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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:02 | darling | we really need to get koha-community.org higher in the google rank -- maybe we should add "official" or similar in the home page title so it shows in the google results |
| 00:02 | or some little phrase like that in the title | |
| 00:06 | Braedon | @wunder auckland |
| 00:06 | munin | Braedon: The current temperature in Auckland, New Zealand is 15.0�C (12:00 PM NZST on August 25, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 00:12 | robin | darling: the best way is to wait until links start to change. Especially if you can get public catalogues to have a link back to it by default. |
| 00:14 | darling | ah! is that where the ranking is coming from? -- lot's of existing public installations pointing back to poo url |
| 00:15 | robin | well, I'm under the impression that it is. Lots of high-quality sites (eg. at companies, universities) linking to you is a good thing. |
| 00:19 | chris | yeah |
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| 01:14 | wajasu | ok. got my dev install running. |
| 01:14 | more stuff showing on XSLT details/results. | |
| 01:15 | shouldn't the field being shown as Literary Form: not fiction be Literary Form: non fiction? not vs non | |
| 01:17 | chris | you'd have to ask a cataloguer that ;) |
| 01:17 | wajasu | And comparing my older version, I see that Series: has no field data showing. Just the Label for the same reocrd. |
| 01:20 | The XSLT is there for it. But nothing showing. Maybe a bug was introduced? If you are running a dev install. Can someone pull up any Series item and see the Series text? | |
| 01:21 | if not, I'll log a bug for that. It was there 3 wks ago. | |
| 01:27 | I see they got rid of the trailing "/" delimeter for the XSLT results title. (Ah but its there for the corresponding right to left language title still). And its there in the XSLT details still. | |
| 01:28 | ah, and the 505 fields are there now. | |
| 01:39 | and some 6xx and 8xx fields too. My librarian will be happier. | |
| 01:40 | 260a is missing (i.e. publisher location a.k.a London) | |
| 01:42 | maybe some general notes could be shown. (i.e. as in ISBD view) | |
| 01:44 | But overall, now the XSLTdetails have filled out as an academic library needs to distinguish editions, content, etc. | |
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| 03:17 | jo | Chris: levin trip at KohaCon 2010 just stepped up to a whole nother level |
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| 03:17 | jo | they are going to give us a taiaha challenge |
| 03:18 | have colleges in doing a kapa haka performance | |
| 03:18 | robin | which of the attendees gets to use the taiaha? ;) |
| 03:18 | chris | a full wero? |
| 03:18 | jo | yep |
| 03:18 | want 2 speakers from our side: you in Te Reo plus Ema calling | |
| 03:18 | chris | bags not being the one picking up taki |
| 03:19 | jo | plus a distinguisehed guest from our side as well |
| 03:19 | we'll have to sort that out my friend... | |
| 03:19 | robin | Wish I had a car to drive myself up there for it now :) |
| 03:19 | jo | hangi is definitely on the cards |
| 03:19 | come in the bus robin | |
| 03:19 | chris | you dont want to come on the bus? |
| 03:19 | robin | well, I didn't want to steal a seat from someone who wouldn't otherwish have a chance |
| 03:20 | jo | They want us there at 4pm so will have to negotiate with Council |
| 03:20 | lots of seats Robin | |
| 03:20 | and if we have too many peole OI have a car we can use | |
| 03:20 | and we can get a shuttle / mini van | |
| 03:20 | robin | oh OK then. Twist my arm why don't you :) |
| 03:20 | chris | :) |
| 03:20 | jo | bring you your wife / girlfriend / girls |
| 03:20 | chris | heh |
| 03:21 | robin | All of them? They're not supposed to meet! |
| 03:22 | jo | hehe |
| 03:22 | there will be kids floating around out there so the more the merrier | |
| 03:22 | and they may want a hand from some volunteers to prepare the hangi | |
| 03:23 | robin | I haven't done one of those for a good number of years. |
| 03:26 | jo | oh Robin ! just discovered that koha paypal button is adding GST on |
| 03:26 | I'll change it immediately and I owe you a refund | |
| 03:27 | robin | Oh, OK. I saw that but I didn't think anything of it. |
| 03:30 | jo | i updated the button and obviously did the GST wrong |
| 03:30 | the earlier enrolmenst went through correctly | |
| 03:30 | sorry | |
| 03:32 | robin | no problem |
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| 03:35 | chris | jo: that means 2 waiata |
| 03:44 | jo | yes. |
| 03:44 | he warned me of that | |
| 03:44 | so we willneed 2. | |
| 03:44 | chris | maybe we will do maku ra pea for the distinguished speaker |
| 03:44 | jo | he offered to stand on our side if we needed him to |
| 03:44 | chris | and i can do one for me |
| 03:45 | jo | but was very happy to hear you speak reo |
| 03:45 | Ema can call if we have no one more willing | |
| 03:46 | chris | i think ema is probably the best bet |
| 03:46 | jo | yep |
| 03:46 | I think local Iwi are pulling out all the stops for us .... pretty humbling | |
| 03:47 | and will be a brilliant experience for our overseas visitors | |
| 03:47 | chris | yup |
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| 04:00 | chris | heya brendan |
| 04:00 | brendan | heya chris |
| 04:11 | Amit | heya chris, brendan |
| 04:11 | brendan | hey amit |
| 04:11 | chris | hiya amit |
| 04:11 | Amit | chris: Today India vs NZ |
| 04:12 | chris | should be a good game, oram is out |
| 04:13 | Amit | hmmm.......may be hope so.. from indian side |
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| 04:42 | jo | hey amit |
| 04:45 | Amit | heya jo |
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| 05:00 | jo | Amit: are you coming to Koha Con? |
| 05:00 | Amit | Jo: I think no |
| 05:00 | jo | thats a shame .. I was so looking forward to meeting you |
| 05:01 | brendan | jo you going to KohaCon ;) |
| 05:40 | jo | Brendan - yes, thought I might :) |
| 05:41 | brendan | :) |
| 05:52 | Amit | @weather New Delhi |
