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00:26 | custard | chris: have some notes on the problem that you helped me with. Would they be useful to put somewhere? |
00:29 | wasabi | custard: try the kc.org wiki... |
00:29 | http://wiki.koha-community.org | |
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00:31 | mib_ffzoy | hi, all! |
00:31 | what do i do if a long call number appears cut off in the OPAC? | |
00:33 | wasabi | mib_ffzoy: check that its not cut-off in the DB ;) |
00:34 | mib_ffzoy | i enter it in the item record but then it gets cut off |
00:35 | wasabi | itemcallnumber | varchar(30) |
00:35 | 30 chars is the DB limit | |
00:37 | mib_ffzoy | all i see i itemcallnumber is: 050ab |
00:38 | have no idea what chars are :( | |
00:39 | wasabi | char is a abbreviation of characters |
00:39 | so, a 30 character limit.... | |
00:40 | mib_ffzoy | oh, ok, :) |
00:40 | wasabi | works ok for me |
00:41 | mib_ffzoy | so what should i do to increase the limit |
00:41 | wasabi | my advice - set up a new koha-stable (3.0.6) and observe it working correctly |
00:41 | then compare it to your current busted koha | |
00:42 | try to work out why your busted koha is busted | |
00:42 | mib_ffzoy | it's Koha Express |
00:42 | maybe that's why | |
00:43 | pianohack | mib_ffzoy: There's an itemcallnumber systempreference |
00:43 | wasabi | aah, you need to contact your vendor for this problem... |
00:43 | pianohack | and an itemcallnumber database table |
00:43 | *database column | |
00:44 | mib_ffzoy: How long is this call number? Is it longer than 30 characters (letters)? | |
00:44 | wasabi | only PTFS/liblime have access to the koha-express codebase?, i think |
00:44 | mib_ffzoy | HD31 .R5647 2007 study guide c.2 |
00:45 | wasabi | other koha-express users maybe lurking on irc, and may be able to help you |
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00:45 | pianohack | Oh my goodness |
00:46 | mib_ffzoy: That is longer than Koha's 30 character limit | |
00:46 | You can ask your vendor to change it | |
00:46 | But why are they so long? | |
00:46 | mib_ffzoy | i guess i'll have to shorten it |
00:46 | wasabi | 'study guide c.2' should not be in the callnumber? |
00:46 | mib_ffzoy | i''ll just use "guide" |
00:47 | it's not on the bib record but it's on the item record | |
00:48 | wasabi | yep |
00:48 | mib_ffzoy | to differentiate from the actual book |
00:49 | wasabi | i'd put additional stuff like 'study guide c.2' , in the enumchron field, rather than callnumber |
00:50 | mib_ffzoy | and where is "enumchron"? |
00:50 | wasabi | but thats poss. incorrect too, but a better solution than yours |
00:50 | mib_ffzoy | i think a better solution is just to enter "guide" which does fit |
00:50 | pianohack | mib_ffzoy: What is the actual physical thing in question |
00:51 | There is also a copy number field for entering copy-specific information | |
00:51 | like c.2 | |
00:51 | mib_ffzoy | i'll use that, you are right |
00:52 | pianohack | mib_ffzoy: Is this some massive bib that has, say, an actual book and an accompanying study guide? |
00:53 | wasabi | ahh yes, copy-number is a better place than enumchron :) |
00:53 | pianohack | wasabi: also, copy number is visible in the database |
00:53 | *interface | |
00:54 | I don't even know what enumchron shows up as in the interface | |
00:54 | wasabi | enum does the same |
00:54 | pianohack | Well, yes, but not as enumchron |
00:54 | It has some other weird name | |
00:55 | wasabi | 'Publication Details' |
00:55 | mib_ffzoy | there are many examples like this, i assumed whatever fit in the field would actually show up but turns out it's only up to 30 characters... thanks for the help, guys! |
00:56 | enumchron is a system pref? | |
00:56 | wasabi | yeah, some of those columns could get increased a bit, disk is cheap etc.. |
00:57 | nah, its a column in the items table | |
00:57 | pianohack | mib_ffzoy: internal name for another item field |
00:57 | also, hi, mason :) | |
00:57 | wasabi | http://paste.koha-community.org/10 |
00:58 | chris_n | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06[…]/24wimbledon.html |
00:58 | mib_ffzoy | ah, i saw it |
00:58 | wasabi | enumchron | varchar(80) | YES | | NULL | | |
00:58 | oooh, 80 chars :) | |
00:59 | mib_ffzoy | boy, i guess i'll have to learn SQL soon |
00:59 | pianohack | mib_ffzoy: Not necessarily |
00:59 | Though it is awesome for reports | |
00:59 | custard | out of curiosity, how were you planning of fitting all that on the spine label? |
01:00 | mib_ffzoy | it does fit |
01:00 | comfortably on a 2X1" label | |
01:00 | .12 font | |
01:01 | Courier New | |
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01:02 | custard | and labels on the back of the book? |
01:02 | mib_ffzoy | just barcodes |
01:04 | custard | sorry, I'll rephrase. These 2x1" spine labels are going on the back of the book? |
01:04 | mib_ffzoy | spine |
01:05 | custard | Just being, most of the books I can see at the moment wouldn't cope with a 2" wide spine label without wrapping it round the sides and making it hard to read. |
01:06 | mib_ffzoy | let me rephrase, I meant 1X2" |
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01:07 | custard | ok, I think I can understand you wanting a nice big field for that then. |
01:09 | mib_ffzoy | using the copy number should work just fine, that's about the longest a call number can get |
01:11 | thank you all for your help! | |
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01:15 | mib_ffzoy | good night |
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01:27 | chris | heya wizzyrea_ |
01:28 | wizzyrea_ | hello |
01:28 | how's stuff | |
01:28 | chris | stuff.co.nz ? |
01:28 | all good :) | |
01:29 | pianohac1 | chris! |
01:29 | pianohac1 is now known as pianohack | |
01:29 | wizzyrea_ | har de har |
