IRC log for #koha, 2010-09-27

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02:53 Amit heya chris
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06:25 cait good morning #koha
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06:26 cait hi magnus
06:26 * magnus mmm, licorice... ;-)
06:26 magnus hi cait
06:26 cait licorice
06:26 ?
06:28 ah, Lakritze
06:28 magnus kohacon has a new sponsor: http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/
06:28 cait you are eating licorice practically before breakfast?
06:28 uh
06:28 magnus nope, just celebrating the new sponsor ;-)
06:29 cait oh
06:29 good
06:31 magnus oh no, look at the alphabetical list of sponsors! "The Library" is filed under T! oh no! ;-)
06:31 cait lol
06:31 I think that's ok, the conference site should not be better than koha ;)
06:33 ok, time for work
06:33 cya magnus
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07:03 ivanc good morning #koha
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07:23 magnus hiya ivanc, alex_a, francharb, matts, Kivutar, stephane1 & davi!
07:23 francharb hi magnus!
07:23 ivanc hi magnus
07:23 davi hi
07:26 Kivutar hi all :)
07:27 alex_a hi magnus :)
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07:28 kf hi #koha
07:29 chris: around?
07:31 ivanc hi #kf
07:34 kf hi ivanc :)
07:36 magnus hi kf
07:37 kf hi again magnus
07:38 magnus welcome back! short commute?
07:39 chris hi all
07:41 kf hi chris
07:44 magnus hey, kohacon is just 4 weeks off!
07:45 chris yup!
07:45 3 new public libraries (part of 1 system) went live today
07:45 kf magnus: 10 minute walk :)
07:46 grats chris :)
07:46 magnus kf: goody! i have a 0 minute walk... ;-)
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07:46 magnus woohoo, chris! on 3.2?
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07:47 chris yup
07:47 magnus cool
07:47 kf cool :)
07:54 magnus i guess if bug 4310 is the main blocker, it isn't of much concern to libraries new to koha
07:54 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4310 blocker, PATCH-Sent, ---, henridamien, NEW, No Migration for budgets from 3.0 to 3.2
07:55 chris theres a patch for that now
07:55 that works, we are just waiting for it to be all bundled up and released afaik
07:56 magnus ah, way cool!
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09:38 markk good morning all
09:38 is there anyone who can help me with the koha system?
09:43 magnus markk: as our topic says: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" ;-)
09:43 kf markk: look at our topic
09:43 ah, magnus can type faster than me :)
09:46 markk: what is your question?
09:46 markk i set up koha on ubuntu .. set it to use UTF8 and mysql as well
09:46 everything is fine for now
09:47 but when i search in the catalocue
09:47 for a name in arabic .. it returne all the books
09:48 i changed the encoding in mysql of the character_set_client/connection/result from latin1 to utf8 .. but with no lick
09:48 any idea?
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10:12 slef @seen chris
10:12 munin slef: chris was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <chris> that works, we are just waiting for it to be all bundled up and released afaik
10:13 slef chris: still awake?  Or anyone else who can Redirect http://kohacon10.org.nz/ http://www.kohacon10.org.nz/
10:14 magnus hm, it does say it works, though... ;-)
10:25 kf markk: we use Icu indexing because of our hebrew records - it works fine, but you can find all information in magnus link
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10:52 markk kf: i'm working on magnus' link :D .. having some problems on how to manually recompile Yaz but will report back to you when it's working .. thanks :D
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11:44 kf hi jwagner
11:46 jwagner Hi kf
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12:23 * chris_n finally settles back down from a weekend of bouncing around
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12:29 owen Happy Monday to those of you for whom this Monday is new.
12:29 Hello to all others.
12:30 * Braedon says hello from the FUTURE
12:30 owen You get good wifi from the flying car eh?
12:30 Braedon all whitespace here
12:31 * Braedon doesn't know if anyone knows what that is, but o well
12:31 larsw Braedon, are you talking about the US decision to allow frequencies between analog tv channels to be used for Internet purposes?
12:32 Braedon i indeed am
12:32 larsw then I don't know what you're talking about :)
12:33 Braedon apparently the US doesn't need Net Neutrality, cos Whitespace will solve all their problems
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12:33 Braedon being from the future, i can report they were absolutely correct!
