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01:13 | chris_n | #koha has grown quiet since the end of kohacon |
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01:37 | chris_n | gmcharlt about? |
01:40 | robin | well, everyone has returned to their weird places where they have christmas in the cold and night time when it should be day time. |
01:40 | chris_n | lol :) |
01:41 | * chris_n | would feel equally strange with snow in June/July |
01:44 | gmcharlt | chris_n: what's up? |
01:44 | chris_n | what's the proper way to call opac/oai.pl? |
01:44 | I'm trying: opac/oai.pl?verb=GetRecord&identifier=oai:arXiv.org:cs/0112017&metadataPrefix=oai_dc | |
01:45 | from FF, but get an error | |
01:45 | * chris_n | is no oai expert |
01:45 | gmcharlt | here's one example |
01:45 | http://opac1.koha.librarypolic[…]dataPrefix=oai_dc | |
01:46 | chris_n | hmm... I must not have something configured correctly |
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01:46 | chris_n | my log says: File does not exist: /home/cnighs/koha.3.2.test/koha-tmpl/opac |
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01:47 | chris_n | based on the very little bit of info in the 3.2 manual, I figured I was missing this file: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/xslt/UNIMARCslim2OAIDC.xsl |
01:47 | and so added it using the example in the manual | |
01:48 | but, alas, no still no luck | |
01:49 | I get the same error using the parameters in your query, so I've missed something | |
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03:06 | magnus | hiya irmaB |
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03:23 | cait | good morning #koha |
03:24 | robin | hiya |
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03:27 | brendan | heya |
03:28 | cait | hi robin and brendan |
03:28 | brendan | yo |
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03:49 | magnus | hiya cait |
03:49 | cait | hi magnus |
03:50 | you are up early too | |
03:50 | or still in nz? | |
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03:50 | magnus | nope, still in auckland ;-) |
03:50 | but you are early, cait! | |
03:50 | got your bag? | |
03:51 | cait | yep |
03:51 | magnus | woohoo |
03:51 | cait | got it yesterday evening :) |
03:51 | now my apartment is full of wet freshly washed clothes again :) | |
03:52 | magnus | woohoo ;-) |
04:04 | oh well i better go make the best of my last couple of hours in auckland - talk to y'all again in a few days! | |
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04:04 | * wasabi | waves |
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04:34 | brendan | heya wasabi |
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05:57 | brendan | heya wizzyrea_ |
05:57 | you home? | |
05:57 | wizzyrea_ | yea, safe and sound :) |
05:57 | very late tho | |
05:57 | lol | |
05:57 | stupid jet lag | |
05:57 | brendan | heh - do you have your luggage? |
05:57 | wizzyrea_ | yup, ddn't lose a thing |
05:57 | brendan | it seems that lots have returned without luggage |
05:58 | wizzyrea_ | hehe |
06:11 | chris | You are up late/early |
06:12 | wizzyrea_ | yea, i'm not following the "recover from jet lag" fles |
06:12 | rules even | |
06:12 | tomorrow will suck | |
06:12 | but....oh well | |
06:14 | chris | Hehe |
06:15 | How's spud coping? | |
06:15 | wizzyrea_ | he's doing ok I think |
06:16 | he went to bed last night about 11, woke up today at 1:30pm | |
06:16 | we made him skip his nap, and put him to bed at 8:30ish | |
06:16 | and he's asleep | |
06:16 | now | |
06:16 | we'll see lol | |
06:16 | chris | Cool |
06:18 | I think magnus, slef and lee are the last ones | |
06:18 | wizzyrea_ | kansas feels lonely now, it's odd. |
06:19 | chris | Yeah my office feels quiet |
06:19 | robin | chris: that's because you weren't here today |
06:20 | chris | Good point |
06:20 | wizzyrea_ | lol osnap |
06:20 | hey robin :) | |
06:20 | robin | wizzyrea_: �hola! |
06:22 | Of course, it is quiet right now, I'm the only one still here :) | |
06:25 | chris | :) |
06:27 | cait | perhaps you should go home too :) |
06:27 | can someone tell me why I redo my slides everytime I have a presentation? | |
06:27 | hmpf. | |
06:28 | robin | oh crap, I was going to start working on a presentation this evening. |
06:28 | Maybe I'll stop the migration stuff I'm doing and do that for half an hour, then go home. | |
06:29 | chris | :) |
06:29 | cait | sounds like a good idea |
06:29 | mine must be finished in an hour | |
06:29 | :( | |
06:30 | chris | kahu and I ate some more of your chocolate today cait |
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06:31 | robin | I have about two weeks for mine, so it's not critical, but if I don't start it now, I'll find myself working on it on a plane, and that won't end well. |
06:36 | cait | chris: you don't have to report ;) |
06:36 | but glad you like it :) | |
06:36 | chris | theres only the swiss stuff left |
06:38 | cait | I had no better idea for a present, but at least chocolate can be eaten and ends not up dusty in a corner somewhere |
06:38 | robin | Don gave a good little talk about KohaCon at Pizza Thursday talks today. |
06:38 | wizzyrea_ | I had a last minute airplane paranoia that prevented me from bringing the things I intended (they were liquid) |