01:29 | no, stuff and things silly | |
01:29 | pianohack | ... |
01:29 | APPLE | |
01:29 | chris_n | anybody following tennis at wimbledon? |
01:29 | chris | the longest match in history? |
01:29 | chris_n | yeah |
01:29 | chris | yep |
01:29 | wizzyrea_ | lol it's crazy |
01:30 | chris | 09:07 < wizzyrea> best article ever: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/t[…]-match-in-history |
01:30 | she beat you by a few hours chris_n :) | |
01:30 | chris_n | my wife used to play lots of tennis and says they must be nearly dead |
01:30 | pianohack | nice photo choice |
01:30 | chris_n | its hard to beat wizzyrea on the draw |
01:30 | :) | |
01:31 | * chris_n | hates the constant whinning of windows to be rebooted after updates |
01:32 | chris | theres a fix for that |
01:32 | pianohack | chris_n: Go to control panel -> administrative tools -> services |
01:32 | then find a service related to automatic updates | |
01:33 | (not sure of the name) | |
01:33 | and kill it dead | |
01:33 | wizzyrea_ | DEAD. |
01:33 | pianohack | with a stick |
01:33 | wizzyrea_ | kill windows dead too, while you're at it |
01:33 | pianohack | if only |
01:33 | * chris_n | takes aim at his windows box |
01:34 | wizzyrea_ | you can do it |
01:34 | go all office space on it | |
01:34 | chris | :) |
01:34 | chris_n | but suddenly realizes that a better solution would be to recycle it into a ubuntu box |
01:34 | wizzyrea_ | no chris, you can not have my mac to go office space on |
01:34 | >.> | |
01:35 | chris | heh |
01:35 | gmcharlt_ | reminds me of an instance where a librarian I was doing a migration for threatened to drop the old ILS server off the roof the moment they went live - the hardware maintenance fee was a killer, evidently |
01:41 | * chris_n | has threatened to throw a few windows boxes out into the midst of I95 traffic as it is so handily nearby work |
01:41 | gmcharlt_ | ! |
01:41 | what did those poor drivers ever do to you? inflicting windows on them like that! yike! | |
01:42 | chris_n | it would be just my luck that the wrong windows would break |
01:44 | wizzyrea_ | ba dum bum |
01:44 | I'd imagine the thrown windows were already broken before their fated crash into a car windshield | |
01:45 | robin | gmcharlt_: drivers make windows crash, therefor windows makes drivers crash. |
01:45 | gmcharlt_ | heh |
01:45 | chris_n | hehe |
01:45 | gmcharlt_ | @quote add <robin> drivers make windows crash, therefor windows makes drivers crash. |
01:45 | munin | gmcharlt_: The operation succeeded. Quote #78 added. |
01:45 | robin | I just wish you'd fixed my spelling before doing that ;) |
01:45 | wizzyrea_ | robin: that's a good one |
01:46 | gmcharlt_ | @quote remove 78 |
01:46 | munin | gmcharlt_: The operation succeeded. |
01:46 | gmcharlt_ | @quote add <robin> drivers make windows crash, therefore windows makes drivers crash. |
01:46 | munin | gmcharlt_: The operation succeeded. Quote #79 added. |
01:46 | wizzyrea_ | @quote random |
01:46 | munin | wizzyrea_: Quote #5: "<jwagner> Why is it every Koha rock I turn over produces a zillion (metaphorical) ants, each with a new question????" (added by kf at 09:13 AM, June 12, 2009) |
01:46 | chris_n | lol |
01:46 | robin | heh thanks, that makes me seem a lot more edumacated :) |
01:46 | wizzyrea_ | @quote random |
01:46 | munin | wizzyrea_: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 02:58 PM, September 17, 2009) |
01:46 | chris_n | @quote random |
01:46 | munin | chris_n: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 10:58 AM, July 10, 2009) |
01:47 | gmcharlt_ | @quote add <robin> heh thanks, that makes me seem a lot more edumacated :) |
01:47 | munin | gmcharlt_: The operation succeeded. Quote #80 added. |
01:47 | gmcharlt_ | ;) |
01:47 | wizzyrea_ | the idea of a portuguese hitchcock makes me giggle |
01:47 | robin | heh |
01:47 | wizzyrea_ | @quote random |
01:47 | munin | wizzyrea_: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 07:27 PM, October 04, 2009) |
01:47 | wizzyrea_ | @quote random |
01:47 | munin | wizzyrea_: Quote #46: "<brendan> tip - don't pet a burning dog" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:08 PM, November 13, 2009) |
01:47 | wizzyrea_ | LOL |
01:48 | chris_n | heh |
01:48 | wizzyrea_ | @quote random |
01:48 | munin | wizzyrea_: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 11:05 PM, May 30, 2009) |
01:48 | wizzyrea_ | *giggle |
01:48 | chris_n | @quote random |
01:48 | munin | chris_n: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 09:55 PM, June 11, 2009) |
01:49 | wizzyrea_ | lol we are a funny bunch |
01:50 | the light outside is rose colored... it's quite lovely but it looks a bit weird | |
01:50 | robin | wizzyrea_: wait until you get up in the morning and the sky is a deep yellow. |
01:51 | That's quite freaky. (and happens here when there are big fires in Australia) | |
01:51 | wizzyrea_ | we had one of those a few days ago |
01:51 | but in the evening | |
01:51 | (big thunderstorms, I swear I thought I was wearing yellow sunglasses) | |
01:51 | robin | ah, big thunderstorms are rare here |
01:52 | chris_n | big thunderstorms in Kansas = big tornados |
01:53 | wizzyrea_ | you know, it seems like we've had fewer of those this year |
01:53 | oklahoma is getting them | |
01:53 | and farther north | |
01:53 | but not here | |
01:53 | at least not this year | |
01:53 | we've had lots of big lightning, heavy rain, high wind storms | |
01:53 | but not so much tornado | |
01:54 | at least, nothing that lives up to our reputation as toto's home | |
01:54 | chris_n | down bursts are the big problem here |
01:55 | robin | We just have a lot of wind, so it's got to be quite something before it counts as extreme here. ALso, anything that's likely to blow down in a storm probably blew down already on a normal day :) |
01:55 | chris_n | lol |
01:55 | wizzyrea_ | hehe |
