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00:25 | jcamins | gmcharlt: pushed two additional patches adding use warnings and authentication. |
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00:39 | chris | sekjal: emailed to your gmail |
00:40 | sekjal | got it |
00:45 | jcamins | chris: do we have an ETA on the Template::Toolkit conversion? |
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00:45 | chris | im hoping early december |
00:46 | jcamins | Ooh! Soon! Yay! |
00:47 | Doesn't AMICUS use a strange encoding? | |
00:48 | I seem to recall someone having issues with that before. | |
00:49 | chris++ # for being 3.4 RM | |
00:49 | catalyst++ # for hiring brilliant interns | |
00:49 | interns++ # for converting Koha to use Template::Toolkit | |
00:50 | chris | heh |
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00:52 | brendan_l | heya jcamins |
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00:54 | jcamins | Hi brendan. |
00:56 | How are things in sunny CA? | |
01:00 | chris_n2 | wb hudsonbot |
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01:10 | chris_n2 | seeya hudsonbot |
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01:22 | chris_n2 | !hudson build Koha_3.2.x now |
01:22 | hudsonbot | chris_n2: job Koha_3.2.x build scheduled now |
01:39 | dafydd | jcamins_a, I'm finding bug 5333 isn't just AMICUS - LOC is giving me issues as well |
01:39 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5333 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Undefined value stops import from z39.50 |
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01:46 | jcamins_a | dafydd: That's a strange bug. |
01:47 | I can't really troubleshoot right now, but are you able to import anything? | |
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02:00 | ebegin | hey Koha! |
02:01 | just noted something strange in the etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/record.abs and I want to check that with you | |
02:02 | the field for the date uses the 008, pos 35 to 37. For value such as eng (english) , fre (french), spa (spanish) etc... is that correct? | |
02:02 | the field for the language, not for the date, sorry ;) | |
02:03 | the record.abs file seems to specify the search by digit (n) instead of word (w). ln:n:range(data,35,3) is this normal? | |
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02:13 | gmcharlt | ebegin: there's a recent patch in the queue that fixes that |
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02:14 | ebegin | ok, so it changes the n for a w, right? |
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02:14 | gmcharlt | right |
02:14 | ebegin | ok. thanks gmcharlt |
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02:16 | jcamins_a | ebegin: that's a bug. I think gmcharlt signed off on the patch to fix that a few days ago. |
02:16 | Oh, and gmcharlt just said that. | |
02:16 | Sorry. | |
02:17 | ebegin | jcamins_a, :) thanks anyway ;) |
02:18 | jcamins_a, aren't you away? :D | |
02:18 | jcamins_a | ebegin: yes, can't you tell? |
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02:22 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: History updates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3041a3d95b71c562a> |
02:22 | dafydd | jcamins, yeah, I can import at least 80% of my stuff currently, |
02:22 | jcamins | dafydd: that's really weird. |
02:23 | What's the LCCN of an LC record that doesn't work? | |
02:23 | dafydd | one sec |
02:25 | 2005281191 | |
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02:26 | Oak | \o |
02:27 | gmcharlt | dafydd: that one works for me |
02:27 | jcamins | Works for me. |
02:28 | Python cookbook? | |
02:28 | dafydd | Yep |
02:32 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: history updates - recent releases <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c395185d9f6be3aee> / bug 5327: follow-up to fix SIP tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7532ee2fe814e5365> / Bug 5327: More basic unit tests for C4 modules <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d68249db0c8acec03 |
02:32 | jcamins | dafydd: sounds like a problem with your installation. |
02:33 | dafydd | crap |
02:33 | jcamins | Also, could you clarify which version you were running before your upgrade? |
02:33 | dafydd | 3.00.01.005 |
02:33 | gmcharlt | dafydd: other things I would suggest checking are your versions of MARC::Record, MARC::Charset, and yaz |
02:34 | dafydd | will do |
02:35 | jcamins | I'm confused by that version. |
02:35 | gmcharlt: is that 3.0.x or an early development snapshot for 3.2? | |
02:36 | dafydd | It was on the preconfigured VM for 3.0 |
02:36 | gmcharlt | 3.0.1 specfically, I would assume |
02:36 | jcamins | Ah! |
02:36 | dafydd | (tried the new 3.2 VM in Koha tools, but it didn't boot in VirtualBox) |
02:36 | jcamins | Yeah, that's what I thought it was too. |
02:37 | This is Kyle Hall's old VMWare image? | |
02:37 | dafydd | yeah |
02:37 | looks like MARC:Charset was kind of old, upgrading it now | |
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02:49 | dafydd | updated MARC::Charset, MARC::Record, and yaz - still no luck :-( |
