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02:12 | chris_n | g'evening |
02:12 | chris | hiya chris_n |
02:12 | chris_n | how's monday going chris? |
02:12 | chris | so far so good |
02:13 | chris_n | this week is already becoming too short for my list |
02:14 | chris | that sounds like every week :) |
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03:23 | Amit | heya chris, brendan |
03:23 | @wounder Bangalore | |
03:23 | munin | Amit: Error: "wounder" is not a valid command. |
03:26 | Amit | @wunder New Delhi |
03:26 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 29.0�C (8:30 AM IST on August 16, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
03:26 | Amit | @wunder Dehradun |
03:26 | munin | Amit: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 24.0�C (5:30 AM IST on August 16, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.70 in 1006 hPa. |
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04:01 | cait | morning #koha |
04:01 | chrisc | hi cait |
04:01 | cait | hi chris |
04:13 | larsw | hi, ciat |
04:13 | er, cait | |
04:13 | typing's hard | |
04:13 | cait | hi lwars |
04:13 | larsw ;) | |
04:13 | larsw | :) |
04:13 | cait | I can say it's too early |
04:16 | and vacation was too short | |
04:17 | Amit | heya cait, chrisc |
04:17 | cait | hi amit |
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04:18 | larsw | hi, chris :) |
04:18 | chris | heya larsw and Amit |
04:19 | Amit | heya larsw |
04:19 | larsw | hi, Amit |
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04:52 | indradg_ | hi all... morning! |
04:55 | cait | time to go to work, bbl |
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05:01 | indradg_ | chris, around? |
05:02 | @wunder Kolkata | |
05:02 | munin | indradg_: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 33.0�C (10:20 AM IST on August 16, 2010). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
05:06 | indradg_ | Amit, morning |
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05:15 | Amit | heya indradg_ |
05:16 | indradg_ | Amit, have you used GoogleJackets? |
05:16 | Amit | yes |
05:19 | indradg_ | Amit, I ran into this issue yesterday - http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5138 |
05:19 | munin | 04Bug 5138: normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Erroneous display for OPACShelfBrowser with GoogleJackets enabled |
05:19 | indradg_ | any idea Amit ^^^ |
05:19 | Amit | wait |
05:19 | i have to see | |
05:19 | indradg_ | ok |
05:20 | Amit | indradg: same image of book on browse shelf |
05:26 | indradg_ | Amit, yes |
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05:27 | kf | back :) |
05:28 | Amit | heya kf |
05:29 | indradg_: hmm i have the same problem | |
05:29 | same book cover comes | |
05:30 | indradg_ | Amit, ok! so this is replicable issue.... that good! |
05:30 | Amit | yes |
05:31 | indradg_ | bugzilla has auto assigned owen... haven't seem him online yet |
05:31 | Amit | i have to check this on another version of koha |
05:32 | indradg_ | which version did you check against atm? |
05:32 | Amit | 3.0.6 |
05:35 | indradg_ | ok |
05:36 | Amit | indradg_: it's running fine on master branch |
05:36 | indradg_ | hmmmm |
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06:31 | magnus | g'day #koha |
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06:51 | kf | hi magnus |
06:51 | magnus | Guten Morgen, kf! |
06:51 | Amit | heya magnus |
06:51 | kf | :) |
06:51 | magnus | hi Amit |
06:51 | @wunder bodo, norway | |
06:51 | munin | magnus: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0�C (8:50 AM CEST on August 16, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 4.0�C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). |
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06:58 | * magnus | wonders if anyone knows how http://fpl.apkn.org/ works - do all the libraries use koha as their main system, or are records federated from other systems into a union catalogue? |
07:08 | indradg_ | magnus, do you have a koha 3.0.6 install around? |
07:10 | magnus | indradg_: sorry, i only have 3.01.00.061 and HEAD |
07:11 | indradg_ | magnus, ok! /me is running into bug 5138 |
07:11 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5138 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Erroneous display for OPACShelfBrowser with GoogleJackets enabled |
07:11 | magnus | hm, don't think i ever tried enabling Google Jackets... |
07:15 | indradg_ | magnus, the bug only comes up in the Shelf browser... not for one-on-one opac queries |
