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00:23 | jo | brendan from nsw? |
00:23 | brendan | nope - but hi jo |
00:24 | jo | :) |
00:25 | mib_d6my8 | jo\ |
00:25 | Brendan from vicnet mylanguage | |
00:30 | chris | hi jo |
00:38 | jo | hi chris |
00:39 | chris | i think mib_d6my8 might be the brendan you are after |
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00:51 | jo | yep - thanks chris |
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02:57 | chris | burning the midnight oil jdavidb ? |
02:57 | jdavidb | eh, not that late yet...and not sleepy. |
02:58 | chris | fair enough |
03:08 | custard | with Lars's .debs, has he found someone to test them on ubuntu lucid? |
03:09 | chris | not anyone who has documented it |
03:09 | larsw | I haven't heard of anything |
03:09 | custard | and the intention is that they go into a fresh install? |
03:10 | larsw | I should state here, for clarity, that I am withdrawing from Koha development; I'm mainly hanging out here in case there's any questions I can answer, and to hang out with people I know |
03:12 | * custard | nods |
03:13 | * wizzyrea_ | mourns the loss of larsw |
03:13 | larsw | anyway, I hope the existing packages work in ubuntu lucid, but if not, please file a bug explaining the problems |
03:13 | custard | is anyone else taking on the .deb idea? |
03:14 | larsw | Robin's succeeding me in the packaging |
03:16 | custard | Good. |
03:16 | I was just in the middle of updating my koha box to lucid, and spotted a note in the irc logs a while back looking for a volunteer to test them, and thought that maybe I could help there. | |
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03:22 | custard | but since I've already got data in the system that I don't really want to loose, I'm probably after a good way of preserving the records and items. |
03:22 | Would just restoring a sql dump work? or would that loose important bits? | |
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03:24 | chris | what version of koha are you currently running? |
03:25 | custard | 3.00.06.010 |
03:25 | Amit | hi chris |
03:26 | good morning #koha | |
03:26 | custard | (and was about to bump it up to 3.2a1 anyway) |
03:27 | chris | alpha2 is out, and the beta is out soon but the packages are running off master, so ahead of even alpha2 |
03:27 | im not sure an upgrade from 3.0.6 will work flawlessly, no fault of the packages though, theres blockers around the upgrade | |
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03:28 | larsw | backups, backups, backups. oh, and backups. |
03:28 | chris | i'd certianly do the install on something i dont care too much about first :) |
03:34 | custard | Ok, I'll see what I've got lying around and test it out first. |
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07:13 | kf | good morning #koha |
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07:19 | Amit | heya kf |
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07:24 | kf | hi paul, hi Amit |
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07:30 | paul | hello kf & al |
07:30 | chris | hi paul |
07:34 | kf | hi chris |
07:35 | chris | heya kf |
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07:52 | chris | paul: nz maori vs england rugby on at the moment |
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08:35 | hdl | hi chris |
08:35 | chris | hi hdl |
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08:38 | chris | hi magnus |
08:38 | magnus | hi chris |
08:38 | chris | hows the ticket hunting going? |
08:38 | magnus | havn't quite got round to it yet |
08:39 | i'm on "holiday" from next week, so i'll do it then | |
08:39 | chris | ahh good idea |
08:39 | magnus | have a few loose ends to tie up before this week is out |
08:41 | catalyst++ # by the way, for volunteering personnel to help with the biblibre patches! | |
08:49 | chris | :) ill pass that on to my boss |
08:52 | kf | catalyst++ :) |
08:57 | nengard: around? | |
09:00 | chris | she'll be asleep |
09:00 | for a couple more hours at least | |
09:02 | kf | ah, you are right |
09:02 | wanted to ask her if she still has problems to get amazon working | |
09:03 | chris | can you remember what bits of amazon weren't working? |
09:05 | kf | reviews |
09:05 | I think covers were ok | |
09:06 | and similar items | |
09:06 | chris | reviews are working at hlt |
09:06 | kf | ok, to be more clear: I had problems with similar items and reviews not working, covers were ok |
09:06 | chris | http://www.library.org.nz/cgi-[…]iblionumber=11580 |
09:06 | kf | yes, they were working for owen too, but not for nengard and me |
09:06 | chris | weird |
09:06 | kf | yes |
09:06 | will test on my dev install later | |
09:08 | chris | w00t!!! |
09:09 | nz maori beat england! | |
09:10 | chilts | heh, awesome :) |
09:11 | chris | not a bad way to celebrate their centenary |
09:14 | magnus | chris: the tag browser looks cool - is that something for 3.4? |