| 05:52 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 27.0�C (11:00 AM IST on August 25, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 26.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 05:52 | Amit | @weather Dehradun |
| 05:52 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 23.0�C (8:30 AM IST on August 25, 2010). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.63 in 1003 hPa. |
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| 06:57 | kf | morning #koha |
| 06:57 | brendan | heya kf |
| 06:58 | kf | morning brendan :) |
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| 07:03 | kf | morning hdl |
| 07:03 | hdl | hi kf |
| 07:09 | brendan | heya hdl |
| 07:10 | hdl | hi brendan.. |
| 07:10 | are you in a European timezone ? | |
| 07:10 | brendan | nope just up late |
| 07:10 | MARC is keeping me awake | |
| 07:11 | hdl | ah.... |
| 07:11 | MARC ... | |
| 07:13 | kf | brendan: I hope it's not MARC nightmares that keep you awake |
| 07:13 | brendan | not too bad |
| 07:13 | at least yet | |
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| 07:16 | hdl | MARC and the rise of the dead.... loook It is still moving its toes :D |
| 07:16 | brendan | heh |
| 07:17 | hdl | (It has been claimed dead for ages now... librarians, please, please, do kill him) :D |
| 07:18 | kf | marc-must-die.info |
| 07:18 | hdl: wrote back to paul right now, booked at travelodge | |
| 07:19 | hdl | kf: thanks |
| 07:23 | kf | hdl: no problem :) |
| 07:24 | brendan | alright - night all - I think I've killed him - good and dead for tonight |
| 07:25 | have a great day all :) | |
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| 07:42 | chris | evening |
| 07:42 | kf | hi chris :) |
| 07:44 | fredericd | good morning all |
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| 07:47 | kf | hi fredercd and larsw |
| 07:47 | #koha is waking up :) | |
| 07:47 | larsw | hola |
| 07:47 | chris | heya larsw :) |
| 07:48 | an fredericd | |
| 07:48 | larsw: did you see http://passthesource.org.nz/20[…]/cloudy-horizons/ | |
| 07:48 | larsw | chris, nope, I've been too busy having birds sit on me, still catching up with the Internet |
| 07:50 | chris | heh |
| 07:50 | so i see | |
| 07:50 | what type of birds? | |
| 07:54 | kf | larsw: I thought this was only happening to the princesses in disney movies :) |
| 07:55 | larsw | chris, some kind of parrot and some kind of pidgeon, both native to NZ |
| 07:56 | (I leave identification of birds to my SO :) | |
| 07:56 | slef | chris: my main complaints with qmail was user-unfriendliness, combined with a licence for ages that hindered fixes for that. If it was just a silly licence, it wouldn't have been quite so annoying ;-) |
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| 07:57 | slef | larsw: so I saw. What's with that? Your head feel like it's full of birdseed after a flight again? |
| 07:59 | chris | larsw: im guessing a kereru and a kea (or maybe kaka) |
| 07:59 | slef | anyone know if I reply to an email From: bugzilla-daemon, will it appear in the bug? |
| 07:59 | larsw | chris, those sound like good guesses |
| 08:00 | chris | the koha bugzilla? i dont think so |
| 08:00 | but there is an email address you can mail | |
| 08:00 | lemme find out | |
| 08:02 | kf | http://richardsayers.com.au/20[…]-thought-leaders/ |
| 08:03 | chris | bug-submit |
| 08:03 | slef | |
| 08:04 | slef | the koha bugzilla... no, it's a reply to a comment... I'll use the web when I'm out of my inbox then |
| 08:05 | chris | i could maybe try and make a .procmailrc for that address too |
| 08:05 | but id probably screw it up | |
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| 08:06 | chris | hi magnus |
| 08:06 | magnus | hiya chris, kf & #koha |
| 08:07 | slef | .procmailrc is so 1990s... aren't you using Sieve yet? (although I can't remember if Sieve can pipe OTTOMH :-D ) |
| 08:08 | kf | morning magnus |
| 08:08 | chris | slef: i only barely understand procmail, my brain is too full to try and cram more in there |
| 08:10 | and i fixed the index page of the kohacon site | |
| 08:11 | slef | fixed as in clarified the 28th? |
| 08:11 | chris | also, the trip to levin keeps getting better, the marae want to do a full powhiri, complete with wero, and a hangi for dinner |
| 08:11 | yup | |
| 08:13 | http://www.korero.maori.nz/for[…]cols/powhiri.html | |
| 08:13 | magnus | chris: wow, that sounds... completely... translateable? ;-) |
| 08:14 | "Koha – a gift, generally an envelope of money" ;-) | |
| 08:15 | kf | magnus: google helps :) |
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| 08:17 | chris | magnus: part of the cost for the trip is for the koha (the rest for the bus) |
| 08:18 | magnus | sounds good |
| 08:18 | chris | most people in nz will never have a wero performed for them, it usually is for visiting dignatories and heads of state etc, so we are pretty privileged |
| 08:20 | slef | magnus: hadn't you told booklovers about the road trip? I'm getting questions... |
| 08:22 | magnus | slef: huh? i told her i will be arriving on the sunday, but i'm not sure when |
| 08:23 | slef | yeah, I wrote that I wasn't sure when because I was arriving on the koha road trip and got "what's that?" sort of questions back :-D |
| 08:23 | kf | does koha support unAPI and CoINS? |
| 08:23 | * kf | writing text for our flyer |
| 08:23 | slef | kf: I think it does CoINS if the templates used are OK. I don't remember what unAPI is. |
| 08:24 | kf | I think unApi has more information and is used for zotero |
| 08:24 | chris | well it works with zotero |
| 08:25 | kf | yes, with coins it works too |
| 08:25 | slef | I thought it was CoINS that made it work with zotero |
| 08:25 | kf | I think zotero can use both, as other services can |
| 08:25 | wajasu | ok. i see the reason for my Series: field in the XSLTDetails biblio having no data showing is because the XSLT rule is only for @ind=0 and my example record has @ind=1. Should the rule handle both types? either 0 or 1? |
| 08:25 | slef | kf: could search manual and archives for for unAPI |
| 08:26 | wajasu: depends what @ind means :) | |