12:33 cured cancer and everything
12:34 /end-irrelevant-rant
12:35 owen We don't need net neutrality because we've already got the best broadband service in the entire world? Right?
12:35 <crickets>
12:35 Braedon mmm, delicious crickets
12:38 (as some of you astute Kohanauts may have noticed, the probability of Braedon being both on IRC and slightly insane increases drastically during the small hours of the morning)
12:39 (hopefully he shall break this habit eventually, and perhaps even come back to do something productive)
12:39 larsw IRC = Insanity Rules, Cool
12:39 Braedon (until then, he apologizes - it is nothing personal, #koha is just the first tab in his client)
12:41 (thank you for your patience and understanding)
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13:01 chris_n does anyone else find the inability to absolutely control the print margins in FF very irksome?
13:02 * chris_n did some preliminary work on an html export option for the labels creator this weekend and was stymied by this apparent lack of ability in FF
13:03 owen chris_n: Are FF's page margin settings not working correctly?
13:04 chris_n that is correct from my observations
13:05 even those in about:config have little to no effect
13:05 * owen has never tried to print something from FF which needed precision
13:05 chris_n FF seems to want to impose a 0.5 inch margin regardless of what the user desires
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13:05 owen I have however had FF unceremoniously crash when trying to print some pages, so I often open up *shudder* IE to print
13:06 chris_n and there appear to be many and loud complaints to this effect for many revisions of FF
13:06 at any rate, it is a major hold up to using html output to print labels
13:07 * chris_n figured that such an option would overcome the utf-8 problems inherent to the pdf exporter
13:07 wants a browser that works like he wants it to and wants it at least a year ago if possible :-)
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14:09 wizzyrea mornin.
14:10 kf hi wizzyrea
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14:48 chris_n hi wizzyrea && kf
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15:12 jcamins Good morning, #koha
15:15 kf++ # for working on adding the article icon
15:15 # to the Intranet client
15:18 kf huh?
15:18 jcamins: I have the patch ready, but I have to confess it's on a branch with a lof of other changes
15:18 jcamins: I had some hope you will look at them once I finished everything..
15:19 I talked to chris and he said he will create a branch for 3.4
15:21 jcamins I will be happy to take a look. :)
15:27 Hm.
15:27 How did we duplicate subfields back before owen's nice duplicating icons?
15:28 I know we were able to, but for the life of me I can't figure out how.
15:30 Hm. I'm getting an error.
15:32 kf I think it was + and - back then
15:33 jcamins: is there a reason you don't show 733$h with the information about pages and issue?
15:34 jcamins I think I just copied the code from someone else. ;)
15:35 Maybe 780/785?
15:36 Which should also display $h, of course.
15:36 mib_sq7uz Hello all......any more closer to 3.2 release??
15:39 kf jcamins: ok, I will take a look. perhaps display it separately from the link to the serial
15:39 I did some work on other editions and "sets"
15:40 if you are willing to test, I will give you some example records so you can see how it works :)
15:40 jcamins Sure!
15:42 kf cool :)
15:43 I hope I can show something next week
15:44 jcamins Whenever you're done, I'll be happy to look at it.
15:54 kf :)
15:55 jcamins Ooh!
15:55 Hm. nengard is not here.
15:55 @later tell nengard Congratulations!
15:55 munin jcamins: The operation succeeded.
15:56 kf jcamins: birhtday?
15:56 jcamins New book. :)
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16:01 kf joetho: we use it
16:01 joetho: but my coworker does the server side things
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16:21 kf hi druthb :)
16:21 druthb hi.  :)
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16:23 jcamins druthb: Hello. I finally realized how to pronounce your nick. :)
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16:24 druthb jcamins:  You're not the first to struggle a little with it.  I've had people say "doctor---huh?"
16:24 jcamins I had wondered repeatedly how to pronounce "thb," before I realized that the "d" and "b" were separate.
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16:27 reva Hi all, there was some issue with mibbit. I am reva, but it is not taking my name input. I am not able to find the misc/migration_tools script in my Koha 3.0.6 Live CD VirtualBox ll. I would like to test importing Marc records into the database.
16:27 ok, I guess it did take reva as my name after all:)
16:28 jcamins reva: you appear to be reva.