06:39 | but... I intend to mail them! | |
06:39 | chris | robin: oh cool, howd that go? |
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06:40 | robin | Quite well, it was to the people that didn't really know what it was. |
06:40 | So fairly light on details, and only a few minutes long. | |
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06:42 | chris | right |
06:47 | wizzyrea_: http://www.flickr.com/photos/6[…]2157625300811656/ | |
06:47 | wizzyrea_ | awww that's a good one |
06:48 | I have a picture of magnus and thatcher where they look like twins | |
06:50 | robin | OK about 5 of 20 minutes of talk sketched out. Home time. |
06:51 | wizzyrea_ | :) yay home! |
06:51 | chris | :) |
06:53 | cait | :) |
06:53 | brendan | night all |
06:54 | cait | good night brendan |
06:54 | chris | night brendan |
06:55 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5363 - Removing unused module (C4::Cache::FastMemcached) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4722b3c4bc37e0708> |
07:05 | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/signoffs' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9b573dcb973761c87> / bug 5149: follow-up - remove extraneous character in link <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9860a2b7f14489e97> / bug 5149 fix broken link to noItemTypeImages preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh | |
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07:17 | chris | hmm someone/something is pounding the bugs machine |
07:17 | * chris | will stop apache until i can figure out what |
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07:26 | ivanc | good morning #koha |
07:31 | cait | oh no - powerpoint crashed :( |
07:36 | Oak | you should be crashing Impress not powerpoint... |
07:36 | ivanc | hi cait |
07:37 | Oak: right :) | |
07:37 | cait | hi ivanc |
07:37 | Oak | :) |
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07:50 | ivanc | cait resolved? |
07:50 | cait | yeah |
07:50 | lost only one slide | |
07:50 | could have been worse | |
07:51 | but have to go now - finished or not | |
07:51 | bye all! | |
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09:22 | maragar | hello |
09:22 | anyone around who could answer a question about ä and ö??? | |
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09:26 | maragar | when I acquire mark record from a z39.50 source all I get is �a for ä and �o for ö |
09:26 | I can change em manualy ok, but that is a tidious job.... any ideas? | |
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09:31 | chris | what z3950 server, and do you have the encoding set right, ie when you set up a z3950 source you can choose marc8 or utf8 |
09:31 | try changing it and see if you get better results | |
09:35 | maragar_ | ok.... I'll try to find where I can change that |
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09:40 | maragar | That Helpped THX! |
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11:54 | arooj | hello |
11:54 | ia m using koha 3 | |
11:55 | kindly can anyone tell me about how ican upgrade to 3.2 | |
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12:14 | owen | mbreeding tweets: "Major change with MySQL: free Classic Edition no longer supports InnoDB, only MyISAM http://www.mysql.com/products/" |
12:16 | chris_n` | oracle-- |
12:16 | chris_n` is now known as chris_n | |
12:16 | chris_n | yet another (as if we needed one) reason to refuse to allow this project to become vendor controlled |
12:17 | btw, MariaDB bills as a drop-in for MySQL... http://mariadb.org/ | |
12:19 | MariaDB uses the XtraDB storage engine which is a drop-in for InnoDB | |
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12:26 | briceSanc | hello Koha ! |
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12:28 | briceSanc | Is there a simple way to use Koha like a tiny CMS in order to add few pages |
12:28 | ? | |
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12:29 | owen | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS |
12:29 | briceSanc | I saw this page, I did not know if it was still relevant |
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12:30 | owen | briceSanc: I don't know either, I've never tried it |
12:30 | briceSanc | ok, thanks owen ! |
12:30 | i check that | |
12:33 | gmcharlt | owen: chris_n: it's not good news, but I think it is slightly overblown |
12:33 | I checked the source download, and innodb is still there | |
12:34 | chris_n | gmcharlt: oracle has taken a rather hostile position toward foss of late |
12:35 | I wonder how long it will remain in the source | |
12:35 | gmcharlt | well, if they start mangling tarballs of past releases, that would be telling |
12:36 | but InnoDB is (dual-) licensed under the GPL | |
12:36 | Oracle can't touch current implementations and packages | |
12:36 | braedon|h | is a fork possible with MySQL as in with OOo? |
12:36 | gmcharlt | braedon|h: there are already forks |
12:37 | MariaDB being the primary one meant as a drop-in replacement | |
12:37 | braedon|h | mm, ok |
12:37 | gmcharlt | Drizzle being another alternative |
12:37 | braedon|h | so they havn't kept anything particuarly important back? |
12:37 | gmcharlt | Drizzle isn't a drop-in replacement, though |