02:57 | Just tried modifying BiblioAddsAuthorities, which was mentioned on the mailing list for the same problem - again no luck | |
02:59 | jcamins | dafydd: how much data do you have in your database? |
03:00 | dafydd | about 20 records so far |
03:00 | jcamins | Any patron data? |
03:00 | dafydd | about 30 patrons |
03:01 | (with plans to expand :-) | |
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03:01 | jcamins | I was just wondering if it might be less trouble for you to just install off of the new 3.2 Live CD. http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/ |
03:03 | dafydd | I'll export my stuff and take a look at that later tonight |
03:08 | jcamins | If you're able to do a mysqldump and restore, and everything works, that means it was the installation. |
03:08 | If you're not, that means it's the configuration. | |
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03:49 | wasabi | are the bywater and biblibre guys heading to catalyst tomorrow too? |
03:50 | hdl | wasabi: BibLibre yes |
03:50 | brendan_l | I think sekjal will too |
03:50 | wasabi | ok, great |
03:50 | i will be able to come along too, tomorrow | |
03:50 | hdl | ok... maybe we should be in level 3 |
03:50 | wasabi | i sorted my problem out today :) |
03:51 | hdl | good. |
03:51 | saw taht on twitter | |
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03:53 | wasabi | hdl: really? |
03:53 | hdl | yes. ppl donot shout woohoo without a reason ;) |
03:53 | (was with chris) | |
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05:06 | brendan_l | night all |
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05:19 | kmkale | hi all |
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07:23 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 5223, 'related subjects' should read 'subjects' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a61971b827714f9ba> / Fix for Bug 4261 - keyword mapping should show which framework the map is for <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d88cb91fb1c8678fd> |
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07:43 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'signoffs' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8fa6ae0ddad0069b2> |
07:43 | chris | @later tell chris_n http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ hope this is some help for you |
07:43 | munin | chris: The operation succeeded. |
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07:53 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/background_jobs_tested' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3b0788ebf287820f8> |
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08:07 | chris | heya wizzyrea_ |
08:07 | wizzyrea_ | hi there |
08:08 | had one last walk down by the harbor.. spud was kissing things and atelling them goodbye | |
08:08 | I almost cried. | |
08:08 | chris | awww |
08:09 | what time is your flight tomorrow? | |
08:09 | wizzyrea_ | at the butt crack of dawn |
08:09 | 6:40 am | |
08:10 | chris | yikes |
08:10 | wizzyrea_ | yea |
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08:50 | slef | moo from wairau valley |
08:57 | wizzyrea_ | heya how's the south island? |
08:58 | slef | dark again |
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08:58 | wizzyrea_ | well yes, that happens when your planet turns |
08:58 | slef | with misbehaving internet |
08:58 | wizzyrea_ | well that's not so cool |
08:59 | slef | well I guess it's good to have wifi at a vineyard at all, really |
08:59 | wizzyrea_ | hrmm |
09:00 | slef | think I'll switch back to cellular if it doesn't settle soon |
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09:05 | slef | switch... apparently wifi did 1Mb in 20mins :-/ |
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09:13 | slef | wizzyrea_: glacier lakes are pretty cool, if you'll excuse the pun |
09:19 | hdl | hehe |
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09:54 | hdl | gmcharlt: around ? |
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12:16 | owen | Hi #koha |
12:21 | gmcharlt | hi owen |
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12:32 | owen | gmcharlt: I'm a little confused about the current branches... When you say a patch has been pushed to "master," what does that mean? |
12:33 | gmcharlt | owen: 'master' is HEAD, i.e., on the mainline for inclusion in 3.4 |
12:34 | owen | Okay, that's what I thought. I was surprised that you were the one doing the pushing |
12:34 | gmcharlt | I'm not |
12:34 | I'm just noting that the fix has hit master | |
12:35 | I'm working on a post-upload hook for the public git repository to add that kind of notification to bugs automatically whenever something gets pushed | |
12:36 | owen | That would be excellent |
12:39 | gmcharlt | owen: I'd be curious to know your opinion of the styling of slip news in Darrell's patch |
12:39 | http://git.librarypolice.com/?[…]d2ae9ffcbd808f8ad | |
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12:40 | owen | Sure, I'll take a look later today gmcharlt |
12:40 | gmcharlt | thanks |
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13:23 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
