| 19:35 | jcamins | But all it says is "Attachment." |
| 19:35 | owen | I think that might be a Nabble attachement. You can see it here: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]535.html#a3275860 |
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| 19:35 | richard | hi |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | yea, it's a TIFF |
| 19:35 | owen | the emailer is confusing "Holdings" with "Holds" |
| 19:35 | Brooke | hi richard |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 19:36 | jcamins | Is that demo data? |
| 19:36 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 19:36 | chris | lol |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | it must be demo data |
| 19:37 | chris | yeah that explains it |
| 19:37 | yeah they have just loaded in the sample data, and then if you catalogue books, they are gonna end up in one of those branches | |
| 19:40 | * owen | cannot reproduce the errors described in Bug 5424 |
| 19:40 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5424 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Intranet interface references intranet/htdocs/opac-tmpl which does not exist |
| 19:41 | chris | yeah, im wondering if its something in their config |
| 19:41 | sekjal | grep cannot find such a reference anywhere in koha-tmpl |
| 19:41 | must be local to the config | |
| 19:42 | jcamins | owen: it's a missing syspref. |
| 19:42 | I noticed that but didn't have time to respond. | |
| 19:42 | At least, I think it is. | |
| 19:42 | Erase OPACBaseURL and see if you can replicate the error? | |
| 19:43 | (or maybe staffClientBaseURL... I'm not sure which) | |
| 19:43 | * owen | 's logs are full of "preferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value $text in pattern match (m//) " |
| 19:44 | jcamins | Also, one of the errors there is a missing Perl module. |
| 19:44 | Unfortunately, I couldn't figure out which. | |
| 19:45 | owen | I do get the Snowball.pm error: "addbooks.pl: Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/lib/perl5/Lingua/Stem/Snowball.pm line 55" |
| 19:45 | chris | thats a warn, not an error, annoying |
| 19:45 | but not always actually a problem | |
| 19:46 | we should definitely stop them in our code though | |
| 19:46 | owen | emptying OPACBaseURL doesn't make the errors appear |
| 19:46 | jcamins | owen: hm. We had a similar issue at first, but I don't remember what fixed it. |
| 19:47 | I thought it was OPACBaseURL. | |
| 19:47 | owen | jcamins: Do you have a standard or dev install? |
| 19:47 | jcamins | dev. |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | so who wants to answer "we think you're confusing holds and holdings" |
| 19:48 | * wizzyrea | will, but doesn't want to duplicate if someone's already typing |
| 19:48 | jcamins | But we managed to get it working right before transitioning to ByWater, and apparently it was something so simple that I didn't think it was worth noting. |
| 19:49 | That is, it worked properly before the transition. | |
| 19:49 | We got it working some months earlier. | |
| 19:49 | Very poor sentence. | |
| 19:51 | cait | chris_n: still hiding? |
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| 19:59 | Brooke | hi cfouts |
| 19:59 | cfouts | good day |
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| 20:05 | * druthb | waves, and leaves to catch her bus. |
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| 20:10 | cait1 | t |
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| 20:26 | * Brooke | waves at magnus and rhcl |
| 20:26 | magnus | hiya Brooke! |
| 20:26 | rhcl | hihi |
| 20:27 | * cait | waves at Brooke |
| 20:27 | owen | An idea for Bug 3988: |
| 20:27 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3988 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, New Sys Prefs Branch - Save Buttons under sections |
| 20:27 | owen | http://www.screencast.com/t/0abQk63wMo |
| 20:30 | Brooke | so the button will float instead of making me use precious finger muscles to scroll up or down? |
| 20:31 | magnus | looks good to me, owen |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | aha, I like that |
| 20:31 | chris | yep |
| 20:31 | * chris | too |
| 20:31 | jcamins | Nifty. |
| 20:32 | cait | owen: what happens if you search for something and you have prefs from a lot of tabs? |
| 20:32 | Brooke | I know that silver is a theme, but can ye make it green or blue so it still fits in, but its appearance is noticeable? |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | ohhhhhh |
| 20:32 | owen | cait: I think under those conditions I'll have to prevent it from appearing |
| 20:32 | cait | owen: I like it, just wondering :) |
| 20:32 | because I do that a lot ... and half of the time I miss a save button | |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | we already have a pref to send emails to the "first valid", why don't notices default to that |
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| 20:33 | wizzyrea | AutoEmailPrimaryAddress, why not make it "EmailPrimaryAddress" and make it work for all notices |
| 20:33 | jcamins | Is there a reason we don't use a "Save all preferences" button? |
