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03:12 | Amit | heya chris |
03:12 | chris | hi Amit |
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04:01 | chris | hey rachel |
04:03 | rachel | hi chris |
04:03 | chris | get a cupcake? |
04:04 | rachel | and everyone else :-) |
04:04 | I did thanks - man that was some run on the neo cupcakes | |
04:04 | robin | chris: actually, a jquery upgrade to 1.4.2 might be a good first-thing for 3.4 development, so that way there's plenty of time to find and fix issues. |
04:05 | chris | yeah, good idea robin |
04:05 | * rachel | is trawling for PR Fodder - big/interesting/important libraries using Koha |
04:05 | rachel | the ones in brazil? |
04:05 | chris | ahh |
04:05 | Delhi public | |
04:05 | i use that one often | |
04:05 | robin | chris: it's a bit of a trip there |
04:06 | rachel | what was the national library - |
04:06 | chris | rachel: http://bpraweb.puntobiblio.com/ <-- argentinian national library |
04:06 | http://fpl.apkn.org/ <-- a bunch of african countries parliamentary libraries | |
04:07 | http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]rance&Type=Public | |
04:07 | check out the second graph there | |
04:07 | rachel | Bonza thank you |
04:08 | and is that just biblibre? | |
04:08 | chris | thats just for france |
04:08 | so yeah, just biblibre | |
04:08 | tis pretty cool that by number of libraries its the 2nd most used library system | |
04:09 | rachel | Yeah nice |
04:09 | chris | for a nice image |
04:10 | http://www.librarytechnology.org/map.pl?ILS=Koha | |
04:10 | screenshot of that might be cool | |
04:10 | (takes a while to load) | |
04:10 | rachel | cheers |
04:11 | robin | funny how there's no Canada on that map |
04:11 | oh, | |
04:11 | no, I was looking at the wrong line | |
04:14 | chris | heh |
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04:29 | * rachel | waves to Paul |
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07:22 | chris | evening |
07:22 | paul_p | hi chris & al |
07:23 | magnus | hiya chris, paul_p & #koha |
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08:21 | jransom | Reminder: Koha Committee Meeting 9am NZ time 31st August. |
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08:55 | cait | hi #koha |
08:56 | chris | hi cait |
08:58 | magnus | hi cait |
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09:20 | cait | hi chris and magnus :) |
09:41 | Amit | heya cait, davi |
09:44 | cait | hi Amit |
09:47 | davi | hi Amit |
09:48 | Have been the AGPLv3+, GPLv3+, and <stay as now> re-licensing options | |
09:49 | already added to wiki or somewhere to review | |
09:49 | and later vote | |
09:49 | ? | |
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12:35 | magnus | wow http://www.whois.net/whois/koha-community.us :-( |
12:37 | cait | : |
12:37 | :( | |
12:43 | wasabi | ... considering that PTFS still wont publicly acknowledge kc.org, they seem busy registering many kc.org DNS variations |
12:44 | $ whois koha-community.net | |
12:44 | $ whois koha-community.com | |
12:44 | $ whois kohacommunity.org | |
12:45 | all registered to PTFS, all point to nowhere... :( | |
12:46 | magnus | as opposed to koha-community.biz, registered by calyx, which points to koha-community.org |
12:47 | oh well, must try not to waste too much adrenalin on it... | |
12:47 | wasabi | yes, correct magnus! |
12:47 | schuster | good idea. |
12:48 | wasabi | i discovered this myself on satuday |
12:48 | cait | *sighs* |
12:48 | wasabi | i think its worth a discussion on the koha lists, myself |
12:49 | people need to know this stuff david | |
12:49 | schuster | I don't disagree... |
12:50 | wasabi | its not OK or 'just business', its unacceptable behavior |
12:50 | cait | wasabi: it makes me sad, I am past angry |
12:50 | ok, time to go for me, I get my new passport for nz today :) | |
12:51 | bye all | |
12:51 | magnus | bye cait |
12:52 | wasabi | cool, see you soon :) |
12:52 | paul_p | wasabi, it's better to have koha-community.com /us/net pointing nowhere tha pointing to koha.org ! |