13:34 | @marc 541 | |
13:34 | munin | jcamins: Information on the immediate source of acquisition of the described materials. The field is used primarily for original or historical items or other archival collections. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,h,n,o,3,5,6,8] |
13:40 | schuster | That's interesting but how do you know which one if you have multiple branches. |
13:48 | jcamins | @marc 541 5 |
13:48 | munin | jcamins: Institution to which field applies See Control Subfields |
13:48 | jcamins | @marc 541 3 |
13:48 | munin | jcamins: Materials specified |
13:48 | jcamins | schuster: ^^ |
13:49 | :) | |
13:50 | On my to-do list is making Koha parse subfield 5s. | |
14:23 | owen | gmcharlt: I'm looking at that patch now |
14:23 | gmcharlt | thanks again |
14:23 | owen | We don't use slip printers here, so I'm not sure what the limitations are. |
14:23 | Does the content need to have an explicit width? | |
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14:25 | owen | My only comment about it cosmetically is that I would probably take out the "news" heading since the title of the "item" can serve as a heading, and "news" might be too specific |
14:29 | gmcharlt | the limitations will vary from printer to printer, of course, so can't catch them all |
14:30 | safest would probably be making the default template not have any real formatting whatsoever | |
14:30 | but that may be a little too least-common-denominator | |
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14:43 | owen | gmcharlt: How do you choose to send a pull request as opposed to sending a patch? |
14:45 | gmcharlt | owen: so far, I've been doing pull requests if for some reason a patch can't be emailed or if the topic branch has a not-small number of patches |
14:45 | where 'not-small' is currently a bit fuzzy | |
14:48 | tcohen | anyone using unimarc? |
14:49 | i'd like to know where to find references for unimarc authority records | |
14:49 | jcamins | tcohen: http://www.ifla.org/VI/8/proje[…]oritiesFormat.pdf ? |
14:49 | gmcharlt | tcohen: documentation at http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation is up to date |
14:50 | tcohen | jcamins, gmcharlt thanks |
14:56 | it's a pity there's only a pdf | |
14:58 | with marc authorities we can have | |
14:58 | function PopupFieldDoc(field) { | |
14:58 | if(field == 0) { | |
14:58 | window.open("http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/adleader.html"); | |
14:58 | } else { | |
14:58 | // avoid local fields | |
14:58 | window.open("http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad"+field+".html"); | |
14:58 | } | |
14:58 | } | |
15:00 | jcamins | Ooh, that's kind of cool. |
15:01 | Was there ever any patch submitted for bug 5226? | |
15:01 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5226 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, MARC21 field 545 missing |
15:03 | jcamins | I'm not seeing one, and I reported that bug before I had access to any development machine. |
15:04 | gmcharlt | I'm not aware of any |
15:04 | jcamins | Okay. |
15:04 | I'll try and remember to submit one. | |
15:06 | But my server is on 3.2-RC, so I won't be doing it now. | |
15:09 | Hm. nengard's patch for bug 5040 doesn't appear to have made it in, either. | |
15:09 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5040 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED, "Distance" misspelled in default framework |
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15:37 | markk | hello again ... |
15:40 | i have a problem in koha 3.00.06.010 while adding a new MARC record I can't edit the fields 003 and 005 for example by clicking on the <...> to the right of the text box. Any idea why? 008 is working and popping a window with fields to edit. | |
15:40 | should I upgrade or is there anything else I should do/check? | |
15:45 | jcamins | markk: you should be able to just enter text directly into the box for 003. |
15:45 | 005 is automatically filled in, I think. | |
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15:47 | markk | yes I can ... but as far as I recall an older version did popup upon clickng on the <...> ... the librarian @ the library I installed it keeps asking me to make it work .. they have some option to set for the Arabic things |
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15:49 | markk | btw where can I download th 3.2.0 version? |
15:49 | owen | http://www.koha-community.org |
15:52 | jcamins | markk: 003 and 005 don't have any flexibility in their values. |
15:52 | Do they mean 006? | |
15:53 | markk | 006 is working ... apparently they'r just asking for it bcuz of the <...> not showing up anything ... btw i'm not a librarian and don't know what r these used for :) |
15:54 | jcamins | 003 should *always* be set to your MARC organizational code, and 005 should always be the date that the record was last modified. |
15:55 | So there shouldn't be ellipses next to the 003 and 005. Good catch. | |
15:55 | markk | mmmm i see ... 10x jcamins |
16:48 | brendan | morning |
16:50 | markk | morning |
16:50 | though it's still 7.05pm here :) | |