07:16 | magnus, being in India... imho Google jackets cover more items than Amazon (for books) | |
07:16 | magnus | cool |
07:17 | Amit | indradg: which version of koha r u using |
07:19 | indradg_ | Amit, 3.00.06.010 |
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11:43 | kf | monday-- |
11:43 | @karma monday | |
11:43 | munin | kf: Karma for "monday" has been increased 1 time and decreased 5 times for a total karma of -4. |
11:45 | jwagner | kf, I have thought for years that what we really need is a five-day weekend and a two-day workweek. But then Monday (or the equivalent) would be REALLY bad.... |
11:46 | paul_p | kf & jwagner : does it mean you're not happy to go to work every day ? I am, so, monday, tuesday or saturday, i'm happy either (as we is for my family, which I love too, of course) |
11:48 | kf | paul_p: I love my work too, but on mondays strange things tend to happen |
11:48 | suddenly appearing migration problems, not noticed for months (missing items) or such things | |
11:49 | jwagner | paul_p, I love my job, but I don't like Mondays.... |
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11:59 | * magnus | did "rm *" in the wrong directory earlier today... |
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12:02 | * jwagner | sends much sympathy to magnus -- been there, done that... |
12:02 | magnus | thanks! at least it wasn't "rm -r *" |
12:03 | and there is supposed to be a backup somewhere | |
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12:04 | jwagner | or at the root level |
12:04 | druthb | howdy, #koha. :) |
12:04 | owen | Hi everyone |
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12:17 | kf | hi druthb and owen :) |
12:19 | magnus | hiya druthb, owen et al |
12:21 | owen | Does anyone know what Jo meant when she said on the list "Chrome interface does not 'show' reserves when items are being checked in" |
12:21 | kf | perhaps that the message does not come up? |
12:21 | the message box | |
12:22 | never worked with chrome, but that's what I thought | |
12:22 | owen | It does |
12:22 | I guess I'll reply and ask | |
12:23 | kf | hm you never see if there are waiting reserves for the borrower (although this would be nice) and fines |
12:23 | i think you only see if items were overdue | |
12:23 | owen | ? |
12:23 | kf | but perhaps hlt has some more features |
12:23 | at check-in | |
12:24 | you don't see information about waiting reserves for the borrower or open fines, you have to open the account for that information | |
12:24 | so if the box shows I have no idea... just thinking loud. | |
12:24 | it's monday... | |
12:24 | * kf | goes and hides under her desk |
12:36 | * jwagner | joins kf |
12:37 | * druthb | joins kf and jwagner, and brings cookies. |
12:38 | magnus | can i come too? |
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12:40 | * jwagner | proposes a group Monday hideout |
12:42 | kf | cookies... *sighs happily* |
12:42 | * jwagner | will bring chocolate :-) |
12:42 | kf | magnus: we can use my coworkers desk too, enough room for 4 people |
12:42 | jwagner | We have a nice big table in our conference room -- plenty of space for hiding :-) |
12:42 | magnus | kf: cool! |
12:43 | jwagner: even better | |
12:43 | kf | lol |
12:46 | schuster | wish I could join you but have 2 presentations Wednesday that I must get done!! and our office is under renovation so generally people can't find me anyway! |
12:47 | magnus | schuster: good for you ;-) |
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12:57 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha |
13:03 | owen | Hi jcamins |
13:04 | kf | hi jcamins |
13:07 | magnus | g'day jcamins |
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13:28 | kf | jwagner: I have a library comlaining about bug 4385 - any news there? |
13:28 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4385 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, With XSLT on, results list doesn't show both hardcopy and URL availability |
13:28 | sekjal | kf: I've got a patch for that |
13:28 | just need to rebase it to the latest master (it's a few revisions back) | |
13:29 | kf | sekjal: you would make me really happy - in fact it's the third of our three libraries complaining about that ... |
13:29 | sekjal | kf: I'm doing some training today, but I'll have it ported over very soon. |
13:29 | kf | we have a lot of urls in the record, urls to covers, reviews and tocs |
13:30 | catalog enrichment from our union catalog | |
13:30 | sekjal: thx :) | |
13:30 | sekjal | I'm glad it's something other folks are interested in; I'd whipped it up as an XSLT customization, and wasn't sure it would be universal enough to fold into Koha |