| 08:26 | kf | slef: yes, but it's both there, I wanted to know what is actually working now :) |
| 08:26 | magnus | kf: there is support for unAPI. have a look at the source for record-page in the OPAC: <link rel="unapi-server" type="application/xml" title="unAPI" href="http://demo.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/unapi" /> |
| 08:26 | wajasu | serries tracing |
| 08:26 | kf | wajasu: there was already a patch sent for that problem |
| 08:26 | wajasu: I tested it | |
| 08:27 | wajasu | so i should just git pull again. |
| 08:27 | kf | magnus: yeah, but my browser shows me coins is used for zotero (tool tip of icon in url field) |
| 08:27 | wajasu: I think it has not been pushed yet | |
| 08:28 | bug 2794 | |
| 08:28 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2794 normal, P3, ---, chris, RESOLVED FIXED, Browse Shelf doesn't work with ISBN containing '-' |
| 08:28 | kf | ah sorry, bug 2704 |
| 08:28 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2704 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, 440 Display Issues |
| 08:28 | kf | the second |
| 08:28 | magnus | kf: HEAD gives a good reply to http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/unapi, but older versions don't... |
| 08:29 | kf | ok, the installation I was testing is a bit behidn current head |
| 08:30 | magnus | kf: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]743479a0d3fe45f89 |
| 08:32 | kf | thx magnus! |
| 08:32 | magnus | kf: here's a live example: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]r:2&format=oai_dc |
| 08:33 | kf: the format parameter can be any of these: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/unapi (guess that was a bit more info than what you actually wanted... ;-) | |
| 08:34 | kf | yep, just figured out |
| 08:34 | cool! | |
| 08:34 | wajasu | kf: thanks. |
| 08:34 | magnus | slef: i just said i didn't know when i would be there, not why... |
| 08:34 | kf | is there a way to get the availability information as xml too? |
| 08:35 | we talked about an API to check availability for ILL requests | |
| 08:36 | wajasu | would anyone here know if the Literary Form: should be "not fiction" or "non fiction" ? Is a cataloguer here? |
| 08:36 | kf | non fiction |
| 08:36 | magnus | kf: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]ruary/022607.html |
| 08:36 | kf | wajasu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fiction |
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| 08:37 | slef | magnus: heheh |
| 08:37 | kf | and I think the terms used are from MARC21 |
| 08:37 | magnus | kf: ils-di has a call called GetAvailability: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]b=GetAvailability |
| 08:37 | slef | munin: MARC21? |
| 08:37 | munin | slef: Error: "MARC21?" is not a valid command. |
| 08:37 | slef | munin: what is MARC21 |
| 08:37 | munin | slef: Error: "what" is not a valid command. |
| 08:37 | slef | munin: you suck |
| 08:37 | munin | slef: Error: "you" is not a valid command. |
| 08:38 | slef | anyway, look it up at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ |
| 08:38 | often MARC21 isn't that specific about terms | |
| 08:39 | kf | wajasu: hm looking at marc 21 perhaps I was wrong: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008b.html |
| 08:39 | slef: @marc 008 | |
| 08:40 | chris | @marc 008 |
| 08:40 | munin | chris: This field contains 40 character positions (00-39) that provide coded information about the record as a whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being cataloged. These coded data elements are potentially useful for retrieval and data management purposes. [] |
| 08:40 | kf | magnus: yes we were thinking about ils-di too - but available in library is not always the same as available for ill |
| 08:41 | magnus | kf: sure! |
| 08:41 | kf | so perhaps parsing marcxml is another way to go... hm! |
| 08:41 | magnus: thx for the links, this is really great to know | |
| 08:42 | magnus | kf: np |
| 08:42 | wajasu | so "Not fiction" seems to be standard then. thx kf. |
| 08:44 | slef | I've been looking at that and |
| 08:44 | @marc 040 | |
| 08:44 | munin | slef: The MARC code for or the name of the organization(s) that created the original bibliographic record, assigned MARC content designation and transcribed the record into machine-readable form, or modified (except for the addition of holdings symbols) an existing MARC record. These data and the code in 008/39 (Cataloging source) specify the parties responsible for the bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,6,8] |
| 08:44 | slef | recently, to see if openbibliography can figure out anything about the licensing of a record. |
| 08:45 | kf | magnus: ils-di looks good to me, but it would be even more useful if id_type could be marc 001 too |
| 08:45 | slef | Which reminds me: does/should Koha update a field in 040 with the library's MARC code when a record is edited? |
| 08:45 | kf | slef: I am not sure, we import them with 040 set |
| 08:47 | chris | its a compulsory field in the default framework, so unless you change that koha will force you to put a value in |
| 08:47 | kf | slef: no, only 003 with sys pref MarcORGCode and koha does not generate an id |
| 08:48 | chris | but you can type nonsense in |
| 08:48 | and looking at a lot of records, thats what ppl have done :) | |
| 08:48 | kf | I am grateful that our union catalog takes care of such things, not so much nonsense in our data |
| 08:50 | magnus | kf: it's just the biblionumber or or the biblioitemnumber? |
| 08:51 | kf | magnus: yes |
| 08:51 | if I understand the documentation correctly | |
| 08:52 | our ill system does not have those | |
| 08:52 | magnus | kf: ok, i hadn't thought about that... shouldn't be too hard to do marc 001 too? |
| 08:52 | * magnus | put in an enhancement bug for it? |
| 08:53 | kf | magnus: not sure how it works, but hope it's not too hard to do |
| 08:53 | magnus: good idea, I will make a note to do that, but perhaps look at all ils-di functions first | |
| 08:55 | looking at GetRecords - what is id (Required) list of system record identifiers? | |
