IRC log for #koha, 2010-10-30

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00:17 gmcharlt nengard: signed off on your patches (and fixed the typo)
00:17 * gmcharlt tries, but fails, to avoid asking if a pres editor is available only during election years
00:19 sekjal_a is now known as sekjal
00:19 nengard thanks gmcharlt
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01:04 * robin_ sends a small packaging fix patch
01:04 robin_ and now starts working on the harder bits
01:06 nengard bengard is installing Koha - this is so exciting!!
01:07 dafydd So I updated Koha with Git through kohamc
01:08 and it blew up :-(
01:08 http://68.144.45.146/
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01:20 dafydd I'm sure this has been brought up already, but http://wiki.koha.org/ is down
01:20 and http://lists.koha-community.or[…]stinfo/koha-devel is down
01:21 cait dafydd: it is not down, it has been replaced
01:21 wiki.koha-community.org
01:21 slef moo
01:21 cait moo?
01:21 slef moo
01:21 * cait looks confused
01:21 dafydd Ah, some links need to be fixed then
01:21 slef redacting list mails is a bit of a no-no
01:21 cait yeah, but we can't fix links on koha.org
01:21 slef but most links should be fixed
01:22 at least, ones that koha community people have
01:22 dafydd Yeah, the links were on http://koha.org/about/get-involved/development
01:22 gmcharlt dafydd: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]stinfo/koha-devel is the correct link
01:23 slef dafydd: take that up with the domain squatter
01:24 http://koha-community.org/get-[…]d/for-developers/
01:24 is a better start
01:24 dafydd Sweet, thanks cait slef gmcharlt
01:27 slef np
01:51 jcamins_a Looks like people are busy.
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01:52 wizzyrea heroo
01:52 darling nengard, wizzyrea -- http://reedwade.net/kohacon10/manual/
01:52 slef yeah, I'm trying to reconcile our trees
01:52 darling have a look at that pdf
01:52 let me know if it's right headed
01:52 19m
01:52 slef so 3.0.x.co-op can die
01:52 jcamins_a paul_p++ # for posting the list of patches to the wiki
01:52 jcamins_a is now known as jcamins
01:53 jcamins slef++ # for trying to reconcile all his changes to Koha
01:53 Ooh! BibLibre has a "default" option for authority searching!
01:53 paul_p yep ;-)
01:54 jcamins Biblio bulkedit?!?
01:54 paul_p and we still lack default auth framework for marc21. If you want to do it, candidate on the wiki ;-)
01:54 jcamins :D
01:54 Ooh, and you fixed CoiNS?
01:55 paul_p jcamins, like item bulk edit : create a list of biblionumber (in cart for example), and in a few clics, you can add a given marc field/subfield, or remove one
01:55 on every biblio
01:56 jcamins That's fantastic.
01:57 * jcamins can't wait for that feature to be added
01:57 jcamins (to master)
02:04 slef ooh I now have a much simpler git log --graph to consider
02:04 jcamins Yay!
02:04 slef unfortunately, I also have an AWOL koha server to consider
02:05 :-/
02:05 I wonder if interislander has wifi
02:08 gmcharlt anybody about who is good with icons?
02:09 * jcamins is not
02:09 jcamins Unless you mean "is this Greek or Russian Orthodox?"
02:10 gmcharlt alas, no :)
02:11 jcamins cait++ # a successful rebase!
02:11 cait hi jcamins :9
02:11 :)
02:11 and I am writing unit tests right now
02:11 very basic unit tests
02:11 but still it's fun :)
02:11 jcamins :)
02:12 cait: so are you going to teach me how to write unit tests?
02:12 cait hm
02:12 probably the kind I am doing right now will be done after the hackfest
02:12 not sure we will learn aobut the more complicated ones too
02:13 jcamins cait: so you can build on your knowledge and learn how to do the complicated ones, then teach me.
02:18 cait I will ty
02:18 try
02:19 chris took us as an example for signing-off each others patches
02:19 gmcharlt hdl: paul_p: do you know if there is a French version of http://archive.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/uni.htm (hopefully referring to a more recent version of the standard) that permits linking to individual tags?
02:19 cait jcamins: so we have to do it now - let me know if you have a patch for me :)
02:19 paul_p gmcharlt, not at all, sorry :(
02:20 jcamins cait: you can sign off the patch I sent to the list.
02:20 Actually, both you and paul_p need to sign off on it.
02:21 * jcamins is looking for the bug now
02:21 jcamins Bug 5311.
02:21 cait hm?
02:21 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5311 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Language dropdown in advanced search broken?
02:21 cait oh ok
02:21 :)
02:21 I will try to remember! but plz remind me
02:22 jcamins Oh, I will.
02:22 I really want that patch in Koha, because if it's not in Koha, the simple cataloging interface doesn't work.