01:55 | where in australia? | |
01:56 | robin | wizzyrea_: in NZ (Wellington) |
01:56 | wizzyrea_ | oh I thought you said australia |
01:56 | guess I should have guess NZ since you work with chris, right? | |
01:56 | robin | wizzyrea_: no, when Australia has big fires, we sometimes see the results here. |
01:56 | wizzyrea_ | s/guess/guessed |
01:56 | robin | yep. |
01:56 | wizzyrea_ | AH |
01:56 | well that makes sense | |
01:57 | * chris_n | heads off to sleep |
01:58 | chris_n | g'night |
01:58 | wizzyrea_ | gnite |
01:58 | robin | cya |
01:59 | chris | night chris_n |
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02:14 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4897: Invalid XHTML in opac-userupdate.tmpl. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8ad02f64f25105735> |
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02:34 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 4869 - Non-staff patrons logging into the OPAC don't have option to place... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8b54ff16e85042c21> / Bug3916 : Batch Modify tool overwrites branches fields <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]95d6bf08d23556aa0> / Bug 4474 swap options for sys pref singleBranchMode <http://git.ko |
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02:44 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 4821, With multiple 5XX fields, the font display gets progressively smaller <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]621976959cc2edd44> / Partial fix for Bug 4423, Staff Client XSLT is just a copy of the OPAC one <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13a60340fd3899196> / More fixes for Bug 4423, Staff Client XSLT is j |
02:54 | New commit(s) kohagit: Fix for Bug 4532, Use include file for bibliodefaultview logic <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4e0c911b2de9ecf43> | |
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03:03 | Amit | good morning #koha |
03:03 | heya chris | |
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03:23 | brendan | evening |
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06:46 | kf | good morning #koha |
06:49 | Ropuch | Morning #kf |
06:50 | kf | hi Ropuch |
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06:51 | magnus | g'day #koha |
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08:11 | Elwell | doh! /dev/coffee fail. 'git pull' wasn't updating |
08:12 | then realised I was in ~/GIT_Sources/koji/ not ~/GIT_Sources/koha/ | |
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08:26 | * magnus | thinks there is an error in INSTALL.debian and .ubuntu: it says "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone", but should say "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone"? |
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09:11 | chris | i thought that was fixed |
09:11 | at least i thought i sent a patch, ill chase it up | |
09:25 | kf | morning chris |
09:30 | chris | hi kf |
09:32 | kf | is there a way to check if something is already utf-8?, I'm working on bug 4904, when I comment out $formatted_fine = Encode::encode("utf8", $formatted_fine); its working perfect. Not sure I can just do it or if there needs to be a test for utf-8 or something. |
09:32 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4904 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Problem with printing fines in overdue notices |
09:39 | kf | hm I will kill the encode part and send a patch |
09:42 | magnus | chris: great! |
09:50 | chris | magnus: wow, that really is a fail from dell |
09:50 | kf: unfortunately no, there is not a reliable way to detect encoding | |
09:51 | magnus | chris: rather! |
09:51 | kf | chris: I looked at the documentation of Locale::Currency::format. i think it returns utf-8 as default |
09:52 | so it should be save to remove the encoding | |
09:53 | paul | kf, do you plan to introduce Loacale::Currency::format ? |
09:53 | kf | its already there |
09:53 | paul | (hi magnus, kf, chris & al) |
09:53 | kf | paul: see my bug report 4904, there is a link to chris_n's patch |
09:54 | and hi paul :) | |
09:54 | paul | kf, yep, but it's not used in acq. It's on our todolist : the display of the money is poor in acq : hardcoded fr or en display :'(((( |
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09:56 | magnus | chris: someone from dell just contacted me on twitter - the power of public complaints... |
09:57 | kf | paul: two options are better than before. but I think acq really needs a bit of work. hope I can get it to print an pdf today. |
10:01 | oh, i forgot to reset the date in my vm after testing... now the patch was sent out on Sat Jul 24 10:37:32 CEST 2010 | |
10:01 | do I need to resend it? | |
10:01 | chris | its the time of the commit |
10:02 | i wouldnt worry about it :) | |
10:02 | paul | kf, do you plan to come to kohaCon NZ ? |
10:02 | kf | atm no, but still thinking about it |
10:02 | the journey is a bit scary | |
10:03 | * paul | strongly encourage you... |
10:03 | paul | kf, yep, 30 hours from Marseille !!!! |
10:03 | will stop&go in HongKong probably | |
10:03 | (& 1800� !) | |
10:04 | magnus | kf: scary yes, but i think it will be worth it |
10:05 | paul | it's definetly worth it ! undoubtfully ! |
10:05 | Ropuch | The most scary part is the flight cost ;> |
10:05 | kf | yes, but it needs a lot of organisation too |
10:06 | Ropuch | I'm sure it does |
10:06 | kf | paul: do you have plans for a kohacon in france? ;) |
10:06 | chris | the first kohacon was in france kf |
10:06 | paul | kf, yes, there will be on in may ...2006 |
10:06 | :D | |
10:07 | s/on/one/* | |
10:07 | * chris | flew the 30 hours to get there :-) |
10:07 | chris | and it was definitely worth it |
10:07 | paul | yep, and the hackfest part was really a great great time ! |