| 20:34 | (I mean, in the situation that cait describes) | |
| 20:34 | owen | jcamins: I'm not sure that's possible. I'm not that familiar with the innards of the new preferences editor |
| 20:34 | * owen | may have to become so to get his idea working |
| 20:34 | cait | wizzyrea: I think it's a good idea to make it work for all notices |
| 20:35 | jcamins | owen: ah. That would explain it. |
| 20:35 | * jcamins | doesn't know anything about the new preferences editor. |
| 20:35 | * Brooke | wonders how big and scary an individual preference page will become if the magic button is added... |
| 20:35 | owen | Brooke: I don't understand |
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| 20:36 | Brooke | we're feature rich, which is good |
| 20:36 | chris | darling: sup! |
| 20:36 | darling | hey |
| 20:36 | Brooke | having a slew of features to set on one page = daunting. |
| 20:36 | jcamins | Brooke: but they're still there, just without a convenient save button? |
| 20:36 | Brooke | so it used to be annoying enough that when you had to scroll for a button, you guys would tab the page |
| 20:37 | jcamins | *. |
| 20:37 | Brooke | don't get me wrong I like the button |
| 20:37 | I just wonder what evil it will wreak ;) | |
| 20:37 | jcamins | Oh, I see what you're saying. |
| 20:37 | * wizzyrea | has seen much uglier preference panes in other software. This is downright pleasant to use. |
| 20:37 | * owen | remembers how the last button he added to Koha invaded Poland |
| 20:37 | * Brooke | laughs at owen |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | at least we got sausages out of the deal. |
| 20:38 | chris | owen: well to be fair, you did give it that stupid mustache |
| 20:38 | jcamins | Brooke: thanks for volunteering to make sure that no one preference tab gets too long! :D |
| 20:38 | chris | owen: that'd make anything angry |
| 20:38 | cait | ??? |
| 20:38 | * Brooke | laughs at chris |
| 20:39 | chris | cait: im not sure its worth trying to understand our jokes :) |
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| 20:39 | * cait | wonders why all people soudn like Brooke today |
| 20:39 | Brooke | cait: doing so will probably make you cross with us |
| 20:39 | jcamins | cait: it's Monday? |
| 20:39 | Brooke | <----- is contagious in bad ways. |
| 20:39 | jcamins | Well, except for in NZ. |
| 20:39 | * cait | goes to hide with laptop in bed |
| 20:41 | trea | lucky! |
| 20:43 | cait | hm... think I get part of it now |
| 20:45 | chris | does someone want to signoff on cait's patch for 5423 |
| 20:45 | cait | chris: if I wanted to write a test for my new routine (GetMarcControlnumber) - how can I provide a $record example? |
| 20:46 | chris | you might have to create one in the test |
| 20:46 | use MARC::Record; | |
| 20:46 | my $record = MARC::Record->new(); | |
| 20:47 | cait | but how do I fill it with data? |
| 20:48 | chris | well you could do a bunch of append_fields |
| 20:48 | or you could maybe make a file | |
| 20:48 | included with the test | |
| 20:48 | cait | chris: I think a test testing that borrowers and deletedborrowers have the same structure might be a good idea too - but no idea how to do that |
| 20:48 | chris | and create the marc record from that |
| 20:48 | with MARC::File::XML | |
| 20:49 | cait | hm |
| 20:49 | chris | http://search.cpan.org/~gmchar[…]/MARC/File/XML.pm |
| 20:49 | my $file = MARC::File::XML->in( $filename ); my $record = $file->next(); | |
| 20:50 | having some sample marc records for testing wouldnt hurt at all | |
| 20:50 | cait | ok |
| 20:50 | I will try it | |
| 20:51 | biblio.pm has only the use test right now | |
| 20:51 | chris | yeah more tests for that would be excellent |
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| 20:51 | magnus | cait: create a record: http://search.cpan.org/~gmchar[…]cord.pm#new%28%29 |
| 20:51 | cait: append fields: http://search.cpan.org/~gmchar[…]append_fields%28_@fields_%29 | |
| 20:51 | cait | I looked at overdues - but same problem there. was not sure how to test that without data from the database |
| 20:52 | chris | cait: you might need to look at the files in t/db_dependent |
| 20:52 | for how to do those type of tests | |
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| 20:52 | cait | ok |
| 20:52 | but I think for biblio.pm perhaps some files will be ok? | |
| 20:52 | chris | and putting some sample records in t/data/ seems like a good idea to me |
| 20:52 | yes | |
| 20:52 | for a lot of tests | |
| 20:53 | but quite a few try to check the db for frameworks etc | |
| 20:53 | but getting any tests is better than none | |
| 20:53 | meeting time bbiab | |
| 20:53 | cait | thx chris |
| 20:54 | and thx magnus | |
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| 20:56 | * Brooke | waves to hbankhead |
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| 21:18 | * Brooke | waves at pianohack |
| 21:18 | pianohack | Hallo brooke |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | Ph! |
| 21:18 | pianohack | hi liz |
| 21:18 | How are you guys? | |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | doin well, how's school? |