02:22 although, actually, I think there also needs to be another part which makes the changes in the database.
02:22 I will ask chris or gmcharlt about that.
02:22 (I just realized)
02:23 gmcharlt jcamins: that patch looks fine to me, it just needs a database update as well
02:25 rms so, im attempting to install koha
02:25 does it work well with mysql and apache?
02:25 jcamins Where's the updater script?
02:25 I can't seem to find it.
02:26 rms: yes, MySQL and Apache are recommended.
02:26 rms i am hosting it on Darwin, does that make any difference?
02:26 or is Linux recommended?
02:26 gmcharlt jcamins: installer/database/mysql/updatadatabase.pl
02:27 jcamins rms: most people use Linux, but I got it running under FreeBSD, so I'd think you could get it running under Darwin.
02:27 rms OK
02:27 jcamins gmcharlt: Ah, thank you.
02:27 brendan_l http://git.bywatersolutions.com  ## anybody got recommendations for colors :)
02:27 rms jcamins: thanks
02:27 brendan_l bbias
02:28 jcamins gmcharlt: just hand-code the SQL?
02:28 gmcharlt yep
02:29 brendan_l my favorite gitweb so far is kohaaloha
02:29 gmcharlt and unless chris tells you something different, set the version number to 3.03.00.XXX
02:29 chris will take care of setting the real version number
02:34 brendan_l: some suggestions - it looks like you've put up a working repo - a bare repository is better
02:34 you'll also want to edit the description
02:34 and add a cloneurl file
02:35 jcamins gmcharlt: how do I test my updatedatabase.pl changes?
02:36 I thought that would run automatically, but it didn't.
02:36 gmcharlt you would need to temporarily bump up the version number in kohaversion.pl and set a numeric version in updatedatabase.pl
02:37 having a mysqldump of your database to restore from if something blows up is also a good idea
02:37 jcamins Ah.
02:37 gmcharlt and you can manually change the value of the Version syspref to force an update
02:41 jcamins Whoops.
02:41 Didn't work.
02:43 Weird.
02:43 Apparently backticks have a particular meaning.
02:43 I never knew that.
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02:46 brendan back but over here
02:47 jcamins Do you include the angle braces in the Message ID?
02:47 brendan yup gmcharlt  (a working branch)
02:48 gmcharlt jcamins: ? in a git-send-email?
02:48 jcamins Yes.
02:48 Sorry, I'm sending the revised patch.
02:48 gmcharlt you shouldn't have to touch that at all
02:48 jcamins Well, but I already sent a patch to the list, so don't I have to make the revised one a response?
02:51 gmcharlt I suppose, but not something I personally would worry too much about
02:52 jcamins Okay, all sent.
02:52 Argh!
02:52 Never mind.
02:52 I must have amended it a second time.
02:52 gmcharlt parameter!
02:53 jcamins Parameter?
02:53 gmcharlt weak pun on argument vs. parameter
02:54 jcamins Ah.
02:54 brendan jcamins++ and gmcharlt++  #glad you're hacking - at least until midnight right?
02:56 * jcamins is going to bed now, actually
02:56 * chris_n2 stops in for a moment
02:56 jcamins In a little while.
02:57 gmcharlt jcamins: ok, I see you sent your latest - testing it now
02:58 brendan ah jcamins you're good for another hour right
02:59 jcamins brendan: I would be, except tomorrow I have to do work, too.
02:59 brendan yeah - but there is always coffee
02:59 gmcharlt brendan: I take it you want to get closer to halloween before people turn into pumpkins? :)
03:00 brendan :D
03:00 jcamins Plus, my development machine won't turn on without a keyboard, and my wife is using her computer, which has our only keyboard. ;)
03:00 gmcharlt: you're in an excellent mood this evening.
03:00 * chris_n2 passes jcamins one of his zillion keyboards
03:01 brendan jcamins - if you need a spot to ssh into a koha box (I've got a few kicking around)
03:02 jcamins Tempting (very!), but I'm trying to virtuous here. ;)
03:02 Wow! Everything from BibLibre was successfully rebased to master, tested, and found working?
03:04 Okay, I'm going to drag myself away and go to sleep.
03:04 Good night, #koha
03:04 gmcharlt jcamins: did you mean this - $dbh->do("UPDATE language_rfc4646_to_iso639 SET iso639_2_code='it' WHERE rfc4646_subtag='ita';");
03:05 jcamins Whoops, no I did not.
03:05 gmcharlt brendan: see how clever I am at keeping jcamins up? ;)
03:05 jcamins I meant iso639_2_code='ita' WHERE rfc4646_subtag='it'
03:05 gmcharlt jcamins: I thought so - I'll take care of the correction and post a followup
03:05 brendan jcamins - no going to bed for you
03:05 jcamins And this just goes to show how pernicious that particular bug is.
03:05 Thanks.