12:51 | jcamins_a | Is there any way to search for all records that have data in a certain field? |
12:51 | Wait, I can use a report. | |
12:51 | Never mind. | |
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13:25 | chris_n | gmcharlt must be reading my mind |
13:25 | * chris_n | is setting up mariadb atm :-) |
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13:30 | gmcharlt | chris_n++ |
13:31 | I do think that there is a bit of FUD about the pricing changes for MySQL support from Oracle, though, that needs to be kept in perspective | |
13:36 | chris_n | upon further consideration /me agrees |
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13:47 | wizzyrea | *yawn* good morning :) |
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13:50 | owen | Hi wizzyrea |
13:56 | * owen | waves some coffee in front of wizzyrea |
14:00 | * wizzyrea | jerks awake |
14:00 | wizzyrea | good lord, y'all were busy while I was on the plane |
14:00 | of course, I had two november 2's. | |
14:01 | * wizzyrea | is still confused about what day it is |
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14:12 | owen | wizzyrea: You're confused because last week it was tomorrow, and this week it's yesterday |
14:13 | gmcharlt | owen: I wonder if that will actually help ;) |
14:19 | wizzyrea | ... |
14:19 | * wizzyrea | disappears into a puff of smo... |
14:21 | wizzyrea | sorry, got trapped in a time vortex. |
14:22 | blinked out of existence there for a minute | |
14:26 | janPasi | Hi #koha |
14:27 | owen | Hi janPasi |
14:27 | janPasi | anyone know what's wrong with "hidden" values in framework editor? |
14:27 | I'm trying to hide 561a from OPAC, but it doesn't seem to work | |
14:27 | wizzyrea | Which version? |
14:28 | owen | janPasi: That might work for the MARC view, but not the standard display |
14:28 | janPasi | 3.00.05.003 |
14:28 | owen | janPasi: Whether you're jusing the normal or XSLT display, the fields which are displayed are hard-coded |
14:28 | janPasi | So how can I hide it from the standard display? |
14:29 | (I'm using XSLT) | |
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14:29 | CGI314 | Hello the most cramp stupid community which just love to chat with girls and give bulshit support |
14:29 | owen | janPasi: You'll have to edit the xsl file I'm afraid |
14:30 | CGI314: please leave | |
14:30 | CGI314 | few days back i came online and i said i have error SELinux preventing me but no one answer me |
14:30 | one guy just said that i have module problem reinstall it | |
14:30 | janPasi | Well I tried looking into MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl, but I can't see 561 there |
14:31 | jcamins_a | janPasi: where are you trying to hide it from? |
14:31 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
14:31 | CGI314 | i spent whole day again at least i got solution by myself so plz stop misguiding people if you dont know |
14:31 | jcamins | (one moment, and I'll clarify my question... that was a very bad question) |
14:31 | CGI314 | i lost my job because of this stupidity |
14:31 | owen | janPasi: There's probably a place which loops over the 56* tags or 5** tags |
14:32 | janPasi | jcamins: from the OPAC's "Descriptions" tab |
14:32 | jcamins | Ooh, you understood anyway. Cool! |
14:32 | CGI314 | basically simple problem was to disable selinux and no one dnt tell me this easy thing |
14:32 | jcamins | janPasi: actually, you need to modify the Perl script. |
14:32 | It's in... | |
14:32 | CGI314 | my company fired me because of this stupid community only 1 minute problem |
14:33 | jcamins | Oh, hm. |
14:33 | CGI314 | SO stop misguiding people if you dnt know exact solution |
14:33 | jcamins | It's in C4::Biblio. |
14:33 | CGI314: I think you are in the wrong channel. | |
14:33 | CGI314 | i am in right channel Jcammins koha irc |
14:34 | i am just suggesting you if you dnt know answers then no need to misguide people i think so it was chris | |
14:34 | jcamins | janPasi: one moment, I'm trying to see if I can figure out how to do this. |
14:34 | janPasi | err...? |
14:34 | so which script is that? | |
14:35 | * jcamins | is still looking to figure out what's going on... |
14:35 | jcamins | janPasi: you could disable it by modifying C4/Biblio.pm. |
14:35 | But that would also disable it in the intranet view. | |
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14:36 | janPasi | jcamins: I think it would still need to be in intranet view |
14:36 | jcamins | Yeah, I know. Right now I'm trying to think of a way to deal with this. |
14:37 | Sussan | hello |
14:37 | any one used virtual keyboard | |
14:38 | jcamins | janPasi: I don't know how to do it without disabling the view on the intranet, too. |
14:38 | Sussan | in search ,advance search opac site |
14:38 | janPasi | jcamins: ok, thanks anyway |
14:39 | jcamins | If you use a standard formatting for 561 fields (for example, "Ownership inscription:...") you might be able to have JavaScript hide it. |
14:40 | Sussan | Jcamins do you have any idea regarding using virtual keyboard enabling |
14:40 | jcamins | But I don't think 561 is usually used as a standard. |
14:40 | Sussan: no, sorry. | |
14:40 | I just switch my keyboard when I want to use a different script. | |
14:41 | Sussan | How you switch can you tell me. |
14:41 | jcamins | Just in Windows. |