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12:52 | paul_p | and every irc regular knows that we can't trust ptfs managers (but can trust ptfs developers, that are on the channel everyday) |
12:53 | magnus | yeah, i don't envy the developers... |
12:54 | paul_p | right ! fortunatly, ptfs if a "big" company, so devs have no daily relations with the boss... (fortunatly, or unfortunatly, hélas...) |
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12:56 | wasabi | i imagine PTFS management are still deciding if they will redirect their kc.org variants back to koha.org, and get away with it... |
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13:03 | wasabi | paul_p: i dont trust anyone that works for a company that is blatantly attempting to destabilize the project, period |
13:05 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
13:05 | paul_p | wasabi, you can trust jwagner & druthb when they ask or give help. And i't always a technical things. Because they are devs & really don't know anything about the strategy their bosses does or plans. |
13:05 | @jwagner++ | |
13:05 | munin | paul_p: Error: "jwagner++" is not a valid command. |
13:05 | paul_p | jwagner++ |
13:05 | druthb++ | |
13:06 | jcamins | Morning, #koha |
13:17 | wasabi | paul_p: i think they *do* know about the strategy/plans of their bosses |
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13:17 | wasabi | i mean, we all know... |
13:18 | you/me, everyone else that cares, and wants to be informed about whats happening | |
13:18 | paul_p | wasabi, nope, we don't know. We see what they do, we listen what they say, we read what they write, but ... it's inconsistent : facts are not related to writings or speech. So we don't know. The only thing we know is that we can't trust them... |
13:19 | ivanc | hi all |
13:19 | wasabi | heya ivanc |
13:19 | * paul_p | realize wasabi is mason who loves sushis... ;-) |
13:20 | wasabi | yeah, click ;) |
13:20 | thats why i know... | |
13:21 | ... as i worked for liblime, so i was privy to a lot of internal email and info | |
13:22 | paul_p | LL <> ptfs, jane (that I met in Dallas) told me it's much different in ptfs. |
13:22 | it's really a top-down management. | |
13:22 | * sekjal | is catching up on all the latest news... ::sigh:: |
13:23 | wasabi | oh, heya sekjal |
13:23 | sekjal | hey, wasabi |
13:25 | wasabi | PTFS aggressiveness to liblime seemed to work successfully |
13:25 | ... in that liblime sold-out to PTFS | |
13:26 | its just a pity that PTFS seem to be applying the same aggressive-method to the koha-project itself | |
13:26 | paul_p | wasabi, are you sure ll sold-out ? isn't it also a problem of kados behaviour ? when you resigned, it was not due to ptfs iirc ! |
13:26 | wasabi | i didnt resign sweetie ;) |
13:27 | paul_p | ??? |
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13:28 | wasabi | sweetie means 'dear friend' |
13:28 | NZ slang | |
13:30 | anyhoo, back to some work now.... | |
13:30 | paul_p | wasabi, yes, I understand sweetie. |
13:30 | wasabi | ah |
13:30 | paul_p | what I don't understand is "i didn't resign" ! |
13:30 | * paul_p | thought you all 3 resigned ! |
13:31 | wasabi | aah, well... i didnt :) |
13:31 | no, just 2 | |
13:31 | paul_p | and you ? you were fired ? |
13:31 | wasabi | no :) |
13:31 | paul_p | so you're still a LLer :D |
13:31 | wasabi | i was.. 'let go' |
13:32 | paul_p | wow... 'let go' does not exist in france :D |
13:32 | wasabi | i werked for 1 extra month, to help complete some client go-lives |
13:35 | ok.... happy cybersquatting people, im off | |
13:35 | sekjal | later, wasabi! |
13:36 | ivanc | hi wasaby :) |
13:36 | wasabi | paul_p: i notice 'biblibre.co.nz' is current available for purchase! |
13:36 | $ whois biblibre.co.nz | |
13:36 | paul_p | lol |
13:37 | wasabi | hmmm, where is my visa-card?!?!?!!! |
13:37 | omg! | |
13:37 | ha ha , i joke ;) | |
13:37 | * paul_p | comes to NZ in oct. Why do you think I come? I'm on the way to buy catalist. and next year, we will buy google & maybe microsoft too |
13:37 | wasabi | and me too! |