10:08 | kf | paul: have you booked your flights to kohacon? |
10:08 | paul | the kohacon is not a "must go", but the hackfest IS for a developper. No doubt ! |
10:08 | kf not yet, I plan to do that in the next days/weeks | |
10:08 | kf | not sure Im a developer |
10:08 | paul | kf, you send patches, isn't it ? so you are ! |
10:08 | chris | we have a really good room we can use for hte developer conference, its the training room at work, has projector and laptop stations etc .. and all are welcome :) |
10:09 | plus the conference programme is shaping up to have some great talks... from librarians all over the world | |
10:11 | kf | Im sure it will be great |
10:13 | magnus | i'm looking forward to hearing about integration of koha and kete, i think walter(?) said he would give a talk on that? |
10:13 | chris | yep |
10:16 | magnus: do you have any idea which route you will be taking? | |
10:17 | magnus | not really |
10:17 | chris | i wonder if it might be possible to coordinate with kf that you end up on the same flight ? :) |
10:17 | magnus | would be nice |
10:17 | i'm thinking of maybe stopping over to visit relatives in LA | |
10:18 | chris | ahh, stopovers are a nice way to break the trip up |
10:18 | magnus | but then, i may just grit my teeth and do it as direct as possible |
10:18 | yeah, several people have told me as much | |
10:23 | kf | magnus: perhaps you can tell once you have decided on a flight? |
10:23 | magnus | i will! hope to figure it out some time next week |
10:26 | chris | cool |
10:51 | kf | lunch, bbl |
10:52 | custard | I don't suppose there's a wiki page on how to make/edit pages in the wiki? |
10:53 | Ropuch | Ok, I'm pretty sure i messed something up |
10:53 | I have a koha dump - database version is 3.0100041 | |
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11:00 | chris | custard: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/[…]arting_a_new_page |
11:09 | custard | chris: thanks. |
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11:12 | jdavidb | howdy, #koha! |
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11:40 | gmcharlt_ | good morning |
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11:42 | jwagner | morning, gmcharlt_ and all |
11:42 | Amit | heya galen, jwagner |
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11:57 | owen | Hi #koha |
11:57 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: fix two broken calls to _FixPriority <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dd073503d49e2315b> / bug 3344: display in-transit status on holds priority list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]95ee5fce101178f4d> / bug 4224: explicitly mark hold requests as being handled by item in transit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ |
12:05 | jdavidb | hi, owen! :) |
12:05 | * owen | thinks it must be his birthday...a bunch of his patches approved! |
12:11 | owen | Well, that cuts down my list of patch-sent branches |
12:12 | Thanks gmcharlt_ ! | |
12:17 | kf | hi owen, jdavidb and jwagner |
12:17 | jdavidb | hi, kf! :D |
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12:24 | kf | thanks gmcharlt_ :) |
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12:28 | jwagner | hi kf |
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12:36 | chris_n | g'morning #koha |
12:36 | jdavidb | hi, chris_n. :) |
12:37 | * chris_n | waves toward the north |
12:37 | kf | hi chris_n |
12:38 | * chris_n | heads back to OpenLDAP land for the day |
12:39 | magnus | does anyone have experience with the koha offline plugin for firefox? i can't seem to make it sync, and i can't find the file to upload... |
12:39 | kf | magnus: sorry, never tested it |
12:40 | magnus | Kivutar around? |
12:43 | Kivutar | magnus: yes |
12:43 | this plugins don't generate a koc file | |
12:43 | it posts the data to koha | |
12:43 | magnus | hi! oops, i thought it did... i must be confusing it with something else |
12:44 | cool | |
12:44 | Kivutar | magnus: you can ask Kyle Hall about the plugin using koc files |
12:44 | kf | Is it ok to close bug 3046? I did alot of fines testing and it think maxfine is working. |
12:44 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3046 major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, System ignores MaxFine syspref |
12:44 | magnus | Kivutar: what goes in the server field? |
12:45 | Kivutar | magnus: the url of your intranet |
12:45 | magnus | so the whole http://demo.bibkat.no:8080/ ? |
12:46 | Kivutar | yes, but i can't remember if there is the trailing / or not |
12:46 | magnus | ok |
12:46 | Kivutar | magnus: without |
12:47 | magnus | thanks! and what is the difference between "commit to koha" and "apply directly"? |
12:48 | Kivutar | magnus: if you commit to koha, the operations are stored in a table of the db |
12:48 | allowinf you to order them by timestamp | |
12:48 | this is usefull in the case of many people doing offline circulation at the same time | |
12:49 | everybody post to koha, then koha order the operations, and someone with the rights launch the process | |
12:49 | magnus | um, which process is that? |
12:49 | Kivutar | apply directly send the operations to koha, and koha apply them |
12:50 | magnus: in circulation tools, there is a new page, where you can see the pending operations | |
12:51 | it is in biblibre/master, i have no idea if it has been integrated to the community 3.2 or future 3.4 | |
12:52 | magnus | a ha, i can't see it in HEAD... |
12:52 | Kivutar | arf |
12:53 | too bad, because these patches come with an api rewritte for the offline circulation | |
12:53 | maybe it was too late, feature freeze or something like that | |
12:54 | magnus | does that mean "apply directly" doesn't work either? |
12:54 | Kivutar | (coffee time) |
12:54 | magnus | this is on 3.01.00.124 |