14:41 | Sussan | jcammins i am talking about koha |
14:41 | in search , adsearch can i embedd virtual keyboard option | |
14:42 | jcamins | Sussan: yes, I know. But whenever I want to enter something other than English, I just switch keyboards. I have never used a virtual keyboard. |
14:42 | Sussan | ok thanks sorry before i couldnt get your point :) |
14:44 | janPasi | here's an example of how 561a is used: http://koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/ko[…]biblionumber=5002 |
14:44 | the last line (that says "Kulttuuriosuuskunta Uulu - Soitinkokoelma.") is 561a | |
14:45 | jcamins | janPasi: I don't think there would be any way to hide that with JavaScript, unfortunately. |
14:49 | janPasi | jcamins: ok, we'll just have to live with it then |
14:49 | jcamins | janPasi: this is a terrible solution, but the only thing I can think of if you need this *now* would be to put a subfield 5 at the beginning of each 561, and try and use JavaScript to hide that. Like this: 561 ##$5gmc$aKulttuuriosuuskunta Uulu - Soitinkokoelma. |
14:50 | As I said, terrible solution, but if this is really important, that might be an option. | |
14:51 | janPasi | ok, i'll have to ask how my collagues feel about that |
14:51 | how can i make 561a searchable? | |
14:51 | jcamins | janPasi: yay! |
14:51 | A question I can answer. :) | |
14:52 | One moment and I'll give you the exact instructions. | |
14:52 | janPasi | cool :D |
14:53 | jcamins | Hm. Why are mine not searchable anymore? |
14:54 | (rhetorical question) | |
14:54 | janPasi | yeah, i figured it was rethorical |
14:57 | jcamins | After line 154 in etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs add "melm 561[tab]Note:w,Note:p |
14:57 | Without any quotes. | |
14:58 | janPasi | what's [tab] in that? |
14:58 | jcamins | Hit the tab key. |
14:58 | My IRC client uses the tab key for autocomplete. :) | |
14:58 | Then you need to rebuild_zebra.pl -r -b | |
14:58 | janPasi | ah, ok :D |
14:59 | should i maybe but 561$a because that's the subfield we need? | |
14:59 | but=put | |
14:59 | jcamins | Yes, that would make sense. |
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15:00 | janPasi | ok, let's see if that worked |
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15:01 | janPasi | hmm... strange |
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15:01 | janPasi | rebuild_zebra.pl says nothing |
15:02 | jcamins | Good news. :) |
15:02 | Try a search. | |
15:02 | janPasi | rebuild hasn't completed yet |
15:02 | jcamins | Oh. |
15:02 | Well, wait until it has, then. ;) | |
15:02 | janPasi | i remembered that it used to output dots or something |
15:02 | maybe i was wrong | |
15:03 | ok, it completed | |
15:03 | works, thanks a lot :) | |
15:04 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
15:04 | I need to submit a patch. | |
15:04 | Well, several patches. | |
15:04 | CGI297 | I know Kyle HAll has posted the steps to upgrade his VM appliance of koha, but there's also this tempting menu option "upgrade Koha" when you ssh in as root - Does anyone know if that is to be trusted? |
15:04 | jcamins | Or possibly one big patch adding index for all the archival fields. |
15:04 | CGI297: I don't know, sorry. | |
15:05 | chris_n | very nice: after switch to mariadb, all mysql dbs are still intact, accessible, and usable |
15:05 | jcamins | Yay! |
15:06 | * chris_n | will now runs some tests |
15:06 | chris_n | I'm not sure what tests... |
15:07 | CGI297 | thanks jcamins; I guess that's why they make VM snapshots. ;) I'll report back what I find |
15:08 | brendan | morning all |
15:08 | chris_n | heya brendan |
15:08 | wizzyrea | mornin brendan |
15:08 | chris_n | hi wizzyrea! |
15:09 | * chris_n | starts with a zebra rinindex |
15:09 | chris_n | reindex, even |
15:10 | jcamins | LC's catalog is down? |
15:10 | Ick. | |
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15:17 | chris_n | zebra reindexed ok |
15:19 | check-in/check-out works | |
15:20 | gmcharlt: a few quick checks seem to indicate that mariadb appears, indeed, a drop-in replacement | |
15:20 | gmcharlt | cool |
15:20 | chris_n | installation from deb packages might be a bit rough for the uninitiated |
15:30 | trying out a fresh installation | |
15:33 | that works nicely | |
15:33 | gmcharlt: any suggestions on particular areas to test? | |
15:34 | gmcharlt | session management, for one |
15:34 | largish operations, like staging and importing a big batch | |
15:40 | Barrc | Anyone know how to create a new search index in 3.006? I need to remove a certain tag from the general search and create a new index on its own.....is this possible? |
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15:42 | jcamins | Errr... nice chatting? |
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15:44 | jcamins | Barrc: yes. |
15:45 | The field will still show up in keyword searches, but you can create a separate index so that people can use prefixes. | |
15:45 | Barrc | jcamins: I got booted from the server just then, so I missed any responses...... |
15:45 | jcamins | Fortunately I hadn't typed my response yet. |
15:46 | The "yes" was to say "it's possible." | |
15:46 | The next bit was to explain the limitations. | |
15:46 | Barrc | Oh! Thanks....... |