03:06 Enjoy the rest of the hackfest, everyone!
03:06 :)
03:06 jcamins is now known as jcamins_a
03:06 brendan jcamins_a you're a new yorker so you should be used to the "no soup for you"
03:07 jcamins_a brendan: but I live in NY, so I can't afford a TV. :P
03:07 Of course, I recognized the reference anyway...
03:07 brendan rabit ears dood
03:08 * jcamins_a also prefers to hack Koha than watch TV
03:08 jcamins_a And now I *really* am going to night. Despite all the clever efforts at drawing me back into conversation!
03:08 gmcharlt :)
03:08 good night
03:08 wizzyrea jcamins! Cookies
03:08 !
03:10 * chris_n2 bemoans the fact that his vpn is down and so he is locked inside of a win32 box
03:11 chris_n2 else he would hack too
03:11 wizzyrea d'oh
03:15 hdl gmcharlt: here you are : http://www.bnf.fr/fr/professio[…]liographique.html
03:16 gmcharlt hdl: thanks
03:17 alas, lots of PDFs, not quite so good for linking from the bib editor
03:18 hdl gmcharlt: alas...
03:18 the only source for french UNIMARC on the web ...
03:18 and up to date.
03:19 bloody Normalization commitees.
03:23 brendan bengard++
03:23 wizzyrea bless him, he's had a hard road to that first patch
03:24 gmcharlt bengard++
03:24 brendan so is that the first wife-husband combo dev's with patches?
03:26 chris_n2 bengard++
03:28 brendan man I need to get my wife to hack - you rule bengard++ and nengard++
03:28 gmcharlt brendan: I'm just waiting for the spud to grow up faster so that we can have a mother-son team hacking Koha
03:29 brendan heh - that would be awesome
03:29 bengard brendan: thanks
03:29 nengard later i will show him a bit more - but like wizzyrea said it was a hard road getting koha installed
03:29 bengard I need a beer now
03:29 brendan maybe chris will beat them to the punch
03:29 wizzyrea lol
03:29 maybe spud will do the iOS app
03:29 (blasphemy, I know)
03:29 brendan unless gmcharlt cat's hack too ;)
03:29 wizzyrea kitty children count!
03:30 gmcharlt brendan: alas, I cringe and reach for the cleaning supplies when I hear my cats hack
03:30 wizzyrea ..not THAT kind of hacking
03:30 ew.
03:30 gmcharlt alas, it's the only kind they seem to know
03:30 wizzyrea fair enough, they're probably more hacker support staff anyway
03:30 keeping you fueled with purring
03:31 brendan ok so I guess gmcharlt and his cat's hack
03:31 gmcharlt support staff, mood uplifter, random keypress generators ... the whole package
03:31 hdl http://biblibre.pastebin.com/KTDeMK22
03:31 gmcharlt why yes, my random number generator has pointy ears and whiskers
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03:44 bengard gmcharlt: is it Spock?
03:44 after not having shaved?
03:45 gmcharlt bengard: heh - http://www.flickr.com/photos/g[…]2157602776641761/
03:45 bengard those are very cute random number generators
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03:47 wizzyrea CYOOT KITTEH!
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03:55 * brendan wonders if gmcharlt is still going?
03:55 gmcharlt brendan: you forgot to specify which time zone midnight was relative to
03:56 brendan sweet
04:00 gmcharlt owen++ # patch for 4991 results in a net reduction of lines
04:01 * chris_n2 just learned that working on a box in a different time zone requires one to adjust ones internal clock a bit
04:01 brendan HA
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04:14 slef mmm, end of hack day do you think?
04:14 chris_n2: utc everywhere!
04:14 brendan seems like it
04:15 except gmcharlt and chris_n2 are still going
04:17 slef they're not being kicked out by chris +co
04:19 brendan heh
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04:25 sekjal goodnight, #koha! good work everyone, hackfesters and others
04:25 brendan cheers
04:25 sekjal more tomorrow
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04:42 chris_n2 mass exodus
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04:43 brendan bye all
04:43 :)
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04:56 bigbrovar Hi guys. I was wondering what the best way to enter isbn numbers for marc 020 field if I want koha to take advantage of the amazon enhanced content.  do I enter isbn with hyphen or spaces or without them/
04:56 ?
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04:57 brendan bigbrovar - IRC I think 10 digit ISBN is the best way to go
04:58 gmcharlt 13 digit ISBN should be better
04:58 recent books don't have 10-digit ISBNs
04:58 brendan thanks gmcharlt
04:58 bigbrovar brendan: thanks. And should there be hyphens or spaces btw the numbers? or just the digits
04:58 thanks gmcharlt i would pass that across to the librarians
04:59 brendan isn't there a ISBN-normalization rules that take care of that?