12:54 | Kivutar | magnus: wont work |
12:55 | magnus | ok, thanks for answering a lot of questions anyway! |
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13:29 | custard | is there anyone in the room at the moment who could help with a wiki formatting question? (it's for the Koha wiki so somewhat appropriate) |
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13:43 | magnus | custard: shoot! |
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13:51 | custard | right. Ludicrously long bit of text (command with web path in it) that I was planning to do as preformatted text. But it goes way, way outside the box. |
13:52 | If the page is useful, this is something that would probably be cut and pasted, so I don't want to put hard breaks into it, but I think it should at least be on the screen. | |
13:54 | At the moment I've got it differentiated using the <code></code> markup, but it is not as obvious as I would like. Is there any way of reconciling this? | |
13:57 | magnus | not that i know of, i'm afraid... |
13:58 | wizzyrea | custard, which page |
13:58 | magnus | one way i have seen is to have a \ at the end of "artificial" lines |
13:58 | wizzyrea | which page are you working on? |
14:03 | custard | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages |
14:04 | about 3/4 of the way down. | |
14:04 | wizzyrea | dependencies? |
14:05 | custard | yes. |
14:09 | wizzyrea | custard: like this? http://screencast.com/t/ZWJmYWQ4Yj |
14:09 | kf | bye all |
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14:10 | wizzyrea | nah that won't work |
14:10 | but it will look pretty | |
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14:11 | wizzyrea | you could just tell people to wget each one separately |
14:11 | amadan | hello folks |
14:11 | wizzyrea | which of course no sysadmin would really do, but it would make it easier to display |
14:11 | custard | blimy, glad they gave you a way to shorten that url. |
14:13 | amadan | can i convert my catalog from csv into marc? |
14:13 | wrong question | |
14:13 | how do i convert my catalog from csv into marc? | |
14:13 | for koha | |
14:14 | wizzyrea | usually using MARCEdit |
14:14 | custard | Tried that. Even on their own they go outside the pretty little box. But the I suppose that's only a but to way outside the box instead of way, way outside the box. |
14:14 | amadan | any url? |
14:14 | wizzyrea | hm. it's not doing that on mine |
14:14 | what's the resolution you are working at? | |
14:15 | (mine is rediculous, but window size is close to 1024x768 | |
14:15 | amadan | any url for MARCEdit? |
14:15 | custard | ah. box is window size related. I'll break them into individual wgets. |
14:15 | wizzyrea | I"ll do it, I already have it done :) |
14:16 | done | |
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14:35 | custard | Thanks. |
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15:12 | wizzyrea | heya |
15:13 | jwagner | owen, online |
15:13 | ? | |
15:14 | owen | Yes |
15:15 | jwagner: Ask me a Koha question to calm my Drupal rage | |
15:15 | jwagner | Do you (or anyone else) know of a site that's embedded the Koha OPAC into a frame on the main library web page? |
15:15 | * owen | doesn't |
15:16 | jwagner | Drat :-( |
15:16 | Is there some stylesheet setting that controls page width? Embedding the OPAC as-is is too wide for the frame. | |
15:17 | owen | jwagner: The YUI grids CSS controls the page width, so you'd have to go about overriding each page's layout |
15:18 | ...assuming you're talking about something fixed-width | |
15:18 | Other things just plain won't fit if you try to squeeze them too small. like the search bar with the cart and lists buttons | |
15:20 | jwagner | That's not the answer he wanted :-( but it's the answer I was afraid of. Thanks. |
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15:21 | owen | I take it this library isn't satisfied with their customization options? |
15:22 | jdavidb | sounds like one of our customers who is Never Satisfied, period. Something in the water where they live, I think. |
15:23 | * owen | shudders at the thought of any site embedded into a frame on any other site. Period. |
15:24 | * jwagner | agrees.... |
15:26 | jwagner | The main problem is the organization redesigning its web site & demanding that the library fit into the scheme of things :-( |
15:28 | owen | It seems to be a rule of thumb that libraries must be in the middle of a web site redesign when it comes time to implement Koha |
15:28 | jwagner | And in this case, they sprang a surprise on the library -- new org web site goes live next week, and library isn't due to go live until around 1st of August. There's nothing to put in the frame yet, but the org still wants something. Sigh. |
15:30 | * jwagner | hopes this at least diverted owen from his Drupal rage :) |
15:30 | * owen | Drupal... rage... rising! |
15:30 | wizzyrea | ogm |
15:30 | omg* | |
15:30 | * jwagner | sends waves of calming thoughts toward owen -- ommmmmmm |
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15:32 | wizzyrea | jwagner: you can do some pretty wicked stuff with the CSS headers to make it look pretty close |
15:32 | combined with the side nav | |
15:32 | jwagner | wizzyrea, know of a sample site I could look at? |
15:32 | wizzyrea | do you have clearance to give us a link? |
15:32 | to what you are looking at? | |
15:33 | jwagner | If they can see someplace where it's more or less working, maybe they can design something similar. |
15:33 | There's nothing to look at yet -- don't even have a test load done. | |
15:33 | wizzyrea | well I meant the organizational website |
15:33 | that it's supposed to fit ito | |
15:33 | into* | |
15:34 | * owen | thought this came off pretty well: http://nyack.waldo.kohalibrary.com/ |
15:34 | owen | Compare to http://www.nyackcollege.edu/library.php |
