IRC log for #koha, 2010-11-07

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01:17 chris_n @wunder 28334
01:17 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 3.1�C (9:29 PM EDT on November 06, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from 2 am to 8 am EST Sunday...
01:31 brendan_l @wunder 93117
01:31 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.3�C (6:44 PM PDT on November 06, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady).
01:31 brendan_l I'd be surprised to see a Freeze warning here ;)
02:11 Brooke stupid colloquy didn't bounce on meh
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02:32 Brooke ahoy hoy
02:32 wizzyrea_ hiyas
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03:58 wizzyrea_ @later tell nengard http://www.koha-community.org/[…]koha3-2manual.pdf
03:58 munin wizzyrea_: The operation succeeded.
04:24 bigbrovar Hi guys I am trying to setup koha 3.2 on debian following this wiki http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ebian#Quick_Start .  am told to edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf which does not exist.
04:25 robin bigbrovar: yeah, that's something I was trying to fix in hackfest weekend, but didn't get enough time for :/
04:26 I'll send you an example
04:26 bigbrovar Thanks :)
04:27 robin http://pastebin.com/zaYHSebx
04:27 ^-- bigbrovar
04:29 bigbrovar robin: so I would create a /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf  file and populate it with the info you posted?
04:30 robin yep
04:31 anything else you find, be sure to update the wiki with. The packages still need a lot of polish that I hope to find some time for in the near future.
04:32 bigbrovar would it be easier to just install koha from source? that was what I did when I installed the current koha 3.0 which is running pretty well
04:32 I am just thinking of migrating us to 3.2
04:33 will sure update the wiki when am done
04:33 robin I'm not sure, I focus on the packages as that's what we run here, but we have a handful of custom addons that glue it all together.
04:34 So it's only been relatively recently that I've been testing the packages without those addons in order to get them more useful for people at large.
04:34 wizzyrea_ bigbrovar: the packages are very new, it may be easier for you to install the "old" way
04:34 well, not easier, but at least familiar
04:35 robin that's a good point.
04:35 wizzyrea_ i can'tfreakingwait until the packages are matured to where it's really sudo apt-get install koha
04:35 bigbrovar hmmm
04:36 robin I very nearly have it so installing the koha package has a koha instance just spring up and everything works, but after the hackfest we ended up so busy catching up that I haven't had time to finish that work.
04:36 bigbrovar well I am already kneel deep into this one already
04:36 wizzyrea_ robin: that's so super great
04:36 bigbrovar It would be easier to see this through and see where it leads documenting and improving the wiki all the way. than go and start from stratch
04:37 robin bigbrovar: if you do, that would be great :) anything that seems like a bug, feel free to make a ticket on it too. Anything filed under the 'packaging' section goes to me.
04:37 bigbrovar ok
05:02 robin:  Iam done setting up koha (or I should think) following the readme in /usr/share/doc/koha/README.Debian and  am now on the koha installer webpage.  I just need some clearification concerning this part of the wiki  which talks about using the koha-create script. should I do that before completing the installtion from localhost:8080 ?
05:03 robin if you're on the installer webpage, you don't need to use koha-create.
05:04 bigbrovar thanks
05:06 robin:  one more thing (I am really trying to do it right :) ) according to the wiki the koha-create script "create a new koha catalogue called 'mylibrary', create and populate the database for it, set up zebra, and configure Apache appropriately"  I hope the installer webpage does same in other words there is are no advantage to using the script over the installer webpage?
05:07 robin in your case, that's correct.
05:07 I also need to clarify that, as it's the case that if you provide a default .sql for the database, then the scripts can use that, but if you don't, then it'll run through the web installer.
05:08 bigbrovar Thanks very much ..
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05:31 cait hi #koha
05:32 robin hi
05:35 cait hi robin :)
05:35 it's still sunday for you, right?
05:36 robin yep
05:36 I'm trying to make some stuff work before it's monday.
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05:44 cait good luck :)
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05:46 robin ta, almost done
05:46 heh: "Unknown language: Latim"
05:46 yes, I can see that being wrong.
05:49 cait heh
05:50 you never know, koha is translated to a lot of languages I never heard of before
05:51 robin that might be true, although I'm not aware of a Latin translation, let alone the little-known sibling language, "Latim."
05:53 chris i still need to get brian's friend to do the klingon Opac
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05:56 cait yeah, that would be really cool
05:56 is there a way I can send a patch file with git-email as attachment? or make it stop about a too long line another way?
05:57 I have fixed the references to koha.org in various files
05:58 robin cait: what is it complaining about?
