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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | chris | whoa |
| 00:00 | heres the storm | |
| 00:00 | robin | lightening and thunder and bears, oh my! |
| 00:05 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 00:07 | druthb | hi. |
| 00:08 | chris | heya druthb ;) |
| 00:09 | wellington is busy being thundered on | |
| 00:10 | hopefully the weather is better hwere you are | |
| 00:10 | druthb | it rained a little bit here earlier, too...might storm some tonight, but nothing bad. |
| 00:17 | jo | warm, blue skys and light breeze in Horowhenua |
| 00:17 | get that in paradise I spose ... | |
| 00:18 | chris | heh |
| 00:20 | jo | anyone know how to download and save a you tube video to show offline? |
| 00:21 | druthb | RealPlayer SP can do that; there are other alternatives, but I have RealPlayer on my PC anyway, so I use that. |
| 00:25 | jo | oh cool - i'll go look thanks. |
| 00:25 | chris | yeah there are a few linux ones that will do it |
| 00:25 | jo | I get tears in my eyes whenever i view this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v[…]e=player_embedded |
| 00:25 | chris | if you get stuck |
| 00:26 | i can grab it for you | |
| 00:26 | jo | i just know the tech will fail if i rely on a live link |
| 00:26 | ye splease | |
| 00:26 | chris: yes please | |
| 00:26 | that link above | |
| 00:26 | chris | k, will check the license and do that if it allows |
| 00:27 | jo | thanks |
| 00:27 | chris | (gotta walk the walk if you are gonna talk the talk :)) |
| 00:27 | jo | yep |
| 00:27 | that link ok? | |
| 00:27 | chris | yup |
| 00:29 | druthb | awesome video! |
| 00:29 | chris | gah i hate it when places dont put licensing information in an easy to find place |
| 00:29 | * chris | will email them |
| 00:29 | jo | thanks Chris |
| 00:30 | druthb: i know ... and while its aimed at USA so relevant for western world in general | |
| 00:30 | and that generation is one to be reckoned with - and one that librarians have to be relevant to | |
| 00:31 | chris | emailed them to ask |
| 00:32 | jo | thanks ... i need it for tomorrow though .. |
| 00:32 | chris | ahh, i may not have an answer by then |
| 00:33 | jo | probably not. I may have to run with a live link |
| 00:36 | chris | http://vimeo.com/2032854 |
| 00:37 | you can download from here if you login | |
| 00:37 | * chris | signs up |
| 00:38 | chris | yup its downloading now |
| 00:38 | so you could sign up too | |
| 00:38 | im going for lunch now | |
| 00:38 | but its downloading | |
| 00:39 | jo | oh cool :) |
| 00:39 | i'll leave it to you if you don't mind | |
| 00:39 | i'll keep frantically writing | |
| 00:39 | and making stuff up | |
| 00:39 | chris | k, ill email it |
| 00:47 | brendan_l | heh there is a UCSB shirt in that youtube video |
| 00:47 | I live at UCSB family housing | |
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| 01:21 | chris_n | time to hit the hay |
| 01:21 | g'night #koha | |
| 01:21 | jo | goodnight |
| 01:21 | oh and here comes Wellington's storm | |
| 01:22 | robin | jo: it already appears to have passed by here. A bit anticlimatic really :) |
| 01:55 | jo | yeah - well it got awfullt black and cabbage trees in carpark on a hellaver lean but yeah - it didn't come to much |
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| 02:03 | chris | working late wizzyrea_ ? |
| 02:03 | wizzyrea_ | no sir this is purely recreation :) |
| 02:03 | chris | :) |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea_ | NEKLS has a retreat every year called NEST, and it's basically a bunch of librarians taking over a bed and breakfast |
| 02:04 | chris | oh yeah? |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea_ | that's where I am |
| 02:04 | yea | |
| 02:04 | chris | oh cool |
| 02:05 | wizzyrea_ | half the time I was on my new phone today. :D |
| 02:05 | chris | i noticed! |
| 02:05 | :) | |
| 02:05 | larsw bought a nexus one | |
| 02:06 | wizzyrea_ | ooooh |
| 02:06 | chris | robin has one, i have a milestone, read has some android one, alan has a nexus one |
| 02:06 | its all android all the time in #koha | |
| 02:06 | wizzyrea_ | I have a galaxy :) |
| 02:07 | robin | I think someone here has one of them too |
| 02:07 | wizzyrea_ | well, an att captivate, if you want to get technical |
| 02:07 | robin | I should have a look at it |
| 02:07 | chris | whats darling's one? |
| 02:07 | robin | an LG something-or-other |
| 02:07 | wizzyrea_ | http://www.wireless.att.com/ce[…]&q_sku=sku4760319 |
| 02:07 | is what I have | |