15:34 | wizzyrea | HLT too |
15:34 | http://www.library.org.nz | |
15:34 | so I mean | |
15:34 | owen | Of course since then they redesigned their main page: http://www.nyackcollege.edu/ *sigh* |
15:34 | wizzyrea | it can be done that the *theme* is preserved |
15:35 | that's probably another one on jwagner's list >.> | |
15:35 | and | |
15:35 | jwagner | |
15:36 | don't forget that you can lift out that koha search box and put it on *any* web page | |
15:36 | same with login boxes | |
15:36 | jwagner | Yep, I already have the colors/images to match the main site. The new main site isn't available where I can see it yet, though, to see what they're trying to do. the librarian is trying to explain it to me. |
15:36 | Two non-web developers trying to interpret web design. Oh The Humanity! | |
15:36 | hdl | jwagner: you could use ILSDI and zebra to send direct data to the site. |
15:36 | wizzyrea | oh god |
15:36 | web design by committee makes me cry | |
15:36 | hdl | Then ppl could be z |
15:37 | able to display the data the way they want. | |
15:37 | jwagner | hdl, I don't have a clue what you're saying :-( I think you're beyond my level.... |
15:38 | wizzyrea | I think he's saying basically rebuild an all new OPAC that fits in your new theme |
15:38 | or maybe not | |
15:38 | jwagner | Not without major development $$$, we don't.... |
15:39 | wizzyrea | http://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PT[…]e/harley/C4/ILSDI, and http://www.diglib.org/architectures/ilsdi/ |
15:40 | (because I didn't know what it was) | |
15:42 | jwagner | Dunno about that one. I've suggested to the librarian that he put a placeholder page with a search box as something to go into the frame, then let it link & open the OPAC in a new window, but he thinks they won't go for that. Sigh.... |
15:42 | wizzyrea | I won't even ask why it has to go in a frame |
15:43 | jwagner | Because the Powers That Be _Say So_ -- no rational reason.... |
15:44 | wizzyrea | ha |
15:44 | jdavidb | putting a perfectly good web page in a frame is like putting a 6 year old behind the wheel of your new Lexus...sure, you could, but why would you want to? |
15:44 | wizzyrea | oh and jane... I was wrong, on the day of our talk there were 11 blockers |
15:44 | and a couple of them were for 3.4 (which is where I got 2) | |
15:45 | I meant to tell you sooner (i.e. apologize) | |
15:46 | chris_n | now for a momentary diversion: "History is written by the winners, and failing that by the people who keep the best backups" |
15:46 | wizzyrea | hee |
15:46 | hdl | wizzyrea: jwagner I was just saying that you could embed your search and patron accounts using ILSDI and SRU/SRW research. It was better intgrated than a simple iframe. |
15:47 | just require adequate xslt | |
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15:51 | jwagner | hdl, thanks. It sounds like it would still require some development, correct? This library has no extra money to spend building anything. |
15:52 | wizzyrea | then, ehm, beggars can't be choosers? |
15:52 | * wizzyrea | runs and hides |
15:52 | owen | It doesn't sound like they're in a position to ask for much then :P |
15:54 | chris_n | lol wizzyrea |
15:54 | jwagner | Yes, I've been trying to tactfully make that point to them. There's the standard OPAC customization I do, and then there's Other Stuff. This falls in the Other Stuff category. |
15:54 | * chris_n | thinks it could also be driven by the $$$/year they represent even if there is no liquid $$$ atm :-P |
15:55 | jwagner | I was hoping, if someone has done it successfully, then their own web developers could look at such a site and do their own mods to opac.css. Doesn't sound hopeful, though. |
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16:00 | NickyNick | Anyone know why I would get this error when starting Zebrasrv even though Koha user has full right to the zebradb directory? - lock file /var/lock/koha/zebradb/biblios/zebrasrv.pid [Permission denied] |
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16:01 | wizzyrea | are you running the jobs as the koha user? |
16:01 | NickyNick | Yep |
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16:17 | cait | hi #koha |
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16:19 | joetho | the goblin newbie zone has a quest where you feed monkeys explosive bananas and fight a giant mechanical chicken! |
16:20 | jwagner | joetho, something for the "cherrypick into Koha" list? |
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16:51 | jdavidb | @karma jdavidb |
16:51 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. |
16:51 | jdavidb | @karma |
16:51 | munin | jdavidb: Highest karma: "chris" (149), "gmcharlt" (148), and "owen" (116). Lowest karma: "<!" (-57), "failed" (-40), and "-" (-25). You (jdavidb) are ranked 14 out of 874. |
16:52 | jdavidb | @karma jwagner |
16:52 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 34 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 34. |
16:52 | owen | gmcharlt and chris are neck-and-neck. They should spend more time ingratiating themselves with us. |
16:53 | jdavidb | A redesign of the OPAC--right in your wheelhouse, owen--would put you right in there with 'em. |
16:53 | @karma kados | |
16:53 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "kados" has been increased 16 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 14. |
16:53 | * jdavidb | chuckles. |
16:54 | jdavidb | @karma cfouts |
16:54 | munin | jdavidb: Karma for "cfouts" has been increased 10 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 10. |
16:55 | jwagner | I can't go get a bite of lunch without karma wars breaking out again? |
16:58 | jdavidb | nope. |
16:59 | @eightball is it possible for me to catch up with stuff before the weekend? | |
16:59 | munin | jdavidb: NO! |
16:59 | jdavidb | Din't think so. |