16:28 reva Yes:) jcamins:
16:28 jcamins reva: check ~/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools
16:29 reva I will check for it. I searched for any folder named misc in my ubuntu, but it is coming up empty.
16:30 joetho hi reva, hi druthb, hi everybody else, and KF: can you ask your serverside sip2 person if your sip2 authentication uses a username:password, or just a password?
16:30 yikes that didn't come out right on MY browser at all!
16:30 kf sorry, he is not here now
16:30 I can ask him tomorrow
16:30 jcamins reva: It is certainly there, because we briefly used the livecd and were able to import records.
16:31 kf but I think he uses cardnumber and password
16:31 joetho I meant "username - password" and my browser emoticonified it into something different.
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16:31 joetho thanks kf
16:31 kf where is your problem with that?
16:31 jcamins Also, just to be clear, the script is called bulkmarcimport.pl, not migration_tools.
16:31 CGI508 does anyone kno the vmware loging
16:31 login*
16:32 joetho kf: my sip2 vendor wants a "terminal password"
16:32 kf hm
16:32 CGI508 ??
16:33 kf hm, perhaps I was wrong then
16:33 CGI508 does anyone kno the efault web login
16:33 jcamins CGI508: nope, sorry.
16:33 kf I think we have login data in this xml configuration fiel of the sip server, but not sure what the vendor does to authenticate
16:33 CGI508 default*?
16:33 joetho kf: I guess I'll find out. thanks
16:33 reva Hi joetho:. jcamins: I have /etc which is where the Koha is in the Ubuntu file system. But there are other folders in /etc (such as Perl, p5) but no misc under /etc or /Koha. Clone search brought up some results (such bomberclone, ntfsclone) but no kohaclone.
16:34 CGI508 can some one tell me the default login plase
16:35 reva jcamins: got it about the script name being called the bulkmarcimport.pl.
16:36 jcamins CGI508: I don't think anyone knows, sorry. The vmware vm is very old, as I recall.
16:36 kf does someone know how the merge records works?
16:36 CGI508 only 3.1
16:36 kf I thought there was something with the cart
16:36 CGI508 does anyone kno the newest stadard login
16:36 jcamins kf: ooh! something I know! What problem are you running into?
16:36 kf how to start it :)
16:36 jcamins Oh.
16:36 kf oh?
16:36 jcamins Let me check.
16:37 No, the "oh" was about the version of the vmware vm.
16:37 CGI508 nd i cant find it nd need it
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16:38 kf jcamins: puh :)
16:38 CGI508 so any sugestions ppl
16:39 jcamins CGI508: http://mizstik.com/projects/koha-livecd/
16:39 reva I have couple of more questions: 1) in the OPAC, is there not a button for going back to the search results ( labels this button title list) when you are looking at bib record?
16:39 jcamins reva: I don't believe there is such a button, no.
16:39 owen The browser has a back button though :P
16:40 reva That was meant to be (LC labels this Title List).
16:40 jcamins kf: I know I used the merge records feature, but I can't remember how.
16:40 kf hah I found it :)
16:40 it's not the cart, it's lists
16:40 owen Bug 3075
16:40 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3075 minor, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, return to search results on detail page
16:40 kf hi owen
16:40 jcamins Ah-ha!
16:41 Yup. That's it.
16:41 reva Thanks for the obviosity pointer owen::)
16:41 jcamins Merge should work with the cart, too.
16:41 * jcamins watches his bug list get longer
16:42 CGI508 thts a diffrent set up
16:42 jcamins CGI508: yes, but it's much newer, and we know the password for it.
16:43 CGI508 oh ok ill try it
16:43 kf jcamins: can you write an enhancement request? *offers cookies*
16:43 jcamins CGI508: by the way, you should know that the Koha website is http://koha-community.org/
16:43 kf: well, if you're offering cookies... ;)
16:43 Sure.
16:43 kf thx
16:44 :)
16:44 I am doing screenshots for a presentation right now
16:44 so much work, not enough time :(
16:45 reva ok, the second question: I would like my see also references show in OPAC from my authority files. I tried following instructions from the manual for 3.0 (from the other site).  CG1508: Mizstic build is easy to install and configure.) jcamins: I still have not found the script.