| 02:07 | chris | and what the hell is tim building???!?? |
| 02:08 | robin | I don't know. I really don't. |
| 02:08 | * chris | gets distracted by rl |
| 02:08 | wizzyrea_ | 11 |
| 02:08 | !! | |
| 02:09 | chris | oh yeah, ive heard good things about the galaxy |
| 02:09 | wizzyrea_ | I lurve mine |
| 02:09 | I've had it... a week and the only thing I'm really missing is netflix | |
| 02:09 | robin | wizzyrea_: what Android version? |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea_ | 2.1 I think |
| 02:10 | I think it *can* do 2.2 | |
| 02:10 | but att are silly heads | |
| 02:10 | robin | ah, if you like it now, you'll really like 2.2 |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea_ | I'm hyped for the galaxy ta |
| 02:11 | tab | |
| 02:11 | if it's half as good as the phone version it'll be a great competitor for the ipad | |
| 02:12 | overall I think it's better than my iphone. and i loved my iphone. | |
| 02:13 | though I got really confused the first time it rang... I coulnd't figure out how to answer it | |
| 02:13 | hehe | |
| 02:13 | chris | i still dont know |
| 02:13 | if they really want to talk, they'll email | |
| 02:14 | :) | |
| 02:14 | wizzyrea_ | hahahaha |
| 02:14 | you use yours like I use mine, it's your mobile pocket communicator thingie | |
| 02:14 | not so much a phone | |
| 02:14 | chris | yeah, i very rarely make or get calls on it |
| 02:18 | wizzyrea_ | ooh |
| 02:18 | http://mashable.com/2010/09/16[…]shable+(Mashable) | |
| 02:18 | chris | cool |
| 02:25 | darling | robin, lg gt540 |
| 02:25 | chris | oh crap |
| 02:25 | darling | ? |
| 02:25 | chris | i still havent tested your app darling |
| 02:25 | darling | heh |
| 02:25 | it works | |
| 02:25 | chris | lemme do my timesheet and ill have a look |
| 02:26 | darling | i still need to embed the markup for koha pages |
| 02:26 | chris | i have a bunch of library cards here |
| 02:36 | jo | ooohhh |
| 02:36 | huge thunder | |
| 02:36 | and lightening and torrential rain | |
| 02:37 | and hail! | |
| 02:38 | chris | oh we never got the hail |
| 02:38 | oh i have a plan | |
| 02:38 | jo | by crikey - its all on |
| 02:38 | robin | <jo> warm, blue skys and light breeze in Horowhenua |
| 02:38 | <jo> get that in paradise I spose ... | |
| 02:38 | ;) | |
| 02:38 | chris | to fulfil it will need an HLT library card |
| 02:38 | jo | lol |
| 02:38 | robin | It looks nice outside here now |
| 02:38 | jo | I'll amend that to "tropical paradise" |
| 02:38 | robin | haha |
| 02:43 | chris | darling: it does work :) |
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| 03:15 | Amit | heya chris |
| 03:18 | chris | heya Amit |
| 03:42 | robin | chris: a flagpole with a pirate flag to attach to it is your answer. |
| 03:43 | chris | ? |
| 03:43 | robin | to what Tim is building |
| 03:48 | chris | ahhh |
| 03:48 | for sunday | |
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| 06:49 | ivanc | hi #koha |
| 06:50 | hdl | hi ivanc |
| 06:50 | ivanc | hi hdl |
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| 06:58 | kf | morning #koha .) |
| 07:00 | ivanc | guten morger kf |
| 07:00 | kf | h ivanc |
| 07:00 | how did your presentation go? | |
| 07:02 | ivanc | kf good |
| 07:02 | the first step is done | |
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| 07:13 | kf | ok, working on my next presentation now |
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| 07:46 | Ata | hi all |
| 07:46 | is there some meeting in progress? | |
| 07:48 | Amit | hi ATA |
| 07:49 | Ata | hit Amit |
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| 10:30 | mib_vr22g | Can anyone direct me at a how-to for git with Koha? I am unsure how it works exactly and have a few questiosn, e.g. Can you use git to just update individual files or must you update the whole system etc.. |
| 10:39 | Braedon | basic info http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ol_for_the_public |
| 10:39 | other sections of that page have more detailed info | |
| 10:41 | mib_vr22g | Thanks.....I will have a gander |
| 10:41 | Braedon | generally a bad idea to merge in single files |
| 10:41 | what specifically are you wanting to do that for? | |
| 10:43 | mib_vr22g | There is some added features, specifically the SQL reports that I would like to add without upgrading......bad idea? |
| 10:43 | Braedon | yeah, can easily cause problems |
| 10:44 | if you can isolate the commits that put in the features, you could potentially cherry pick them | |
| 10:44 | better than trying to do files individually, but still very risky | |