13:38 | magnus | oh no, paul_p is loosing it... ;-) |
13:42 | ivanc | I've a problem with the creation of different language ( opac ) italian and german |
13:42 | I've try with this : ./tmpl_process3.pl install -i /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en -o /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/it-IT -s /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/po/it-IT-i-opac-t-prog-v-3000000.po | |
13:42 | but without success any idea? | |
13:49 | magnus | ivanc: not sure i have any ideas, but what version are you running and do you get any error messages? |
13:50 | ivanc | manguns: the koha version is the 3.00.06 |
13:50 | i try to run it in /usr/share/koha/misc/translator | |
13:51 | and the error is Use of uninitalized value in hash element ( the same error ) if i download the .po files from internet | |
13:52 | the directory /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/it-IT is empty | |
14:02 | magnus | hm, afraid i can't be of much help there... maybe someone else? |
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14:06 | ivanc | magnus tnks: the question is, this is the right command to create/generate more languages? |
14:09 | magnus | ivanc: i think so. there is a new script called just translate in HEAD: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e96a6e5a9;hb=HEAD but this is not in 3.00.06: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fba02e537877b401d |
14:12 | ivanc | magnus: tnks ! is sensate to try in my version? |
14:14 | magnus | tmpl_process3.pl should work on 3.00.06... |
14:20 | ivanc | magnus: tnks |
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14:21 | nengard | anyone want to come over and get me a snack? :) |
14:25 | magnus | sure! ;-) |
14:26 | jcamins | nengard: depends... is there enough for me to have a snack too? ;) |
14:26 | nengard | absolutely |
14:26 | :) | |
14:26 | plenty of food in the house - just too much effort for me to get up and get it back to a seat when on crutches :) | |
14:27 | jcamins | Then I'd be happy too. |
14:27 | Sadly I'm in NYC and I can't leave the library unattended. | |
14:27 | nengard | LOL |
14:27 | it's just a 2 hour train ride :) 4 hours of a closed library | |
14:28 | wizzyrea | jcamins: how was the wedding? |
14:28 | nengard | alright .. up I get ... be back eventually :) |
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14:28 | jcamins | wizzyrea: Wonderful! |
14:28 | wizzyrea | |o? |
14:28 | \o/ | |
14:28 | I mean | |
14:28 | (yay) | |
14:28 | jcamins | I was wondering what that was. |
14:29 | wizzyrea | it's a lil person with their arms up "YAY!" |
14:31 | jcamins | Yeah, I recognized the second one. |
14:31 | The ring is going to take a while to get used to, though, I think. | |
14:32 | magnus | congrats! you get used to it, eventually... ;-) |
14:32 | jcamins | As is the word "wife." |
14:32 | Thanks. | |
14:38 | nengard | it's actually surprising how quickly it becomes the norm - both the ring and the new labels :) |
14:39 | and congrats from me too :) | |
14:39 | jcamins | I can see how that could be... it wasn't much of an adjustment to go from "girlfriend" to "fiancee" in December. |
14:39 | Thanks. | |
14:41 | nengard | also - how did I not know you were so close jcamins? |
14:42 | I'm terrible at remembering names and locations ;) hehe | |
14:43 | jcamins | Well, when we met a few years ago, I had just returned to the States from Afghanistan. |
14:44 | A lot of people associate me with "far away," after my many jaunts abroad. ;) | |
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14:51 | jcamins | Oh, by the way, if anyone finds they want a very simple "Image library" feature integrated into Koha, there's a branch in my github repository. |
14:53 | "Image library" makes it sound like a much fancier feature than it is. | |
14:53 | If anyone needs a feature that adds the display of images listed in 856's to Koha, there is a branch in my github repository. | |
14:53 | ^ better description | |