| 08:59 | slef | looking at GetRecords where? |
| 09:03 | kf | http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]e&verb=GetRecords |
| 09:04 | sorry magnus to use your url, but my installation is behind a firewall | |
| 09:04 | magnus | kf: np, be my guest! |
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| 09:08 | CGI429 | hii |
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| 09:10 | magnus | kf: i *think* id = biblionumber |
| 09:12 | kf | perhaps |
| 09:13 | quite possible | |
| 09:13 | magnus | kf: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]s.pm;hb=HEAD#l145 "Given a list of biblionumbers, returns a list of record objects that contain bibliographic information" |
| 09:13 | kf | ah ok |
| 09:14 | perhaps doc should look similar to getAvailability then | |
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| 09:15 | magnus | (it seems odd that id_type is used to specify "the metadata schema" for that call, but "type of record identifier" for GetAvailability...) |
| 09:15 | kf: yeah, it would probably be good if the doc was a bit more specific... | |
| 09:16 | kf | magnus: there is always room for improvement, but it's nice to have the doc in the opac |
| 09:17 | I think we will come back to ils-di soon | |
| 09:17 | magnus | kf: yup |
| 09:48 | wajasu | i can't remember. was there a migration from an old bugzilla. do i need to reregister or do the forgot password thing. |
| 09:57 | will create a new account. | |
| 10:15 | i found http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5057 that mentions the need to remove http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ncodingscratchpad from the INSTALL.ubuntu. Should I edit the bug to include INSTALL.fedora7 as well OR create a new big for it. | |
| 10:15 | munin | 04Bug 5057: enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Update koha INSTALL.ubuntu |
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| 10:35 | kf | chris: ? |
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| 11:02 | smustafa | Hi everyone |
| 11:03 | anyone available to help me with my zebra? | |
| 11:03 | For some reason I can't run rebuild_zebra.pl and I have a [DEV] configuration where my work is located in /var/www/koha-dev | |
| 11:03 | and the configuration files and such are located in /home/user/koha-dev | |
| 11:03 | The error I get is unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /var/www/koha-2010-08-04/C4/Context.pm line 307. | |
| 11:03 | after I did | |
| 11:03 | mistusermistuser-desktop:/var/www/koha-2010-08-04/misc/migration_tools$ sudo perl -I /var/www/koha-2010-08-04 rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r |
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| 11:04 | chris | export KOHA_CONF=/path/to/your/koha-conf.xml |
| 11:05 | is there are reason you are running rebuild_zebra.pl as root? | |
| 11:05 | smustafa | I don't know what do chris...honestly |
| 11:05 | how do I run it | |
| 11:05 | chris | what user is zebrasrv running as? |
| 11:06 | smustafa | Dear Chris, I have to go sighs...they are shutting down the Internet for maintenance. It is 3:18 PM my time that is why (We finish work at 3:00 PM) |
| 11:07 | will you be avialable tomorrow earlier on Chat so I can talk to you about this? | |
| 11:07 | chris | maybe, its 11.17pm here |
| 11:07 | smustafa | ok ok that is fine |
| 11:07 | I hope to talk to you then... | |
| 11:07 | bye for now :) | |
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| 11:26 | * slef | squelches |
| 11:26 | slef | @wunder weston-super-mare |
| 11:26 | munin | slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 13.1�C (12:36 PM BST on August 25, 2010). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 12.0�C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:39 | * magnus | basks in the sun |
| 11:42 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:42 | munin | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.5�C (1:52 PM CEST on August 25, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:43 | magnus | @wunder bodo |
| 11:43 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0�C (1:20 PM CEST on August 25, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 2.0�C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). |
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| 11:46 | Amit | @wunder bangalore |
| 11:46 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 22.0�C (2:30 PM IST on August 25, 2010). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 21.0�C. |
| 11:49 | hdl | hi amit |
| 11:49 | hi amit | |
| 11:49 | Amit | hi hdl |
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| 12:00 | kf | hi Amit |
| 12:01 | hmpf. one of my libraries deleted my favourite example for enhanced content :( | |
| 12:01 | it had review, cover and other editions | |
| 12:02 | oh and similar titles | |
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| 12:18 | owen | Hi #koha |
| 12:22 | magnus | hiya owen |
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| 13:20 | jcamins_a | Good morning, #koha |
| 13:23 | magnus | g'day jcamins_a |
| 13:23 | jcamins_a | david: often /nick jcamins |
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| 13:23 | jcamins_a | Sorry about that. |
| 13:23 | jcamins_a is now known as jcamins | |
| 13:23 | jcamins | That's what I get for getting distracted in the middle of saying something on another channel. |
| 13:26 | kf: if you're around, the answer to your earlier question is that Koha kind of supports COiNS. | |
| 13:26 | wajasu | explores using puppet for configure koha, then installs/updates on various distributions, etc could be checked in and shared. |
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| 13:50 | magnus | wajasu: cool! |
| 13:53 | wajasu | if i code all that metadta that is in the makefile install and INSTALL.* and how to get and build packages for the perlmodules with version and dependency management, it might be a push button excercise to deploy and update koha. OpenQRM has puppet integration, so we can deploy in the cloud or lxc-containers. and developers can deploy for testing. |