09:14 | chris | thats in 3.2 |
09:15 | magnus | ooh, cool! |
09:15 | chris | if you have librarything for libraries |
09:15 | magnus | ah, ok |
09:15 | i thought it was based on the tags in koha - should have known there wouldn't be that many tags, even for LOTR... | |
09:16 | chris | there is a koha tag browser too |
09:16 | but yeah, you get much more useful info if you utilise millions of ppls tags :) | |
09:16 | magnus | :-) |
09:17 | chris | HLT have librarything for libraries, and also syndetics |
09:17 | magnus | there should be some way to aggregate tags accross Kohas, and other systems too |
09:17 | sweden has one, called "Öppna bibliotek" - "open libraries" | |
09:18 | chris | yep, no reason why we cant do that |
09:18 | i want to do that with recommendations too | |
09:19 | magnus | i'm part of a norwegian "think tank" (the library laboratory) that will be investigating the swedish software this year, and arguing that all norwegian systems should contribute to one open pool, not one pool per ils vendor... |
09:19 | sure recommendations, comments, tags... | |
09:19 | chris | yup |
09:19 | would be easy to do | |
09:20 | just need to make a submit to 'some cool name' | |
09:20 | button | |
09:20 | in the tools | |
09:20 | magnus | would be nice |
09:21 | "Awesome Classic Mad" http://www.library.org.nz/cgi-[…]koha/opac-tags.pl hehe | |
09:22 | hm, when i click on "mad" i get this error: "Error: Language 'nb' does not exist" | |
09:23 | chris | yeah, its trying to be too smart detecting your language from your browser |
09:23 | there are a few little bugs like that in C4/Languages | |
09:23 | its due for an overhaul in 3.4 | |
09:24 | magnus | good |
09:24 | trying to be too smart is... not so smart... :-) | |
09:25 | chris | yeah |
09:29 | custard | Is there anything obvious that would give an "Auth ERROR: Can't get_session() at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 606." when attempting a local connection? |
09:31 | This is on an existing system after an OS upgrade. MySQL is running, and has retained the pre-existing user/password combo. | |
09:36 | chris | its the session bit that is failing |
09:36 | so, im guessing some modules that were cpanned on | |
09:36 | are now missing | |
09:37 | did perl get upgraded? | |
09:48 | custard | yes. 5.10.0 to 5.10.1 |
09:48 | chris | hmm, that shouldnt have been a problem the perl modules should be in the same place still |
09:49 | can you try | |
09:49 | installing CGI::Session::serialize::yaml | |
09:49 | then try koha again | |
09:50 | custard | now, it's interesting that you mention YAML. |
09:52 | previous to this error, I had a longer one that was very much like this one: | |
09:52 | http://old.nabble.com/Koha-Upg[…]2-td26211666.html | |
09:55 | chris | yeah koha uses yaml, and so does cgi session |
09:57 | custard | and adding the package fixed the error. Thanks. |
09:58 | not sure what happened to those two. | |
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10:03 | custard | can I ask why you thought of that module? |
10:04 | chris | because it said cant get_session |
10:04 | so it was something cgi::session related | |
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10:31 | chris | custard: did that fix it? |
10:32 | custard | Yes it did. Thanks. |
10:32 | Sorry, thought I'd said that. | |
10:32 | chris | cool |
10:33 | yeah you did | |
10:33 | i just didnt notice :) | |
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11:19 | damien | Hi, does Koha have an API for plugin development work? |
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11:28 | magnus | damien: i'd say there is no plugin architecture as such, but you can include modules from the C4 directory to get the functionality you need http://git.koha-community.org/[…]tree;f=C4;hb=HEAD |
11:29 | have a look in the misc and misc/cronjobs folder for some (cli) examples http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee;f=misc;hb=HEAD | |
11:39 | chris_n | g'morning |
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11:56 | jwagner | morning chris_n and all |
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12:26 | kf | morning jwagner |
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12:37 | owen | Hi nengard |
12:37 | nengard | howdy! |
12:44 | owen | nengard: How's greader treating you? |
12:44 | nengard | actually haven't looked at it in a few days - trying to catch up from being away before leaving again tomorrow!! |
12:44 | that said - i love that i can now send and receive SMS for free with Google Voice!!! | |
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12:45 | nengard | greader has a few things that bug me - #1 I know i have more than 1000 things to read give me the damn number -- #2 why can't I share a list of everything I subscribe to? -- #3 why can't I mark everything in every folder read? |
12:46 | but bloglines was unstable and that was annoying too | |