05:59 you can attach the patch file to an email, but I'm curious to see why git-email is unhappy.
06:00 cait I will use the web client
06:00 chris it doesnt like lines that are too long
06:00 for patches like that, i send a pull request
06:00 which you can do, now you have a public repo :0
06:00 :)
06:01 cait fatal: 0001-Bug-5370-Fix-references-to-​koha.org-and-other-old-we.patch: 25: patch contains a line longer than 998 characters
06:01 warning: no patches were sent
06:01 chris... urgs :)
06:01 ok, I can try to do that, have to look at my notes first
06:02 I think the problem is caused by the sql files - I fixed the example news links
06:02 and the statements are all in one line
06:03 chris yeah
06:04 robin ah right
06:05 cait chris: ok, I have a branch now in my public repo (https://github.com/kfischer/Ko[…]ts/5370_koha.org) how do I make the pull request?
06:07 chris ahh
06:07 2 secs
06:08 cait hm?
06:08 a lot of aahs :)
06:09 chris git.koha-community is your origin eh?
06:09 cait yes
06:09 robin chris: while you're here, any idea why: delete from biblio join items on biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber where ccode='Actinidia'; doesn't work? The equivalent select seems to.
06:09 cait and github is github
06:10 * cait wonders if you can make a join in a delete - never tried that
06:11 robin it doesn't like the syntax of the join.
06:11 so maybe you can't, which would be a pain.
06:12 maybe I need to make it into a select and apply that to the delete
06:12 can't do that either. May need a temp table.
06:13 cait I have no data in my database to try it
06:13 is it a one time thing?
06:14 chris try this cait
06:15 robin yeah, I'm trying to delete some stuff I just imported, and they all have a unique ccode in the items table, but I want to delete the biblios.
06:16 cait and keep the items?
06:16 you could get the biblio numbers first and build a sql statement with that
06:17 we did that in horizon sometimes, so that the result of the query were delete statements for every number we needed, because some things allowed only deleting of one line at a time
06:17 robin no, delete the items too, but that'll happen automatically
06:17 cait chris: you ok?
06:18 chris no, i have children
06:18 cait ah,make sure you have not checked out something
06:18 robin chris: was just about to say that :)
06:18 cait but you have cute children, could be worse :)
06:18 robin there we go:
06:18 create temporary table to_delete as select biblio.biblionumber from biblio join items on biblio.biblionumber=items.biblionumber where ccode='Actinidia';
06:19 cait issues and old_issues will not get deleted
06:19 chris just send an email, saying Pull Request
06:19 then in the body
06:19 put
06:19 robin cait: that's OK, this is a database for migration testing, but currently I have two different sources in it.
06:19 chris git://github.com/kfischer/Koha.git
06:19 branch 5370_koha.org
06:20 that'll work just fine
06:20 cait robin: ust a warning :) because I ended up with itemnumber = null a lot of times and had to delete them to clean the accounts
06:21 chris: and sending a manual pull request mail is better than sending it as an attachment? :)
06:23 chris yes, lots better
06:23 because its a ton easier for me to apply
06:23 robin of course, now I know that it would have been faster to delete everything and re-import, even accounting for the working-it-out time.
06:23 cait hm done
06:23 chris ta
06:24 robin alternately, I maybe should have put an index on that temp table.
06:24 cait and as you are here.... there are a lot of references to koha.org in the xslt files to a not existing url - not sure what to do with that
06:35 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5370: Fix references to koha.org and other old websites <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dfc0d233727a4011d>
06:37 cait chris: that was fast :) hope I made no spelling errors
06:38 chris :)
06:38 well, there was nothing that broke the tests, or broke the sql
06:38 so safe to push
06:38 robin awesome, think I'm all done here, and the client can spend the week looking over it.
06:39 chris yay!
06:40 robin and my little "turn a CSV into marc records" script has mutated into a 1,228-line monster :)
06:40 of the densest perl I think I've every written.
06:41 chris heh, reckon time to make it a module?
06:42 robin Just about, yeah. The latest round of changes have required some refectoring that would make that a bit easier, too.
06:43 chris i wonder if its almost to the point its worth thinking about cpanning it
06:43 cait :)
06:44 now you can work on making all messages go through the message_queue
06:44 * cait hides
06:44 robin hmm, I don't know if that would work: it hooks into Koha so that it can read the database to work out things like field name to MARC field mappings.
06:44 cait: oh yeah. That :)
06:44 chris ahh true
06:47 robin didn't get to work on my presentation after that :/ might have to do that tomorrow evening.
06:58 cait what is your presentation about?