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18:20 | chris | And another group fly out |
18:24 | owen | Are you in kohacon withdrawal chris? |
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18:37 | chris | Yup |
18:40 | brendan | morning chris |
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18:51 | chris | hiya brendan |
18:52 | gmcharlt | hi chris, brendan |
18:52 | brendan | heya gmcharlt |
18:53 | chris | http://freshmeat.net/projects/koha |
18:53 | * chris | regained control of the freshmeat listing |
18:53 | chris | https://launchpad.net/koha |
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18:58 | chris | also http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ |
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19:03 | markk | guys ... did anyone tried to install koha 3.2 on ubuntu 10.04? there's a perl requirement "Graphics::Magick" that i ain't able to install it through cpan |
19:03 | chris | install the package |
19:04 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/luc[…]phics-magick-perl | |
19:05 | jcamins | Oops, did I forget that one in my instructions? |
19:06 | I should write out proper instructions on the wiki. | |
19:07 | chris | gmcharlt: got a sec? |
19:07 | gmcharlt | yep |
19:07 | chris | would you be able to set up a repo for biblibre at git.koha-community.org please? |
19:08 | gmcharlt | yep |
19:08 | sec | |
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19:14 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5318: fix value of r4 rank weight <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]56893f7a4cbff323a> / remove unused template include <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]63a6502932236063b> |
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19:17 | chris_n | !hudson build Koha_3.2.x now |
19:18 | chris | bot isnt around chris_n |
19:18 | * chris_n | looks around for hudson |
19:18 | chris_n | k |
19:18 | chris | i turned the irc off because it was breaking things, until they fix the plugin |
19:18 | its actually building anyway | |
19:18 | http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/ | |
19:19 | gmcharlt | chris: done, wip/koha-biblibre, and hdl has push access |
19:20 | chris | fab thank you |
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19:22 | chris_n | chris: if its scratched off here http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ its been pushed to master and is considered stable? |
19:23 | chris | yes |
19:23 | chris_n | cool |
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19:24 | chris | for everything with a bug number, im pushing a branch, then merging it |
19:24 | that should hopefully make it easier for you | |
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19:25 | chris | ill do my list of patches pushed each day as well |
19:25 | its really easy to do, cos its just a git repo | |
19:25 | * chris | like ikiwiki a lot |
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19:48 | pianohack | Hallo |
19:50 | * chris_n | slaps pianohack on the back and says "Howdy!" |
19:50 | pianohack | hey chris_n |
19:50 | How's it going? | |
19:50 | chris_n | fast and furious :-) |
19:51 | pianohack | Good or bad? I've had good fast days and ... bad fast days |
19:59 | larsw | chris, yay, ikiwiki! |
20:01 | chris_n | pianohack: mostly good |
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20:31 | hdl | chris : is it gitosisgit.koha-community.org or gitolitegit.koha-community.org ? |
20:31 | (to push I mean) | |
20:32 | chris | gitmaster |
20:32 | gitmastergit.koha-community.org | |
20:33 | so i have a pre-commit hook, that runs compile tests .. can run perlcritic and perltidy too, but disabled at the moment, ill push up the branch with it in soon so you can test | |
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20:44 | hdl | thanks |
20:48 | chris : is that githook sending back the compile errors so user can easily fix the errors ? | |
20:48 | chris | yep |
20:51 | like this | |
20:51 | # Failed test 'use C4::Auth_with_ldap;' | |
20:51 | # at t/00-load.t line 18. | |
20:51 | # Tried to use 'C4::Auth_with_ldap'. | |
20:51 | # Error: No "ldapserver" in server hash from KOHA_CONF: /home/chrisc/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml | |
20:52 | im gonna drop that out of the critical tests | |
20:53 | hdl | chris 8-) |
20:53 | neat | |
20:54 | I am rebasing on master. I think it is right ? | |
20:54 | chris | yup |
20:56 | hdl | chris : is there a way to do git gc on gitosis servers ? |
20:57 | chris | not sure |
20:57 | hdl | (I know I could make a cronjob on the server.) |
20:57 | But I donot know whether i could break anything. | |
21:00 | and rebase will create many objects. | |
21:00 | (commits objects) | |
21:00 | So we have to remove those... | |
21:01 | gmcharlt | hdl: git gc can be croned |
21:01 | and isn't particularly dangerious | |
21:01 | hdl | good. |
21:02 | Have you tested that ? | |
21:02 | hi gmcharlt | |
21:03 | Is that you who were on the juice integration part for koha ? | |
21:05 | gmcharlt | no |
21:06 | hdl | were you part of the decision takers ? |
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21:12 | hdl | chris: should I commit a Plack branch ? Or will you ? |