| 10:45 | http://www.kernel.org/pub/soft[…]-cherry-pick.html | |
| 10:48 | mib_vr22g | ummm, OK.....I'll give it a good read before I go ahead with it...... |
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| 10:49 | Braedon | using git, you can of course always revert any changes you make, but you will definitely need careful testing before putting it into production |
| 10:50 | some else here or on the mailing list more knowledgeable about the specifics of the report system than I may be able to help you with what commits you will need, and what issues you could get | |
| 10:56 | mib_vr22g | Thanks....I'll ask again later and maybe post to the mailing list |
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| 12:55 | owen | The evening excitement around here: http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/m[…]1&ArticleID=32272 |
| 12:55 | druthb | mornin'. |
| 12:56 | looks like an exciting night, owen | |
| 12:59 | owen | No power at my house 'til Sunday, they're saying. Power out at three libraries. |
| 13:00 | druthb | Good to see there weren't more injuries. |
| 13:04 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 13:04 | jcamins | Good morning. |
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| 13:06 | jcamins | owen: scary! |
| 13:06 | owen | Very unusual for this area |
| 13:11 | * owen | reads the backlog for PTFS gossip |
| 13:21 | jcamins | Does anyone else ever feel staggered and overwhelmed when they try and document what they do? |
| 13:21 | owen | jcamins: You mean like your job description? |
| 13:22 | jcamins | Or documentation for in case you are hit by a bus. |
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| 13:23 | jcamins | I find myself more and more feeling like I _have_ been hit by a bus. ;) |
| 13:23 | Good morning, sekjal. | |
| 13:24 | sekjal | morning, jcamins. sorry to hear about the bus |
| 13:24 | jcamins | Heh. I'm documenting my job. |
| 13:25 | It turns out I do a whole lot more than I had ever taken the time to think about. | |
| 13:25 | kf | jcamisn: yep |
| 13:25 | jcamins: I try to write down all the things I kow about koha for my coworkers. | |
| 13:26 | owen | jcamins: What I worry about is the crappy spaghetti code I'll leave behind if I get hit by a bus (or a tornado, as seems more likely now) |
| 13:26 | kf | things like how to configure fines and notices, what to do when... what if... |
| 13:28 | jcamins | On the one hand, it's gratifying that I know so much. On the other hand, aaaaaahhhh!!!! ;) |
| 13:29 | owen | Job security! |
| 13:29 | jcamins | owen: perhaps we should update the traditional advice from "always wear a clean pair of underwear" to "always wear a clean pair of underwear and provide a test case"? |
| 13:29 | owen | And an index card with all the passwords. |
| 13:30 | jcamins | I think I used the same password for everything work-related. |
| 13:30 | sekjal | found a similar bug to 5222: apparently, the 630$p isn't displaying in with XSLT on |
| 13:31 | jcamins | We also don't display field 351. |
| 13:32 | And our display of the notes used by MARC-AMC leaves something to be desired. | |
| 13:32 | sekjal | we should really make the XSLT's user-editable through the GUI, so every library can adjust to their hearts desire |
| 13:32 | * owen | imagines a system which would let admins check off which fields they want and have Koha write a custom XSL file |
| 13:32 | jcamins | Yes! |
| 13:32 | sekjal++ | |
| 13:32 | sekjal | what about using the MARC frameworks? |
| 13:32 | jcamins | owen++ ++ |
| 13:32 | I think they'd need an overhaul, first. | |
| 13:33 | sekjal | a nicer editor, surely |
| 13:33 | owen | Even better, have Koha use a different XSL file based on itemtype/ccode |
| 13:33 | jcamins | Indicators can significantly change the meaning of a field. |
| 13:33 | (and there's no way to specify them in a framework) | |
| 13:33 | sekjal | right |
| 13:34 | I remember bumping up against them when doing MeSH at my previous institution | |
| 13:34 | we wanted to treat MeSH and LCSH differently, but the only difference was the second indicator | |
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| 13:57 | * druthb | waves to wizzyrea_ |
| 13:57 | wizzyrea_ | heya ppls |
| 13:57 | jcamins | Hello! |
| 13:57 | * wizzyrea_ | waves at druthb |
| 14:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea_: still on your mobile communications device? |
| 14:01 | wizzyrea_ | not at the moment |
| 14:01 | (hehe that you called it that, you must have read the backlog) | |