04:59 gmcharlt brendan: yes
05:00 * brendan ah memory doesn't fail me that quickly
05:00 bigbrovar there still do their cataloging on spreadsheet which I have to pick migrate to marc (not an easy task i swear) and then import to koha.
05:01 in their isbn field I noticed they have hyphens in btw the numbers so I used vi to replace the hyphens with spaces. maybe I should just remove them and leave just the numbers?
05:01 brendan have you seen the csvtomarc.pl script written by robin
05:01 that would make things easier
05:02 bigbrovar really? no I use this marcedit tool which only runs on windows, so I had to install xp on virtualbox fot that. would defo check it out
05:03 brendan http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eads/csvmigration
05:03 dig around in there a little bit
05:03 bigbrovar thanks
05:03 robin http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]/heads/pnf_import <-- this version is newer I think, might be more helpful
05:04 brendan thanks robin++
05:04 yeah there are some great tools in there
05:05 you can create your stub marc records from csv and then import those into a koha database -- then use one of the scripts to dig those ISBN's out of the koha database and get you good marc records through Z3950
05:05 something like that
05:06 robin that's what we do, get as much as we can out of the CSV and then update what we can via Z39.50
05:07 brendan yup pretty damn sweet
05:07 changed the z3950 source to something local to you or something that is realiable
05:08 I believe robin's script is using the NZnat lib
05:08 of course not saying NZnatlib isn't realiable
05:08 robin the csvtomarc script doesn't do Z39.50, but yeah, I have another script somewhere that does use that.
05:09 Something local is likely to have a more complete catalogue for regional items though.
05:09 brendan http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]/heads/pnf_import
05:09 I think
05:09 robin ah yep
05:10 brendan btw - it pays to read through the stuff that is commented out - it maybe helpful for you
05:11 * brendan feels that gmcharlt will be submitting more patches now that he isn't the QA :)
05:12 gmcharlt brendan: of course, just about every patch I've sent in the past few days has been for a QA reason of one kind or another
05:13 robin gmcharlt: you're doing it wrong :)
05:14 gmcharlt not necessarily - testing and signoffs are part of the QA process, after all :)
05:14 robin fair point I suppose :)
05:14 * chris_n2 passes around strong coffee
05:21 chris_n2 and I thought I made good coffee :-)
05:22 brendan heh
05:22 * brendan heads home again
05:23 brendan catch you all from there
05:36 brendan_l back
05:36 @later tell sekjal Happy Halloween!
05:36 munin brendan_l: The operation succeeded.
05:41 * gmcharlt heads to bead
05:41 realizes that would be uncomfortable to sleep on, heads to bed instead
05:47 chris_n2 badly_constructed_sql--
05:58 robin not_saving_file_before_you_test--
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06:16 chris_n2 ouch!
06:16 * chris_n2 squashes bug 4254
06:16 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4254 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED, adding new patron advanced notice doesn't save
06:16 chris_n2 now... to sleep
06:17 many thanks brendan_l
06:53 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5322 - Added pwgen dependency <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5d5342fc41460dcf6>
07:03 hudsonbot Starting build 91 for job Koha (previous build: FIXED)
07:03 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Add basic unit tests to some C4 modules <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb210cbfff6a32be2> / create unit test files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]22bc96ac0de5c601e> / Adding a simple test for Service.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8fdcbe68a0e84dfbd
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07:11 hudsonbot Project Koha build (91): SUCCESS in 8 min 48 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/91/
07:13 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5327: Add basic unit tests to some C4 modules <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cbde452c936aa530c>
07:17 hudsonbot Starting build 92 for job Koha (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:23 munin New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'kc/new/bug5075' into kcmaster <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6a02ce6c1650ec59f> / bug 5146: patron import files require header row <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7fdf57c860b6b4851> / Fix for Bug 5075 - Terms not highlighted w/ xslt on <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]koha.git;a=commit
07:32 chris wizzyrea_: pushed your patch
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07:32 hudsonbot Project Koha build (92): UNSTABLE in 14 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/92/
07:32 * Robin Sheat: Bug 5322 - Added pwgen dependency
07:32 * Liz Rea: Adding a simple test for Service.pm
07:32 * Nicole Engard: create unit test files
07:32 * Katrin Fischer: Bug 5327: Add basic unit tests to some C4 modules
07:32 * Magnus Enger: Bug 5327: Add basic unit tests to some C4 modules
07:32 * Galen Charlton: bug 5146: patron import files require header row
07:32 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5322 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, robin, ASSIGNED, pwgen not a dependency for the packages
07:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Unit tests required for all C4 modules
07:32 wizzyrea_ I saw!
07:32 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5146 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Patron Import Requires Header Row
07:32 hudsonbot Starting build 93 for job Koha (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last UNSTABLE #92 15 min ago)
07:33 wizzyrea_ uhoh
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07:33 chris unit tests doing their job!
07:33 magnus cool!