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17:02 | cait | hi jdavidb |
17:02 | @karma kf | |
17:02 | munin | cait: Karma for "kf" has been increased 16 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 16. |
17:02 | cait | @karma cait |
17:02 | munin | cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 14 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 14. |
17:02 | cait | hey, 30 :) |
17:02 | jdavidb | Hi, cait! :) |
17:03 | @roulette | |
17:03 | munin | jdavidb: *click* |
17:03 | cait | @roulette |
17:03 | munin | cait: *click* |
17:03 | jdavidb | @roulette |
17:03 | jdavidb was kicked by munin: BANG! | |
17:03 | * munin | reloads and spins the chambers. |
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17:03 | jdavidb | all better... :) |
17:08 | cait | @roulette |
17:08 | munin | cait: *click* |
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17:18 | zico | hi all |
17:18 | how are you everybody? | |
17:19 | as i mailed in the mailing list | |
17:19 | but... i haven`t get any help...can anyone please help me regarding "Report Generation Wizard"? :( | |
17:19 | i need it badly | |
17:20 | our koha - 3.0.5 cannot generate any report if we go for "Statistics Wizard" | |
17:20 | it shows *Total 0* for every position like Acquisition, Circulation, Patron... | |
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18:16 | gmcharlt | munin, you slacker |
18:16 | munin | gmcharlt: Error: "you" is not a valid command. |
18:16 | gmcharlt | ah, there you are |
18:17 | cait | hi gmcharlt |
18:17 | gmcharlt | hi cait |
18:19 | munin | New commit(s) kohagit: Select in budget add forum <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]12cd30306fd744542> / Bug 4905 Runtime errors in about.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d85692e569359fd74> |
18:29 | New commit(s) kohagit: (MT2371) basket.tmpl, in basket details, change Open on => Opened on <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d520a0326bb608504> / (BUG #4356) Basket.pl: adding a link to the basketgroup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b1e557af238f29a52> / (BUG #4521) aqbudgets.pl - Transform undefined budget spent value to 0.00 value <http | |
18:29 | jdavidb | gmcharlt++ |
18:29 | @karma | |
18:29 | munin | jdavidb: Highest karma: "chris" (149), "gmcharlt" (149), and "owen" (115). Lowest karma: "<!" (-57), "failed" (-40), and "-" (-25). You (jdavidb) are ranked 14 out of 875. |
18:29 | jdavidb | o.O |
18:29 | wizzyrea_ | jdavidb++ just because |
18:30 | jdavidb | Aww! thanx! |
18:31 | cait | jdavidb++ |
18:32 | jdavidb | ooo...couple more, and I might actually catch jwagner! |
18:33 | collum | jdavidb++ :) |
18:33 | cait | @karma jdavidb |
18:33 | munin | cait: Karma for "jdavidb" has been increased 31 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 31. |
18:33 | cait | @karma jwagner |
18:33 | munin | cait: Karma for "jwagner" has been increased 34 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 34. |
18:33 | * cait | whispers jdavidb++ |
18:46 | owen | karma party for the next person to fix a bug older than one year. I'll bring the pluses. |
18:48 | Can anyone confirm something for me? In my up-to-date install of HEAD when I submit a suggestion with an item type the item type information is not saved to the suggestions table | |
18:48 | What complicates things is that my submission form doesn't actually show item types, it shows collection codes. | |
18:49 | Hm, I guess that's Bug 4830 | |
18:49 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4830 normal, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, item type on purchase suggestion not carried over |
18:49 | cait | I wondered what the pull down is good for |
18:50 | I think it might be confusing for patrons (thought about hiding it with jQuery) | |
19:00 | jwagner | reading back, jdavidb will never catch me in karma! |
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19:03 | chris_n | *sigh* |
19:03 | why can't network administration be easy? | |
19:03 | jdavidb | I'm off to catch the bus, y'all. |
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19:03 | chris_n | run fast :) |
19:03 | wizzyrea_ | chris_n: I can so relate |
19:04 | * owen | does his best to avoid network administration, bolstered by healthy levels of ignorance |
19:04 | jwagner | chris_n, if it were _easy_ they wouldn't need people of your ability to do it :-) |
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19:05 | * chris_n | thanks jwagner for the vote of confidence |
19:05 | chris | morning |
19:05 | chris_n | heya |
19:05 | owen | Hi chris |
19:05 | * chris | is tired |
19:05 | jwagner | morning, chris |
19:06 | chris_n | that's not good this early in your morning |
19:06 | chris | we managed to draw 0-0 with paraguay, so nz goes threw the world cup unbeaten |
19:06 | but stupid italy lost to slovaki | |
19:06 | a | |
19:06 | otoh, we do end up with more points than the defending world champs .. so thats ok :) | |
19:07 | and it does mean i dont need to keep getting up at 2am | |
19:09 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/f[…]ars-end-wild-ride | |
19:13 | cait | chris: you go unbeaten :( |
19:14 | chris | yeah, not bad for the only team with amateurs in it :) |
19:15 | cait | no not bad |
19:15 | but I will loose my bet :) | |
19:16 | chris | heh yeah |
19:18 | cait | but will keep the nz flag in my office until the wc is over |
19:19 | and perhaps a bit longer to remind me about kohacon | |
19:26 | chris | :) |
19:38 | cait: did you see the nz pop culture page ? | |
19:38 | cait | yes I did |
19:39 | :) | |
19:39 | chris | you can play some nz music in your office :) |
19:40 | oh cool some more nz librarians registered last night | |
19:42 | cait | :) |
19:45 | chris | bus time |
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20:35 | chris | back |