16:48 kf ok, time to go home - bye all!
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16:48 reva jcamins: should I ask mizst about the /misc folder, etc? He told me that he may not know Koha specific things.
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16:49 jcamins reva: that would be a good idea.
16:49 You could also try running the following command:
16:49 find / -name "bulkmarcimport.pl" -print
16:50 That will tell you if the script is on the CD.
16:50 (and where it is)
16:50 reva ok, I will try that from the command line. What is the function of "-name" in the command there? (Just curious.)
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16:51 jcamins It says "search for a file with the following name."
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16:55 reva jcamins: it listed a lot of things that rushed past. (Even scrolling up I cannot go to where I had entered my command.) But this is a sample: find: `/proc/1348/task/1348/fd': Permission denied.
16:56 another says: find: `/root': Permission denied.
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17:01 Braedon reva: or so i surmise - only have your last three messages
17:01 reva Got it Braedon; I was actually thinking YOU might be able to walk me through this exercise. So if I do not have read permission eve, how could I RUN the script?
17:03 Basically I want to do a bulkimport. Now there are two parts to my question. 1) When I save from an OPAC, it gives me the choice to save in marc. Does it mean it will automatically save it as an .mle? 2) how do I run the bulkmarcimport.pl script?
17:03 that was supposed to be .mrc Braedon::)
17:05 And I cannot find the kohaclone folder where the script is supposed to reside.
17:06 Braedon alas not the person to ask at the moment sorry - can't remember anything useful about 2, never done 1, and it is 6:15am and i really should be heading to bed
17:07 reva sorry Braedon. Good night then:)
17:07 Braedon basically only still up as it takes less energy to sit on my chair and stare a computer screen than to go to bed :P
17:11 brendan morning all
17:15 sekjal morning, brendan!
17:15 Braedon morning brendan from Braedon as he heads to bed in the morning
17:16 brendan night night
17:16 jcamins Morning brendan, night Braedon.
17:16 Braedon the birds are chirping but Braedon is snoring
17:16 sionara #koha
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17:23 chobbs Can someoen point out where to adjust script timeouts? I'm importing ~14,000 patrons and hitting a Gateway Timeout in 2.2 beta that I didn't get in 3.00
17:23 s/2.2/3.2/
17:29 * druthb waves to brendan
17:30 * brendan waves back
17:32 reva so anyone for my question on showing  "see also" names in search results in OPAC?
17:46 the silence is deafening. in the LC catalog they give me the option to save it in non-Unicode/MARC-8 and MARC Unicode/UTF-8); when saved the files have .cgi extensions. So how would I import them into Koha?
17:46 jcamins reva: Tools->Stage MARC Records for Import.
17:47 Choose the file (it doesn't matter what the extension is).
17:47 reva and what editor would let me read a .cgi file? (i.e., if it is human readable).
17:47 jcamins Follow the instructions. :)
17:47 reva ok jcamins:
17:47 jcamins It's just a binary MARC file.
17:47 MarcEdit.
17:48 You should download the records as MARC Unicode/UTF-8.
17:48 But I think you'd be better off using Z39.50.
17:49 Downloading it onto your desktop adds a bunch of extra steps.
17:49 chobbs Am I right that there is no place in the staff client to set the number of renewals when creating circ and fine rules? I've been setting renewalsallowed in the issuingrules table by hand...
17:50 reva Ok, I did download Unicode/Utf-8. Isn't MARC edit a software I have to install though? I have used z39.50, but this is for practicing staging and importing.
17:50 jcamins chobbs: we don't use the circulation module at all, but that doesn't seem right. I'm checking the bug database now.
17:50 reva: Yes, if you want software that will read MARC files, you'll need to download it.
17:51 owen reva: Why not import the record into Koha and edit it there?
17:51 chobbs jcamins:  nothing poped out of bugzilla for me.
17:51 jcamins chobbs: there is no bug reported about not being edit renewalsallowed.
17:51 Which makes me think that maybe it's just counter-intuitive. ;)
17:51 reva jcamins: lots of university online catalog servers are not z39.50 compliant. But they do let you save their marc files for copy cataloging (via saving and importing into your library system.)