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08:11 cait hi mason :)
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08:31 cait http://www.koha.org/wiki/?page=KohaInstaller < can't find it :(
08:53 wasabi heya cait
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09:47 magnus aloha wasabi!
10:09 cait hi magnus
10:09 how is bode?
10:09 wasabi heyas, just sorting out my irc-proxies...
10:11 magnus hi cait
10:11 bod� is snowing! airport is closed - i got home just in time...
10:12 @wunder bodo, norway
10:12 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0�C (11:20 AM CET on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady).
10:22 cait ah good
10:22 not the snow, but that it waited until you were home
10:33 magnus yup ;-)
10:34 cait we have rain here today
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17:50 cait hi #koha
17:50 wizzyrea_ hey cait
17:50 cait hi liz :)
17:53 * cait is happy to be home
17:53 cait getting chilly out there
17:53 @wunder Konstanz
17:53 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 5.0�C (7:00 PM CET on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 29.61 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
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18:40 chris Morning
18:41 cait morning chris
18:42 chris Heya cait
18:45 chris_n @wunder 28334
18:45 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 13.1�C (1:59 PM EST on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: -13.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
18:46 chris cait: will push your other patches today, most likely
18:46 Hi chris_n
18:46 cait chris_n: started configuration to test it, but not sure it will work on my laptop, perhaps at work tomorrow
18:46 chris: no hurry, hope they are ok
18:47 there are only a few references left now
18:47 chris They looked fine
18:47 cait but there are a lot of references in the po files
18:47 chris Ah yeah
18:48 I must chat to fredericd about that
18:48 Translations in general
18:49 chris_n cait: sounds great, tnx
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18:50 chris Hi paul_p
18:51 cait chris: tell me if I can fix them - but would prefer something not involving pootle ;)
18:52 chris Well I'm no longer translation dude :) I'm hoping to turn off my pootle when fredericd is ready to go
18:53 cait yeah, but perhaps we can fix and upload them or fredericd can fix them in bulk
18:53 chris Yep sed will fix them all in one hit
18:53 wizzyrea_ sed++
18:54 chris But the translation tool is gonna be rewritten by the student who starts today
18:54 cait cool :)
18:54 chris As part of the change to TT
18:54 The trick is to do it so we don't have to retranslate
18:55 cait RETRANSLATE?!
18:55 that would take weeks
18:55 chris Yep, that's why I said so we don't have to
18:56 cait ok
18:57 chris its also why I don't want to redesign the templates for 3.4
18:57 If we start moving stuff all round
18:58 cait a lot of things to retranslate
18:58 hm right
18:58 chris And changing to TT we'd def have to retranslate
18:58 One thing at a time
18:58 Kaizen
18:58 cait I like that
18:58 :)
19:01 chris Ok my stop bbiab
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19:32 chris back
19:34 richard hi chris
19:42 cait good night all
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19:50 wizzyrea_ woot: http://koha-community.org/documentation/ (yay, pdf!)
19:50 chris :)
19:50 richard cool stuff
19:56 chris it even works !
19:58 well done you!
19:58 wizzyrea++
20:10 chris_n wizzyrea++ # nice work
20:31 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5370' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]72186f41ef829d741> / Bug 5370: Fix all the references to koha.org <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cd1946500bf576065> / Bug 5370: Fix all references to koha.org <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]mitdiff;h=9f688ad
20:57 robin wasabi: http://weirdinwellington.tumbl[…]-flawless-victory
20:57 you're world famous in Wellington! :)
21:00 chris :)
21:09 chris_n if I read right, we have 81 commits on 3.2.x since 3.2.0
21:10 chris try git --oneline commit_id..HEAD
21:10 on the branch
21:10 that will tell you for sure :)
21:17 chris_n acutally, the post-receive script keeps track in the subject line
21:17 ie. 3.2.x, updated. v3.02.00-81
21:17 the -81
21:17 which git log confirms as correct :)
21:19 chris cool :)
21:19 chris_n the way things are going 3.2.1 will be a whopper of an update
21:23 chris yeah if people keep fixing things :)
21:23 i'm mostly caught up now
21:25 http://koha-releasemanagement.[…]ushed_2_November/ was the big day
21:29 wasabi robin: its the pink-helmet that enrages people ;)
21:30 by then, they've already seen me - mission accomplished...
21:30 chris :)
21:33 robin wasabi: I approve of your reasoning :)
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23:34 brendan_l @wunder 93117
23:34 munin brendan_l: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.7�C (3:49 PM PST on November 07, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect from 6 am Monday to 3 am PST Tuesday...
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