| 14:01 | jcamins | Every morning. :) |
| 14:08 | owen | wizzyrea_: We got some down-home Kansas weather last night: http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/m[…]1&ArticleID=32272 |
| 14:08 | wizzyrea_ | whoa! |
| 14:09 | oh that's familiar, trailers all on their tops | |
| 14:09 | owen | They're tornado magnets |
| 14:10 | jcamins | Familiar? Yikes! Maybe Huffnpuff isn't enough to convince me to move to Kansas after all. ;) |
| 14:10 | wizzyrea_ | wow, is your family/house/property ok? |
| 14:10 | in that order? | |
| 14:10 | you know what | |
| 14:10 | hurricanes are huge | |
| 14:10 | owen | All we had was heavy rain and no power (til Sunday they say). |
| 14:10 | wizzyrea_ | tornadoes are small |
| 14:10 | :P | |
| 14:11 | my point being, it's pretty unlikely, even in kansas, that you'll actually get hit by a tornado | |
| 14:11 | scares, sure. | |
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| 14:19 | owen | Hi mparker |
| 14:23 | jwagner: I see you posted some comments on Bug 2560. Do you know if anything more happened with it? | |
| 14:23 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2560 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Advanced search on Language (from pulldown) does not work |
| 14:23 | mparker | Good Morning (still collection information before i ask my question) |
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| 14:24 | kf | owen++ for looking at old bugs |
| 14:26 | * chris_n | doesn't like the mile-wide tornadoes of the mid-western sort |
| 14:28 | owen | I wish Bugzilla offered search term highlighting on its bug search results. |
| 14:28 | jwagner | owen, sorry, was working on something. No, I don't know if anyone else has looked at 2560. |
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| 14:30 | * owen | bumps the bug up to 3_4 |
| 14:32 | jcamins | What does KSF mean? |
| 14:32 | sekjal | Koha Software Foundation, I assume |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 14:33 | Right. | |
| 14:33 | Silly question, sorry. | |
| 14:33 | owen | A hypothetical entity |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Right. |
| 14:36 | CGI086 | please, I need help. I'm cataloging in Koha 3.06, How I validate a field? , for example when I complete the Marc tag 082, how to see the index of call numbers for not to wright te same? |
| 14:38 | jcamins | CGI086: so far as I know, you cannot. |
| 14:40 | owen | Sounds like a good use of a "plugin," as they're called in the case of the MARC editor. But I don't think one exists yet |
| 14:40 | jcamins | You can search in your catalog for the call number you want to assign. |
| 14:46 | CGI086 | Ok, thanks. Another question, if I delete a bibliographic record, after, it is posible to re-use that system number? |
| 14:47 | sekjal | CGI086: if you delete it from the staff client, no, that system number is preserved in the deletedbiblios table |
| 14:49 | kf | has someone experience with the marc export tool? |
| 14:49 | I got an empty file when I tried to export some records by accession date | |
| 14:50 | owen | kf: I've used that option with success recently in our production system, but it's a little behind HEAD |
| 14:50 | * owen | will test |
| 14:51 | jcamins | kf: we had a lot of trouble with exporting. Probably operator error, but I don't think we ever managed to actually persuade any subset of our records to export. |
| 14:51 | kf | thx owen, I tried start and date tody, and from yesterday to tomorrow |
| 14:52 | owen | Yeah kf, it's working for me in my up-to-date test install |
| 14:52 | kf | owen: my records are freshly cataloged, but I can search for them. I added a footnote too and searched for that now, added to card, send card - marc files. but still wondering about the export |
| 14:52 | thx, will test at home again, this installation is not up to date, a little bit behind | |
| 14:53 | card = cart... time to leave fort eh weekend | |
| 14:55 | but wanted to take my test records with me - now I can :) | |
| 14:55 | bye all! | |
| 14:55 | chris_n | bye kf |
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| 14:56 | CGI086 | I'm again, thanks all. Another question. Wuen |
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| 15:00 | owen | Language search limiting is working fine for me. Looks to me like Bug 2560 can be marked fixed. |
| 15:01 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2560 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Advanced search on Language (from pulldown) does not work |