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15:04 | mib_gjeh2 | Hello - would anyone help me with a strange slowness problem when opening a record in the admin page? |
15:10 | ivanc | mib_gjeh2: I do not know if I can help you, but I'm here, I am not a developer Koha, but I'm trying to use |
15:17 | mib_gjeh2 | Thanks! Basically, when we login to the Admin client and run a search the first screen comes back fine. However, if we select any title the next screen takes about 60 seconds to open! |
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15:20 | nengard | jcamins that sounds like a neat feature - you should submit it to HEAD |
15:20 | mib_jhej2 i think someone on list said to try and disable javascript to speed things up ... but i might be mixing up things i've read (my head is on cold meds right now) | |
15:21 | wizzyrea | I wonder what kind of hardware you are running on mib_gjeh2 |
15:22 | jcamins | nengard: I plan on submitting all my changes, although it may take a bit. |
15:22 | nengard | cool (not the taking a bit part - but the submitting part) :) |
15:26 | jcamins | I believe very strongly in open source. And more practically, I like it when people who are smarter than I am improve features I want. ;) |
15:26 | mib_gjeh2 | Its a bog standard i686 debian install on a HP DL 380 G4 server |
15:26 | 32 it | |
15:26 | bit | |
15:27 | wizzyrea | have you tried disabling the javascript? |
15:27 | (because otherwise it might be a mysql performance thign) | |
15:27 | thing* | |
15:27 | mib_gjeh2 | no....can you help me out there? Is that on the client side? |
15:27 | wizzyrea | yep, in your web browser |
15:27 | also, IE or firefox or chrome or... | |
15:27 | what are you using? | |
15:28 | mib_gjeh2 | firefox....had problem with IE so only firefox |
15:28 | wizzyrea | http://www.alanwood.net/demos/[…]g-javascript.html |
15:29 | mib_gjeh2 | its a very small database to be a mysql issue, I think! |
15:29 | wizzyrea | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t[…]MDDhkG-AyGE9dQ6rA |
15:29 | yikes | |
15:29 | http://mistered.us/tips/javascript/firefox.shtml | |
15:29 | is nicer | |
15:31 | mib_gjeh2 | OK, I will take a look......thanks |
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15:55 | cait | hi again #koha |
15:56 | rhcl_kell | Hello! |
15:56 | jcamins | Hello cait |
15:56 | cait | hi rhcl_kell and jcamins :) |
15:57 | rhcl_kell | Today our library is going live with Koha! |
15:57 | * wizzyrea | cheers |
15:57 | jcamins | Yay! |
15:57 | wizzyrea | congrats :) |
15:57 | * druthb | waves to cait |
15:59 | cait | hi druthb :) |
16:00 | jcamins | cait: did you get your passport? |
16:00 | cait | yep |
16:00 | with an ugly biometric photo in it :) | |
16:06 | jcamins | That's the best kind. |
16:07 | I got one of the last non-"smart" passports from the US. | |
16:07 | mib_gjeh2 | Hey,. I tried disabling Javascript in the browser but the problem remains! |
16:11 | wizzyrea | bummer. |
16:11 | do you have xslt detail display on or off? | |
16:11 | jcamins | mib_gjeh2: I don't really have any suggestions, but what version of Koha are you using? |
16:11 | wizzyrea | in your system preferences? |
16:12 | jcamins | And are you using Zebra? |
16:12 | mib_gjeh2 | 3.0.05 - can't upgrade just due to OS issues |
16:13 | jcamins | OS issues? |
16:13 | mib_gjeh2 | Yes, we are using Zebra....was thinking or rebuilding the indexes but not sure that would make a difference. |
16:13 | Sorry, more OS dependancies | |
16:13 | modules that Koha above 3.0.05 require conflict with other modules running on the system | |
16:13 | jcamins | Ah. |
16:14 | wizzyrea | oh, never mind. 3.0.6 doesn't have the xslt detail display in the intranet (I think) |
16:14 | mib_gjeh2 | 3.0.5? |
16:14 | wizzyrea | or whatever 3.0.x version |
16:14 | you are using | |
16:15 | how many items do you have on this bib? | |
16:15 | lots? | |
16:15 | mib_gjeh2 | Ah.....wondering about the index rebuild? Or the mysql preformance issues, are there any housekeeping tips you can recommend? |
16:16 | It's any bib, not just one......all bibs take the same time to display | |