13:32 | jwagner | kf, was off on another screen, just saw this. sekjal, how does your fix work? |
13:33 | The workaround I figured out was to put hardcopy & URL availability on separate lines | |
13:33 | sekjal | jwagner: as I recall, that's the way mine displays, as well |
13:33 | kf | sekjal: I am sure others are interested too. I think there are more libraries with links for catalog enrichment, not only online ressources |
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13:52 | greenmang | hello friends... http://zoom.z3950.org/bind/perl/ this site lists a perl binding for searching LoC online catalogue, can anybody tell me what does "@attr 1=7" means? |
13:54 | i just found that @attr 1=7 is used for ISBN number... but why 7 is used for ISBN or why 4 is used for Book Title or 1003 for Author name? is it a standard? where can I find it? | |
13:58 | magnus | greenmang: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html |
13:59 | greenmang: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/bib1.html | |
14:00 | one of those areas where library data gets really obscure... | |
14:05 | wasabi | nice magnus - i dont think ive every seen that BIB-1 doc before |
14:06 | magnus | i don't know how i would live without it... ;-) |
14:06 | greenmang | magnus: thanks a lot :) |
14:09 | wasabi | lol, the marc spec's are so crazy... - the 'identifiers' especially |
14:11 | magnus | yep, time to put a lot of this tech out of it's suffering and start using modern tools/formats etc! :-) |
14:11 | wasabi | cataloguing using them correctly, and coding to handle them correctly in the marc-editor is really difficult |
14:11 | yes please! | |
14:12 | someone described RDA to me recently, saying the final (and most difficult) part of the spec was incomplete... | |
14:14 | it sounded like the RDA-spec team still had doubts to whether the final part was even do-able | |
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14:15 | briceSanc | hi all ! |
14:15 | wasabi | (that's how it was explained to me - by an v. experienced cataloger ) |
14:20 | magnus | wasabi: RDA sounds like the worst kind of design-by-committee... |
14:20 | * magnus | signs off before blood preassure starts to rise... ;-) |
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15:04 | owen | Hi collum |
15:05 | collum | Hi owen |
15:10 | kf | hi collum |
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15:14 | collum | Good Morning, almost afternoon, kf. |
15:14 | kf | not almost :) |
15:14 | owen | Almost evening kf? :) |
15:15 | kf | yep |
15:15 | 5 pm | |
15:16 | 5:24 | |
15:16 | so time to leave and go home - bye all :) | |
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15:17 | owen | Another questionable "open source" label? http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=15003 |
15:19 | No mention that it's Windows-only. No mention of version control | |
15:19 | jcamins | Isn't gist the name of a Linux installer stack? |
15:21 | Also, aren't you not supposed to use CC for source code? | |
15:23 | Sorry, I was thinking of yast. | |
15:23 | briceSanc | what is the best Authorities script to import marc records : bulkauthimport.pl or bulkmarcimport.pl ? |
15:23 | for koha 3.2beta | |
15:25 | owen | jcamins: Did you see a reference to CC? |
15:26 | briceSanc: I think bulkmarcimport. I'm not sure bulkauthimport works if I remember correctly | |
15:26 | I've used bulkmarcimport to import authorities successfully | |
15:27 | briceSanc | and how you manage duplicates ? |
15:27 | owen | Sorry briceSanc, I've only run tests. I don't have experience with duplicates |
15:27 | briceSanc | ok |
15:27 | * owen | is not an actual authorities user, just plays one when testing |
15:28 | briceSanc | no problems |
15:28 | jcamins | owen: I downloaded the source. |
15:28 | owen | From where? |
15:28 | briceSanc | thank you |
15:28 | wasabi | GIST -> 'Access to your ILLiad web server (written on .net framework, so GIST will work for OCLC hosted sites)' |
15:28 | http://toolkit.idsproject.org/[…].php?id=wiki:gist | |
15:29 | or is that req. just for 'GIST for ILLiad Webpages' | |
15:29 | jcamins | Yep. That's where I downloaded it from. |
15:30 | wasabi | looks like GIST runs on win-fail.. :/ |
15:32 | ...and a current OCLC-iliad account? | |
15:34 | still looks interesting tho | |
15:35 | jcamins | wasabi: I'm not sure those two things can be counted against it too harshly. After all, if you are an ILLIAD customer who needs to do whatever it does on Windows, why should you be expected to develop something cross-platform. |