07:33 chris pushed them, and they found some bugs
07:33 * chris will fix
07:34 magnus chris++
07:34 wizzyrea_ chris++
07:34 magnus sweet as!
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07:39 cait cool :)
07:39 chris++
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07:43 chris wizzyrea_: http://www.flickr.com/photos/r[…]8/in/photostream/
07:43 wizzyrea_ i know.... omg adorable
07:43 the little engine that could, best book ever
07:44 chris one bug fixed
07:47 wizzyrea_ woohooo
07:48 chris and that should be the other one
07:48 magnus chris: you mean our super-simple tests helped find real bugs? that's awesome!
07:48 chris well, they found 2 modules not installed on the hudson server
07:48 so yes, they did their job
07:49 wizzyrea_ hehe wooot!
07:49 chris !hudsonbot build
07:49 hudsonbot chris did you mean me? Unknown command 'bot'
07:49 Use !hudsonhelp to get help!
07:49 chris !hudson build
07:49 hudsonbot chris: Error, syntax is: 'build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]*'
07:49 chris !hudson build koha now
07:49 hudsonbot chris: job koha build scheduled now
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07:49 hudsonbot Project Koha build (93): STILL UNSTABLE in 16 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/93/
07:49 Owen Leonard: Fix for Bug 5075 - Terms not highlighted w/ xslt on
07:49 Starting build 94 for job Koha (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last STILL UNSTABLE #93 16 min ago)
07:49 chris !hudson status
07:49 hudsonbot status of all projects:
07:49 Koha(BUILDING: 17 sec and counting): last build: 93 (16 min ago): UNSTABLE: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/93/
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07:51 chris how was dinner?
07:51 magnus chris: that's still cool ;-)
07:51 wizzyrea_ very yum
07:54 that place was tiny but delish
07:54 magnus gmcharlt++ # for signing off on lots of patches
07:55 yeah, the food was great!
07:55 chris yep, i go there a lot
07:55 cait yep, good food
07:55 chris healthy too
07:55 wizzyrea_ :D
07:57 magnus makes me almost want to live a place that is a little bit more urban than bod�...
07:57 @wunder bodo, norway
07:57 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0�C (9:50 AM CEST on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Windchill: -4.0�C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady).
07:58 magnus ouch
07:58 wizzyrea_ it's 9 in my hometown
07:58 brr
07:58 @wunder lawrence, ks
07:58 munin wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 12.3�C (3:12 AM CDT on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 1.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1013.8 hPa (Falling).
07:58 wizzyrea_ ah, mac weather says 9
07:58 @wunder 66047
07:58 munin wizzyrea_: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 11.7�C (3:12 AM CDT on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Steady).
08:00 magnus @wunder wellington, nz
08:00 munin magnus: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (9:00 PM NZDT on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039 hPa (Steady).
08:00 magnus yay
08:01 cait @wunder Konstanz
08:01 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0�C (10:00 AM CEST on October 30, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
08:01 cait could be worse
08:02 chris larsw approves of your work today people http://identi.ca/conversation/[…]5#notice-57698529
08:03 larsw :)
08:03 wizzyrea_ ooo
08:03 he's here!
08:03 hi larsw!
08:03 larsw greetings and salutations, wizzyrea_
08:04 hudsonbot Yippie, build fixed!
08:04 Project Koha build (94): FIXED in 15 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/94/
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08:05 magnus woohoo
08:05 nengard :)
08:05 magnus hi nengard!
08:05 nengard good evening
08:06 cait hi nengard :)
08:06 nengard hello all - i see chris is busy at work pushing our patches
08:06 now we just have to update the history with the two new committers :)
08:09 chris larsw: http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/
08:09 i havent pushed daniel or brian yet
08:09 will do that tomorrow
08:09 so they can watch hudson run their new tests
08:09 larsw chris, whee!
08:10 magnus is that the wiki thing for the patches?
08:10 chris im gonna use it to try and keep track of patches i have to merge etc
08:10 yes magnus
08:10 magnus ;-)
08:12 larsw chris, do you want to pay for that or do you want to have it for free under the free software project offer?
08:13 chris nz vs australia in rugby, starts on sky sports in 5 mins
08:13 wizzyrea_ OOOO
08:13 chris larsw: im happy to pay for it
08:13 larsw chris, cool :)
08:13 chris the money goes to people i like :)
08:13 larsw why, thank you, kind sir :)
08:15 nengard more photos uploaded
08:15 chris cool
08:16 chris larsw: http://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/5113928450/  i call this one, "when debian developers meet"
08:17 larsw heh
08:17 nengard tomorrow i need help creating a branch of the manual so that i can keep 3.2 and 3.4 separate
08:17 larsw oh yeah, 3.2 got released? congratulations!