16:16 | wizzyrea | the indexing should only affect the results |
16:16 | jcamins | mig_gjeh2: how long have you had the server running? |
16:16 | wizzyrea | do they all have lots of items on them? (lots = more than 100) |
16:16 | jcamins | I'm wondering if it could be the session table. |
16:16 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
16:17 | mib_gjeh2 | A while, we did reboot today though - no change. No big bibs (certainly none near 100 items attached) |
16:17 | session table? | |
16:17 | Should I trunc it? | |
16:17 | jcamins | Yeah. Every single connection gets a row in the session table. |
16:17 | That's what I was going to suggest. | |
16:17 | mib_gjeh2 | does it purge on reboot? |
16:17 | jcamins | I think there's a script that can do that for you. |
16:17 | No, it's persistent. | |
16:17 | mib_gjeh2 | is it a system table or a koha table? |
16:18 | jcamins | misc/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl |
16:18 | mib_gjeh2 | NICE! |
16:18 | jcamins | It's a Koha table. |
16:18 | mib_gjeh2 | I will take a look, sounds like it might be promising! - thanks! |
16:18 | jcamins | Actually, use that to clean up the zebraqueue, too, while you're at it. |
16:18 | We had problems when our zebraqueue had 500k rows. | |
16:19 | mib_gjeh2 | will do......I shall let ye kind people know how I get on....... |
16:19 | jcamins | Good luck! |
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16:29 | mib_gjeh2 | Just a quick one......any suggestion on the number of days to use when doing the cleanup of Zebraqueue? |
16:31 | druthb | Most of our sites that use that feature use 7-10 days, mib_gjeh2. |
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16:37 | mib_gjeh2 | Thanks! |
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16:51 | wizzyrea | what does the constrainttype field in the reserves table denote? |
16:51 | cait | wizzyrea: just guessing, show title level and item level holds? |
16:52 | wizzyrea | doesn't seem to |
16:52 | sekjal | wizzyrea: as far as I know, it's not used currently |
16:52 | wizzyrea | it looks to me like the only difference between an item level and a title level hold is that item levels start with an itemnumber |
16:52 | sekjal | it's just universally 'a', or it's broken |
16:52 | wizzyrea | where title levels start out with NULL |
16:52 | sekjal: thanks | |
16:52 | sekjal | wizzyrea: correct. |
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17:28 | ivanc | tnks for all bye |
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17:28 | jcamins | Does anyone happen to recall the standard for how tightly packed books should be on library shelves? |
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18:04 | LibraryGu | Hullo |
18:04 | How is progress on the 3.2 release? | |
18:08 | gmcharlt | LibraryGu: awaiting a few final bug fixes |
18:10 | LibraryGu | Oh cool. |
18:11 | I wonder if there will be a live install CD | |
18:20 | gmcharlt | LibraryGu: yep, I imagine so |
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18:20 | chris | wasabi++ |
18:22 | LibraryGu | wasabi?? |
18:22 | Oh Ubuntu? | |
18:23 | chris | no, its someones nickname, nothing to do with the live cd, i was just reading scrollback |
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19:17 | * chris_n | decries the advent of more stupidity |
19:23 | * wizzyrea | nods |
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19:30 | LibraryGu | chris_n: whose? |
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19:31 | chris_n | LibraryGu: a reference to what chris was reading that wasabi wrote about |
19:32 | chris | Back from the bus stop |
19:33 | LibraryGu | Cheeky |
19:36 | chris | Gotta love bip |
19:39 | jcamins | chris: Books-in-Print? |
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19:39 | chris | Naw the software I'm using to do irc proxy |
19:39 | Larsw put me on to it | |
19:39 | jcamins | Ah. |
19:41 | Whoops... looks like LC is having some encoding issues. | |
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19:42 | chris | Morning antisirk |