15:46 | jcamins | And now I'll explain how to do it. |
15:46 | Barrc | Please! |
15:48 | jcamins | The short version is, you're going to need to edit etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/bib1.att to add a new index, edit etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs to change what index the field you're interested in is getting indexed in, and edit etc/zebradb/properties.ccl to add a search prefix. |
15:48 | Then reindex with rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r | |
15:50 | I can give you more precise instructions if you need, if you tell me which field you want to move to a separate index, and so forth. | |
15:51 | Barrc | I was heading in the right direction myself, it seems. Althought I couldn't quite figure out some of those files. I need to move the contents field to its own index and out of any other index. So 500, and/or 505 |
15:51 | jcamins | Okay, you'll want to move the 505. |
15:52 | If you move the 500, you'll still end up with all the notes in the same index. | |
15:52 | ;) | |
15:53 | So you'd add something like (from memory, so you'll want to check the files to make sure I have the syntax right) "att 7095 contents" to bib1.att | |
15:54 | Then change the "melm 505 Notes:w,Notes:p" to "melm 505 contents:w,contents:p" (or you may need to add that line) | |
15:55 | Barrc | OK, with you so far.... |
15:55 | jcamins | Then add to ccl.properties "Contents 1=7095" (or whatever number you chose) and "con Contents" |
15:55 | Then rebuild zebra. | |
15:56 | To search with that, use con:whatever | |
15:57 | Barrc | Great....are there any docuements on this? The website has a brief mention of these files but no examples, it mentions a diagram but it isn't shown anywhere |
15:57 | jcamins | There's a way to add that to the dropdown in the searches with jQuery, but it's not on the wiki. |
15:57 | Barrc: no, I don't think there is any documentation. :( | |
15:57 | wizzyrea | jcamins: did you do that with jquery? |
15:58 | jcamins | wizzyrea: yeah. |
15:58 | * wizzyrea | notes that we should add it to the cookbook |
15:58 | jcamins | Yes. |
15:58 | wizzyrea | ^.^ yay! |
15:58 | * wizzyrea | runs around in a circle squealing "I'M HELPING!!!" |
15:59 | jcamins | $("select[name='idx']").append("<option value='adate'>Auction date</option><option value='Host-item,wrdl'>Journal title</option>"); |
15:59 | wizzyrea | hm. perhaps a bit too much time spent with my 2 year old |
15:59 | jcamins | wizzyrea: :) |
15:59 | Oh, by the way, welcome back. | |
16:00 | Recovered from your jetlag? | |
16:00 | wizzyrea | oi, no |
16:01 | was up until like 3am last night | |
16:01 | jcamins | Barrc: to clarify, you should adjust that to match your new index. |
16:01 | wizzyrea | (10ish or something NZ time) |
16:01 | jcamins | And that should be surrounded by the document.ready thing. |
16:01 | wizzyrea | forced the kiddo back into bed around 3am after a snack. |
16:01 | Barrc | OK, I think I should be fine from here.....I may write something up too, if I sort it out! Thanks |
16:02 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
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16:04 | jcamins | Added. |
16:06 | wizzyrea++ | |
16:08 | wizzyrea | you may want to put a new title on it :P |
16:08 | didn't know what to call it | |
16:21 | jcamins | I added a title. |
16:26 | wizzyrea | jcamins++ |
16:26 | @karma wizzyrea | |
16:26 | munin | wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 114 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 114. |
16:26 | wizzyrea | @karma |
16:26 | munin | wizzyrea: Highest karma: "chris" (187), "gmcharlt" (177), and "owen" (170). Lowest karma: "<!" (-71), "failed" (-46), and "-" (-30). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 6 out of 1048. |
16:27 | wizzyrea | i almost caught owen there for a while |
16:27 | but he's so awesome I'm happy to be behind him ;) | |
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16:29 | jcamins | Hi, cait. |
16:29 | How did your presentation go? | |
16:29 | cait | hi jcamins |
16:29 | I think it was good | |
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16:30 | jcamins | Good! |
16:30 | cait | but I am not really objective :) |
16:30 | jcamins | True, but what's important is that you thought it went well. ;) |
16:31 | cait | the discussion was interesting |
16:31 | not only questions, but people talking with each other | |
16:31 | about open source :) | |
16:32 | now I am sooo tired | |
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16:35 | brice_ | do you know where the session are stored when i use "tmp" in sysprefs because the /tmp folder stay empty |
16:36 | brendan | they should be in the /tmp folder |
16:37 | brice_ | it's wired... |
16:38 | brendan | brice_ they are on my system (it's written there by the www-data user) |
16:38 | brice_ | weird |
16:38 | brendan | yup weirdo |
16:39 | brice_ | ok |
16:39 | brendan | do you have a sessionlog in there? |
16:40 | brice_ | i will chech that |
16:43 | i have nothing in tmp and in var/log | |
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16:43 | briceSanc | it's still me (brice_) |
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16:48 | brendan | @seen bankhead |