| 15:01 | * owen | wonders why there is no language limit option in the staff client advanced search |
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| 15:03 | jwagner | owen, I see a language entry in the staff adv search pulldown |
| 15:03 | owen | jwagner: But not a dedicated language menu like the other subtype limits |
| 15:03 | jwagner: Were you testing Bug 2560 with the pulldown Language option that is there? | |
| 15:04 | jwagner | Yes |
| 15:04 | owen | Ah, so that's why I'm not seeing the problem. |
| 15:04 | jwagner | The pulldown sends ln,wrdl: as the index which wasn't working. |
| 15:05 | owen | Is there a reason to use that method rather than the dedicated language chooser (in the opac at least) ? |
| 15:06 | jwagner | Not sure -- can't remember which site reported this & if that option was available then. |
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| 15:06 | jwagner | Rereading my entry in the bug report, it looks like the separate language search was working fine -- it was the pulldown that wasn't. |
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| 15:07 | owen | Oh right, sorry I didn't see that |
| 15:07 | jwagner | And if you turned off QueryWeightFields, then the pulldown worked. |
| 15:10 | owen | Okay, still broken then. Thanks for the clarification. |
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| 15:12 | owen | Oh, and the language limiter only shows up in the staff client with "extended options" |
| 15:12 | * owen | is chasing red herrings all over the place |
| 15:13 | * jwagner | sends owen a herring net |
| 15:13 | owen | They say we should eat more herring. |
| 15:13 | jwagner | lutefisk? |
| 15:15 | owen | Okay, I just can't seem to let this go |
| 15:16 | I tried it doing a search using the "Language:" option at the top, searched for "spa", and got the exact same results as when using the dedicated language chooser | |
| 15:17 | And in the OPAC I don't even see the option of choosing "language" from the dropdown at the top | |
| 15:20 | jwagner | Yes, one of our sites has recently asked us about adding Language to the OPAC pulldowns |
| 15:20 | owen | jwagner: I'd be curious why they don't use the dedicated language chooser. Are the languages they want to search not there? Do they not know it exists? |
| 15:21 | jwagner | It seems to be working now in current head -- something must have gotten fixed along the way |
| 15:22 | owen, it's one of several changes they're asking about. Need to clarify what they actually want.... | |
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| 15:26 | * owen | discovers that the language search option we're talking about was removed from the OPAC in 2009 in favor of the dedicated language-picker |
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| 15:28 | jcamins | Um, why would a different set of options show up on the advanced search screen on one computer than on another? |
| 15:30 | owen | Ghosts. |
| 15:31 | druthb | Pixies. |
| 15:31 | jcamins | Wait, maybe I was looking at the staff interface on the other computer. |
| 15:34 | sekjal | fun new bug: if you have more than 20 public lists, the ones in excess of that won't display the List's name properly |
| 15:34 | or, rather, at all | |
| 15:35 | nengard | sekjal - don't think it's new :) that sounds familiar |
| 15:35 | off to find the bug report | |
| 15:35 | sekjal | thanks, nengard; I was just about to start a search, myself |
| 15:35 | nengard | well i'm sure you're fresher than me - what a travel nightmare :( but I am finally home |
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| 15:36 | sekjal | yay for being home! |
| 15:37 | owen | sekjal: The limit is hard-coded. There is a bug report somewhere. |
| 15:37 | sekjal | I'll find it at patch it. looks like a straightforward enough fix |
| 15:37 | owen | In fact there was some discussion fairly recently, but I can't remember if it was on IRC or in the bug or what |
| 15:37 | nengard | bug 3523 sounds related |
| 15:37 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Menu of existing lists limited to 10 |
| 15:38 | owen | Yeah, is that what you're seeing sekjal, or something different? |
| 15:40 | sekjal | something different |
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| 15:40 | sekjal | when viewing a List, in either the OPAC or the staff client, for some Lists, the title is absent |
| 15:40 | title of the list, that is | |
| 15:40 | cait | hi #koha |
| 15:41 | sekjal | In the OPAC, you see Lists ---> <em>List Name</em> normally |