19:42 | You are at work early | |
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19:51 | joetho | Hello Koha |
19:52 | anitsirk | hello chris and joetho. good morning. yep. got in early today. and as you can see, i can connect to the channel again. it wouldn't let me yesterday at all. |
19:53 | chris | Yeah I think I know why |
19:53 | Too many from the same ip | |
19:55 | Ill see if we can get that upped | |
19:57 | * chris | is on the bus |
19:58 | chris | I should show you how I do that on your phone |
20:00 | Right my stop, be back after coffee | |
20:01 | anitsirk | cool. sounds great. enjoy your coffe, chris. |
20:08 | joetho | Chris and I have coffee together sometimes. |
20:08 | <---round the clock coffee drinker | |
20:08 | wizzyrea | hehe |
20:08 | chris | heh |
20:08 | back | |
20:09 | joetho | hey Chris |
20:09 | are you about ready for a nice cold beer? | |
20:09 | Sure you are. | |
20:09 | chris | in about 8 hours time |
20:09 | wizzyrea | can I bring beer into NZ with me? Not that i'd need to, but say I wanted to bring *special* beer |
20:09 | joetho | but give the little guy his breakfast first. |
20:10 | chris | yes you can |
20:10 | wizzyrea | wooo! |
20:10 | * wizzyrea | contemplates which of the fine local brews to pack to bring to chris ;) |
20:10 | wizzyrea | since I owe him a lot of beer |
20:10 | a LOT | |
20:10 | chris | you can bring as much as you want, but over a certain amount you have to pay duty |
20:10 | joetho | really. But no rutabega? |
20:11 | chris | Liquor: Six bottles (4.5 litres) of wine, port or sherry or 12 cans (4.5 litres) of beer. Plus three bottles (or other containers) each containing no more than 1125mls of spirits, liqueur, or other spirituous beverages. |
20:11 | is the duty free allowance | |
20:11 | wizzyrea | aha, ty |
20:12 | and peanut butter. lol. | |
20:12 | goldfish crackers. | |
20:16 | anitsirk | yummy. unfortunately, you can't bring the carob bars from a coop with you as they are not sealed but sold loose. |
20:18 | chris | wizzyrea: laurel is off to the US next monday, so we wont need a huge peanut butter, and goldfish cracker supply, she will undoubtedly bring tons back :) |
20:18 | wizzyrea | hehehe |
20:18 | chris | and twizzlers |
20:18 | wizzyrea | oh right i forgot about that |
20:18 | about her trip | |
20:18 | tell her to wave as she flies over kansas. Well, she probably won't | |
20:18 | actually | |
20:18 | she can wave in our general direction | |
20:19 | chris | lax to pittsburgh, dunno where that goes |
20:19 | she might be about ready to throw the kids out at you by that point | |
20:19 | will be about 30 hours into the journey | |
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20:28 | richard | hi |
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20:34 | joetho | the Kansas Attorney General once arrested people on an airliner passing over Kansas because they were breaking the stringent Kansas liquor laws. |
20:35 | jcamins | joetho: that sounds apocryphal. |
20:35 | Regardless, good night, #koha | |
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20:40 | joetho | 3.2 by 2011 |
20:40 | 322011 | |
20:40 | 342021 | |
20:44 | hdl | Hi |
20:46 | chris | hi hdl |
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20:51 | jo | morning all |
20:51 | just getting george in | |
20:52 | hdl | hi jo |
20:53 | jo | hiya |
20:54 | committee meeting in #kohacommittee | |
20:55 | chris | jo: everyon is in in #kohasubcom |
20:55 | jo | ah |
20:55 | there you go | |
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20:56 | hdl | Hi schuster |
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21:57 | larsw | chris, bip is nifty, isn't it? |
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22:48 | chris | larsw: it sure is, how is sydney? |
22:51 | robin | larsw: watch out for the spiders. and jellyfish. and dropbears. and scorpians. and platapuses. and sharks. and australians. and snakes. |
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22:53 | chris | hi LBA |
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