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17:52 chobbs jcamins: Well, everything else in issuingrules is set from the Circulation and Fines page, so I'm pretty sure it ought to be there :-)
17:53 cait hi #koha
17:53 jcamins chobbs: I see the option to set "Renewals Allowed (count)" on that page.
17:53 Hi cait
17:53 cait hi again jcamins :)
17:53 what are you searching for?
17:53 reva owen: I am not sure what you are saying. From inside Koha I know to use the z39.50; but many online catalogs do not share their bib records that way.
17:53 jcamins I don't know what it does, or how to test it, but I do see that option.
17:54 reva hi cait::)
17:54 chobbs jcamins:  Weird, I don't. Wasn't there under 3.00.05 and I just upgraded to 3.2 beta and it still isn't there.
17:54 cait hi reva
17:54 jcamins cait: chobbs is trying to set renewalsallowed, but there's no option for that in the issuing rules screen on his install.
17:55 cait ah
17:55 it's new in 3.2
17:55 before it was in the item type
17:55 jcamins Unfortunately I have more than exhausted my knowledge of the subject.
17:55 cait it's new in the issuing rules matrix in 3.2 in 3.0.x it was configured in the item type
17:55 does this help?
17:55 * cait wants to earn some cookies
17:56 chobbs cait: just upgraded to 3.2Beta, and don't see it in that screen
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17:56 cait you work with en templates?
17:56 chobbs cait: yes
17:56 cait hm
17:57 strange
17:57 chobbs cait: You're referrign to smart-rules.pl, right?
17:57 cait Im quite sure about this
17:57 yep
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18:00 cait if you never changed your language that's perhaps not the problem
18:01 do you have a language chooser at the bottom of your page?
18:01 chobbs language in preference claims en
18:01 cait ok, so that seems not to be your problem
18:01 weird
18:02 reva jcamins:I got an answer for my question from Mizst:) : This question is in fact Live CD specific. :-)  The file is at this location:  /usr/share/koha/bin/migrati​on_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl  By the way, you need to use sudo when performing the search, otherwise it can’t access certain subdirectories, hence the error messages.
18:03 so how does the sudo command go? (I kind of get it gives me root privileges)
18:04 jcamins Put sudo at the beginning of whatever command you want to run.
18:04 But I don't think there is anything you will need to do as root.
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18:06 reva well, I guess running a script needs extra privileges then:).
18:06 jcamins: I will try your command now with sudo in front now.
18:06 jcamins reva: what command?
18:07 Mizst answered your question.
18:07 You do not need to search for the script, you know where it is.
18:08 reva ok, I got it; but would I be able to run the script without elevated permissions?
18:09 jcamins In fact, you *must* run the script as your koha user.
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18:09 jcamins If you run it as root, it might mess things up.
18:12 reva ok, I see. I am a little puzzled about what bulkmarcimport does. I mean what are the situations I would use the script?
18:13 jcamins reva: it is for importing MARC records.
18:13 chobbs cait:  Does koha cache "compiled" pages somewhere on the server? that is, does it build pages with tempaltes and then keep static versions in a cache that might be messing me up?
18:14 owen No
18:14 chobbs owen:  thx
18:14 owen chobbs: Every time I've wondered the same it's been because I was working with the wrong language template
18:15 chobbs owen:  Is there a way for me to prove that I'm using the right template? language pref is set to 'en', but cait suggests I'm using en_NZ because of "Issue" and "Return"
18:15 owen View source
18:15 chobbs owen:  well, duh :-)
18:16 owen:  href="/intranet-tmpl/prog/en-N​Z/lib/jquery/plugins/ui.tabs.css
18:16 reva jcamins: I found the script. So I have a staged record. Do I invoke the bulkmarcimport.pl to import it into the database? (I realize bulk means a lot). I was just going to use one to test.
18:16 owen :)
18:16 chobbs owen:  So now how do I fix it? Since my pref is set correctly, why isn't it using en?
18:16 reva jcamins: or am I confounding a lot of things. owen: you are saying a lot of obvious things today:).
18:18 owen chobbs: You're looking at the "language" system preference?
18:18 chobbs owen:  correct
18:19 owen ...And only "English(en)" is checked?