| 15:42 | but if this is the 21st or greater Public List, the List Name is missing | |
| 15:42 | (21st or greater when sorted by shelfnumber ascending) | |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Yay! I successfully added "Auction date" to the staff search. |
| 15:58 | sekjal | wehoo! |
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| 16:02 | owen | What a strange bug sekjal |
| 16:02 | * owen | had only added sixteen lists to test bug 3523 :P |
| 16:02 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3523 normal, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW, Menu of existing lists limited to 10 |
| 16:02 | sekjal | filed bug 5232 for it |
| 16:02 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5232 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Shelfname does not display on high numbered lists |
| 16:04 | * jcamins | feels suddenly dyslexic, looking at 5232 and 3523 |
| 16:06 | sekjal | okay, got a preliminary patch, now testing |
| 16:10 | looks good | |
| 16:30 | jcamins | Okay, this is really weird. |
| 16:30 | Our logs are wrong. | |
| 16:31 | sekjal | jcamins: how so? |
| 16:31 | jcamins | The biblios that they report were modified weren't, and the ones that were modified aren't reported. |
| 16:33 | sekjal | very odd |
| 16:33 | jcamins | The Info column shows the correct modifications, though. |
| 16:33 | sekjal | is there the correct number of modifications, can you tell? |
| 16:34 | jcamins | I think so. |
| 16:34 | I'm not entirely certain, though. | |
| 16:34 | I will try modifying things, and see if I can reproduce the problem. | |
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| 16:40 | jcamins | The right number of log entries, but I have no idea what it's doing. |
| 16:40 | sekjal | any chance the biblionumber is being confused with the itemnumber? |
| 16:40 | jcamins | Yep. |
| 16:40 | That's it. | |
| 16:40 | sekjal | should be an easy fix, then |
| 16:41 | jcamins | When we edit an item, it claims that we edited a biblio and shows just the 952. |
| 16:41 | And, of course, the biblionumber it suggests is completely bizarre. | |
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| 16:42 | jcamins | Modifying biblios seems to show up properly. |
| 16:42 | As does adding items. | |
| 16:43 | Deleting a biblio results in a broken link, which is kind of silly, but understandable. | |
| 16:44 | sekjal | hmmm |
| 16:45 | jcamins | I'll create an item and delete it to see what happens. |
| 16:46 | It shows up properly in the log, but the link doesn't go to the record it was deleted from. | |
| 16:46 | Which is surely a bug. | |
| 16:47 | sekjal | sounds like |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Instead it goes to a valid-looking page showing an item with no fields filled in, but when you try to go to a view of the biblio, you get an error. |
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| 17:29 | owen | hdl, are you available for a question? |
| 17:29 | hdl | yes ? |
| 17:30 | owen | Bug 4048 had been marked as "patch sent" at one point. Is that something Biblibre has in a development branch? |
| 17:30 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, NEW, js libs must be outside of translated paths |
| 17:30 | owen | And are your branches available to view on the web? http://git.biblibre.com doesn't work anymore |
| 17:31 | hdl | we had a some trouble lately. |
| 17:31 | git.biblibre.com should come back next week | |
| 17:34 | It seems strange that nahuel marked that as patch sent if he sent no patches for that. | |
| 17:34 | marking it as open is sound to me | |
| 17:34 | owen | hdl: Okay, I was going to try doing some work on it, and I didn't want to duplicate someone else's efforts |
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| 19:18 | owen | My pending patches are combining together to form a hyper-intelligent cyber-being intent on destroying all humans. |
| 19:19 | jcamins | owen: that doesn't sound good. |
| 19:19 | owen | Oh, speaking of which: sekjal you were looking for that usetablesforcirc patch again? |
| 19:20 | wizzyrea_ | owen: omg, koha is becoming sentient? |
| 19:21 | owen | It sounds good, but I think really it would stop answering questions and go bum around Europe for a while. |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea_ | :) |
| 19:21 | sekjal | owen: I was able to get it |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea_ | *sniff* it's growing up, isn't it |
| 19:23 | chris | wiki updaed |
| 19:24 | with foundation/association stuff | |
| 19:24 | owen | chris++ |