| 13:57 | magnus | wajasu: wouldn't it be possible to use puppet anywhere? |
| 13:57 | wajasu | yes. |
| 14:00 | magnus | cool, i have heard a lot about puppet, but havn't had time to look into it yet. sounds like a lot of work initially, though? |
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| 14:04 | wajasu | i wrote a bash script and package for archlinux and deployed to a lxc-container. but if i did it with puppet, and we checked it in git to be shared, only the different dependencies for debian, ubuntu, etc would need tweeking. Plus it would be a common language to communicate what is intended. |
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| 14:24 | wizzyrea | there hasn't been a change to mainline where due and predue notices are added to the overdues email |
| 14:24 | right? | |
| 14:24 | owen | Hi wizzyrea |
| 14:24 | wizzyrea | hey owen :) |
| 14:26 | aarkerio | hi! I'm trying to import some record after Z39.50 search, but item options are not displayed properly: |
| 14:26 | http://mononeurona.org/img/img[…]aarkerio_2053.png | |
| 14:26 | owen | aarkerio: Have you configured your authorised values for things like "withdrawn," "lost," etc.? |
| 14:29 | aarkerio | mmm, no, there is a "default" structure values can I import? |
| 14:29 | owen | There is. The web installer should have offered to install some defaults for you. |
| 14:30 | installer/data/mysql/en/optional/auth_val.sql (for the English version) | |
| 14:31 | aarkerio | perfect! I will import the tables, thx a lot! |
| 14:32 | owen | installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_itemtypes.sql if you want some default item types |
| 14:32 | aarkerio | ok! |
| 14:33 | * wizzyrea | has noted that it's a lot easier to deal with a brand new koha if you import many of the default values. |
| 14:33 | wizzyrea | we really ought to force more of those in I think |
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| 14:44 | aarkerio | there is some .sql file with "Authorized values Asort1" samples? |
| 14:46 | owen | No |
| 14:46 | aarkerio | some wiki page? |
| 14:47 | owen | Not that I know of. You can safely ignore it. |
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| 14:56 | aarkerio | but why I can not see the options like "Withdrawn status" in "Add item" screen: http://mononeurona.org/img/img[…]aarkerio_2053.png |
| 14:57 | kf | aarkerio: have you chosen to import them during install? |
| 14:57 | aarkerio | yes |
| 14:57 | kf | check your authorized values for LOST |
| 14:58 | if the values are nto there, they can not be displayed | |
| 14:58 | NOTFORLOAN, LOC, CCODE, LOST, WITHDRAWN | |
| 14:58 | aarkerio | in "Authorized values for category Asort1" are no values |
| 14:59 | kf | check the categories I listed for you |
| 14:59 | asort is always empty, it's a custom field for acquisitions | |
| 14:59 | aarkerio | in "Basic parameters > Authorized values" screen? |
| 15:00 | kf | yes |
| 15:01 | if you have no categories for LOST etc. they were not imported during install | |
| 15:01 | but you can create them | |
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| 15:11 | Danke | How do i go about cataloging children's toys? I'm guessing the z39.50 client won't be helpful there |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 15:12 | we have a collection of cake pans in our collection | |
| 15:12 | maybe it would be similar? | |
| 15:12 | let me find you an example record for that | |
| 15:12 | Danke | sounds like it would be :) |
| 15:12 | kf | hallo Danke |
| 15:12 | Danke | hello |
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| 15:12 | kf | where are you from? |
| 15:12 | Danke | i've created an item type, do i create a marc framework for them too? |
| 15:13 | kf | I wonder because your name means thank you in German :) |
| 15:13 | Danke | yep, a happy accident in my real name i noticed one day |
| 15:13 | i'm from england | |
| 15:13 | paul_p | (& kf is german, as her nick don't say ;-) ) |
| 15:13 | Danke | ahh... unfortunately, i'm not |
| 15:14 | owen | Danke: You would only create a MARC framework if you were going to catalog a lot of them and the existing frameworks didn't work well for you |
| 15:15 | Creating a new framework is tedious, so don't undertake it lightly | |
| 15:15 | Danke | ah, i see. i'd like to simplify the cataloging as much as humanly possible... the users are mostly techophobes |
| 15:16 | kf | :) |
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| 15:17 | Danke | when i go to add a new record in the cataloging section, i barely understand what i'm being asked for |
| 15:18 | Phil | Hi... is this the right place to ask a general question about koha ? |
| 15:18 | sekjal | Phil: sure is. what can we help you with? |
| 15:19 | slef | hi Danke - are you in England as well as from it? |
| 15:20 | kf: my nickname means spit in Icelandic or some other language. | |
| 15:20 | Danke | yep, the south west |
| 15:20 | slef | kf: but it's actually a ytpo of self. |
| 15:20 | Danke: greetings from Somerset! | |
| 15:20 | Danke | ah, hello all the way from devon! haha |
| 15:21 | Phil | can koha be used by roaming librarians ?... i mean can you take your own copy of the database with you... lend some books, come back and synchronize with the main database ? |
| 15:21 | slef | Phil: you'd be better off using the offline client I suspect |
| 15:21 | and that's not something I know well... kyle is the nick to talk to here | |
| 15:21 | but he's not here right now (US time I think) | |
| 15:21 | Phil | k |
| 15:21 | slef | anyone else know offline? |
| 15:22 | owen | There's a bug report saying the Firefox plugin doesn't work. I don't know beyond that. |
| 15:22 | sekjal | http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]line-circulation/ |
| 15:22 | Phil | is there documentation about it ? |
| 15:22 | oh thank you ! | |
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| 15:22 | wajasu | the XSLTDetails doesn't have the "Published by:" publisher as a link as the non XSLT code does. Shall I add a bug? |
| 15:22 | slef | rhcl The Next Generation? |
| 15:22 | owen | Unfortunately http://millruntech.com/koha/ko[…]fline-circulation |