08:18 chris nengard: can do :)
08:18 nengard awesome
08:19 and if somoene can teach me to take pics like kristina that would be good too :) hehe - her stuff is awesome
08:19 wizzyrea_ and probably tomorrow I'll have the pdf auto generate
08:19 nengard mine is hit or miss
08:19 * larsw is a bit behind the times
08:19 nengard woo hoo wizzyrea_
08:19 wizzyrea_ maybe even the pretty urls, we'll see
08:19 chris anthems about to be played, then the haka
08:20 * wizzyrea_ is watching
08:20 chris :)
08:20 wizzyrea_ I like rugby, for some strange reason
08:21 magnus yeah, that is strange... ;-)
08:23 chris we win the anthems imho
08:23 hehe
08:23 wizzyrea_ lol
08:23 cept only half your team knows it lol
08:24 is there someting wrong with her teeth?
08:24 lol
08:24 chris its her lipstick
08:24 wizzyrea_ Ohhhh
08:24 chris here we go!!
08:25 * wizzyrea_ cheers
08:26 claps
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08:31 nengard this we could get away with this in NZ?  http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/2097402105/
08:31 i miss my babies
08:31 BobB Any Kiwis here?  I'm watching the Bledisloe.  Early pressure from the Wallabies.
08:32 chris yep, lucky bad kicking
08:33 magnus nengard: i don't think i would try that coming into nz... ;-)
08:33 nengard hehe
08:34 BobB A tap.  Aggressive or dumb?
08:34 chris time will tell
08:35 there you go, good decision
08:35 BobB Not much time.  Try Australia!!
08:36 Gee, we'll have to kick some goals though.
08:38 wizzyrea_ soren just went "OH SNAP!"
08:39 nengard LOL
08:39 chris gonna be a tight game
08:42 BobB Yeah, Blacks so strong at the breakdown.
08:43 chris franks is all over robinson  in the scrum
08:47 BobB Chris I think the surface will end up being a factor in this game.  I think Carter was affected by it then.
08:47 chris yeah, its pretty choppy, looks like really hard to plant your feet
08:48 BobB No-one can kick.
08:48 chris yeah, cant plant that front foot
08:49 nice try
08:50 BobB Great break, great try!
08:51 And finally a goal.  12-0.  But its early yet ...
08:55 chris scrum is the only thing working for us
08:57 wizzyrea_ golly rugby is fun to watch
08:57 chris yup :)
08:58 BobB Blacks are back!
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08:58 BobB wizzyrea:  You're enjoying this more than me now!
08:59 wizzyrea_ lol
08:59 you'd be enjoying it if you had a 2 year old doing the best commentary ever
08:59 :)
08:59 he's not interested in bed. sigh.
09:00 BobB Ouch!  This could get ugly.
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09:03 BobB Plus Carter can kick.  12-14 now.  Time for me to go to bed?
09:04 chris heh
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09:09 chris you could trick him and say its finished now wizzyrea_
09:10 BobB Yes Liz.  Half time will go for at least 10 mins.  Big chance!
09:11 12-17.  Unless Deanes fixes the scrum, the Wallabies are finished.
09:12 chris yeah, might be a early sub for the front row
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09:32 BobB Robinson subbed off - you picked it.
09:34 chris might be slipping away now i think
09:35 holes appearing a bit too easily
09:35 BobB Yeah, good try.  No way back I suspect.
09:41 chris theres still time
09:43 BobB BACK !!!! 19-24
10:03 OMG!!
10:04 chris yep, donald
10:04 hes never getting another game
10:05 they deserved that, nz went to sleep
10:05 BobB Cometh the hour ..... James O'Connor you good thing.  26-24 !!
10:07 Such awesome All Blacks defense.  I'd like to feel for them - but they've had their turn.  Its ours tonight.
10:07 chris quade cooper made no friends tho, lucky there is a year before they play again
10:08 :)
10:08 slef moo
10:09 chris hey slef, hows the south island
10:09 slef dark
10:09 BobB LOL
10:09 slef picton seems to be a ghost town, bars closed on Sat night
10:10 maybe everyone's in sports barsa somewqhere
10:10 BobB Private party somewhere for the Bledisloe
10:10 chris picton is closed most nights
10:10 its an odd place
10:10 BobB NZ?
10:11 slef oh well, not here long... tomorrow touring starts
10:11 chris where first?
10:11 slef yep NZ
10:11 Nelson then vineyards
10:12 BobB MJ, the Marlborough Sav Blancs are sensational.  Enjoy.
10:13 chris cool :)
10:14 right, time for sleep i think
10:15 slef bbl
10:15 cait yep, good night all!
10:17 BobB Good night all.
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11:46 gmcharlt chris: missing deps on hudsonbot's server - was that it?
12:23 chris_n2 bugs.