| 21:19 | cait | hi pianohack |
| 21:20 | pianohack | hi cait |
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| 21:32 | chris | heya pianohack |
| 21:32 | pianohack | hey chris |
| 21:32 | How's it going? | |
| 21:34 | chris | busy but good, and you? i see you got the job |
| 21:34 | pianohack | Yup |
| 21:34 | chris | cool :) |
| 21:35 | pianohack | Busy busy, but it's nice to have something outside of school |
| 21:35 | chris | *nod* |
| 21:35 | jcamins | pianohack: congratulations! |
| 21:35 | chris | some pocket money must be good too |
| 21:35 | pianohack | Very much |
| 21:35 | Brooke | oh congratulations :D |
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| 21:35 | pianohack | Trying to save most of it for tuition |
| 21:36 | Brooke | good thinking |
| 21:36 | pianohack | Trying to avoid as much student loans as I can, so I'll probably be working full-time over the summer |
| 21:36 | Brooke | despite working me nuts off in grad school it was worth having about 9k less in loans when I got out. |
| 21:36 | jcamins | student_loans-- |
| 21:36 | pianohack | student_loans-- |
| 21:36 | Brooke | student_loans-- |
| 21:36 | chris | yeah |
| 21:36 | pianohack | debt in general, but student loans add up fast |
| 21:37 | and the stuff they can do to collect in our wonderful country is _insane_ | |
| 21:37 | * chris | was lucky, no student loans for me |
| 21:37 | Brooke | *nod* |
| 21:37 | chris | pianohack: including calling nz, on xmas eve |
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| 21:37 | Brooke | if you get a gummint jorb, you can usually trick your employer into repaying for ye. |
| 21:37 | pianohack | chris: You were a reference? |
| 21:37 | chris | married to a debtor :) |
| 21:38 | well, its now paid off | |
| 21:38 | pianohack | oh, ouch |
| 21:38 | chris | but yeah, i read them the debt collection act |
| 21:38 | Brooke | gimme their address and I'll happily egg their agency for ye ;) |
| 21:38 | pianohack | Brooke: we'll see. It's a student position at the moment, which has upsides and downsides |
| 21:38 | Brooke | *nod* |
| 21:38 | chris | including the fact they cant do a thing until they send me a full invoice of all they say we owe |
| 21:38 | pianohack | They're very flexible about time off, but they can let me go if I so much as sneeze wrong |
| 21:38 | chris | they backed off |
| 21:39 | Brooke | the boy got his Controller's post from an internship |
| 21:39 | pianohack | chris: is this us or nz law? |
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| 21:39 | chris | us law, nz law was even stricter |
| 21:39 | pianohack | jcamins: Heh, yeah. I had to design my schedule next semester around work |
| 21:39 | chris: I think I should read this act too, sounds relevant to my interests :) | |
| 21:40 | chris | i did say "you are welcome to fly here and try to collect, otherwise, send me an invoice" |
| 21:40 | * Brooke | laughs at chris. |
| 21:40 | jcamins | Undergraduate wasn't quite so bad, as there were lots more classes on offer. |
| 21:40 | pianohack | (schedule involves me waking up at 8:00 am two days a week, which is... suboptimal for a teenage CS major) |
| 21:41 | chris | FDCPA pianohack |
| 21:41 | federal debt collection protection act | |
| 21:41 | was the one i read out to them | |
| 21:41 | pianohack | 28 pages? This doesn't look bad. |
| 21:41 | Good thing to sum up for my parents and whatnot | |
| 21:41 | chris | Within five days after the debtor is first contacted, the collector must send the debtor a written notice telling the debtor the amount of money they owe, the name of the creditor to whom the debtor owes the money, and what action to take if the debtor believes they do not owe the money. |
| 21:41 | pianohack | Just in case something goes wrong |
| 21:41 | chris | that bit |
| 21:42 | jcamins | chris: I hope they didn't call collect? |
| 21:42 | chris | stopped them trying to make me pay them on the phone |
| 21:42 | i mean wtf, they could be anyone | |
| 21:42 | nope :) | |
| 21:42 | pianohack | That would be scuzzy but believable |
| 21:43 | * jcamins | imagines reading a 28 page document to a collection agency that just made an international call to NZ and laughs evilly |
| 21:43 | cait | hehe |
| 21:43 | chris | i liked the, under section whatever paragraph whatever |
| 21:43 | it says | |
| 21:43 | jcamins | A collection agency tried to bully me into paying an old debt run up by the person who had my phone number a few years ago. |
| 21:43 | chris | i felt like a lawyer :) |
| 21:44 | jcamins | And on that cheerful note, time to close up. |
| 21:45 | Good night, #koha. | |
| 21:45 | chris | a lawyer with google |
| 21:45 | Brooke | night jared |
| 21:45 | I've always just said the powerful little "Do not make me call my attorney general." | |
| 21:46 | for years it was Spitzer, so that was all it took. | |
| 21:46 | LBA | If I want holds to be filled by one particular branch first and then it should randomly pull from the other branches, how do I modify the StaticHoldsQueueWeight setting? |
| 21:46 | pianohack | night jcamins |