| 19:24 | chris | i knew we had talked about al this before :) |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea_ | chris++ |
| 19:24 | owen | Sounded vaguely familiar, eh? |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea_ | heh |
| 19:24 | chris | yeah, i remember a vote, and everything |
| 19:25 | jcamins | chris++ |
| 19:25 | wizzyrea_ | we had these long meetings... |
| 19:25 | jcamins | The "Forming a Koha Foundation" page has a really long list of 1s in the middle. |
| 19:26 | chris | and ppl agreed to transfer assets to HLT, and everyone did |
| 19:26 | owen | And you were there, and you were there, and you were there! It all seemed so real... |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Is anyone working on that page, or shall I remove them? |
| 19:26 | chris | well everyone except one company |
| 19:26 | go for it jcamins | |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea_ | owen really did almost get sucked up in a tornado last night |
| 19:26 | chris | i did realise what annoyed me most |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea_ | what's that |
| 19:27 | chris | it was the complete disregard for the past |
| 19:27 | in the initial mail, and then in those who responded saying, yeah forget the past | |
| 19:27 | and i know why | |
| 19:27 | its what racists say about the treaty of waitangi here in nz too | |
| 19:28 | it probably jarred lenora the same way | |
| 19:28 | took me a while to figure out what it was i actually objected to | |
| 19:28 | jcamins | I can't figure out how to fix it. |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea_ | I think it's fine that we remember what they did, it's not like they can un-do |
| 19:28 | they can only try to be better. | |
| 19:29 | chris | not even that |
| 19:29 | more that we hadnt even considered | |
| 19:29 | and agreed on a course of action | |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea_ | oh, yea, and now they're like HEY, consider US |
| 19:29 | chris | yeah |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea_ | erm... |
| 19:29 | well... | |
| 19:29 | chris | ;) |
| 19:29 | jcamins: ill take a look | |
| 19:30 | wiki syntax is a black art | |
| 19:30 | owen | What bugs me is "We have decided that we shall form a foundation and please let us know if you want in on that." |
| 19:30 | jcamins | chris: Thanks. |
| 19:31 | owen | And then we're supposed to fall over ourselves with gratitude. |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea_ | let me tell you what I am grateful for: |
| 19:32 | I am grateful that at the very least we're talking about it again. | |
| 19:32 | because I think that's good. | |
| 19:32 | and I am grateful that there will be many smart people considering the options | |
| 19:33 | owen | Very true. It's possible that this will actually lead to an agreement that everyone is happy with. |
| 19:33 | I *still* think there are conditions that we don't know about yet | |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea_ | I think you're probably right about that |
| 19:35 | chris | hows that now jcamins |
| 19:35 | jcamins | Much better, thanks! |
| 19:36 | chris | cool |
| 19:36 | so now, we just wait for the ptfs proposal | |
| 19:36 | and we can whack it into the matrix along with all the rest | |
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| 19:38 | jcamins | Hopefully they'll post it soon. :) |
| 19:43 | sekjal | have a great weekend, #koha! |
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| 20:01 | chris_n | chris++ #for getting things off to a start on the wiki |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea_ | and jcamins! |
| 20:01 | jcamins++ | |
| 20:01 | jcamins | Just pointing out that I can't offer my opinion if I don't know what everyone's talking about. :) |
| 20:02 | chris | :) |
| 20:02 | * chris_n | seems to remember being here once before |
| 20:03 | jcamins | I actually wasn't, so I'm not ignoring the past. ;) |
| 20:03 | * chris_n | tries to shake himself awake... only to find he already is awake |
| 20:04 | chris | put it on the wiki |
| 20:04 | is my new | |
| 20:04 | "send a patch": | |
| 20:06 | chris_n | ahh... jim provides more wiki fodder |
| 20:06 | chris | yeah i replied saying put it on the wiki |
| 20:06 | chris_n | that's probably the most informative post I've seen in this entire thread(s) |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea_ | he actually does have quite a bit of very recent experience with forming a 501c3 foundation, as he just spearheaded creating the NEKLS foundation :) |