12:46 | owen | You should be able to do #3 |
12:46 | There's a "mark all as read" button | |
12:50 | * owen | got tired of Bloglines randomly forgetting what I'd read and what I hadn't |
12:55 | owen | brb, Windows bugging me to restart |
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12:59 | owen | Whoa, Windows updated my nVidia driver and it's like I just arrived in Munchkin Land |
12:59 | The colors are burning my eyes | |
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13:06 | * owen | finds the nVidia setting "Digital Vibrance" and cranks it down from 78% |
13:07 | NickyNick | Anyone have an opinion on using 3.2 Alpha on a production site? |
13:08 | owen | NickyNick: Have you browsed the bug database to see what the major issues are? |
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13:09 | NickyNick | um, that would be wise I suppose! I will, just wondering if anyone thinks, generally, that there is much point staying back on 3.06 until 3.2 is released! |
13:09 | owen | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]D&version=rel_3_2 |
13:09 | nengard | sorry owen - was reading emails and writing patches - there is a mark all read button on each folder - but not for all folders ... not that i saw |
13:09 | and is munchkinland a good thing?? | |
13:09 | owen | Sorry for that URL NickyNick, that's should give you the major, critical, and blocker bugs |
13:10 | nengard: Munchkinland wasn't a good thing in this case | |
13:10 | nengard | hehe |
13:10 | owen | I see nengard, you wanted a button for the nuclear option |
13:10 | nengard | yes!! |
13:10 | i just said have 1000+ things to read :) once in a while i just wipe it all out! | |
13:10 | and start fresh | |
13:12 | owen | nengard: What if you click the "All items" link in the left-hand menu and "mark all as read" from there? |
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13:12 | nengard | didn't try that - will try later |
13:12 | right now upgrading FF :) | |
13:13 | * owen | should be doing that too |
13:13 | should also get back to fighting with Drupal | |
13:14 | nengard | hate drupal! |
13:14 | i know i'm a bad open source educator - but i hate drupal!!! | |
13:14 | owen | Drupal and I have a tense but productive relationship |
13:15 | nengard | convincing one of my associations to switch from drupal to wp cause i hate it so much and don't want to manage it anymore |
13:16 | and just to go back - 188 bugs in that list!!!! NOOOOOO :( | |
13:17 | keey trying to find bugs I can fix to make the list less daunting, but i just don't have all the knowledge i need yet :( | |
13:17 | owen | I'm with you there |
13:17 | I would really like to see more people working from that bug list | |
13:18 | nengard | yeah - although I am seeing a good number that are marked as patch sent, so we just need them pushed/tested/and closed |
13:19 | that will lessen the list some | |
13:20 | owen maybe you have an idea for bug 4068 | |
13:20 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4068 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Accepting a suggestion hides 'pending' tab |
13:21 | * jdavidb | bounces around happily. |
13:21 | nengard | and maybe bug 3969 |
13:21 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3969 major, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, Budget Search Doesn't Work |
13:21 | nengard | what's up jdavidb??? |
13:22 | jdavidb | Just heard from my prosthetics shop; I'm getting a new artificial leg, and insurance is paying 100%. |
13:22 | nengard | WOO HOO!!! |
13:22 | love when insurance actually comes through | |
13:23 | owen | jdavidb: Will it have racing stripes? |
13:23 | nengard | hehe |
13:23 | jdavidb | This is a Very Good Thing--my old one doesn't fit right, and it's coming apart. This will be an upgrade--better shock-absorber built in, and adjustable-heel-height foot. |
13:24 | Got an appointment this afternoon for them to make a mold of me, to build the interface for it. | |
13:25 | owen: I know people who have taken t-shirt decorations and molded them into the plastic of the leg, as a "tattoo". | |
13:27 | nengard | i know i ask this everything, but can someone remind me how to tell someone something later in IRC? |
13:27 | jdavidb | at-later tell <nick> <message>, I think |
13:28 | nengard | @later tell wizzyrea can you add screenshots to this: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3265 |
13:28 | munin | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
13:28 | 04Bug 3265: major, P5, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, LOST status not changed after issued item is checked in | |
13:28 | nengard | worked :) |
13:28 | jdavidb | looks like I remembered it right. |
13:36 | owen | nengard: I'll try to take a look at those bugs later today |
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13:43 | schuster | So I'm looking at bug 3500 |