| 15:23 | Not unfortunately. That's a typo :) | |
| 15:23 | slef | That's one heck of a big typo. |
| 15:24 | Danke: add yourself to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Worldwide#Europe when you feel confident enough ;-) | |
| 15:24 | sekjal | Phil: there are actually two different offline circ tools: Kyle's (which we've linked) and Kivutar's Firefox extension (which seems broken at the moment) |
| 15:24 | Phil | k |
| 15:24 | Danke | slef, will do :) |
| 15:25 | sekjal | we have a data standard for Offline Circ information, so new modules can always be written |
| 15:27 | Phil | that's very interesting ... thank you very much ! |
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| 15:36 | Phil | the KOC is only available in 32 bits ? |
| 15:36 | do you think I can still install it on a 64 bits system ? | |
| 15:43 | nevermind... ill find a workaround | |
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| 15:56 | wizzyrea | hmm |
| 15:56 | that's interesting | |
| 15:56 | i'm looking at the sysprefs on current HEAD | |
| 15:56 | and I clicked on "Local Use" | |
| 15:56 | then I tried to click any other tab | |
| 15:56 | and it gave this: Software error: | |
| 15:56 | Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/YAML/Syck.pm line 72. | |
| 15:56 | but if you are on any tab besides local use | |
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| 15:57 | wizzyrea | and you click on any tab except Local Use, it works fine to click between them |
| 15:57 | jcamins | It works for me. |
| 15:57 | wizzyrea | weird, ok, thank you for checking |
| 15:57 | it's just me :) | |
| 15:58 | slef | someone has broken your koha while you slept |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 15:58 | I have a sense | |
| 15:58 | actually | |
| 15:58 | that it may be my data. | |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Actually, I may be a few commits behind HEAD. |
| 15:58 | Nope, I'm not. | |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | ok |
| 15:59 | jcamins | |
| 15:59 | switch from localuse to Cataloging | |
| 15:59 | can you do that? | |
| 15:59 | jcamins | Ooh, no, that one's broken. |
| 15:59 | I tested OPAC and Administration earlier. | |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea | ok whew, now I don't feel so nuts |
| 16:00 | jcamins | Everything except for Cataloging works. |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | cataloging works as long as you don't switch from local use |
| 16:01 | at least for me | |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Yeah, for me too. |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | ok I'll report that then |
| 16:01 | jcamins | I meant, switching from Local Use, everything except for cataloging works. |
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| 16:25 | sekjal | does anyone know a quick way to rebuild the marcxml field in biblioitems from the marc? I have 11 records out of sync |
| 16:28 | slef | sekjal: I'll sell you my marc21xml.pl ;-) |
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| 16:30 | slef | that's not particularly quick, actually, because you have to save the marc fields to a file, convert them, then load them back into marcxml |
| 16:30 | oh wait | |
| 16:31 | sekjal: does it have to be rebuilt from the MARC and not the db records? | |
| 16:31 | if db records ok, quickest way right now is to do a no-change edit on the record in cataloguing | |
| 16:31 | that provokes both marc and marcxml to be rebuilt IIRC | |
| 16:32 | sekjal | can't get to the cataloguing editor; records won't load because the MARCXML is bad |
| 16:32 | slef | wow |
| 16:32 | jcamins | sekjal: export the records, then reimport? |
| 16:33 | sekjal | records won't export, since the .mrc is generated from biblioitems.marcxml |
| 16:33 | slef | I can give you this script, but it needs work to operate directly on the database fields. |
| 16:33 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 16:33 | Hm. | |
| 16:34 | sekjal | slef: if you don't mind, I'd take a look at it. It might give me a better place to start |
| 16:36 | jcamins | SELECT biblioitems.marc TO OUTFILE `example.mrc` (or whatever the proper syntax is), make sure the 999$c is there, then reimport, enabling overlay? |
| 16:36 | slef | sekjal: where do you want it? |
| 16:37 | sekjal | slef: ian.wallsbywatersolutions.com will work |
| 16:37 | jcamins: hmm... that could do it | |
| 16:37 | 999c does seem to be in there | |
| 16:38 | jcamins | You may need to create a new matching rule. I don't quite remember. |
| 16:39 | (one that matches 999c to the biblionumber index) | |
| 16:39 | slef | sekjal: on its way |
| 16:40 | sekjal | slef: got it, thanks! |
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| 16:48 | slef | sekjal: alternative approach would be to C4::Biblio::ModBiblioMarc(a copy of C4::Biblio::GetMarcBiblio that uses the marc field instead of the marcxml one) |
| 16:50 | rhcl_tng | it appears that currently there is no way to set a maxlogsize for things like Letterlog, BorrowersLog, CataloguingLog --is there generally no problem with logs getting too large? Would it be nice to have an option to set a maxlogsize on the System Preferences -> Logging Preferences page? |
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| 16:52 | slef | sekjal: or actually something more like $dbh = C4::Context->dbh; $sth = $dbh->prepare("SELECT marc FROM biblioitems WHERE biblionumber = N"); $sth->execute(); C4::Biblio::ModBiblioMarc($sth->fetchrow()); |
| 16:52 | rhcl_tng: no, it's the wrong place to set it. Configure logrotate. | |
| 16:52 | rhcl_tng | pk, tnx |
| 16:52 | ok i mean | |
| 16:53 | slef | (what would koha do when it hit maxlogsize anyway?) |
| 16:53 | rhcl_tng | terminate at a size or date point? |
| 16:53 | slef | oof! |
| 16:53 | :) | |
| 16:53 | rhcl_tng | expunge beginning at a size or date point is probably better wording |
| 16:54 | jcamins | slef: but isn't the log stored in the database? |
| 16:54 | sekjal | slef: got to get the corrupted fields out first... hang on... trying something |
| 16:54 | slef | jcamins: ah. If it's those ones, there's a script which truncates, isn't there? |