20:40 | larsw | gooooood morning |
20:41 | chris | hey there larsw ... it is actually quite a pleasant morning :) |
20:42 | larsw | I am having one as well :) |
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20:42 | richard | hi |
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20:49 | chris | cool another speaker confirmation |
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21:24 | chris | hi sekjal, in DC now? |
21:24 | sekjal | chris: on the bus just yet |
21:24 | most of the way to New Haven, CT | |
21:25 | chris | ahh |
21:26 | sekjal | chris: do you (or anyone else in channel) know why we have DOM filtering for Zebra authorities and not for Zebra biblios? |
21:27 | is it a technical difficulty I haven't found yet? | |
21:27 | chris | i think it just hasnt been done yet |
21:27 | there might be something to do with other language support, im not sure gmcharlt would know | |
21:27 | sekjal | ah okay. I'll ask him this weekend, if I get the chance |
21:28 | gmcharlt | sekjal: it just that it hasn't been done yet |
21:28 | sekjal | oh, hi, gmcharlt |
21:28 | okay, cool | |
21:28 | was just reading the code for rebuild_zebra.pl | |
21:28 | gmcharlt | however, if we make a go of it, I think we should do it by putting up a frontend for storing and maintaining indexing definitions |
21:29 | so that we're not making users have to update the XSLT templates directly | |
21:29 | chris | definitely |
21:31 | sekjal | there is still the issue of combining DOM and XML export (resulting in no root element), but that seems like it's achievable |
21:32 | getting past that would get us around the ISO 2709 file size limit bug, wouldn't it? since MARCXML has no such limitation | |
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21:40 | gmcharlt | sekjal: right, and it does that anyway with the -x option - the DOM filter isn't required to index MARCXML documents using the GRS-1 indexing config |
21:40 | sekjal | but you can't combine -a and -x with rebuild_zebra.pl |
21:41 | gmcharlt | right, but you don't have to reindex bibs and authorities in the same run |
21:41 | sekjal | I suppose... but convenience! |
21:41 | cait | good night all |
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21:45 | pianohack | brendan|h or brendan_o: are either of you brendan gallagher, and are you around? |
21:45 | chris | pianohack: i think he is on his way, or is at ALA and yes those are both him :) |
21:45 | hi jdavidb | |
21:45 | pianohack | k |
21:46 | jdavidb | hi, chris. |
21:46 | sekjal | brendan_o is his office bot |
21:46 | pianohack | cool |
21:46 | thanks ian | |
21:47 | sekjal | np, pianohack. On my way to ALA, myself |
21:47 | pianohack | cool |
21:47 | also, hello | |
21:47 | sekjal | and hello to you |
21:47 | pianohack | now that my brendan harassment has been delegated to munin |
21:50 | sekjal | I'm very happy the bus has WiFi, but unfortunately it doesn't have power.... my battery will be giving in shortly |
21:51 | chris | ahh bummer |
21:53 | sekjal | yeah |
21:53 | ah, well, I can still design even if I can't actually code | |
21:53 | chris | :) |
21:54 | your flights to nz booked? virgin australia has usb for charging | |
21:55 | sekjal | chris; not yet... I really need to get on that |
21:55 | keep hoping I'll magically catch some sweet deal | |
21:55 | chris | :) the deal nengard got was pretty sweet |
21:55 | sekjal | yeah, it does set a bit of a high (or rather, low) standard |
21:55 | chris | :) |
21:56 | sekjal | I've also got to get tickets for my wife, who will be joining me after the conference for a little vacation time |
21:58 | chris | awesome! i think quite a few ppl are doing that |
21:58 | sekjal | she got to spend a semester in Australia, but had to skip the week in NZ... so now we can make it up together! |
21:59 | chris | sweet |
21:59 | sekjal | alright, pulling into New Haven, with all of 13% battery remaining. hope to be back on later today or tomorrow. |
21:59 | cheers, all! | |
21:59 | chris | cya sekjal |
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22:15 | chris | nice song for friday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0vDU-L2qcA&a |
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22:42 | * magnus | has been grumbling a bit about the weather and just wants to put the record straight by pointing out that he now has a livingroom full of sunlight, at 45 minutes past midnight! |
22:42 | chris | :) |
22:44 | magnus | nights like these make the whole above-the-polar-circle-malarky worth wile... |
22:45 | chris | that would be something special to see |
22:46 | magnus | sure is! |
22:46 | we should have kohacon up here some time, in the middle of summer | |
22:47 | chris | definitely |
22:47 | magnus | it would make nz seem a *lot* less remote... ;-) |
22:47 | chris | heh |
22:48 | robin | magnus: nz isn't remote anyway. It's just that many people decide to live stupidly large distances away :) |
22:51 | magnus | robin: i know! |
22:54 | it's just that there seemed to be some reactions of that kind to having kohacon in nz... ;-) | |
22:58 | larsw | NZ is not far away at all |
22:58 | barely five minutes by foot! | |
23:03 | magnus | yeah, and neither is the North Cape, just some 16 hours by car ;-) |
23:06 | g'night #koha | |
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23:49 | mle | hey chris. hows tricks? |
23:50 | chris | not bad, and you? |
23:50 | mle | : ) |
23:50 | got some SMAL training last week | |
23:50 | got some SAML training last week even | |
23:51 | looking into which directory to deploy | |
23:51 | chris | cool |
23:51 | mle | tips? |
23:51 | chris | i havent done any saml stuff myself, so your guess is as good as mine |
23:51 | mle | hehe |
23:51 | ty | |
23:52 | well its not gonna be AD |
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