16:48 | munin | brendan: bankhead was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 0 days, 18 hours, 11 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <bankhead> quit |
16:49 | briceSanc | brendan, it's ok, i found it in other place, not in koha tmp |
16:49 | brendan | ah where did you find it? |
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16:50 | briceSanc | in /tmp at the beginning of my debian |
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16:57 | rashed | السلام عليكم |
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17:05 | cait | changing laptop |
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17:10 | cait | re |
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17:32 | reva | hi good afternoon, Would any of you know what exchange standard is compliant with a content management system like Joomla? |
17:34 | jcamins | reva: you might consider asking that question in the CMS support forums. |
17:34 | I'm going to speculate that they mostly just use HTML or some sort of custom markup. | |
17:35 | reva | Thanks jcamins. Would you have a link that I can use? |
17:35 | jcamins | reva: no, but Googling might help. |
17:36 | To clarify, CMS=Content Management System. | |
17:36 | It will be different for each different Content Management System. If you're using Joomla, that would be the one to look into. | |
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17:58 | reva | Ok, I will. thanks. Also, is there ar button with a label "ready to check out?" that when you click it which triggers the scanner to turn on ? |
17:58 | owen | reva: In Koha? Your web browser can't control your scanner. |
17:59 | reva | so what will be the trigger for sef-checkout? |
17:59 | wizzyrea | um, normally people set the scanner to always on for that sort of thing |
17:59 | trea | reva: you should be able to configure the scanner itself to sit in automatic mode (ie, always scanning) |
18:00 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
18:00 | trea | that is based on the model of scanner you have |
18:00 | jcamins | That has nothing to do with Koha, though. |
18:00 | wizzyrea | the code to scan to enable it is usually in the manual |
18:01 | reva | Thanks. |
18:01 | wizzyrea | the manual for the scanner, i should say, not the koha manual. |
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18:17 | reva | Thanks wizzyrea. |
18:18 | wizzyrea | yep :) |
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18:24 | seneca | Anyone have experience with getting Koha to send emails? |
18:25 | my server can send emails just fine from the command line, but I can't get Koha to send anything | |
18:25 | though I very probably have missed a step | |
18:26 | is there a global "enable email" checkbox or a line in a config file? | |
18:28 | wizzyrea | hrmm |
18:29 | seneca | my thoughts exactly ;) |
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18:30 | seneca | I saw in some google search result that there might be cronjobs to set, but I haven't seen what those might be |
18:30 | brendan | seneca yes look at your cronjobs |
18:30 | and also under koha > tools> notice/status/triggers | |
18:30 | seneca | cronjobs as which user? |
18:31 | brendan | cronjobs usually are under the koha/misc/cronjobs |
18:31 | your kohauser | |
18:32 | owen | seneca: Although it depends on which kind of email you're trying to send. Emailing a cart, for instance, should happen right away (no cronjob) |
18:32 | seneca | you mean the user "koha" or the user that koha is runnign as? |
18:32 | at this point, I'm trying to get any email to work, so I suppose let's try for non-cron emails first. :) | |
18:33 | jcamins | seneca: the latter. |
18:36 | seneca | hrm...looks like the cart function isn't working... (I just upgraded to 3.2) All you do is click on the cart button to view the cart, right? |
18:37 | jcamins | seneca: if you don't have anything in your cart, it won't do anything. |
18:37 | seneca | I've got three things |
18:37 | jcamins | Hm. |
18:37 | seneca | hold on.. |
18:38 | wizzyrea | the cart works on mine which is tracking master |
18:39 | seneca | yeah, I got it... |
18:39 | wizzyrea | maybe you have very aggressive pop up blocking? |
18:39 | oh cool. | |
18:39 | seneca | ok, the emailing of carts works |
18:40 | how about the emailing of hold being set to the librarian - is that a cron send? | |
18:43 | brendan | emailing of the hold to librarian - doesn't work |
18:43 | seneca | ah - a not-there-yet feature. eh? |
18:43 | that would explain that | |
18:44 | to your knowledge, do the fines and due dates email work? | |
18:50 | chris | yes, i have libraries using those in production |
18:50 | once you have the cron jobs running | |
18:51 | seneca | oh! I just ran the process_message_queue script and the holds emails were delivered! |
18:51 | I guess that does work now | |
18:51 | and is apparently a cron send ;) | |
18:52 | is there a recommendation for how often to run that script or is it just up to the user? | |
18:52 | chris | up to the user |
18:52 | i run it every 15 | |
18:52 | reva | hi, i am reading the question on emaililng the cart. Mine has problems emailing (I am operating from Koha 3.0.6). Where do I set the pop-mail server info? |
18:52 | seneca | cool |
18:55 | chris | you dont, pop is for fetching email reva |