12:23 g'morning
12:24 gmcharlt good morning
12:24 chris_n2 hudson is on the bugs server
12:24 gmcharlt right, I know that
12:26 * chris_n2 was up too late and can't read :-P
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14:11 bigbrovar hi guys. after a long hard time, I was able to succefully setup koha and migrate all our spreadsheet based catalog record to marc 21.  for a complete library noob and relatively linux newbie I could not have gone far without you guys. Thanks
14:12 The opac is working fine now and I hope to annouce the availability to the rest of the school community.
14:12 More or less everything is working fine barring some minor issues here and there nothing major though
14:15 one the issues I am having is getting search filter by libraries branch  to work.  it always displaces this error No results match your search for “kw,wrdl: math branch:Computer Center Science Library” even though most of the search entries are from that libary
14:15 I don't know if the issue is a bug (am running v30.6) or if am not doing something right
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18:04 cait good morning
18:24 chris hiya cait
18:24 cait hi chris
18:26 we start at 10?
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18:33 chris yup
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18:36 cait my last day :(
18:38 paul_p cait, about ?
18:39 cait here
18:39 paul_p in 10mn at breakfast room, is it possible for you ?
18:39 cait thx for asking paul, but I think I need abit more time
18:39 paul_p how many "more" ?
18:40 cait hm
18:40 paul_p well, we will head to lunch in 10mn or something like that. We leave for the mass at 8:45 not later
18:40 feel free to join ;-)
18:40 cait ok, thank you. :)
18:48 ok, I am on my way
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19:36 brendan morning all
19:37 chris Hi brendan
19:37 brendan yo chris
19:38 they just had the tiny halloween parade around our complex (all the little kids maybe about 100) all dressed up
19:38 was fun and wicked cute
19:38 so I guess "happy ween" to you all in NZ
19:38 chris Heheh cool
19:38 gmcharlt cute
19:38 chris Thanks
19:39 My sister found a costume for soren
19:39 brendan no way
19:39 chris So we hope to do something with the kids tonight
19:39 brendan yeah that's great
19:40 chris Russ is taking nate for a mountain bike today I think
19:41 brendan ah cool - yeah Nate said that
19:41 that sounds so great
19:45 chris Its a bit cold
19:45 brendan ah they will have to pedal faster to stay warm
19:45 gmcharlt speak of cold, you have no idea how happy I am that today is a real autumn day here in Gainesville
19:46 chris :)
19:48 Lee is sea kayaking today
19:49 brendan ah nice - but the best one sounds more like this "chris is hacking today" :)
19:50 chris Heh
19:51 gmcharlt if the waters are sufficiently calm, perhaps the activities could be combined?
19:51 chris Pushing more patches, talking and helping ppl with branching and merging
19:51 That's my plan for today
19:52 chris_n: hudson is watching 3.2.x now too
19:52 If you want to cherry pick the bug fix commits and unit tests back
19:52 That should kick off a build
19:53 I need to talk with fredericd too
19:53 Shift all the translation stuff
19:53 So I can turn the old site off
19:53 cait :)
19:53 gmcharlt chris: how does it distinguish between 3.2.x and master?
19:54 chris And reclaim my machine at home for a koha test server
19:54 gmcharlt do they both feed into the same "Koha" project?
19:54 chris Yup
19:54 I could make a diff project
19:54 We'll see how it goes
19:54 If its confusing ill make 2 projects
19:55 gmcharlt it will get confusing eventually
19:55 as they diverge
19:55 chris Yup
19:55 I might split them today
19:56 Robin and I are going to make the build make the packages too, for the dev ones if tests pass
19:56 But probably not today for that
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20:00 chris Branching the manual today too
20:04 Right my stop bbiab
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20:49 brendan morning NZ
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21:25 chris !hudson status
21:25 hudsonbot status of all projects:
21:25 Koha: last build: 94 (13 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://bugs.koha-community.org:8080/job/Koha/94/
21:25 Koha 3.2.x: no finished build yet
21:25 munin New commit(s) kohagit: unit test stub for Z3950.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]234b4fab734fbaab3> / Create Unit Test for ImportBatch <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c5a865cba7acf3e2>
21:26 chris !hudson status
21:26 hudsonbot status of all projects:
21:26 Koha 3.2.x: no finished build yet
21:26 Koha Master: last build: 94 (13 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]Koha%20Master/94/
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21:28 gmcharlt chris++
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21:30 chris !hudson status
21:30 hudsonbot status of all projects:
21:30 Koha 3.0.x: no finished build yet
21:30 Koha 3.2.x: no finished build yet
21:30 Koha Master: last build: 94 (13 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]Koha%20Master/94/
21:30 chris there we go
21:30 magnus yay
21:30 robin_ hudsonbot: ��
21:30 hudsonbot robin_ did you mean me? Unknown command '��'
21:30 Use !hudsonhelp to get help!