13:43 | munin | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3500 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, chris, NEW, New Circulation, patron, fines, other granular permissions |
13:43 | schuster | How can we determine if it actually is in 3.2 or if it is going to 3.4? |
13:44 | jwagner | schuster, according to the page Galen & Chris set up, it's still slated for 3.4 -- http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]HarleyIntegration |
13:45 | gmcharlt_ | schuster: jwagner is correct |
13:46 | schuster | OK just reading the "enhancement" and a patch is "ready" so trying to figure out where these things fall and when things can be closed. confused...:) as normal. |
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15:16 | nengard | okay i've gone over the list of major+ bugs 10 times now and I can't find any I have the skills to fix |
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15:36 | * chris_n` | glares at chris_n |
15:36 | chris_n` | and says "Get to work over there." |
15:37 | kf | :) |
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15:42 | brendan | BIG GOAL there |
15:42 | USA in stoppage time | |
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16:15 | kf | bug or feature: patron search only shows patrons from my library? |
16:15 | wizzyrea | bug |
16:15 | kf | I turned independantbranches on and off and got the same result |
16:16 | sure? | |
16:16 | wizzyrea | yea, we've talked about it before |
16:16 | with indybranches it should my library only | |
16:16 | with non-indy it should default to the whole patron db | |
16:16 | kf | ah ok |
16:17 | is there a bug? | |
16:17 | wizzyrea | it seems to be related to the patron search box near the [+] |
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16:17 | wizzyrea | it's picking up the limits when it's not supposed to |
16:17 | hdl | wizzyrea: if it is owed to that. |
16:17 | kf | ah yes |
16:17 | it defaults to my library | |
16:17 | hdl | I sent someone a patch about that. |
16:17 | wizzyrea | ya |
16:18 | It's sort of coming back to me | |
16:18 | (lots of water under the bridge in wizzyrea land) | |
16:18 | (a lot's happened in the last few weeks) | |
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16:18 | hdl | Is there a bug filed about that ? |
16:18 | wizzyrea | I thought there was, let me look |
16:18 | hdl | It is already fixed on our master. |
16:19 | kf | did not find it |
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16:19 | kf | hdl: I still see some problems with suggestions in acq and I was not able to create a pdf file, will test more tomorrow |
16:20 | we started documenting acq and serials in German | |
16:21 | hdl | 9a02771f7dcebccf4121520c343c9c858f020ddb on git.biblibre.com/koha_biblibre.git |
16:23 | nengard | kf are you updating the manual in git with your documentation? or are you writing something different? |
16:23 | if you're writing something different, make sure we get a link to it so we can put it on the koha site | |
16:23 | kf | something different traning materials, no translation |
16:24 | wizzyrea | hdl: I"m not seeing the bug |
16:24 | nengard | kf we have this page for stuff like that: http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ation/other-docs/ |
16:24 | if you want it linked | |
16:24 | wizzyrea | listed... let me look one more place |
16:24 | nengard | language doesn't matter |
16:24 | kf | nengard: http://wiki.bsz-bw.de/doku.php[…]ha-handbuch:start |
16:24 | nengard | cool |
16:24 | what should I title it? | |
16:25 | training materials? | |
16:25 | hdl | nengard°° |
16:25 | nengard++ | |
16:25 | nengard | :) |
16:25 | hdl | sorry |
16:25 | kf | I used something like german koha handbook, its directed to our libraries, no administration |
16:25 | hdl | kf++ |
16:26 | kf | there are some things special because they work with our union catalog, no cataloging happens in koha |
16:27 | nengard | cool - added - http://koha-community.org/docu[…]ation/other-docs/ |
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16:27 | kf | cool .) |
16:27 | :) | |
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16:28 | kf | thx nengard++ |
16:28 | nengard | np |
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16:57 | kf | ok, time to go - bye all |
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18:02 | cait | hi #koha |
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18:11 | rhcl | Hi cait |
18:11 | cait | hi rhcl |
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19:47 | chris_n | @wunder 28334 |
19:47 | munin | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 37.1�C (3:36 PM EDT on June 23, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 5%. Dew Point: -9.0�C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa (Steady). Heat advisory in effect until 7 PM EDT this evening... |
19:47 | * chris_n | considers frying eggs on the sidewalk for supper |
19:47 | owen | @wunder 45701 |