18:56 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug_5227' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5752d368f540fb02e> |
18:56 | reva | ok chris, where do I set a mail server address to send the mail out. That is why my cart email does not work? |
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18:58 | jcamins | reva: you'd have to set up a mail server on your computer. That's not really a Koha thing, though. |
18:58 | (on your server, I mean, not your desktop) | |
18:59 | reva | Congrats on 3.2. I have the Live Cd version of it in the virtual box now. It looks good with all the clone working on the subfields. And my colors are desert adobe with nutmeg. |
19:03 | jcamins, we have a government mail server; so there is nothing I have to do from inside Koha the email my cart? (So I need to set my Ubuntu to the mail server address?) | |
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19:04 | reva | Because my Koha is running on an Ubuntu server. |
19:05 | jcamins | reva: I think there was just a discussion about this on the mailing list. You need to have someone way of sending e-mail from your Koha server. Which means you need a mail server. |
19:05 | Here. http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]lp-td3059408.html | |
19:06 | reva | Thanks, jcamins. I will read through and contact the people in the department for it. |
19:06 | jcamins | (that was the tenth result on Google for "koha send email," in case you were curious) |
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19:09 | richard | hi |
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19:15 | reva | Ok, I am seeing this as the solution for us (though I do not understand postfix): Koha relies a lot on the mail functions of the server. For example I have my server running postfix and set to send email through another mail server. |
19:15 | jcamins | reva: yes, that is correct. You need to make sure you are able to send e-mail from the server. |
19:16 | You'll probably want to look online for documentation on how to set up a mail server. | |
19:17 | wizzyrea | hey richard :) |
19:18 | reva | Ok, I will let the correct people know here so they can do it. I will look for the suggested documentation to set up. As I said, we run our current hard disk installed Koha on Ubuntu server 10.04 and the 3.2 Live CD runs on Ubuntu 10.10. So it should be possible to set it up as mail server. I think. |
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19:20 | mib_mike | reva I just got here. Can you restate your problem |
19:28 | reva | hi mib_mike, I wanted to set up my OS so that it can send email from Koha. My 3.2 is running on Ubuntu 10.10 |
19:28 | mib_mike | reva are you getting errors, or are you starting from scratch? |
19:29 | reva | I am starting from scratch. |
19:29 | mib_mike | reva: I'm running the same system you have. |
19:30 | is postfix installed on your system? | |
19:30 | reva | Ok, so how would I install postfix so that my Ubuntu can connect to our government mail server and send email? So that Koha that is inside can send emails. |
19:31 | No, not yet. Is it a package I can have downloaded and installed? | |
19:31 | mib_mike | what happens when you run "ps -ef | grep postfix" at your command line? |
19:31 | reva | Because the system minimal packages installed, I do not think that it has postfix installed. |
19:32 | I will try it now. | |
19:33 | Hold on for a second, I have to boot into my system. | |
19:33 | mib_mike | O.K. also do you know who provides your smtp service? |
19:35 | reva | It comes up with abbs 2375 2371 15:49 pts/0 00:00:00 grep postfix. Does that mean it is not installed?:) |
19:35 | mib_mike | Well, it's not running, anyway. |
19:35 | reva | not off the top of my head, I have to check with the government agency. |
19:36 | so what would I do to start it running? | |
19:36 | mib_mike | what about "ls -l /etc/init.d/postfix " |
19:36 | reva | let me try listing |
19:37 | wizzyrea | ubuntu? sudo /etc/init.d/postfix start, usually |
19:37 | reva | Let me pipe it through less and read and tell you as a lot scrolled by. |
19:38 | mib_mike | It shouldn't have been more than one line. |
19:38 | jcamins | reva: if you entered the line that mib_mike suggested, you should have one or zero lines. |
19:38 | If you got more, try retyping. | |
19:39 | reva | There is so ls cannot access it because no file or directory. |
19:39 | mib_mike | So yeah, you'll have to install it. |
19:39 | reva | ok, so is it a package I go looking for? |
19:40 | or use wget to get it? | |
19:40 | mib_mike | sudo apt-get install postfix |
19:40 | yes, it's a package | |
19:40 | reva | ok, I am doing it just now |
19:41 | it says postfix is not available. The Live CD builder trims the packages down, so that it can inside one CD. So I have to probably fetch it from an ftp site. | |
19:42 | wizzyrea | sudo apt-get install postfix would probably do it |
19:42 | mib_mike | apt-get should be able to fetch stuff. |
19:42 | You didn't boot from the cd, did you? | |
19:43 | reva | I still get no candidate as response. |
19:43 | No, this is hard disk install. | |
19:43 | wizzyrea | does the server have internet access? |
19:44 | reva | And my virtual box install is also boots from the virtual hard disk. |
19:44 | mib_mike | I'm a bit rusty here, but you probably have to modify the package sources |