21:31 chris master should kick off a build in 1 minute
21:36 hdl !hudsonhelp
21:36 hudsonbot Available commands:
21:36 abort <job> - specify which job to abort
21:36 alias [<alias> [<command>]] - defines a new alias, deletes one or lists all existing aliases
21:36 botsnack [<snack>] - om nom nom
21:36 build <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period
21:36 comment <job> <build-#> <comment> - adds a description to a build
21:36 h [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
21:36 health [<job>|-v <view>] - show the health of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
21:36 jobs [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
21:36 q - show the state of the build queue
21:36 queue - show the state of the build queue
21:36 s [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
21:36 schedule <job> [now|<delay>[s|m|h]] [<parameterkey>=<value>]* - schedule a job build, with standard, custom or no quiet period
21:36 status [<job>|-v <view>] - show the status of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
21:36 testresult [<job>|-v <view>] - show the test results of a specific job, jobs in a view or all jobs
21:36 userstat <username> - prints information about a Hudson user
21:36 hdl chris++ for hudsonbot
21:36 Is it a bot of yours ?
21:36 chris comes with hudson
21:37 hudson comes with a bunch of tools
21:37 hdl good.
21:37 8-)
21:37 chris gmcharlt: you about
21:37 ?
21:37 gmcharlt yep
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21:38 chris ah nevermind figured out what is happening
21:38 just latency to the git server
21:39 gmcharlt long minute :)
21:39 chris :)
21:39 hudsonbot Starting build 1 for job Koha 3.2.x
21:39 Starting build 1 for job Koha 3.0.x
21:41 Project Koha 3.0.x build (1): FAILURE in 8 min 25 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]b/Koha%203.0.x/1/
21:41 chris it only can build 2 at once, and those 2 got in the way :)
21:41 hudsonbot Project Koha 3.2.x build (1): FAILURE in 8 min 43 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]b/Koha%203.2.x/1/
21:41 Starting build 95 for job Koha Master (previous build: FIXED)
21:42 chris now to fix why those 2 builds failed :)
21:42 hudsonbot Project Koha Master build (95): FAILURE in 1 min 42 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]Koha%20Master/95/
21:42 * Brian Engard: Create Unit Test for ImportBatch
21:42 * Daniel Grobani: unit test stub for Z3950.pm
21:46 robin_ hudson should map names to IRC nicks if possible
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21:58 gmcharlt @quote random
21:58 munin gmcharlt: Quote #86: "<jcamins> Oops. Don't click mandatory on subfields for tags you've never heard of." (added by chris_n at 03:44 PM, July 19, 2010)
21:58 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:58 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0�C (12:00 AM CEST on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 7.0�C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004 hPa (Falling).
21:58 cait @wunder wellington nz
21:58 munin cait: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0�C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady).
22:03 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.2.x build (2): UNSTABLE in 9 min 32 sec: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]job/Koha_3.2.x/2/
22:03 Starting build 2 for job Koha_3.0.x (previous build: FAILURE)
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22:06 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build (96): UNSTABLE in 16 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]b/Koha_Master/96/
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22:31 wasabi knock knoc
22:31 can some one get the door downstars...
22:31 plz
22:32 ... a flate tire :/
22:33 cait someone will come to get you :)
22:33 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build (97): STILL UNSTABLE in 15 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]b/Koha_Master/97/
22:34 wasabi thankxxz
22:54 hdl @later tell nengard broken links http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ation/3-2-manual/ ?
22:54 munin hdl: The operation succeeded.
22:54 lizzy hdl: i'm working on the manual right now
22:54 lizzy is now known as wizzyrea
22:54 hdl wizzyrea: ok sorry.
22:54 wizzyrea please direct website manual issues to me :)
22:54 hdl ok noted.
22:55 chris !hudson build Koha_Master now
22:55 hudsonbot chris: job Koha_Master build scheduled now
22:55 Starting build 98 for job Koha_Master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last STILL UNSTABLE #97 36 min ago)
22:56 magnus @wunder bodo, norway
22:56 munin magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0�C (12:50 AM CEST on October 31, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0�C. Windchill: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.21 in 989 hPa (Steady).
22:59 robin_ BobB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCRl5vlMk1I
23:01 wizzyrea hdl: it's back for the moment if you have a pressing need with the manual
23:01 i'm not actively working on it atm
23:10 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build (98): STILL UNSTABLE in 15 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]b/Koha_Master/98/
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23:31 hudsonbot Project Koha_3.0.x build (2): STILL FAILING in 1 hr 27 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]job/Koha_3.0.x/2/
23:36 chris gah will fix that after lunch
23:37 hdl http://descartes.biblibre.com/kohasmith
23:37 here is a french mykoha
23:37 tar.bz2
23:39 hudsonbot Project Koha_Master build (99): STILL UNSTABLE in 15 min: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]b/Koha_Master/99/
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