| 20:07 | chris_n | its very nice to have that sort of experience/expertise on board imho |
| 20:07 | chris | yup |
| 20:07 | chris_n | I'd like to see similar information from other countries as well |
| 20:08 | chris | there is a bit about nz already |
| 20:08 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ation#New_Zealand | |
| 20:08 | jims stuff should go under | |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea_ | < personally would probably rather see it in another country, on principle |
| 20:09 | chris | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ion#United_States |
| 20:09 | *nod* | |
| 20:09 | jcamins | Having just established a regular, for-profit LLC, I have to say that I think Jim is undervaluing his understanding of forming non-profits. |
| 20:10 | * jcamins | would agree with wizzyrea |
| 20:10 | * chris_n | is a fan of HTL |
| 20:10 | chris | the more i think about tit |
| 20:10 | it | |
| 20:10 | lol | |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea_ | lol |
| 20:10 | best typo ever. | |
| 20:11 | chris | the more i think about it, the more i like SPI, or just leaving it with HLT |
| 20:11 | since they both already exist | |
| 20:11 | * owen | finds that this discussion always makes him want to defer to someone smarter |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea_ | this and the licensing discussion |
| 20:12 | chris | im all about SEP |
| 20:12 | schuster | Yep I agree with owen and wizzyrea |
| 20:12 | * chris_n | keeps waiting for thd-away to fire his guns |
| 20:12 | chris | id like to just write some code |
| 20:13 | * brendan | finds he's leaning more and more towards SPI or something similar |
| 20:13 | chris | HLT exist, covered by super strong laws and auditors and are outside us legal jurisdiction |
| 20:13 | which is 3 wins in my book | |
| 20:13 | owen | "neener-neener-neener" |
| 20:13 | chris | :) |
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| 20:14 | jcamins | What's SEP? |
| 20:14 | owen | Given past history I would be surprised if PTFS was willing to go agree to HLT |
| 20:14 | chris | Someone Elses Problem |
| 20:14 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 20:15 | chris | yeah, for that i lean to SPI |
| 20:15 | as a compromise position | |
| 20:17 | owen | chris I thought you had said Software Freedom Conservancy |
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| 20:18 | chris | yeah i change my mind daily |
| 20:18 | * owen | doesn't know what SPI is |
| 20:18 | chris | spi seems a little more democratic |
| 20:18 | chris_n | heh |
| 20:18 | chris | http://spi-inc.org/ |
| 20:18 | * owen | liked the SFC member list at least |
| 20:18 | chris | they look after stuff for debian |
| 20:19 | * chris_n | heads for home |
| 20:19 | chris | and drupal and openoffice etc |
| 20:19 | http://www.spi-inc.org/projects | |
| 20:19 | oh and postgres | |
| 20:20 | owen | I guess using Drupal for their site was a conflict of interest, hence Plone :) |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea_ | that's like getting in the deep end of the pool. I like it |
| 20:20 | chris | chris_n: http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]g-and-short-term/ |
| 20:25 | owen | I'm off. Have a great weekend everyone |
| 20:25 | wizzyrea_ | bye owen |
| 20:26 | have a great weekend | |
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| 21:49 | CGI244 | Hey everyone, I'm having trouble with the OPAC giving "No results match your search" for every search query while the staff client has no problem. I have googled this problem and tried everything I found (hiding lost items is not enabled, and neither is suppression) but to no avail. I'm running a fresh install of Koha "Harley". Any suggestions for what to try or check next? |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea_ | http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 21:51 | though you're not really running koha. the harley is a proprietary fork of koha | |
| 21:51 | it's easy to be confused | |
| 21:52 | CGI244 | Ok...I've tried all of those suggestions... |
| 22:03 | Any thing else I can check? | |
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| 22:31 | wizzyrea_ | sorry, the harley people will have to help you with that and they're not around. :( |
| 22:31 | CGI244 | Gotcha, thanks! |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea_ | oof |
| 23:25 | brendan | later all - have a great weekend :) |
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