15:36 | wasabi | sure, i agree ;) |
15:36 | its worth looking at to see how someone else does an acq. workflow | |
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16:23 | OpenUser | Good Afternoon. "Checked out to" on the Holding screen. Does anyone know why this would dissappear when I upgrade Koha and how I might get it back? |
16:23 | Sorry,. in the STATUS row | |
16:23 | wizzyrea | perhaps there is a syspref? |
16:23 | OpenUser | I did try looking but can't see one! |
16:23 | wizzyrea | what did you upgrade to? |
16:23 | OpenUser | 3.06 |
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16:29 | cait | hi #koha |
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16:30 | OpenUser | hi |
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16:38 | owen | Hmm... interesting function name in the javascript calendar library we're using, "continuation_for_the_fucking_khtml_browser" |
16:40 | jcamins | Wow. |
16:40 | wizzyrea | lol! |
16:40 | nerd rage! | |
16:41 | owen | Who else but a nerd would get enraged so? :) |
16:43 | cfouts | I can't even type that without gritting my teeth in sympathy |
16:43 | cait | :) |
16:44 | * collum | now wants to do a recursive grep for dirty words |
16:44 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
16:46 | briceSanc | do you know if authorities are import in Koha-DB or Zebra-DB |
16:46 | ? | |
16:47 | JeremyLC | find . -type f -exec grep -Hi "#$%^" "{}" \; |
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16:49 | jcamins | briceSanc: Zebra extracts authority data from the Koha database. |
16:54 | briceSanc | jcamins, they take place in import_records table ? |
16:54 | jcamins | briceSanc: I've never tried importing authority records, so I'm not sure. |
16:55 | briceSanc | ok |
16:55 | ;) | |
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17:27 | indradg_ | owen, ping |
17:27 | owen | Hi |
17:27 | indradg_ | owen, saw your patch |
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17:28 | indradg_ | going to test it now |
17:43 | jcamins | Hm. I think this might be a bug. When I duplicate a 773 field, and try to add a subfield 'g' to the field I just created, it adds a subfield g to the original 773 field. |
17:48 | cait | it definitely sounds like a bug |
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18:02 | briceSanc | someone could help with the script bulkmarcimport.pl and the option -match ? |
18:04 | jcamins | briceSanc: I could not get -match to work for me. Probably you want to use the stage_biblios_file.pl and commit_biblios_file.pl scripts. |
18:05 | Unless you're still importing authorities, in which case I have no idea how to do it. | |
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18:09 | aarkerio | hi! how can add a new "admin" user ? |
18:10 | owen | Add a new patron and and change their permissions |
18:10 | aarkerio | I created a Personal->Staff user but I get Error: Unauthorized user |
18:10 | owen | The type of patron doesn't matter, only the permissions |
18:10 | briceSanc | jcamins, i still importing authorities and -match does work on my script. |
18:10 | aarkerio | there is no "Admin" patron? |
18:10 | briceSanc | si i continue to search... |
18:11 | jcamins | aarkerio: you have to set the permissions. |
18:12 | ebegin | aarkerio, do you have access to your installation directory? If so, look for <user> in the etc/koha-conf.xml file |
18:14 | the one in the <config> section is your admin username with the <pass> just after. | |
18:15 | You can use it to create your first account. And then, as jcamins suggest, create your own user with the superlibrarian permissions | |
18:15 | aarkerio | ebegin, No, I mean I want to create new accounts for library staff |
18:15 | I created "Admin" categorie but I can not found permission screen | |
18:16 | ebegin | More » Set Permissions |
18:16 | (in the user account) | |
18:17 | aarkerio, Got it? | |
18:18 | aarkerio | There is no "More->Set Permissions" option in More menu |
18:19 | owen | aarkerio: Do you have the patron's record open on the screen? |
18:20 | You're not looking for the "more" menu item at the very top of the page, but the "more" toolbar button which is alongside the "edit," "change password," etc. buttons | |
18:20 | aarkerio | I see "Patron Category Administration" and I created a new "Admin" catgory in "Personal" |
18:21 | owen | aarkerio: Forget about patron categories |
18:21 | Do a patron search for the patron you want to be an administrator | |
18:21 | Click that patron's name to view the record | |
18:21 | Then look for the "more" menu button in the button toolbar on that page | |