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21:12 | chris | you can, ill poke at it |
21:13 | make it a wip branch | |
21:13 | hdl | chris: ok. |
21:13 | chris | so people dont try to actually use it yet |
21:13 | hdl | in git.koha-community or in new/koha-biblibre repo ? |
21:14 | chris | id put it in your repo |
21:14 | hdl | k |
21:14 | have you made any other changes before testing ? | |
21:14 | schuster | Chris - I wanted to thank you for all your hard work in getting kohacon10 off the ground. Sorry I wasn't able to attend, but look forward to the next few months to see how 3.4 will come along! |
21:14 | hdl | schuster++ |
21:15 | actually | |
21:15 | chris++ | |
21:15 | schuster | When we had it in Plano I didn't realize how valuable that Hackfest was going to be... But then again my wife didn't understand either so.... |
21:16 | by all have a great time without me... home again home again! | |
21:17 | chris | hdl: nope |
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21:19 | chris | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]s/heads/git-hooks |
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21:22 | chris | hdl: try that out |
21:22 | hdl | oh Dancer hack :) |
21:23 | committers should make links to their websites :D | |
21:33 | chris_n3 was kicked by chris_n: chris_n3 | |
21:33 | chris_n | hehehe |
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21:39 | brendan | heya sekjal |
21:40 | sekjal | morning, brendan |
21:40 | chris_n | howdy brendan and sekjal |
21:41 | brendan | heya chris_n |
21:41 | sekjal | hey, chris_n |
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21:47 | Genji | hiya all.. what are available marc fields available for library's custom use? |
21:48 | jcamins | Genji: you could use whatever fields you wanted. In MARC21, x9x and 9xx fields (except for 490) are not defined by the standard. |
21:48 | Koha uses 942 and 952, but I think you could change that if you really wanted to. | |
22:07 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5050 move language prefs to I18N/L10N tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]96799c912d3f3fdd7> / bug 5151 removed bolded terms in breadcrumbs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3206c875bbe2ba157> / bug 5237: Testing renewals on patron barcodes with + signs at the end <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git |
22:17 | wasabi | http://letsgetdugg.com/2009/04[…]ce-leaks-in-perl/ |
22:20 | sekjal | I've got my C4 Dependencies script to recursively walk all of C4, and spit out its findings in .dot format |
22:21 | hoping to drop that into Graphviz on the plane ride home, and see something useful | |
22:22 | chris | awesome |
22:26 | sekjal | still need a little more logic to keep it from processing lines in the POD... probably a some kind of exit once it spots a line beginning with "=" would work |
22:27 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/for-3.4/spelling' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]79d0fae4af96abaa0> |
22:29 | hdl | @later tell slef http://groups.google.com/group[…]/d7230db4e8fa6adb |
22:29 | munin | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
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22:54 | hdl | chris are we going together for lunch ? |
22:54 | chris | i have a meeting at 12.30 .. i think paul and you were invited to the meeting too? |
22:56 | hdl | only paul as far as i know. |
22:56 | chris | ahh |
22:56 | maybe you should go with mason and brooke for lunch? | |
22:57 | hdl | they already went ;) |
22:57 | chris | ah ha |
22:57 | hdl | that's ok. |
22:57 | chris | is sekjal around? |
22:57 | hdl | I'll see |
22:57 | yes. (on phone) | |
22:58 | jcamins | hdl: if it makes you feel any better, I didn't have lunch with any Koha people today. ;) |
22:58 | hdl | :D |
22:58 | * hdl | sending you a virtual big breakfast.... |
22:59 | jcamins | :D |
22:59 | robin | I'm up for lunch if people want :) |
23:00 | gmcharlt | let's make it a transpacific lunch-dinner meeting :) |
23:01 | robin | I dunno, IRC and food don't mix. Everyone knows you can't dissolve IRC in food. |
23:01 | hdl: or have you left already? | |
23:01 | hdl | still there. |
23:02 | ok for me. | |
23:02 | robin | cool, let me know when you're thinking of going. I'm getting tired of trying to bend MARC to my will. |
23:02 | hdl | I'll ask sekjal |
23:02 | jcamins | robin: what is your will that MARC will not bend to? |
23:03 | robin | jcamins: oh, just that I have multiple fields rather than one field with multiple subfields. It's not so much MARC's issue, just that it's adding to my converstion script, which is already 90% special cases. |
23:04 | and is now 1068 lines long, to convert CSV to MARC. | |
23:04 | jcamins | Ah. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. |
23:08 | hdl | (MARC is not really a handy format for data manipulation ;) ) |
23:08 | robin | that is certainly the truth |
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23:12 | hdl | robin: ok we can go now if you want |
23:12 | robin | hdl: sure, I'll pop down to L3 in a minute |
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