19:44 | jcamins | I don't think so. |
19:45 | wizzyrea | surely not for postfix |
19:45 | jcamins | http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/postfix |
19:45 | mib_mike | I'm sorry, I mispoke. |
19:45 | https://help.ubuntu.com/commun[…]ories/CommandLine | |
19:45 | I mean repository sources. | |
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19:50 | mib_mike | Note the "future versions area" We're past hardy and intrepid already |
19:51 | reva | jcamins, I have noted it down and try it tommorrow. Thanks mib_mike and jcamins. One more week!:) |
19:51 | Again Koha 3.2 is slick. Congrats Koha. | |
19:52 | jcamins | reva: what I was saying with that link is that if you are unable to install with apt-get, there is a problem with Ubuntu on your computer. |
19:52 | reva | ok, I see. may be I have to go into source.list and tweak that? |
19:53 | mib_mike | The source.list is how apt knows where to find packages |
19:53 | reva | But I have no problem it running, no error messages. So I am not sure. |
19:53 | mib_mike | It's possible that your source list is very restrictive. |
19:54 | reva | Ok, maybe that has some other address other than the standard address for fetching packages? |
19:54 | mib_mike | No, postfix is a standard package. |
19:54 | You might have a "non-standard" source list. | |
19:54 | reva | Ok, it could be. but I did sudo and it asked for the root password. So I should be able to run commands using the list. |
19:55 | mib_mike | It's also possible you've got some other problem. |
19:55 | sudo shouldn't ask for the ROOT password, it should ask for YOUR password. | |
19:56 | reva | Ok, I will try and modify it tomorrow as they are closing for the day. Thanks and bye everyone. Sorry I misspoke; that was my password. |
19:56 | mib_mike | sources.list is a configuration file for apt that tells apt where on the internet it can look for packages. |
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20:20 | mib_mike | I'm getting a software error in koha 3.02 when adding a new order to a basket |
20:20 | Mandatory parameter budget_id missing at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Acquisitions.pm line 903 called from acqui/addorder.pl | |
20:22 | chris | 3.2.0 or 3.0.2 |
20:22 | it always confuses me when ppl leave out . | |
20:22 | mib_mike | koha-3.02.00 |
20:22 | chris | ta |
20:23 | ppl kept writing 3.00.02 as 3.02 | |
20:23 | so now i always have to ask :) | |
20:23 | ah right | |
20:23 | mib_mike | No problem. |
20:23 | chris | have you defined budgets etc? |
20:23 | and is this a brand new basket, or one that came across in the upgrade? | |
20:24 | mib_mike | Well, it was working in 3.00.06. I get the same error adding orders to new baskets or old ones. |
20:24 | brendan | what does the kc stand for in the new branches that are appearing? |
20:25 | mib_mike | Actually I should say I get AN error in either case. I don't know it's the same one. |
20:25 | chris | right, acquisitions changed totally |
20:25 | jcamins | brendan: Koha Community? |
20:25 | chris | brendan: koha-community |
20:25 | brendan | ha - that was easy |
20:25 | chris | means i merged it from git.koha-community.org |
20:25 | you might see some galen/something | |
20:25 | or fbcit/something | |
20:25 | if i merged from someone else's repo | |
20:26 | brendan | fb = facebook ;_ |
20:26 | :) | |
20:26 | chris | mib_mike: can you check your budgets etc, make sure they are all set up? |
20:26 | gmcharlt | chris_n: old nicks are forever, I see ;) |
20:26 | chris | :) |
20:26 | they live on as remotes | |
20:26 | :) | |
20:27 | mib_mike | I've got budgets. |
20:27 | one is listed as both active and locked. | |
20:28 | I'm not much of a user. What does that mean? | |
20:28 | Hmm. It looks like the end date of that budget has passed. | |
20:29 | chris | i suspect that is the problem |
20:29 | could you change it | |
20:29 | see if that fixes it | |
20:29 | mib_mike | In fact, the end date of ALL my budgets seem to have passed! |
20:29 | chris | and if so, lodge a bug |
20:29 | because the error message should be | |
20:29 | "You have no valid budgets" | |
20:29 | or something that is actually useful :) | |
20:30 | mib_mike | Thanks, chris. I wil |
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20:46 | chris | ok, im outta here |
20:48 | wizzyrea | farewell |
20:49 | jcamins | Bye. |
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21:44 | robin | http://awfullibrarybooks.net/w[…]geons-Pay-002.jpg <-- Oh they will, they will pay! |
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22:55 | jcamins | xml_querying_with_reports++ |
22:58 | chris_n | lol robin |
23:07 | jcamins | Does the timestamp get updated when you select a record? |
23:10 | Never mind. | |
23:10 | I was in the wrong database. | |
23:18 | chris_n | only on inserts/updates |
23:37 | jcamins | Yeah, that was a dumb question. I couldn't figure out why I was missing bibs 6-100, but it turns out that's because I deleted them. |
23:46 | * jcamins | has forgotten his SSH passphrase |
23:47 | jcamins | Bother. |
23:55 | Hm. | |
23:55 | What's with the questionmarks that have appeared in the cataloging module? | |
23:56 | Ohhh. | |
23:56 | Help. |
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