19:47 | munin | owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 30.6�C (3:45 PM EDT on June 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 22.0�C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Falling). |
19:48 | * owen | hates the heat |
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19:55 | zevlag | @wunder 84523 |
19:55 | munin | zevlag: The current temperature in Castle Dale, Utah is 29.8�C (1:27 PM MDT on June 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Pressure: 24.27 in 821.8 hPa (Falling). |
19:55 | zevlag | @wunder 84501 |
19:55 | munin | zevlag: The current temperature in Castle Dale, Utah is 29.8�C (1:27 PM MDT on June 23, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 11%. Dew Point: -4.0�C. Pressure: 24.27 in 821.8 hPa (Falling). |
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20:08 | jdavidb | howdy, #koha. |
20:08 | wizzyrea | heya |
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20:11 | cait | hi jdavidb! |
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20:29 | richard | hi |
20:31 | pianohack | Hey |
20:36 | chris | morning |
20:37 | pianohack | morning |
20:38 | lazyweb question: anyone around here using a macbook? | |
20:38 | looking quite tempting for a college laptop | |
20:38 | cait | morning chris, hi pianohacker |
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20:39 | wizzyrea | I have a macbook |
20:39 | pianohack | hi cait |
20:39 | wizzyrea: What kind? | |
20:39 | gmcharlt_ | pianohack: I do as well, and I'd endorse it for college |
20:39 | wizzyrea | 15in MBP |
20:39 | me too | |
20:39 | (endorse it for college) | |
20:39 | esp for a coder | |
20:40 | pianohack | cool |
20:40 | I'll probably dual-boot it on ubuntu, but glad for the endorsement | |
20:40 | wizzyrea | (virtualbox runs like a champ, and an equivalent PC laptop will probably cost more anyway) |
20:40 | chris | ill be the lone naysayer :) |
20:40 | wizzyrea | yea, chris doesn't like macs |
20:40 | :) | |
20:40 | pianohack | Hehe |
20:41 | wizzyrea | it's ok, nobody's perfect ;) |
20:41 | chris | i dont like apple |
20:41 | wizzyrea | I tease bc I love |
20:41 | pianohack | ah |
20:41 | chris | because they are bad wrong and evil |
20:41 | pianohack | What, the overbearing evil empire tactics put you on edge? |
20:41 | chris | and rms told me i had to point that out to my friends :) |
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20:42 | wizzyrea | hehe |
20:42 | pianohack | Anyway, have to run, but thanks all |
20:43 | chris | cya pianohack |
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21:29 | cait | good night all |
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21:38 | brendan | pianohack why'd you lose the 'er ? |
21:41 | jdavidb | name width limit, brendan. |
21:41 | brendan | oh |
21:42 | * jdavidb | is off to take the early evening catnap. see y'all 'round |
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23:10 | larsw | chris, chilts, robin: would you be able to suggest a good (reliable, but non-expensive) travel agent in Wellington? |
23:11 | robin | larsw: I've used House of Travel in Dunedin in the past, found them to be effective, I imagine there's an office in wgtn. I haven't really shopped around though. |
23:11 | chris | i usually find my flights on the intermanet |
23:11 | and then write down the flight numbers | |
23:12 | and go into the flightcentre | |
23:12 | and say 'i want these ones' | |
23:12 | chilts | yeah, FlightCentre or STA ... but they all have their own annoyances |
23:12 | like a surcharge when paying by credit card | |
23:12 | robin | yeah, it depends what you want. For flying to and from somewhere, I'll do it myself, if I'm booking a more complex trip I'll use the agent. |
23:12 | chris | they never actually seem to know the best deals, so i look them up before hand |
23:12 | and then get them to book it :) | |
23:12 | chilts | I think I'll do what Chris does next time |
23:12 | though sometimes they have deals you can't get on the internet or at a particular time | |
23:13 | chris | yeah, its nice to have an idea of what it should cost before you go in though |
23:13 | larsw | I'd book online except we are having a somewhat complicated trip to New York, via multiple places, and that'll be horrible to optimize online, based on past experience |
23:13 | chris | *nod* |
23:14 | larsw | so... FlightCentre or STA, I'll go find those, thanks :) |
23:14 | chris | we usually go to pittsburgh via a few places, but i usually know what flight i want to get to LA |
23:14 | and tell them that bit, and let them work out the rest | |
23:14 | :) | |
23:14 | house of travel i used when i was at liblime | |
23:14 | they were ok | |
23:15 | but i use flightcentre for my personal stuff | |
23:15 | certainly they seem to be able to get much better deals on accomodation | |
23:15 | than you can do via the web |
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