| 16:54 | rhcl_tng | I was assuming it was just a flat file somewhere, like system logs |
| 16:55 | slef | some things are in database, some are in files |
| 16:55 | jcamins | Probably. I've never felt the need to truncate the log, I was just asking for clarification. ;) |
| 16:55 | slef | misc/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl |
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| 16:56 | jcamins | Cool. Thanks. |
| 16:56 | slef | np |
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| 17:31 | sekjal | in hindsight, it's easier to just skip the corrupted records for now, and deal with them if they come up in later scripts. that way I can keep moving forward with the day's work |
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| 18:00 | owen | Wouldn't it be nice if all these people who want to install Koha 2 on Windows would support each other for a change? |
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| 18:20 | briceSanc | Have you ever had encoding problems when importing Marc21 authorities ? My accent looks like that before import: {grave}e to �. |
| 18:21 | and they looks like that after import : e' | |
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| 18:41 | cait | hi all |
| 18:42 | owen | Hi cait |
| 18:42 | jwagner | Hi cait |
| 18:42 | cait | hi owen, hi jwagner :) |
| 18:43 | jwagner | Hey owen, FYI -- when I was asking the other day about stylesheets for the multiple URL setup? It does just need the equiv of the opaccolorstylesheet, not the full opac.css. |
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| 18:43 | * jwagner | is working on 16 interfaces -- shuffling stylesheets like mad.... |
| 18:44 | owen | 16 in one organization? |
| 18:44 | jwagner | Yep. |
| 18:44 | And that's not all their libraries, just the ones they wanted to do at this time. | |
| 18:44 | owen | It would have been easier to tell them, "Sorry, can't do that!" |
| 18:44 | jwagner | Those words aren't in our vocabulary :-) |
| 18:45 | * jwagner | admits certain OTHER words are in my personal vocabulary during projects like this.... |
| 18:46 | jcamins | cait: if you have a moment for a German question, should all the words in the title "Historisch-Emblematischer Medaillen-Kaste" be capitalized? |
| 18:49 | cait | oh |
| 18:49 | I dont really understand it | |
| 18:49 | can you show me the title? | |
| 18:50 | Kasten perhaps? | |
| 18:50 | jcamins | Neither do I. I'll find the Worldcat record. |
| 18:50 | Ooh, perhaps I mistyped it. | |
| 18:50 | Maybe that wiggly thing is supposed to mean there's an 'n' at the end. | |
| 18:51 | http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/256705940 | |
| 18:53 | cait | ok, that's old |
| 18:53 | jcamins | Yes. Oh, sorry, I should've mentioned that. |
| 18:53 | cait | no problem |
| 18:53 | I think kasten makes more sense | |
| 18:53 | it means box | |
| 18:54 | a box with medals and explanation of them? | |
| 18:55 | jcamins | Yeah, it's a book about medals to do with the Dutch Wars of Independence. |
| 18:56 | cait | not sure what marc21 says, but I think you can use the way it's written on the book? |
| 18:56 | hmpf | |
| 18:56 | jcamins | Everything's in capital letters. |
| 18:56 | cait | and it's even one of our records |
| 18:57 | http://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.1/PPNSET?PPN=031821863 | |
| 18:58 | jcamins | Oh, that says that emblematischer doesn't need to be capitalized. Thanks! |
| 18:59 | cait | would have been my guess too |
| 18:59 | but not sure about the rules here :) | |
| 19:00 | jared: http://content.no-ip.org/Stuff/1278623146661.jpg and I have no microwave... | |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Aww, that's adorable! |
| 19:01 | But you said you had a teeny oven, right? | |
| 19:01 | cait | right :) |
| 19:02 | jcamins | That's so cute I may have to make those, even though there are enough people to eat a cake. |
| 19:03 | cait | tell me if it works :) |
| 19:03 | jcamins | And I could always give excess cake to my parents and brothers when they come to visit for the wedding tomorrow. |
| 19:03 | Hm. | |
| 19:03 | cait | but my twitter contact said it did |
| 19:03 | jcamins | Maybe I should just make a proper cake. |
| 19:03 | cait | a wedding? |
| 19:03 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 19:03 | Oh, right. | |
| 19:03 | I'm getting married tomorrow. | |
| 19:04 | cait | oh, congratulation :) |
| 19:04 | larsw | jcamins, congratulations! |
| 19:04 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 19:04 | jwagner | Congrats! |
| 19:04 | chris | congrats jcamins :) |
| 19:04 | cait | and you are spending the evening before your wedding with cataloging real old German books? |
| 19:04 | jwagner | Now THAT'S a bachelor party! |
| 19:04 | jcamins | It's only 15:15. |
| 19:04 | But, yes. | |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | !! jcamins! |
| 19:05 | congratulations! | |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Thank you all. |
| 19:05 | Apparently I forgot to tell, well, anyone in the end-of-semester rush last spring, and then I forgot that I hadn't told anyone. | |
| 19:06 | jwagner | On the bright side, that keeps the stress level down, I'd think. |
| 19:06 | jcamins | True. |
| 19:10 | sekjal | whoa, just came back in to jcamin's news. Congratulations!! |
| 19:10 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 19:12 | cait: if it makes you feel any better about my sense of priorities, I just came across a _beautiful_ Thou binding with a 3-color manuscript from, probably, the fifteenth or sixteenth century used as binder's waste. :) | |
| 19:13 | cait | jcamins: you are really one of us :) |
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| 19:13 | cait | one of us crazy librarians :) |
| 19:15 | jcamins | No doubt about it. |
| 19:15 | Wait, is today Wednesday? Okay, day after tomorrow. | |
| 19:16 | I hope the patron who I told we were open Wednesday didn't come in to the ANS. | |
| 19:16 | (just checked my e-mail) | |
| 19:16 | cait | jcamins: I am checking our big union catalogs for your title right now - at the moment it's 2:1 for Emblematisch ;) |