18:22 | ebegin | aarkerio, this will help you : http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x5732 |
18:24 | aarkerio | thanks for your help, but I wanna create an "Admin" rol and add the new users so the permissions are in the "heritance" |
18:24 | owen | aarkerio: You can't do that. It's not how it works. |
18:25 | aarkerio | I don't wanna edit user by user until finish 30 users |
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18:25 | aarkerio | there is no ACL in Koha? |
18:26 | cait | you don't need a user for every staff member, you can also use group logins, if you like that better |
18:27 | owen | aarkerio: Permissions are attached to a user, not a category |
18:27 | cait | one patron for more than one person |
18:27 | owen | aarkerio: You could also update a group of patron's permissions directly in MySQL if you needed to do a bulk modification |
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18:28 | aarkerio | ok, thx a lot!! |
18:28 | ebegin | aarkerio, or there is the Import User features in the Tools module allowing you to import user from a csv file |
18:30 | aarkerio | I will review http://search.cpan.org/~irober[…]s-ACL-0.06/ACL.pm and see how difficult is implement Acces Control Lists in perl |
18:30 | owen | aarkerio: Feel free to add an RFC to the wiki if you develop a plan to add the feature to Koha |
18:32 | aarkerio | I'm a python coder and I am little rusty on Perl so I will check, thx to all! |
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19:48 | indradg_ | owen, around? |
19:48 | owen | Yes |
19:48 | indradg_ | owen, working nicely! http://opac.wbsub.ac.in/cgi-bi[…]r=15#shelfbrowser |
19:48 | :) | |
19:50 | owen | Great! |
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19:54 | Flanagan | My cataloger needs some instruction in importing OCLC records into Koha. Can someone direct me, please? |
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20:26 | wizzyrea | Flanagan: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=c7165#AEN7171 |
20:26 | may help you | |
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20:27 | wizzyrea | flanagan also: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]-manual/?ch=x5033 |
20:28 | * chris | says hi from the airport |
20:28 | brendan | hi chris_airport |
20:29 | wizzyrea | hey chris |
20:30 | Flanagan | I'll check those out. Thanks. |
20:34 | * chris | is off to christchurch for the day to do some koha work at the spinal unit of the hospital |
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20:34 | chris | They are long time koha users |
20:34 | wizzyrea | ooh, fun |
20:34 | cait | hi chris |
20:34 | chris | Hiya cait |
20:35 | cait | have a nice day in christchurch :) |
20:35 | chris | Thank you |
20:36 | cait | ok, bed time - bye all :) |
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20:38 | chris | Ok boarding time to switch the phone off |
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21:20 | JeremyLC | Is it possible to use Koha without using MARC? I saw, through some searching, that that feature ell by the wayside a couple years back, but I couldn't find weather it ever made it back in. |
21:23 | sekjal | JeremyLC: no, I don't believe it did |
21:23 | it would be great to allow for other metadata formats than MARC, but it would be a bear to get Zebra to be able digest them | |
21:23 | JeremyLC | I'm not seeing how to do cataloguing without using MARC records |
21:24 | "Yes Koha was originally designed to be used without MARC. As MARC support was added this functionality was lost. Its something I definitely want to add back. At least the ability to not ever have to see MARC, even if it is being used in the background" - Chris Cormack | |
21:25 | guess we'll have to sort out what to do with the MARC records, then | |
21:26 | sekjal | the interface could certainly be modified to hide MARC from the user |
21:27 | JeremyLC | I think we just need to setup some pared-down frameworks for our materials |
21:28 | the default "new framework" has a mind bending 15+ pages of fields | |
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21:47 | darling | JeremyLC, chris is out of the office today or he'd probably have you a response by now |
21:47 | wizzyrea | hm, can someone tell me which marc field the pubdate sort is sorting on? |
21:47 | when you search in the opac? | |
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22:08 | JeremyLC | I'll try to catch him later. Time for me to leave my office now, too. |
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