| 21:47 | Hmm. I don't think Koha can do that, from what I remember of that code | |
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| 21:47 | LBA | So would have to include all branch codes in that field? |
| 21:47 | cait | LBA: I am not sure, but I thin it will take a list of branchcodes |
| 21:47 | I have read about it, but never tried it | |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | it takes a list of branchcodes |
| 21:48 | cait | perhaps someone can look at the code - I am not sure if you have to add all |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | comma separated |
| 21:48 | cait | liz - always rescueing me :) |
| 21:48 | LBA | I know I can list all branches codes and it will prioritize pulling holds in that order. |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | but, I don't think it will do what you want specifically |
| 21:48 | LBA | BUT, was hoping it would randomize all those except the first one. |
| 21:49 | pianohack | good lord, this law. "8 o'clock antimeridian"? AFAIK, that's both wrong _and_ verbose |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | …shouldn't that be an 'e' |
| 21:50 | ante<- | |
| 21:51 | Brooke | wizzy, you don't wanna know what changing an e on a law form entails. |
| 21:51 | pianohack | I think so. Would you even spell it out like that? |
| 21:51 | * wizzyrea | knows, is sufficiently frightened. |
| 21:53 | cait | hm sleepy |
| 21:53 | bye all :) | |
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| 21:57 | Brooke | d'oh stupid alt tab preventing me from saying gnight |
| 22:05 | LBA | If I set "AutomaticItemReturn to "Don't" automatically transfer items to their home branch when they are returned...isn't that essentially telling the system you want to implement floating collections. Where they are returned is where they should stay? Or am I misunderstanding that setting. |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | I believe you are interpreting that correctly, yes |
| 22:06 | pianohack | Yeah, sounds right |
| 22:07 | Brooke | LBA, were you looking for RandomizeHoldsQueueWeight earlier by chance? |
| 22:07 | LBA | brooke, yes. |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | I dont think it does what she wants though |
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| 22:09 | LBA | I just tested the "Don't" automatically return and when I checked in the item, the system wanted me to send it back home (which I didn't want) and it also showed it had a hold to fill at yet a different location. |
| 22:09 | So, seems like it didn't "take"? | |
| 22:10 | chris | no it took all right |
| 22:10 | it asked you | |
| 22:10 | with automatic return, it doesnt ask | |
| 22:10 | it initiates a transfer automatically | |
| 22:10 | LBA | ah |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | that seems like right behavior |
| 22:10 | chris | if its asking you, do you want to transfer, then its not automatically doing it |
| 22:11 | LBA | got it. okay to that one. |
| 22:11 | wizzyrea | did it pop you a "transfer home" and a "send on" window? |
| 22:11 | just curious what version you're working with | |
| 22:11 | chris | we could make another setting |
| 22:11 | never transfer | |
| 22:11 | LBA | wizzyrea, yes. but when I said please no. It seemed also to disregard the hold that was next in line to be filled at a different location. |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | yea, I wonder if that hold is now abandoned. |
| 22:12 | LBA | 3.01.00.145 |
| 22:12 | I can check. stand by. | |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | do you have another copy of that same title to check in? |
| 22:12 | chris | hmm thats a fairly old version too |
| 22:13 | (at least pre 3.2.0) | |
| 22:14 | i dont remember any transfers/holds changes between then and now tho, not any ones that were big enough to recall | |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | some bug fixes though |
| 22:15 | cfouts | anyone here experienced memory leaks in MARC::Record? |
| 22:15 | LBA | ByWater hosted...so could it be later version that it says in About? |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea, yes, will try to check in another copy of that title | |
| 22:16 | chris | nope, they probably are running the rc |
| 22:17 | LBA | wizzyrea, I checked in another copy of title and it did trigger hold as desired |
| 22:18 | Seems like it should have triggered the hold on the previous item that got returned but it didn't. | |
| 22:21 | * Brooke | is off to pick up the little mister at the airport. |
| 22:22 | Brooke | I'll not be on too terribly much for a bit since I'll be attempting not to slaughter my sisters for a few days. |
| 22:22 | wizzyrea | nope, it always triggers for the item in hand |
| 22:22 | (correct) | |
| 22:22 | meaning, that's correct behaviour | |
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| 23:18 | cfouts | found it. Another danger of memoize(): memory leaks. |
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| 23:59 | * LBA | waves goodnight and says thanks for the help |
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