| 19:17 | jcamins | There may be multiple editions of it, although probably not. |
| 19:18 | Or at least multiple issues (same text, different title page). :) | |
| 19:21 | cait | yep |
| 19:22 | http://www.ubka.uni-karlsruhe.[…]k/kvk/kvk_en.html good for research | |
| 19:22 | can't post you the link to the search result, it's too long for my link shortener | |
| 19:23 | jcamins | I can do the search. |
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| 19:24 | chris | hi LBA |
| 19:24 | cait | check the column Germany and it will search all the big union catalogs |
| 19:25 | jcamins | Ooh, why didn't I check VD17? |
| 19:26 | LBA | hey Chris! |
| 19:26 | cait | not sure, but got no results there |
| 19:26 | jcamins | When you search VD17 directly, it lists two issues. |
| 19:26 | cait | oh, perhaps I had a timeout earlier |
| 19:28 | oh, they even have a picute | |
| 19:28 | picture | |
| 19:30 | hard to read the old script | |
| 19:30 | chris | right bus time |
| 19:30 | bbiab | |
| 19:33 | cait | owen++ |
| 19:48 | chris | Back |
| 19:50 | cait | wb chris |
| 19:50 | jcamins | Welcome back. |
| 19:50 | sekjal | anyone here happen to be an Xen expert? |
| 19:51 | jcamins | I am not, but I can relay your questions to one of my other IRC channels where there are people who know about Xen. |
| 19:51 | chris | I've used it, far from expert tho |
| 19:52 | sekjal | I think I have a server that's choking Xen, and throwing it into a reboot loop. I need to figure out how to a) disable that server on boot, and b) somehow get into it in a safe way to find the problem |
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| 19:53 | sekjal | this is only vaguely Koha related, but I figured I'd ask here first, since you all are my favourite channel :) |
| 19:54 | cait | aaw :) |
| 19:56 | chris | The xm commands |
| 19:56 | No man on my phone but off the top of my head xm disable | |
| 19:58 | sekjal | I'm going to give it a go |
| 19:59 | to make matters more fun: I have to do this over the phone to someone, who has not gotten used to the Dvorak keyboard that's attached to the terminal they have to use | |
| 19:59 | chris | nice |
| 20:01 | Ok my stop bbiab | |
| 20:04 | owen | Ok my quitting time bbi16hours |
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| 20:05 | cait | bbi8hours - good night all |
| 20:05 | :) | |
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| 20:19 | chris | back |
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| 20:20 | richard | hi |
| 20:21 | chris | hiya richard |
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| 20:54 | richard | hey chris |
| 20:55 | * richard | a bit slow off the mark today :) |
| 20:55 | chris | :) i blame the weather |
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| 21:07 | anitsirk | darling & melia: will be u in a sec. |
| 21:07 | chris | wrong #koha anitsirk :) |
| 21:08 | anitsirk | oh no. sorry about that. |
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| 21:27 | moodaepo | @wunder 56001 |
| 21:27 | munin | moodaepo: The current temperature in MSU Physics Dept, Mankato, Minnesota is 21.3�C (4:38 PM CDT on August 25, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990.1 hPa (Rising). |
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| 21:52 | larsw | chris, robin: would you happen to know what the responsible way to get rid of batteries is in Wellington? |
| 21:52 | (sorry for the off-topicness) | |
| 21:53 | chris | hmm good question |
| 21:53 | i dont, richard do you? | |
| 21:54 | richard | is exide still going in petone |
| 21:54 | larsw | AA and AAA batteries, that is, not laptop or car batteries |
| 21:54 | richard | last year there was a stink about them pumping lead into the air from their car battery recycling operateions |
| 21:54 | ah | |
| 21:55 | * richard | doesn't know of a nice way to get rid of those |
| 21:55 | richard | if you put them in the dump they end up leaching into the stream that runs by chris' place |
| 21:55 | larsw | they're toxic waste, so I'd like to do something reasonable |
| 21:56 | (as reasonable as is possible, given that I've given in and bought some) | |
| 22:01 | chilts | larsw: I took mine to the Telecom shop in Duke's Arcade!!! |
| 22:01 | you are lucky, it had taken me 4 years to find out what to do :) | |
| 22:01 | chris | you AA, and AAA batteries? |
| 22:01 | chilts | yep |
| 22:01 | chris | what do they do with them? throw them in my stream? :) |
| 22:01 | chilts | they take mobile phones and stuff, so I asked about batteries and they said yeah |
| 22:01 | larsw | chilts, I'll do that today, then, thanks! |
| 22:02 | chilts | chris: dunno, but then how can we check what anyone does with our rubbish |
| 22:02 | chris | yeah |
| 22:02 | chilts | I mean, there has to be some kind of trust somewhere |
| 22:02 | larsw | chris, you'll want to suggest to your MP that NZ get the same law as many European countries have: any store that sells batteries must accept used ones and make sure they get disposed of responsibly |
| 22:03 | chilts | larsw: that's a good idea |
| 22:03 | larsw | (that's a business opportunity for battery recyclers if anyone wants to figure out a way to fund Koha development ;) |
| 22:03 | jcamins | That's the law in NY, too. |
| 22:03 | larsw | jcamins, oh, that's right, I remember noticing that |
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| 22:28 | jcamins | Good night, #koha |
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| 22:57 | rhcl | We used to take our dry cell batteries to Lowe's (a large home improvement chain here in the US) but they stopped taking them. Nearly all batteries like that have been mercury free for a number of years, so they're not quite as bad to trash as before, but it would be nice to find someone who could do something better than that with them. |
| 23:09 | robin | yay, looks like the zebra fix will be getting an exception to the Debian freeze. |
| 23:11 | chris | sweet |
| 23:11 | robin | now just to wait until it gets into testing. |
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