18:19 chobbs owen:  correct (and shouldn't that be a radio button?)
18:19 owen chobbs: Which version are you on?
18:19 chobbs 3.01.00.140
18:20 jcamins reva: you need the Stage MARC Records for Import utility.
18:20 Tools->Stage MARC Records for Import.
18:20 bulkmarcimport.pl is the script you asked about way back at the beginning of our conversation.
18:20 But it's not what you actually want. ;)
18:20 owen chobbs: There are a couple of different things here: 1) What languages are available for use in the OPAC or staff client
18:20 2) What language has been *chosen* for the OPAC or staff client
18:21 Number 1 is what the preferences set up
18:21 Number 2 is done via the language links at the bottom of the page
18:21 chobbs: Do you have more than one language enabled?
18:21 chobbs owen:  Got it. I don't see the language sleector at the bottom of the page, presumably because only 'en' is selected.
18:22 reva ok, I thought as much. Oh I see. I import the staged records using Manage.. in the Tools section. But then when do I actually use the script I asked at the beginning. (I told you I was confounded.):)
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18:22 owen chobbs: "English(en-NZ)" shows up in your preferences but it's unchecked?
18:22 chobbs owen:  Interesting, if I add en_NZ, I get the selector, but if I choose en, it reverts back to en_NZ
18:22 jcamins reva: you don't need to use the script at all.
18:22 chobbs owen:  that was correct
18:23 jcamins You then go to Tools->Manage Staged Records, and click the "Import" link.
18:23 owen chobbs: Possibly related, Bug 5052
18:23 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5052 normal, P5, ---, chris, NEW, Can't choose languages if all choices are sublanguages
18:24 reva ok, now why was I told to use it by some people? (I mean I would have naturally looked for GUI like the Manage ... and not looked for a command line thing like bulkmarcimport, if you get what I mean.)
18:25 chobbs owen:  Interesting - If I add es-ES, I can now choose en
18:25 owen:  so it does sound like that bug indeed
18:26 jcamins reva: because we probably thought you were trying to import a lot of data.
18:27 owen chobbs: I'm glad we can at least identify the problem as a known issue
18:27 chobbs owen:  :-)
18:27 reva jcamins: oh, we will one day. But I am doing one record for practice. So using the GUI can I take the default and hit the button saying "Apply different matching rule"?
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18:28 chobbs owen, cait: That does allow me to address my original issue, which was how to modify the Renewals allowed in circ and fine rules. Apparently that's not manageable in en_NZ?
18:28 jcamins reva: yes.
18:28 chobbs That column is appearing now.
18:29 cait chobbs: when you update you need to redo the templates
18:29 chobbs oh?
18:29 cait depending on how you update and such things... with git you always have to
18:29 so if something is working in en and not in another language - recreate your templates
18:29 chobbs cait: don't think that was covered in INSTALL.ubuntu...
18:29 reva jcamins: say I have a dozen records, I have saved from different sources in MARC Unicode/UTF-8 (all having .cgi extension). How actually would I use theulkmarcimport.pl?
18:29 chobbs cait:  is there a script for rebuildingthose?
18:29 owen chobbs: Did you install using git?
18:30 chobbs owen:  no, downloaded latest beta tgz
18:30 jcamins reva: I don't think you can import from multiple files at once.
18:30 * owen doesn't know what languages are included in the beta tarball
18:31 chobbs owen:  I actually thought it was just 'en', which would certainly explain why the en_NZ template doesn't have the updated circ and fine template
18:32 cait chobbs: which type of installation do you have?
18:32 chobbs tempted to just cp en to en_NZ and leave things the way they were :-)
18:32 reva No, I mean appending all the marc records with the appropriate seperations in a single file; is that possible then?
18:32 cait dev or standard?
18:33 reva: one single file is correct, bulkmarcimport is for a lot of records, like 20000
18:33 chobbs cait: assume I got the standard (was a relatively modest sized tgz)
18:33 cait you can use translate in /misc/translator
18:34 but it will not translate your sys pref file
18:34 s
18:34 translate install nz-NZ
18:34 en-NZ
18:34 reva jcamins: I just imported the stage record into the database, but when I search it is saying no results found.?
18:34 jcamins reva: did you wait 10 minutes?
18:35 The index is only updated every 10 minutes.
18:35 cait reva: you staged and managed the records?
18:36 reva yes, jcamins:
18:36 jcamins No idea, then. It works for me.
18:37 reva ok, I will try it again in a bit; the index may be working slowly.
18:37 Thanks, jcamins:
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18:56 chobbs cait: that seemed to work wonders!
18:56 cait cool :)
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19:33 wajasu I'm running 3.2beta. if I just run misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl every 8 minutes, should that prevent the index from being available during a search? It seems to cause 'No Result found!' at some point in the rebuild process (i.e. when zebraidx starts running).
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19:34 cait wajasu: are u using the -z option?
19:34 wajasu no -z
19:35 cait oh
19:36 without -z you are rebuilding the whole index every time
19:36 -z will only reindex new and changed records from zebra_queue table
19:37 I think we use -a -b -z
19:40 wajasu i will go back to that way.
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20:02 reva jcamins: I am back; the Manage import works fine.:) But I notice that there is no save as MARC Unicode/UTF-8 choice in the bib records in the online catalogs of libraries that participate in OCLC. So I am forced to cutting and pasting, I think, when I am in the non z39.50 environment.
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20:04 reva jcamins: So essentially I will use bulkmarcimport.pl when I am migrating to a version of Koha from some other ILS system? or even to a higher version of Koha from a lower one?
20:06 jcamins reva: if you can save as MARC-8, that will work fine, too.
20:06 And, yes, that is essentially when you will need bulkmarcimport. When you have a huge number of records to import. You might use it if you want to take all the records off your server and load them into a different server.
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20:13 reva Ok, got it. But can I stage import a record into authorities, say from LC? Or does the stage and import do it only for bib records?
20:13 jcamins Only bib records.
20:13 My experience is that it's must faster to just rekey authority records.
20:13 *much
20:14 reva jcamins: the libraries (the non z39.50 ones) that I looked at  lets you save them only as brief or full record; no marc encoding at all in the save options:(
20:14 jcamins Yes, that's common.
20:15 reva what do you mean rekey? I am not understnading the new term.
20:15 jcamins I was just clarifying that while UTF-8 is preferred, MARC-8 works fine too.
20:15 Type it in from scratch.
20:16 Copy-and-paste can mangle letters with accents.
20:16 reva ok, so no staging and importing into authorities, hah?
20:16 jcamins Right.
20:17 reva but LC lets you save authority files, so I thought that would be cool to stage and import them if there was a possibility of that. Oh well. Well time to go to Spanish class. Hasta manana:)
20:19 Thansk jcamins: for all the help today. Bye.
20:19 jcamins Bye.
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20:36 cait jcamins: I am a bit confused - I am looking at traced series
20:37 jcamins No wonder you're confused!
20:37 cait I thought the indicator problem was fixed
20:37 but I can't see the traced series because of the indicator
20:37 jcamins I don't think so. I had fixed the indicator with the 780/785.
20:38 We had discussed the indicator problems, but I thought our ultimate conclusion was that no one knew what to do.
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20:39 cait hm
20:40 ok, it's just strange
20:42 I thought this problem was fixed
20:42 hmpf :)
20:42 jcamins: thx
20:42 jcamins cait: bug 5256
20:42 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5256 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Merge bibs should work from cart
20:43 cait jcamins++ :)
20:43 * jcamins blushes
20:44 jcamins Whoops, it's 4:53!
20:44 Good night, #koha
20:45 cait wow
20:45 good night jcamins
20:45 10:50 pm here
20:45 jcamins (that's 16:53, for those of you who use a 24-hour clock)
20:45 Time to go print wedding announcements. :D
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20:53 joetho Wedding announcements?
20:53 congratulations?
20:54 Congratulations!
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21:06 cait jcamins: there is a patch from owen - not pushed to head yet. but I tested it - explains my confusion :)
21:07 bug 2704
21:07 munin 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2704 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, 440 Display Issues
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23:01 brendan I'm guessing 23C at the most
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23:15 * chris_n figures out his problem
23:15 chris_n at least the margin problem I was having with FF
23:16 @later tell owen disabling YUI fixed my FF print margin problems
23:16 munin chris_n: The operation succeeded.
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